Harder stages over mecro bullshit (Tldr at the end for lazy mfs)

[iron spire]

i mean in AV you also have to do some set up to be able to "press 1 and 2"

[icy siren]

Besides pity being added it seems to be the exact same no?

[grand ocean]

adding a TT event isnt fixing

[crystal yew]

i mean sure preparing the teams but for something like escanor u dont need to do shit

[icy siren]

Ph right and events

[iron spire]

except that escanor doesnt work for boss bounties or challenge 🥭

since shields and double dungeon act 6

[crystal yew]

oh yeah that shit i forgot about but being honest ur prob gonna need more energy in av to set up this shit then blox fruits

[civic lance]

events ( though some of them are just playing stages), pity, shorter grinds with ex stages ( with pities too)

not much but like i said they are slowly fixing it

[crystal yew]

not really just asking a question how do i get to the npcs without pressing wasd while in av i js press 2 keybinds and im good

i mean thats a possible option

[civic lance]

tbf alot of people started tiny tasking namek

but idk what its like starting av new

now*

i dont haev an alt

[candid tendon]

at release i got everything in the game except for igris, i did 50 stages and didn't get him, and thats when i started afking ✌️

[crystal yew]

with exploits prob

[civic lance]

ion think its possible to insta 🥭 either game

both require atleast like an hour of progress before you can

[crystal yew]

i mean in av once a new player beats the story they js gonna try to do some stages and they gonna mecro shit after that

if ur not on one mac book mobile/console im telling u are going to mecro after u do the content out of story a few times

[gloomy otter]

or optionally just quit the game

[crystal yew]

i mean some kdis are brainless and do have fun repeating the same stage over and over

[gloomy otter]

that shit gotta be a mental problem then if i do shit abt 40 times dont get it im popping a mecro

[crystal yew]

this is roblox after all

[gloomy otter]

ur the mental problem

how is having a program play the game for u a good thing

shit has me in disbelief

[azure sedge]

Ppl actually argueing against this?

[gloomy otter]

never knew rage bait this days were so ass

[gloomy otter]

well yeah we got this paid actor @night pebble right here doing ts

[grand ocean]

😭

[gloomy otter]

yeah cuz my mac book is for work ah purposes and cool games only

[grand ocean]

cool games only

aura

🔥

[gloomy otter]

yeah not shit that prac got me on gunpoint to mecro

[iron spire]

you can make most macs run windows

[gloomy otter]

i mean thats with parralells desktop and its only a weekly trial

im saying whats needed to be said

yeah i need a translator to understand what ur even saying
cuz the way your speaking and the self belief is actually sad

[tardy rivet]

i like this suggestion but they tried it with ex and people didnt like it

[grand ocean]

just did 20 manuel portals, ts so FUN!!!! 🔥 🥶

[gloomy otter]

i mean yeah thats why i feel it should be given as an option
ex stages were kinda forced icl

[grand ocean]

good idea bad execution

[crystal yew]

i think they did it for eren

[tardy rivet]

they changed it up and made it optional and people still complained

[gloomy otter]

yh goodbye chief make sure to get sleep u actually need

[crystal yew]

i feel its how the difficulty was implemented (havent played since like 6.0) so dont quote

it feels like massive hp boosts tbh

[orchid relic]

Cause cid raid was a 1% drop and 1.5% which was impossible to tiny task

[tardy rivet]

u can solo it with no traits

(aot only)

[orchid relic]

a game mode like cid raid but with 10-15% drop rate for a unit would be fine cause you don’t need to do it hundreds of times

[iron spire]

ehhhh

10-15% is really high im ngl

[crystal yew]

oh u could thats crazy but u need some crazy ass requirements like all aot units or sum shit?

[iron spire]

the only unit with a drop rate that high is eren on the ex stage

[civic lance]

which is fine if the stage is hard

[iron spire]

which was way harder than the cid raid

[gloomy otter]

i mean tbh if thats the case the stage should be really hard

[orchid relic]

Which is fine because the stage is hard

[tardy rivet]

u need like kenny and zeik iirc

[iron spire]

yea but raids arent really meant to be that hard...

[orchid relic]

Hot take but aot EX stage was done perfectly

[crystal yew]

ait safe better direction i feel like tbh

[civic lance]

but legend stages are?

[orchid relic]

High drop rate on a hard stage

[tardy rivet]

rs

[gloomy otter]

idk what the aot stage was like so cant argue tbh

[civic lance]

its problem was a modifiers that reduced your range to basiclaly nothing

[gloomy otter]

prob was a massive hp boost without no mechanical difficulty

[tardy rivet]

icl av ls are wayyy better than any other game rn

[orchid relic]

You either brute force it with monarch kaguya or use aot units and do it traitless

[gloomy otter]

which vsjw basically ignores? pretty cool

[civic lance]

vsjw acutally couldnt

brute force the staeg

[tardy rivet]

vsjw ignores range

not meter

[gloomy otter]

well thats way better then guilty gear stages imo and i hope they just push out this route then

[gloomy otter]

Fr? (havent played since 5.5 and this some suprising shit icl)

[crystal yew]

well yh they arent the target autdience the ppl that argue

[orchid relic]

People were complaining that you could do it with kaguya and not other units tho but I feel like it’s fair cause kaguya is a 0.005% unit and you needed a 0.1% trait aswell

[crystal yew]

i do like the way the devs gave them the option to solo

[sonic verge]

No bc they nerfed meter units

The gg units were pushed down iur throats everyone had meter

[grand ocean]

EX should be a difficulty not a seperate stage (imo)

[gloomy otter]

i mean yh and considering not many mfs would have access to that

[sonic verge]

But they made them useless on the aot upd

Well on release which is basically most important part of upd

[tardy rivet]

dosent really change anything icl

[gloomy otter]

i also do feel this way tbh they should be easier stagers for casual players and harder which provide more difficulty

rather then trying to balance between an easy and hard stage

[civic lance]

the problem was

the stage

removed more than half

the units in the game

any meter unit? cant be used

[iron spire]

EX stages, yes

[orchid relic]

Just bring a cleanse unit

😭

[sonic verge]

Al best cleanser meter

[iron spire]

there is a reason they have a different name

[orchid relic]

For meter idk that was bad

[civic lance]

the only one that isnt a hassle was Al

[sonic verge]

U think ima spam sakura a mil times💔

🥀

[civic lance]

surprisngly he and diego is the only limited units i dont have

[orchid relic]

I think meter drain shoulda been straight added to tournament and not ingame

[crystal yew]

cleanse units are pretty much useless as they js almost get the debuff instantly its should time based imo like they cant be debuffed for 30 sec etc

[grand ocean]

no like every leg stage should have an Ex variant, thats what i meant

[iron spire]

they fr need to make it so cleansers also apply a 5s protection from debuffs 🙏

[tardy rivet]

ah yea i agree

[iron spire]

well i mean

[orchid relic]

Doesnt vegito count as a cleanse

[iron spire]

the older stages getting an ex stage wouldnt really be good

[orchid relic]

Well not cleanse

[gloomy otter]

i actually fw that icl

[orchid relic]

But he can parry whenever your unit gets attacked

[iron spire]

doesnt count with debuffs

[tardy rivet]

hope this dosent include al

[iron spire]

i dont think at least

[iron spire]

30 is a lot

[orchid relic]

damn bruh

[iron spire]

orihime cleanses every 15

[orchid relic]

I hope there more long stages bruh

[iron spire]

that'd mean they'd get permanent debuff and stun immunity

[orchid relic]

I wanna use vegito but he takes forever to come out

[crystal yew]

oh yeah that problem didnt consider that lol

but should be a reasonable time period depnding on the cooldown of their abillity

[iron spire]

it should just be 5 seconds

not too long not too short

would make orihime actually decent

and sakura usable

al would still be pretty broken

but the permanent cleanses would be fine

[crystal yew]

yeah pretty good balance icl

[static zealot]

ngl i agree with everything except of co op focused stages

[crystal yew]

i mean we did say (as an option) though

[static zealot]

yea but still

i hate seeing co op

[crystal yew]

to me i feel its how its implemented in this as its just a massive hp boost rather then requiring ppl to actually coordinate and play as a team

[gloomy otter]

i mean cid was a good step up as if ur playing multiplayer ppl do need to coordinate like u get statue i get b etc

[static zealot]

the issue of that is that most people are stupid

[crystal yew]

i mean yeah cids stages to me was quite literally how the game should be it was perfect

it had difficulty scaling

if u had to do multiplayer you need to co operate

one person couldnt js solo the entire stage while others do nothing

we need more shit like this

[gloomy otter]

yeah that is also a problem
and the devs arent really the best at stupid proofing the gmae

[static zealot]

sadly that happends when people get used to external programs that do all the job for them
they don't think

[gloomy otter]

yeah they need a push more shit like this tbh
idk why the backed of the concept tho

[static zealot]

mfs using autoclicker on cid towers

like fuck

[gloomy otter]

well and that what happens when the game is designed to be played that way

[crystal yew]

well better than having me solo that shit while we got 3 dudes absolutely doing nothing

[static zealot]

how is that better
is impossible to do the code if some mf doesn't turn off their autoclicker or wait

[crystal yew]

well i would rather have that then having "co op" being solo'd by one dude with 3 others doing nothing like is that multiplayer at that point?

[crystal yew]

they're goal rn is prob to become #1

so they playing it safe and wont do this shit until they sure competition is donw

[gloomy otter]

well competition is down they like a 50k player gap

betweem av amd astd x etc

[crystal yew]

and they could as easily lose that gap to if they fuck around

[gloomy otter]

i js feels its more of execution the av devs seem to know what they want and know what to do

but poor execution

[crystal yew]

wdym

[gloomy otter]

like how difficulty is implemented in to the game soely by js boosting the hp

they want to make the game harder but dont know how to without ppl leaving the game

[crystal yew]

have ppl think/stratergize?

[summer frigate]

h

[gloomy otter]

i mean sure but that works only for so long because once players figure out the trick its gg's

[candid tendon]

theres no strategy in this "strategy" game

[gloomy otter]

i

[iron spire]

it also doesnt help that they introduce so many units with immunity to debuffs or self cleanses

which just instantly makes them way better than units with similar numbers but without those perks

or even higher numbers but not those perks tbh

[gloomy otter]

yeah and also this shit it removes any incentive to think strategically or coordinate with others

[crystal yew]

oh yeah i forgot some units js outright remove any difficulty this game has

i would prob suggest they put debuff on certain elements to discourage the usage of the unit tbh

[summer frigate]

dunno if I agree with this

[gloomy otter]

i mean feel free take ur time this shit is closing like in 13 more days

[gloomy otter]

i mean yeah but players wont receive that positively

[summer frigate]

good points were made about time being wasted yes

and repitition

[crystal yew]

i mean for me even though i might be biased they are some good points in this suggestion

like why does the game have to be so boring ppl get a program to do it for them?

like thats not how games should be designed to be played

[crystal yew]

well sure thats true but what other way do u propose of adding stratergy to the game without debuffing this type of units?

[iron spire]

a lot of them actually

yhwach, a SUPER old unit

is still #1 on the tier list overall

[gloomy otter]

yeah pretty much a fair point icl

[crystal yew]

isnt yhwach vulnerable to debuffs tho?

[gloomy otter]

the thing is his damage relies on the amount of units around him

idk how to explain

like if u reduce yhwachs damage he weill get it back instantly

because of the units around him

[crystal yew]

so shit like energy drain / reducing ur range wont work?

[gloomy otter]

yeah basically so hes gonna be in the meta for a long ass time

[crystal yew]

yeah the only way to prevent ppl from using shit like this is by debuffing them

[iron spire]

cosmic

30s self cleanse

and immunity to stuns

[crystal yew]

otherwise rework the unit in entirety whitch they wont do

[iron spire]

plus he self buffs so much

that the debuffs dont rlly matter

[crystal yew]

wtf this is an actual thing?

[iron spire]

mhm

cosmic got buffed a while ago

[crystal yew]

i mean debuffs as in they js do way less damage in the stage to me tbh

[gloomy otter]

the thing for someoneone like yhwahc

even though he does get debuffs someone with monarch on him will prob js ignore this debuffs

and his range is also pretty stupid lets not forget that

[crystal yew]

sure but dont think they is much they can do

if they rework the whole unit mfs js gonna crashout

if they debuff the stage ppl ofc wont be happy

[gloomy otter]

well both are gonna make ppl mad regardlessly but debuffing the stage is a better option to me tbh

[crystal yew]

pretty fair tbh icl

but they needa stop releasing units like these

units that just outright 90% of the games mechanics and removes difficulty

[gloomy otter]

sure i think we got 5 units like these

[crystal yew]

havent played since 6.0 so dont know jack shit

but we got vsjw and yhwach for sure

[gloomy otter]

i also thing kaguya but let me confirm rq

wait u got any idea how ts works like if u had a fire unit on the team would kaguya also get fire buff from portals?

[crystal yew]

im assuming so

but i think its only those 3 which are crazy with 2 easily being accessible

[gloomy otter]

nah we got jin mori to

[crystal yew]

damn wtf so we prac got 4 units that js ignore most of the games mechanics

[gloomy otter]

i would say the main problems are vsjw and yhwach because they js immune to energy drain and etc

[crystal yew]

yh those 2 are a problem

wiat can kaguya be debuffed?

[summer frigate]

so can he solo like aot boss rush

I partially skipped pvp update and skipped aot update and now im suffering seeing how bad those stages are

[gloomy otter]

i think so to

[gloomy otter]

wtf is that i could barely beat this shit cause of those dumbass collosal titans an we got a free auto win card right here?

crazy

[crystal yew]

then kaguya is a problem fr

[summer frigate]

the lebereo raid or whatever, the fucking mobs can drain vsjw "meter" which is never referred to as meter

[crystal yew]

so prac jin mori and kaguya could be used if u had a cleanse unit in the stage?

[gloomy otter]

bruh wtf isnt his mana prac the same thing

[gloomy otter]

yeah defo

[crystal yew]

whats so good about jinmori btw?

[gloomy otter]

he got some passive where he could create clones or sum

not sure much about it but wiht monarch he crazy as shit

[crystal yew]

oh damn

[summer frigate]

900k damage

also his clones with monarch a crazy cheap dps

and they get his buffs for 342 seconds if you delete him

[crystal yew]

900K this mf prac out dps most mfs including vanguards in the game

[summer frigate]

yeah but no nuke

[crystal yew]

so the clones can get stronger crazy shit?

[summer frigate]

nah they are like base 35k dps with monarch

still not bad

and you can summon 3

[gloomy otter]

didnt kaguya do shit like 500k dmg at max?

[crystal yew]

with them being cheap? to this is crazy

105k damage

js from the clones is crazy

[gloomy otter]

his dmg is prob way higher considering his passives to

[crystal yew]

wait whats this mfs passives?

[gloomy otter]

check the wiki cant send it here for some stupid reason

[crystal yew]

remove the https shit rq

[gloomy otter]

animevanguards.fandom.com/wiki/Units/Monkey_King_(Awakened)

[crystal yew]

ty

this is some crazy passives 50% cheaper on clones is mad

[gloomy otter]

yeah icl

[crystal yew]

but +50% damage for every clone is pretty crazy

and im i the only one who thinks portal tiers are useless?

[candid tendon]

they love those premium payouts

making you waste 30 minutes for no reason just to get tier 10

prolly more than that

thats why i just waited for people to get to tier 10 and i play with others to get some of my own

[gloomy otter]

yeah i feel its stuppid shit to

[wanton rampart]

Esp when my teamates are in grade school

[gloomy otter]

why tf would anyone do t5 over t10? time waster

[crystal yew]

dont want to seem like im glazing a4 but atleast there tiers actually kinda matter u would do t6 over a t10 cuz of its difficulty

[wanton rampart]

Their ass at the game also copy of a shitty game mechanic to pad out playtime from slop atds

[gloomy otter]

i mean this aint glazing aa its just the truth

[gloomy otter]

walahi this game seems like its almost designed to squeeze as much play time as possible

[wanton rampart]

Yeah but they were talking about just limiting it to .5 seasonal events and making it fun going forward so I hope they stick with that

In the stage

[crystal yew]

i mean yeah they were reasons to do lower tiers so it didnt feel like a time waster u did t5 if u want fast rewards but lower diff. u did t10 if u wanted slow clears but higher chances for the untis

[gloomy otter]

yeah portals and av js doesent work as effectively icl

[crystal yew]

like u said earlier it think its just the execution

[gloomy otter]

i mean yeah they do know what they want to do but how its done is weird or feels off

[crystal yew]

real

but i see why they keep releasing this broken units

considering they wouldnt be much of a purpose for people to obtain this units

if they didnt compete with older ones

[gloomy otter]

which is thhe problem with how the game is right now

most ppl dont bother getting new units as ur older units will js compete

and besides portalls and mechanics like energy drain etc
they are not much factors that will lead u to use the newer unit that u dont got monarch on

[summer frigate]

this might be the worst boss rush map

20 minutes

[crystal yew]

and u needa do this shit 50 times for eren? we being deadass now?

[sleek charm]

you gotta use the rumbling mechanic

i dont like to

but

[crystal yew]

Final one for today

B U M P

BUMP!

[orchid relic]

Cause ur brute forcing it

Bring an evo eren and zeke and u can beat it in 9 mins with ur brain off ✌️😭

[summer frigate]

Don’t want to evo units I don’t want to use

[orchid relic]

Then stop bitching about 20 min completion

[summer frigate]

I will still thank you sir

Already got my rrs so idc

[orchid relic]

Just play the game mode how it’s intended 💔

[crystal yew]

@gloomy otter why tf did we see? ddd in the trailer?

[icy siren]

probably adding JIJI as a reward for the ddd dungeon

so that it has some sort of purpose

[crystal yew]

ah fuck its coming back?

that shit was lowkey cancer aint playing that bs

[icy siren]

it was only cancer because of the reward distribution

actual mode was well liked actually

and they said they made the mode shorter too

soooooo

[gloomy otter]

shit i was suppossed to know?

like i aint even watched the shit

[crystal yew]

where tf did they say this

[crystal yew]

why?

[gloomy otter]

i was supposed to?

[crystal yew]

yes

[gloomy otter]

like i dont really give a shit abt berserk and the upd is prob gonna be a mecro fest

[icy siren]

its beserk, goblin slayer and dandadan

[crystal yew]

berserk is peak tho

[crystal yew]

holy shit W on the devs tho

but lowkey hope we aint doing this shit 1000 times

[icy siren]

probably a 3% drop chance 75 pity

standard dungeon/raid drop rate

[gloomy otter]

yh dont give a shit abt beserk or goblin slayer maybe dan da dan only if its a reasonable grind

[gloomy otter]

im talking about the anime dawg

i dont like reading shit unless its peak

[crystal yew]

we hope 🙏

also anyone knows who this mf is? havent watched ddd s2

[gloomy otter]

clueless

[icy siren]

Jiji

red haired guy

(Aka evil eye)

[crystal yew]

oh feck mf has powers? yh shits been wild in ddd ik that fs

[gloomy otter]

i mean i cba to watch it on a weekly schedule like to watch it all at once

[icy siren]

seasons been pretty fire

one of the better fights this season even this year

[crystal yew]

isnt evil eye some mf from ovelrord?

[gloomy otter]

dumbass same way we got gojo in food wars

[gloomy otter]

yeah thats a high bar tho

[crystal yew]

what anime fights have we gottent his year?

[crystal yew]

oh sorry almighty lord i must not repeat my actions

[icy siren]

personal opinion

[gloomy otter]

stop this glaze

[gloomy otter]

would u say it competes with sjw vs beru in ur opinion?

[gloomy otter]

wtf do u mean X

[crystal yew]

that shit was lowkey fire but solo levelling is ass

[crystal yew]

thats some weak shit compared to the super cube fight

[icy siren]

lemme rewatch both rq and give my judgement

[sullen onyx]

Didn’t people complain last time they did “ hard “ content ?

[gloomy otter]

havent even heard of that shit

[crystal yew]

u gotta watch it

[gloomy otter]

link?

[crystal yew]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9Ya73BA12U

[lilac vector]

What?

Are you talking about novel sjw?

He’s already boundless

[gloomy otter]

i mean its only when the devs force it on u tbh

[lilac vector]

Beru MfTL

[gloomy otter]

whats the bullshit dont understand this terminolohy

mftl?

[icy siren]

would say SJW vs Beru is better overall

just ignore mushy bro

[gloomy otter]

if thats solo levelling ragnarock i aint give a fuck tbh cuz aint reading that shit

[gloomy otter]

ait safe

[icy siren]

it got dropped or sum

i will say though

the next cour of dandadan is going to be fucking peak

[lilac vector]

Why ignore me?

He’s wrong

[icy siren]

would say its the best arc

[lilac vector]

No way he think sjw is weak

[icy siren]

he talking about fight animation not power scalling you dummy

[gloomy otter]

thank the lord

[icy siren]

comparing Jiji vs okarun and Sjw vs beru in terms of animation

like bro cmon now

[crystal yew]

didnt wind breaker also get dropped or sum shit

[icy siren]

the manga?

wouldint be suprised

[crystal yew]

yh

[gloomy otter]

google exists my brother

[icy siren]

the mangas final arc was shit

and it got like half yearly updates

[crystal yew]

thats some black clover shit half yearly is mad

[icy siren]

half a year per chapter just for it to be mid

hard fall off after the first few arcs

[crystal yew]

and bro is making bands of that shit dawg 😭

[icy siren]

is the manga really that popular?

[crystal yew]

not the manga talking bout the anime ofc

manga they is no sales been disclosed for some shit

[icy siren]

well not suprised

the anime is done pretty well

[gloomy otter]

the animation feels unusuall and off but i do fw it icl

[crystal yew]

suprisingly tbh

[gloomy otter]

but even though i hate to say it i feel sjw vs beru is the best fight

[crystal yew]

it was done by an 19 yo apparently

[crystal yew]

obv jeju island is solo levellings peak

[gloomy otter]

impressive

whats super cube about?

[crystal yew]

idk but its similar to solo levelling or sum shit idk

[gloomy otter]

solo levelling is only ass when it comes to its characters icl

[lilac vector]

It was a bunch of lightning

Couldn’t really see the action

Jiji vs ddd was peak

[gloomy otter]

yh still looks cool to me icl

[crystal yew]

no shit sherlock the whole system is when ur born u cant level ur rank up and sjw is the only mf who could do ts characters will eventually become irrelevant as sjw gets stronger

[gloomy otter]

yup and thats the problem icl

[gloomy otter]

thats some crazy ass stare down icl

[crystal yew]

dayum looks cold asf

cant wait to watch this shit when it finishes airing

its gonna have 12 episodes?

[gloomy otter]

yeah prob

yeah 12 episodes

[icy siren]

hopefully kaiju arc is animated

[crystal yew]

we at episode what rn

[icy siren]

best DD arc by far

[gloomy otter]

like 9 or 8ish

[icy siren]

ok chat we might not get it

[crystal yew]

they is an arc called kaiju?

thought this mf was talking about kaijju no 8

[icy siren]

next iirc

shit is wild and i love it

[crystal yew]

i mean dan da dan is wild alr and the shit i have seen i dont think they can suprise me no more

[gloomy otter]

yeah that shits prob gonna be condensed to a movie

[icy siren]

would say its the most batshit insane the series has gotten so far

[icy siren]

would be sick

[lilac vector]

It’s coming next episode

The kaiju part

[crystal yew]

ball shit insane? thats a high bar even though we talking about dan da dan

[icy siren]

is the season gonna be a 12 episode cour or longer

[gloomy otter]

yeah gotta catch up to ddd once its done fr

[icy siren]

if its only like 3-4 episodes i really don't think all of it can be animated

unless pacing goes out the window

[crystal yew]

wait we also get chainsaw man reze arc or wtv that shit was called?

[icy siren]

gonna be there day 1

[lilac vector]

Oh nah not the full arc

[gloomy otter]

i'd rather they not do it then skip vital moments icl

[gloomy otter]

im gonna be fr with u i forget so much about chainsaw man

like wtf is happening in the reze arc?

[icy siren]

gonna be in the movies day one with the homies

shit is gonna be so peak

[crystal yew]

i aint going to the cinema and paying for those overpriced shit im pirate and watch that shit at home

[icy siren]

russian spy tries to escape with chainsaw boys heart

[gloomy otter]

mfs still go to the cinema this days?

[icy siren]

yes bro yes

i dnc if its overpriced

its a fun time with the boys

[gloomy otter]

hella suprising last time i went was for that avengers shit

[crystal yew]

hell yeah

[icy siren]

went for the mc movie...

[crystal yew]

dawg that was back at 2019

[gloomy otter]

real dawg for that

[gloomy otter]

i dont fucking know the thanos shit

[icy siren]

yes i was one of the chicken jockey losers

im sorry

i couldint help it

atleast i aint throw nothing just got jiggy with it in the middle of the theater

[crystal yew]

yeah this dude has very interesting experiences

[crystal yew]

u know we got end game and infinity way which one?

[gloomy otter]

shit better not happen twice in a row now

[gloomy otter]

idgaf

the one thanos is in

[crystal yew]

his in both u fool

[gloomy otter]

ok?

the one with thor playing fortnite or sum shit

[crystal yew]

oh thats end game lowkey long ass time

[shadow belfry]

Harder stages would be fine but the required amount of clears should be lower if they are harder

[gloomy otter]

days do fly fast asf this days

[shadow belfry]

I doubt most people would like to do a really harder stages 50+ times

[crystal yew]

yeah thats our compromise we need harder stages but lower amount of clears

[candid tendon]

what did bro even send this for 😭

[crystal yew]

dawg any shit happens in suggestions as far as im concerned

[candid tendon]

the balancers said theyre gonna stop with harder content because people dont like them

[crystal yew]

then they dumb asf they should js give a hard an easy option end of day

[candid tendon]

AOT ex was optional but it sucked

[gloomy otter]

walahi why this mfs trynna balance an upd to make it easy and both hard

[shadow belfry]

I didn’t mind it but I disliked the debuffs for it

Having your range and meter drained sucks

[crystal yew]

cuz it was just a fucking high hp boost which isnt a good way that people like to implement difficulty

[gloomy otter]

i mean yeah but its the easiest way imo

[crystal yew]

easiest doesent mean the best dawg

[gloomy otter]

thanks captin obvious i couldnt tell

[crystal yew]

i mean have they even tried tbh to implement difficulty without js boosting hp?

[candid tendon]

"we love making our players farm for meter units for the past 3 updates and make them useless"

[gloomy otter]

land of the gods to me tbh but if u had lancer and a unit immune to energy drain they was no thought process required

[shadow belfry]

Weirdly enough aot ex act scales with more people. You’d think the stage meant to be done with more people would already be scaled for 4 people

[crystal yew]

thats the thing the only stratergy neeed was deciding who to pick before the match and thats it

[candid tendon]

its not very easy to make a tower defense game actually difficult, the game itself doesnt need much actual strategy or brain power

so they just make bs mechanics

[shadow belfry]

Usually stages just end up being annoying more than difficult

[crystal yew]

i mean to me it is just depends on how u wanna acheve the results

[gloomy otter]

annoying is interesting

no stage in this game has annoyed me tbh

its js its repetitiveness

[crystal yew]

mf aint seen astd X stages

[candid tendon]

the only way to make some of the latest stages bearable is having SJW

[gloomy otter]

yeah that shit got me tweaking and actually doing some cost management

[shadow belfry]

And the ex act for aot makes it hard using him

Cause of the lack of meter

[candid tendon]

me requiring 2 monarchs to beat ts is outrageous

[crystal yew]

or js dont grind em tbh i skipped like 4 upds and i could still bea tthe content ilc

[shadow belfry]

I managed to do it with gogeta lfelt alucard and a slow

[gloomy otter]

if u dont got monarch on the unit ur prob not gonna use it unless its hella outdated

[candid tendon]

why do i have to use units that are objectively better than eren to obtain eren

thats the problem

[crystal yew]

yeah thats how i used to play at a point i would go in redeem codes see if i get monarch if not i dont play

[candid tendon]

eren could not do jack shit on this stage if there were no stage buffs

[shadow belfry]

The lack of other viable traits is a problem too

It’s basically monarch or nothing

[crystal yew]

i mean monarch is poorly designed tbh they is no massive trade off for the rewars it gives

[shadow belfry]

The other mythic traits are barely useful outside of dungeons and other specific modes cause you don’t get enough money to truly utilize the extra dps

[crystal yew]

js straight up a dmg boost

[gloomy otter]

how tho

[candid tendon]

if the unit youre grinding for cant beat the stage they are obtained from youre being unfair

is that wrong to say?

[sonic verge]

Is grass green

[candid tendon]

imagine if igris couldnt beat his own stage

imagine if cid couldnt beat his own stage

eren cant beat his own stage

[shadow belfry]

Either a new farm should be added or the other traits should get a sort of buff

Like a cost reduction would be fine

Imagine if ethereal gave like a 10% cost reduction to upgrades

[crystal yew]

simple it literally fucks balancing and destroys variety as they is practically close to 0 reasons to roll monarch of atleast in astd x u get also 1.75 x cost

[candid tendon]

monarch is good because of its cost efficiency thats why you dont need good traits for boss rush or sjw dungeon

[gloomy otter]

no its orange

[shadow belfry]

Yea but it gets to a point where the other traits are only viable in modes like that

A lot of the time you can max 1 maybe 2 characters

[gloomy otter]

for it fucking balancing i debate because i feel its the devs they should make stages balanced for mfs with monarchs and one without

[crystal yew]

i mean thats what their kinda doing tbh

[gloomy otter]

well wish they actually did it for portals

[crystal yew]

wdym

[gloomy otter]

like idk the tiers feel pretty weird i feel higher tiers should be made for mfs with monarchs etc

[crystal yew]

i mean same here would also provie an actual reason to do lower tiers

[gloomy otter]

but obviously they wont

[crystal yew]

i mean ppl are gonna bitch "its making the game p2w"

[gloomy otter]

not really i feel if they give an optioon which reasonable rewards its not

[crystal yew]

yeah same here

but i hope this crappy update aint gonna be one that encourages mecroing

[gloomy otter]

i mean same

any shit past 100 clears i aint playing this shit

[candid tendon]

NO MORE PORTALS

[crystal yew]

i feel 50 is the max but the devs wont

[gloomy otter]

ofcourse why the fuck would pyseph / the other devs do anything

[gloomy otter]

i mean im chill if they dont got us fucking doing 1000 portals or sum shit

[crystal yew]

i mean its their game tbh

[gloomy otter]

like this mfs do got momentum rn but watch they gonna fuck it over

and come back to 20k players

meh matter of time till some game takes over

[wary sun]

SpongeBob td up next

[crystal yew]

talking of games u had of some shit called dokkodo?

[crystal yew]

absolute peak

[candid tendon]

then they can go back to 15k ccu if they keep pushing portals

[gloomy otter]

yeah im in the discord for it wbt it ?

[candid tendon]

theyre not gonna do things that lower their playercount

[crystal yew]

are u good summer was portals and it had 80k players?

so as this upd

[candid tendon]

it had the summer event

[crystal yew]

portals even succeed more

[wary sun]

Ppl got to remember this ain’t a passion project

[candid tendon]

which everyone is AFKIng

[candid tendon]

thats just a straight up lie

[crystal yew]

ok prove me wrong

[wary sun]

Nobody touched portals

[candid tendon]

spring update

thats all i need to say

noboy was excited to grind 133+ hours for kaguya (just to not get her because pity wasnt a thing yet)

[wary sun]

Invincible carried the hype for that upd

No other unit was cool

Just randoms

Plus portals💔

Doomed to failure

[candid tendon]

i didnt even know a single character in that update except for rimuru and kaguya

they just put in random garbage

[wary sun]

Mix match of side characters

Nobody cares about

Even kaguya is a random nobody likes

[crystal yew]

yess 66k players was 100% a flop while aot at 33k double the fucking players

portals do succeed even tho u hate it please dont delude urself

that it doesent succeed

[candid tendon]

the event is objectively better then portals

and do you notice the IMMEDATE DROP

LMAOOO

[wary sun]

We were just saying it had hype

[crystal yew]

yeah aot didnt even crack half the players

[wary sun]

And died immediately

[wary sun]

Because ppl were already mad at the old upd

[crystal yew]

thats literally the case with every av upd u wanna see the graph?

look for urself

[candid tendon]

idek whats that in reference to

where do you grab these btw

[crystal yew]

every peak is an up then it falls cuz it takes a month to update

[crystal yew]

rolimons

[candid tendon]

people saw that it was just more portals and everyone got off

spring update was shit

objectively shit

nothings gonna change my mind on that

[crystal yew]

still did better than aot and thats the point

[candid tendon]

because vanguard hype

[crystal yew]

i dont give a shit my point is portals do succeed not portals are the better upd

[candid tendon]

and then everyone realized "oh im never getting this" and got off

✌️

[crystal yew]

regardless portals did better then the aot upd

[candid tendon]

summer event is better in every way

[candid tendon]

when did i even say spring didnt do better than aot

[crystal yew]

my point is portals do succeed im not trynna go off topic

[candid tendon]

i think theyre both dogshit updates

[candid tendon]

they rlly dont

[crystal yew]

like is their an portal upds that hasnt succeded?

prove it?

[candid tendon]

where did you grab these graphs

[crystal yew]

yeah this is ragebait im done

[crystal yew]

I SAID IT OVER HERE FUCKING IDIOT IM DONE

[lilac vector]

Shut up

[crystal yew]

no?

[lilac vector]

Always accusing people for no reason

[crystal yew]

cuz his wasting my time

[candid tendon]

im literally blind ok 😭

i have to wear glasses

chill out

[crystal yew]

and by any chance how are u involved in this?

[wary sun]

It’s just mushy

[lilac vector]

Stop wasting time

Get to the point

[crystal yew]

i did get to my point

and his trynna go off topic and shit saying summer upd was better in every way etc
when im arguing portal updates succedd in player count

[gloomy otter]

geez i go for a fw seconds we alr got shit going on in the chat

[candid tendon]

the summer event did objectively better

less bullshit more rewarding you can afk for escanor easily

[crystal yew]

not really im js saying portals do succeed in playercount not lke its good update or sum shit

[candid tendon]

and most importantly

higher player count

[wary sun]

That kaguya upd has vanguard hype and still had the worst fall off of ccu we’ve seen in a long time

[candid tendon]

by like twice the amount

[wary sun]

Hitting lows of 18k I think

[gloomy otter]

wtv js move on with ur day

[crystal yew]

well yh i did why else arent i responding dont needa get my ass stressed for no reason

[candid tendon]

few days before the AOT update dropped it was at 20k

spring update was not that good 💔

[wary sun]

It was lower before upd announced

[lilac vector]

AoT peaked at 50k

[gloomy otter]

cuz they was way to many factors like competition etc

[wary sun]

You can look at the graphs and see that the upd did horrible in the long run

[gloomy otter]

im pretty sure if av did the summer update under similar conditions of spring the out come wouldn't change

[candid tendon]

i do not remember this number anywhere

[candid tendon]

if the summer update was the exact same as spring we would be at 15k still

[wary sun]

It peaked at like 44k

[crystal yew]

i mean ofc competition was dropping upds leading players to go to that game. so practically the best way to measeure how successful an upd is is prob at the day or the day after

[wary sun]

And dropped in less than 5 hours to like 20

[wary sun]

all vanguard updates are guaranteed to have hella hype behide it so ofc it would peak

Well

[gloomy otter]

im saying if the update was done under similar conditions as in the environment other td games were upding
summer would have had probably the same result as spring

[candid tendon]

i have no idea what youre saying

[wary sun]

That’s just not true

[wary sun]

Pretty simple

What aren’t you getting ?

[gloomy otter]

its not easy to explain what im trynna say

[crystal yew]

ur trying to say. If the update had been released under the same conditions as when other tower defense games were updating, summer likely would’ve had the same outcome as spring?

they is no point in arguing that cuz we cant experiment it

[gloomy otter]

yeah kind of

[wary sun]

I understand what he’s saying

[gloomy otter]

i mean also true to an extent

[crystal yew]

but they did have similar conditions to an extent like they updated after a not so well received update\

[wary sun]

What upd are you referring to

[crystal yew]

spring

[wary sun]

Oh gg

[crystal yew]

Bump

[wary sun]

Wrap it up

[crystal yew]

nope dont got no shit to do with mah time

[gloomy otter]

i only pull up here when im bored as shit to

[wary sun]

I forgot what this suggestion was about fr

Or what was suggested

But devs 99% aren’t adding it

[crystal yew]

i mean they is no meaningful shit that goes on

devs dont come discuss shit with the players why abc wont come

[gloomy otter]

they rarely add shit tbh from here

[gloomy otter]

yeah those were back in the days when andrevious used to be a dev here long time

[crystal yew]

yeah he working on AA X

or sum shit idk

[gloomy otter]

yeah good shit to know

imma dip and come back when i feel like wasting time

[wary sun]

He was a ass dev

[gloomy otter]

i mean regardless he was prob the only dev that actually interacted with the community

[wary sun]

And made bad choices

For the game

[gloomy otter]

yh im aware of that he prob not getting re hired anyways

[wary sun]

Would you have a shit game with good communication or decent game with bad communication

Can’t call av good

[gloomy otter]

it really depends on what "shit" is but as a player i prefer communication

[wary sun]

Look at those updates that he made

[gloomy otter]

i mean if shit means completely unplayable / a buggy mess hell nah

[wary sun]

And what will communication get you

If the game is hot ass

[gloomy otter]

they werent really bad tbh its just it was getting repetitive

[crystal yew]

better relationship with ur players which can build loyalty

[wary sun]

They were buggy asl and content was low + took WAY longer to drop

[gloomy otter]

assuming if the communication is been taken as feedback to improve the game

[wary sun]

And that helps the game play how?

If the devs are bad at there job

And keep making bad decisions

[gloomy otter]

i mean for the time they tooks sure it wa underwhelming to me tbh

[wary sun]

What will a better relationship with the players do

[wary sun]

.0 updates felt like .5

[crystal yew]

if u have loyal players they are less likely to move on to the comeptition

[wary sun]

And .5 were trash

[wary sun]

That’s untrue

Cuz why did the devs get kicked

Because the ccu dropped to a all time low

Like 5k

Plus aa was coming back

[crystal yew]

they key woards is less likey

[wary sun]

In av case it was the opposite

I do think building trust with the player is good tho

But he was a bad dev

Even if he was more open

[crystal yew]

because the feedback wasnt being taken to improve the game but atleast he was honest so we dont got mfs repeating the same shit in suggestions

[wary sun]

I mean then wheres the “trust”

[gloomy otter]

i mean sure rn it does feel suggestions are more of a place to waste time icl

[wary sun]

He was listening but not doing anything

[wary sun]

I agree

[crystal yew]

not really he would prac deny alot suggestions tbh but u can say that

[crystal yew]

cuz the devs dont really value ppls time taken into creating suggestions to even give them a simple response

[wary sun]

He saw the suggestion for the player base and just didn’t listen

[crystal yew]

i mean well atleast he was honest and had the courtesy to tell us shit wasnt coming. rn it feels like they dont even respect our time thats why i call them pieces of shit

[wary sun]

pyseph was getting mad at ppl suggesting because “they have updates planned out months in advance “ and that’s dumb ngl

[lilac vector]

its not dumb

they have a roadmap for a reason

[wary sun]

Mushy shhh

Nobody falling for ts no more

[crystal yew]

yeah for stage suggestions sure but this main suggestions channel i dont think they should be much of an excuse

[lilac vector]

funny of you to say that when ur wrong

multiple suggestions has gotten added in the past

pyseph does listen

its just not his job to read

so stop acting like he DOES need to read

bc he dont need to

[wary sun]

I’m ngl

[gloomy otter]

but what about the ones that dont get added?
they shadow them like peices of shit and have them shouting to the void like nothing is going on

[wary sun]

I’m not reading all of that mushy

[lilac vector]

They're probably shit

Or don't fit with AV

[wary sun]

But why even add that place if you just going to ignore them

Seems like they just don’t care about ppls time

[crystal yew]

fr we asked for pity for like 3 month or sum shit and the devs didnt give any sort of fucking response

[lilac vector]

goth skin got added

[gloomy otter]

well atleast give them the courtesy to know it aint coming to the game

[lilac vector]

and it was in #1255566253683380348

same with jin mori

he got suggested in there

and got added

[wary sun]

W cherry pick

A couple out of how many?

[wary sun]

Only added pity because of ccu

Being low

[gloomy otter]

where tf was jin mori's suggestion?

[wary sun]

If they keep 40 k I promise you they wouldn’t have added it

[lilac vector]

are you fr bru

[crystal yew]

i mean yeah they only listen when the game is failing

[gloomy otter]

i joined this server 2 days ago cant see shit

[gloomy otter]

oh damn

let me look for that shit rq

[wary sun]

Hi

[crystal yew]

yeah i aint counting this bullshit if u reference any of the things said in this suggestion to his actual passives none of them are similar

they couldnt even take the element he reccommended or even give any sort of credit

so i find it hard to believe they have even seen this suggestion

[lilac vector]

why would they give credit?

[gloomy otter]

only thing thats similar is 20% of enemy defense. he mentioned there other then 30% of enemy defense

[crystal yew]

so that Players feel heard when their creativity is recognized? It motivates more people to suggest ideas knowing the devs will acknowledge them for their work

and also shows they read the suggestion like that jin mori shit i cant gurantee any dev read it

[icy siren]

let me shamelessly plug

#1407920242604113970

[gloomy otter]

ur cool

who tf is kasane what series?

[icy siren]

Teto

is a vocaloid

like Miku

[gloomy otter]

oh cool

[lilac vector]

But what if he isnt the OG

wONT BE fair to the og

[icy siren]

devs have never acknowledged that channel lol

besides like 1 post

[crystal yew]

Lets be realistic for a unit suggestion like jin mori ur saying that someone did the exact same thing before him?

[icy siren]

the goth mikasa

[icy siren]

they did not iirc

[lilac vector]

stealing ideas is a thing so yes

i mean you also benefit from stealing them too

so

[icy siren]

theres only 3 jin mori suggestion brotato

1 of them is a skin suggestion

[lilac vector]

some may have been deleted

deleting suggestions is a thing

[crystal yew]

i mean this devs are baiters. they want something to sleep to on their beads

[crystal yew]

im talking about a unit suggestion obviously. But ofcourse sure that can happen also

[icy siren]

ive been chatting in stage suggestions since the start of the game i have never seen other jin mori suggestions besides these 2

plus no one actually deletes stage suggestions lol

[lilac vector]

you have no proof of this

[gloomy otter]

which the devs dont fucking do and would rather stay in silence then tell the players wtf is going on

[crystal yew]

wdym proof?

this is 1970's alt account?

[lilac vector]

of stage suggestions not being deleted?

[icy siren]

no there is no definitive proof, its just a habit because theres no actual reason to delete a stage suggestion lol

[lilac vector]

then why are you on his side?

developers do read stage suggestions

[icy siren]

and suprise suprise theres only 1 jin mori suggestion that has over 100 upvotes

oh 100%

do they add them no

i can't blame them

[lilac vector]

they've added suggestions

isnt that good enough?

[icy siren]

half of the shit in that channel is slop

[crystal yew]

rarely any suggestions prob like below double digit can count ion my fingers

[icy siren]

not from stage but regular suggestions yes

[lilac vector]

yeah its not the developers fault you have people creating sloppy suggestions

[icy siren]

just saying there ARE some good ideas in stage suggestions

weve just seen none of it been considered tho

[gloomy otter]

gold shop (unoriginal from a4)
Portals (Also unoriginal)
Bounties
pity
is every major feature i know (they are also some qol like visibile vanguard pity which was js comon sense)

[crystal yew]

the main problem is they is no form of acknowledgement if a suggestion has been even read or declined or approved (besides it coming ot the game)

[gloomy otter]

and yeah ppl fall into the delusion that the dev hasnt seen their shit
and then it becomes a loop of ppl suggesting the same shit

[gloomy otter]

pretty much like asking a chef who doesent like reccomendations
to acknowledge them

[crystal yew]

ah screw this shit imma do sth else

btw devs if ur reading ts rn fuck you

[gloomy otter]

😮‍💨 not that deep bro

[wary sun]

1970 mogs u

[meager fjord]

holy this suggestion reeks

so much chatting and drama and arguing

[arctic kiln]

Is this war?

Is this the holy war that the bibl talk about?

Or is this ragebait that worked?

What is the world?

With out war

or ragebait?

https://tenor.com/view/war-never-changes-war-fallout-soldier-run-gif-16498934

and ragebait never changes

Its just endless war and ragebait

[meager fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[arctic kiln]

No this is what war and ragebait does'

LOOK AROUND!

WHAT DO U SEE?

THERES ONLY DEATH AND RAGEBAIT HERE

A WASTLAND

[radiant rock]

😂

[wicked oak]

you realize they tried to do this with ex stages and everyone complained about it? seems like the devs can never win with this community.

[ripe osprey]

ex stage levels of hp scaling + cid simon says 🙌 absolute cinema

[summer frigate]

Harder what

ThIS suggestion is the reason this game died like 2 times

[gloomy otter]

i mean yeah because it was implemented poorly and more of just a huge fucking hp boost

they main point of this post tbh is just reducing the number of stages needed to obtain a unit
and the fact the only coop stage that feels like co op is cids stage

i mean mfs even cheering about it having high ccu ts aint getting added

[crystal yew]

i mean to be fair if the game is succedding they have no reason to listne

[hardy orchid]

The game doing way better than it has in the past implies that the majority is in favour of the direction its currently headed in

So yes, theyre likely not gonna listen.

[gloomy otter]

i mean sure if thats the case why not shutdown suggestions and only bring it back when the game is failing?

[crystal yew]

obviously it wont be received nicely and ppl will think the devs dont want suggestions

[gloomy otter]

you know what fuck this instead of giving this paid actors attention imma js play wuwa

[crystal yew]

this game fee;s like a lab if one apprach doesnt work they move on to the next experiment

[hardy orchid]

This doesnt really apply to your suggestion though lol

Why would they listen to a suggestion about changing the current game forumula when this one has resulted in the game performing the best it has in 6 months

[gloomy otter]

oh yeah i forgot the main motive for this game is profit rather
than making an actual fun playable experience

[crystal yew]

the thing with any game is u should focus on making it fun and money just comes in naturally

unless ur a monopoly like ea or 2k sports

[gloomy otter]

the rhing is this will never be a monopoly

they take a month to push out mediocre updates at best but since its rblx it works

[hardy orchid]

Like 99.99% of games, yeah

100% if takking by roblox standards

[crystal yew]

i mean games like fortnite valorant rocket league / gacha games focus on an actually decent experience

[candid tendon]

because those games have to make the games good to get more money

alright idk why i got timed out for this

[gloomy otter]

not really a suprising majority of roblox players are pretty old

so u can some what argue u need to make a good game on roblox

[crystal yew]

not really

how do games like gag succeed?

[gloomy otter]

heavily botted?

its not rocket science

[meager fjord]

insane work

[icy siren]

They don’t understand the vision…

[gloomy otter]

older players/ people figured out they could make money off doing this shit

[static zealot]

because they love seeing idiots suggest stuff like escanor buffs or auto upgrade

[gloomy otter]

then their doing a pretty good job at pissing onf the community

[static zealot]

who doesn't love that
no way people act like suggestions is a serious channel

[crystal yew]

so how does making a good game apply here to rblx then?

[gloomy otter]

i mean sure but shit gets boring quick then

[static zealot]

99% of the suggestions are joke ones or just bad

[gloomy otter]

lets be honest if someone were to make a gag clone or a gpo clone which is more likely to succeedd

[crystal yew]

true because they is no sort of iq test taken to be illegible for suggestions

[crystal yew]

gpo clone prob

[gloomy otter]

easily because they like 500 games like grow a garden

and gpo clones we got none

[static zealot]

iq test will ruin suggestions
did you read the shit people say for no reason
is funny bro

[crystal yew]

i mean sure its a good place for laughs and gigs but if mfs really do want to improve the game an iq test is needed to create

[gloomy otter]

so thats why i say in roblox u do have to make a good game to succeed
this low quality slop only succeed due to luck

which is very rare btw

[haughty sequoia]

instead of making it a skin just make it a unit 😭 hate seeing potential units to be a skin

[crystal yew]

ok fair points

but how comes shit like gpo and good games dont get as much as gag

[gloomy otter]

very simple questions very simple answers

how long do u think it would take to actually progress a gpo acocunt compared to gag?

[wide harness]

gag is really customizable

[gloomy otter]

gpo is taking astronamally longer
and ppl dont really got that time with also gag being easily afkable comaped to gpo

also device requirements

[static zealot]

mfs fight for 1 hour over a single pair of pants
that shit was funny to see

[crystal yew]

wdym cuztomizable

[wide harness]

as in

you can make your own garden

everyone can see

ppl like games that do that

things you can make

and you can show off

[crystal yew]

oh so basically more freedom of creativity

[static zealot]

holy peak

[crystal yew]

yeah and mfs are serious about it to

[crystal yew]

so rell seas wont succeed?

[wide harness]

• with like rarity and shit on gag, it's like a double show off

[gloomy otter]

over a long period of time probably not

upds gonna take long as shit prob

[wide harness]

that's why ppl like atd games too

[gloomy otter]

unless they got it premade

[wide harness]

not as much but you can show off really rare units

[static zealot]

rell seas will never release

is a big goverment lie

[crystal yew]

oh yh ig

[gloomy otter]

like 3 months after rell seas release its prob gonna average 40kish players

[gloomy otter]

a government conspiracy theory

[wide harness]

if av is singleplayer, i doubt it'd get as much players

[crystal yew]

i mean it is tho

all stages in this game could be solo'd by urself

[lilac vector]

TDS is practically single player

[wide harness]

the gameplay is singleplayer

[lilac vector]

So is TDX

They all popular

[wide harness]

but it has multiplayer elements

[sleek charm]

td is a famous genre bc im here

[lilac vector]

You don’t play TDS do you

[gloomy otter]

for obvious reasons how many mfs gonna have fun if the whole game was forced to be multiplayer?

[lilac vector]

Stop saying shit you don’t know about

[wide harness]

I know what im talking about

i know what ppl want

[lilac vector]

Go ask in tds discord

[crystal yew]

lets be honest no mf played tds or tdx first td game is either aa or ad

[lilac vector]

I’ll await your answer

[lilac vector]

Mine was tb and I got the badges to prove it

[wide harness]

how many ppl would have fun getting rare ass units if it isnt multiplayer?

[lilac vector]

Rapid response team

[wide harness]

it's the aspect of it

[crystal yew]

i mean i believe you who would lie over something like that it aint worth it

and wtf is tb?

[gloomy otter]

i mean sure people wont really have a reason to alt the game etc
so av would prob have a way lower ccu

[lilac vector]

Tower battles

[crystal yew]

havent heard of that shit since 2020

[wide harness]

if you give ppl more ability to show off, more ppl would play

[lilac vector]

Fun fact the original atd was utd and not astd

[wide harness]

utd?

[crystal yew]

i mean sure but thats not going to be high majority of the players who like to flex

[wide harness]

insane

[sleek charm]

university of texas

holy peak

[wide harness]

ppl like to flex luck and ppl like to flex how good they are

if that shit is ingame

ppl would eat it up

[crystal yew]

yeah im saying majority if the players wont be doing that like a very small %

[sleek charm]

grow a vsjw

[wide harness]

painful

[sleek charm]

rainbow vsjw

[crystal yew]

but players would want to achieve a lifestyle like that in game to give u credit

[wide harness]

why did you play av

why do ppl play gag

[crystal yew]

i wanted a challenging experience which is close to non existent here

[wide harness]

why do ppl play the fuckin steal a brainrot

[crystal yew]

because older ppl can bot the game and be profitable

[wide harness]

why specifically av

a lot of games do that

[wide harness]

and how are they profitting if steal a brainrot is only bots

[crystal yew]

cuz it was a popular td mfs were hyping up and wanted to see where the hype is coming from

[wide harness]

yeah but that's an oversimplification