The Sukuna Situation

[unborn raft]

what even is gojo's element

[elder mesa]

i was thinking of making a custom one for him

[unborn raft]

what were the buffs

or what was it called

[elder mesa]

something related to his limitless ability

applying slow to enemies in his range

like ALS

or salter

[fast shell]

Erm

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[shrewd hound]

Erm

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[tight valley]

Well, sukuna vanguard is 6ft underground

Rip

[stone scaffold]

well..yeah?

[minor zephyr]

why should sukuna be burn

unknown dont make sense

[tight valley]

Yeah but like, we couldve dream about it

[minor zephyr]

meta

[tight valley]

Its not like he has an attack that its a fire arrow

[small sage]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-sukuna-fading-in-fade-in-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-14131054747367487668

[crystal bison]

have you watched jjk

[minor zephyr]

so we can get 60 rerolls per day

[outer mantle]

Shut up nobody likes sukuna

[minor zephyr]

yes

[crystal bison]

thunkuna

[minor zephyr]

he barely used fuga attacks in the manga either

[tight valley]

[Copyright Claim] Heian Form???

[elder mesa]

look who it is

[median condor]

WE DID IT

[distant pulsar]

the leak was real

[minor zephyr]

not me thinking griffith should not have any downsides at all

[spiral wraith]

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[minor zephyr]

another 20 free rrs per day

[elder mesa]

giving enemies more hp and deleting units for no reason is way too much

[minor zephyr]

dont get too happy

200% dmg is too low sukuna barely does dmg💔

[dull wedge]

Holy

[dull wedge]

He's SO broken as support

[median condor]

how can u see the passives tho

[minor zephyr]

they

[minor zephyr]

#「📚」update-log

[median condor]

if they do my boy

wrong again

[dull wedge]

sir

fym

thats broken ash 😭

[woeful merlin]

So basically he’s spamming full aoe

[median condor]

is it

also the attack 2 damage

or

what

[dull wedge]

insane for guts

[velvet tulip]

same way all the other follow ups work, current dmg

[median condor]

its not even bad

wait

that means

hes doing double damage

[median condor]

doesnt that mean hes doing double damage??

YOOO

NAH

THATS INSANE

ITS A RECHARGABLE NUKE TOO

[velvet tulip]

yea

[median condor]

THATS ACTUALLY INSANE

[median condor]

is the 200% additive

[velvet tulip]

works same way as gojo and 90% of familiars
base stats

[dull wedge]

and now i need sukuna for tourney

💔

[elder phoenix]

W

[blissful echo]

i just got ethereal on sukuna🥀

[dull wedge]

why are we complaining 💔

and we're lying

[median condor]

i wish he was a vanguard 💔

[blissful echo]

i want monarch

[velvet tulip]

so do we

[median condor]

so hes doing 130k dps or sum

[dull wedge]

eth better...

[median condor]

nah

[dull wedge]

he's insane support even if he falls off dmg wise

[blissful echo]

how is he better w eth?

[dull wedge]

bleed unit 😭

and i need to check if his skill is local

im not sure

[velvet tulip]

did you read the part of his familiar about follow up

also domain is global cd

[blissful echo]

[dull wedge]

i c

[spiral wraith]

The 30% buff to curse units is crazy, sk smiles

[dull wedge]

does that mean on EVERY UNIT btw?

[velvet tulip]

wha

like every enemy?

[dull wedge]

yeah mb

[velvet tulip]

each attack = 1 follow up
cuz you cant movestack

[dull wedge]

i c...

[median condor]

technically wouldnt matter cuz u have to wait for the next attack right

so hes basically attacking nonstop

[velvet tulip]

yea

as long as theres new enemies

[median condor]

i mean

thats the same with yhwach

and hes top 1

❤️

so sukunas basically full aoe with a decent nuke

and good dps

[dull wedge]

isnt it rechargable

[median condor]

mhm

180s

[velvet tulip]

not really

yhwach needs 2 enemies in his aoe

sukuna needs a fresh supply of new enemies

cuz dismantle is a permanent debuff

[dull wedge]

yhwach also gets cosmic for debuffs

[median condor]

ig

[velvet tulip]

Eh who cares about debuffs

[median condor]

bro

i was like

in the game

right

[median condor]

i was in the lobby

and then i get tped again

and i just thought i went to afk chamber

then im just in the lobby again and i get pinged in the update log

and i see my goat get a familiar

❤️

[tight valley]

Sukuna with his sweater 🔥

[median condor]

wait

does he buff himself

❓

[dull wedge]

uh

[tight valley]

Prob if u have another one with the familiar

[dull wedge]

@velvet tulip

[dull wedge]

im gonna assume its not INTENDED TO but ill have to test it to find out

[velvet tulip]

I belive he does

[dull wedge]

thats cold

[velvet tulip]

Cuz he buffs ALL curse units
Doesnt even need to be in range

[bright pine]

So, should I get monarch sukuna or nah

[stone scaffold]

i dont wanna spent rrs

[velvet tulip]

100% tourney meta this week, prob will be tourney meta whenever aot units are banned

[spiral wraith]

Probably, he seems to go well with guts and sk

[tight valley]

The anniversary units are gonna powercreep everything anyway so...

[bright pine]

but for normal content?

[small sage]

dont answer that

they will find out

[stone scaffold]

😭

[stone scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246915645719969844/1405495561435615305/ezgif.com-crop.gif

[small sage]

[stone scaffold]

u rn

dpmo

[bright pine]

time to evo my shiny itadori

[median condor]

theres no way

[tight valley]

Its inevitable

[median condor]

under 2 runs for him

😭

[spiral wraith]

Hope not, he aint gonna be a vanguard for that anyways

Has to go more support side

[onyx lynx]

boring familiar

[zinc star]

We all want dio oh to be the best unit in the game

[onyx lynx]

not satisfied with how either vanguard familiar has been implemented at all tbh

[dull wedge]

i think ts meta has had enough time in the spotlight

[woeful merlin]

by curse units does it mean jjk curses or like

curse element

[dull wedge]

im gonna let you

think on that

[final dagger]

its 214k dps, sure boring familiar but its overpowered

[dull wedge]

i dont think its ONLY buffing mahito and jogo 😭

[woeful merlin]

ok fair enough

[woeful merlin]

0

wait

no

GOSH DARN IT

[velvet tulip]

Do we even call them curses
Or do we use copyright name

[onyx lynx]

they arent mechanically complex like id imagine a vanguard familiar to be. doesnt feel like the gojo or sukuna familiar took too much time to be thought up, they do NOT have unique, creative, or fun passives like id expect AV to give units/familiars

[woeful merlin]

unfortunate happenstances

[dull wedge]

because...

[onyx lynx]

because big number damage is the only thing that matters to the average AV player

unfortunately

[dull wedge]

the units already have

passives on top of those

[thorn sage]

nerf sukuna then buff skull knight

[spice patio]

Fr

[dull wedge]

oh i fucked up 💔

[crystal bison]

g money

[onyx lynx]

some units in today's meta (such as griffith) and even units from previous metas or were never meta have loads of passives (buu, off the top of my head)

[crystal bison]

does he buff kaguya if you use her

on the same team

[onyx lynx]

i dont think thered be too much of an issue if a little more time was spent on cooking up cool passives for the vanguard familiars

[velvet tulip]

I dont see why he wouldnt

[crystal bison]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-albedo-succubus-demon-devil-gif-17314072211122746536

i might actually use familiar sukuna then

i got gojo's but hes kinda

bad

[final dagger]

quite frankly with how boring it was to obtain these familiars i think its fine, though if it was much more difficult and HARD to obtain instead of an actual free familiar then they should work on it

all you do is repeat 25 stages of odyssey for 5 days and be done

[thorn sage]

Next familiar is funny

🙏

[dull wedge]

saber*

[onyx lynx]

even slightly more complex passives (such as the ones within this sukuna familiar suggestion) would suffice. i dont mind particularly mind simplistic passives, but theres a difference between simplistic and... boring.

[thorn sage]

she aint getting nothing

[blissful echo]

saber is getting a vanguard evolution

[onyx lynx]

vanguard saber will be real

[thorn sage]

give archer one lowkey

[dull wedge]

YESZ

[blissful echo]

[dull wedge]

YES

ARCHER

[onyx lynx]

the community wants vanguard saber

[elder mesa]

its not happening

[dull wedge]

THE COMMUNITY WANTS FATE PART 3

[onyx lynx]

just look at #1353513423987802152 !

[onyx lynx]

nerdf

[thorn sage]

The community wants shirou 2

[final dagger]

You will get a unit like Frieren if it gets too unique gang, and we all know how that ended up, a useless unit because it had too many gimmicks trying to be unique

[dull wedge]

would love to see base shirou

[final dagger]

no one wants gurren from ASTD either 🙏

[elder mesa]

it was confirmed by valk that its not happening

[dull wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/shirou-emiya-shirou-emiya-fate-fate-stay-night-gif-25706340

[onyx lynx]

i dont care

[elder mesa]

astd is mid now

[onyx lynx]

kazi is more powerful than valk

[final dagger]

ive never enjoyed ASTD cant relate 💀

[onyx lynx]

kazi will bring us to salvation

[thorn sage]

I hope archer or funny gets the next familiar vanguard

[shrewd tinsel]

kazi knows vanguard saber will double the player count

[dull wedge]

istg if jjba gets one more unit

[onyx lynx]

frieren was unfortunately an outlier. AV has done several units more complicated than her, and theyve turned out more than great

[thorn sage]

dio oh unit

[blissful echo]

id say triple

[bright pine]

why did gojo already beeing stronger than sukuna got a 250% buff and sukuna just 200%

[thorn sage]

nerfs all unit in range but jojo

[final dagger]

give us vanguard familiar for igris gang 💔

[onyx lynx]

"so unique its bad" is a dumb argument

[onyx lynx]

my monarch igris would like this

[thorn sage]

sukuna is good

[bright pine]

gojo is better

[dull wedge]

he got a use

sjw evo

[blissful echo]

sukuna got way cooler passives + the 30% extra curse damage might also apply to himself aswell

[thorn sage]

nobody cares for that trash

[velvet tulip]

Cuz theres more to the vanguard familiar than just a flat dmg buff🤯

[onyx lynx]

i cant be the only one with this take

[final dagger]

😭

[onyx lynx]

yeah and anything more to it is shallow

[dull wedge]

nty

[onyx lynx]

🪦

[dull wedge]

ill take 10000% dmg on my saber please!

[thorn sage]

for the next poll, can they put archer on it

[thorn sage]

trash

[bright pine]

if he applies to himself maybe could be good enough

[thorn sage]

salter familiar where she NERFS saber in her range

[tacit tapir]

yes

[onyx lynx]

same with the gojo familiar

[tacit tapir]

buff my monarch gilgamesh and saber

[velvet tulip]

I will make it naruto, Sasuke, cha in, akaza, Johnny, giro
Trust

[thorn sage]

YESSS

[dull wedge]

done for today...

[thorn sage]

wait lowkey

[thorn sage]

give akaza one

[bright pine]

ikik, but I was hoping him to get better dps capabilities, not being just a support

[thorn sage]

i like his aoe

[onyx lynx]

johnny deserves a vanguard evo, not a Vfamiliar

cmon now

[thorn sage]

calm down bro

[dull wedge]

no

[thorn sage]

sbr anime is coming soon

they getting something

ij abt

[dull wedge]

not another jjba unit or evo

[zinc star]

Nah Johnny deserves an entire sbr rework update

[thorn sage]

3 more years

💀

[onyx lynx]

SBR out of ANY UPDATE IN THIS GAME deserves a runback

[spiral wraith]

Giving it to naruto units is silly considering theres still more potential for evolutions on them

[onyx lynx]

sbr is peak

[thorn sage]

Give akaza a vanguard familiar

[velvet tulip]

He does more dps than gojo

[onyx lynx]

that tedious ass evo quest for valentine only for him to be buns

[shrewd tinsel]

we all asking for akaza vanguard evo

[dull wedge]

can we gatekeep i dont need more competition in tourney 🥹

[thorn sage]

can we nerf saber

imo shes too good

[spark echo]

tengen vanguard familiar or second evo when

[final dagger]

apparently 214k dps full aoe aint enough

[thorn sage]

for a mythic

[dull wedge]

im struggling enough alr

[thorn sage]

“2nd” evo

[blissful echo]

this guy knows ball

[thorn sage]

bros evo is going to be nerfing himself

[final dagger]

sukunas familiar is miles better than gojos just saying 🙏

[velvet tulip]

If its not common knowledge that the sukuna will do more than 80k dps the reading comprehension problem is worse than i thought

[distant pulsar]

obito plat equip next

[hidden merlin]

Attack 2 was line aoe right?

[velvet tulip]

Full

[final dagger]

its dismantling slam

[hidden merlin]

Ok he might be decent

[onyx lynx]

vanguard familiars are super lame and if we dont step up the passive game on them then frankly i wont care for any more added in the future 😭

[thorn sage]

hes meta

[final dagger]

bro is already top 5-7 gang 💀

[onyx lynx]

big number damage is NOT the only thing that matters

[final dagger]

tho hes not immune

[blissful echo]

id say its more like 6-7

[spiral wraith]

Yeah you repeated it like 10 times, bring it up on a new suggestion atp

[dull wedge]

er,

[blissful echo]

😜

[onyx lynx]

where is the AV charm in the vanguard familiars of having actually interesting passives

[final dagger]

hed be 5 if he was immune

[thorn sage]

isnt he immune

when he gets fuga

[final dagger]

uhhh

[thorn sage]

thought he was

[hidden merlin]

To stuns

[thorn sage]

oh

[final dagger]

status effects only

[thorn sage]

good enough

[median condor]

theyre not designed to be a full rework

[shrewd tinsel]

idc about vanguard familiars because none of these familiars are for units i have monarch on

[median condor]

when have familiars ever been more than just stat buffs

[hidden merlin]

Me 2

[dull wedge]

SUKUNA BECOMES BURN ELEMENT ESCANOR UPSCALE

GG

[hidden merlin]

Best trade

[onyx lynx]

doesnt stop me from disliking them or wanting more from them

[final dagger]

who cooked this fire element rework 🙏 i mean at least its better than before

[dull wedge]

3% extra dmg for escanor 🥹

[thorn sage]

We should consider nerfing fate units especially saber and salter

[bright pine]

1%

[thorn sage]

then buff gilg

[final dagger]

(its not, my monarch zion cant solo spider raid)

[dull wedge]

fire element is goated

fym

[onyx lynx]

what is the difference between a vanguard familiar and a normal familiar?

[thorn sage]

naruto isnt fire so its ass

[dull wedge]

true

[onyx lynx]

vanguard familiars are for specific units, and are vanguard rarity

is it not reasonable to expect a bit more out of them?

[thorn sage]

no

[final dagger]

what is the difference between literally any familiar except the fact vanguard familiars are giving 2x-3x dmg

oh and did i mention

passives

[onyx lynx]

not to mention you have to spend at least 5 days obtaining them

[dull wedge]

im not sure but I think its only meant for these 2 units due to copyright issues no?

[final dagger]

yes

[bright pine]

change vanguard familiars to relics/heirloom

[dull wedge]

they couldnt actually change gojo so they needed something else

[onyx lynx]

not exactly

[final dagger]

sukunas is because heian was canceled

and gojo im not sure

his was just a poll

iirc

[thorn sage]

Sukuna went from ass to meta

[dull wedge]

won the rework poll yeah

[onyx lynx]

more units aside from gojo and sukuna were on the poll for units to come back to the meta

[dull wedge]

but they didnt win

[onyx lynx]

non-jjk units

[median condor]

sukuna deserved it before gojo tbh

[dull wedge]

i dont think there was always the familiar plan

in mind

[shrewd tinsel]

they cant do new jjk content cause of some legal stuff im pretty sure

[dull wedge]

if someone else won they could just rework it

[wild valley]

Okay we need to buff igris now

[dull wedge]

but since jjk won they needed a workaround

[median condor]

jjk part 2 update wouldve been sick

[dull wedge]

right there 🥹

[onyx lynx]

they couldve put a bit more effort into the "workaround" tbf

[final dagger]

thats right buddy, vsjw familiar for igris

[wild valley]

The blue one....

[final dagger]

consumes vsjw on use

[dull wedge]

they didnt make a new unit they just buffed an old one

[median condor]

why is igris purple anyways

was he purple in the manga

[dull wedge]

reworking gojo completely wasnt the goal 😭

looks cooler

[final dagger]

Gojo went to being fodder to actually useable, and Sukuna is more overpowered than people were wanting so whats the problem atp 💔

[blissful echo]

yeah its cuz his mana turned blue to purple- for aura purposes

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[blissful echo]

gojo familiar should get cooler passives✌️

[final dagger]

His commander version is purple iirc

upgraded in manga

[onyx lynx]

they buffed two old units through adding a completely new familiar exclusive to them that they could have gone all out on and chose not to do anything unique with said completely new familiars that they had no restrictions with creating

[crystal bison]

are these cool 🥀

[wild valley]

IGRIS BUFF PLEASE

[bright pine]

for me they could have been more creative with the familiars. Maybe add an active/extra attack, or changing his base passives

[onyx lynx]

both vanguard familiars have left a bad taste in my mouth

[bright pine]

but still good change tho

[final dagger]

These are honestly worse than what he has rn 💔

Except the cleanse ig

[crystal bison]

my glorious glorious king

[crystal bison]

how

[median condor]

bro why didnt they add a mahoraga passive

where he adapts

[dull wedge]

completely broken and meta redefining 🥹

[crystal bison]

they cant

[median condor]

to debuffs/status effects

[onyx lynx]

its aight

[thorn sage]

will ass get one too

[crystal bison]

mahoraga is banned

[final dagger]

His nuke rn only does 1.5 mil with the 200% familiar gang, you also take away his full aoe and follow up giving him 214k dps

[median condor]

i meant int he familiar

[crystal bison]

to be added

[median condor]

they couldve just said the wheel

[wild valley]

Wait he's not immune to anything but stun, okay he's ass

[velvet tulip]

When is igris ever even blue
I might be tripping but I remember shadows being purple

[blissful echo]

obito should get a vanguard evo- 6th paths

[median condor]

as a passive

[thorn sage]

dont give him no vanguard

💀

make his ass rare

[dull wedge]

im down,,,

[shrewd tinsel]

notice how naruto and sasuke arent here? its cus theyre getting a vanguard evo.....

[wild valley]

They were blue before

[final dagger]

Hes only blue when he first gets summoned, but he goes to purple when he gets upgraded to commander or whatever 💔

[crystal bison]

i meant like creative wise

[blissful echo]

i am just saying i can see his 6th paths form being a vanguard evolution

[crystal bison]

not direct power

[onyx lynx]

in the anime, iirc shadows became purple once SJW reached new heights of power

[blissful echo]

MONARCH AKAZA FIRST!!!!

[final dagger]

Creative wise yes

[thorn sage]

no

[velvet tulip]

Ah yea that seems right

[thorn sage]

fuck obito

[bright pine]

vanguard++

[crystal bison]

i made that like 3 days ago 🥀

[velvet tulip]

Its been so long since I read solo leveling🥀

[thorn sage]

He’s blue at the start

[onyx lynx]

creative wise? obviously yes since the passives we got on the sukuna familiar are one-note, shallow, and probably took like an hour to think up (if that)

😭

[final dagger]

Creative wise yall all fail, wheres shunsui from Bleach

[thorn sage]

its because we getting a new 6 tails naruto

[bright pine]

"sukkuna applies bleed to all enemies in range"

[thorn sage]

we won

🙏

[median condor]

wait

does his second attack

also apply bleed

[thorn sage]

we need pain arc raid

[median condor]

@velvet tulip

[crystal bison]

lowk didnt realize that sticker did that

[shrewd tinsel]

its cus we getting 3 consecutive naruto updates back to back to back

[median condor]

does his 2nd attack also apply bleed

[velvet tulip]

2nd attack?

[thorn sage]

his whole kit is bleed

[velvet tulip]

Like the diamantle slam?

[thorn sage]

besides fuga

[median condor]

his followup

[velvet tulip]

Ngl I dont remember

[onyx lynx]

can you tell that i really dislike the vanguard familiars we've gotten so far

[dull wedge]

ill check

[crystal bison]

is dismantle slam supposed to be this?

[dull wedge]

alucard still solos

btw

[thorn sage]

midard

I still didnt get him

so I hate him

[dull wedge]

😭

[dull wedge]

the original does

so it should work the same as a follow up

[median condor]

no ik

im talking abt the followup

[thorn sage]

nerf sukuna

nerf saber too

[median condor]

ban sukuna from everything

[dull wedge]

pretty sure it just activates the same attack so it should

[thorn sage]

vanguard saber before vanguard shirou

[median condor]

i could have so much more dmg

if i had monarch eizan

[dull wedge]

monarch aizen aint the meta no more..

its mori for dmg farm

[blissful echo]

skibidi kitty kenny is the best name you couldve thought of??

[final dagger]

wait is there no local cd to follow up 💀

actually

nvm

it only applies once per enemy

[median condor]

yes

[minor zephyr]

That don’t even

Make sense

To add Marsha while he’s still in yuji version?

[median condor]

dude why does my name not like reapply ifi change it

[thorn sage]

Sukuna takes evil bath in yuji body and summons mahoraga to fight gojo

trust

[median condor]

just make bs up lmao

so hes immune to stuff

😭

[dull wedge]

can we get a rimuru buff

tyvm

[thorn sage]

rimuru in august

[dull wedge]

rimuru still goated

[median condor]

rimuru ever

[thorn sage]

archer victim

[median condor]

rimuru from the start

when the concept was made

[thorn sage]

can we make archer meta

pls

[median condor]

we already knew he would be ass

[dull wedge]

yes

we can

[thorn sage]

i got all godly on him

with monarch

[onyx lynx]

can we get fate update 3

on the scale of the bleach update btw

[dull wedge]

this is still an insane ability bt

[median condor]

wanna know what i dont get

whyd they hide the sukuna familiar from us

[thorn sage]

cd should be 1 sec

[dull wedge]

should be a passive

🥹

[thorn sage]

and the +50 blast dmg should be a passive

yes

YES

[onyx lynx]

id like if AV would turn into FV (fate vanguards)

[dull wedge]

yes

[onyx lynx]

😁

[dull wedge]

i agree

[thorn sage]

pls no

[dull wedge]

can we solo focus fate units from now on

[median condor]

what does the shiny griffith even change

[onyx lynx]

pls yes

[dull wedge]

🥹

[onyx lynx]

WE ALL WANT ANOTHER 3 FATE UPDATES

[thorn sage]

does arc get buffed by ishtar

[dull wedge]

no

yes

[thorn sage]

lol

[onyx lynx]

i dont like you

ive been trying for shiny arc

[dull wedge]

no

wait

[onyx lynx]

SINCE SPRING

SINCE SPRING

[dull wedge]

i've reported this

i need to check again

[median condor]

bro they finally changed the daily challenges to be global again

[onyx lynx]

IVE GOTTEN 2 SHINY HIBANAS WHILE ARC WAS THE MAIN BANNER

[dull wedge]

ok no

[thorn sage]

ew wait

[median condor]

when they promised it in the 5.0 stage

[dull wedge]

arc doesnt get buffed by ishtar

[median condor]

😭

[thorn sage]

sukuna buffs skull knight and hiei now

[bright pine]

skill issue tbh

[thorn sage]

dear god

[dull wedge]

since she's in the spring category not the fate category

[velvet tulip]

She should

[onyx lynx]

arc is from tsukihime isnt she

[velvet tulip]

Shes prob just both categories

[thorn sage]

why are we buffing that monster skull knight

[dull wedge]

can i resubmit my bug reports that never go fixed...

[thorn sage]

🙏

[onyx lynx]

i dont think she needs to be in the fate category tbh

i mean she could be

but she doesnt NEED to be

[thorn sage]

no she does

ishtar buff is important

[dull wedge]

like from pre bug hunter era

[onyx lynx]

true....

[velvet tulip]

If theres no open report on it in #1362415670549151996 sure

[dull wedge]

yeah she doesnt

ill make a report about it

[onyx lynx]

uma

what uma is that

[dull wedge]

Jungle Pocket

[thorn sage]

that 19k dmg could go up with ishtar buff

[dull wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/jungle-pocket-uma-musume-jukebox-dancing-listening-gif-3725057556293495320

[onyx lynx]

i have a tachyon avatar

its really tuff

[dull wedge]

does it even count as a bug @velvet tulip 😭

[onyx lynx]

and haru

[onyx lynx]

noyesnt

[dull wedge]

i had one but @marsh latch stole it 🥹

[jagged lintel]

Senju is AFK: AFK - 12 hours ago

[onyx lynx]

and gold ship but her skin keeps turning pink for some reason

[thorn sage]

skull knight when he sees this

[dull wedge]

skull knight upscale

[tight valley]

Sjw mythic upscale

IGRIS UPSCALE?

[thorn sage]

igris nerf

[velvet tulip]

Ishtar not buffing arc?
Ye
As long as she's a fate unit she should be buffed

[onyx lynx]

she is but also she isnt

[dull wedge]

She's under the spring category

[onyx lynx]

its complicated

[thorn sage]

shes not fate but can we consider her one

[velvet tulip]

Unless my understanding of fate is so awful that she doesn't count for some reason

[velvet tulip]

Units can be multiple

[dull wedge]

fr?

[velvet tulip]

Ye

[thorn sage]

yes

[onyx lynx]

what units are in multiple categories?

[dull wedge]

THIS SUCKS

FYM

[onyx lynx]

i need to upscale my jin mori hyper-carry team

[dull wedge]

YES AND NO

[velvet tulip]

Until recently quetz was 3 categories for jin mori

[median condor]

why is av genuinely the best atd ever

is this crazy tos ay

[onyx lynx]

tsukihime is type moon and technically all type moon media is connected

fate is type moon

[dull wedge]

is tsukihime technically fate...

[velvet tulip]

For a while every event unit made
For some reason there was 2 categories for each seasonal

[bright pine]

its not ridiculous to say that

[thorn sage]

yes and no

[bright pine]

[thorn sage]

but we will go with yes

for av

[dull wedge]

ill make the report

[onyx lynx]

melty blood also exists

[dull wedge]

and see

[onyx lynx]

type moon crossover game

[median condor]

i used to hate because i had no content to do but like im genuinely having fun just playing the game

[tight valley]

Kinda late to think that ngl

[velvet tulip]

Outside of that i can't think of any
Our categories are just the seasonals + anime they from anyways

[bright pine]

it can get dry sometimes, but with the new events you always have something to do

[dull wedge]

WAITITTTT

[median condor]

maybe im biased because i just got shiny griffith and kaguya on escanor in 10 minutes of each other then my shiny sukuna gets a major buff

buttttt

who cares

[dull wedge]

wtf is a crimson moon unit

[bright pine]

fate

[onyx lynx]

probably type moon

[dull wedge]

makes sense

[velvet tulip]

Free bug report🔥

[dull wedge]

trainee tester soon...

[thorn sage]

are we getting another tsu character

lol

[dull wedge]

cold

[median condor]

is crimson moon like a fate arc

or something

[bright pine]

I have no idea

nott a fate fan

[onyx lynx]

no

[thorn sage]

archer buff is here

[onyx lynx]

its type moon

all type moon media is connected

[median condor]

what is that

[onyx lynx]

fate is a work of type moon

[median condor]

i hate you

[final dagger]

Does Sukuna buff himself? with the familiar 30% curse buff

[onyx lynx]

so true

[bright pine]

what is this pose gng

[median condor]

who even is that

wtf

lmao

[thorn sage]

sakura

[median condor]

ahhhhh

[dull wedge]

@velvet tulip should i report it as a low issue or a medium since its a mechanic issue but also super minor 😭

[median condor]

smartttt

low issue bro

[thorn sage]

big issue

[onyx lynx]

"Type-Moon is a Japanese company that produces video games, anime, manga, light novels and affiliated merchandise, co-founded by illustrator Takashi Takeuchi, writer Kinoko Nasu, programmer Nobuyuki Kiyotake and composer Keita Haga. It is known under the name Notes Co., Ltd. for its publishing and corporate operations, as it is the company's official name, while the use of the brand name Type-Moon is a homage to the founder's origins as a doujin circle of the same name. After releasing the visual novel Tsukihime as doujin soft, the group incorporated and commercially released the visual novel Fate/stay night which became the company's most well-known title. Both works have received several adaptations in other mediums that have amassed a global fanbase."

[thorn sage]

ishtar buff

[tight valley]

"Can we get much higher"

[velvet tulip]

Not being buffed medium, ishtar passive saying fate units low

[dull wedge]

alr

[median condor]

can someone look at my suggestions pls

[dull wedge]

farming reports...

[spiral wraith]

As far i know fate and tsukihime dont happen in the same timeline universe or whatever

[dull wedge]

im so goated

[spiral wraith]

Idk pretty confusing

[onyx lynx]

but theyre connected

all type moon works are in the same multiverse iirc

melty blood exists too

[median condor]

so sukunas dealing like

1.1k

110000

dps

[dull wedge]

ok official answer is out

ARc not getting buffed

is intentional

[north acorn]

Then it’s basically not a fate unit

more fate now

[dull wedge]

yep

[main epoch]

Archer VFamiliars 😄

[dull wedge]

we havent gotten fate in SOOOOOO long

we need more

[main epoch]

yes bro yes

[north acorn]

The people yearn for the fate

[velvet tulip]

Quetz

[dull wedge]

shhh

the people yearn for fate

[north acorn]

No that’s a burn character doesn’t count

[dull wedge]

the people need Crimson moon grand order..

[north acorn]

because nobody likes burn characters but escanor

[dull wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/asd-gif-27622988

FUCK

we cant have a vanguard gilgamesh

because he's limited

[main epoch]

Enkidu unit with Gilgamesh cameo?

[dull wedge]

we're getting celebrity guest stars in av now 🥹

[median condor]

bro i hate how ppl

think that

limited units are getting new content

[dull wedge]

😭

[median condor]

gen pisses me off

that one fillipino yter said in one of his videos gilgamesh could also get a buff

i forgot his name

because he pisses me of fthat much

[thorn sage]

lol

otter confirmed it

we won

[whole vine]

Most the bleach characters were done dirty especially ichigo and uryu

Yhwach is fine

[wind latch]

not my goat uryu

the goat for m

[ivory ferry]

ichigo deserves a rework more than gilgamesh ngl

[whole vine]

Facts they skipped over his bankai and went straight to horn which is part of his bankai

[thorn sage]

He’s fine

we just need the other arc versions

It all got skipped which is sad

but for marketing tybw was the hype at the time

😭

[whole vine]

Horn is a nuke move he uses it with his horn I rather that then them focusing on use sacrificing stocks

[ivory ferry]

fr i know that’s what was popular at the moment but they could’ve made it a mode

[whole vine]

It was

[thorn sage]

I want vasto lord

one of my favorite transforms

[whole vine]

No I get that I feel like Ichibae should have been added they could have introduced his a a weaken unit and true dmg if they wanted to put a true dmg unit

[ivory ferry]

I hope the devs don’t let personal bias pick units they want to get reworked over units who actually need them

[median condor]

i just realized sukuna's dmg potential

like

i wa thinking he was only 110k dps

[thorn sage]

gilg cant get reworked anyway unless he comes back

so he out the picture

[median condor]

but i forgot abt his burn and bleed

[thorn sage]

😭

which is also sad

[ivory ferry]

yea but knowing the devs bias towards fate a gilgamesh or fate vanguard will happen

[median condor]

I JUST REALIZED HE ALSO BUFFS HIS OWN BLEED

[thorn sage]

gilg shoudve been the secret

[whole vine]

Dosent sukuna buff all bleed now since he cleaves every attack with familiar

[ivory ferry]

gojo on top he’s the goat

[thorn sage]

yes

[whole vine]

Boom he’s support and dmg now

Buffing himself

[thorn sage]

Sukuna went from ass to meta

lol

[ivory ferry]

overall who’s better sukuna monarch familiar vs gojo with the same

[median condor]

he does 30% burn dmg, 44% bleed dmg, assumingly buffs himself with the 30% curse unit familiar buff

[whole vine]

But idk why ppl complain like AA would waste our time by letting units die and try to cash grab by doing it

Av dosent do that

They are trying to make units still viable

[median condor]

wait i dont think its 44%

i meant to say 24% mb

[whole vine]

I saw someone complain why is mounts in shop they still gotta make money some how

[whole vine]

You good

[ivory ferry]

we need a sbr update more than fate ngl they did sbr so dirty

[thorn sage]

lowkey..

why wasn’t he in the update

😭

[whole vine]

Otter I know you here convince them to add ichibe and my life is yours

[ivory ferry]

why did giselle get added over jugram

[thorn sage]

otter aint a dev 😭

[ivory ferry]

or askin

[whole vine]

Idc

[rose agate]

Is the Sakuna firmiliiar worth getting without monarch on him?

[whole vine]

lol

[velvet tulip]

Like 2% more bleed dmg🔥

[whole vine]

He better get to begging

[thorn sage]

uh

It wouldn’t be the worse

[median condor]

111k dps minimum only including his followup is lowkey insane

[thorn sage]

but you prob should get monarch

[ivory ferry]

counting aoe and passives and dmg who would you reckon is better gojo or sukuna

[velvet tulip]

Idk

[whole vine]

You’ll still let decent use out of him even without monarch

[median condor]

gojo for ts

sukuna for dps

[ivory ferry]

give jogo a familiar my monarch jogo is so useless

[median condor]

he can DEF reach 150k

[whole vine]

Man archer got done dirty too in the fate upd

[median condor]

dps

i think honestly he does reach 150k dps

[ivory ferry]

fr bro

[thorn sage]

like princess said

they all did

besides saber

fuck saber

[ivory ferry]

yea

[whole vine]

His ability relies on kills and it does no dmg

[ivory ferry]

saber got a whole update dedicated to her alter form

[rose agate]

How much is Sakuna to max?

[whole vine]

Bro saber alter and Ishtar were the best

[blissful echo]

like 85k i think- i might be wrong

[whole vine]

Idk who said put that passive that Gil loses dmg from other units

But I got words for them

[thorn sage]

Ichigo can still get another evo

if the anime extends on true bankai

so we ok

[whole vine]

I’d be fine with him being the next free vanguard

[thorn sage]

It’ll bring hype to av

[whole vine]

He deserves it cause he part of the big 3

And they did him dirty

Don’t get me started on Goku either

You never get to use fusion like that

[thorn sage]

Goku def getting a vanguard in the future

😭

[whole vine]

They need to lower the requirement for fusion

[thorn sage]

thats not even a debate

[whole vine]

And I swear they would see more play of Goku

[ivory ferry]

ngl they should let the community pick the vanguards since they rarely get added

[bright pine]

ui goku

[whole vine]

Yes but to edit that I’d say let us choose the next one from the mythic units we have

They can choose the event ones

But let us vote

[thorn sage]

[whole vine]

On the free

[bright pine]

dio oh

[stone scaffold]

😭

that is not happening after the anni shit

[whole vine]

They gonna mess dio up by making him too op or by making him underwhelming

[thorn sage]

akaza vanguard

[whole vine]

What happen with the anniversary thing was there controversy

[ivory ferry]

yea true

[whole vine]

I voted rukia

[thorn sage]

ppl got mad that dio won

[ivory ferry]

bro we need a zohakuten vanguard

imagine how the clones would work

[whole vine]

We don’t need another jojo character

This ain’t aa

[ivory ferry]

honestly I got mad to but knowing av they’ll cook hard

[whole vine]

Dio ain’t even that cold fr

[ivory ferry]

we need a sbr rework

johnny vanguard please

[thorn sage]

3 more years to sbr anime

[whole vine]

Like I like jojo but why we need another time stop character

Ya don’t even use dio alt

[blissful echo]

we need a vanguard akaza.

[velvet tulip]

You dont see the vision bro
Infinite timestop and reality rewrite is a cool ability, totally not boring

[thorn sage]

slayer mark akaza

give akaza ability no cd

thats his vanguard

[whole vine]

Make him a secret like they 2nd evo can be a different rarity then vanguard just make it a limit break

[ivory ferry]

I just realized we’ve never gotten double evo that doesn’t turn into a vanguard

[elder mesa]

if anyones getting a vanguard from demon slayer its yoriichi and kokushibo

[thorn sage]

thats where naruto comes in

[main epoch]

And not muzan?

[thorn sage]

no

lol

muzan gonna be secret at best

[stone scaffold]

muzan has less kit potential

[main epoch]

What did muzan do

[thorn sage]

hes ass

[zinc star]

Be a terrible villian

[ivory ferry]

they better not add new units make them evo from their old version and add minato

[elder mesa]

muzan is literally a bum

[main epoch]

But he looks like MJ

[thorn sage]

true…

[stone scaffold]

man

[whole vine]

Bro I swear make sasuke and Naruto separate units then make them fuse to be armored 9 tails

[stone scaffold]

i js want more duo units

not swap

but duo

[blissful echo]

you guys just dont understand akaza needs it

[elder mesa]

akaza isnt cool enough for a vanguard

[bright pine]

there are only like 2

[thorn sage]

tengen and akaza duo

[bright pine]

[stone scaffold]

they never even interacted

😭

[ivory ferry]

tengen and rengoku duo

[whole vine]

Bro that could be a evo

[thorn sage]

they did now

[elder mesa]

hell no

[whole vine]

Where their fight is the attacks

[thorn sage]

vanguard evo

[elder mesa]

what ddemon slayer is you reading

[thorn sage]

wrong upper moon bro

😭

[whole vine]

Mb

[stone scaffold]

why are we thinking abt ds so much

gimme slf

[elder mesa]

my favorite fight is muichiro vs gyutaro

[stone scaffold]

koku slams

[bright pine]

yoruichii and kokushibou duo unit

[ivory ferry]

ngl an sao update would be peak

[bright pine]

[stone scaffold]

literally

[whole vine]

Bro I wanna see the units we got get the love they needed that bleach and fate update was rushed

[thorn sage]

MOST of the unit is going to be yoruichii

😭

[stone scaffold]

but the devs would never do anything that cool

again ig

[whole vine]

And you can see the difference in the quality of how they do it

[stone scaffold]

its like once in a blue moon now

[elder mesa]

yoriichis nuke is dying from a heart attack

[whole vine]

From before to now

[thorn sage]

hes right bro

whats his name

kirito and hugo

or whatever his name is

[bright pine]

kokushibou attacks and mark enemies, then youruichi and make marked enemies explode and stun

[elder mesa]

sao is so mid

[whole vine]

Is hunter x hunter one of those that would get them copyright strikes cause if not gon would be good

[whole vine]

Speaking facts

[elder mesa]

ALS is fine

[zinc star]

Hell nah

[thorn sage]

https://tenor.com/view/sao-sword-art-online-saovs-aurelosk-eugeo-gif-26778586

these 2

[ivory ferry]

monarch kirito would go so hard

[elder mesa]

but at the same time hunterxhunter was their worst update in 2025

[thorn sage]

😭

[stone scaffold]

id rather a duo unit where both have their respective passives (with some synergy) and they alternate attacks

[thorn sage]

thats too unique and cool

so no

[stone scaffold]

and then an ability that lets them both attack together on some shared spa

[ivory ferry]

we should get a guilty gear part 2 fr

[whole vine]

I’m telling you Naruto and sasuke bro

[stone scaffold]

like some sakura salter shit

[whole vine]

Trust

[stone scaffold]

but nah

[elder mesa]

15K PLAYERS RAHHH

[stone scaffold]

we’re just gonna get some more regular units ig

💔🦣

[thorn sage]

im telling yall

theyre saving the duo unit for sasuke and naruto

[ivory ferry]

whyd we get guilty gear over persona

[stone scaffold]

lets hope the next vanguard is good

[bright pine]

kagurabachi update when

[stone scaffold]

and doesnt have another nuke

[stone scaffold]

true

[whole vine]

The moment they do a one piece upd all the fan boys gonna flock

[bright pine]

gachigakuta update when

csm update when

[thorn sage]

Do any of them even read that

[bright pine]

[blissful echo]

i legit made a suggestion on teamups and every hated it😭

[thorn sage]

😭

[whole vine]

Promise he’s gonna be a bp unit

[thorn sage]

Why

I like conquest vs mark

[stone scaffold]

this is js one unit

not a teamup

if ur thinking of astdx

type thing

[bright pine]

we need more actual anime updates

[ivory ferry]

an mha update would lowk be peak to but everyone hates mha 💔

[bright pine]

the most recent anime in av is ddd no?

[whole vine]

Ngl I skipped the gg upd cause I never played it nor know the lore

[thorn sage]

yes

[bright pine]

and that was like a year ago 💔

[stone scaffold]

huh

we got aot

[ivory ferry]

imagine a deku vanguard it would be so peak

[thorn sage]

the latest anime to release

[stone scaffold]

idk what u mean

[thorn sage]

the newest anime

[stone scaffold]

oh

ig yeah

[whole vine]

They need to figure out how to do Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann I’ll lose my mind

[thorn sage]

they aint adding that

😭

[stone scaffold]

why would they not

its not off the table

[thorn sage]

too peak

[bright pine]

like, so many good stuff released in the recent years

[whole vine]

FIGURE IT OUT ADD SOME MECHS

[thorn sage]

we all want fate part 3 and 4

[whole vine]

BRO ADD LULU

GIVE ME MY LULU BACK