Escanor Antishield Situation

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[golden kestrel]

b

read ts

and star

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[silk kelp]

let ts go 💀

holy fuck

[golden kestrel]

no dude if they wont accept making escanor antishield by default they have to do this

we're acting like vsjw and kaguya cant solo basically everything and a unit supposed to be better than them cant evenget through a simple modifier

[silk kelp]

they dont “have” to do anything

the unit is good

learn how to play games

💀

yea bro make a perfect unit that solos anything and auto upgrades himself

[golden kestrel]

so they promise to give better units but escanor xant even get through shielded enemies?

supposed to solo when burning 5 slots btw

use your brain

[silk kelp]

they said they would powercreep

[golden kestrel]

kaguya and vsjw can solo 90% of the game already

[silk kelp]

and they did

escanor is strong

with an achilles heel

thats how it is

stop spamming stupid suggestions pls

[wary sorrel]

bro its a vanguard 😭

saibao

[silk kelp]

then use them and stop whining

[silk kelp]

and? 💀

[golden kestrel]

so kaguya being better is ok for u?

[silk kelp]

yes

[wary sorrel]

bro is not actually applicable for any comp gamemode besides tournaments

[silk kelp]

who said escanor has to be the best vanguard

[golden kestrel]

are you dumb?

[silk kelp]

its all situational

[silk kelp]

ok?

use the unit for what its good for LMAO

[wary sorrel]

yea like what?

[golden kestrel]

a vanguard should not have an "achilles heel" for such a vommon modifier

[wary sorrel]

placing him in legend stage act 2 bullshit?

[silk kelp]

idk the rest of the game?

[golden kestrel]

burning 5 slots = make him solo

right?

[wary sorrel]

yea why would i use him if he is not needed for comp modes

[golden kestrel]

thats his purpose

[wary sorrel]

he is not needed for prog

[golden kestrel]

am i not right

[silk kelp]

for how strong he is its fine

[silk kelp]

no

[golden kestrel]

then what is it

cmon tell me

[silk kelp]

thats just an option

are u even trying to think

[golden kestrel]

an option to make him a solo unit

[silk kelp]

u have the option to run him solo

or with a team

[golden kestrel]

YES

[silk kelp]

which is effectively better

[golden kestrel]

that's exactly what im saying

but whats the point of burning

[silk kelp]

yeah..

[golden kestrel]

if he cant get throught that

[silk kelp]

so why are u acting like u have to run him solo in non optimal conditions

[golden kestrel]

that's why I'm saying he should antishield when burning 5 slots

[silk kelp]

💀

[golden kestrel]

not by default

[wary sorrel]

he should have at least reduced costs with burnt slots

[silk kelp]

if hes anti shield when burning 5 slots then that completely defeats the incentive to run him with a team

because then he can solo everything

💀💀💀💀💀

cant be real

[wary sorrel]

he is not soloing WL or tourneys

[silk kelp]

we need a suggestions blacklist asap

[silk kelp]

who is soloing tourney

[golden kestrel]

it literally doesn't

yhwach rift for example

you need to bring luce or merlin

[silk kelp]

no

u dont

lmao

[golden kestrel]

yes you do

if you're using only escanor

wtf

[silk kelp]

yhwach loses his invulnerability at certain points in the path

have u ever played the game

😭😭

[golden kestrel]

and then regains it

meaning he can leave range and still have hp

[silk kelp]

u can kill him before he regains it

u have more than enough time

just idk

strategize!

?

[golden kestrel]

depends on the unit

you dumass

[silk kelp]

no

dumbass

if u have strong enough units to get to the last wave

[golden kestrel]

yes it does and escanor having high spa makes it so that he cant kill in time

[silk kelp]

u should be able to kill him before he regains it

[silk kelp]

bro

he literally has his ultimate and nuke ability

ur just saying shit

😭

escanor literally clears cid raid act 2 solo in 4:20 seconds

i think hes fine bro

[golden kestrel]

1.1m dmg w ulti
7 spa
4m dmg nuke

vs

20m hp boss
which has immunity for a set of time
and can do dmg for a short amount of time

you need to bring luce or merlin if you're going to use only escanor

but thats fine

[silk kelp]

yes bro

[golden kestrel]

because yk what?

thats the only boss in the game that does that

[silk kelp]

ignore rhat he burns everyone in range with ulti

not to mention burn when they leave his range

either way

hes fine

[golden kestrel]

so we dont complain about that.

but a common modifier which is present almost everywhere, and escanor not being able to solo against it is a problem

end of story for fucks sake

[silk kelp]

u can also just…idk not run him solo in rift??

ok

just dont run him solo

stop crying

💀

[golden kestrel]

are you dumb?

i never said i would

in rifts

because its one gamemode thats that hard

so if soloing with escanor i have no problem in bringing luce

but i do have a problem if i wanna solo against a common modifier

use you brain

thank you

[silk kelp]

then…

dont solo

why are u trying to solo it

anyways

if its so easy

so…

you know a unit is weak to something…so u still try to bruteforce and use him solo in that situation

[golden kestrel]

my pov right now: talking to a wall

[silk kelp]

sure

[golden kestrel]

escanor having a flaw to a mechanic reserved for 1-2 gamemodes: okay, not a problem

escanor having a flaw against a common modifier which is present everywhere even when burning 5 slots which is supposed to make him the strongest soloer: BIG NONO

that hard to understand

use your brain cells maybe

i mean atleast the ones that you have left

[silk kelp]

alr

lets have escanor break bypass shields

and then what

u can solo everything

why use any other unit

[golden kestrel]

no lmao

atp i could say i solo everything with kaguya

[silk kelp]

[golden kestrel]

then what

oh yeah i forgot

shes weak to only some gamemodes

but still not weak to such a common modifier

[silk kelp]

but does kaguya auto upg herself

and is zero cost

😭

[golden kestrel]

like that matters alot lmao

if you bring 2 farms

and only kaguya

[silk kelp]

“like that matters a lot”

[golden kestrel]

you're soloing

[silk kelp]

😭

ok

but shes not auto upgrading herself

or free

[golden kestrel]

you get the same amount of money

[silk kelp]

and doing 200k dmg on placement

[golden kestrel]

escanor becomes upg 15 at wave 15

and with kaguya and 2 farms you have even more money left

[silk kelp]

complaining cuz u cant just be brainless thru the entire game

W life bro W life

someone close this suggestion

[golden kestrel]

like that matters if she does 50k+ and solo every early enemy

[silk kelp]

its like the 10th escanor suggestion

[golden kestrel]

its different my guy

i tried to balance it further

but yeah lets ignore that

[silk kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/jaylin-williams-sga-shai-gilgeous-alexander-shai-aura-shai-gif-7171357864293146248

[golden kestrel]

woohooo! kaguya being better than a unit supposed to be better than her is alright

200 iq moments

[silk kelp]

nice

w assumption

[golden kestrel]

assumption?

its not

[silk kelp]

sure

[golden kestrel]

its a fact

[silk kelp]

w fact

[golden kestrel]

acting like she isnt top 2 while escanor top 4

not ranked by me btw

she tps which makes her even more op

but yeah lets ignore that

[silk kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/mbappe-bla-bla-bla-keep-talking-gif-5585421372457230080

[golden kestrel]

right

[deft siren]

People saying not needed when he solos cid raid act 2 in 4 minutes

Not needed but he really improves your times in stages

[west hamlet]

Your truly a max lvl keyboard worrior

Lol

Why do you care so much twin

[silk kelp]

you’ve pinged me so many times

when im not even talking to u

[west hamlet]

No I didn't

[silk kelp]

😂

im good bro

im good

[west hamlet]

Your making me laugh ngl

Everywhere I go

I find you screaming

And begging

Not to be buffed

Didn't you say you don't care?

[golden kestrel]

players: we want escanor to break shields!
players opposing this: NO! big no no because he would solo everything if he can antishield

VSJW: non existent

av players are so dumb istg

[golden kestrel]

goat ❤️

[west hamlet]

Peak comedi

[deft siren]

Vsjw is one of the reasons the playercount of this game dropped so much

Hes so broken that you dont need anything else

[hallow sinew]

Ppl acting like giving multi hit is gonna make him too broken, when in reality you legit have to sacrifice and burn your whole team just for him to not even be able to pass sand village

[deft siren]

Then dont burn

And bring one of the many multi hit units this game has

[hallow sinew]

So make one of his favored passive useless 100% 💔

[deft siren]

In only like 10% of the cases yes

For 90% of the game u can still burn the slots

[hallow sinew]

That’s your opinion, stat wise that update was one of the better update the game had

[deft siren]

And then everything went downhill as updates passed and vsjw wasnt even struggling at stages

[hallow sinew]

Most ppl I seen agreed that vsjw was one of the best thing the game added (a quest vanguard)

[hallow sinew]

That has nothing to do with vsjw, it’s the fact that the new unit were too bad

Sure you can blame vsjw if you want but don’t act like it isn’t cuz of the unit in the past 3 update (beside kaguya) being almost all mid

“Old unit were good and actually really worth grinding for, the new unit are all either super conditional or mid, but sure let’s blame the old unit for being actually good and not the new unit for being too conditional and mid” 💔

[golden kestrel]

lmao

yeah we want better units

av devs add units that are ranked lower than current units: here's your wanted "powercreep"

i think devs took powercreep as more damage

not as better

then the same players that asked for "powecreep" are ok with such a strong unit have such a flaw against a common modifier

[hallow sinew]

Damage are good powercreep it's just that the weakness is too much

It contradict his own passive

Shield literally counter him hard

Like counter his burn/100% damage passive/revival/nuke

Sure he's still "good"

[wide sierra]

This like

[hallow sinew]

But you have vsjw here from 3 update ago being better overall than him

[wide sierra]

the 10th suggestion

[hallow sinew]

It is

[wide sierra]

where is the guy that spam memes

[hallow sinew]

Idk

[hallow sinew]

Saying this as someone with monarch on vsjw

[golden kestrel]

yes but
powecreep ≠ more dmg
iit should be:
powercreep = overall better

[golden kestrel]

im sorry but mine is a bit different, and if there are 10 different suggestions then all the more reason for devs to sctually listen
because theres a very good reason to implement this

[golden kestrel]

"yes guys we'll give you better units worth grinding for"

absolutely ridicolous

[hallow sinew]

Fr

[golden kestrel]

the fact that even a tester doesnt agree with these suggestions is ridicolous

[hallow sinew]

Like I love vsjw and all but him being better than a vanguard that is like 4 update newer is actually crazy

[dense sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401672532196724786/1403159995356287058/image.png?ex=68988454&is=689732d4&hm=80a11e0ab4f73c70d00a3e7d5a9bc6c1fdce14d10931557fa7470392ca7a3b32&

please buff him

[golden kestrel]

example of brainless av player:

[hallow sinew]

Like ain’t even asking for a damage buff, just asking for multi hit

[dense sigil]

how is that brainless

please elaborate

[golden kestrel]

because you think that cid is everything

[hallow sinew]

Bro cid doesn’t have shield does it?

😭

Like be fr

Cid stands still and let you hit him

[golden kestrel]

being able to do a stage in 4:30 minutes but not being able to solo other gamemodes which contain a modifier that isnt a flaw to previous unit is ok

[dense sigil]

ok so cid is one of the most important/hardest stages in the game to complete multiple times

the person who actually made escanor said what otter said earlier, escanor is incredibly strong in some circumstances, bad for others

that’s the entire point of his kit, he’s better in later game content, who cares if he can’t do fucking sand village? When are you doing that outside of the odd challenge or bounty?

[golden kestrel]

do you know how common shielded is buddy?
its almost everywhere
and you think that being able to solo fast that stage makes escanor good

[hallow sinew]

Btw even Jin more can do this so ig we have worldline better than vanguard now? (Not complaining bout mori here”

[dense sigil]

no it’s not what are you saying 😭

[golden kestrel]

sand village?

only

[dense sigil]

and like one of the gg bosses

[golden kestrel]

yeah right

[hallow sinew]

He can’t even solo the new summer portal bro….

[dense sigil]

tell me a hard stages that uses shields

[dense sigil]

depends on the modifiers

[hallow sinew]

He couldn’t even solo the tier 1 summer portal

Cuz boss has 30 shield

Can’t even solo his own portal at tier 1

[dense sigil]

it’s a modifier

is Jin mori bad if you use him in LOTG

since his damage goes to 0

so he’s shit right

your not supposed to place 1 unit and win

[hallow sinew]

Why yall so against him becoming multi hit? Why not advocate for sjw to get nerf or kaguya nerf then

[dense sigil]

every match

[golden kestrel]

escanor should have powercrept previous units, and he did that on dmg.
we all asked for it and we're okay about that but he cant be weak to such a modifier.

[dense sigil]

atp they can’t nerf sjw or kaguya really

and before you say that they did

[hallow sinew]

Damage drain is also stupid so i don’t get your point

[rain jungle]

Instead of ‘anti shield’ just make him do burn dmg to shields

[golden kestrel]

vsjw doesnt have one single flaw btw

[dense sigil]

beast explosion’s nerf was barely an issue and didn’t change her spot at all

[hallow sinew]

I ain’t asking for a nerf here

I am saying

[dense sigil]

I know that, but he’s going to in the future when they start scaling hp harder

rn there’s not really hard content

but that’ll change soon

[hallow sinew]

If you so against escanor having multi hit why not complain about other unit being op?

I ain’t complaining about vsjw or kaguya here

You just don’t understand my pt do you?

[dense sigil]

because he doesn’t need it and kaguya and vsjw can’t auto upgrade themselves

• sec

1

[golden kestrel]

vsjw can solo almost everything.if not everything with the right strategy.

escanor cant

[hallow sinew]

Here’s the thing

Escanor only upgrade himself if he burn every slot

[golden kestrel]

and auto upgrade isnt even all that btw

[hallow sinew]

So you basically offering everything other unit for him to solo

[dense sigil]

here’s your answer to this entire post

he’s not gonna get multi hit

[golden kestrel]

why grt escanor if you have vsjw

[hallow sinew]

They also said they weren’t gonna add unit pity back then btw

Look now

[golden kestrel]

oh right they didnt think about that did they

[hallow sinew]

Why get escanor if you have kaguya or sjw

[dense sigil]

different things completely

pity and buffing a unit to make him amazing in all stages

[hallow sinew]

This post apples for the last 2 vanguard beside escanor

[dense sigil]

totally the same

[dense sigil]

because sjw isn’t dealing enough dps to deal with eclipse enemies

yall gotta realize is that he’s made for hard content like valk said

not shielded sand enemies

also you never answered my question

[hallow sinew]

But vsjw is still best unit overall is he not??

[dense sigil]

what hard stage uses shields

[sick yacht]

Funny thing is this is such an easy ass weakness to deal with compared to energy drain and what not

[hallow sinew]

By your logic if the weakness isn’t even a big weakness why not remove it completely?

[wide sierra]

apparently naruto

[dense sigil]

not overall I’d say kaguya & yhwach are better but yeah he’s top 3

[wide sierra]

we should make yhwach vanguard

[dense sigil]

because he’s not supposed to be a 1 man army that takes out every stage what

[hallow sinew]

I don’t get your pt here then, if the weakness only apply’s for weak stage like you said anyways why not remove it then?

[sick yacht]

Nah

[dense sigil]

because shields might be added to harder content later on?

[sick yacht]

Yhwach is top 1

[hallow sinew]

That’s is literally his whole passive

[sick yacht]

Vsjw is 2

[dense sigil]

also you want him to break shields for what

💔

[sick yacht]

Kaguya is 3

Escanor is 4 probably

[wide sierra]

You have a choice to use it or not

[dense sigil]

his passive is to be a one man army yeah, but why would I get any other unit if he could solo every stage

I’m so confused

[sick yacht]

Its half of 1 passive

[dense sigil]

do you want 1 unit to solo the whole game

[wide sierra]

if you know a stage has shield why tf would you burn all your units

use common sense

[sick yacht]

It is not even close to being the full passive

[eternal tangle]

Tbh only problem with escanor is the nuke it should bypass nukes and only the nuke tbh no stupid anti shield and stuff

[merry citrus]

otter is AFK: AFK - an hour ago

[golden kestrel]

okay so
vsjw is overall better than escanor right now
i dont think that was what the devs meant right?
or what ppl wanted

[wide sierra]

and besides

[sick yacht]

They clearly meant for it to happen

[golden kestrel]

didnt we literally ask for current units to be powercrept?

[dense sigil]

still dodging my question about what stage uses shields that’s hard

btw

[wide sierra]

escanor can clear cid act 2 in like

4 mins

[dense sigil]

sjw is better overall, but escanor outclasses him in actual hard content

[hallow sinew]

You answered your own question didn’t you?

[sick yacht]

They realized they made vsjw too strong and dont wanna make every vanguard have a kit with so little weaknesses

[hallow sinew]

You said “future hard content might have shielded enemy”

[golden kestrel]

portals, story which has shields

[dense sigil]

NOT THE SAND VILLAGE

[sick yacht]

Portals and hard content

[dense sigil]

NOOOO

[sick yacht]

Ight bruh

[dense sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/yhwach-yuha-baha-moustache-the-almighty-quincy-gif-26876977

[golden kestrel]

OH RIGHT!

[eternal tangle]

Im doing portals with escanor rn and im winning just fine

[golden kestrel]

SAND VILLAGE IS THE ONLY ONE

OHH HOW COULD I FORGET

[dense sigil]

I think the hardest shielded enemy is levi

[golden kestrel]

PLESSE FORGIVE ME MASTER

[dense sigil]

right?

[sick yacht]

Wins everything besides shielded yeah

[hallow sinew]

Then why not nerf vsjw ? You saying they realized that yet decided to make newer unit worse instead of nerfing the top op unit?

[wide sierra]

So when’s the next escanor buff suggestion

[eternal tangle]

Yea true

[hallow sinew]

Personally I think vsjw was fine

[dense sigil]

maybe one of the bosses in GG ex has shields I forgot

[sick yacht]

Why not nerf vsjw...?

[golden kestrel]

try shielded modifier

[sick yacht]

Are you trolling

[golden kestrel]

anyways

[wide sierra]

why would he

[golden kestrel]

even staffs ranked vsjw and Kaguya higher than escanor

[sick yacht]

Someone wants to turn the entire community against the game

[wide sierra]

if he knows he single hit

[eternal tangle]

Hell nah why would i choose smth that effects me worse when i can choose the same stage without it

[dense sigil]

people would complain a lot is the first reason, sjw is better than him on the tier list imo because of how versatile sjw is

sjw can shine on any stage, but escanor where escanor is good can outclass all units

[eternal tangle]

Its just basic strategies

[dense sigil]

please tell me what unit can do cid in 4:30

besides escanor

[sick yacht]

All units besides yhwach

[dense sigil]

that’s the point and how valk made him

[wide sierra]

we need to stop glazing yhwach and start glazing diego

[golden kestrel]

oh my god escanor finishes cid in 4:30 minutes hes the best unit in the game

[hallow sinew]

Please tell me what vanguard can solo sand village beside escanor 💔

[eternal tangle]

Only problem i see with escanor is his nuke

[wide sierra]

thats literally

strong ad

af

💀

[sick yacht]

Me when i have 0 reading comprehension

[dense sigil]

cid is hard content
he’s good in hard content

that’s his point

[hallow sinew]

Yall acting like giving him multi hit is gonna kill the unit or smt

[golden kestrel]

one stage

[sick yacht]

Clears cid, rifts, most portals.

[dense sigil]

your also saying shields are a major issue like shields are in every match

[sick yacht]

Dk what you think hard content is

Vsjw or kaguya dont solo gg ex4 either, fyi

[hallow sinew]

If it’s not a major issue why not just remove it then

[dense sigil]

ngl

think bro is baiting 💔

has to be atp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1321366124289331232/1351739055909376093/crescentok_society_is_a_lie_the_government_is_corrupt_nothing_is_real_the_schools_are_bribed_pigeons_are_fake.gif

[hallow sinew]

They adding a weakness that doesn’t even need to be added by your logic?

[eternal tangle]

Not just one he is still good in others without shields or low amount of shielded enemies, he isn't supposed to destroy everything and be the best

[sick yacht]

"Buff the 250k peak dps unit more because yeah"

[hallow sinew]

“Y’all are baiting” acting like you didn’t come into this post yourself to discuss this

[eternal tangle]

There was never any wym

[golden kestrel]

all I'm saying is they shouldnt give weakness to a common modifier.

i get that they could give him a weakness to a rarer modifier or something else

but not shielded

[sick yacht]

Yeah he should be weak to energy drain instead fr

[hallow sinew]

Btw shield also counter his nuke and his burn passive and his 100% damage passive when enemy get out of his range

[eternal tangle]

That wouldmt even workfr

[hallow sinew]

Energy drain is stupid to begin with

[golden kestrel]

oh no!
making him antishield would make him sooooooo OP and broken

[storm oak]

Lets fill this suggestion with escanor memes

[sick yacht]

Yeah, burn doesnt work on shield, we know this.

[sick yacht]

Yeah it literally fucking would he would solo every stage in the game besides ex stages

[sick yacht]

*agenda

[golden kestrel]

like vsjw and kaguya cant do that

lol

[sick yacht]

They literally dont dumbass not when you dont even use farms

[eternal tangle]

Well duh he does 1 million damage does burn if u are about to loose he pushes them back he can also attack when they leave his range if he gets anti shield he would juet be the best unit in game for a VERY long time

[sick yacht]

Like what

[storm oak]

(and)

[sick yacht]

Bring kaguya without an unknown element unit to lotg see how it goesn

[hallow sinew]

Bro yall are saying his sheild weakness only applies in weak stage yet say that him not having thw weakness will make him too op???? Where’s the logic here??

[golden kestrel]

farms + unit = solo

[sick yacht]

It will make him able to solo everything

[golden kestrel]

burning 5 slots is meant for him to solo

[sick yacht]

Okay solo lotg with just kaguya and farms

No vsjw

[golden kestrel]

??? what

[hallow sinew]

I burned 5 unit for him to solo 💔

[golden kestrel]

lotg?

[sick yacht]

Land of the gods

[hallow sinew]

Land of the god

[golden kestrel]

oh

[storm oak]

Bro just one shot buu and they still complaining

[golden kestrel]

i dont have kaguya currently

[sick yacht]

It applies in a lot of stages, but you can simply use units to break shield for him in a lot of content and be fine. Giving him the ability to clear everything in the game as the only unit on the team is stupid.

[storm oak]

Noone obligate you to use escanor only anyways

[sick yacht]

Exactly

[golden kestrel]

YES but burning 5 slots becomes pointless

[storm oak]

Like noone use yhwach buff

[sick yacht]

Its 1/2 of 1 of his passives

[eternal tangle]

How he is free to place and gets upgraded every wave

[sick yacht]

Dont burn all slots in all stages

Simple

[eternal tangle]

Plus the push back passive

[golden kestrel]

and strong units = updates with strong stages
donf yall know this?

if he is strong

and new units are strong

the stages from the new updates will be harder

based on them

[sick yacht]

No unit is matching him at his peak, they cannot balance stages with escanor in mind

[oak frigate]

ooga booga i cant afk the entire stage to win ooga booga grrr

[golden kestrel]

so soloing them wont be a thing. its just for now

[sick yacht]

Think before you speak please

[golden kestrel]

are you dumb?

[sick yacht]

It will be thing buddy theyre not balancing stages with the 250k dps unit in mind

[golden kestrel]

you think escanor is the only one

[sick yacht]

Are you????

[oak frigate]

???

[golden kestrel]

lets wait for berserker

[sick yacht]

Holy shit youre fucking stupid

[golden kestrel]

upd

[storm oak]

4 mins in cid raid isnt enough for me i want more🗣️ 🔥

[sick yacht]

Berserker.

Ight.

[eternal tangle]

I mean jin mori kinda is imo insane dps maybe not better then escanor but still he the closest

[oak frigate]

me want afk all stages ooga booga

[storm oak]

I wan to become🥭 king!!!

[golden kestrel]

holy fucking shit
they said they're gonna powercreep almost every update right?
do you guys think the stages will be as easy as they are now

spoiler

[sick yacht]

Yeah but jin mori has other faults, not being immune to anything for 1, being more expensive than escanor for 2. His average dps is actually higher than escanor's even bjt that doesnt make him a better unit.

[oak frigate]

give #1403787124507148461 a star ooga booga

[golden kestrel]

they wont

[storm oak]

Sr buddy i hate that too

[eternal tangle]

Yea true

[oak frigate]

please bro

i ran out of fortune catalysts for cid

[deft siren]

What? YOu telling me i need more towers instead of one

[eternal tangle]

😭🙏🏻 im dead

[sick yacht]

How dare they...

[golden kestrel]

dummy
burning 5 slots is meant to make him solo

[eternal tangle]

Not every stage 😭🙏🏻

[storm oak]

Who said that

[eternal tangle]

Everyone has its uses

[oak frigate]

"my unit wont play the game for me im so mad"

bro

[wide sierra]

It is solo

[storm oak]

Not everyone but ye some kind of it

[wide sierra]

but see you have a thing called a brain

to know what map has shield

and not

[storm oak]

I havent seen diavolo's usage

[eternal tangle]

Yea but u get the idea

[oak frigate]

the entire point of shields is to counter dumb shit like this
if you want it THAT BADLY then just keep him at upgrade 13

???

[sick yacht]

Mb gang i forgot that escanor only has 1 passive and that he forces you to burn all units and its not optional 🙏

[eternal tangle]

Real if im correct he still pretty dope and broken

[golden kestrel]

holy fucking shit i might be dumb but youre dumber

[sick yacht]

If youve accepted youre dumb you cant be the judge of that so yeah

Youre just saying shit anyway

[wide sierra]

This map has shield

burns all unit

[golden kestrel]

i didnt say it forces you but if burning 5 slots was meant to make him solo he should solo

[wide sierra]

is surprised

[oak frigate]

its meant to make him solo most stages.... with limitations....

[sick yacht]

You, THE PLAYER, isnt supposed to burn 5 slots on all maps.

[eternal tangle]

It isnt made for him to solo everything 😭🙏🏻

[storm oak]

Noone say mean to solo everything

[hallow sinew]

Nobody said
This btw, pt is if burning is supposed to make him a solo then he should be able to solo? No?

[golden kestrel]

IT SHOULDNT SOLO EVERYTHING LMAO

[wide sierra]

Oml bro

[golden kestrel]

AND I NEVER SAID THAT

[oak frigate]

is that so arbitrary that you're unable to comprehend it

[oak frigate]

ragebait of doom

[sick yacht]

We're all actively falling for it

[eternal tangle]

Omg bro 😭🙏🏻

[wide sierra]

We must stop him

[hallow sinew]

You are actively choosing to come here and complain about being rage bait

[golden kestrel]

can he solo rifts

[sick yacht]

Yes?

[wide sierra]

yes

[hallow sinew]

Actually he prob could

[wide sierra]

lol

[golden kestrel]

ynwach

[storm oak]

He can lol there alr a video

[eternal tangle]

Idk

[golden kestrel]

yhwach

[sick yacht]

He does ive tested it kekw

[wide sierra]

placement

where the hell are you placing escanor bro

[sick yacht]

He solos yhwach yeah

[golden kestrel]

alright i thought that he couldnt kill in time because of spa

but for example

[eternal tangle]

Dope now i can grind it too

[golden kestrel]

imagine a yhwach like boss gets added

[storm oak]

Can he one shot yhwach

[golden kestrel]

with more hp

[hallow sinew]

Only with monarch tho but still op

[golden kestrel]

he wont be able to solo

[eternal tangle]

Thats a horroble argument

[golden kestrel]

right

[hallow sinew]

Okay so why are yall against him being multi hit anyways?

[golden kestrel]

please shut up for a second

[eternal tangle]

If he gets more hp witch he doesn't unless the devs change kt

[golden kestrel]

you'll need to bring more units, and thats ok

[hallow sinew]

Will it ruin your life? Or ruin the game? Yall don’t be complaing about his 200k dps

[storm oak]

Nothing could stop him if he had that so

[hallow sinew]

I mean vsjw and kaguya does almost the same

[storm oak]

No?

[hallow sinew]

Overall vsjw and kaguya is still better

[eternal tangle]

Eh they need a lil help if im sure

[oak frigate]

this is like complaining that yhwach cant solo a rift without turning every slot into a rare unit with 6/5 placement

[eternal tangle]

It depends on the stage

[storm oak]

Vsjw is very weak with many paths and kaguya domain ui pmo

[golden kestrel]

im saying that being weak to such a modifier is dumb.
not being able to solo against some hard stages which were meant to be hard and not soloable is okay, i would never ask for him to be able to solo as that's just unfair

[eternal tangle]

Real

[oak frigate]

escanor is pure dps who can get support from hibana/kaguya/quetz/anybody who benefits fire, vsjw and kaguya are more support/utility

[golden kestrel]

you get it?

[hallow sinew]

Also if escanor passive is only gonna be weak to weak stage then why not remove it then

It’s more of an inconvenience than a nerf

[eternal tangle]

U just said not being able to solo hard stages witch is wrong cuzz HE SOLOS CID EX RAID 😭🙏🏻

[golden kestrel]

i said that he should not do that, and by that i meant next hard stages

[sick yacht]

Bro shield is the most non issue modi to be weak to, like literally.

[oak frigate]

stop interacting with this scrub 😭

[golden kestrel]

which will definitely make it so escanore alone wont solo somehow

[hallow sinew]

My pt is if shield is so non issue why not just not remove that weakness to begin with

😭

[storm oak]

Why dont u use escanor with other units then

[eternal tangle]

Real

[hallow sinew]

Like yall are saying “it doesn’t kill to bring another unit to break shield” basically, and I am saying “shield isn’t gonna be in hard stages anyways so why not just not make him weak to it anyway?”

[hallow sinew]

Why not just not make weak to shield then

[sick yacht]

Because it does stop him from being able to clear stages as the only unit on the team. It becomes a non issue when youre using other units.

[hallow sinew]

If I can just bring a rare killu to break shield then why not just remove it

[sick yacht]

Because with a rare killua youre not auto upgrading him and placing him for free

[hallow sinew]

No but as
Most of yall are saying, shield only exist in a lot of the weaker stages where you won’t even need a farm either way

[eternal tangle]

Yea but when u burn all 5 then uccant use him the argument that the other dude js saying is that burning all 5 unit

[storm oak]

And increase his dps to heaven

[hallow sinew]

Okay here’s my pt

[golden kestrel]

holy fucking shit
players are against making a unit that is supposed to be better NOT have a flaw against such a modifier
but they're ok with vsjw soloing everything for months

[storm oak]

We actually need in wl anyways

I dont want to see that fucking escanor gatekeep wl

[golden kestrel]

and I'm the dumb one

for fucks sake

[deft siren]

They recognized this already

[eternal tangle]

Sjw cant solo rifts cod raids and other stuff

[deft siren]

What do you want them to do? Nerf vsjw?

[storm oak]

Whats the matter of weather if your unit immunes to bullshits, has nuke, huge dps, dot dmg, auto upgrade

[eternal tangle]

Plus push back passive

[hallow sinew]

1. Y’all are saying shield is only a problem in weak stages like sand village and etc
2. But since sand village is so weak he doesn’t even need to upgrade to beat it
3. So the shield only make him an incovinence not even a weakness
4. His shield weakness doesn’t make him any less “marco free” since it only require you to bring 1 extra unit to break shield in the “weak stage” that require shield

Also my message delayed cuz wifi

[trail rover]

This debate is so fucking stupid 😭

[golden kestrel]

??? no lmao
i want escanor to not have weakness to shields

[hallow sinew]

I understand that escanor is op don’t get me wrong

[ember peak]

escanor is just a worse yhwach

[golden kestrel]

and that's what he was meant to be btw

[eternal tangle]

Nope i tried to solo with escanor and i lost even with push back passive

[hallow sinew]

I just don’t see why they even bother adding the weakness tho

[eternal tangle]

He cant solo ot

[hallow sinew]

If he can’t solo sandvillage with a shield break you just suck man

😭

[storm oak]

Cuz we had complaint about ts when kaguya first appear

She is too fucking broken

[hallow sinew]

Who is “we” 💔

Okay brb

Got lunch

[storm oak]

And vsjw was the reason why tournament got reworked but seem fine cuz he is a quest vanguard

[hallow sinew]

Have a good day I will be back in an hour or smt

Cya

[eternal tangle]

Idk man the spa and not being able to multi hit and plus those destroyed puppets regening forms makes it impossible

[storm oak]

Kaguya was why we got pity

[deft siren]

Tell yhwach to solo aot or cid in -5 minutes then

[storm oak]

And vsjw was why tournament is stupid like this

[hallow sinew]

Very simple, you don’t upgrade him at first and save some cash to replace

[eternal tangle]

Tried kt it doesn't work dude i tried every single possible thing

Only thing that gives it a shot is the upgrade 9

[ember peak]

tell escanor to solo sand village act 1

[eternal tangle]

When he multy hits but when u burn all 5 it is hard

[slender linden]

i have a simple solution for this

[eternal tangle]

Just use other units fr

[golden kestrel]

ngl imma leave this here
if devs have a solution to shields, like maybe 2 hits instead of one or something else they're free to do that
but honestly they can do wtv they want

im tired

[slender linden]

when you burn all 5 slots escanor gets unknown element full aoe aa passive combined with og astd escanor passive and he does 20 hit full aoe

[deft siren]

Then close it

[slender linden]

no cap

its unlimited

[eternal tangle]

Ur cooking hard fr

[golden kestrel]

atp he should summon too

[golden kestrel]

no lmao

[golden kestrel]

just cuz u told me to

[eternal tangle]

He should just give free monarchs at this point

[golden kestrel]

im leaving it open

[deft siren]

Yeah sure

[hallow sinew]

Okay nice

At least we had a not heated conclusion

[oak frigate]

delete ts 🔥

[hallow sinew]

Once saw a suggestion end with a guy being called some cool looking slur

[golden kestrel]

honestly i think im gonna edit this

gotta be more clear

because i never wanted escanor to solo gamemodes such as rifts and solo cid in 4 minutes. its not surprising he can because we wanted powecreep, but yeah

[oak frigate]

if you make him bypass shields hes doing exactly this 🤣

[golden kestrel]

dummy example

he should be able to solo normal content.
not stages which were meant to not be soloable

yes he should be better than current units, do more damage

but not solo

imma make this my suggestion

[oak frigate]

so nerf his damage and give him shield break? yeah just no

[golden kestrel]

???

no lol

[oak frigate]

what do you propose

[golden kestrel]

just watch my edited suggestion

wait a sec

basically next VERY HARD "not meant to be soloable" stages should have a mechanic that requires full team

so basically escanor should be able to solo normal/mid/hard content but not gamemodes which their purpose is to not be soloable

get it?

[silk kelp]

why

other nukes also get countered by shield

except maybe sjw cuz his is multihit

[eternal tangle]

Oh i thought every nuke bypassed

[golden kestrel]

Escanor Antishield Situation

[oak frigate]

bro just delete this already

[golden kestrel]

oh no drainalyse
said to delete my suggestion
what should i do?

[sick yacht]

You should delete it, that's what.

[golden kestrel]

9 people who disagree vs 30 people who agree yea i dont think so

[deft siren]

Hive minds + the greed of self benefit to have the unit which can destroy in 100% of the situations

Check the gojo poll for example

They know sukuna and obito needed it more

Yet here we are

[eternal tangle]

Fr

[hallow sinew]

Obito deserved one but sukuna probably getting it instead

[heady vector]

Another escanor suggestion

[golden kestrel]

I GOT.MONARCH ON HIM

SHUT UP YALL

I DONT CARE

LETS GO

[queen timber]

The switchup

[golden kestrel]

no like i still want him to antishield

[dense sigil]

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