will still drain units
#LIMITED vanguards and just LIMITEDS in general.
mighty drum
Nullified stops a total of 0 debuffs
wide pelican
😭
it only stops like
modifiers
not card modifiers but like
shit like resilient
mighty drum
It stops resillient thats like almsot it
deep pulsar
She basically just removes damage resistance
mighty drum
Yeah
rare rock
revi isnt regen btw
mighty drum
Boss mechanics yeah
wide pelican
not debuffs
mighty drum
compulsory/ywhach
Yhwach is just 100% dodge
deep pulsar
Yhwach is just 100% dodge
Yea but she doesn't remove dodge
Just removes yhwach's
wide pelican
Yhwach is just 100% dodge
yah
mighty drum
Right
deep pulsar
Both rupture units ignore dodge
mighty drum
wide pelican
Both rupture units ignore dodge<:smirk_1:1250841386878505030>
comp
nukes should at least ignore dodge
anyways this is besides the point
empty aspen
@quartz elm where are you gone bro
wide pelican
i wasnt here for the beginning of the convo but im assuming its talking about how units like lucy are just absolutely needed
and yeah its fucked
empty aspen
Let him stay gone
🤣🤣
mighty drum
i wasnt here for the beginning of the convo but im assuming its talking about ho...
Yes
wide pelican
luckily i have both her and aladdin
and i can say without them i would hate this game
mighty drum
Apparently orehime of all units is a luce replacement
deep pulsar
i wasnt here for the beginning of the convo but im assuming its talking about ho...
Its almost like there was a whole poll about that
wide pelican
i dont have esdeath tho and even tho shes not as NEEDED it still sucks not having one of the best ccs
mighty drum
I could even hear out a "medea is luce replacement" but orehime??
empty aspen
i wasnt here for the beginning of the convo but im assuming its talking about ho...
That's my suggestion and he keeps saying there's replacements and then gave me oriheme as a replacement
wide pelican
so i can imagine how ppl without lucy or aladdin are struggling
its like
lucy doesnt even need to be crept
just ANY other alternative
brazen citrus
and i can say without them i would hate this game
Fr
wide pelican
the one good thing about dio oh is that he will like 90% be a nullify
mighty drum
Al SORTA has a replacement in cleanse units, grasping for straws but yeah
wide pelican
fits with his reality rewriting abilities
mighty drum
Luce has effectively none
Merlin gets ruined by the fact that she was made with pvp in mind
Medea is not it
empty aspen
Destroying the toilet after eating too much kebabs
wide pelican
still tho nothing is replacing a full aoe high range 100% uptime nullify 😭
empty aspen
Was worth it tho
wide pelican
Destroying the toilet after eating too much kebabs
did NOT need to know this bro
empty aspen
still tho nothing is replacing a full aoe high range 100% uptime nullify 😭
And cheap asf
empty aspen
did NOT need to know this bro
empty aspen
aladdin too is like
Lmao when I mentioned him he said but we are not talking about him
wide pelican
🤦
empty aspen
We're fucking talking about cleansers and guess who's the best cleanser
wide pelican
i honestly think that like
making supports limited is just not good for the game
supports with no alternatives
shit like dps can be crept
empty aspen
making supports limited is just not good for the game
It's fucking stupid
wide pelican
but when u add units like aladdin and lucy who are like uncreepable
empty aspen
I said in my suggestion that I don't mind meta dps limiteds but supports are a big no for me
empty aspen
And it's been MONTHS with no good replacements
wide pelican
a new player isnt gonna suffer if they dont have them
empty aspen
a new player isnt gonna suffer if they dont have them
Yep but for supports like Giselle, Lucy, Al its gonna be EXTREMELY difficult to do alot of tourneys wout them
And tourneys give good shit like
Not like they only give 5 rrs like aa if u get 1st
😭✌️
wide pelican
🤦
deep pulsar
The solution to Giselle is just powercreep yhwach
deep pulsar
Yea but won't affect majority of tournaments
Last like 5 times she was used it was cuz of yhwach
And adding a unit whose similar to gazelle wouldn't change anything and ppl whould just run both for even stronger yhwach
mighty drum
The solution to Giselle is just powercreep yhwach<:greenguy:1383961845995671654>
Surely this occurs by 2027
mighty drum
Ong
kind glade
i think the main problem that isnt really being mentioned in the op is more that having vanguards tied to events causes FOMO, along with the fact that said events have such an insane grind tied to them that, due to the fact the vanguards are tied to a banner, could end either on literal login or once the event itself ends. i wouldn't even really mind grinding if the grind was at least fun, but its not, its the same repeat maps with the same exact strategy with the same exact loadout, just running the same thing over and over and over to just have a chance at getting the vanguard
deep pulsar
Surely this occurs by 2027
It will take alot to powercreep that monster but I believe we can do it
mighty drum
Make diavolo a fodder mythic and yhwach a vanguard
mighty drum
It will take alot to powercreep that monster but I believe we can do it<:redfox_...
It would take a full 100k dps prolly yeah
deep pulsar
Its also the range and cost
Hes just so insane
mighty drum
When is this going to happen
deep pulsar
Cuz iirc hei and mereleona can outdps
mighty drum
Hei can kinda if you make all of his placements attack in sync
And have another burn to sustain him
With eth
Then again yhwach+joe+sakura still mogs
Idk if merleona can thatd take some insane ability usage
mighty drum
Hei can kinda if you make all of his placements attack in sync
Then again this is lowkey impractical everywhere besides inf
Since you need 4 placements and a burn to sustain him. The burn unit is also losing out on a lot of dps so theres that drawback too
Plus you gotta have him attack in sync otherwise theyre killing their own dps
lethal cipher
buff diego to make him full aoe and better than yhwach
full aoe with burn
halcyon haven
full aoe with burn
full aoe with BLEED and BURN and FREEZE and slow
because bleed = dinosaur
burn = hot climate
freeze = time stop
slow = scared of dinosaur
mighty drum
empty aspen
Yea but won't affect majority of tournaments
she was the reason i stopped doing tourneys for months lol
empty aspen
Weather report
Katakuri
weather report is genuinely so fucking insane
how can they make him a limited
brazen citrus
Fr
empty aspen
they keep repeating the same mistakes 😭
empty aspen
slow = scared of dinosaur
i love you
petition to buff my monarch diego 🥹
how can you guys make a dino ass
gloomy trail
Just for clarification, you do know they confirmed they’re adding trading right?
nova current
Just for clarification, you do know they confirmed they’re adding trading right?
what are you supposed to trade
gloomy trail
Familiars mainly, that’s why the devs made it annoying to get the rerolls for them so the f2p players can have a market.
mossy plinth
Familiars mainly, that’s why the devs made it annoying to get the rerolls for th...
that's it?
whats the point of trading if its just familiars that are highly valuable?
you can include units but only a few has the potential to be tradeable
the rest were either duped or too many copies to have any value
gloomy trail
No, that’s just what they brought up as to why it was hard to roll good stats on familiars
I’m assuming they’ll let us trade all limited units
mossy plinth
i think this is anoth
mossy plinth
I’m assuming they’ll let us trade all limited units
yeah they will but its liky only 4
or 5 that's going have some crazy value
the rest just won't have any due to being duped or too many people has this unit
this is why av need to like change things around
not sure what we're going be trading for when they giving everything out like its a free candy
rustic river
surely you understand how value works in trading right
mossy plinth
surely you understand how value works in trading right
yeah so i'd say demand
because that's how you determine the units
don't know why you need to say all of that?
are people going op for duped units?
no
rustic river
what point are you even trying to make
mossy plinth
LOL
nvm ill just ignore you and pretend you didnt just say that
anyways back to it,
rustic river
you're making 0 sense bro
value is relative to each other
if everything has shit value
the highest "low value" is still high
overinflating the amount of vangaurd units are not gna do shit
if you're talking value then the only things that r gna have good high value are bundles
and even so the value range is still relative to the mainstream value list
noone is paying 4 escanors for a cheap bundle cos "many escanor exist escanor shit value"
get ur facts right buddy stop ragebaiting
loser blocked me LOL
empty aspen
Just for clarification, you do know they confirmed they’re adding trading right?
Yeah what about it? We still don't have replacements for most meta supports which is very fucking stupid and guess what? Trading isn't even out yet so why even bother mentioning it when God knows when it'll even come out
empty aspen
overinflating the amount of vangaurd units are not gna do shit
It'll js make them have no value, escanor won't be worth anywhere near as much as Lucy which is fucking crazy considering she's js a BP unit
edgy mortar
not sure what we're going be trading for when they giving everything out like it...
Thats why gigachads invested their av Premium Stocks in the dan da dan update. Sweet 4k ccu
Investing for the future. Feeling like that mf who told other ppl to buy bitcoin for 1 dollar
smoky pulsar
she will be worth a fubuki bro
edgy mortar
she will be worth a fubuki bro
Who exactly. I didnt read allat
earnest lodgeBOT
otter is AFK: kamishini no yari - 4 minutes ago
empty aspen
Who exactly. I didnt read allat
shiny granny
edgy mortar
shiny granny
Holy yapp
Shiny saiko>diavolo > dev seat
Praying to god av trading will go smooth with no game breaking bugs
Dont wanna witness anything like the 3 great dupes in yba again
empty aspen
Dont wanna witness anything like the 3 great dupes in yba again
UNBAN MY MAIN IN YBA
edgy mortar
So sad how yba died years sgo cuz of shitty devs. Turned into a skin sim
Yk what i am sad asf about
About arrox that lazy bum not caring about demon fall :C
empty aspen
demon fall...
edgy mortar
All those ranked games+ fighting against exploiters to be on the lb
empty aspen
i got my account hacked becuase of it
edgy mortar
Just for him to let it die
edgy mortar
i got my account hacked becuase of it
Oh dayum
empty aspen
back when i was a stupid like 13/14yo
edgy mortar
Happens to everyone
empty aspen
project slayers is sm better tho
thought ps2 mgiht come out this summer but guess not
edgy mortar
project slayers is sm better tho
Played it a bit but it Was buggy asf
empty aspen
there was a 50k gp?
edgy mortar
same with gpo whole cake island upd
I swear gpo died for me after upd 3.0
empty aspen
pretty sure that doesnt exist
edgy mortar
They reused everything after that
empty aspen
I swear gpo died for me after upd 3.0
prime gpo was the BEST game on roblox
edgy mortar
Ong?
empty aspen
mhm
empty aspen
i had more but traded for some lb items
edgy mortar
It Was above 10k
Is there a way to check old gp items prices?
Icl tho for me demon fall was the greatest demon slayer game
But yk
Ass devs
How tf
Does demon fall still have 3.2k
Players 😭
empty aspen
Icl tho for me demon fall was the greatest demon slayer game
it was ass icl
edgy mortar
it was ass icl
Yo buddy
edgy mortar
Its as garbage
empty aspen
now u js sit and afk in av
edgy mortar
As their code
empty aspen
everything now is js about afking overnight or 24/7
empty aspen
Its as garbage
idk man, better graphics, better cosmetics and game mechanics
edgy mortar
But i get what u mean
empty aspen
Tbf at least av is somewhow interactive
💀
they do anything for 1 extra player
av portrayed itself as the anti afk game but while making everything about afking
edgy mortar
idk man, better graphics, better cosmetics and game mechanics
The cosmetics are actually better but i wouldnt say that they got better graphics and mechanics
empty aspen
The cosmetics are actually better but i wouldnt say that they got better graphic...
they defo do bro
edgy mortar
av portrayed itself as the anti afk game but while making everything about afkin...
Well they did add afk chamber for ppl that cant mangrco
edgy mortar
they defo do bro
Bro i played both. I still know how heated arguments between Fans of both games were. But demon fall was by far the better demon slayer game
Aint even reaching atp
empty aspen
Bro i played both. I still know how heated arguments between Fans of both games ...
how is it better tho
yk what ik demon fall for?
bm thats it
duping and bm
edgy mortar
Acting as not every game has bm
empty aspen
best way to get robux lol
empty aspen
Acting as not every game has bm
no where near as much as dm
biggest bm and duping in roblox
edgy mortar
How Do you know(Insert meme)
edgy mortar
no where near as much as dm
Nah bro thats a crazy take
empty aspen
How Do you know(Insert meme)
i had frriends who did that and used to always give me shit
edgy mortar
Yba gotta be the roblox game with the biggest bm issue
edgy mortar
i had frriends who did that and used to always give me shit
~we got enough evidence~
Oh
I failed
empty aspen
im mobile so yeah cant do that shit lmao
halcyon haven
im bouta just give up 
gloomy trail
Yeah what about it? We still don't have replacements for most meta supports whic...
I’m pretty sure they were implying that it would be added in the anniversary update but I may be wrong
So if we’re lucky and it’s on time
September 8th
empty aspen
dream on
edgy mortar
im bouta just give up <:cyclopscrying:1356585332925136896>
Hold this pity
And wait for shiny day
halcyon haven
Hold this pity
whens that
edgy mortar
Tomorrow i think
halcyon haven
ohh alr
halcyon haven
guess what i got yesterday tho
🖕
empty aspen
yep js the armor which was the cool part about it
maiden carbon
shiny diavolo and shiny baiken solos every other shiny in the game
empty aspen
why tf does the armor have the monarch symbol tho ✌️
empty aspen
shiny diavolo and shiny baiken solos every other shiny in the game
shiny alucard on top
maiden carbon
shiny alucard on top
WE are not getting it anyway
i got my first normal alucard on 1.3m
halcyon haven
WE are not getting it anyway
nah IM gonna get it
maiden carbon
i aint getting that anytime soon
halcyon haven
bruh i got 3 shinies from 3 mil iced tea
empty aspen
i need shiny hunter
halcyon haven
😞
maiden carbon
did u summon whilst the event was bugged?
empty aspen
bruh i got 3 shinies from 3 mil iced tea
i got 2 from 1.8m
empty aspen
did u summon whilst the event was bugged?
idk i did it straight away
empty aspen
shiny hei and shiny escanor 🤑
maiden carbon
i need a cosmetic on my shiny ali bro
its so pointless
atp im gonna unshiny him for 5 rrs
empty aspen
do it
halcyon haven
atp im gonna unshiny him for 5 rrs
i might unshiny my 3 shinies
empty aspen
5 chances at monarch 🤷♂️
maiden carbon
when trading is added my shiny ali will be worth approximately 1000 coins
yeah bro im unshinying that shi
i WILL get that yhwach monarch
maiden carbon
i got my first monarch on sjw in like 600
then it took me 60 for kaguya
and now i got escanor in 1000
maiden carbon
and yhwach 700+ spent still going strong
empty aspen
it took me 2.1k rrs on sjw for monarch
maiden carbon
dayum
maiden carbon
i use my sjw only for the element atp lol
nova current
i mainly use my deadeye sjw
monarch betta
halcyon haven
not really
bear 130k off spawn:
empty aspen
rather upg kaguya/escanor
halcyon haven
kaguya just solos everything
i would agree if i had kaguya
i cope when someone says kaguya is better than sjw
halcyon haven
im not pitying her anyway 😭 portals give like 200k every night
empty aspen
bear 130k off spawn:
kaguya tping all over the map with mini full map nukes:
maiden carbon
my only lucky update was 6.5
empty aspen
took me 4-5m for her
empty aspen
dio oh is js a secret?
maiden carbon
dio oh is js a secret?
it was %100 not gonna be a vanguard
we just got one on this upd
halcyon haven
it was %100 not gonna be a vanguard
PLEASE be a grindable vanguard
trust
secret too bad for him
empty aspen
i thought they'd release a vanguard at the very minimum for anniversary
maiden carbon
idk about vanguard but
kazi's character for anniversary is a fate character
he said
from fate grand order i never watched it so idk
we dont know the rest
halcyon haven
kazi's character for anniversary is a fate character
if its saber ima be so happy
like everyone basically has good stuff on saber
halcyon haven
i know
maiden carbon
now that their ccu went up to 70k
watch the berserk upd units be trash
griffith will be meta support
maiden carbon
guts will prob be weaker than leo
empty aspen
power scaling is fucking insane this upd
all the new units are meta
wr prolly best support
💀
empty aspen
PLEASE
maiden carbon
if i was a new player i wouldnt even bother
empty aspen
BUFF MY MONARCH DIEGO!
empty aspen
dino man MUST be POWERFUL!
maiden carbon
portals are harf af
its braindead easy with monarch vsjw
i dont even need to use farmms
halcyon haven
its braindead easy with monarch vsjw
yeah
does anyone know takaroda before av added him?
whatever his real name is
maiden carbon
nah i still dont know who that guy is
empty aspen
portals are harf af
deadass bro like why tf is some stage that you need to do over 1k times that hard?
halcyon haven
nah i still dont know who that guy is
i heard he was some character from mob pshycho or saiki k
or a anime like that
empty aspen
does anyone know takaroda before av added him?
nope, maybe someone from solo leveling but never seen him as far as i remember
maiden carbon
not solo leveling
halcyon haven
deadass bro like why tf is some stage that you need to do over 1k times that har...
revitalize + regen + holy
deep pulsar
i heard he was some character from mob pshycho or saiki k
kill la kill
halcyon haven
😄
halcyon haven
kill la kill
oh
deep pulsar
empty aspen
only weirdos watch it icl
maiden carbon
holy chopped
maiden carbon
how have you not finished attack on titan yet in the big 2025
empty aspen
how have you not finished attack on titan yet in the big 2025
have stopped watching anime in like 2021
and never really bothered watching aot
maiden carbon
new sneak dropped
guts looks peak
griffith too
aa holy form griffith still had better model tho tbh
maiden carbon
and never really bothered watching aot
its like THE anime to watch so u should finish it asap
maiden carbon
was that
empty aspen
EVERYONE fucking died
maiden carbon
ohhh
empty aspen
especially my goat erwin 💔
maiden carbon
did u see any flashbacks yet?
empty aspen
armin aswell
empty aspen
did u see any flashbacks yet?
dont think so?
maiden carbon
dont think so?
in 1-2 eps you will
empty aspen
flash backs of eren eating his dad?
maiden carbon
flash backs of eren eating his dad?
nah its deeper than that
empty aspen
okay
maiden carbon
bcz its pretty confusing
empty aspen
aa holy form griffith still had better model tho tbh
that shit was so majestic
maiden carbon
if ur not really focused
nova current
aa holy form griffith still had better model tho tbh
theres no end to the glaze
empty aspen
theres no end to the glaze
it is better tho
i dont think i've seen any model in any td better than aa's holy griffith model
nova current
empty aspen
who got a better model
empty aspen
if ur not really focused
damn dude my hate grows more and more for those people on mainland
nova current
should've grinded for giselle
"should've grinded 3 hours for one character that wasnt even that good"
unkempt crown
"should've grinded 3 hours for one character that wasnt even that good"
she was good?
smoky pulsar
"shouldve just grinded" is a shit excuse ngl
nova current
lie
unkempt crown
every1 knew she was good
nova current
LIE
nova current
unkempt crown
"shouldve just grinded" is a shit excuse ngl
i feel like they should go the AA route
of making limiteds good
but still having an alternative
like shalltear and power
nova current
we're really talking about AA like they ever did anything good
smoky pulsar
😭
unkempt crown
power was better for cost effectiveness
nova current
games carried by nostalgia and that only lasted them a few months
smoky pulsar
just stop making all the limiteds the best units in the game
nova current
✌️
unkempt crown
and shalltear was better for inf
smoky pulsar
and drop some actual useful non limiteds
aladdin (best cleanse in the game) is limited
unkempt crown
just stop making all the limiteds the best units in the game
iisnt this
smoky pulsar
and ur forced to use orihime
smoky pulsar
or sasuke
smoky pulsar
in general they keep pumping out limiteds
unkempt crown
we're really talking about AA like they ever did anything good
just gonna ignore this
unkempt crown
in general they keep pumping out limiteds
well yeah
smoky pulsar
and theyre all hella good
nova current
just gonna ignore this
500 players right now
unkempt crown
they just need an altenative
nova current
prolly less
nova current
??
i was saying they have no players because theyre dickheads to their playerbase 😭
unkempt crown
i was saying they have no players because theyre dickheads to their playerbase �...
and
im saying to use their method
of adding altneratives that differ slightly
ur just saying "Aa did it so we cant"
because you take roblox as ur fucking life for some reason
nova current
of adding altneratives that differ slightly
they already do but most are objectively worse
unkempt crown
they already do but most are objectively worse
they dont
nova current
and we should stop doing meta limiteds because they keep trying to adding to a trading economy that doesnt even exist
unkempt crown
they havent released a status removal since aladdin
nova current
they havent released a status removal since aladdin
just because i said they do im not saying i mean for every meta limited
unkempt crown
they havent released a summon buff since giselle
unkempt crown
just because i said they do im not saying i mean for every meta limited
they havent done it for any
nova current
they havent done it for any
?
haruka rin we got orihime and armin
the alternative to lucy is medea
the guy that bleeds and slows we got the ackermans
etc
unkempt crown
haruka rin we got orihime and armin
the alternative to lucy is medea
the guy tha...
medea was added before lucy
nova current
but we should just stop with so many limited metas in general
unkempt crown
guy that bleeds and slows isnt replaced, he has a DOT buff
ackermans were just a random unit
the only one u could say is haruka rin
nova current
guy that bleeds and slows isnt replaced, he has a DOT buff
i didnt say he was replaced im listing out alternatives that do similar things
unkempt crown
but the ones u mentioned are just normal buff untis
ok well clearly they arent altneratives
nova current
im saying the alternatives, usually, are objectively worse
unkempt crown
that dos imilar things?
they arent alternatives
if they dont do similar things
none of the ackermans are giving a DOT buff
nova current
they slow and bleed thats the similarity and theyre objectively worse
unkempt crown
an actual alternative would be
slow bleed dot buff at like upgrd 3
but with better aoe to compensate
thats not hard to do
nova current
bro oh my god im just saying examples
obviously all of them arent gonna do the same shit
unkempt crown
ok well clearly they dont work
nova current
what are you talking about
unkempt crown
so ur point is invlaid
unkempt crown
if ur examples suck ass then ur point of "their alternatives arent good" isnt good
unkempt crown
there arent alternatives to limited meta characters
yes
there arent many alternatives
unkempt crown
since they dont add them
nova current
im tired of limiteds
unkempt crown
durrr he realizes my point is ass!!!
nova current
grinding 20 hours for basically required bp units is ass
empty aspen
should've grinded for giselle
life brodie
empty aspen
but still having an alternative
what do you think i asked the devs?
empty aspen
just stop making all the limiteds the best units in the game
louder son🥹
unkempt crown
what do you think i asked the devs?
aye the other guy said it was an ass idea cuz AA did it
empty aspen
and drop some actual useful non limiteds
guess what they dropped this upd? ahyup the BEST support which is WR ✌️ (psss he's a limited)
brazen citrus
guess what they dropped this upd? ahyup the BEST support which is WR ✌️ (psss he...
Wr better support than kaguya 🥀
maiden carbon
grinding 20 hours for basically required bp units is ass
not 1 soul in this game grinds for bp units
the bp literally finishes by itself in like a week
empty aspen
Wr better support than kaguya 🥀
he's the best support in game imo
good shield breaker aswell
empty aspen
aye the other guy said it was an ass idea cuz AA did it
its extremely fucking stupid to have all the meta supports be limiteds
unkempt crown
its extremely fucking stupid to have all the meta supports be limiteds
thats why i asked for alternatives
empty aspen
u js said "should've grinded for giselle" first tho 💔
brazen citrus
he's the best support in game imo
Dont slow bosses byken better🥀
And she wrse than kaguya
empty aspen
b
empty aspen
b