median socket
Diavolo is so ass and was so ass i remember back then in dandadan event update he was still worse than gojo,yall should reward the players that grinded in the hardest time for av not make the unit mid even after stats buff he is irrelevant to use and just useless
Add a vanguard familiar that make him usable now compared to current power scale
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median socket
let him deal damage based of % hp
Too broken people will be so mad
He can't be the best of the meta or the best of his element cuz tournament people will get mad
And % hpthats too broken for infinite
azure shale
dont wory about his element, rumbling is cosmic
jade coyote
Diavolo is so ass and was so ass i remember back then in dandadan event update h...
buddy he was the best unit until gogeta and he already got buffed
median socket
buddy he was the best unit until gogeta and he already got buffed
Gojo was already better than him
jade coyote
Gojo was already better than him
was he thoo
azure shale
dps wise he was the best
but his aoe is trash
median socket
was he thoo
Yes i remember the tournament backthen was cosmic buff in first week diavolo was released
Gojo was much better there
median socket
dps wise he was the best
but his aoe is trash
Aoe and so expensive
indigo hare
Diavolo is so ass and was so ass i remember back then in dandadan event update h...
i dont want this to happen soon, maybe in a couple of months or even next year..
median socket
i dont want this to happen soon, maybe in a couple of months or even next year..
I just want it to be in mind i wanna use my diavolo
indigo hare
I just want it to be in mind i wanna use my diavolo
they definetly have it in mind, i dont rlly want a buff soon cuz it would mean i have to work for another monarch..i wanna finish my team first 😭
bruh when will they add trading'
azure shale
what if we throw divalo in all the vanguard familiar polls so hes always a option but will never win
median socket
what if we throw divalo in all the vanguard familiar polls so hes always a optio...
Yeah cuz no one have him
dense latch
if they make diavolo op, people will get pissed cause they crying that they aint got it
median socket
if they make diavolo op, people will get pissed cause they crying that they ain...
There is people that grinded for him when av was 5k players
Im one of them
dense latch
There is people that grinded for him when av was 5k players
yes i have it i sufferered
median socket
Why would people want a buff for a unit that they dont have
Thats why he will never win a poll
dense latch
still got my webhooks
i miss the old av
but ill be real
they will give diavolo a familiar
hes outdated and so is gogeta
they will get one
modern iris
i miss the old av
I MISS THE OLD KANYE
tulip merlin
Im still mad that I didnt get diavlo after 5m wisps
coral valve
only after trading is added
zealous brook
they will give diavolo a familiar
I really doubt it (as a monarch diavolo owner)
Literally no one owns him and if he gets an event it would have like 0 engagement
Yes I really want one but I just don’t see it happening 
topaz perch
Im still mad that I didnt get diavlo after 5m wisps
i got him at 5 million
topaz perch
Literally no one owns him and if he gets an event it would have like 0 engagemen...
if they really wanted to they could add it in the same event as gogetas
zealous brook
if they really wanted to they could add it in the same event as gogetas
Hmm not a bad idea
Like in the same shop but you have to choose one to buy
topaz perch
Like in the same shop but you have to choose one to buy
yup
zealous brook
yup
I hope it happens soon though
The longer they take = less prevalent and rare diavolo and gogeta becomes
Which also means they’re less likely to have any changes
topaz perch
half of diavolo's owners dont even boot up the game 💔
zealous brook
Yeah exactly
coral valve
thats not how the devs think
all vanguards will stay meta forever imo
they gonna give gogeta somethign special
diavolo rewind already meta
tulip merlin
half of diavolo's owners dont even boot up the game 💔
Yeah I know it's gonna be super over valued but I'm hoping I can trade my rogita for divalo
topaz perch
Yeah I know it's gonna be super over valued but I'm hoping I can trade my rogita...
lmao thats NOT happening
tulip merlin
lmao thats NOT happening
Yeah
zealous brook
I genuinely doubt 7 gogetas would be worth 1 diavolo
tulip merlin
I just used a 🥭
zealous brook
Let alone a shiny gogeta for a normal diavolo
topaz perch
I just used a 🥭
i didnt have the units until close to the end of the event
had to do alot of it manually
dense latch
this a good idea?
zealous brook
i think i took actual weeks in terms of hours to farm diavolo
I got lucky on the second day
tulip merlin
had to do alot of it manually
Oh wow ur dedicated
zealous brook
this a good idea?
Honestly not bad
But at the end of the day
Hes still gonna be shit if they don’t change his aoe
dense latch
🤣
tulip merlin
this a good idea?
I love it but devs won't add it
zealous brook
His aoe is the thing that keeps him horrible
tulip merlin
His aoe is the thing that keeps him horrible
Yeah they should change to a big cone
dense latch
then this blocks status effects on allies
zealous brook
then this blocks status effects on allies
I doubt they would even WANT to put this much effort on diavolo
Hes a controversial unit to the devs
Or something like that
dense latch
yh they wouldnt icl
zealous brook
Awesome concept tho
dense latch
itll be a waste of time for them
tulip merlin
Hes a controversial unit to the devs
That why I should have him
zealous brook
If a familiar made him cone aoe, reduced his ability cd by 50% and didnt do anything else
He would climb the ranks like crazy
topaz perch
I doubt they would even WANT to put this much effort on diavolo
idk man if you ask me i see him as the "reward" for being there when the game was in the trencehs
dense latch
i really like my passive idea of diavolo creating a midpoint between 3 attacks sucking them in likea black hole
thatll be great imo
tulip merlin
He would climb the ranks like crazy
Idk he has 200k dmg that still pretty bad in the meta rn
zealous brook
idk man if you ask me i see him as the "reward" for being there when the game...
You have no idea how much times Ive said that
zealous brook
Idk he has 200k dmg that still pretty bad in the meta rn
450k*
dense latch
his aoe is just so shit
zealous brook
Goes up to 600k-700k during ability
sour sleet
Diavolo has strong dmg
topaz perch
Goes up to 600k-700k during ability
no?
zealous brook
Hes also immune to everything like bro has so much potential
dense latch
and hes got like 45 range
tulip merlin
idk man if you ask me i see him as the "reward" for being there when the game...
Most people disagree but I think players that played should get him
topaz perch
his highest without buffs is like 500k
sour sleet
Diavolo’s dmg isnt the problem
topaz perch
Most people disagree but I think players that played should get him
nothing to disagree on its literally what he was
zealous brook
Diavolo’s dmg isnt the problem
He has good stats, good passives, a good ability (with horrible cd) and dog shit aoe
tulip merlin
nothing to disagree on its literally what he was
Wdym?
sour sleet
He has good stats, good passives, a good ability (with horrible cd) and dog shit...
yea that cd
needs a change
zealous brook
Not sure why they thought 300s was reasonable
dense latch
do more with the ability if its that cd tbhs
tulip merlin
nothing to disagree on its literally what he was
Most people that played didn't get him?
topaz perch
Most people that played didn't get him?
alot of people quit
tulip merlin
alot of people quit
Yeah I was close to quitting
topaz perch
Not sure why they thought 300s was reasonable
i think because rewind was like rare back then
sour sleet
those 13k people was determined for diavolo
topaz perch
actually nobody had rewind
tulip merlin
I've had such bad luck for vanguards
Only one I haven't gotten without pity was rogita
dense latch
topaz perch
I've had such bad luck for vanguards
spent 5 mil for diavolo 10 mil for gogeta 7 mil for kaguya and pity for escanor
topaz perch
topaz perch
I spent 20k for diavolo
sour sleet
then I quit
dense latch
took me days of tinytask
tulip merlin
nothing to disagree on its literally what he was
I want to make a suggestion about this but I know I'll get clowned
topaz perch
took me days of tinytask
took me WEEKS
sour sleet
I was gonna grind for saiko but
dense latch
took me WEEKS
😭
topaz perch
bro and my shit laptop could BARELY handle 🥭
tulip merlin
took me WEEKS
Took me MONTHS
dense latch
i got 2 of her
tulip merlin
i got 2 of her
Who the bat girl?
dense latch
Who the bat girl?
saiko
topaz perch
yeah i got 2 too ti hink
zealous brook
spent 5 mil for diavolo 10 mil for gogeta 7 mil for kaguya and pity for escanor
It took under 30k for diavolo and gogeta, i pitied kaguya and got escanor from the update code
dense latch
She pretty bad right?
very
zealous brook
Kaguya ruined my phenomenal vanguard luck
dense latch
no dandadanwas good
dense latch
true
tulip merlin
My okarun is my prized possession
dense latch
buff my shiny okarun
tulip merlin
buff my shiny okarun
I had such bad shiny luck in the ddd event
sour sleet
tulip merlin
I remember coming home from school everyday spending my wisps just to not get him
tulip merlin
It's not good but it's not terrible
dense latch
thats why they need this asap
tulip merlin
I'd say just lower cd
tulip merlin
thats why they need this asap
Where did you make this?
dense latch
i made the passives and asked chatgpt to format it
sour sleet
oh nah
tulip merlin
I'm just hoping I'll find a clueless Diavalo owner and give my rogita for it
dense latch
only 3 can be on broken
tulip merlin
I didn’t even realize kaguya moved down on the tier list
Tier list makers are really stupid
pine valve
I didn’t even realize kaguya moved down on the tier list
secrets are taking over✌️
dense latch
they are only having 3 units on broken
tulip merlin
first monarch🙏
I hope my monarch igris become useful
dense latch
I hope my monarch igris become useful
😭
tulip merlin
I was so mad when the trait wouldn't transfer to vsjw
dense latch
yh not suprised
dense latch
lets keep my diavolo rare please
tulip merlin
I mean he would still be rare
dense latch
are my tournament 1 and 2 shiny units gonna be rare🙏
tulip merlin
are my tournament 1 and 2 shiny units gonna be rare🙏
Not if you want the familiar
Is my toji gonna be rare?
dense latch
dk about that onew
tulip merlin
He prob will have some value
tulip merlin
Since he's really good for shield breaking
dense latch
after tournament 1 and 2 i completely stopped tournaments took me hours to get first because i had to rely on killua rng stun
dense latch
paragon bug was lit
tulip merlin
Paragon was trash
tulip merlin
How much did you get for 1 win?
sour sleet
depends on how far you made it
dense latch
genuinely
tulip merlin
I would have done the glitch but I found it after fix
What was the highest paragon level you guys got to with the glitch?
minor garden
So when vanguard saiko familiar. Heh... am i right guys 
tulip merlin
So when vanguard saiko familiar. Heh... am i right guys <:pyHappy:1403923967374...
Man I wish they could make ddd familiars
Units would still be trash tho
minor garden
Man I wish they could make ddd familiars
They could. But they wont
tulip merlin
They could. But they wont
Yeah but they would have to rerun the ddd event
minor garden
You will never be rewarded in this game for playing it when it Was on their lowest
minor garden
Yeah but they would have to rerun the ddd event
I would Pass then icl
tulip merlin
You will never be rewarded in this game for playing it when it Was on their lowe...
I can only dream
Atleast something
minor garden
Unless they would Do it like that:
Lock the shiny form so it cant be obtainable and reward ppl that got the unit for example saiko in general beforehand with an exclusive skin of her
Otherwise
I would never ask for a rerun
Was already cancer to Grind for shiny saiko. If she reruns i May gonna
Eep
minor garden
I can only dream
We can only dream
Surely we will get seasonal skins of old ddd units in the future
🙏
tulip merlin
She would be way easier to get now because it used to be hard to beat that stage atleast for me
minor garden
She would be way easier to get now because it used to be hard to beat that stage...
It Was for everyone. 40 to 45 min for one stage
tulip merlin
My 🥭 couldn't beat it
minor garden
And now imagine grinding for a unit that has 1,5 percent drop chance and then her shiny. Literally worse Grind than going for diavolo 😭
minor garden
Peak
minor garden
Now she is homeless and jiji took her home. Gotta need a homeless saiko skim
tulip merlin
What wisp? Like the currency
minor garden
Ye
tulip merlin
Ohhh
sour sleet
julias was my goat
minor garden
And a "must" have for the dio raid
tulip merlin
julias was my goat
Do you still have him monarch?
sour sleet
yes
zenith shore
See making the unit you advertised as "collector's unit" top 5 all of a sudden is probably just not gonna go well
tulip merlin
See making the unit you advertised as "collector's unit" top 5 all of a sudden i...
Ive seen so many people say he aws a collectors unit but where does it say that?
zenith shore
You could prolly find the message if u scroll up enough in sub announcements
"Are for lucky players to have and brag about"
Theres also an announcement about vanguards being meta and easier to get between this and gogeta drop
zenith shore
Basically was
minor garden
Damn
tulip merlin
can anyone star my suggestion its called battlepass expansion
gritty gorge
"Are for lucky players to have and brag about"
Tbf they changed that philosophy so long ago
With VSJW Gogeta and Kaguya arguably being the best unit in all of their updates
Yes the meta is centered around them lol
zenith shore
Tbf they changed that philosophy so long ago
Yeah, they changed it after diavolo
Thats the issue here
When diavolo was obtainable they still maintained their "vanguards wont be that good" stance
It only changed when gogeta dropped
tulip merlin
It only changed when gogeta dropped
Yeah but now gogeta is buns
zenith shore
Thats just powercreep hes like 7 months old
minor garden
Didnt they say in the latest stage that they wont buff vanguards anymore?
Maybe slightly stat buffs if needed
tulip merlin
Didnt they say in the latest stage that they wont buff vanguards anymore?
Only familiars now
zenith shore
Didnt they say in the latest stage that they wont buff vanguards anymore?
They said vanguard buffs will also be through familiars iirc
minor garden
Or am i just wrong
tulip merlin
Familiars will ruin the game
minor garden
Give them skins
zenith shore
Hopefully theyre not in familiar polls
Nah this is a good way to buff
Ensures the units are good but not top 5 (sukuna doesnt exist shush) due to being unable to run birb
Also it doesnt need you to get as many birbs
tulip merlin
But I liked birb
zenith shore
But I liked birb
Cant be talking about some "familiars will ruin the game" and drop this bruh
Very high roll birbs were the only ones who were gonna have value anyways
tulip merlin
Cant be talking about some "familiars will ruin the game" and drop this bruh
Whats wrong with birb tho
Im saying vanguard familiars will ruin the game
zenith shore
Whats wrong with birb tho
Everything? Birb is actually what ruined familiars
minor garden
I just hope they wont copy paste vanguard familiars. Maybe its just me but sukunas and gojos familar are looking almost the same
Idk if you guys get what i mean
zenith shore
The extremely tedious rng drop with impossible drops that is effectively a 50% dps amp at its max
Sounds about right
minor garden
Im saying vanguard familiars will ruin the game
I May be old school. I would love to See rewoeks instead of familiars but lets see how it goes
zenith shore
I just hope they wont copy paste vanguard familiars. Maybe its just me but suku...
Not really. Gojo's is a bit bland though
tulip merlin
I May be old school. I would love to See rewoeks instead of familiars but lets ...
Devs wont do it bc they lazy
tulip merlin
Just one rework every 6 months
Yeah
minor garden
BY THE LOVE OF GOD
minor garden
Not really. Gojo's is a bit bland though
Agreed
zenith shore
Familiars just are reworks though the only real difference is you cant stack birb on top of allat.
Its 2 new passives + stat amp
minor garden
Familiars just are reworks though the only real difference is you cant stack bir...
Cant wait for a unit that will be able to equip 2 familiars 🙏
tulip merlin
Familiars just are reworks though the only real difference is you cant stack bir...
Yeah ig
zenith shore
Plus theyre fully community decided
gritty gorge
Everything? Birb is actually what ruined familiars
Genuinely
gritty gorge
Also most units with meter feel literally awful without Dark Spirit to the point where it doesn't feel like an add-on but rather a necessity
gritty gorge
How tho
It's literally only ""balanced"" over how rare it is to get a good one, to the point where it's just raw RNG and can make or break any unit
If it had half of the stat potential it does right now it'd still probably be the best familiar in the game... it's severely overtuned
minor garden
Tiktok be like
tulip merlin
Imo he is kinda overrated
Hes a great character but
best unit game is not where he should be
median socket
Not sure why they thought 300s was reasonable
Old balancers,all his passives are so sh anyway
zealous brook
Old balancers,all his passives are so sh anyway
theyre aight
at least hes immune to status effects
and can counterattack
gritty gorge
theyre aight
his passives literally do nothing except dodge chance and counter 
unless u bring a slow unit then he also stacks some damage but
yeah
they're genuinely awful
I just use him for his raw stats that are really good
scenic musk
There is people that grinded for him when av was 5k players
Same
scenic musk
Literally no one owns him and if he gets an event it would have like 0 engagemen...
10k sbr coins trust
pliant nymph
please make my shiny seiko useable she’s so buns
scenic musk
LOL
median socket
please make my shiny seiko useable she’s so buns
Lol she will have good trading value
30min run for 1%
neat sail
they definetly have it in mind, i dont rlly want a buff soon cuz it would mean i...
"cuz it would mean I have to work for another monarch I wanna finish MY TEAM first"
sounds a bit like a personal problem doesnt it??
pliant nymph
Lol she will have good trading value
I also got a shiny suburo where all the rezero glazers at
neat sail
I also got a shiny suburo where all the rezero glazers at
remid
neat sail
ye ik but ppl be glazing re zero so free rerolls
wym free rrs are rrs gonna be tradeable
cause that would be so shit
median socket
wym free rrs are rrs gonna be tradeable
Bundles will be
neat sail
Bundles will be
oh damn
pliant nymph
wym free rrs are rrs gonna be tradeable
nah probably bundles only
if it was normal rerolls it’s gonna ruin the game
minor garden
I also got a shiny suburo where all the rezero glazers at
Subaru got duped thats why no one is glazing him, esdeath, ragna or broly 🙏
pliant nymph
Subaru got duped thats why no one is glazing him, esdeath, ragna or broly 🙏
he’s still gonna be worth a lot
minor garden
he’s still gonna be worth a lot
😭
neat sail
if it was normal rerolls it’s gonna ruin the game
ye anime defenders
indigo hare
"cuz it would mean **I** have to work for another monarch **I** wanna finish **M...
I did state it as a personal problem by saying “I don’t” and speaking subjectively. I also used crying emoji, I was not serious at all. Sounds a bit more like I was making a joke now doesn’t it??
summer quail
please buff the 0.005% unit without pity from the least played update so that the 100 diavolo owners that still play the game can be happy
giving vanguard familiars to limited units without bringing them back would be stupid
and bringing back the rarest unit (or at least one of the) in the game would be stupid too
indigo hare
Perhaps they could give u coins and you can choose which familier you want, all the familiers will be in the same shop. They would only give us enough coins to buy 2 out of 3 familiers for example
sinful forge
Diavolo is so ass and was so ass i remember back then in dandadan event update h...
diavolo was designed to be a cosmetic unit by the old dev team
dunno if the current team gives a shit
honest fern
still got my webhooks
🙏 farming on the last day
honest fern
Im still mad that I didnt get diavlo after 5m wisps
i got him with like 400k
indigo hare
i got him with like 400k
i got him in 120k
median socket
i got him in 120k
I got him with codes :)
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