Make Gilgamesh come back as an permanently obtainable Secret but keep the old ones as Exclusives

[surreal abyss]

rupture on placement

i love you

[floral moth]

Pvp is cursed

[dusk current]

ah yes lemme play a 30 minutes match to loose

[floral moth]

😭

[dusk current]

how fun 💔

[floral moth]

Had a guy ban my glorious buu

💔

[late minnow]

what pvp match takes 30 mins bro

[split bone]

hes op for pvp

[surreal abyss]

how do yall find matches
everyone just quit when they see the units💔

[split bone]

NO TRAITS

[dusk current]

every single match that i played

[floral moth]

try no traits

[dusk current]

HOW FUN !!!

[pale tartan]

You are doing something wrong if your match takes 30 minutes

[honest fractal]

Goblin slayer + weather report duo allows me to not upgrade a single unit and farm until wave 8

I love them

[surreal abyss]

takes forever to find matches

[dusk current]

my enemies gon have a blast banning my vsjw kaguya lfelt and sukuna

[split bone]

we metaaa

[full spade]

most the times I just spawn 3 enemies with full speed if it’s golden castle or shibuya and win without a single farm

[split bone]

why goblin slayer

[surreal abyss]

weather report is so insane dude he does everything

[dusk current]

no dawg its js pvp things

[split bone]

why not anyone else

[surreal abyss]

bubbled
slow
destroy shields

[split bone]

icl all these meta units w no purpose i swear

[glass kindle]

It allows him to do 7 traps instead

Or two traps per enemy

[honest fractal]

Place him at the end of the track

[split bone]

oh

i would prefer sukuna

[honest fractal]

Build up a whole web of traps

[split bone]

but yeah thats good too

[honest fractal]

I’m never using sukuna or gojo outside of tourney I’m sorry

I hate jjk sm

[split bone]

sukuna is so good

[floral moth]

fuck sukuna and gojo

[split bone]

sukuna is better then vsjw

[floral moth]

when yuji vanguard

[full spade]

He legit can solo AOT EX stage

I was actually surprised

[pale tartan]

I have played like 25 games straight in pvp and none of my games have went that long

[honest fractal]

Maybe I’d use sukuna but AV actually botched that unit on release

A familiar is not saving bro

[split bone]

it wasnt even that bad on release

[steep osprey]

does it take long?

[dusk current]

what the fuck

[split bone]

the familiar carries him completely

[full spade]

not rlly

[honest fractal]

AV sukuna is a bottom tier Roblox ATD sukuna

[full spade]

like 6 min

[surreal abyss]

just bad compared to gojo

[split bone]

he wanst even that bad 😭

[surreal abyss]

if there wasn't the comparison he would've be decent

[floral moth]

what is this glaze

[split bone]

he always had moer dps compared to goho

gojo

and he had a nuke

[surreal abyss]

yeah but gojo full dps with time stop

[honest fractal]

When I think of Roblox ATD sukuna, im not thinking of AV sukuna

[split bone]

yeah but like

[surreal abyss]

he's better now so it doesn't matter

[honest fractal]

He just

[split bone]

sukuna wasnt as bad as people thought he was

[split bone]

well yeah

[honest fractal]

Doesn’t live up to actual sukuna I don’t think

[split bone]

he does now

hes insane now

[dusk current]

gojo is js mid

worse escanor 😭

[split bone]

talkin gabt back then

[honest fractal]

I don’t like his model for starters

[full spade]

Can we get back to the topic of the true King please instead of talking about the ‘king’ of curses

[split bone]

how we comparing dps to support

[dusk current]

even now

[full spade]

https://tenor.com/view/gilgamesh-archer-fate-zero-gif-7715221

[dusk current]

both r 1 hit on max upgrade

[honest fractal]

Sorry blud

[surreal abyss]

i mean on release

[split bone]

yeah and gojos a support

[dusk current]

on release i didnt even bother to get gojo

[split bone]

best unit itg

lmfao

[dusk current]

20 fingers was hard to get back in the days

[split bone]

youre buggin

[surreal abyss]

farming infinite was indeed a pain

[split bone]

i afked like 1 night lmao

of inf

[steel yew]

Talking about the main point of the suggestion instead of talking about a random topic? How scandalous

[honest fractal]

We’re getting vanguard lartoria before this bum gilgamesh comes back 😂 ✌️

[floral moth]

oh nah

[split bone]

who IS lartoria bro 💔

[dusk current]

no sukuna mogs gilgamesh

[west root]

preach brother

[full spade]

Wouldn’t complain at all!

[surreal abyss]

lancer artoria

[split bone]

oh

[west root]

ive been summoned with the Lartoria mention

[surreal abyss]

vanguard saber where she can change class

[full spade]

ok get out

[split bone]

her?

[floral moth]

why was miso summoned for this

[split bone]

shes cool

[dusk current]

no i need gilgamesh vanguard

cuz i got monarch on him

💔

[full spade]

Lartoria was mentioned

[steel yew]

What if miso is a servant

[split bone]

gilga being exclusive was so stupid

these devs are stupid

sometimes

[full spade]

hollup…

[honest fractal]

WHY IS DISCORD NLOCKING ALL OF MY FUCKING GIFS

[full spade]

WAIT

HOLLUP

[dusk current]

all the times

[honest fractal]

hi miso

[west root]

[west root]

hi man

slaving away to finish the fate suggestion

[honest fractal]

Same with Ishtar being limited

[full spade]

ILL KEEP THIS IN MIND

[honest fractal]

Guys can we get a space Ishtar secret unit and Gilgamesh vanguard

[dusk current]

mfs decided to make a vanguard skin on ishtar

😭

[steel yew]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-bar-gif-4298875606784040546

[west root]

I don’t even know anymore, may layout got to messy, each group has 20+ layers

[surreal abyss]

let's make entire fate cast in a single vanguard unit🥹

[honest fractal]

Nero my beloved

[dusk current]

allat work and devs wont even read it

[west root]

Don;t care its fun

[split bone]

whats this app

[full spade]

I’ll watch him chief.

[west root]

Procreate

[honest fractal]

When I make concepts I make them for love of the game rather than recognition

[surreal abyss]

till this day still idk why they made her limited

[honest fractal]

I need to get into AV concepting

[west root]

Only suggestion i want added to the game is my damned Lartoria one

[full spade]

Please leave this suggestion if you’re gonna hate on the goat

[honest fractal]

I have… some ideas….

[floral moth]

They prob will

well pretty might read it

[split bone]

okay thanks

[dusk current]

thats the truth

saw some good suggestions being shut down

[full spade]

❌

[dusk current]

cz they are lazy

[split bone]

its free right

[west root]

You can use ibis paint if you don’t wanna spend 10 dollars

There art apps

[honest fractal]

Or just pirate procreate

[rocky tusk]

And they could give us a giselle familier while they at it frfr

[floral moth]

enough

[west root]

It’s 10 dollars bro 😭

[honest fractal]

I love piracy

[floral moth]

giselle familiar that nerfs him

[rocky tusk]

Enought?

[surreal abyss]

new saber skin✌️

[full spade]

What’s with Giselle bro

[honest fractal]

I NEED THE MONEY MORE THAN THEM

[floral moth]

the aba skin

[honest fractal]

🙏 🙏

[west root]

That is true…

[surreal abyss]

aba chan farm unit

[dusk current]

then u prolly never saw good suggestions being shut down cuz devs are lazy

[floral moth]

speedwagon skin

[rocky tusk]

NOO DONT YOU DARE SAY THAT ABOUT MY GOAT GISELLE!

[floral moth]

speedwagon shiny*

[surreal abyss]

speedwagon evo🥹

[honest fractal]

Top 3 intelligent AV server members

[steel yew]

Surprised that av hasnt made yet an av-chan

[floral moth]

Yuji solos

[steel yew]

Or an oc

[floral moth]

brcause

[dusk current]

wym

[rocky tusk]

NUH UH HE'S AFRAUD

[floral moth]

yuji kicks and punches

[full spade]

https://tenor.com/view/take-my-money-heres-my-card-here’s-my-card-card-take-my-card-gif-5650338825958178904

[surreal abyss]

haruka is the mascott of the game

[floral moth]

sjw is

[rocky tusk]

She is sigma frfrfr

[floral moth]

sjw is the av chan

[surreal abyss]

buff av chan

[honest fractal]

Sometimes I wish we never got the fate update when we did

[floral moth]

K back on topic

[honest fractal]

And instead got it around the time of summer update

[floral moth]

They did it wrong

[dusk current]

10/10 suggestion

[floral moth]

but im glad

[dusk current]

they gotta give gilgamesh a double evo

[floral moth]

cause we got ishtar buff

[honest fractal]

I’m like 90% sure the old dev team was still around when the fate update was made

Unfortunately

[floral moth]

They were

[west root]

they quit mid way iirc

[dusk current]

the fate update got overshadowed by aa's return

[west root]

something about deleting assests in the fate upd too

Kojiro got snuffed cause of that

[honest fractal]

Fate update units have some of the highest quality models in the game btw

[floral moth]

Gilg isnt even fit for a exclusive

[honest fractal]

I will die on this hill

[floral moth]

isnt secret 3 passives and exclusive 2

lol

[west root]

you didint see release Gil and ilya...

[paper ember]

But you knew beforehand that they bring units back or?

Never played als

[west root]

chopped hair

[dusk current]

nope

[honest fractal]

Salter unit 🤤

[paper ember]

Damn

[honest fractal]

Saber & lancer too

[dusk current]

meta for 2 updates

[honest fractal]

It’s a shame that archer’s always been ass

[dusk current]

then got powercrept 💔

[honest fractal]

He has a cool ability

[honest fractal]

I don’t care

I will continue to use her

[dusk current]

meh i mean

[west root]

this is why we all are voting for that Salter vfamiliar

[full spade]

Salter still in my top 3 models

[dusk current]

shes only viable with sakura

and 10 buffers

[floral moth]

When was this even a vote

[paper ember]

Like I said they should either never rerun units or bundles cuz it stated "limited" OR they can rerun units if they Do it my way :C ("Lock his shiny form so it cant be obtainable and reward ppl that got gilgamesh in general beforehand with an exclusive skin for gilgamesh")

[honest fractal]

Please god no

[west root]

valk said vfamiliar choice is determined by votes

[floral moth]

make archer or saber the first vanguard familiar for fate tbh

trust

fuck lancer

[west root]

Archer and Salter cuz i like em

[dusk current]

i dont need a gilgamesh skin i need him to be meta

[west root]

[honest fractal]

on ALL OUR SOULS vfamiliars are FUCKING LAME

i don’t like them

[floral moth]

bring back deadeye archer

[west root]

lame but i doubt they would change the system

[paper ember]

That has 0 Things to do with what i said

[floral moth]

It is what it is

[dusk current]

lazy design ngl

[honest fractal]

ehh durr all units need to bring them back into meta is huge damage increase we don’t need to give the vfamiliars passives or functions beyond surface-level shit we thought up in 10 minutes

can you tell i dislike vfamiliars

actual wastes of potential

not up the the AV quality standard imo

[dusk current]

i think u love vfamiliars and u think they should do more of it

[honest fractal]

at all

[honest fractal]

you need to rot

[full spade]

give vfamiliars to units that are at their strongest form

[dusk current]

delete vfamiliars from the game

[full spade]

Or never gonna be touched again

[west root]

i mean that seems to be what they are doing

units that won't get double evos

[heavy cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-a-shape-shape-shapes-circle-triangle-gif-15781005

[floral moth]

Next poll better have archer on it

💔

[full spade]

lets not give salter a vfamiliar and evo her to Lartoria Alter!

[west root]

yes bro yes

[surreal abyss]

why do we only have double evos for vanguards

the concept is cool

[full spade]

And Saber to Lartoria!

[surreal abyss]

wish they used it more

[honest fractal]

drool

yes please!

[dusk current]

salter might be the best candidate for a vfamiliar ngl 💔

[floral moth]

Um…

[full spade]

I love this sticker

[honest fractal]

I love this sticker

[full spade]

No you don’t

I do!

[honest fractal]

Cloning this

[honest fractal]

sticker has been stolen

sorry!

[full spade]

noo

[heavy cloak]

yeah lowkey

ima need that too

✌️

[surreal abyss]

anime vanguards x androids

[full spade]

It’s a server I made for myself

I can send you the inv if you want

[floral moth]

Anime vanguards x iphone soon

[dusk current]

no the impossible crossover where they make av actually playable and not blow up my phone !

[heavy cloak]

oh wait wtf you made it

OH SERVER

i thought you meant the sticket

Lts

[full spade]

😭

[heavy cloak]

[floral moth]

i think we’re high

[honest fractal]

Acting like he’s gonna win if put on the poll

[heavy cloak]

sure im down

[floral moth]

He will cause ima rig it

[honest fractal]

All they gotta do is include a singular JJK unit on the poll and it’s over

Can we murder all jujutsu meatheads

[floral moth]

what jjk unit

jogo

[dusk current]

TODO DOUBLE EVO

[floral moth]

The evo will include yuji

[steel yew]

🙏

[surreal abyss]

do you really play on mobile

[dusk current]

yup

[surreal abyss]

crazy work

[dusk current]

no but i met some ppl who did

and they cant play more than 30 minutes

[floral moth]

Lowkey tho

[dusk current]

😭

[surreal abyss]

playing this game without that fruit feel like you're missing something

[floral moth]

Why don’t yuji and todo have some type of synergy like salter/sakura

[surreal abyss]

😭

[honest fractal]

Because the original dev team sucks

[surreal abyss]

like that astdx feature team up or something

[honest fractal]

I heart when games make itadori just a lesser version of sukuna as if itadori has no potential himself!

[dusk current]

yuji isnt even a real unit

😭

[floral moth]

ik

[dusk current]

js a throwaway for sukuna

[floral moth]

[honest fractal]

Yuji + todo duo unit would have gone hard

[floral moth]

yuji is always the step stone

like the manga

[dusk current]

he did nun

[heavy cloak]

TIS DOTH BE PEAK

[dusk current]

he landed 8 black flashes like its sum impressive 💔

[surreal abyss]

megumi unit u just lose when u place him

[floral moth]

Yea until he fought sukuna

[honest fractal]

Why haven’t we gotten another duo unit since invincible and conquest

[dusk current]

megumi will delete all ur units and summon mahoraga

100 hp and 1 dmg 😭

[honest fractal]

Megumi not being in the JJK update was a huge miss

[surreal abyss]

but mahoraga's target will be your base

[honest fractal]

Same with making mahito a fucking tourney unit

[dusk current]

10/10

[surreal abyss]

fr

[dusk current]

best unit to troll my friends

[floral moth]

yea i was

lowkey mad abt that

[dusk current]

mahito can burn in hell

[floral moth]

ngl

[honest fractal]

And not a banner/stage unit

[dusk current]

fuck that bum

[honest fractal]

Like yeah let’s include jogo as a whole usable unit over mahito when all jogo does in Shibuya is get stomped by sukuna

Ok bro

[surreal abyss]

duo units where you can swap between them would be peak

[honest fractal]

I love jogo but still

[dusk current]

uhhh

cid ?

goku ?

[honest fractal]

Jalter is so awesome

I need to get back on my fgo grind

[surreal abyss]

duo

[floral moth]

so is iskander

[honest fractal]

Haven’t even made it past the second singularity 🥀

[floral moth]

but we’re not getting neither

[dusk current]

yh goku and vegeta

[honest fractal]

Hey! I have a good idea for another duo unit!

[dusk current]

cid and john smith

wtf

[surreal abyss]

oh nevermind totally forgot about this unit

[honest fractal]

Gilgamesh + enkidu vanguard!

[dusk current]

no

no

no

no

[surreal abyss]

nvm they should just it more they are cool

[floral moth]

they already know abt this idea

[dusk current]

make gilgamesh a dual unit

[honest fractal]

sigh bow bro

🤬

[dusk current]

never

till i see gilgamesh is the most broken unit to ever touch av

broken for the entire lifespan of av

[surreal abyss]

ea active ability delete all enemies in map no matter their amount of health

[dusk current]

yh and summon them with 10 times the hp

[surreal abyss]

doesn't als have like x3000 nukes

[honest fractal]

Just make miso beef the owner of AV

[dusk current]

10t nukes

[honest fractal]

Then we’ll have all the fate we want!

[surreal abyss]

wtf😭

av is closing before we reach 1b

luckily

[floral moth]

I fought so much

[dusk current]

plus als got nukes that literally kills the boss no matter what

[full spade]

we all support you bro..

[dusk current]

dawg u will js annoy the poor guy

[surreal abyss]

allat just to be powercrept in the next weekly update

[dusk current]

😭

[surreal abyss]

balanced

[dusk current]

als literally made bosses nukes resistant

😭

[floral moth]

Bro I was one of the ppl to bring up gilg vanguard 😭

I must keep going

(we’re not getting him)

[dusk current]

we are

[honest fractal]

ALS powercreep really is a crazy ass thing

[floral moth]

im glad ppl raised the awareness of it

this suggestion got 112 stars

[dusk current]

old astd had a way bigger problem

than als

[honest fractal]

A unit can drop from #1 to #23 in the span of a singular update

[dusk current]

av had a similiar outcome

when they released that god forsaken bar drain mechanic

[surreal abyss]

don't know how that game survived so long

[honest fractal]

Content slop tends to attract a lot of children

[surreal abyss]

the boss is lowkey a narcissist 🫩

codes locked behind instagram

crazy

[dusk current]

cuz they do popular animes

[surreal abyss]

seem it works

[dusk current]

we get guilty gear

nobody plays guilty gear

[paper ember]

And a dumbass*

[honest fractal]

Yeah the whole key to becoming a huge game on Roblox is caring more for quantity than quality

[dusk current]

i mean he got rich off als

[surreal abyss]

lool

[surreal abyss]

i agree

[honest fractal]

Look at grow a garden, 99 nights, steal a brainrot

None of these games are good

But they’re popular

[surreal abyss]

u deadass right

look gag and steal a brainrot

[surreal abyss]

this

[floral moth]

peak a garden, peak nights, AND peak a brainrot

[surreal abyss]

wrap it up brother

[dusk current]

shut the fuck up

[honest fractal]

They cater to pre-teens

[honest fractal]

Get the fuck off of discord and never return bro

😭

[surreal abyss]

how is arx so popular bro

it's so ass😭

[floral moth]

Wait what’s Z broly shiny

The old devs were on something

😭

[full spade]

Guys

[full spade]

look what I did!

[honest fractal]

Not sure why I got timed out for this 😭

[surreal abyss]

true

[dusk current]

seems like phy cant hide his past

[dusk current]

cuz u said the unborn ppl word

[honest fractal]

Matches in ARX deadass don’t even last 2 minutes

[surreal abyss]

x3 speed🫩

[honest fractal]

Not to mention the game’s colorful

[dusk current]

cuz the boss took over

revived it with his slop

then dipped

[floral moth]

3x speed

[surreal abyss]

you get flashed by like 30 bundles when you open shop

[dusk current]

every game does that wdym

😭

[floral moth]

and you can easily afk it

[surreal abyss]

the boss studio does it mire

[dusk current]

u can afk literally any game

[dusk current]

no its the free admin games

[surreal abyss]

they lowkey encourage players to

they got auto replay

[floral moth]

yea

[dusk current]

they should lowk add that to av and als

the boss pls take over av

[surreal abyss]

we ALL (me, you and everyone here) want this

🥹✌️

[dusk current]

i want my daily 10k rrs

[honest fractal]

Look at anime reborn

[surreal abyss]

arx have doubletraits because rrs are so inflated bro

i have 3k using only codes

😭

[honest fractal]

My little brothers friend (11 years old) STILL swears that reborn was the best ATD on Roblox

[dusk current]

10k rrs overnight is crazy work

[honest fractal]

I can only imagine why

[dusk current]

ngl i wouldnt be mad with 10k rrs overnight

the boss pls take over av

[honest fractal]

It’s over if this happens btw

[dusk current]

theres hope

[honest fractal]

AV quality will never be the same again

[dusk current]

they js need to relase a shitty anime update

[honest fractal]

ARX also

[dusk current]

and its so over

[honest fractal]

ARX deadass has

Ai generated assets

💀

[surreal abyss]

the png ashes

😭

[dusk current]

i mean

who cares anyways 😭

[stone rivet]

say ong

💀

[honest fractal]

Iirc they’ve slowly stopped using AI

[dusk current]

yh the portals

[surreal abyss]

i kinda do

[honest fractal]

But you can go in-game

And see for yourself

[stone rivet]

💀

[surreal abyss]

ai make games look cheap ngl

[stone rivet]

how is roblox allowing creators to make money off art theft

[dusk current]

ai art isnt art thievery wtf

[stone rivet]

well it kinda is

[surreal abyss]

go to roblox home and see most of the games have ai generated images

[dusk current]

i mean ai got so advanced i cant tell the difference between an ai video and a real video

[full spade]

Now it’s time for me to rest

goodnight y’all

[surreal abyss]

true but still we appreciate real artists✌️✌️

[surreal abyss]

goodbye handsome

[dusk current]

especially the red artists

[honest fractal]

Those who are uneducated:

[dusk current]

or green

[stone rivet]

ai is trained on human based input

and most of that human based input

[surreal abyss]

this

[honest fractal]

generative Ai harms the environment so much it’s actually crazy

[dusk current]

so ur anti ai ?

[stone rivet]

is non-consensual

[honest fractal]

Anti-generative AI, sure

[dusk current]

so yh anti ai

[dusk current]

not rlly

[honest fractal]

A lot of people look at the word AI and go bananas when not all AI is bad

It’s just generative AI that’s evil

[surreal abyss]

im fine with other ai stuff
but for art music and stuff

just no

[stone rivet]

what do you mean not really

😭

[honest fractal]

???

[stone rivet]

it's trained off any data that can be found on the internet

it's not asking the original creators for persmission

[dusk current]

i think the team behind the ai gets the data by working with huge companies

[honest fractal]

It just eats human art from anywhere on the internet right up to use as reference for generation

[stone rivet]

not just human art

any art

that's one of th eproblems with ai

at some point

[honest fractal]

True

[stone rivet]

there will be enough ai art on the internet

[honest fractal]

We’re so far down the pipeline that AI inbreeding has already begun

[stone rivet]

that ai will be getting data from other ai

[honest fractal]

And thus is lowering the quality of AI

[stone rivet]

yep

it's a bottleneck for ai

generative ai at least

[dusk current]

most ppl dont even use generative ai for art

the majority js use it if they're lazy to research on their own

[surreal abyss]

you'd be surprised

just scrolling on tiktok i see shitton of ai pfps

yknow the ghibli ones

ugly ahh

[dusk current]

no

idk what ur fyp is 😭

[dusk current]

does ai assisted art still count as ai generated ?

[honest fractal]

Permanent piss yellow filter

😭

[honest fractal]

If generative ai was used, yes

[late minnow]

i love ai

[dusk current]

so lets js say

an artist makes 90% of the art and uses the ai for the 10%

is it still ai generated ?

[surreal abyss]

😭😭

[surreal abyss]

yes

[honest fractal]

Not entirely but I’d definitely lose respect of the artist slightly for using AI

[late minnow]

why do you acre about ai so much

[dusk current]

bruh what is that logic 😭

[honest fractal]

Those who are uneducated

[dusk current]

not uneducated

[late minnow]

good response

[dusk current]

most users js use it to gather info not for art

[late minnow]

instead of giving a reason just call them dumb 😭

[honest fractal]

Harms the environment (particularly the atmosphere & water reservoirs iirc), non-consensually steals real human art to train itself

[dusk current]

mf is quite bad at explaining,he thinks ai is bad cuz it affects art negativly

[late minnow]

everything harms the environment

whats ur point

[honest fractal]

AI’s particularly bad

[stone rivet]

yeah i dont really care much abt the environmental effects

[dusk current]

that last argument isnt even real

[stone rivet]

it's going to happen regardless

[late minnow]

no one cares about the environmental effects

were already fucked

whats there to do

[honest fractal]

So true bro

[dusk current]

what fucking enviromental effects ?

[stone rivet]

bro

[late minnow]

not using ai isnt stopping big corporations from destroying us

[stone rivet]

how are you so

clueless

[late minnow]

ok thats stupid

ur just dumb

[dusk current]

dunno explain it to me maybe ?

[late minnow]

theres obvious environmental effects its just theres no point to caring

[stone rivet]

were you born yesterday?

[dusk current]

yh

can u explain

or do i have to use chatgpt

[honest fractal]

I believe that you should care but then again there’s not too much you can do about it

[stone rivet]

it uses an insane amount of relative electricity consumption

[honest fractal]

The planet is already cooked

[stone rivet]

and that electricity doesn't come from thin air

[late minnow]

it uses a ton of energy

[stone rivet]

that energy comes from fossil fuels

[dusk current]

so does that big sphere in vegas

nobody cries about it tho

[stone rivet]

and likewise a shit ton of other non-renewable energy sources

[late minnow]

because no one cares

that doesnt mean it doesnt exist

dumbass

[dusk current]

yh only from fossil fuels

cuz fuck hydro energy

😭

[surreal abyss]

oh I didn't read well
i still think the art is not entirely yours if ai helped

[stone rivet]

the majority of that energy is non-renewable

[honest fractal]

People should care about the environment but then again all the governments and corporations whom could actually make an impact pretend to care about it but never actually change their ways to attempt to better our planet for more money

Humanity’s greed is sickening

[late minnow]

grass is green

no one gaf bro

[dusk current]

interesting take

[winged night]

why are you guys talking about the environment in a atd discord

[stone rivet]

greed = justice

someone put me in a dr stone edit rn

[surreal abyss]

talking about ai

[late minnow]

not just energy

im sure they waste a ton of water with coolant

for their shit

[dusk current]

so does every big company

nobody crying bout it tho

[late minnow]

yes

you said

u didnt say

"ok who cares"

dumbass

[honest fractal]

Patrick drooling gif

[stone rivet]

sticker

[dusk current]

and u think draining energy and water is an issue

[late minnow]

because it is

but no one cares

[honest fractal]

it is

[late minnow]

😭

[dusk current]

energy not so much

[late minnow]

this guys a genuine moron

[dusk current]

water wtv its polluted anyways

[late minnow]

one thing can be true while another is also true

is it an issue: yes
do people care: no

[stone rivet]

it's an issue with far more overwhelming short-term beneficial impact

than it does negative

[dusk current]

so are nuclear factories

[stone rivet]

what?

nuclear power plants?

[late minnow]

what the fuck r u talking about

[dusk current]

yh idk how to say it in english

fuck

[stone rivet]

if ur talking about nuclear power plants

they exist for long term sustainability

and a source of renewable energy

[dusk current]

did more bad than good

[late minnow]

theyre literally the most environmentally friendly alternatives we have if done right which it wont be

[stone rivet]

i thought it was more good than bad

[late minnow]

u really think this idiot knows anything

[stone rivet]

i'm assuming you saw a chernobyl disaster documentary

[dusk current]

yh i did

[stone rivet]

and assumed nuclear power plants are all hazards to human existence

[dusk current]

mhm

explain how it isnt

[late minnow]

wow its almost like that power plant was mismanaged

[dusk current]

nuclear plants pollute the air so much

and what if it happens again ?

[stone rivet]

bro...

[late minnow]

bro

[honest fractal]

Can’t believe all of this sparked from me mentioning that ARX was so far down the slop pipeline that they used AI generated assets 💔

[late minnow]

genuinely

just stop talking

ur actually dumb

[dusk current]

lemme ask chatgpt rq

[surreal abyss]

butterfly effect

[late minnow]

not a butterfly effect

[late minnow]

not really that far off from the main topic

[honest fractal]

On another note about ai I think that if you consistently use chatGPT or any other ai assistant such as grok, you’re genuinely a lesser human 🪦

[stone rivet]

this is too dumb to be ragebait

[honest fractal]

Third party thinkers pmo

[surreal abyss]

genuinely

[stone rivet]

it's like everything he types

[late minnow]

they have the same vote as me who cares

[dusk current]

oh mb i want to not waste time researching smthing i dont rlly care about

[stone rivet]

is pure nonsense

[late minnow]

it takes a google search

[dusk current]

only thing i dont like about chatgpt is how they made the text

[late minnow]

or common knowledge

about

[dusk current]

google search ai 🤯

[honest fractal]

AI isn’t as intelligent as you think btw

[late minnow]

anything

[honest fractal]

It can be wrong

[honest fractal]

Even worse 😭

[floral moth]

this went from gilg to vanguard familiars to ai

[honest fractal]

I’ve seen google search AI be wrong about simple math equations

[dusk current]

still smart enough to do simple tasks suchs as searching the internet for the piece of info i need

[honest fractal]

ARX ai generated assets was too deep

[stone rivet]

some ai models were unable to even tell you the number of 'r's in 'strawberry'

[late minnow]

full glass of wine chatgpt

[dusk current]

knowledge i def dont have if i need to search it up

😭

[honest fractal]

ishowspeed facepalming gif

[late minnow]

because YOU are the problem

because YOU are the idiot

😭

[stone rivet]

it's been such a long time since i've spoke to someone so confident yet uneducated

[dusk current]

so im supposed to know everything dawg ?

😭

[surreal abyss]

chatgpt users after i ask them to do 2+2 without ai

[floral moth]

10

[dusk current]

lemme ask chatgpt

[honest fractal]

@grok is this true?

[late minnow]

this is the most mundane surface level info about energy production

[surreal abyss]

bro😭

in all seriousness I don't really get the hype for chatgpt

everything you can find on chatgpt you can find like on reddit

[dusk current]

wasnt rlly that interested to begin with

[floral moth]

It’s 2 ways you can use it

[dusk current]

yh but chatgpt sums it up 4 u

[floral moth]

To cheat or to help find your mistakes

[late minnow]

then dont talk about something you know nothing about 😭

[surreal abyss]

i mean searching for infos and stuff

[honest fractal]

I’ve always believed that there’s a huge difference between being uneducated and being genuinely just flat out dumb but

[floral moth]

oh yea

[honest fractal]

Man 😭

[stone rivet]

chatgpt is pretty useful in helping me understand concepts in maths that i find difficult icl

[late minnow]

grass is green

[floral moth]

Yea

[late minnow]

💔

[floral moth]

but most ppl just use it to cheat

[stone rivet]

or answering very specific questions

[floral moth]

which is

[stone rivet]

that i wouldnt otherwise be able to find on google

[floral moth]

scary

[honest fractal]

It’s okay to use chatGPT as an assistant imo but people rely on that shit way too much

It’s okay to use chatGPT as an assistant imo but people rely on that shit way too much

[stone rivet]

i dont know many people who use it to cheat

[honest fractal]

W mobile

Making me send my message twice

[surreal abyss]

i lowkey find answer to everything putting reddit at the end

[dusk current]

chatgpt was always meant to be an assistant

[surreal abyss]

there's always someone with same problems as me lol

[surreal abyss]

this

[honest fractal]

If you cheat with chatGPT or have it write ur whole essays n shit like that or feed it every question on ur homework

[stone rivet]

i used to have a teacher that used to write good morning/good evening/etc in front of every piece of text that he sends on chatgpt

[honest fractal]

You’re cooked

[late minnow]

the strat before chatgpt

[stone rivet]

😭

[surreal abyss]

still using this goated strat

[stone rivet]

some people just too attached to ai

[late minnow]

whats wrong with feeding it every question for hw

[late minnow]

ASSUMING

you know how to do it already

[pale tartan]

Then do it

[honest fractal]

The amount of people who will and definitely have graduated with excessive AI assistance is worrying

[dusk current]

cuz why u doing ur hw if u dont understand anything ?

[stone rivet]

in that case the questoin should be what is wrong with the person and not the ai

why are you asking questions that you arleady knw the answer to

[dusk current]

to save time prolly

[late minnow]

im not taking an extra 30 minutes out of my day to repeat the same mundane thing im already taught but this time by myself

[stone rivet]

there are going to be people who enter the healthcare field that should not be qualified at all if not for the use of excessive ai

if not already

[floral moth]

LOL

[stone rivet]

that's what worries me even more

[floral moth]

PEOPLE DO THAT?

[dusk current]

yh

[floral moth]

we’re doomed

[stone rivet]

people will be the darnest things

[pale tartan]

If you can’t allocate 30 minutes of free time to schoolwork your aren’t surviving college

[dusk current]

its not even bout ai at this point

[honest fractal]

The reason homework includes things that you already know is to hammer that knowledge into your brain

[pale tartan]

It also builds character

[late minnow]

i'd think college work is more than just simple worksheets you can use ai to get good scores on

[late minnow]

bs point

everyone says that

not real

[stone rivet]

i wouldn't say it builds character

but it is definitely a stepping stone in becoming more knowledgeable

[honest fractal]

Using AI to just save some time so you can do whatever the fuck else when you supposedly already know the answers imo makes you a lot more likely to forget that information that you have been learning

[pale tartan]

And when you get caught and kicked out of the school 🥀 wasting thousands of dollars

[late minnow]

what

what dose that have to do with my point

[pale tartan]

I thought u meant your using ai in college

Mb

[late minnow]

anyone who says u can pass college only using ai is bsing

[honest fractal]

You can pass college primarily through ai assistance

Not entirely

[dusk current]

that works for like some months then u will forget it anyways with or without homework

[honest fractal]

That itself is worrying enough to restrict your usage of ai

[late minnow]

"pass" college? hard maybe

med school? 0 chance

[stone rivet]

Med school theres no chance

[floral moth]

You need to be put on trial if you do

[plush cosmos]

you probably can their are alot of stories of people getting degrees by using ai-

[floral moth]

immediately

[pale tartan]

Dedicating time to do your school work prepares you to properly juggle your time later in life

[late minnow]

learn that when ur an adult

more stuff to be doing as a teen

[stone rivet]

It's also just good discipline

[late minnow]

lmao

[honest fractal]

Yeah like wasting your time being unproductive

[stone rivet]

Also why are you doing the subjects you are doing if you are going to use ai to do it anyway

It's better to pick a subject that you genuinely enjoy

[late minnow]

unproductive??

lmao

[stone rivet]

And wouldn't want to use ai for

[honest fractal]

You can dedicate more time to schoolwork and still have plenty of free time to do what you want

I promise you that the time that AI saves you isn’t worth the struggle you’ll have in the long run if you rely on it

[late minnow]

8 hours of sleep, 7 hours of school, an hour to eat, 2-3 hours of extracurriculars, an hour of gym, an hour of being with friends

[dusk current]

i mean u can use ai to save urself and learn from ur mistakes

[stone rivet]

Orrr you could use ai to learn something properly so that you don't have to use it later in life to do the same task again

[late minnow]

yeah because your main grade is gonna be based off assignments and not quizes

[dusk current]

both works

[stone rivet]

Both works, but one is a better option in the long run

[surreal abyss]

we used youtube in the old days

[pale tartan]

Why would you not want to learn that as a teenager rather than an adult when more things are expected of you and their is less leniency

[dusk current]

in my case i learn better from my mistakes

[honest fractal]

Once again, homework exists to hammer information you should already know (since you’ve been taught said info in school, if you’ve been paying attention), if you just let AI do all of the work that information is not going to be hammered into your head, likely not committed to memory

Which will not work out later on

Especially if you’re studying to go into a specific field

[stone rivet]

It's not just about the hammering in of knowledge

[late minnow]

because using ai on simple assignments isn't going to make it so you're completely undisciplined lmao

[late minnow]

or maybe just learn it when ur in school

[stone rivet]

Because ai can be tailored to be more useful to people

Imo

Using AI productively and efficiently is better than using it to complete ur assignments for you

[late minnow]

studying for tests and just doing stuff in school is the only thing that matters

[stone rivet]

I used to use ai to do my as level chemistry homework

I'm now in a level chemistry struggling to understand some of the basic concepts

[dusk current]

yh but most ppl js use it for assignments or deadline tasks

[stone rivet]

Well

Used to struggle

[pale tartan]

Not learning something properly and becoming dependent on ai would mess with you later in life

[stone rivet]

Id say my use of ai in education has been more mature now

[late minnow]

when has using ai for your homework made you become dependent on it

[honest fractal]

Have a hard time believing that your memory is comparable to that of a super-computer and you’ll remember every piece of knowledge you learn in school and study about without doing any actual extra work

[late minnow]

using ai for almost everything is different hw i dont see the issue

[honest fractal]

How do you think that most people whom depend on ai got that far down the pipeline

[late minnow]

im not saying it is ive struggled on stuff before im just saying that homework's never helped me remember anything

[dusk current]

i use ai to get the info i need and in some cases i ask the ai to explain how to do a problem or sum

[pale tartan]

Using it on “simple” assignments you could do your self really sounds like dependency

[late minnow]

if i can do something by ymself but i choose to have someone else do it because i dont feel like doing it is different from needing them to do it

[stone rivet]

I suppose it does also depend on the type of homework

But saying it doesn't help you with remembering anything

That's not something I can relate to

[boreal hazel]

.

[dusk current]

homework is js a short time solve

[stone rivet]

Homework should also be used to pique interest in the subjects you're doing

[late minnow]

idk i feel like the type of homework u can use ai on wont really help you anyways

[dusk current]

i think the subject iself should pique interest

ngl

[stone rivet]

That's subjective

What kind of take is that

[dusk current]

so what i like the subject and i dont like the homework ?

😭

[pale tartan]

Instead doing it the right way and having a sense of accomplishment you go for an easy cop out on something you know you can do

[stone rivet]

It's like asking an engineer why medicine doesn't interest him

[late minnow]

when has that ever been the case

[late minnow]

what you determine to be the right way

what you think is the right way is subjective

[dusk current]

wtf r u saying dawg

[stone rivet]

For me, my studies in biology has lead me to do some of my own research in physiology

[late minnow]

i only see that being the case for electives

[stone rivet]

I'm not saying I can speak for all people

[pale tartan]

The intended way of the teacher

[late minnow]

ok

also who has a sense of accomplishment from doing homework

[stone rivet]

Me...

[dusk current]

ong its js relieve when u finish it

[stone rivet]

You're treating homework as some sort of divine punishment

[late minnow]

no one said that here

[stone rivet]

It's literally just tasks that benefits you

[pale tartan]

People who care abt how their doing in school

[late minnow]

lmao ok

[honest fractal]

the entitlement radiating from this set of messages followed by the “ok” when given a valid response is kind of crazy

[late minnow]

ok

[dusk current]

LOL

[honest fractal]

I’m giggling

[dusk current]

not rlly entitlement

he js wanted to end the convo

[pale tartan]

and prioritize their own personal growth more than hanging out with people you wont see in years after you leave highschool

[dusk current]

😭

[late minnow]

he

[late minnow]

ur gonna be miserable

[dusk current]

so like

[late minnow]

and thats also

just

like

[dusk current]

u got crackhead friends ?

[late minnow]

not how most people live

[dusk current]

😭

[honest fractal]

because being successful means you’ll be miserable

[pale tartan]

You could do both🥀🥀

[dusk current]

friends help alot with personal growth

except if u got crackhead friends

[honest fractal]

in some cases sure

[dusk current]

most cases

[late minnow]

yeah because dedicating your life to working will totally lead to you being successful

[pale tartan]

Yeah but you shouldn’t dedicate your life to hanging out with them

[late minnow]

and who said that

i literally said

an HOUR

[stone rivet]

U can make friends in highschool while focusing on ur own education

[dusk current]

if u hang out with someone ur more incline to be like him

[late minnow]

of being with people

[stone rivet]

It's not an either or

[dusk current]

if u got a good friend with a goal

it only benefits u

[late minnow]

with ur logic if an hour of homework isnt alot than an hour of being with friends isnt either

[honest fractal]

no one said that

[pale tartan]

Bro what

What is your point

[stone rivet]

What point is even being made here

[surreal abyss]

is this even av server anymore 🥹

[stone rivet]

Homework.io

Went from ai to nuclear power plants to homework

[frail marsh]

sup guys im back

[dusk current]

the most succesful ppl are the most creative ones

not mfs who do hw all day

[honest fractal]

I just don’t see why you’d use ai for any schoolwork really at all if you care about being genuinely successful

[pale tartan]

Never said you should be a social reject and only do schoolwork like a zombie🥀

[dusk current]

depends on the use of ai

[honest fractal]

There are several studies proving that excessive reliance on ai actually rots away the creative drive in your brain btw

[frail marsh]

my language's essays

im lazy

[raven hinge]

no it helps me photoshop

i love chatgpt

[honest fractal]

Cutting corners like that can lead nowhere but Rome imo

[frail marsh]

and technology PowerPoints (i find the things myself but ai does the design)

[raven hinge]

booo

[plush cosmos]

everyone does this

[honest fractal]

pack it up

[frail marsh]

nah i use chatgpt but im still creative broski

[stone rivet]

Have any of these been peer reviewed

[frail marsh]

i mean if i gotta be honest

[dusk current]

so if i use ai consistently to learn infos i need will make me less creative ?

😭

[late minnow]

honestly idek

[frail marsh]

i dont like use ai for creative stuff

[stone rivet]

I don't think ai has been around long enough for long term studies to have conclusive results already

[frail marsh]

just for calcs/essays which dont help me at all

or other things

like daily information

[dusk current]

true

[west root]

I just use ai to glaze myself so i feel better

[raven hinge]

daily information

[frail marsh]

never used gpt for creative things

[raven hinge]

could you clarify what you meant by that

[frail marsh]

don't know how to explain it basically like to confirm if some things i see are true or maybe like just simple routine questions

[late minnow]

i never said u prioritize being with people over urself

[raven hinge]

dont do that

routine questions are fine

[late minnow]

is an hour too much time to be with someone for lol

[frail marsh]

btw this is so off topic lol

[raven hinge]

but dont do that other thing

[frail marsh]

why wdym

[honest fractal]

@stone rivet are your dms open

can’t send the study here

[pale tartan]

Im saying thats the type of people who feel accomplished doing homework the legit way???

[dusk current]

whats wrong with asking ai if its true ?

wtf

[stone rivet]

Yes

[frail marsh]

yo btw just to clarify i do maths myself cuz im a goat

[late minnow]

oh yeah

well

[stone rivet]

I'll have a look in the morning

[late minnow]

i dont see how that matters at all

like

[pale tartan]

Your the one who literally asked me

[raven hinge]

arent there risks when you use ai for fact checking