It’s getting ridiculous at this point , the numbers keep going up and up every single update at an alarming peace. Nothing that released just one .0 update ago is considered meta anymore 😭. I want to get more use out of units that I might like but aren’t the best just 1 update later because new ones that do the same thing but better came out.
#Can we slow down the power creep ?
quasi hedge
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hasty egret
to be fair the new units are just doing unnecessary dmg rn
hopefully we stay at this lvl for a whilee
why do you think thats wrong mister
drifting loom
VSJW is still top 3 after 4 months btw
quasi hedge
VSJW is still top 3 after 4 months btw
not because of his dps , he has the lowest dps value in the current meta . He just has a lot of abilities
next update he’ll leave the broken tier
drifting loom
not because of his dps , he has the lowest dps value in the current meta . He ju...
its almost like the top meta are in that position for another reason besides dmg
quasi hedge
if it keeps going on this way
drifting loom
kaguya is a support
quasi hedge
in 2 updates the top meta will change completely
quasi hedge
kaguya is a support
it can do 150k + dps and it has a 10x nuke
drifting loom
griffith is not good just because of his damage, he self upgrades and also supports
limber pendant
It’s getting ridiculous at this point , the numbers keep going up and up every s...
slow downt he power creep?
what do you mean
quasi hedge
again not broken
quasi hedge
griffith is not broken
limber pendant
he's way worse than we though
quasi hedge
you can’t use shit while he’s doing his thing
drifting loom
griffith is not broken
lying
if hes not that op why are you complaining about powercreep 
quasi hedge
if hes not that op why are you complaining about powercreep <:Sob4k:136675203991...
last update the most dps you could get was like 150-160k
drifting loom
you can’t use shit while he’s doing his thing
thats why you use him while you farm
crazy concept
limber pendant
now it’s 400k
wdym 400k dps
drifting loom
last update the most dps you could get was like 150-160k
❓
limber pendant
who is doing 400k dps
quasi hedge
jinmori ? escanor ?
limber pendant
jinmori ? escanor ?
jin mori is op but he's no where close to doing 400k dps
even with all clones
escanor cant do 400k
quasi hedge
he does
drifting loom
you just keep thinking about damage but thats not the only thing that make units so good
limber pendant
you cant even tell us who else is op this update
complaining about power creep but not saying who is causing this
Guts can't be on the list because the follow up attacks lowk ruins him
drifting loom
escanor and jin mori do not throw sjw and kaguya away
and theyre several months old
sjw being 4 months old like i said
but he has insanely good abilities
escanor is just dmg
quasi hedge
show proof
drifting loom
jin mori is just dmg
quasi hedge
someone else did the math
quasi hedge
you just keep thinking about damage but thats not the only thing that make units...
then why do they need to add units with more and more dmg each update ? surely everything would be good if they would all be around the same but a little better
drifting loom
then why do they need to add units with more and more dmg each update ? surely e...
what
limber pendant
yo i hope you know jin mori isnt op
he just a dps machine
very easy to replace him or clone him
also
drifting loom
"why do they add new units that do alot of damage"
quasi hedge
6.18X
any problem there ? as i said lat update with all the buffs most you could get was 150-170k
limber pendant
he has no use
drifting loom
what are we talking abt rn
drifting loom
this is with AOT units
limber pendant
and he's using supports
quasi hedge
do you read my messages ?
quasi hedge
last update
limber pendant
complaining when nobody ir unning that loadout
drifting loom
and he's using supports
THERES NOT EVEN A FARM ON THE TEAM
quasi hedge
with all the supports
drifting loom
U CANT USE THAT TEAM AT ALL
quasi hedge
most you could get was half
limber pendant
oh yeah you can't even use jin mori in lb runs either
because u cant sell him
making him pointless to bring
he been out for a month and he hasnt been used for a tourney yet
not even one tourney
despite being a dps machine he's just another mvp unit
please stop looking at big damage numbers thinkign its power creep
quasi hedge
bringing up tournaments like everyone does that
limber pendant
bringing up tournaments like everyone does that
my point is that what are his use?
apart from being mvp meta
nothing else
limber pendant
same guy who think someone is going bring aot team + two buffs to take jin mori to 400k+ dps
quasi hedge
when everything will do 1 billion dps
limber pendant
what a loser
drifting loom
"durrr so much powercreep!"
quasi hedge
it is
drifting loom
yhwach is still at the top of the meta after nearly half a year by the way
quasi hedge
because he is used in tournaments and that’s about it
you need a team just for him to work
1 farm 4 rares and that guy
drifting loom
you need a team just for him to work
thats what you just saw with jin mori moron
but youre gonna call that powercreep
drifting loom
ok?
quasi hedge
ok what
quasi hedge
he was beyond broken from release ofc he would be good even to this day
proving my power creep point
besides you like to see it when 3/4 of the “broken” units are vanguards
drifting loom
proving my power creep point
it doesnt..?
modest oak
Idk but i feel like 1m is a nice number
Some units recently get to that dmg
I hope we dont get to the billions...
inner holly
Astd scaling 2.0
dreamy violet
the power creep really only exists within Rifts when you are going for mvp or leaderboards. You can clear almost all content in the game with outdated units
left shale
you need a team just for him to work
?
why do people keep thinking
you need rares for yhwach to do good damage
quasi hedge
well you certainly can’t use monarchs and you won’t get the most out of him is you’re using 3 placement units
at that point i’d rather use a newer unit that does more damage , sure he is able to clear most of the game by itself with using a lot of rares
but it would be faster to use something that does more damage
quasi hedge
"durrr so much powercreep!"
besides the vanguards that are incredibly broken on release anyways 4 units have been in the game 1 update ago
limber pendant
you need rares for yhwach to do good damage
Because they don’t know how he works
craggy valley
say you only look at dps without telling me you only look at dps
dreamy violet
yes im yhwach yes im butt
left shale
yes im yhwach yes im butt
Yes im an AV player Yes I don't know anything about my game
craggy valley
Ts powercreep getting out of control yo
hasty egret
what the heck is remy doing in suggestions
frail adder
guts isnt op
True 1.2 Million dmg + bleed
lost pond
then why do they need to add units with more and more dmg each update ? surely e...
Well the game was dying from a lack of power creep because it gives players no reason to really grind for the new units
craggy valley
what the heck is remy doing in suggestions
craggy valley
I was looking for the troll usopp suggestion and this caught my eye
limber pendant
True 1.2 Million dmg + bleed
brave lion
?
sick ingot
Nothing that released in 7.0 was considered meta dps wise ever
If anything rumbling is dominating tourneys
Griff and guts are meta what else is "way too broken"
Both units have clear downsides especially griffith
dense vine
why dont we just back to the dandadan days where everything was shit
dusk tree
Bro the power creep isn’t bad
Or perhaps u guys like the over complicated passives and stipulations for the units to be good
quasi hedge
Or perhaps u guys like the over complicated passives and stipulations for the un...
it ll get to a point where the gimmicks just don t matter because the newer units just do 2x more raw dps
sick ingot
Has it gotten to that point
People wanted powercreep instead of overly convoluted passives
They got it
Powercreep isnt even that much, the top 3 has remained unchanged.
Top 4 even.
quasi hedge
no , not yet at least
that s why i am saying it needs to slow down
because as it is looking rn it will happen
i think 0.5 update units shouldn t be significantly better than the .0 update units , that way the meta slightly shifts every .0 update
harsh wyvern
It’s getting ridiculous at this point , the numbers keep going up and up every s...
buddy forgot abt cha in
prisma saddle
there’s practically barely any powercreep in av tho lol
I will say yes there is powercreep in this update specifically tho
prisma saddle
Or perhaps u guys like the over complicated passives and stipulations for the un...
we hate those!
but yeah the powercreep isn’t bad at all lmao we aren’t anime last stand
dusk tree
Real
drowsy warren
i think 0.5 update units shouldn t be significantly better than the .0 update un...
yeah
thats lowkey whats happening
usually
but 7.5 only had a big creep because 7.0 had none
it was just compensation for 7.0
quasi hedge
7.0 had the rumbling which if not banned in tournaments it will always be used
quasi hedge
btw using the smith and griffith only jinmori can get 500k dps constantly and 620k dps by selling the original copy
with monarch ofc
drowsy warren
7.0 had the rumbling which if not banned in tournaments it will always be used
a gamemode
which abrely anyone plays
other than that its
useless
and since the banning feature works now
it only works every other week
limber pendant
a gamemode
bait take?
are you saying nobody in the community does tourney?
or that it's not a popular gamemode?
i mean the amount views cc get for just showing tourney videos proves it's extremely popular
limber pendant
and with the new skins added to it, it's evne more comp
drowsy warren
i mean the amount views cc get for just showing tourney videos proves it's extre...
7k/100k
so wait wait
you're sayin
limber pendant
okay wait let's say this
you and i don't have no proof
so therefore you and i are both wrong
drowsy warren
you and i don't have no proof
anyways
13% play giving the benefit of the doubt that nobody rewatched the video
or nobody saw the loadout
and just dipped like me
also
is it erally good for a .0 update just to be a tournament meta update
limber pendant
13% play giving the benefit of the doubt that nobody rewatched the video
they have to rewatch
it's important to listen
drowsy warren
they have to rewatch
this is quite literally
limber pendant
previous tourney already proves that
drowsy warren
not
suporting your idea
its literally against your idea saying that
which is why i didnt metnion it
long wing
Yall wanted powercreep and said units were not getting better and now yall don’t want powercreep
Make it make sense
quasi hedge
powercreep is good once every like 2 major updates
so the meta gets somewhat flushed out
if the units do significantly more damage each update
mint acorn
My monarch tengen can’t keep up with these number no more
quasi hedge
then the game just gets tiring to play
i mean from the current meta and broken units (excluding vanguards) 3 units are more than 2 updates old
and i am pretty sure byeken is still meta because it s broken for pvp
young solar
VSJW is still top 3 after 4 months btw
not anymore for most modes
quasi hedge
a gamemode
the mode is supposed to reward strategy more than the other gamemodes, but the best tactic is just using rumbling. that s the reason they fucking banned it for this week and probably from now forward
quasi hedge
VSJW is still top 3 after 4 months btw
we re talking about a vanguard unit , way harder to get than most . it is still relevant to this day because it was way ahead of it s time from when it was released
in 1 update it won t be broken anymore unless they buff it somehow which was confirmed won t happen
drifting loom
why am i being pinged for things i said 4 days ago
quasi hedge
i forgot about the thread and i just looked thru it now
young solar
why am i being pinged for things i said 4 days ago
i had to
drifting loom
magic lark
ywach and vsjw are both meta after months btw
drowsy warren
the mode is supposed to reward strategy more than the other gamemodes, but the b...
exactly
which is why that update
was shit
and thats why 7.5 had a good
power creep
cause it made up for 7.0s
lack there of
quasi hedge
power creep 2 updates in a row is not it
stone juniper
power creep 2 updates in a row is not it
what else do u want bro
drowsy warren
Every .0 should show a decent wmoint of power creep
stone juniper
like
av doesnt make units strong enough
people complain
av makes units insane
people complain
drowsy warren
Update 7 failed
stone juniper
😭
drowsy warren
So update 7.5 made up for it
stone juniper
yeah
stone juniper
huge factor of upd 7 performance was that the units were lackluster
queen vault
people complain
Av's cycle