#The Sukuna Situation
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Shiny gotten better
I still say ethereal is best on him
We just need to remodel buu’s shiny now…
Not all units need monarch
we need
Facts
I love how after av did a berserk upd a few other games were like let’s do berserk
Not gonna say no names 👀
Ifykyk
No
Berserk is just in season apparently
Do tell
what other games been doing it
Just 2
these all the ones im aware of
Ok g money here’s a better way to explain
Can the vanguard rarity color gradient of the familiars be applied to the units themselves if the familiar is equipped
Cant believe guts is meta... but in which game...
Aut for some reason after av did
yea i saw lowkey peak idea
why even is AUT doing it
of all the games
AUT??
But is it possible
Can the devs feasibly do it
im not sure
They haven’t posted any news but they made the logo guts and been posting vergil sneaks 💔
They came outta no where with it
Delta update was peak
No to goku
💀
i enjoyed delta update, a lot of people didn’t
lol they still got broly for some reason
I wonder why

Bro tusk in aut is so brain dead
I don’t see the problem 🙏
I’m not fighting a tusk in aut
Bro you got it atp
And I thought I was toxic using true cid
Imagine if we got delta in av
Oh wait
Ight time to go subject myself to the last 5 ant king raids
Pray for me please
someone suggested a delta skin
For who tho
That wasn’t delta
oh gang it was delta skin for kirito
💀
they saw an outfit rec in artwork and suggested it be a skin in game
we don’t even got kirito?
i see why it’s gone now
alr fried, sleep time 
We will just go from suggestion to suggestion...
😭
Bye bye post
which one
he lied btw
like not even as a “oo hihi were hiding info~” no he deadass just lied
jelo pisep
Nice lol
🔥
so that
just wasnt fake
well i based this one off of that anyway so its a winwin
still sad domain aint mapwide but wtv
yeah just the fact that its a domain though, every other domain ingame is a mapwide
plus he barely has enough time to stack the domain buff cause it lasts like 5 seconds
It is not consistently gonna be 180k lol
More like 90k for most enemies
Whilst the newest enemies in the cone take double damage for 1 hit
Still insane
Depending on whether be buffs himself or not hes one of the highest full aoe dpses
why did they fumble sukunas familiar
wdym fumble 😭
Bait.
he is full aoe nearly always
yeah still so boring
hes dps isnt even that good icl
its like 300k
every 5 seconds or smth
well its a familiar gng, not a full ass rework
Youre mistaken
compared to gojos familiar it seems stupid
and sukunas been hyped to get a double evo then that was cancelled down
so why not give him a good familiar
is this ragebait then, gojo's does nearly the same thing
but gojo stuns
gojo has more dps
has the follow up attack
so thats cool
full aoe
sukuna also got follow ups??? 😭
attack 2 is a full aoe btw
w the familiar ?
yeah hes good then
Sukuna does not do 180k to everything in his range lets calm down.
wait where are these calculations
how op is sukuna now 😭
180k is insane if true
This is with the 1.4x max upd damage. Youre looking at 100k damage to regular enemies at 130k to bosses. Youre stupid if you assume that youre getting x2 dps on everything in range the entire time.
If you consistently want the full aoe dps youre gonna keep him on last.
ok so thats 300k every 5 seconds?
Youre bad at math too
1.4x = 105k
The max damage with shrine calcs is gonna be 1.7x
Ie 127k
Familiar is 200%
So 3x
Assuming he buffs himself
The damage should be 450k
Then you have 30% bleed/burn
every 5 seconds
Yeah
every what seconds? 5.7?
he alow follows up
5.7
No just 1
Follow up isnt gonna consistently hit everything in tanfe
he ends w burn right
isnt attack 2 full aoe
apparently
If you want consistent follow ups you set him on last
It is full aoe
But you need to keep the cone on last
why not rework sukuna atp 🥀
Cuz familiars are good enough
I see
Anyway its gonna be like 100k dps and 130k boss dps probably
doesnt cleave buff bleed dmg
Most of the dps is full aoe
thats good ig
Which makes him very very good
cause of the curse dps
Prolly 6 or 7
but does he lose bleed when maxed or nop?
im ass at math can someone explain :3
If you have the cone targeting the first enemy youre not gonna consistently apply rupture
And you wont consistently get follow ups
You need to apply rupture on new enemies
Hence the cone attack stays on last
Whilst the full aoe attacks everything in range
Idk how the hell youre x2ing it
the full aoe will apply cleave, no?
Yeah, you wont infinitely chain those
I dont think atleast
80% of the time you are
cleave bleeds right?
cleave buffs bleed
On paper calcs are as worthless as it can be
and sukuna doesnt bleed last upgrades
ik
anything to reject the notion of sukuna ever becoming better
and sukuna doesnt bleed last upgrade
isnt that kinda stupid
unless attack 2 procs bleed
which it might?
it does
I already said its gonna be like 110k regular dps
If i was against it i wouldnt have rolled like 1050 times
So yeah
ig sukunas a good curse addition
The 180k dps calc is assuming the regular attack and the follow up hits the same set of enemies
Which is not gonna be the case most of the time.
The follow up will be what damages most enemies in range
Whilst the cone is gonna be set on last enemies
Anyway only way to properly calc dps in this game is total damage/total time
Im assuming hes pretty fucking good though
guts is never getting gapped ever fr
the second guts is slightly out of meta hes getting vanguard familiar and then a double evo
trust
Nah
Guts with a good familiar > Sukuna
Without 1 sure
all guts needs is the nose
Thats kinda the balancing point of these, i suppoze
yeah
for sukuna evo does itadori need the final hi
Yes
they need to make it so i can track thsi shit bruh
yo sensei @unborn raft what software do u use to make these custom passives
well 1. its a website not a software
2. i'm switching off of it when i find a good software
do you still wanna know
wait
no sukuna event gojo event and recurring deca
and the 10 free rrs
all on at the same time
rerolls are so easy in this game rn 😭
daily rewards are busted
whiuch si so good
even the monthly tea and
😭
sooo easy
can i like
send a link of another suggestion here
even if its unrelated
its js something that annoys me
i need it to be changed or smth bro 😭
stupid evnt sliders
event
why does it show the max amount in the shop
and not the max amount i can buy
wait not a link
links don't work here
unfortunate 😭
yes senmsei
too niche for people to actually want ngl
its a good qol tho
like why not have it
😭
im p sure
the summer event rerolls have it
so why not give it to everything else
would like it if it was on EVERY shop
no reason for it to have the amount in the hsop
and not the max amount you can buy
kaguya wont get replaced by sukuna
if anything its a buff to kaguya
cause of how good curse is
in theory it should
i dont think it does
a tester said she's not meant to get the double elements of units that have them
i checked a while back it doesn't but it should because he is a double elemetn
it doesnt iirc
she gets it from cid so idk why she would from sukuna
pixlr e
i'm too lazy to scroll up 
but kaguya w curse
alr
is so much better
cheers
he ould replace escanor if anything
no?
ok?
kaguya has dimensions and tp
youre oab dps rn
escanor has high dps
and a good nuke
ONLY
youre buggin rn bro
we'll see
theres nothing to see bro
lmao
sukuna glaze is insane
if you're using kaguya for dps youre not using her properly
Yeah fuck no sukuna is not top 3 just because he does dps 💀
is it worth going for monarch on sukuna
Probs but wait for fam jsut in case
bro what
"i'm not saying sukuna is better but he is"
like what
??????????????
if you have no one to roll on
i have 1.6k rerolls
they ruined the game its like als
roll on either griff
all this is gone in a week anyway
or whoever you dont have monarch thats in broken tier
recurring decadence and strngest quests are leaving
yeah all of its gone in a week
all of them
sadly
apart from skull knight hes overrated
yeah but sukuna
he cleanes and the debuffs buff him
imagine a stage that debuffs your units by 50% spa
now skull knight has -50% spa w full aoe
and cheap
and he cleanses
realistically dio oh is going to be better than all of them so its silly spending on anything but him
and with nose he has tp
yeah js save then
8.5 is soon anyways
8.5 will prolly have ar lly good worldlines unit
and ur still wrong
💔
best support ingame
ok and escanor is the best damage dealer ingame
he's the best unit ever
!!!
Sukuna and guts crazy combo with cleave and insane bleed
why is griff back on top 2 on optimal trait tier list
so he doesnt solo everything
stupid tl makers
move yhwach and griffith down PLEASE
his cost to dps ratio is even better than yhwach's
and buffing the bosses
another bum
ik
ill use both him and yhwach
on progressive modes
but i still think kaguya slams
and escanor
his top of the meta spot was more fair tbh
i dont see how kaguya slams
100kish when dimension is on
does kaguya cost 1k
does griff teleport
will that matter
100k dps is average now
in any gamemode
alr.
griff does what kaguya does while being way cheaper
i aint waiting 8 waves
for it to reach holy form
kaguya's dimensions aren't only damage buffs yk
%90 of the game dont require 100k+ dps anyways
Why dont u use both to buff sk
so ill continue using my kaguya
Sk my king
the only reason people dont use yhwach and griffith is because he requires effort
thats like escanors the best unit in the game
Perm win in pvp
thats why**
oh ur talkmbout sukuna
if you don't run full aoe with griff you lose
u can base a team off him the same yhwach does
sukunas not far better cause we dont even know how he works it
ngl now that i think about it
curse + fire = kaguya upscale
he should be
kaguya best boss killer guaranteed
griff x sukuna x guts is gonna be amazing
ggs man
kaguya is still goated
hes only annoying because of shields
but i cant complain
yh we dont know how he works thio
Bro really compare vanguard with secret
free afk without using any external programs is insane
this guy is saying sukunas better then kaguya
mind you a banner secret at that
When did i
not in terms of dps
1m dmg full aoe aoe the entire map
500k dmg with full monarch team btw
i said besides dps
He doubles his dmg
he doesnt reach taht does he
didnt c it
he attacks twice
roughly 250k dmg
but tahts when theres an extra enemy in range
theres always an extra enemy in range
not when all the enemies are cleared
1m dmg with cleanse lmao
the only mode i can think of that yhwach doesnt attack twice is jiji rift
cuz the enemies die quick and boss has lots of hp
thats like 1% of the time bro
escanor is cleanse buddy only immune if on 12 stacks
no 💀
fraudcanor cant solo gg ex solo
only godo side is hes cheap full aoe
good dps
400k
yea
yhwach solos gg ex w vsjw monarch
he doesnt need full team to be good
you burn slots with escanor anyways
deadeye works too btw
still its not solo
so i would count that as yhwach solo
ig its not that bad
or just burn
you can optimize a whole team around monarch escanor and u would still fail
take that bum white haired fraud back to top of meta
500m cid health btw
pretty sure w griff you beat it
scary words
cause he removes dmg reduction
never tried so idk
escanor beats shields btw
escanor doesn't even struggle with thrice
unfortunately he does
he does
its because he carries tournaments
no bro.??
dude i love escanor
escanor beats shields
but he does
if you can use him right
doesn't make your point valid
also its free rr farm
because im telling u im not just hating on escanor
he struggles on thrice
if you burn everything he's fine on thrice
wrong
kaguya better
he is
she slams
do you even have kaguya monarch
he kills the unthriced enemies and then once they leave his range they get burned
then you suck at the game
kaguya still slams
did you just not understand what i said
whats wrogn with sukuna whats all about this suggestion
made before sukuna got familiar
crazy
no need to change your shitty opinion
my traitless vsjw can solo story mode
shield:
wait till you find out about deadeye vsjw
who uses escanor without burn
using escanor without burn is like using ywach without a placing any other units
if ur gonna use him without burn then id rather use like kaguya
a rough demonstration of what happens
i cant send the clip
look in dms
we all have kaguya and vsjw already in our team
bb-b-b-bbut he has 200kdps
bruv acting like bosses in the game have like 2 quadrillion hp
icl my main team rn is kaguya escanor griff and guts
- i said unthriced
- he kills the unthriced enemies beforehand in every other gamemode
- you gigabuffed some enemies in sandbox bro
but thats for rifts
wheres vsjw brobro
and end game content where you have alot of money
ic
i got him monarch but his dps dont keep up
for rifts and stuff
you use him for summons
deadeye
the point isnt the hp
i gigabuffed the hp so they could get to his range
for short stuff i use monarch
...?????
yeah i got a deadeye one built
i js need the summons rn
but im too lazy
thats exactly why something like that doesn't happen in other gamemodes
what i was demonstrating was him being rushed by enemies at the start
because hes single hit
and because hes single hit
u have to wait 6 seconds each time for him to attack
and if theres multiple thrice enmies
enemies
yo can the devs like um fix the pvp please
they just stack up
remove it atp
like bro how am i supposed to do 5 daily wins when it just keeps frickin getting bugged
u realize u get 2 per win
right
2 pvp wins count per win
a way to make everyone run pvp is buff the rewards
still i keep getting bugged either way
goodluck getting matched the second time
wdym
it takes like a minute to queue
idk i did the quest got 2/5 and pvp just never worked for me again
skull knight
roll on escanor
didnt match with anyone
sukuknn
idk whos worth rolling on
sukuna
i have him mon
will be better probs
just dont roll yet
i wanna save tho icl
kaguya then
wait for anniversary
gojo
for next upd
i have mon
guts
yeah i will have to icl
i have mon
theres still 2 updates until anniversary 💀
if sukun a and stuff are raw dps
whatever
theyll get outclassed
uhhhhh vsjw
8,5
anni aint coming in less than a month
wait
i have mon
is it not 8,5??
anni is 9.0
its 9.0
lol
ohhh
yaeah i have no idea u can just wait untill u get a meta shiny and roll on it
dont think so
i thought it was 8.5
soul eater
thats when the actual anniversary is
nah thats not too mainstream
date a live
im rolling on griff rn
after that its timeto save
date a mid
nuih uh
why not get both
and traitless stuff
i love how it doesn tshow what the units im banning are in pvp
they need to remove that griff passive
oh hn
if you sell
they tryna force co op to us
and add stupid shit like these
no he doesnt i tested it
or its just really inconsistent
if he stays on cruel rain
i think
thats 4 multi hit
he beats it
btw
even if you spend all of your rrs rn
you will %100 have enough for monarch pity
until anni
ill prob start rolling on sukuna
im using escanor to be fast and afk it not place in the back
he seems op
kaguya monarch alr
and the 2 other vanguards?
i only have kaguya to roll on then i have yhwach monarch, vsjw monarch, escanor monarch, sukuna monarch
then id only need like
jin mori
for dmg farm
roll on kaguya first
jin got powercrept so hard
not who im gonna roll on
bro was meant to be the ultimate dps
jin has 210k dps
jin mori and all buffs is worse than escanor and hebano
i aint wasting a slot for fraudbana
its not wasting a slot if shes basically a second escanor bro
now thats overestimating
its not
Holy moly sukuna is better than gojo dps wise
he is
and he finally does cleave on every attack
we are so back man
didnt think they would make him this strong
but we take it
real
dont worry lil bro you can watch my gojo being meta 
sukunas better
fuck u bud
are we even gonn get a vanguard in 8.5
full aoe plus ts plus immunity
dont want to hear it

sukuna better bro
i dont think anni will have a vanguard
escanor plus hebeno in the question
fuh naw
speaking of guts
does hebano only reapply 1 burn at a time
fuck shiny guts
or does she do 2 burns
he erased my 200k whole gems
all
is it the burn applied to an enemy or does she have to be near escanor
i never really understood
very nice game
sukuna buff bleed idiot
are u dumb
eh nah guts alucard and sukuna does more damage
''needs unknown element'' like ur not using vsjw anyways
hebano's basically like 1.75x the dps of escanor
what's sukuna's base dmg looking like
ur just stupid if u dont run vsjw and kaguya already
his only purpose
sukuna and guts is a cheaper combo
- most time you burn all your other units
oh wait sukuna does bleed and burn now???
yeah sure tame impala fan
use diavolo
shield victim
yh ik but i didnt think hes follow up would apply bleed
hebano, escanor, smith, and sukuna 
read first
bro i already read it
it takes 8 minutes bro
nobody is waiting 7 and a half mins
sukuna one of the best DoT now
for a challenge
that one smith mastercraft
oh dang yh ts gonna be op
sukuna only get burn on max upgrade and he removes his bleed which is the best from him right
escanor would maybe be a better option after the enemies scale
and vsjw fall out of the meta
till that time
kaguya slams buddy sorry this is the truth
without fam
his burn is the best dot on himself
with fam he cleaves on everything
he does both now i think, bleed and burn due to follow up
100k+ dps dont even matter
rn
yeah
ur slow
%95 of the game literally dont require 100k dps
rn
He prob dont keep bleed
so why would i use escanor
On follow up
when i can use kaguya and she solos everything
why would that be the case
go solo aot ex with escanor without havign to place him 300 times
odyssey is cool with him
afk
free 60 daily rrs
the devs made him this strong cause he was supposed to be a vanguards
It jst says atk 2 has follow up nvr says it inflicts bleed
His og passive says he loses bleed for burn

events
Atk 2 wud hve the aoe and dmg stat not bleed
aint braindead if it has shields
ur slow
buddy really said he could solo 20 shield dd boss
who tf is waiting 30 mins
to clear a single challenge
yeah he can (2 escanors vs shield)
bro escanor isnt even fun to use
only takes 3 mor emins
i'd rather place kaguya
than to wait 3 waves
to place escanor
guy just cannot accept his shi is not practical
bro if you only use escanor for everything, your gonna find the game boring
what is this logic
why would using a different character mean i have more fun
im just saying hes not a fun unit to use, he makes gameplay so fucking boring
works like a charm
maybe because hes meant to afk man
im not saying hes not broken
im jusrt saying he lacks iq to use
just use kaguya like
^ lets not be slow now
i simple stated a fact
escanor is a one trick pony
that ruins the fun of the game
hes prob the same type of person that asks for escanor multihit
or calls vsjw trash because he has mid dps
bro my shiny luck is genuinely off the charts wtf
his shiny is geniunely so buns tho
very unfortunate
i expected a better shiny for skull knight
ugliest mf alive
ass shiny
aa shiny sk was goated
face only i could love 💔
i just realized that
all my berserk units
are shiny
if only my ESCANOR
AND KAGUYA
WERE SHINY
i was so unlucky on shinys
on this upd
guts ate my whole 200k
without any
and griff took like 40 tries
whats going on in two days bro
so im fine w it
im nearly down 600 bro
2 days until trailer drops🔥
i mean the upd is supposed to come out in like a week or so
guts took me 800 ur getting it soon trust
i can buy 245 more or buy 245 rerolls
guts took me 600 aswel 😭
do we know anything about what units the devs suggested for anni??
i think we only know kazi is adding a character from fate grand order
he didnt say who tho
enkidu incoming
they need to give more uses for blue essence stones
where did u hear this
i was joking

im so happy that part 8 josuke is coming to av
?
u heard me
how do oyu know
batu the new developer sent a 🫧 emoji on #「📣」sub-announcements and also sent a josuke vs WoU gif on #「💬」general
lmfaooo
and i have 200 rrs unclaimed from summer
icl the units this upd were woerth
event
yeah
im saving everything for 9.0
its anni so they have to go all out on the units fo sho
yessir
9.0
i have to wait another month to spend my rrs
but its all good
u think they would release an anniversary as a .5 upd
u tripping
yes
i dont see why it would matter
Nah, we getting the knight
I need to see maximum potential with him
.5 and .0 updates genuinely dont matter
they give out like basically the same content
anyway jjk season 3 trailer just dropped
wait whos the knight