i feel like jin mori should be imune to stun/debuffs

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[marble jolt]

This is

definitely a no

😭

I’m sorry

[stable torrent]

jinmori is boddied by debuffers

and stuns

so is escanor

it basically nukes all their useability

[neat cedar]

Correct

Which is why he's not going to be immune

Because immunity shouldn't just be thrown onto things

[stable torrent]

cid is imune

[neat cedar]

Jin is just a big beatstick of pure dps who lacks in early game and has very little in the way of passives. His clones don't even have any

[neat cedar]

Correct. And he was balanced with having that strength in mind.

He's only immune to debuffs as lord of shadows, as well

[stable torrent]

i just feel jin mori should be stun immune at minimum

[copper sun]

but why tho

he already has the highest potential dps in the game

[stable torrent]

because most bosses stun now

and theres things like explosion and quake that stun him

[copper sun]

thats exactly why he isnt stun immune

[marble jolt]

He is holy

[copper sun]

also yea

[stable torrent]

still stunned.

yall gonna say ywatch is fair?

[marble jolt]

they know yhwach isnt fair

[copper sun]

no he isnt

[stable torrent]

full aoe massive range and cant be stunned

[copper sun]

so why would we keep making units like him

[marble jolt]

everyone do

even the devs do

😭

[stable torrent]

jin mori is limited as well

[copper sun]

if it were up to the balancer yhwach would get nerfed
but its too late for that and ppl would riot

[copper sun]

so he needs a buff?

[opal cloak]

he has unknown as smith john tho

[inner tree]

Yeah but john smith was never the highest dps in the game

[marble jolt]

john smith

[stable torrent]

he is because john smith has inf stacking damage

[inner tree]

Holy element is already good enough

[marble jolt]

Mori is fine

[strong tendon]

let's make the highest dps in game even better

[stable torrent]

you say that like escanor doesnt burn for 1.3mil

😕

[marble jolt]

Mori got big potential

if they add more categories

[stable torrent]

you can have a max of 4.

[neat cedar]

Yes. Which is why he was balanced with that in mind

[stable torrent]

farms dont count

and jin mori doesnt count to him self

[stable torrent]

and unless your running inf with no farms you will only get 30% damage buff

if your doing inf with no farms you get 40-50% idk how catagories over lap

[marble jolt]

this with buuhan, ymir and ishtar

tho nobody uses buu

im the first buu user

[loud shadow]

Ain’t no one using Ishtar ✌️

[stable torrent]

see no one runs ishtar buu or ymir

maybe ymir for the rumbling

but never other wise

[marble jolt]

so true

we need another fate upd

for ishtar

[stable torrent]

and his main placement is the only one that gets it.

his clones do max 150k

[marble jolt]

i tried using him in rumbling

some reason I couldn’t spawn his clones

[stable torrent]

and he loses 50% range from the collasoal

[marble jolt]

ima test it again today

[loud shadow]

Some maps are bugged with clone placement

[marble jolt]

can we make ishtar meta

❤️

[stable torrent]

idk i did it when i first got him on all the sandbox maps and they just didnt place period

but since then they seem to work

unlike jinwoos summons

[loud shadow]

She has the curse of being a limited unit

[stable torrent]

they still spawn at the front of his range for me

[marble jolt]

why was she even limited

[loud shadow]

I have no idea

[marble jolt]

was there ever a reason

😭

[loud shadow]

[copper sun]

the reason was to make a unit limited

and probably cuz aa did it

[stable torrent]

i say the same thing about dio ngl cause holy dog water

[marble jolt]

hey dio was good

[stable torrent]

monarch all godly is 120k max

[marble jolt]

rather use him than johnny

[stable torrent]

and his time stop has been out done by sakuya

[marble jolt]

[copper sun]

his timestop was outdone by gojo before he even came out

[marble jolt]

because gojo was cracked

[stable torrent]

still is ngl

just not as great as others

[marble jolt]

and if they do the poll

he getting a buff

or whatever it is

[stable torrent]

give him a vangaurd evo

[marble jolt]

yea its over

😭

[stable torrent]

gojo infinity (unhinged)

[marble jolt]

I wonder what tengen wouldve got tbh

[stable torrent]

give him a map wide nuke of 100mil if you have sukuna

[stable torrent]

probably a move to gain damage attack speed and range like how in the anime he adapts to enemies

give jin mori holy cosmic then so he can clear debuffs every 30 seconds

[strong tendon]

most likely just stats buff

[marble jolt]

atp just give him a evo

[stable torrent]

stats aint gonna make a unit viable

[marble jolt]

how far tho

unless it includes

a passive rework

[stable torrent]

look at toji

[marble jolt]

which I doubt

[strong tendon]

i mean
viable doesn't mean meta

[marble jolt]

yea

[stable torrent]

toji isnt meta but still viable

[marble jolt]

EHHHH

[stable torrent]

bosses have 30 shields now

he says nah and breaks them

[marble jolt]

lets not go THAT far now

[copper sun]

i wouldnt go as far to call him viable when other units can do almost the same thing and have actual utility

[stable torrent]

or is supposed to break them they still havent fixxed that

[stable torrent]

hey he ignores over shield and shields

[marble jolt]

I mean broly does to with over shield

[copper sun]

ignoring overshield doesnt mean much when his dmg sucks

[stable torrent]

also he doesnt remove shields.

[stable torrent]

jin mori does more damage to over shield

[stable torrent]

i mean the evo they gave him was pretty lacking

[marble jolt]

he was good for his time

[neat cedar]

"Attacks remove shields"

[marble jolt]

till we found out sasuke burn affected shield

[stable torrent]

itachi

obito* sorry

[cunning valve]

mori biggest bait unit oat

[marble jolt]

itachi was good too

[neat cedar]

no, it was sasuke that was the meta shield breaker

Because he was 5 placements

[marble jolt]

i meant for like

[neat cedar]

and low spa so burn stacked hella fast

[marble jolt]

the solo leveling legend stage

but that was before the buff

[marble jolt]

this the reason ppl complaining abt escanor

its all sasuke fault

[stable torrent]

ok so the last time i used toji he didnt remove them but i do see he didnt gain 30% damage

[marble jolt]

did you have any buffs on him

[stable torrent]

-_-

[neat cedar]

sometimes visually the shields stay

[stable torrent]

check dms ill send a video showing toji not gainin the damage tho idk why they would fix it after a year

[marble jolt]

because

[neat cedar]

Also

Because toji loses his 50% buff when he breaks shields

Because it replaces it with a 30% damage buff

At least I'd think that's why

[stable torrent]

he kept his 50%

[marble jolt]

also ur not wrong abt this

but

[stable torrent]

btw why does jinmori not gain the damage for categories

how are they counted

thats with one clone down

he gained 10% yet i have different catagory units

[copper sun]

not all units have categories

[stable torrent]

thats dumb.

[marble jolt]

we’ll get more

[neat cedar]

Because categories only exist for specific buffs

Giant, Dragon Sphere, etc

[marble jolt]

buuhan is goated for him

tho yes nobody uses buu

[copper sun]

what even is the category for the 10% buff in the ss

[marble jolt]

actually

is there a summoner with a category

[dark pier]

There’s genuinely maybe 2 bosses that have 30 shields in this entire game bro what

[marble jolt]

minus buu

[stable torrent]

idk be cause the units that i have should have categories

[copper sun]

and they fubuki/emilia victims

[marble jolt]

toji first usage

[dark pier]

Jin Mori already halfs his time stunned he doesn’t need any immunity

[marble jolt]

Toji?

nvm does he

even count as one

[stable torrent]

btw you said jin mori is insane cause hes buffed by all catagories well his clones arent and thats where his dps comes from

[marble jolt]

He is insane with it

[copper sun]

if you sell him the clones get the buffs

[dark pier]

You know that if you sell Jin Mori with all the buffs, it goes to his clones and you can BUFF THE CLONES AGAIN WITH THE SAME BUFFS

[stable torrent]

they dont have the passive that counts them as jin mori so no

[dark pier]

What

[neat cedar]

Yeah

[marble jolt]

to balance it out

[neat cedar]

clones are passiveless

[stable torrent]

[dark pier]

They can still get buffed dude

[stable torrent]

nah

[cunning valve]

psure it still works ye 😭

[dark pier]

Literally @analog bolt did it

[marble jolt]

that and it makes sense

[stable torrent]

where are these so called buffs then

[marble jolt]

If I remember from the manhaw

his clones are weaker than the og

[dark pier]

Have you tried re using the buffs maybe?

[marble jolt]

that and it would be broken af

[cunning valve]

thats like completly diff thing

[stable torrent]

does jin mori clones gain the catagory buffs when the placement is sold

[marble jolt]

you want all his clones to do 600k+ dmg

[stable torrent]

no im saying that saint is saying the clones get double buffed

[marble jolt]

sell him

[neat cedar]

They gain all buffs that the main got

[marble jolt]

they’ll get buffed

[stable torrent]

hes saying that the clones then will gain those buffs a second time

because he thinks the clones gain the catagory buffing passive

[analog bolt]

what buffs are you applying

[stable torrent]

ishtar buuhan and giant queen

[analog bolt]

gng 💔

so

check the clones

they dont have the same passives

as the main

they dont get buffed from other groups

[stable torrent]

IM SAYING THAT

SAINT IS SAYING THEY DO

[analog bolt]

but if you use actual buffers

like ywach

or haruka

[cunning valve]

why is each clone cheaper?

[analog bolt]

you can get double the dmg buff

[stable torrent]

are you not reading what you where pinged in.

[stable torrent]

SAINT is the one saying clones gain a second catagory buff

[neat cedar]

They don't because they never got a first category buff

lmao

[analog bolt]

idk if im misreading something but i think saints just talking normal buffs

because normal buffs allow you to buff the first one

then

after you sell the first one

you can buff the clones as well

orihime is really good for this

[dark pier]

If you go a bit further down.. I said you can buff them again. Not “category buff them again”

[stable torrent]

hes saying they gain a second set of catagory buffs

[dark pier]

Yh man

[marble jolt]

if it did he might as well be the best unit

😭

[analog bolt]

since it gives a 15% buff and cleanses then when you sell him

the same buff is transfered

but its not considered orihime's buff

and you can now reproc all the same buffs

you had on base jin

(other than category buffs)

so with ywach and orihime that comes out to 60% more dmg

15% x2 for both

[stable torrent]

never have i said they CANT get buffed

i said the clones dont gain catagory buffs

saint said they did

[analog bolt]

seems like you guys are agreeing

[stable torrent]

no

[stable torrent]

saint was telling me that the clones gain a second set of the catagory buffs

which they dont

[dark pier]

I literally first replied to you saying you can sell Jin Mori to give the clones buffs and then buff the clones

I didn’t say you could use category buffs twice

Which is why I was confused when you said “they couldn’t get buffed again”

[analog bolt]

pretty sure this is all a misunderstanding and we all know how mori works 💔

[analog bolt]

also if you sell base mori he does get the buffs from the clones

highest i've gotten my clones dmg too

was 1m each

109 range

the team is ymir unevo zeke and haruka

also @stable torrent if you want your mori immune to status and stun and stuff astolfol is a really good way to do that

he gets a active skill on his 5th upgrade that allows him to make one unit immune to status debuffs

[cunning valve]

(stuns) 😢

[marble jolt]

look on the bright side

[analog bolt]

💔 they're already halved

[marble jolt]

he gets less stun time

[analog bolt]

stun time is halved and with astolfol he becomes immune to everything else and gets a big buff in damage

[stable torrent]

ok its still time he doesnt attack.

[marble jolt]

I mean you could just

spawn another unit

[analog bolt]

the only unit with no stun is vsjw aizen and gojo if im not wrong 💔

[cunning valve]

yuha

[stable torrent]

john smith sokora

[marble jolt]

And if you get his ability, you don’t have to worry abt stun as much

[stable torrent]

ywatch

[indigo scaffold]

Salter

[marble jolt]

midter

[stable torrent]

theres alot of stun immune

[marble jolt]

gilg

[indigo scaffold]

💔

[analog bolt]

be grateful with what you can get 💔

mori already does 600k dps

[cunning valve]

in 2 gamemodes 🥀 ?

[analog bolt]

erm

no in all of them

[cunning valve]

tbh probably not even more than using acuall units instead

[stable torrent]

damage

[analog bolt]

😭

[cunning valve]

ye bro he doesnt cost like 200k?

[marble jolt]

yea you not

abt to get that

[analog bolt]

90k to max the first one 45k for the second one 15k for the third 7k for the 4th (with ymir)

his best buffer

[dark pier]

Doesn’t rlly matter since he has like 2x the dps of every other unit

[analog bolt]

so less than kaguya to max all 4 units

[dark pier]

Jin Mori rlly the best unit to build a team around

[cunning valve]

its fine to be wrong

[analog bolt]

sir what 💔

[cunning valve]

ye well u never max kaguya in 15waves

[dark pier]

?

[analog bolt]

?

[stable torrent]

his max dps is 105k

[stable torrent]

you dont?

[cunning valve]

u dont

[analog bolt]

yours sucks

mf this is a CLONE

[dark pier]

Is this no buffs

[analog bolt]

mine still has tons of room to get more damage as well

[dark pier]

Missing Eren buff too right

[stable torrent]

no buffs

[analog bolt]

yeah

[analog bolt]

this is ymir zeke haruka

ymir needs 0 dollars

[stable torrent]

total with clones added into it is this so still no where near the 600k

[analog bolt]

zeke needs 0 dollars

[analog bolt]

sir i just sent you mine

your mori sucks

idk what to tell you

[dark pier]

186k dps no buffs

You can triple that

With 3 units

[stable torrent]

no

[analog bolt]

im sorry its not 600k

562,038

is the exact total dps

[dark pier]

140% buff ymir
40% buff Eren
60% dmg buff Zeke

[analog bolt]

+150% from clones

[uneven moat]

make a mil dps unit

give him a weakness

remove weakness please

[stable torrent]

rin dancer ishtar boohan arin zeke and founder still not triple like you said strange

[cunning valve]

wukong is weak early and takes 4 slots

and costs a lot

and isnt immune to anything

[uneven moat]

he does a very respecteble amount of dps without it

[cunning valve]

biggest bait unit ingame

[analog bolt]

what are we even implying 😭

[dark pier]

He has 1 weakness and it can be covered by a easy to get unit 😭😭

[analog bolt]

are we trying to say i photoshopped ts

[cunning valve]

ye but escanor does more

and he is free

[uneven moat]

escanor also loses to shield

😭

[dark pier]

Immune to dmg reduction, 50% less stun time, can be immune to debuffs with a singular unit

[analog bolt]

my base mori only haruka no clones

[stable torrent]

now with ywatch subaru and unevo cid strange still not triple the dps like he said

[analog bolt]

base mori pre sold ymir and zeke buff

[dark pier]

Show the clones

[cunning valve]

he immune to dmg redu?

[analog bolt]

mori pre sold ymir all clones down

mori sold ymir

[dark pier]

Immune to 30% and gains dmg based on how much lost iirc

[cunning valve]

oh that dmg redu

[analog bolt]

i forgot i did use orhime instead of an extra farm

[cunning valve]

it doesnt get used tho

most of the enemies

[analog bolt]

so thats where the damage difference is

[cunning valve]

is there more yen bracket on new maps?

starting gg map?

[dark pier]

?

Most likely yeah

[stable torrent]

plus orahime so where is this triple dps

[analog bolt]

this is the clone with only 2 of his major buffers

[cunning valve]

do u get more yen on gg map than fate

[analog bolt]

sir sell him

[dark pier]

I think you do

[analog bolt]

max your clones

[dark pier]

Sell him and look at clones

[analog bolt]

check

[stable torrent]

he said on the main body not the clones

[analog bolt]

where?

[dark pier]

?

I said the overall dps triples with max buffs

[stable torrent]

they have less dps now

[uneven moat]

so like why does mori need a buff

[dark pier]

142k x 3

[dark pier]

He does not

[analog bolt]

oml

[stable torrent]

not triple of 186k

[analog bolt]

this guys stupid 😭

[dark pier]

Gng

THERES 3 CLONES

[analog bolt]

i also have familars

this guy

[uneven moat]

so can we close this suggestion

DIRWDDD

[stable torrent]

no he said and i quote you can triple the dps of 186k

[analog bolt]

no i said that

because you can

this is MY SSS

theres 3

of them

thats how the clones work

187,346 x3

[stable torrent]

he said it

[analog bolt]

thats the total dps of this one unit

[stable torrent]

clones added dps

still not 600k

[analog bolt]

sir you having a bad mori jin doesnt make the rest of ours

worse

[analog bolt]

again already said

its 570

[analog bolt]

i was using hyperbole

[analog bolt]

sir I DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOURS

IM SENDING YOU

THE ACTUAL PROOF

[analog bolt]

OF THE UNIT

[analog bolt]

Are we flexing?

here

[stable torrent]

mid

[marble jolt]

what is happening

[cunning valve]

buffing him is cheap right?

zeke ymir and haruka best ~?

[dark pier]

Yeah

[cunning valve]

2 best is ymir zeke?

[dark pier]

Zeke ymir haruka

[dark pier]

Yes

Or

[cunning valve]

u need antiheal

most of the time kinda

[dark pier]

His dps is so high it doesn’t matter

[cunning valve]

well only content that dps matters is highly scaled

so then it does matter

[dark pier]

With max buffs + main unit sold

[dark pier]

The clones can do 500k dps

[cunning valve]

thats some pretty unfair birb

😠

🖕

[light ore]

What team?

[marble jolt]

ishtar

the best buffer

in game

[dark pier]

Ymir Zeke haruka rin

With astolfo for debuffs

[analog bolt]

dont have yet

[dark pier]

Soon

[light ore]

Thats nuts

[analog bolt]

my birb goated

[dark pier]

Also

This can go MUCH HIGHER

Like

Way higher

With the familiars that buff their buffs

[cunning valve]

i still think he is too weak early game

[analog bolt]

🥹

[cunning valve]

to hold on acuall stages

[analog bolt]

thats another 100% right there 🥹

[dark pier]

?

[light ore]

Try with mr satan i think his crit chance and dmg stacks too

[analog bolt]

sir

[light ore]

Instead if haruka

[dark pier]

Not worth it the crit dmg he gives isn’t good

[analog bolt]

mori costs 90k to max

doing 1m dmg

[cunning valve]

10k dps palcement

escanor does 50k or smt

[dark pier]

He has like 100k dmg in 1-2 upgrades

[dark pier]

Escanor has 20k

Iirc

[light ore]

I mean if you have a good birb base crit does 25% dmg

[dark pier]

Yh but 25% crit chance only

[analog bolt]

monarch mori maxed outdps's monarch escanor maxed

nuke not included

[dark pier]

You could put Eren that gives a 40% dmg boost instead

Tbh

0 cost too

[light ore]

Yh

[cunning valve]

buffed ye

[analog bolt]

lets not forget doing this in the aot stage also gives him 350% more damage

[light ore]

Stacking rrs for jin hope 500 is enough

[analog bolt]

yeah its with their team

monarch escanor does better without a team

[cunning valve]

tbh fully buff escanor

[analog bolt]

so if you even if you brought buffs im pretty sure it would DECREASE his dps

[cunning valve]

i wonder how much he deals

i think if u ability u have same dmg as fully burnt?

[analog bolt]

escanor isnt worth running if you use any unit other than him 💔

[cunning valve]

thats not true

[analog bolt]

he needs to be the ONLY unit

on the team

[cunning valve]

escanors dps on palcement is insane

and u can max him w other unit

s

but mby mori is strong enough to hold early on wl

[analog bolt]

yeah but he doesnt get to use his main feature

[cunning valve]

that dr passive is giga op

[cunning valve]

he kinda does

since u still get to ability

[analog bolt]

escanor is also 8k placement

so with a team of buffers he isnt getting placed til wave 7 or so

reasonably

[light ore]

Escanor is just too niche tbh

[analog bolt]

then you also need 200k to max him out

[cunning valve]

ye but u play normal team

around him

[analog bolt]

why do that instead of kaguya 😭

[cunning valve]

i think ppl just dont have him idk

how can any1 say he is bad

[light ore]

He lacks many things

[cunning valve]

u do both

[analog bolt]

not

[cunning valve]

only issue i found is

[dark pier]

Escanor isn’t bad

[analog bolt]

where can you possibly max both

[cunning valve]

other than shit gold maps

[dark pier]

He has like 2x the dps of all the vanguards

[cunning valve]

u dont max both

but escanor has triple her dps

[light ore]

Stuns, no bleed, shields, dmg reduction no cc

[cunning valve]

or smt

kaguya isnt dps she is support

[analog bolt]

mori jin placement with all his buffs

[cunning valve]

also mori has 7 spa

[analog bolt]

and mori out damges that

[cunning valve]

how much are buffs ?

yen

[analog bolt]

uhm in total?

[dark pier]

Self cleanse, bleed doesn’t matter he has a nuke + insane dps, shielded aren’t even that bad there’s maybe 2-4 bosses with a lot of shields and you could bring a shielder for that

[cunning valve]

ye

no like

[analog bolt]

for all the buffers its 4.8k

[cunning valve]

on placement ig

18 k still low

ye thats what im saying 😭 it gets to escanor price almost

[dark pier]

Escanor can literally solo until wave 10-15 of any gamemode without help

[analog bolt]

sir this just isnt true

[dark pier]

He ONLY struggles with shielded

[cunning valve]

no on placement

[analog bolt]

mori maxxed is 5 without spa buffs

[robust glen]

so?

[cunning valve]

oh its lower im in

[robust glen]

you have 5 other slots to use

[cunning valve]

bossrush well

[light ore]

Cant cleanse stuns tho if not on 12 stacks

[cunning valve]

well u bring buffers

[analog bolt]

ok but so can mori 💔

[cunning valve]

by then u dont anymore

thats the point

[dark pier]

Yh

[robust glen]

a 400% nuke is trash

[analog bolt]

we all know escanor ISNT BAD

[cunning valve]

u dont need to max clones right?

[analog bolt]

hes insane

[dark pier]

Not when he does 1M fucking dmg

[analog bolt]

you do but it costs 80k total to max all 3

[cunning valve]

i just noticed

[analog bolt]

eaching doing 800k

[cunning valve]

u can start by maxing 3rd one

thats kinda good

[analog bolt]

in an average game

[light ore]

Kaguya reaches 1M too

[analog bolt]

yeah

[dark pier]

Ok..

[analog bolt]

why is this relevant :Brokenm

[dark pier]

Her nuke is one time per game iirc

Unlike Escanor

[real idol]

make jin mori full aoe too

[light ore]

Whats escanors nuke cd?

[cunning valve]

he doesnt

its 1 time use no?>

[real idol]

escanor is 1x use

[dark pier]

Once per player

[real idol]

same with kaguya

[dark pier]

No im saying like it’s one per player not one per game

[dark pier]

Oh

[analog bolt]

its once per player

[dark pier]

Who has the one per game nuke

Oh vsjw

[real idol]

vsjw

[analog bolt]

vsjw

[dark pier]

Ok dude

[robust glen]

kaguya does 8m

[dark pier]

Once per match per player

[robust glen]

and is map wide

[dark pier]

So

3 players could use it?

The wording is weird

[analog bolt]

but in an average match

[light ore]

10Mil full map nuke

[analog bolt]

most people arent getting 1.1m kaguya

in a normal match

[cunning valve]

traitless mori op tho

[dark pier]

Once per match globally iirc

[cunning valve]

but then he costs too much

idk

weird unit

[dark pier]

He’s cheaper than every vanguard except vsjw

[analog bolt]

sir mori is the cheapest unit in broken

[light ore]

U can max her in a normal match

[analog bolt]

no his main body is cheaper

than vsjw

[dark pier]

Yh

[robust glen]

wdym?

[analog bolt]

getting her to 5x dmg tho

[robust glen]

all you need to do is ice sand ice sand

thats easy

[analog bolt]

isnt

[cunning valve]

u dont lvl vsjw tho

[dark pier]

Dude that’s a 4x buffed kaguya

You can get maybe a 2.5x buffer in a normal match

[cunning valve]

u cant max kaguya in w15

most of maps

wait no bro im just

[dark pier]

You can

[analog bolt]

yes you can 💔

[cunning valve]

forgetting i played mostly traitlesswl

for quite too long

o well

[dark pier]

Ok traitless yeah since no golden

[cunning valve]

ye

[robust glen]

why are you wrong on so many things?

[cunning valve]

mb

not rly

[light ore]

Blast element does 2.7 alone

[cunning valve]

it doesnt matter if u can max her or not

[dark pier]

?

No lol what

[cunning valve]

max/almost max not much diff

[robust glen]

it does

the topic was that if u can max her

which u can

[cunning valve]

whats the point of talking about content u can just place vsjw and he will win it

[dark pier]

You need to do a rotation of 2 other domains so you can get that dmg buff

Also

[analog bolt]

pretty sure it was if you can get her to 4.4x dmg

[robust glen]

ur so wrong on that

its ONLy ice and sand

[dark pier]

Kaguya needs a blast, water and fire unit on the team

[dark pier]

Yh I forgot fire does 2x stun duration

[light ore]

If she has blast in her team and switches from sand to ice to sand she buffs herself to 2.85x dmg

[dark pier]

A whole 1:30 minutes for that

[analog bolt]

are we forgetting we're doing all of this to match the damage of a single mori clone

[dark pier]

Well 1 minute to be exact

[cunning valve]

isnt 2 domains doesnt take long

[analog bolt]

out of three

[cunning valve]

irrelevant

[light ore]

Only blast if you want to max the nuke

[dark pier]

1 domain lasts 25 seconds with a 5 sec cd or 10 sec

[light ore]

It lasts 10 sec with 10 sec cd

[dark pier]

No she needs fire water and blast if you want the 4x dmg boost

Eh water is not needed

[light ore]

The element dmg boost applies once per dimension

[dark pier]

Nvm it is

[light ore]

If you active sand dimension with a blast in your team she gains 50% more ONLY in that dimension

[dark pier]

Man idk how that person got her to 4x dmg boost

[light ore]

Prob with full buffers or Worldlines

[dark pier]

Oh yh worldlines

[light ore]

But still she can reach close to 1M pretty much

[dark pier]

Kaguya can get 800-900k with the blast dmg bufff

No familiar

[light ore]

Yeah

I wanna get a godly strange cat for her to max her dmg

So better full map nuke

[analog bolt]

i think birb is better

for her

[light ore]

I have a 20% birb

Range and crit dont matter

[dark pier]

Nah

The cat is

[light ore]

So gambling for 40% cat is better for her

[dark pier]

Since you can get a 40% dmg boost with max optimization

[cunning valve]

u can crit the nuke tho

ofc it matters

[dark pier]

25% chance

[light ore]

Not guaranteed

[cunning valve]

😮

[dark pier]

Better to get a guaranteed 40% dmg buff

50% if you are lucky enough

[light ore]

40 should be doable

[cunning valve]

i mean not rly but

gl

[light ore]

If i didnt get scammed of 30 event coins ofc

Event just skipped though day 2

[cunning valve]

strange cat is spring chest familiar?

[light ore]

Yeah

[dark pier]

I got to 20% and then lost the 50/50 and it went down to like 13%

[light ore]

Why did it go down?

[dark pier]

Chance to go down

Or go up

With corruption

[light ore]

On cat?

Corruption 4 or 5

[dark pier]

Corrupt 3

[light ore]

Cuz 5 cant go down

[dark pier]

You can corrupt 5 times

On the cat right

1-50% dmg boost every time you get corrupt 3

Or - 1-50% boost

[light ore]

I got a cat with 10% curse dmg

Only corrupted once

Im waiting for event

[dark pier]

What event

LH

OH

THEBETTER CHANCE

[light ore]

The one where you have more chance

[dark pier]

fuck why did I waste my corruption crystals

[light ore]

U sold bro

[dark pier]

I got 0 now

[analog bolt]

you can get 15 a day

[dark pier]

😭

[analog bolt]

rn

[dark pier]

20*

[light ore]

I got 0 today 😂😂✌️✌️

[cunning valve]

corruption crystales are only easy ones to farm

waste of coins

[dark pier]

Yh boss rush

Or odyssey 🥹

[cunning valve]

ye odysey

ppl dunno tech or wat 😭

[dark pier]

I love using Kaguya in odyssey

[light ore]

Tell me

[cunning valve]

i got like 100 or sum

u just do limitless one

[dark pier]

Limitless odyssey

[cunning valve]

200 re

[light ore]

And then?

[dark pier]

200 intensity

And leave

Restart

You could do the same with 100 intensity leave restart

For a gem farm

500 gems every 4 minutes

[light ore]

Do you mac that or manual?

[dark pier]

You can do both

I do it manual tho

[light ore]

Alr

[dark pier]

Don’t like using a mac

[light ore]

There are advanced ones pretty op if you ask me

[dark pier]

Yh I know

[kind jackal]

yet they did that to all the past meta units 😭

[dark pier]

Old dev team

[kind jackal]

this was like upd 4 bro

not old dev team

[dark pier]

?

[dark pier]

It was

They left before dbz iirc

[neat cedar]

You mean... salter?

And the few unknowns we have

[kind jackal]

not debuffs

statuses

[neat cedar]

Salter is status too

[dark pier]

Also Astolfo exists now

So

It’s not like before where the only cleanse was sakura

[neat cedar]

Is Astolfo debuffs too? I forget

Or is he just status

[dark pier]

Debuffs only

[neat cedar]

It’s status only

At least according to the description

[cunning valve]

its only stuns

w/e stuns are

[neat cedar]

Snares

It might also apply to that Salter boss attack where she like stabs and makes a unit unsellable?