The Sukuna Situation

[thorn sage]

hollow knight

[dark abyss]

oo

i heard pyseph is making him

[thorn sage]

season 3 of jjk dropping and we cant get no more content from it

LOL

crazy

[dark abyss]

thats sad

copyright issues

[thorn sage]

Insane timing

[median condor]

whys that matter

[median condor]

am i wrong

??

[uncut tundra]

Well

You got your wish I guess

[modest path]

is ts real?

if yes i might change my opinions about him

[jaunty ridge]

batus cool

he's probably one of the reasons we barely have any. Bugs now

[modest path]

him sending cat gifs and bs on #「📣」sub-announcements kinda pmo but i dont really care if he really added josuke

[dark abyss]

Yup it's real

he's a chill dev

And a bug warrior at that

[median condor]

cant be that annoying bro

[modest path]

it is

trust me

i always have expectations when clickin that channel

and find myself disappointed

when i see him posting some random shit

but its all good

since josuke will be in the game

[stone scaffold]

pyseph already said he was trolling/lying

🦣🐪

[dark abyss]

wallahi

[jaunty ridge]

pyseph js covering his tracks

[stone scaffold]

ok

[cursive wing]

Make him full aoe

Move world cutting slash to max upg and make it full aoe

[modest path]

same bs happened on sukuna

they said it was fake

[stone scaffold]

alr

[flint kestrel]

Pyspeh is listening. They are in our walls. Listening, stacking us

Waiting until they can steal our ideas

LETS OVERTROW PYSEPTH AND THE MODS!

FOR STEALING AND NOT GIVING CREDIT!

[thorn sage]

make this reality

[tight valley]

Holy foreshadowing

[thorn sage]

im goated

[whole totem]

did yhwach tell this man the future or what

[median condor]

bro

my luck for double evos

is so good

i got a vegeta shiny and i had monarch sjw

[whole totem]

i got shiny mid woo but i took the free 5 rrs out

[unborn raft]

MY MONARCH VEGETA IS USABLE

YAEAHHHHHHH

[tight valley]

First requirement of the quest: sacrifice vogita super (awakened)

[north acorn]

he doesnt deserve anything anyways

i want him gone from my inventory

[unborn raft]

genuinely crying if that happens

[dull wedge]

yall arent seeing the vision

[zinc star]

That’s not who they would evolve into

[dull wedge]

but they could...

[zinc star]

There’s a way better dokkan unit they could evolve into

[dull wedge]

you talking abou

[zinc star]

Yes

[dull wedge]

im only going for ther first one

because the upd

seems to be based on the broly movie

[zinc star]

Roku angel isn’t getting the evo

It’s the vegeta mythic

[thorn sage]

Crazy

[dull wedge]

not confirmed

[zinc star]

Be fr

[dull wedge]

he's getting an evo but it doesnt have to be a vanguard one...

it would make 0 sense for them to just make the exact same type of unit again

just evoed from vegeta

[hearty flax]

i think it is

[hearty flax]

where is this doc

[dull wedge]

now it can be both...

so its confusing...

[hearty flax]

where is this doc

[dull wedge]

dont remember

[hearty flax]

where you getting the images from

[dull wedge]

i opened it i just dont remember which channel

[onyx lynx]

where is the transcript for the stages posted?

[bright pine]

ok hear me out

if you dont have doble evo vegeta, you cant do the dungeon

and the dungeon is the one that drops broky

broly

and when you get him you get a quest to make him a vanguard unit

[dull wedge]

ok hear me out

scrap the whole upd and make fate part 3

[main epoch]

ah i can't send links

[thorn sage]

when will we get rid of fate

and replace it with yo kai watch

[raven cove]

triple giselles placements

okay i’m on board

infinite undead

[onyx lynx]

never.

[onyx lynx]

i found it dw

[shell wedge]

This aged beautifully

[unborn raft]

we're probably sacrificing goku to evolve into this

then maybe an active to fuse into gogeta like vegito

[unborn raft]

and this WILL be a vegito skin

[blissful echo]

why is this lowkey peak

[tranquil tapir]

if I need to sacrifice my day 1 vegeta I am evolving another one idc

[subtle crest]

It will happen again!!

[thorn sage]

sacrifice vegeta for peak(goku)

[lapis umbra]

Can someone summarize the suggestion

[stone scaffold]

no

[tight valley]

Sacrifice Roku (Super 3) Monarch!!!

[uncut tundra]

and after that a bleach part 2

[dull wedge]

sorry

maybe after fate part 10

[uncut tundra]

what if we extend the battle pass to a thousand levels

and we add the fate units in them

[dull wedge]

cold...

ts might be the method

[uncut tundra]

[tiny bluff]

part 3

[median condor]

umm

i dont think hes that good yall

best case scenario he does 160k dps with his followup

[brisk cedar]

Ngl just a support bleed that buffs bleeds

[spice patio]

160k dps is good

And full aoe

And burn

And bleed

How is that bad

[main epoch]

its not consistent tho thats the thing

hes only gonna have that dps for a like half a wave sometimes less

[spice patio]

Well imma just use the coins from him

And get rrs

And just focuse on Gojo then

[teal bloom]

He has burn so 200k

[void ermine]

not counting burn and bleed

[unborn raft]

sukuna is fucking insane

(450k2+0.6450k)/5.6

soo 1170/6 is 208k dps

5.6* mb

[cunning zephyr]

He doesn't have bleed at max though, no?

Follow-up only triggers once and is inaccessible when enemies stop spawning, and if you want to keep taking advantage of cleave follow-up, you basically have to leave his cone set to last

He's probably just right next to gojo on TL tbh

[unborn raft]

Does attack 2 not apply bleed?

[unborn raft]

You don't, his multihit full aoe will apply cleave on most occasions

thats if his followup can actually trigger before he lands fire arrow

[cunning zephyr]

If he insta-kills an enemy, it won't.

[unborn raft]

Cleave on fire arrow isn't applied if he instakills?

[cunning zephyr]

The full-aoe will apply cleave, yes, but if you want to keep doing that, you still have to set him to last so he can attack enemies that aren't cleaved

[cunning zephyr]

It's not applied on any attack if they die in one hit

[unborn raft]

that seems unintended considering its supposed to be on attack"

[cunning zephyr]

If you take him to namek and place him for example, he won't do follow-ups for a long while

Enemies don't live long enough to actually have cleave applied

[unreal vessel]

Guts.

[cunning zephyr]

If there's no enemy alive with cleave, there's no target for the follow-up

[unborn raft]

what does guts have to do with this

[cunning zephyr]

what

[unreal vessel]

Guts spawns demons with 700k+ hp

[unborn raft]

mfs js sayin whatever

[unreal vessel]

Constant follow-ups

[unborn raft]

that's more of a unit-synergy than pat of sukuna's kit

[cunning zephyr]

Guts requires takedowns for it

So if you're left with only a boss and not enough enemies

[unborn raft]

5 takedowns is happening in a fraction of a second lets be real

[unreal vessel]

It’s 5

[cunning zephyr]

There comes a point where you run out of takedowns

[unreal vessel]

And guts does full aoe damage every second

[unreal vessel]

I’m pretty sure by then a boss is gonna be dead😭

[unborn raft]

This is the same logic as saying Yhwach is bad because he can't do 2 attacks when theres only a boss on the field

[cunning zephyr]

he applies a single bleed

his attacks are only every 10 seconds

[unreal vessel]

No

He applies bleed whenever enemy enters range that isn’t bleeding

[unborn raft]

when stunned

[cunning zephyr]

Yes

[unreal vessel]

And those assists count towards demon spawn

[unreal vessel]

Use nose

Very good on him

[cunning zephyr]

Yes, I know

[unborn raft]

we know gang

[cunning zephyr]

I still don't think sukuna is as strong as the TL or anyone really glazes him to be

High meta, for sure

[unreal vessel]

Also when a boss spawned 90% of the time there is weaker enemies with them

[unborn raft]

wat

wait*

aren't you and the other testers supposed to be making these tls

[cunning zephyr]

No?

[unreal vessel]

when enemy spawn runs out he’s gonna lose dps obv but I don’t think it’s that big of a deal considering the benefits he provides

[cunning zephyr]

Kamui's the only tester thats a part of TL making. Oh, and migo now iirc

idk who else is involved

[unborn raft]

.

i was mislead

[minor zephyr]

Dude hop off Sukuna

Ur counter arguments are so bad

[cunning zephyr]

ik the page just says "ranked by testers"

[cunning zephyr]

what

[cunning zephyr]

I'm not even glazing him

[cunning zephyr]

those are the only two I know of because iirc they were listed beforehand

and then it got changed to say ranked by testers ig

but I know most of the team isn't really involved in the TL

[unborn raft]

you guys should have designated tl makers

[cunning zephyr]

they basically are atp

[unborn raft]

give them a role bru

[unreal vessel]

Wait wtf who did this

[cunning zephyr]

All I know is that the units were actually balance tested a lot by the balancer to get actual feels for them and make sure they were performing fairly well.

[unreal vessel]

Why is kaguya and esconar below griffith😭

[cunning zephyr]

Because griffith costs 1k to max

[unborn raft]

cost/damage ratio =/= good bro

[cunning zephyr]

And then just makes you money on top of that too

[cunning zephyr]

I mean, it kinda does

That's a huge part of it

[unborn raft]

yhwach and griffith just shaft everyone on their damn team to do subpar dps

subpar is an overstatement but you get what i mean

[cunning zephyr]

Has slow, repulse, a very large full aoe buff, DR ignoring, reducing the DR of enemies in range baseline anyways

Griffith doesn't really

[unborn raft]

ashduyqywgdyqgsadasd

i js don't like how easy griffith is to max and get compared to how good he is

[minor zephyr]

where's ur counter?

are u going say he's trash

[unborn raft]

no because i'm not a knobhead like you

[cunning zephyr]

I think fully maxing was a little overkill

[unborn raft]

Definitely, something like 30% cost reduction would've been fine

[cunning zephyr]

But if he didn't, he'd feel a lot worse. He did before he got that

[unborn raft]

And then the obtainment method is WAY too easy

[cunning zephyr]

Maybe reduction based on sacrifices

idm the obtainment method

it is what it is

[minor zephyr]

what?

we forgetting he can heal

enemies by their full hp?

[unborn raft]

Barely ever

[minor zephyr]

"barely ever"

[unborn raft]

If you run a full aoe with him on your team (like you always will) they don't get close enough to the enemies to buff their max hp

[minor zephyr]

you know they fixed him right

n his demons now scales

PER wave

so while he's constantly summoning they also rise up the hp of demons per wave

[unborn raft]

I stand with what i said

[minor zephyr]

yeah you saying griff is trash?

with no explanation?

[cunning zephyr]

[unborn raft]

Whatever helps you sleep at night mushy

[cunning zephyr]

not a big deal tbh

the issue is that it can affect bosses when it shouldn't

[unborn raft]

Fair tradeoff

If you aren't running the aoes to kill the demons before they get close then its deserved

[minor zephyr]

yall be switchin up often

like you guys arent sure whenever if its a bug or not

[unborn raft]

I'm pretty sure he'd know whether its a bug or not

[cunning zephyr]

Last I knew, Shin was working on making it not work on bosses. I don't know the status of that tho

Because the way the sacrificing is currently handled, it just removes the previous enemy and spawns a completely new one with maxed, buffed health

It was supposed to just increase their max hp and heal them for the difference

[unborn raft]

Why isn't this system in place already anyway...?

[cunning zephyr]

Beats me

Might've been too difficult to get working in time

[unborn raft]

welp

more suggestion making time

[elder mesa]

💀

we aren’t getting another db vanguard for at least 2 years 😭

[unborn raft]

ALS made it happen this game can too (it won't 😭)

Honestly I don't even care about the rarities just give me MUI

[balmy sigil]

Can y'all stop chatting here so my suggestion can get some stars instead of 5 whole Xs 🥺

[shut flame]

both are buns, go for the real goat

[modern kraken]

😭

[shut flame]

rare unit

[unborn raft]

JUST DUMPED 850 RRS ON FUCKING GRIFFITH AND GOT NOTHING

I HATE MY LIFE

7 solars

the LAST REROLL WAS SOLAR

this is worse than the 500 rr shaft with 6 solars i got on yhwach

[unborn raft]

don't even wanna talk about how i had to go to pity on sukuna's ass

[shut flame]

i had to hit pity for monarch the smith

[main epoch]

L

[unborn raft]

are you deadas

[shut flame]

yea

i use rimuru so i don't have anyone to roll on

[unborn raft]

meanwhile some fucking useless noob is gonna get monarch griffith sukuna and yhwach in 5 rrs

FUCK THIS GAME

[shut flame]

wow wow bro

[main epoch]

Me bro

[shut flame]

don't insult rubi

he is stupid

[main epoch]

Got both yesterday in 100 rr

[unborn raft]

IF I GO TO PITY ON THIS STUPID FUCKING USELESS UNIT I'M GONNA TWEAK

[main epoch]

Av truly blessing the noobies

[shut flame]

you will

[shut flame]

my friend show me he hit pity for griffith and then he got a shiny

[unborn raft]

Thursday September 11th 2025

i'm down over 500k at this point on shiny gojo and get nothing in 850 rrs on griffith

sometimes i wonder what keeps me going

[modest path]

850 isnt even a big deal

[unborn raft]

yes the FUCK IT IS

I JUST WENT TO PITY ON SUKUNA AND I CAN'T EVEN GET THIS

[shut flame]

lol

[modest path]

yhwach is just not a lucky unit in general

he also took me like 1300

[unborn raft]

AUTOMOD TRIED TO SUPPRESS ME

[unborn raft]

I'M TALKING ABOUT GRIFFITH

[shut flame]

wow wow

[modest path]

i got mine in 300

can i even get 800 rrs before upd

i got 724 rn

[modest path]

i want that monarch broly

[shut flame]

sukuna is not it bro

go for rimuru

🔥

[unborn raft]

Along with Miso on Thursday 11th September 2025 you will be dealt with

[modest path]

[shut flame]

rimuru slander

the smith bring him to the meta

you all are just blinded for sukuna

[elder mesa]

sukuna propaganda

[fair cliff]

If you wouldnt mind can u summarize this

[unborn raft]

so basically this was pre-sukuna familiar

and talking about how it was unfair for gojo to receive a rework while sukuna was denied of one twice

[unborn raft]

finally i can sleep

okay i'm ACTUALLY done this time

[tight valley]

Horrible

Do it again

[shut flame]

shit look ass

[unborn raft]

i can't tell if you guys r being satire or not

[thorn sage]

Kiss or

[shut flame]

satire yea...

lacks something

[unborn raft]

i know what it lacks

[unborn raft]

is this better

[shut flame]

oh fuck you

[tight valley]

Ig u still need to do ui

[thorn sage]

Make it show goku whooping vegeta

[abstract veldt]

make gogeta familiar now

[brazen ibex]

she's a support only and nothing else 💔

[brazen ibex]

pls buff goku

its totally not becuase i have him monarch

[tranquil tapir]

Rimuru + Fairy + Smith... 🤔

[shut flame]

monarch smith

[brisk cedar]

Goated

[forest stirrup]

Who you got above him?

[cunning zephyr]

I don't really care about TLs, I don't rate units

[unborn raft]

wow its almost like his silhouette is in the thing

[median condor]

i feel like the nuke should be better

[unborn raft]

500% is good enough

[median condor]

well ur choosing between probably a way better unit or a 500% nuke

[unborn raft]

yep

[tranquil tapir]

reduce the cooldown to a minute and a half and it would be tuff

[hallow ocean]

Why is this thread even still up💔

[unborn raft]

it has to be active for 14 days before it gets shut

[hallow ocean]

oh alr

[hallow ocean]

.

[minor zephyr]

can someone explain what this suggestion is about? or what is the op really asking for?

so many unnecessary yapping

[long quail]

This aged well

[cursive venture]

This suggestion was made before sukuna familiar was introduced to the game

[minor zephyr]

so he was

asking for a sukuna familiar?

i see i see