and im asking it should have more??
#Needed changes for Rifts
cedar tulip
lilac stratus
Br is there for new people to have an easy time getting essences
mighty smelt
Also the units are good and the fammilars are good and the rewards are also good
Why would you ever wanna buff that
lilac stratus
and im asking it should have more??
Its good enough as it is
Its not great
But its not bad
Its balanced
cedar tulip
Also the units are good and the fammilars are good and the rewards are also good
theres no point in grinding rifts after you get the units and the foo familiar
cedar tulip
Its good enough as it is
its not
lilac stratus
theres no point in grinding rifts after you get the units and the foo familiar
Then dont grind them bro
Do you grind boss rush after you get rrs?
mighty smelt
theres no point in grinding rifts after you get the units and the foo familiar
Rrs??
cedar tulip
Then dont grind them bro
i want to. thats why i made this suggestion
lilac stratus
You dont right?
cedar tulip
i dont get what your point is
lilac stratus
Tell me
cedar tulip
5 rrs every 3 hours
at best btw
lilac stratus
Do you grind br after you get everything in the shop
cedar tulip
i cant even get everything in the rift shop because of how inconvenient it is to even enter one
😭
lilac stratus
Do you grind challenges after you reach the cap
cedar tulip
for the average person you can only do rifts twice a day
lilac stratus
You dont grind things if you alr got what they are meant to give bro thats it
mighty smelt
5 rrs every 3 hours
Jus do other things while you wait....
lilac stratus
You dont do sjw dungeons when you get sjw evo
You dont do portals when you get the units you need
cedar tulip
Jus do other things while you wait....
and thats my problem? why do i have to wait so long?
lilac stratus
Its the same thing
mighty smelt
and thats my problem? why do i have to wait so long?
I do agree
lilac stratus
and thats my problem? why do i have to wait so long?
Temp rifts exist
mighty smelt
Maybe lower it to 2 hours
lilac stratus
Alting exist
cedar tulip
no. 1 hour
lilac stratus
If you cant wait all of us can so yeah gl with that
mighty smelt
Every other hour is a good amount of time
lilac stratus
Theres alr an immeasurable amount of resources in the game
mighty smelt
NO ONE COMPLAINED
'they gave everyone free resources no one complained" ofc nobody did 😭
lilac stratus
You get 500 rrs a week without rift shop
cedar tulip
'they gave everyone free resources no one complained" ofc nobody did 😭
then whats the issue
lilac stratus
How we gon complain when br gives inf essences basically
lilac stratus
not possible?
It is
cedar tulip
??
mighty smelt
then whats the issue
The issue is you would get too many resources that you would farm rifts for like a week and wouldn't have to do them again for a month
cedar tulip
The issue is you would get too many resources that you would farm rifts for like...
again whats the issue
people 🥭 for gems and then they dont need them for a month, oh the horror 😭
mighty smelt
again whats the issue
You just said you wanted to play more rifts
cedar tulip
You just said you wanted to play more rifts
yup.
lilac stratus
If you wanna play more rifts make a timer for it
Its not that hard
Or go alting with temp rifts
mighty smelt
people 🥭 for gems and then they dont need them for a month, oh the horror 😭
The difference is gems don't give you 50 rrs and a broken fammilar every week 😭
jagged kestrel
the familiars are bad except for foo
disrespecting kon🥀
mighty smelt
again whats the issue
The issue is it's not a good decision from a developer pov since they want you to play the game more
Not just log on once a week and buy the shop out
cedar tulip
id be playing a lot more if rifts appeared every hour instead of 3 so idk what youre talking about
mighty smelt
the familiars are bad except for foo
Kon is really good
mighty smelt
id be playing a lot more if rifts appeared every hour instead of 3 so idk what y...
You would most wont
lilac stratus
Lemme see you get through dungeons without kon
real cloak
id be playing a lot more if rifts appeared every hour instead of 3 so idk what y...
They trying to make you touch grass
mighty smelt
It's the trait tourna goat
cedar tulip
You would most wont
are you a mind reader?
mighty smelt
😲
cedar tulip
They trying to make you touch grass
they love premium payouts
mighty smelt
are you a mind reader?
Are you?
Every other hour seems a lot better than every hour
lilac stratus
Bro every hour people wont bother waiting for rifts in every public server like its a great event
They just gonna treat it like br
Thats why rifts are balanced the way they are
Because you need to wait and can you other stuff while waiting
mighty smelt
Bro every hour people wont bother waiting for rifts in every public server like ...
People would get burnt out from rifts
cedar tulip
People would get burnt out from rifts
would rather get burnt out then have them be useless
mighty smelt
would rather get burnt out then have them be useless
A good middle ground is every other hour
😭
cedar tulip
no its not
mighty smelt
It is
mighty smelt
hes rage baiting
Has to be
sturdy juniper
doing rifts just to come back to do a challenge again
and then legend or story
plus odyssey gems grind
mighty smelt
Like is there any reason to do rifts anymore if you can get 100 shards every hour
cedar tulip
bump
royal sedge
It's an event for a reason
It's like owning a shop and making a promoting where u sell smth that costs $5 for $3 for 2 days
If u made it permanent
U lose money
barren grove
U lose money
I don’t get this analog, how would the devs be losing out on money?
royal sedge
I don’t get this analog, how would the devs be losing out on money?
Ur slow
tame inlet
cedar tulip
U lose money
????
barren grove
Ur slow
I’m just not seeing how the devs lose out on anything by making rifts cd shorter
elfin latch
imo they should just lower the timer
the reason it was ok to set it to 3hr was because of the tasks to lower the timer
those were removed
lol
royal sedge
????
Ts is why we need thjs
Aye what
Why can't I send the link to another suggestion
verbal night
Why can't I send the link to another suggestion
you need to use forward
cedar tulip
Why can't I send the link to another suggestion
you were gonna use the AV iq test weren’t you
even though you still said the devs don’t understand the point of their own gamemode
barren grove
Why can't I send the link to another suggestion
You might need that Iq test ngl
zenith veldt
Human's greed..
cedar tulip
TD games do not actually respect peoples time, vanguards being a good example
but thats a topic for another time 🙂
echo moss
tds are not respecting our time man
why are they not giving out 10k reroll codes every other day
if they respected our time, they would add 5x already
cedar tulip
asking for 6-8 rrs for completing a harder stage than boss rush that appears every 3 hours is not comparable to asking for 10k rerolls
SHOCKER, i know
echo moss
nothing is stopping you from playing other games and do a 10 minute rift every 3 hours
cedar tulip
lots do actually but i dont think you actually read anything i ever said
echo moss
nothing you say makes the slightest bit of sense
sharp echo
why are they not giving out 10k reroll codes every other day
horrid analogy horrible sarcasm
you miss the point entirely
tame inlet
TD games do not actually respect peoples time, vanguards being a good example
And thats literally the point
if you play a TD game
you have time in your hands to waste
the arguement of "but some of us have work or school" means you either arent fully committed to it or you still have 5-6 hours of free time daily to play the game
that or your a TD addict but once again you need to go real low to be playing those on roblox
eternal quartz
the arguement of "but some of us have work or school" means you either arent ful...
mellow nacelle
you have time in your hands to waste
yuh but like if you have time to waste on a game doesnt mean the game should just completely waste ur time? thats why stuff like qol exist, rifts are cool and all but 3 hours is too much 100%, especially considering you can already pre farm for vowstones before new units get added
eternal quartz
whos wasting 5-6 hours on a td everyday
unless youre like unemployed or below the age of 15
royal sedge
you were gonna use the AV iq test weren’t you
Even u know ur wrong
cedar tulip
Even u know ur wrong
if i thought i was wrong i wouldnt have made this suggestion
sturdy juniper
yuh but like if you have time to waste on a game doesnt mean the game should jus...
If this the case, then why are you so against this suggestion?
cedar tulip
im sorry i think rifts should be easier to grind for everyone
cedar tulip
Let's agree to disagree
mellow nacelle
If this the case, then why are you so against this suggestion?
wait im not against it lol, i just said why i think lowering rift cd would be great
1 hour would be goated especially cuz everyone would know that when banner resets rift spawns too
sturdy juniper
wait im not against it lol, i just said why i think lowering rift cd would be gr...
Then they’ll make us grind 2x the amount
So really does it make a difference?
mellow nacelle
Then they’ll make us grind 2x the amount
there would be no reason for them to do that imo
sturdy juniper
there would be no reason for them to do that imo
So if they add 2x speed right now, they won’t do that?
Tf are you saying
mellow nacelle
not like rifts are what keeps people constantly playing, they pretty much are just there, making them take less to grind would not impact the playercount
oak jewel
Not tryna read allat but this suggestion looks not good 👍
cedar tulip
Then they’ll make us grind 2x the amount
at release they were hoping rifts would be 1 hour and 30 minutes to come??
sturdy juniper
Not tryna read allat but this suggestion looks not good 👍
Because it isn’t
mellow nacelle
So if they add 2x speed right now, they won’t do that?
2x speed got nothing to do with rifts spawning more conveniently
cedar tulip
So if they add 2x speed right now, they won’t do that?
they literally cant
cedar tulip
Not tryna read allat but this suggestion looks not good 👍
why is 1 hour rifts a bad idea
sturdy juniper
at release they were hoping rifts would be 1 hour and 30 minutes to come??
I won’t argue with you since you’re an idiot especially since you were not here during that time
cedar tulip
why is boss rush more easily accessible but gives the same award
like i dont understand the issue
sturdy juniper
2x speed got nothing to do with rifts spawning more conveniently
I’m using your logic
mellow nacelle
they are constantly making grind less tedious, from increasing chances to adding stage pities to increasing chances even more and lowering pity
sturdy juniper
You think that they’ll Lower the rifts cd without doing some changes to the shop
As in requiring more currency to buy this in exchange lower the rift cd
mellow nacelle
they are constantly making grind less tedious, from increasing chances to adding...
so making rifts more convenient to grind isnt a bad thing
cedar tulip
I won’t argue with you since you’re an idiot especially since you were not here...
i wasnt here when the bleach update dropped..? yes i was? what are you on about?
actual schizo
mellow nacelle
You think that they’ll Lower the rifts cd without doing some changes to the shop
yeah, they did a lot of changes to make grind less tedious so why would it be any different for rifts?
cedar tulip
You think that they’ll Lower the rifts cd without doing some changes to the shop
that has nothing to do with my suggestion because thats not what im asking for
youre genuinely yapping about a nonexistent issue with my suggestion
sturdy juniper
yeah, they did a lot of changes to make grind less tedious so why would it be an...
Because it’s 50 rerolls? Why would they let us grind the currency of 50 rerolls in one day?
cedar tulip
Because it’s 50 rerolls? Why would they let us grind the currency of 50 rerolls ...
you can already do that with boss rush?
mellow nacelle
I’m using your logic
well your hypothetical isn't really a good comparison just because 2x would affect the game MUCH more than lowering rift cd
cedar tulip
actual yappatron
primal mirage
if u cant get mvp in rift u could just say that💔 instead of complaining ab rift vro
sturdy juniper
well your hypothetical isn't really a good comparison just because 2x would affe...
Are you uh being serious?
cedar tulip
if u cant get mvp in rift u could just say that💔 instead of complaining ab rift...
not everyone can get mvp
thats just reality
sturdy juniper
Did you just say that..
mellow nacelle
Because it’s 50 rerolls? Why would they let us grind the currency of 50 rerolls ...
lets not act like the rerolls u get from rifts are our biggest rr gain atm lol, its just extra if you really grind the game
mellow nacelle
Are you uh being serious?
dead serious, idk whats so hard to grasp
cedar tulip
dead serious, idk whats so hard to grasp
his brain is mush
anime vanguardians love making grinds more tedious for no reason whatsoever
sturdy juniper
lets not act like the rerolls u get from rifts are our biggest rr gain atm lol, ...
so why do we need to change the rifts system if there isnt nothing wrong with the system in the first place?
mellow nacelle
if u cant get mvp in rift u could just say that💔 instead of complaining ab rift...
well only 1 in 3 people can get mvp so logically speaking its a majority
mellow nacelle
so why do we need to change the rifts system if there isnt nothing wrong with th...
there quite literally is smt wrong with having an event you have to wait 3 hours for
cedar tulip
so why do we need to change the rifts system if there isnt nothing wrong with th...
there is problems with rifts. why are boss rushes easier to grind but i get the same reward?
mellow nacelle
like theres no reason to have such a long wait time when rift units release once in a blue moon, people could have already pre grinded stuff even like this so why just not make it LESS TEDIOUS
cedar tulip
how is your brain genuinely this fried, you havent been listening at all lol
sturdy juniper
there quite literally is smt wrong with having an event you have to wait 3 hours...
i have to say you're wrong on this part
cedar tulip
i have to say you're wrong on this part
devs didnt think it was wrong to have a 1 hour timer
are the devs wrong?
mellow nacelle
anime vanguardians love making grinds more tedious for no reason whatsoever
sometimes im shocked when looking through suggestions and see people act like they know better when just regurgitating what devs said and insult the op (not the case rn but ive seen it)
mellow nacelle
i have to say you're wrong on this part
read what i said bellow that
sturdy juniper
like theres no reason to have such a long wait time when rift units release once...
Well, first? The shop wasn't meant to reset weekly, at least not for the rerolls part, but they did that because they wanted the shop to feel much more rewarding for the time you've spent on rifts.
and second? The community asked the developers to change rifts cd to 3d, so they listened to that and now they need to switch it back to 1h? for what reason?
cedar tulip
whats that have to do with anything
mellow nacelle
Well, first? The shop wasn't meant to reset weekly, at least not for the rerolls...
exactly, they also made rift units a thing so it wasnt just a one time thing for yhwach, similar to boss rush, kinda logical to make the shop reset too
cedar tulip
and second? The community asked the developers to change rifts cd to 3d, so they...
nobody actually wanted 3 hours they just wanted consistency
sturdy juniper
exactly, they also made rift units a thing so it wasnt just a one time thing for...
this is wrong lol
cedar tulip
time gated events for shit rewards is my main issue
sturdy juniper
then how do you explain shops?
mellow nacelle
and second? The community asked the developers to change rifts cd to 3d, so they...
yeah rifts were inconsistent af cuz of their system on release, you are acting like people would complain if rifts were 1h instead of 3
mellow nacelle
then how do you explain shops?
well there are shops that are just one and done and there are shops that reset after some time
cedar tulip
no one actually gave a reasonable argument as to why 1 hour rifts are a bad thing
not a single soul complained about the rift event
sturdy juniper
yeah rifts were inconsistent af cuz of their system on release, you are acting l...
people would because it'd be bad for the schelude when you combine all of the things you need to farm in total including rifts when the cd is 1h AND then imagine if they decided to rise the total amount of currency you need to grind in total to buy the things in shop imagine vowstone being 1k now because of rifts being 1h? i don't think that's a good thing with the future game modes coming in soon, etc
cedar tulip
people get mad over me saying rifts arent that rewarding but thats just objectively true, boss rushes are not time gated, they dont need a group of people, theyre far easier, but i get the exact same amount of rerolls
cedar tulip
people would because it'd be bad for the schelude when you combine all of the th...
3 HOURS IS A WORSE SCHEDULE
WDYM
mellow nacelle
people would because it'd be bad for the schelude when you combine all of the th...
sturdy juniper
So you must be foolish to think they'll just casually let us get 100x shards per hour when that's just 4 hours to get the most broken unit in the game right now, same goes for the best support in the game right now (talking about the other rift)
mellow nacelle
So you must be foolish to think they'll just casually let us get 100x shards per...
not foolish man, devs are aware that lowering rift cd and decreasing rewards would have people complaining, they dont want that, they got out of a crisis after consecutive bad updates, hourly rifts arent something unreasonable to ask for
also whats wrong with really meta units not needing you to trade your soul to obtain them?
sturdy juniper
also whats wrong with really meta units not needing you to trade your soul to ob...
the fact they are not limited?
mellow nacelle
we already have vanguard units if u want to grind something that bad
sturdy juniper
we already have vanguard units if u want to grind something that bad
vanguards are not game breaking level
and you can use afk chamber
the best unit is not even a vanguard either
mellow nacelle
the fact they are not limited?
well yeah, no point in gatekeeping them really
sturdy juniper
well yeah, no point in gatekeeping them really
how are they gatekeeping?
mellow nacelle
vanguards are not game breaking level
they quite literally are in certain aspects
sturdy juniper
i'm sure we'll get some rotation system
sturdy juniper
they quite literally are in certain aspects
and yet none of them are the best unit
mellow nacelle
and you can use afk chamber
even that is a huge commitment just because of the amount of time it takes
sturdy juniper
even that is a huge commitment just because of the amount of time it takes
and this makes you right, because?
mellow nacelle
how are they gatekeeping?
well not quite literally gatekeeping them but theres no reason to have such an unreasonably long time to wait for a rift to spawn
sturdy juniper
should this be the case if they plan to add 3x speed in the future? Just give us 3x speed without increasing the amount of work you need to put in now due to 3x speed being a thing?
mellow nacelle
and yet none of them are the best unit
you are glazing yhwach too much man
sturdy juniper
you are glazing yhwach too much man
It's not glazing when its true
Wiki has him #1, if you ask question helpers in #「❓」questions who is the best unit?
Most of them will say Yhwach
mellow nacelle
and this makes you right, because?
idk wym by this
sturdy juniper
Because their primary source is Wiki
mellow nacelle
It's not glazing when its true
it is true, he is insane but i would rarely use him over vanguard units just because they are much more convenient to use, i have him, kahuya and vsjw monarch and rarely use him for grinds
sturdy juniper
idk wym by this
why do you feel like you're in the right when you don't know the developer's motive? i still don't understand why the developers need to abide by our laws, as in listening to us and doing everything we tell them to do, and we're happy like that with this community. You can't please everybody
mellow nacelle
Most of them will say Yhwach
yes he has insane damage output, insane range and full aoe but you have to look at the bigger picture, utility is the most important thing in this game
sturdy juniper
yes he has insane damage output, insane range and full aoe but you have to look ...
yhwach still wins
who is the better unit yhwach or escanor?
yhwach still win due to having more uses
(overall)
mellow nacelle
why do you feel like you're in the right when you don't know the developer's mot...
well i dont believe devs should do everything just as the community says but lets not act like roblox atd games arent dependant on having a big community that is pleased with the state of the game, this isnt just a passion project or smt like that, to a certain extent they have to listen or their game will be on a certain downfall
mellow nacelle
who is the better unit yhwach or escanor?
id much rather place escanor down and win 80% of stages than have to set up yhwach for half of a stage
its just preference but you have to realize most people play for conveniency, when they can ofc, if there is a really hard stage well u just gotta adapt
for example aot units are crazy paired together but would you use them over vsjw if they get the same result? nah, its much more convenient to clear a stage the easiest way possible for you
cedar tulip
well i dont believe devs should do everything just as the community says but let...
yeah vanguards went to 15k ccu because of how badly they were treating the community
they made content too hard, kaguya was impossible to get, etc
median dome
whos wasting 5-6 hours on a td everyday
Me when freiren dropped in worldlines
cedar tulip
frieren was so bad 💔
cedar tulip
it was a disappointment to me to 😔
rocky schooner
the arguement of "but some of us have work or school" means you either arent ful...
Idk if this is sarcasm or not 💔
median dome
Tbh it's only 1 gamemode that's time gated
2
royal sedge
And ywach lwk busted for how ez he is
median dome
and apparently sbr raids too
royal sedge
16 rr
royal sedge
and apparently sbr raids too
Act 5
earnest grove
agree with almost everything besides the hourly rift event permanently and the reroll limit buff
it should be 2 hours
not 3
easier to keep track of but still would make seasonal based hourly rifts feel special
and it doesnt need a reroll buff at all
its currently the 3rd best way in the game to get rerolls
the only thing in front of it are half hourlies and boss bounties
that buff to the cap would make it the 2nd best, just above boss bounties
cedar tulip
it should be 2 hours
hell no 😭
earnest grove
1 hour is just too short
2 hours is fine
the main problems you stated were just the fact that people couldnt schedule it properly
2 hours solves that problem
while also leaving room for seasonal events to buff it
cedar tulip
that buff to the cap would make it the 2nd best, just above boss bounties
it should be the BEST, there’s no reason that it should give the same rewards as boss rush when it’s time gated and needs a team of people with meta characters
that doesn’t make any sense at all
earnest grove
it should be the BEST, there’s no reason that it should give the same rewards as...
dude its literally impossible for it to be the best
cedar tulip
while also leaving room for seasonal events to buff it
it shouldn’t need a seasonal buff to make it actually grindable
earnest grove
unless you want the cap to be 300 per week 💔
and it gives more rewards than boss rush
50 > 40
and it doesnt need a team of meta characters...
someone beat it without mythic traits at all a few updates ago
and we have even stronger units nowadays
cedar tulip
with meta characters
earnest grove
with meta characters
which we have better forms of now
and it was no vanguards too
or yhwach
was legit just virgil esdeath todo and luce im fairly sure
cedar tulip
if you’re talking about esdeath and vergil neither of those are obtainable
and rifts became harder since then
earnest grove
if you’re talking about esdeath and vergil neither of those are obtainable
but we have better units than them now
earnest grove
and rifts became harder since then
??
astolfo rift is easier than yhwach one
by a lot
someone could bring just quetzalcoatl and newsman and farms with no mythic traits and prob beat the rifts im ngl
cedar tulip
but we have better units than them now
rlly doesn’t matter because that’s just proving my point that it needs hard meta character but a new player can go into boss rush with just vegeta and get the same reward and even corruption shards etc
earnest grove
rlly doesn’t matter because that’s just proving my point that it needs hard meta...
the only boss rush that vegeta solos is igros...
and thats as old as the game itself
earnest grove
because it happens once a month?
thats 40 rrs you're getting
vegeta is not beating any of the other boss events
cedar tulip
40 rrs u can get in one night vs 50 thats time gated
boss rush is less tedious and gives corruption shards
chrome dagger
whats wrong with being time gated
cedar tulip
so i’d say that makes it better
earnest grove
40 rrs u can get in one night vs 50 thats time gated
50 thats time gated but you still have a week
u need to do like 12 rifts in a week period
thats completely reasonable
sure, they could be 2 hours instead of 3
but 1 is insane
cedar tulip
12 rifts isn’t easy to do
earnest grove
????
cedar tulip
but 1 is insane
it’s not
earnest grove
temporal rift exists
exactly
dude u dont even need friends for it
just say ur hosting a temp rift in the rift channel
people will flock to you
cedar tulip
i’ll ask again why is rifts harder but gives less of a reward than boss rush
and harder in general not just the stage itself
chrome dagger
i’ll ask again why is rifts harder but gives less of a reward than boss rush
bcs its supposed to be a DIFFERENT hard game mode for a meta unit
earnest grove
i’ll ask again why is rifts harder but gives less of a reward than boss rush
rifts are harder and give more of a reward?
chrome dagger
and
earnest grove
50 is more than 40
chrome dagger
dont compare again
earnest grove
plus both of the unit drops are good
plus u have familiars and other things in the rift shop
of which the familiars are good
well
foo and gon are
cedar tulip
50 is more than 40
it drops shards and i can get them in one night while for rifts i have to wait for several days
earnest grove
it drops shards and i can get them in one night while for rifts i have to wait f...
you have to wait several days yet you have a week
cedar tulip
it’s easily a better source for rrs just because of how more convenient it is
earnest grove
whats the problem
earnest grove
it’s easily a better source for rrs just because of how more convenient it is
ok?
its two different things?
you dont HAVE to do rifts
if u dont want to
cedar tulip
1 hour would make that problem way less of an issue
earnest grove
1 day of half hourly challenges on 2x weekend is 2 less rrs than the entire rift shop's reset weekly
cedar tulip
getting more rewards would help balance it out with boss rush
cedar tulip
you dont HAVE to do rifts
LMAO
earnest grove
gang i never done my rift
i do them on very rare occasions
cedar tulip
I WANT TO DO RIFTS BUT THE REWARDS AND TIME GATING IS TEDIOUS 💀
earnest grove
almost half of the weekly rr limit is from half hourly challenges
chrome dagger
I WANT TO DO RIFTS BUT THE REWARDS AND TIME GATING IS TEDIOUS 💀
then u wake up at that time and do it
cedar tulip
“just don’t play the mode” when im trying to get some use out of it
chrome dagger
cant spend 10 mins to do a rift?
earnest grove
then u wake up at that time and do it
fr
earnest grove
"because one is infinitely repeatable while the other is timegated" blah blah blah
whatever dude
cedar tulip
💀💀💀
earnest grove
you never explained how it is
i did before
rift has much more things than boss rush
more stat chips, more super stat chips, more rrs, 2 good familiars, good units, more essence stones
cedar tulip
1 good familiar, good units, but the everything else is ass
earnest grove
1 good familiar, good units, but the everything else is ass
2*
foo and gon are both good
cedar tulip
screw gon
earnest grove
fr
unless u have jin mori ig
but thats super specific
gon is better than birb on escanor for some cases
chrome dagger
if u dont have gon for resillence u are cooked basically
earnest grove
if u dont have gon for resillence u are cooked basically
unless u have meta monarchs
but thats unrealistic for most ppl
late fable
vouch
everyone here that disagrees is unemployed, a bum, or js straight up has no life
barren grove
everyone here that disagrees is unemployed, a bum, or js straight up has no life
Facts
lilac stratus
Temp rift is actually per hour
barren grove
Temp rift is actually per hour
No it isn’t
lilac stratus
It is
barren grove
It isn’t
lilac stratus
I do it per hour
barren grove
Temp rifts can only be done every 3 hours or it will say “ you have already done this rift”
lilac stratus
Why would i ask people who dont play the game?
lilac stratus
Question helpers dont know shit about how av works
barren grove
Peak bait
lilac stratus
Its legit
noble mirage
ppl complaining about rr obtainment 😭
4 rr for 7 minutes is like one of the best rates there is
barren grove
4 rr for 7 minutes is like one of the best rates there is
Do the math
noble mirage
Do the math
???
barren grove
3 hours for 4 rrs is what
barren grove
Are you fucking slow
noble mirage
are you sitting in lobby for 3 hours for rift
u can do other stuff
are u a bot or something
barren grove
Does that change the cd yes or no
noble mirage
what does the cd have to do with anything
barren grove
The rate
noble mirage
you spend 7 minutes to get ATLEAST 3 rr
barren grove
How many times have you been dropped on the head?
barren grove
THAT DOESNT MATTER
noble mirage
?????
barren grove
you still have to come back every 3 hours
barren grove
So it worst than 30 minutes challenges if you don’t get mvp
noble mirage
no?
both spend like 7 minutes
30 min is 1 rr 2 rr on weekend
rift you get 3-10 based on mvp and such
u act like the 3 hours is dedicated to rift
and people host temps
or u can just host a temp
thats like saying weekly is the worst rr obtainment
barren grove
30 min is 1 rr 2 rr on weekend
You get 3-5 for a rift
noble mirage
because you have to wait a WHOLE WEEK
noble mirage
You get 3-5 for a rift
3-10 mvp
barren grove
I said the whole not mvp
barren grove
the fuck does that mean
You can’t read ig
barren grove
So it worst than 30 minutes challenges if you don’t get mvp
What do those last few words say
noble mirage
if you dont get mvp no
its still better
7 minutes atleast 3 rr
if you dont mvpo
barren grove
if you dont get mvp no
OMG YOU CAB READ
barren grove
7 minutes atleast 3 rr
If you do each 30 minutes challenges you get 6 in 3 hours and if you do rifts you can only get 5 (without mvp)
noble mirage
If you do each 30 minutes challenges you get 6 in 3 hours and if you do rifts yo...
btw u have to be there and keep joining every 30 mins and do the 7 minute challenge
which btw you can do while waiting for rift
barren grove
Ok..
cedar tulip
4 rr for 7 minutes is like one of the best rates there is
why is it the same as boss rush when it’s harder and time gated
noble mirage
why is it the same as boss rush when it’s harder and time gated
cause the rift shop was never intended to reset
barren grove
The 30 minute challenge still give you more rrs for the same time you need to wait for the rift
cedar tulip
cause the rift shop was never intended to reset
that has nothing to do with my question
noble mirage
The 30 minute challenge still give you more rrs for the same time you need to wa...
and rift gives you more rrs for less time u actually need to play
cedar tulip
wdym same
i can get 4-5 rrs in one boss rush completion
but it’s not time gated and it’s easier
barren grove
and rift gives you more rrs for less time u actually need to play
Still doesn’t remove that time in between rifts
noble mirage
i can get 4-5 rrs in one boss rush completion
so whats the question
cedar tulip
so whats the question
i’m showing you why it needs a buff
why am i getting the same rewards for doing an easier and not time gated stage
noble mirage
i’m showing you why it needs a buff
im telling you it doesnt bc you can just host temps whenever you want and rift shop is NEVER intended to reset
and btw you can do BOTH
cedar tulip
hosting temps doesn’t change that the rewards are shit
noble mirage
rift shop reset is just a bonus
cedar tulip
at that point your not actually engaging with my argument
noble mirage
3 rrs fir 7 mins is pretty good if u ask me
cedar tulip
that’s pretty bad
barren grove
because you have to wait a WHOLE WEEK
Horrible analogy
calm isle
3 rrs fir 7 mins is pretty good if u ask me
😂
noble mirage
Horrible analogy
both time gated events????
noble mirage
at that point your not actually engaging with my argument
ur point is rifts need a buff bc of the cd im saying it doesnt bc you can do OTHER STUFF
noble mirage
every 3h btw
the 3 hours you can literally be doing anything
barren grove
im telling you it doesnt bc you can just host temps whenever you want and rift s...
You still need to wait for that 3 hour seed btw you can’t just spam temps whenever, also you need to speed shards to buy them.
cedar tulip
ur point is rifts need a buff bc of the cd im saying it doesnt bc you can do OTH...
and the other stuff gives the same rewards but they’re easier
what do you not understand
noble mirage
You still need to wait for that 3 hour seed btw you can’t just spam temps whenev...
people host for leeches all the time
barren grove
people host for leeches all the time
Ok and
calm isle
the 3 hours you can literally be doing anything
its like saying the half hour challenges should be 1h because u can do more stuff
barren grove
Remove the shards thing then
calm isle
or the 1 week challenges could take 1 month because u can do more stuff
noble mirage
what do you not understand
i dont understand why u guys care about a cd you dont need to do anything while it goes down and the fact is rift shop reset is a add on it was never meant as a rr obtainment
calm isle
i dont understand why u guys care about a cd you dont need to do anything while ...
they shouldnt be replayable?
after u got the unit
cedar tulip
just because it wasn’t the intention doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be changed
why are you mad that i’m asking for more rewards
noble mirage
its like saying the half hour challenges should be 1h because u can do more stuf...
????? they are like that for balancing
cedar tulip
this is a beneficial thing for everyone
noble mirage
because ur saying it NEEDS a buff it doesnt NEED you want a buff
cedar tulip
boss rushes are easier and not time gated but give the SAME reward
barren grove
both time gated events????
Doesn’t work in our conversation because I’m using the same time frame for both game modes.
cedar tulip
boss rushes even give familiar rerolls now
calm isle
i dont understand why u guys care about a cd you dont need to do anything while ...
btw
rifts should be replayable
noble mirage
CONGRATS WHAT CAN U DO AFTER YOU CLEAR BOSS RUSH SHOP GUESS WHAT RIFTSSS ARE AVAILABLE
cedar tulip
bro is just not engaging with the argument
calm isle
there will be no point to play rifts if u already got the unit
noble mirage
Doesn’t work in our conversation because I’m using the same time frame for both ...
congrats we can just compare for a week time instead of 3 hours
barren grove
????? they are like that for balancing
The devs even said they made it bad on purposes
calm isle
they should shorten the cd
noble mirage
The devs even said they made it bad on purposes
bc it should be bad its not meant as a rr obtainment
the whole purpose of rift was unit obtainment
barren grove
bc it should be bad its not meant as a rr obtainment
WHAT
calm isle
the whole purpose of rift was unit obtainment
thats the point of rr obtainment
it should be replayable
not a wait 3h for 3rr
noble mirage
thats the point of rr obtainment
rift was not intended to BE rr obtainment
noble mirage
yea its a bonus add on for those who want to
cedar tulip
anime vanguardians when i suggest more rewards for our time and effort spent:
calm isle
isnt a bonus tho
cedar tulip
like i don’t get you people
calm isle
rift should be replayable
cedar tulip
don’t we all love monarch
calm isle
after u got the unit
cedar tulip
what’s wrong with more rerolls for monarch
calm isle
no wonder why u dont wanna to people to have more rrs
noble mirage
no ur demanding changes that dont need changes/would be unbalanced
noble mirage
2 rr per 7 minutes TIME SPENT PLAYING is the avg rate of rr obtainment in av
barren grove
no ur demanding changes that dont need changes/would be unbalanced
Getting 50 rrs a little faster is SOOOO unbalanced
calm isle
no ur demanding changes that dont need changes/would be unbalanced
imagine having a 1500 pity for monarch
noble mirage
to what to shorten the cd?
cedar tulip
rifts are time gated, they’re harder, but boss rushes give the same amount of rerolls and even familiar rerolls
that’s the issue
noble mirage
is 3h for 3rr
3 hours u spend doing WHATEVER u want
noble mirage
rifts are time gated, they’re harder, but boss rushes **give the same amount of ...
FOR THE SIMPLE REASON ITS NOT INTENDED FOR RR OBTAINMENT
barren grove
3 hours u spend doing WHATEVER u want
You still have to wait that time even if that mean doing other shit
cedar tulip
FOR THE SIMPLE REASON ITS NOT INTENDED FOR RR OBTAINMENT
and what’s the issue for asking for more
sturdy juniper
no wonder why u dont wanna to people to have more rrs
What the fuck are you saying
cedar tulip
lmao
sturdy juniper
Why should they let us get 100
Rerolls in one day
noble mirage
You still have to wait that time even if that mean doing other shit
congrats u can do any of the other gamemodes you wanted to or like hw shower J O B
barren grove
It’s mushy don’t mind him
barren grove
congrats u can do any of the other gamemodes you wanted to or like hw shower J O...
You still only getting maximum of 5 rrs per 3 hours
cedar tulip
It’s mushy don’t mind him
his brain is mush 😔
barren grove
Without mvp
noble mirage
You still only getting maximum of 5 rrs per 3 hours
7 minutes spent actually playing the game
sturdy juniper
no ones saying that
That’s what you’re asking for
noble mirage
the other 2 hours and 53 minutes doing ANYTHING u want
sturdy juniper
Smartass
cedar tulip
7 minutes spent actually playing the game
boss rush gives the same amount but it’s easier and not time gated
calm isle
That’s what you’re asking for
no?
sturdy juniper
no?
You’re agreeing with the suggestion
Change rifts cd to 1h
100 rerolls in one day
noble mirage
boss rush gives the same amount but it’s easier and not time gated
ONCE AGAIN BOSS RUSH IS INTENDED TO BE A RR OBTAINMENT METHOD NOT RIFTS
sturdy juniper
Farming rifts for only 3h
calm isle
no
calm isle
thats like
u could get 80 rr in 2 bossrush
u still gotta wait
1 week
for the other rift/bossrush
noble mirage
btw rifts being replayble would make it seem like a chore like als
cedar tulip
ONCE AGAIN BOSS RUSH IS INTENDED TO BE A RR OBTAINMENT METHOD NOT RIFTS
rifts is intended as a rr obtain method otherwise they wouldn’t be there, you’re yapping
calm isle
use your little ash brain
noble mirage
rifts is intended as a rr obtain method otherwise they wouldn’t be there, you’re...
rift shop was never meant to reset
barren grove
100 rerolls in one day
Mushy wtf are you saying
cedar tulip
rift shop was never meant to reset
why can the shop reset?
genuinely what are you even saying
sturdy juniper
Mushy wtf are you saying
It’s what @calm isle said
calm isle
I don’t really get your message
no shit u dont getting it
sturdy juniper
And he’s genuinely slow asf
calm isle
like
cedar tulip
and it doesn’t justify anything
noble mirage
why can the shop reset?
cause many players thought it would so the devs added it
calm isle
u will not get 100 in 1 day
cedar tulip
cause many players thought it would so the devs added it
and that’s a good change
noble mirage
“it wasn’t meant to be that way” yet it is
BECAUSE THE DEVS LITERALLY STATED THAT
calm isle
100 rerolls in one day
.
sturdy juniper
u can get 50 rr farming 1 rift
Yeah but you’re asking them to change rifts cd to 1h meaning you could get the rifts unit in just 5 hours
cedar tulip
what else would be a good change is making it more rewarding
sturdy juniper
That’s not balanced
barren grove
It’s what <@814664190336827392> said
You the king of straw man’s
calm isle
it is balanced tho
cedar tulip
BECAUSE THE DEVS LITERALLY STATED THAT
lots of things were made with different intentions but they improved overtime
calm isle
u are assuming anyone could get mvp
noble mirage
You are slow
they want als all over again
calm isle
u can get 40rr in bossrush
cedar tulip
they want als all over again
i’m not asking for 500 rrs every 8 hours
sturdy juniper
As you only need two accounts
cedar tulip
you’re dumb
calm isle
that makes it unbalanced?
calm isle
Which is easy
now
sturdy juniper
Change rifts cd to 1h buff the amount of rerolls in the shop
calm isle
u gotta get a team that can solo rifts
noble mirage
i’m not asking for 500 rrs every 8 hours
if they made it so you could just spam rifts it would feel more like a chore
calm isle
and get 2 alts to lvl 30
cedar tulip
It’s what you wrote
i don’t think you can read
calm isle
to join rifts
noble mirage
instead you plan to do rifts
barren grove
@noble mirage just ignore him he’s baiting
cedar tulip
if they made it so you could just spam rifts it would feel more like a chore
i said 1 hour cooldown moron
calm isle
did u see how stupid is that??
cedar tulip
instead you plan to do rifts
notice how i don’t have to do that with boss rush ✌️
noble mirage
u gotta get a team that can solo rifts
btw can be done untraited
cedar tulip
just to get the same shit
sturdy juniper
u gotta get a team that can solo rifts
aot units cans olo
can solo
are you slow
sturdy juniper
and get 2 alts to lvl 30
this is easy
it only takes 5h
to get two alts to level 30
and its worth it
noble mirage
just to get the same shit
congrats i dont even play boss rush i join a host and leech for 2 hours and then im done
barren grove
AD might have left us but we haven’t left AD
calm isle
ymir
cedar tulip
congrats i dont even play boss rush i join a host and leech for 2 hours and then...
you’re lame as hell
what are those monarchs for
calm isle
and no one getting eren from the act 3
sturdy juniper
not like bp units
noble mirage
what are those monarchs for
r u dumb boss rush is untraited
cedar tulip
i know?? 💀💀
calm isle
u still need monarch to get eren
sturdy juniper
lol
calm isle
tf u mean
calm isle
no ones getting it from act 3
noble mirage
so what would monarchs do in boss rush
sturdy juniper
no ones getting it from act 3
a update 4.0 unit
calm isle
talking about getting eren
barren grove
Mushy can you tell me how to rage bait better?
calm isle
a update 4.0 unit
alucard and a unob battle pass btw
sturdy juniper
alucard and a unob battle pass btw
u dont need al
noble mirage
Mushy can you tell me how to rage bait better?
talk to bots that want to play als and have a brain
sturdy juniper
ichigo can
cleanse himself
alucard was there fro bleed
use bean if u need to 😂
barren grove
talk to bots that want to play als and have a brain
I don’t want advice for a lvl 5 rage baiter
I need the master himself
barren grove
Maybe I gotta hit up fbi
cedar tulip
low iq specimens
noble mirage
pov u dont understand how boring the game would be if u could just spam everything
barren grove
pov u dont understand how boring the game would be if u could just spam everythi...
1 hour cd is spamming
cedar tulip
you leech
sturdy juniper
mushy is a troll
not me saying rifts shop should have 200 rerolls in total
barren grove
You’re braindead i
barren grove
not me saying rifts shop should have 200 rerolls in total
Should have 1.5k
We need a monarch token
noble mirage
1 hour cd is spamming
congrats u can finish rift shop in a day now
and the game would die
barren grove
congrats u can finish rift shop in a day now
The game would die from us getting 50 rrs a bit faster
Hmmm
sturdy juniper
The game would die from us getting 50 rrs a bit faster
its bad for the economy so yes it will die
barren grove
Mai how many times were you dropped on the head as a baby
barren grove
its bad for the economy so yes it will die
Pve game btw
sturdy juniper
WHAT ECONOMY
so developers giving us 2000 rerolls code wont hurt the game?
cedar tulip
not a single soul would complain about more rrs except you weirdos
barren grove
Still has no economy
noble mirage
WHAT ECONOMY
the reason why we dont have everyone walking around with 100 monarchs like als
sturdy juniper
not a single soul would complain about more rrs except you weirdos
like I said why do you feel like you need more rerolls?
are you broke?
barren grove
the reason why we dont have everyone walking around with 100 monarchs like als
Ppl in ALs don’t even have 100 glitches
cedar tulip
so developers giving us 2000 rerolls code wont hurt the game?
75 rerolls = 2000
are we deadass
noble mirage
Ppl in ALs don’t even have 100 glitches
.....
noble mirage
1 weeks als i have 3 glitches
barren grove
And
cedar tulip
like I said why do you feel like you need more rerolls?
we all love monarch
sturdy juniper
Ppl in ALs don’t even have 100 glitches
people does
barren grove
Try and get 100
sturdy juniper
i can show proof
noble mirage
its pretty easy to get glitch but guess what its a chore know why you sit there and spam gamemodes for hours
barren grove
🙏
sturdy juniper
75 rerolls = 2000
you said having more rerolls won't hurt the economy so again, it's fine for the developers to give us a code giving you 2k rerolls right?
barren grove
its pretty easy to get glitch but guess what its a chore know why you sit there ...
Does that take away from my point?
No
cedar tulip
you said having more rerolls won't hurt the economy so again, it's fine for the ...
i said nothing about 2000
barren grove
Most of the player base don’t have 100
cedar tulip
you’re just strawmanning me
sturdy juniper
i said nothing about 2000
you said you want free rerolls
are you slow in the head
like??
barren grove
i said nothing about 2000
Why are you falling for this
barren grove
you said you want free rerolls
I for one want a monarch token
barren grove
"we all love monarch"
Meet fallacy man
cedar tulip
Meet fallacy man
strawman merchant
barren grove
@noble mirage if you keep this up you might just become one of the greats up there with mushy
noble mirage
<@338762615058726916> if you keep this up you might just become one of the grea...
u might just be another one of the noobs in questions xDDD
cedar tulip
xd in 2025
barren grove
u might just be another one of the noobs in questions xDDD
You use Xd in 2025
Nothing you say matters
Sub human
cedar tulip
You use Xd in 2025
great minds think alike
barren grove
🥹
cedar tulip
🤨
rocky schooner
Sneaky poll
cedar tulip
ill be honest i voted no
forced co-op, buggy and inconsistent, you were only there for the unit
its better now but i think it could be still be improved upon
jagged kestrel
buggy and inconsistent?
cedar tulip
do you remember the global tasks
thats what i mean
stage itself wasnt buggy as far as i can remember
cedar tulip
for the stage itself i dont like that luce was a necessity
i feel like she was made for it
jagged kestrel
eh medea worked fine
i used her for a while cuz i couldnt be bothered to farm bp levels
and if you felt insane enough you could just run lancer as dps
sturdy juniper
for the stage itself i dont like that luce was a necessity
escanor can solo him without luce
just say ur lazy
cedar tulip
im talking abt when it released gang ✌️
jagged kestrel
i like how half the time i look in suggestions someone just insults someone after not reading the full conversation😭
cedar tulip
and hes completely wrong too, i solo'd the rift several times already 😭
rocky schooner
forced co-op, buggy and inconsistent, you were only there for the unit
I lowk liked but i understand your point, plus in that time you only had 2 units to counter the inmunity and another to bypass but it wasnt that helpful
tepid glacier
Rerolls
balmy lynx
forced co-op, buggy and inconsistent, you were only there for the unit
outside of the bugs, it was refreshing, the unit was interesting and i liked the forced co op aspect cuz the stage was actually hard
earnest grove
Rerolls
i mean even then, those are kinda rough to get
3 hour wait for only 10 rrs assuming u get max amount of currency AND mvp
minimum 15 hours of wait time assuming u get mvp every time and max amount of currency
not to mention they disappear in only like 10 minutes (if people dont use them that is, which is very unlikely) and the temp ones are almost as much as the non-mvp rewards entirely
tepid glacier
3 hour wait for only 10 rrs assuming u get max amount of currency AND mvp
mvp is easy, there area lot of shit players
earnest grove
mvp is easy, there area lot of shit players
true, but its still unrealistic to get mvp every run
along with getting max roll of currency every run
assuming u only get mvp 2/3 the time and get the avg number of currency every run its over 24 hours of wait time
which is kinda absurd
most players just dont do it
i know more ppl who dont than ppl who do
tepid glacier
assuming u only get mvp 2/3 the time and get the avg number of currency every ru...
I mean bro
I do 2 rifts a day sometimes
I temp at 7:45
And just do global with leeches
it’s over 100 shards a day
for
idk
20 mins
U don’t need to get on every 3 hours
just be smart with it
earnest grove
I do 2 rifts a day sometimes
thats more than most
if they actually tracked it, i'd say most people dont do more than 3 rifts a week
unless a new rift releases
genuinely not worth doing rifts when u can just afk half hourly challenges and get 5x the rrs that rifts give a week
tepid glacier
thats more than most
no dude I do 2 rifts in the span of 20 mins
earnest grove
yes
you do more rifts than most people
by a long shot
i dont get what part you're disagreeing with here
i didnt say it took you 3 hours to do rifts i just said "thats more than most"
tepid glacier
i didnt say it took you 3 hours to do rifts i just said "thats more than most"
then people are just stupid
genuinely just a user issue
earnest grove
its just not worth it is all
cedar tulip
bump
late fable
everyone here that disagrees is unemployed, a bum, or js straight up has no life
taps the sign
grim hatch
lowk got a point i miss rifts every time
but i do get mvp almost everytime so its not 4rrs
sturdy juniper
lowk got a point i miss rifts every time
if they change cd to 1h
they will just make us put in 2x the work
from 500 > new amount for vowtone
same thing for rerolls
grim hatch
ye lowk thats a good start