New Escanor DOT: Sunburn

[midnight sparrow]

Sunburn ticks bring down shields. Escanors main passive makes it so if you remove all other units from your lineup, he can solo. But there is no point of this if some of the most important things in the game involve shields, which is his greatest weakness. (nvm just realized how unbalanced this is.)

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[severe bison]

People still doesnt understand what balance factor means

[midnight sparrow]

I tried clicking on balance factor and it didn't work smh

[severe bison]

Huh?

[midnight sparrow]

I tried making it a balancing suggestion and it wouldn't work

[severe bison]

Do u know whats balance factor?

[midnight sparrow]

reword that rq ion understand

[modest finch]

He means

Escanor needs a weakness to be balanced

[severe bison]

Balance factor is a thing that balances a unit or anything else. If it is overpowered in other things, balance factor is the one thing that this unit struggles with

[modest finch]

Otherwise you wouldnt even need any other unit if He could solo everything

[severe bison]

Escanor is similar to Gojo. When he was released he was OP but one thing that balanced him were shields

[midnight sparrow]

alr got it

[modest finch]

[midnight sparrow]

its very different tho

[midnight sparrow]

you see, escanors main passive makes it so hes useful in any gamemode, but you can't use any other units

[severe bison]

OP/Broken units that struggles with shields. I think it is the same

[midnight sparrow]

this means you can't rely on other units for shields

[midnight sparrow]

I have gojo monarch, and I used other units to remove shields

[severe bison]

U can use max escanor anywhere where are NOT shields which is most of the stages. More stages in AV doesnt have shields. Only sand village, edge of heaven (and leg. stage) and some bosses

[midnight sparrow]

and portals

[severe bison]

But gojo didnt place for free and didnt upgrade himself and didnt had That crazy damage

[severe bison]

portals and tournaments are diff category

[modest finch]

Toji is a shield break

Unit

[severe bison]

Thats why Kaguya is still better than Escanor in my opinion.

[midnight sparrow]

at the same time he isn't immune to stun like gojo

[severe bison]

If the enemy leaves his range, he cleanses from stuns and debuffs

Now in this game, there are more debuffs than stuns and gojo isnt immune to debuffs

[north umbra]

so whats the point in removing escanor only weakness

[severe bison]

it wont happen

[midnight sparrow]

ye nvm I had his passive all wrong

[severe bison]

devs know what they are doing

they know how to balance

[north umbra]

ik

[severe bison]

thats why this game doesnt have insane powercreep as other tds

[north umbra]

but why people keep the eye on it

[midnight sparrow]

Jin Mori does 180k dps total btw

[severe bison]

like ASTDx. That game have INSANE powercreep

[north umbra]

like escanor isnt sub meta bc of it, his dmg and passives/abilities still fire

[severe bison]

yeah? I know

[midnight sparrow]

the powercreep in this game wasn't necessary to be this large

[north umbra]

even more than it with unit categories

[midnight sparrow]

they jumped from 300k damage to 1m

[north umbra]

jin mori can reach 400k i believe

[viscid kindle]

More bro

[midnight sparrow]

mines reaches 550k without category

[north umbra]

they said this wont be a frequent thing, game was way too passive based so they got to poeercreep

[severe bison]

There is no powercreep. To compare in ASTD x u get a unit from latest upd and next upd that unit is out of meta. In this game is still one of the best units Aizen and Yhwach that is 5-6 months old

[north umbra]

550k dps?

[midnight sparrow]

oh you meant he could reach 400k dps? nah its just 550k without clones included

[north umbra]

im using aizen and yhwach monarch since bleach update

[midnight sparrow]

mvp thief

[north umbra]

and they are still top tier units, how do you powercreep aizen if not making a unit similar + stronger than him?

[severe bison]

Jin mori has crazy DPS but he is not immune to debuffs and stun and he is quite expensive to max out

[midnight sparrow]

he really isn't too expensive to max out. his clones barely cost anything

[viscid kindle]

He atleast holy tho

And upg cost can be reduced by ymir

[severe bison]

about 200k w clones I think

[midnight sparrow]

about 175k

[midnight sparrow]

when you consider the fact he doesn't have multiple placements, its rlly not a lot

[severe bison]

Me too. One of my most favorite units

[severe bison]

But u dont have his max potential

[severe bison]

Thats still more than max escanor

[north umbra]

you can upgrade clone 2 and 3 and skip clone 1 if you want to hold money

[midnight sparrow]

true

[north umbra]

i mean, Jin mori got the biggest dps in game, but Escanor is better as a unit

[severe bison]

But still, he is not immune to debuffs. He is pure DPS

[midnight sparrow]

Its fine tbh. Just use supports and hes fine

[severe bison]

thats another units in bar

[midnight sparrow]

also, since he has clones it doesn't matter nearly as much

[severe bison]

He has crazy dps but his balance factor is 0 immunity to things

[severe bison]

?

[severe bison]

even his clones can get debuffed

[midnight sparrow]

if Im correct, just because the main unit gets stunned, doesn't mean all of them get debuffed at the same time

[north umbra]

kaguya only weakness is that she isnt Unknown element, but if you got a Vsjw/Sokora/Smith john in your team ...

[midnight sparrow]

thats what I was thinking abt. when you include that shes broken

[severe bison]

U will almost everytime have vsjw or cid cuz they are one of the most OP units

[midnight sparrow]

yeah, is cid limited or no?

[north umbra]

no

[severe bison]

They count different unit

[severe bison]

permanent

[midnight sparrow]

alr

[north umbra]

Also curse element is boosted

30% more damage agaisnt bosses

[severe bison]

yeah

[midnight sparrow]

jjk needs a pt2 upd

[north umbra]

ye but its not getting one since DMCA is here

[midnight sparrow]

true which is why they cancelled the sukuna upd

[severe bison]

Kaguya is overall best unit in the game. Multihit, teleports, buffer, support, Very good dps, can get any element ( immune to debuffs), OP nuke

[north umbra]

ye

map wide and strong nuke

[midnight sparrow]

true

[severe bison]

sukuna upd counts as pt2

[north umbra]

no it doesnt

[midnight sparrow]

it really doesn't, that was just the second part of the exact same update

[north umbra]

3 new units and boss rush isnt a complete update

only 1 from jjk (sukuna)

[severe bison]

it is small upd

tbh I dont care about jjk

I want black clover upd much more

[north umbra]

ye

black clover hxh

[midnight sparrow]

preach

[midnight sparrow]

hxh would be so fire

[north umbra]

there are so many animes to av cook

berserk is fire tho

i really wanna see other units but Guts and griffith

[severe bison]

One Piece, Black Clover, HxH, Naruto

this would be peak

[north umbra]

One piece most likely not happening since dev team hates op + dmca risk

[midnight sparrow]

speaking of griffith, on the top layer of the lobby whos that one npc who talks about dreams?

[modest finch]

They said slight chance tho

[north umbra]

its griffith

[modest finch]

Giorno

[midnight sparrow]

I thought they only hated naruto

[modest finch]

Martin Luther king

[midnight sparrow]

why did they randomly add griffith bro...

[north umbra]

as ik naruto update is basically confirmed due to their decision to put out kaguya so they have space for madara being the main unit

[modest finch]

Cuz the next upd is berserk silly

[midnight sparrow]

oh I forgot 😭

[north umbra]

prob next weekend update

[midnight sparrow]

they also added katakuri, but it was worldlines

Ichigo had so much potential to be the next vanguard unit, but they decided his evo should be horn of salvation 😔

[north umbra]

ye they got 0 space now for a vanguard evo

but ichigo of th MC would be the best one to get a vanguard evo

[midnight sparrow]

they do if they decide to rework it and make his evo true instead

[north umbra]

also i think we are getting many vanguard in a short time span

i do not hope we get a vanguard anytime soon by now

[midnight sparrow]

yh we getting too many vanguards

[midnight sparrow]

they need to focus less on limited vanguards and more on evolution vanguards

[north umbra]

halloween is comming

prob next vanguard is there

[midnight sparrow]

yh bro, can't wait for haruka rin vanguard 🤪 \

[viscid kindle]

Als got all op characters plus g5 luffy bro

[north umbra]

Different games

I think yk that

Even If av is doing a One piece update

They will have to remodel characters like katakuri

[heavy igloo]

ANYTHING to remove escanors only downside

gtfo

[wind iris]

Intense burn is right there 💔

[midnight sparrow]

ANYTHING to not read the end of my message

gtfo

[heavy igloo]

bro edited it to say how unbalanced it is 💔

[midnight sparrow]

is that a problem?

😭

[heavy igloo]

you literally contradicted your own point in the message and acknowledged it

whats the point of this fucking suggestion then

[midnight sparrow]

when I made the suggestion I didn't think abt how unbalanced it was

[midnight sparrow]

fr finding any reason to argue

[heavy igloo]

lets up the level requirement for suggestions

[midnight sparrow]

I joined the dc when the upd was demon slayer btw

[midnight sparrow]

I js simply don't talk that often

[north schooner]

I feel like that suits yorrichi from demon slayer better

[midnight sparrow]

valid, but in what world will they add him :/

[heavy igloo]

vanguard

hopefully

[north schooner]

Who knows but he was in the poll

[midnight sparrow]

they might, demon slayer needs a new upd

[heavy igloo]

or koku would be better

yoriicis only screentime is flashbacks

[north schooner]

Koko and yorrichi update

[midnight sparrow]

yh, but tbh no game has ever added Muzan as the most OP unit in a demon slayer upd

its always koku, or yori

[heavy igloo]

because theyre cooler if we being real

koku would easily be the coolest with his bda

[midnight sparrow]

yeah but atleast add muzan 😭

[heavy igloo]

ye

[midnight sparrow]

WOOHOOO 20 X'S

THIS GOTTA BE A WORLD RECORD

[solemn monolith]

its not