#Dear Devs… Regarding About Trading…

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timid topaz
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And uh the pity?

pearl locust
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Just don't roll on them

timid topaz
pearl locust
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I have 2 extra kaguyas and one extra gogeta

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I don't have a single trait on them

lavish fox
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Is this a good or bad idea

tiny sparrow
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sounds really easy to abuse, just keep trading to get monarch on your meta units

lavish fox
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I thought this is fair

timid topaz
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My question is the pity
With this system will it just reset or what?

native grail
pearl locust
still pulsar
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I feel like people would trade shitty exclusives with monarch for better units

south bone
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this is horrible

pearl locust
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See

lavish fox
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Okay I’ll make it so trait only transfers to same rarity

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SAME RARITY OAKY?

pearl locust
high drum
zealous sonnet
native grail
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if you ever pull a monarch rare
trade your vanguard to an alt
trade the rare back for the epic

still pulsar
high drum
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traits should be completely not included in trading at all

still pulsar
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Im sorry little jodio, but this is ad trading moment

timid topaz
pearl locust
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Monarch haruka rin for Monarch dante, such a good trade

zealous sonnet
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the unit should reset levels and trait after trading

lavish fox
zealous sonnet
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that is common sense

timid topaz
pearl locust
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I have dupes of all vanguards except for diavolo

lavish fox
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Dang i didnt think this through 😭

scarlet relic
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Instead of this reset traits just like would happen when stat transfering SmileThroughThePain

still pulsar
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I feel like stats should stay

scarlet relic
still pulsar
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At least it brings a little of "value" for those meh exclusives

silver oasis
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No

still pulsar
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My godly okarun for your shiny diavolo w

silver oasis
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when trading make it where traits get Removed

scarlet relic
lavish fox
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okay

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i rewrote it

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how about it

copper galleon
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dude just delete this suggestion already, bro is already on token😭 🙏

lavish fox
copper galleon
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is bro gonna have shiny token next

copper galleon
lavish fox
copper galleon
silver oasis
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No

lavish fox
silver oasis
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This is jsut trait transfer

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but with more steps

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😭

lavish fox
# silver oasis No

Whats wrong with the monarch token? It cant be exploited and only be used on the same unit?

lavish fox
lime sundial
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lowkey just dont add trading

lavish fox
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Okay after realizing my original plan could be exploited into trait transfering, here is a second solution.

When trading a unit away, you obtain a token of that exact trait (Only Mythic Traits) for that exact unit.

When you trade away Monarch Escanor, you obtain a Monarch Token for Escanor only. You can use it again on Escanor if you get him again.

Shinies do not apply.

Tokens cannot be traded nor deleted.

silver oasis
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No

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i did not

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type shit

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but

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yeah dont add trading

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shits bummy

lavish fox
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trading is gonna be added regardless

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lowkey inevitable

copper galleon
lavish fox
lime sundial
copper galleon
lavish fox
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and monarchs are important to grind said units

silver oasis
lavish fox
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AA trading was sorta balanced

lime sundial
lavish fox
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wait genuniely whats wrong with this v2 idea

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Okay after realizing my original plan could be exploited into trait transfering, here is a second solution.

When trading a unit away, you obtain a token of that exact trait (Only Mythic Traits) for that exact unit.

When you trade away Monarch Escanor, you obtain a Monarch Token for Escanor only. You can use it again on Escanor if you get him again.

Shinies do not apply.

Tokens cannot be traded nor deleted.

still pulsar
zealous sonnet
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the person who have multiple copies of the unit:

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is the same thing

lavish fox
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also that doesnt make sense you could trade the non trait unit off

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instead of the one with monarch

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this suggestion is for people who only have one copy of said unit and has monarch on it

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and wants to trade it off

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if they want Escanor again they could trade it back and use the monarch token

zealous sonnet
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the other side gets the escanor with monarch and you get a token to get monarch on another escanor?

lavish fox
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THEY GET A TRAITLESS ESCANOR

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BRO HOW SPECIFIC I GOTTA GET

zealous sonnet
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bro your suggestion doesn't mention anything about that

lavish fox
zealous sonnet
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you do

lavish fox
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Okay after realizing my original plan could be exploited into trait transfering, here is a second solution.

When trading a unit away, you obtain a token of that exact trait (Only Mythic Traits) for that exact unit.

The Guy You Traded Escanor To GETS A TRAITLESS ESCANOR AND NO TOKENS

When you trade away Monarch Escanor, you obtain a Monarch Token for Escanor only. You can use it again on Escanor if you get him again.

Shinies do not apply.

Tokens cannot be traded nor deleted.

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what about now

zealous sonnet
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anyone else would have the exact question

lavish fox
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fair?

zealous sonnet
zealous sonnet
lavish fox
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welp time to wait for people to read it

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@south bone @high drum what about now ;-; surely there isnt anything wrong with this idea

south bone
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its better but idk if this is needed

lavish fox
# south bone its better but idk if this is needed
  1. The orignal idea I didnt account for the trait could be exploited.
  2. I have a monarch Escanor and I plan on trading him off for a shiny diavolo (Dont criticize I will add duh)
    But eventually I will trade for Escanor again with other stuff and I want to have my monarch back on him
high drum
lavish fox
lavish fox
high drum
lavish fox
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I only have one escanor sadly

high drum
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so essentially you want this added for your own personal benefit

lavish fox
high drum
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because overall the idea of traits being included in trading is just a terrible idea no matter how you put it

lavish fox
still pulsar
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If the token is only for the unit traded, then it seems unnecessary idk (just dont trade monarch)

high drum
lavish fox
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and that trade sometime requires you to trade off the unit that has a monarch on it

lavish fox
high drum
teal trout
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Okay

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Why are high levels so stupid

tardy rock
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so jus shiny trait transfer but with the trading addon

teal trout
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Did the original poster even though of this before publishing it?

lavish fox
teal trout
lavish fox
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i even bolded it...

teal trout
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the person who have multiple copies of the unit:

tardy rock
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you trade monarch escanor

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player a trades monarch escanor to player b

lavish fox
tardy rock
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player b now can use monarch token on shiny ecanor

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this just feels like extra work for the devs

lavish fox
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thats what I meant

high drum
teal trout
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Every trading games delete traits or something similar to it, why shoudl av keep it

teal trout
lavish fox
teal trout
teal trout
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Are you using your brain

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Holy fuck

tardy rock
teal trout
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You could get multiple copies

lavish fox
high drum
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traits should just be completely voided in anything to do with trading, the only thing that should remain is stats and familiars will probably be individually tradable anyways

teal trout
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Think of the profit

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Either take it or leave it

lavish fox
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yeah but think about the rrs you spent

tardy rock
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your loss 2

lavish fox
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also srsly whats wrong with the idea since it cant be exploited?

teal trout
high drum
teal trout
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Worth the sacrifice

high drum
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i just think it's pointless

tardy rock
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then trade for rrs simple

lavish fox
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I mean

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Token can only be used once, cant be used on shiny, only on the unit u had monarch on,

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i dont see any issues with that

teal trout
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Dude

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That won’t work

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Because of the UId

lavish fox
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wait what?

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UID?

teal trout
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Each unit had a different unique serial number

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Has*

high drum
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it's just pointless 😭 if you want to prepare for trading then start farming for a 2nd escanor or something

teal trout
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So how would the game register

tardy rock
lavish fox
lavish fox
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and still can use the unit

high drum
tardy rock
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thats just pointless

high drum
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it's just dumb

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trading should stay simple

still pulsar
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Just get another escanor and get another monarch greenguy

teal trout
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Always the dumbass trying to make things a lot more complicated

lavish fox
high drum
teal trout
zealous sonnet
lavish fox
teal trout
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Repeat

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And there’s a chance you’ll find bugs within it

lavish fox
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could lead to dupes

lavish fox
teal trout
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Units that has crazy demand

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Homuru/dio oh

lavish fox
# teal trout Units that has crazy demand

right, lets say you trade off monarch diavolo to a monarch escanor. You get a traitless escanor. You got bored and traded escanor off to diavolo again. You have a monarch diavolo now

zealous sonnet
lavish fox
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cause you use to own a monarch diavolo

teal trout
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Bm type shit

lavish fox
lavish fox
zealous sonnet
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the risk of trading is gone with it idea

lavish fox
teal trout
zealous sonnet
lavish fox
teal trout
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It’s your fault for not being prepared

zealous sonnet
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if the trade is so good to the point you had to sacrifice a monarch unit then you would be able to find easily what you offer but with adds

lavish fox
lavish fox
teal trout
lavish fox
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cause honestly i only see like one side of this

zealous sonnet
still pulsar
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Think of the orcas

lavish fox
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I would think people would like this if they didnt grind an extra copy to use for trading

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?

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uh mushy

zealous sonnet
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sorry mushy.exe stopped working

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we will fix it

lavish fox
zealous sonnet
lavish fox
# zealous sonnet sorry mushy.exe stopped working

I don’t think he could find a valid argument against it ;-;
Hypothetical situation you trade Unit A with monarch for Unit B. You now have a traitless Unit B and a monarch token for unit A only and cannot be used on its shiny version.

If you get bored of unit B just trade it off for unit A again.

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Saves you the trouble

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And you can play the game

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I used Escanor and Diavolo as an example cause Diavolo is trash and Escanor is good

crimson niche
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Was good till I read no shinies like what

lavish fox
crimson niche
lavish fox
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Er stage talk

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So far the only reasons I heard was it’s a waste of time as a criticism

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Which I don’t think so cause it saves you the trouble of spending RRs on the unit again

tardy rock
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thats the entire point

lavish fox
# tardy rock exactly

You originally had monarch on the unit, and you traded the unit away, so if you trade it back again you get monarch on it cause you had a token for it

tardy rock
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why remove the trait if we get token, just let it trade with the unit

lavish fox
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Does it rlly exploit anything?

zealous sonnet
# lavish fox I don’t think he could find a valid argument against it ;-; Hypothetical situati...

that would be the case if the trade is a fair one but your example is about if the trade is a big W for you
lets say you trade your worthless Unit A for valuable Unit B
you will get the monarch token for unit A and the Unit B
considering Unit b value is 2x/3x times of Unit A
you would be able to get your unit A again and with a add
which ends with you getting your unit back and with extra adds that you will able to trade for a better value

lavish fox
zealous sonnet
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with that you will end with what you started but with better tradeable units

tardy rock
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like

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really

zealous sonnet
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there wasn't any risk of trading

lavish fox
zealous sonnet
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that is the issue

lavish fox
zealous sonnet
lavish fox
tardy rock
lavish fox
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Cause I thought people hated that idea

tardy rock
lone drift
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let me think about it, im a lil slow today

lavish fox
lone drift
zealous sonnet
lone drift
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ooh

lavish fox
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Where were you mushy I was waiting for your feedback

lone drift
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bump

zealous sonnet
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mushy.exe is working again
sorry for making you wait

daring ivy
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are u dumb?

lavish fox
lone drift
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lets hear it out!

lavish fox
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I’m tryna make it as balance as possible without the chance of traits being exploited

teal trout
# lavish fox right, lets say you trade off monarch diavolo to a monarch escanor. You get a tr...

using diavolo is a bad example because realistically, there's only two ways this trade could go.
option 1, the diavolo user is going to take this massive L trade because he has a pending trade to the point it's a huge w if he finds an escanor right away without needing to spam in the channels for as long as he needs to fine while convincing the guy he has the pending trade with to hold onto the offer while he looks for a escanor right away and he can only do that if he sacrifices a diavolo because thats the quicker way

option 2, the diavolo user has a duped diavolo and is giving it for free becasue he knows his account is on the ban list for the upcoming ban wave)

tardy rock
lavish fox
daring ivy
# lavish fox What’s wrong with the idea just say it

you said trading a monarch escanor will give a monarch token which u can re monarch a new escanor for free with that token....
how u gonna talk abt trading like this not gonna harm the fuck out of vangaurds yk how many ppl can M and get vangaurds for free now sicne there's pity?

teal trout
daring ivy
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re monarch a vangaurd

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nah u cooking

teal trout
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even bf had one and it used to be the most popular one

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aa had one

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so did ad and als

teal trout
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av will eventually have a dupe

lavish fox
umbral tapir
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thats so boring tho

teal trout
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like be for real

daring ivy
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"fair trading"

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like huh

teal trout
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escanor only takes 4d to get

umbral tapir
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trading is fun bc of risks

teal trout
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low level players can get him too

umbral tapir
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safe trading is not the way

lavish fox
daring ivy
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U LITERALLY GETTING BACK A MONARCH BY GETTING VALUE U LOSING NO VALUE

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HOW TF IS THAT FAIR

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THATS A BUFF

lavish fox
lavish fox
umbral tapir
daring ivy
lone drift
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ts lowk good

daring ivy
lavish fox
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What’s wrong with that?

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In the end you still have an Escanor.

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So….

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Well?

lone drift
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so basically you still have one monarch?

lavish fox
daring ivy
lavish fox
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I genuinely don’t know how am I harming vanguard value…

tardy rock
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thats the issue

lavish fox
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I mean if you for some reason chose to trade the monarch Escanor it’s still the same thing

tardy rock
lavish fox
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You still have a monarch Escanor if you have an extra copy

tardy rock
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thats the point of trading

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rare stuff is rare

lavish fox
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In the end you still have the trait you grinded for

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Also how am I harming the value of vanguard. I genuinely don’t know…

misty walrus
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what is this

daring ivy
misty walrus
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you arent trading traits

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only the units

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what is this suggestion

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im confused

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confuddled

lavish fox
lone drift
tardy rock
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this just makes trading useless

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why would you trade for rrs

lavish fox
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The token is one time use

misty walrus
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why are u traading ur monarchs away...

lone drift
lavish fox
lavish fox
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For that unit only

daring ivy
misty walrus
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then why would u lose trait on stat transfer

lavish fox
zealous sonnet
tardy rock
lavish fox
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WHY DO I NEED TO SPECIFY THE TOKEN IS ONE USE????

zealous sonnet
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if is a good trade there won't be a issue finding it

lavish fox
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BRO

zealous sonnet
lavish fox
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I HAD TO SPECIFY THE TOKEN IS ONE USE????

misty walrus
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if u roll monarch on a character

lavish fox
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ARE WE KIDDING

misty walrus
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dont trade it away

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shrimple as that

lone drift
compact pasture
tardy rock
lavish fox
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ITS ONE USE

lavish fox
compact pasture
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I think this bad idea becuz idk if token one time use so op monarch so trade so bad idea

tardy rock
compact pasture
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Is it one time use tho

misty walrus
daring ivy
tardy rock
zealous sonnet
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make the token one single global use

daring ivy
tardy rock
compact pasture
lone drift
misty walrus
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but anyways

tardy rock
lavish fox
tardy rock
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but he keeps monarch!

misty walrus
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you ARENT trading

teal trout
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the 3 diavlo user

misty walrus
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loooook.

teal trout
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there are only two reasons why people will take massive L trades

misty walrus
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there will be NO monarch tokens

teal trout
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  1. they know they'll make profit from it
lavish fox
misty walrus
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if you roll monarch on a unit

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you are KEEPING that

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SHRIMPLE as that.

daring ivy
zealous sonnet
daring ivy
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then its fine

tardy rock
lavish fox
misty walrus
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you are NOT trading ur monarchs away.

daring ivy
misty walrus
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shrimple as that

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anyways

lavish fox
misty walrus
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#1407964656663920701

umbral tapir
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or gogeta

daring ivy
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u good

lavish fox
misty walrus
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5

lavish fox
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i want to use ur stuff as an example

misty walrus
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why

lavish fox
daring ivy
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u might wana remake the suggestion cuz u already started off

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bad

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by not saying that one thing

misty walrus
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goated monarch lineup

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🤑

lavish fox
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OKAY?

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I KNOW ITS NOT TRADABLE

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JUST PRETEND ITS TRADABLE

misty walrus
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nuh uh im leaving the thread

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i dont use my brain

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sory

lavish fox
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oh okay thats fair

zealous sonnet
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deadeye hercules destroy monarch hercules

daring ivy
lone drift
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17 reacts

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man

lavish fox
daring ivy
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yea he/she gotta remake the suggestion

lavish fox
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i didnt realize my original idea could lead to exploting traits

lavish fox
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do yall think I should remake it

daring ivy
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hmm

lone drift
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yeh

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17 is wack

daring ivy
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yea one last time

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then dont make no more for a while

lone drift
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people see something like 30'x

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thye'll just click x also without reading

daring ivy
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yep