The issues of being WAY to new player friendly

[unkempt atlas]

allat thing cuz kauya is too fucking broken was the funny thing

i can't name a gamemode that kaguya isnt good

[swift warren]

At least they shoul make the grind for escanor a little longer, kaguya imo is ballanced u need good units to hit the pity or spent a lot of time in afk chamber, but escanor is just funny u csn be lvl 10 and have him like wth

[unkempt atlas]

i havent hit pity anyways

[scarlet cargo]

They should continue with this upd's pattern, because literally everyone benefits from it.

[swift warren]

This inf mode is bullshit, its giving too much currency for a time u are playing, they shoul at least scall it so longer u play, more currecy every 10 waves u get

[unkempt atlas]

why you compare us who play 2 hours everyday with the most op pc on the earth

[scarlet cargo]

Never seen a man mad about the game respecting the player's time

[swift warren]

Bro i got escanor on Phone

[scarlet cargo]

List 1 downside having the vanguard being accessible to everyone has

Besides the sorrow of the idiots who can no longer sit in #trading all day and scam people as easily

On the other hand it benefits the devs because it helps the update perform better, it helps the players because the unit isnt cancer to get.

[pliant wyvern]

Think of the trades for the people who have been macroing the event for the past 2 weeks straight
What will they do without the trade value they didn't work for

[naive cradle]

the game wont revolve around trades 😭

[scarlet cargo]

To compensate for this av should add a local cd timestop unit that requires 4 0.5% drops to get and is obtainable for 3 weeks.

[naive cradle]

and if what theyre saying is true familiars will be more worth then vanguards

i dont see the problem

[scarlet cargo]

Nobody sees a problem besides like 0.1% of people

[naive cradle]

lmfaoo

its so funny seeing ppl complain abt this typa stuff#

[faint goblet]

Sounds like diego

[pliant wyvern]

Nothing like diego

[scarlet cargo]

Erm

If only

[golden geode]

couldnt agree more. remove everyting

[pliant wyvern]

Nothing can or will beat how dummy op aa homura is

[golden geode]

especially this new event was hella trash

[swift warren]

Ive talked with a lot of ppl and they agree with me😭 the best unit in the game shoul be for players that have good units and not for new players (imo ofc)

[golden geode]

new players just using m*cro getting escanor, rrs

yippie u got one of the best units without any effort

[swift warren]

RELLL

[scarlet cargo]

Good on yall

[pliant wyvern]

Now remove they event and they do the same shit with portals

Wow nothing changed

[scarlet cargo]

Though i think the devs are gonna see the update maintaining 70k ccu for 3 weeks and assume that the community liked the unit being obtainable

Just my hunch

Gl though

[golden geode]

just let them use their own units in the goddamn mode

[swift warren]

Dandadan event was grate, only bad thing about it was that it gave u not enought event currency for time spent

[scarlet cargo]

No, thats the point of the mode

[golden geode]

i dont wanna see people like 20 lvl getting escanor

[scarlet cargo]

Youre free to do longer more painful grinds if you choose

[scarlet cargo]

Wow youre telling me people get lucky in a gacha game

Mindblowing

[swift warren]

Still dandadan event was better than this event

[golden geode]

are u slow or smth

[swift warren]

But it gave u not enought currency for time spent

[golden geode]

that mode is equal for everything, even low lvl players can just go and m*cro it

[scarlet cargo]

Yeah, mode was designed with that in mind

[swift warren]

If hes Lucky then congratulations, but lvls 11 zhouldnt be able to hit the pity as fast as lvl 100

[golden geode]

yeah and im saying thats a bad idea

[azure chasm]

guys
i love people agree with my idea but being toxic to others because they don't agree is not the way

[scarlet cargo]

According to who lmfao

Clearly not the majority

[golden geode]

atp just gift the vanguard unit lol

[swift warren]

Andits bad

[scarlet cargo]

"Its bad cuz i said so"

[golden geode]

idc about "majority" which is just some low lvls

[scarlet cargo]

Youre gonna complaint about magnoing and then boast about levels

[golden geode]

if u ask to people they will say yeah 500 rrs code is a good idea

[scarlet cargo]

Yeah nice one

[swift warren]

But clearly lvl 11 shouldn't get the same things as fast as lvl 50

[golden geode]

but its not

[scarlet cargo]

No actually people usually shit on suggestions about making farmable rrs

Or that

[golden geode]

everyone gonna ask for easy way

[scarlet cargo]

Or doing codes that give more rrs

Everyone just likes this upd since its what the community wanted, and it shows

[swift warren]

And giving away free vanguards is shitty idea too

[golden geode]

game is just pressing on every button for getting players

[faint goblet]

My bad

[scarlet cargo]

Ill just have you know level reqs are worthless against botters

Ban waves are the only effective counter measure

[golden geode]

atleast lvl req 50 would make it fair

[swift warren]

Oh yeah sr, giving the best unit grind time to be the same for everyone is bad asf

[swift warren]

Frfr

[golden geode]

getting 10 lvl just takes 1,5 hour

even less

[swift warren]

Thats why dandadan event was grate: u had evolved meta units, u could win the game

[mild vapor]

all of them was level 70

[golden geode]

yeah exactly

[golden geode]

when they add trading those m*cro friendly events will ruin the economy

[upbeat nova]

lvl 70

[mild vapor]

trading will ruin the game itself

[upbeat nova]

did they do the inf bug

[golden geode]

yeah

still they will add it ig

[mild vapor]

they are bots of roblox, roblox botting most of the games with stacked looking accaunts

[mild vapor]

all of them were using luffies et

etc

[golden geode]

like why would people bother theirselves with grinding for vanguard unit?

they will just buy bundle and trade for it

[mild vapor]

with the worst economy system

fym familiars will be tradeable

[amber ember]

press f Society

[scarlet cargo]

People will complain about fucking anything

[proven cave]

bump

upvote

[golden geode]

bro just typing shit🥱

[mild vapor]

what is that ''inf bug''? i heard that before

[desert roost]

literally the entire point of corruption

[azure chasm]

making 99% of other grind worthless is totally healthy

[golden geode]

this you?

[scarlet cargo]

Im not the one crying about the game respecting my time tbh so nah

Not me

[mild vapor]

bro being toxic in every chance he get and telling people attention seeker

[azure chasm]

just say you want it for free

🙏🏼

[golden geode]

no one is crying vro

[scarlet cargo]

Should they remove synthesis too because it allows people to evo newer units without doing the respective legend stages?

[golden geode]

just these new player friendly things are being too much

thats what i said

[scarlet cargo]

Should they stop powercreeping units because new banners make old ones irrelevant

[azure chasm]

not the same thing because people have to wait for another upd for the newer evo materials

[azure chasm]

and you still need to grind stages

[scarlet cargo]

Ah yes the 20 tinytasked sand village runs

The true endgame content

You got me

[worn coral]

no because it's way different from what this suggestion is talking about

[desert roost]

new player friendliness is one of the most important things for the game btw

[azure chasm]

you guys take it to another levels with these events

but whatever

[scarlet cargo]

Yeah, the update being the best performing since 1.0 should be very blatant evidence of that

But there will always be some people who complain ig

[golden geode]

oh yeah 20 lvls using m*cro and getting escanor is really important

[pliant wyvern]

because new players chose to get the vanguard easier instead of 90 rrs?

[mild vapor]

it definitely is, but thats too much

[golden geode]

and they coming up with "10 lvl" lol

[worn coral]

who's doing this from the get go though im confused

[scarlet cargo]

Why are you acting like levels are indicative of jackshit

[worn coral]

wouldn't they try to get the event units instead

[golden geode]

even my low lvl friend just did it, got escanor with the event m*croing

[scarlet cargo]

All levels entail is how much you magno lmfao

[worn coral]

that's one out of what man

[azure chasm]

so you saying making other grinds pointless with just doing a thing that is easy to tinytask is healthy

you really think anyone will go for banner units if the event exist

💀

[scarlet cargo]

"Set a level cap and force people to tinytask for 20 hours before they can do the event"

[desert roost]

And the performance of the update suggests that it's a good level, anyways.

[golden geode]

trust me its def not one

[scarlet cargo]

Give him the dumbest av player role already

🔥

[worn coral]

even then if u suggested a level cap wouldn't they just 🥭

??

what

ermmm

[scarlet cargo]

They would

Exactly the point

[worn coral]

so like

[azure chasm]

that will take their time and force them to do other things

[worn coral]

a longer 🥭 grind and then event?

[pliant wyvern]

exactly
and make the experience for non macro players even worse🔥

[azure chasm]

ofc it will do well
everyone want free shit easily

[worn coral]

• get mythic unit then 🥭 some bum stages

[scarlet cargo]

"Force to do other things" evo vegita and afk sand for 10 hours?

[golden geode]

not everyone will bother theirselves with this

[scarlet cargo]

Andrevious level balancing

🙏

[worn coral]

I think there could've been a better way than to harm non 🥭 users though

I understand that it should have a level cap but it isn't gonna stop them

[naive cradle]

ppl are stupid bro

[golden geode]

wanna hear a better idea? dont add shitty events like this

[worn coral]

when they have a mythic on start

[naive cradle]

this guys complaining that ppl are getting free stuff 💔

bro

[scarlet cargo]

You and 14 other idiots with 1 shared braincell think the event is bad

[naive cradle]

you might actually be stupid bro

this yoshikage guy is spewing a whole lotta nothing

[scarlet cargo]

70k ccu indicates a very positive response overall

Youre not the center of the world

[worn coral]

weren't we at 20k~ ccu when the aot update dropped

[naive cradle]

still 70k ccu

[mild vapor]

i could find more

[golden geode]

av has no bots they said

[scarlet cargo]

And? Bots consistently get banned lol

[azure chasm]

are we comparing a shitty update with one that is good

[naive cradle]

saw it getting to 15k

[worn coral]

we could say that for other games tho

[mild vapor]

THEY ARE FUCKING 70 LEVEL

[naive cradle]

at some points

[naive cradle]

not rlly

well yeah

[mild vapor]

DO YOU HAVE SOME PROBLEM

[scarlet cargo]

Takes 1 day, dumbass

[naive cradle]

obviously

[mild vapor]

S

WTF

[naive cradle]

takes like 1 or 2 days

[golden geode]

bro is falling for the ragebait😭

[worn coral]

read up

thank u

[naive cradle]

ragebait all of a sudden cause your point is stupid 💔

[scarlet cargo]

Some of you fucking idiots have never sand ls in 2x weekends

Jesus

[golden geode]

are u stupid i meant other guy

[gilded oracle]

no matter what cheat they find, theres still ones impossible to detect people really take technology to its limits atp

[scarlet cargo]

Acting like level 70 takes time

[golden geode]

im still defending my point

[worn coral]

I never did because i lowkey don't even know

[naive cradle]

idc

your point is stupid too

[mild vapor]

im out bro gl with those dumbasses ✌️

[worn coral]

yeah always was

[naive cradle]

the ccu says otherwise lmfaoo

[worn coral]

anticheat ain't gonna detect effectively 100% of the time

[scarlet cargo]

Not targeted at you, moreso at the dumbasses who think a level cap accomplishes jackshit

[gilded oracle]

exactly

[worn coral]

No it's more of something that surprised me because I didn't know it's possible

[scarlet cargo]

Oh thats fair

[azure chasm]

we are using ccu players when ofc a new friendly update with hype characters will do well
vsjw is the example grind stuff that take time and locked for semi end game players can work

[scarlet cargo]

Yeah bot farms can get level 100 in a few days max if it comes to it

[worn coral]

Eitherway av will get some people but not all of dem alongside some updated scripts

[scarlet cargo]

70 is nothing

[worn coral]

vsjw was so boring oml 💔

but rng is shit too

[scarlet cargo]

Yeah lol

That upd dropped to 40k in a week and a half

[worn coral]

I liked the stage but not doing it 50 times

[golden geode]

where is their ban

[crimson patrol]

3 days at max

[pliant wyvern]

it will come

[worn coral]

I did it in 2 days

[golden geode]

im seeing this shit everyday tho

[azure chasm]

they are the ccu people like snoonbert mention

[crimson patrol]

Proving my point

[azure chasm]

🙏🏼

[scarlet cargo]

Spamming the same ss like a pokemon isnt gonna make your opinion any less dogshit, btw 🔥

[gilded oracle]

like i don't even get whats really wrong with these "bot accounts" people acting like if this game had trading

[balmy kestrel]

Not everyone has that kind of time to grind it

[scarlet cargo]

Is this the first time people have seen bots

[worn coral]

^^^

[golden geode]

not even same ss i just took it lol

[scarlet cargo]

Do you guys not know bot bans do not happen instantly lmfao

[worn coral]

I only did it two days cus i had two day offs

[golden geode]

bro is reallt slow

[worn coral]

trading was confirmed b4 I think not sure

[worn coral]

anticheat can't rlly detect if it's an updated script etc

😢

[scarlet cargo]

There are definitely issues with bots, but they get banned. It just, isnt instant?

[mild vapor]

🙏

[scarlet cargo]

I guess some people dont know how anticheats work

[gilded oracle]

they prob said it on upd 5 and here we are still lmao still we know which units would get higher value and the ones that wouldn't

[balmy kestrel]

Ant raid takes 20 mins per run easily, 50 raids is almost 17 hours. If people can only dedicate 2 hours (and their only two hours at that) a day then it would still take them almost 9 days of using their only time they can play just to try and evo vsjw

[scarlet cargo]

You know this suggestion was being made fun of in this thread right 💀

[worn coral]

ye

[mild vapor]

no shit sherlock

[worn coral]

not to mention if people r gonna leave

I genuinely couldn't do vsjw quest that much since i have a job

[worn coral]

my friends just couldn't cus it was hella boring

[mild vapor]

bro tried hard to find something

[gilded oracle]

it's a never ending quest for sure

i guess thats the value of vsjw being "free"

[scarlet cargo]

No it took like 30 seconds but i can understand, your attention span is cooked

Not even denying it 🥀

[golden geode]

🥱

[worn coral]

insanely worth tho for sure

[azure chasm]

should be the standar for vanguards

🙏🏼

[lone basalt]

yes true

[gilded oracle]

and the poll they made for the unit that should make a comeback really smells a vanguard gojo grind coming

[strong wasp]

Yo what if we like

Nah nevermind

[golden geode]

prob just a small rework

[frail junco]

not even

its %99 gonna be a stat buff

[golden geode]

they should change his passives its just ass😭

[timid quest]

this suggestion screams projection. Nothing wrong with the game being beginner-friendly, the issue is with end-game content and not with beginner-friendly content. How is the game gonna survive if you only cater to one side of the playerbase. Don't be suggesting stuff like this just because you feel like new players are catching up to you.

[tawny tusk]

Idk why you count gogeta

Gogeta was the longest vanguard being out there

My english is peak btw

[hoary rain]

bad news for you vanguards requires +11 levels

[swift warren]

Event thing is begginer-friendly all of the units in this Banner are meta, escanor especialy, so why for everyone takes the same time to get him, better players aren't benneficing for being better at all

Dan da dan event was perfect, u had to have good units (not traits) to beat it but currency gain for time spent was only thing that was bad in it

[azure chasm]

your message sound like you feel i attacked you

[faint goblet]

Idk man, everyone would choose the monarch modifier

[azure chasm]

40% less income is stupid

[swift warren]

Then choose it, if u have monarch then choose the money one

[faint goblet]

It would have been worse with todays units

[azure chasm]

the units are really good,make standar banner units irrelevant,makes ls stages irrelevant and you feel is good ti keep with something like that

av players can't decide if they want grind but good content or nothing and lazyness content

[timid quest]

You just restated what I said, beginner friendly content is good because it racks in new players, that never was the problem. The problem was end-game content for older more experienced players. Wanting better content for veteran players doesn't mean you have to reduce beginner friendly content. Both can go hand-in-hand.

[timid quest]

Sorry my bad, probably became too defensive and sensitive after reading other bad suggestions. I apologize

[azure chasm]

guys we almost 70 ❌

[faint goblet]

Lowk leave it to 69

[azure chasm]

WE DID IT 70 ❌ 🥳 and 2300 messages aswell

[proven cave]

bump

upvote pls

[safe gazelle]

sybau

[safe gazelle]

lil kid

[oak pond]

"pls make the game worse because i dont like newgens"

[upbeat nova]

RAHHHHHHH

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-super-broly-broly-rage-yell-scream-gif-25779461

[azure chasm]

mfs really ruined the 70 ❌

[cobalt fern]

and people really considered closing my thread about rifts

this needa be shut down bro 💔

[azure chasm]

lock both instead

✌️

[cobalt fern]

my rift suggestions were goated

youre just hating

[azure chasm]

were goated 💔

[cobalt fern]

you shouldnt tell me what it and isnt a good suggestion when you made this 💔

[azure chasm]

i can tell if a suggestion is bad when i create stuff like it bro
im a expert

[unkempt atlas]

i was talking how mid is gogeta

[vast river]

wyk about obito being meta

[azure chasm]

bump

[hoary rain]

ngl reading this its actually valid

mfs hate without reading shi

[vast river]

better reading material than my entire general english course, i could write an essay on this shit and enjoy it lmao

[swift warren]

No, just make fair grind for new players and old/better players

[upbeat nova]

People are clearly reading it

[deft seal]

we are so cooked if there is no trading by the time escanor is limited

[naive cradle]

is this a bug

[reef talon]

I see nothing wrong

[hoary rain]

doesnt look like

[tawny tusk]

You are gergos

[naive cradle]

10 hours for reset again

[nova mural]

the shop changes the day before the rift

it wont reset again tmrw

[naive cradle]

oh

good

[cold jungle]

old players had like 7.5 updates to get overpowered

wb old worldline/exclusive units ?

new players cant access them

and why u using "fair" in a rng based td

😭

devs literally made the game more bearable by adding pity,revamping daily rewards

giving a chance for everyone to try out new units

escanor was specifically designed to help out new players

thats why even with 1m dmg he's behind kaguya

u sound so sad ong

u js wanna gatekeep the main content cuz u dont like new players getting shit before u

[azure chasm]

what the hell is bro talking about
mf really think making 99% of the other content worthless is good

well grind

no way people think someone will grind for any other unit the moment they get escanor

[unkempt atlas]

ye thats why multi hit escanor suggestions exist

[scarlet cargo]

100 downvotes lets go 🔥

[cobalt fern]

shut tis down already

[undone wadi]

I would think getting lucky would incentivize more players to actually grind the game more to make that unit even better.(stats,traits,etc) also even if it mean the player won’t go for old outdated units they’ll most likely continue to play and progress with each update. I know you didn’t say this but if the devs wanted players to have motivation to go for old units they should actually have put half decent rewards in the enemy index instead like a couple thousand gem.

[timid quest]

true, when I first started, the grind was horrible for me until I got lucky with monarch SJW, pushed me into actually finishing his vanguard quest

[azure chasm]

different situation
the grind for escanor didn't require you to actually pay attention to the game or force you to grind for a team

vsjw is the completely opositive, not only you had to grind to build a entire team to get him but also pay attention (if you didn't have premium 🥭 ) because of the multiple paths the map had and also the extra quests you had to do to get the EVO item to get vsjw

with escanor is just:
1.Tiny task for days
2.Summon
3.Easy vanguard

[azure chasm]

for stats,trait rerolls and familiars yea but for future units that aren't vanguards then no

why would you grind for x unit even if they are meta if escanor can destroy the content already and have auto upgrade

not even familiars at all, only one stage will be farmed and is cid raid

[timid quest]

Yeah I get that somewhat, but I think the game gave escanor good enough weaknesses that he can't solo the new hard content (EX STAGES) and to solo other hard modes, Monarch is needed. Just because a minority of new players get real lucky (have both escanor and monarch on him) that you should "punish" the majority of the new players who aren't lucky. I don't think the beginner-friendliness is currently a big issue or is going to be an issue with AV.

[azure chasm]

only 1 stage and he doesn't need monarchs to beat most content wdym, he ends with 262k damage in 15 wave content and his passives deny other type of issues other than shielded enemies
you only need monarch if you going to solo ex stages, content that most people doesn't do that meanwhile the general content or relevant ones like cid raid are destroyed by him

so you forcing the devs to add shielded enemies in every stages so it doesn't end being escanor simulator

not everyone should have a unit like him so easily

the grind become irrelevant when he exist 😭

[proven cave]

he can solo aot gg

[timid quest]

You're looking at this from a wrong stand point. If updates like 7.5 happen OFTEN then I would see it as an issue. This was literally the only update in a while that catered to beginners/new-players. From what you're saying, it sounds more like you want new players to suffer the same grinding experience you did, and you think it's unfair; well that's called improving the gaming experience lmao. If new players are experiencing the same frustrations you or other veteran players had before, that would mean the game isn't upgrading itself. I'ma repeat, the problem is with there not being enough hard-content/endgame content that rewards you equal to its difficulty and not this beginner-friendly update.

[pastel elm]

are we deadass

[untold flicker]

Ya

[pastel elm]

they did not cook with this

[civic relic]

you make some valid points, but its not "improving the new player experience" when the "improvements" are limited time content

i do agree the game is better now for new players in regards to when i first started playing

[timid quest]

Yeah I'm not defending the flaws of the update, but overall, the game is going in a much better direction than it was previously.

[civic relic]

but still, this event isnt "improving" it

its slapping a band-aid on the issue and calling it solved

[civic relic]

fully agree

[azure chasm]

they already have a lot of stuff that make their life easier and none of them nulify or make other grind irrelevant

[civic relic]

there are only a few improvements that i feel would make the game better but they seem to just ignore the suggestions about them

some around general QOL and some around certain characters

[civic relic]

imo the new gamemode should have been worse than portals for the new currency

it being like 1.75x better is kinda nuts

especially since it requires no new units

plus a lot of the units from this event are easy to evo and really good

(namely leo, quetzal, ali, and newsman)

evo newsman and quetzal and u got leo then evo her

and now u have an insanely strong team

and thats legit just 1 night of tinytask 💀

[azure chasm]

and yet everyone think something like that is healthy

[timid quest]

Tbh, the new units are good but they aren't versatile, not immune to most things. (New players can use the new units, and it's not a big issue because it helps them grind for other units) However, I do agree escanor as a banner vanguard should be behind some kind of higher level content wall.

[civic relic]

not immune to most things doesnt really matter since there is very little important content that requires immune things

[timid quest]

lol all the new maps have some mechanic that blinds/debuffs/stuns you

[civic relic]

i mean yes, but having these solid of dps and support units from legit just sitting afk for 6-8 hours is kinda crazy

u just get orihime or sakura and now those units are viable for a while

[azure chasm]

seasonal vanguards should be from quests

[civic relic]

sakura is legit less than 3k for her full aoe cleanse

[azure chasm]

i mean vanguards

[civic relic]

ehhh

banner is fine

BUT there being a pity this low is the problem

it should have been 40k or even 60k

not just 20k

[timid quest]

I don't think pity needs to be raised.

[civic relic]

and why not

[timid quest]

I agree, some kind of quest to unlock the banner vanguard

then you can summon him

[civic relic]

you can hit pity from literally 5 days of afk grinding

or like 20 days of just sitting in afk chamber

these events are supposed to last 90 days

you could legit just sit in afk chamber for 4.5 hours a day

and still hit pity with the way it is rn

[azure chasm]

increasing the pity won't solve anything and just made the grind more boring for no reasons
a quest like vsjw should be their obtainment

[civic relic]

the quests are just for unique units or permanent vanguards i believe

what point would there be to a seasonal banner if the most sought after thing didnt come from it

if vanguards were in a quest-style system, they should scratch the entire seasonal banner concept

and add other methods to obtain the units

[azure chasm]

i mean you can link the vanguard to the banner after doing the quest like xmas say

[timid quest]

5 days is a reach, and you need to understand the majority of players are casual players. They probably don't mcro or afk 24/7. I think it's weird to punish the majority of players for the actions of some.

[civic relic]

5 days for this event is not a reach, you get 3k every 6 minutes, thats 30k an hour, you only need 100 hours of afk to hit pity

realistically its doable in just over 4 days

[proven cave]

by giving new players everything?

[civic relic]

and that 3k every 6 minutes is from the new gamemode, the thing you dont need any pre-existing units for

or doing portals that u occasionally lose

[timid quest]

that's with a mcro, I don't mcro. And I bet you a lot of players don't aswell. I think it's not right to just raise the pity because someone people can AFK farm.

[civic relic]

you can use an autoclicker to get those times

it might be 7 minutes per run

but you can use an autoclicker (which even ios has) to do it

the update was wayyyy too new player friendly

if the units were a bit worse than they were and the pity was raised it'd be understandable

but one of the banner seasonals is the 11th best unit in the game

[timid quest]

Well this is just my and your opinion. The truth lies in the statistics. As long the updates racks in players and revenue for the game, that's probably what they will aim towards.

[civic relic]

and another one of them is quite literally the best support

[civic relic]

then that leads to an als situation

if each update has higher and higher scaling, eventually when you slow it down you crash, HARD

ALS went from 100k ccu to 20k in a month

now they are at 15k

[timid quest]

I'm sure the devs can handle it. Games have their ups and downs.

[civic relic]

thats putting aside the problem entirely

you cannot just ignore issues

[timid quest]

what are you talking about even, lmao? 1. I'm a player just like you, these issues are not for YOU or ME to fix 2. what YOU see as an issue, might not be an issue for others 3. I get that you're sharing your view point but statistics don't lie, maybe YOU didn't enjoy this update or don't agree in the direction the game is going. BUT a lot of other players enjoyed the update based on the active player count, and overall positive reactions to the upd.

[civic relic]

i quite literally said earlier that i like the direction the game is going, i just said its too extreme for it to release meta units AND have a new gamemode that is super easy and the best way to grind currency

and you keep mentioning ccu statistics but that doesnt really matter

are you saying grow a garden is the best game to exist ever?

out of all games on all platforms?

[timid quest]

CCU matters, even if we don't want it to. It's basically what feeds the devs, this is their job afterall. Of course, it's not the only important factor, because there are a lot of components to a good game (TBH it's all subjective because even if we don't enjoy Grow a Garden, others might.) I'm just disagreeing with your extreme solutions. While I do agree with your points of there should be a moderation of "easy-to-grind/afk units", I also think the majority of players don't mcro or afk. Your suggestion was to raise the pity (everyone who AFKs/mcros can just do it longer since it's automated. The majority that does thing manually would be the actual ones at a disadvantage. I do see good points you've made, but those solutions you've came up with just punishes casual players who don't mcro (a big majority).

[swift warren]

And its good, but why better players doesn't got any advance in this update???

I think its a little unfair

[civic arrow]

I don't see peoples issue with the pitty being 3 mil

[timid quest]

I'm talking about his suggestion, lol, i did not suggest a higher pity.

[civic arrow]

if you dont mcro you already take like 80hours for one unit

[civic arrow]

yeah ik

its just a spammed comment

[ember bear]

It should be way higher

At least level 30

Having a vanguard before you even get a 5th unit slot just seems absurd

[scarlet cargo]

What do you think this accomplishes

Besides forcing people to run like 2 hours of sand village legend stages

How is promoting afking a different activity to then be able to afk the event a solution to ANYTHING

[civic relic]

but hey with escanor u dont even need to have those slots unlocked to get his full benefits :D

they count as empty

[ember bear]

Your acting as if escanor is the only vanguard unit

[ember bear]

Prevents botting

• having a vanguard early game is quite pointless

Why in the world would a level 10 need a vanguard

A random mythic can already carry you far enough

[civic relic]

well no im just saying that unit obtainable by level 10s

is also fully usable by level 10s

since the best way to use him most of the time is by himself

unlike kaguya

[scarlet cargo]

It just does not lol

You think botters are gonna have a hard time getting to level 30?

[timid quest]

Best way is a questline to unlock the ability to summon him. That's probably the best way to balance vanguards so they are strong but not obtainable through just sheer newbie luck, the player would need a certain amount of progression throughout the game to have the vanguard unit

[faint goblet]

The mereleona quest ig

Youll be evolving those units anyway

[ember bear]

Much harder time than getting to level 10

[ember bear]

Agreed

[cold jungle]

kaguya needs a team and performs better than escanor

i can solo the jeju raid within 18 minutes js by spamming fire and ice domains

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