PLEASE Dont Make Escanor a Banner Vanguard without a 7 Deadly Sins Update.

[knotty river]

fact check this

[agile glacier]

huh

[knotty river]

maybe i watched ubw with my eyes closed but are shirou and emiya the same person

[clever ibex]

They are the same person and kinda not
Archer wants to stop Shirou from becoming like him

[knotty river]

they're the SAME GUY

IN DIFFERENT SITUATIONS

[ripe bear]

The next fate update could be grand order

[agile glacier]

i mean by technicality they are both Shirou

[clever ibex]

that’s

literally what I said

[knotty river]

EXACTLY

[clever ibex]

LITERALLY WHAT I SAID

[agile glacier]

EMIYA is the emiya from the saber route

[knotty river]

WHY'D YOU SAY I WAS WRONG WHEN THEY'RE THE SAME GUY THEn?

[agile glacier]

etc

[knotty river]

??

dont start switching up now the #1 fate fan is on ru case bro

[agile glacier]

😭

[ripe bear]

Their is like 20 different versions of the same character in fate

You normally wouldn’t call them the same character

[clever ibex]

the #1 fate fan got a bp from me today and has somehow pushed me into the hell named FGO

and now I can’t get out

[agile glacier]

you can

[clever ibex]

and I don’t wanna get out

but I wanna get out

but don’t wanna and can’t

[agile glacier]

just take a break whenever your burnt out man

[knotty river]

no

[clever ibex]

enjoy your monarch salter.

[knotty river]

theres no breaks in gacha games

ur going to slave away to afford summons until u die

[agile glacier]

i am uneffected by the fomo

[knotty river]

how

[agile glacier]

its pretty easy man

[crude moat]

mobile gacha games in the big 25 🥀

[ripe bear]

Dbl

[knotty river]

ay chill out bro

dbl is ass

fuck dbl

[ripe bear]

Dokkan

[knotty river]

dokkan solos ur favourite mobile gacha game

[crude moat]

"dbl" "dokkan" like they both aint ass

[knotty river]

have u seen gogeta's animations bro

[ripe bear]

Dokkan and ass in the same sentence

[knotty river]

real

[ripe bear]

Whats that one naruto one that go deleted

[knotty river]

there was a naruto gacha game?

[dark timber]

Do you have dms open

[clever ibex]

Wondering if I should report this as this technically counts as a death threat

[ripe bear]

Only reason i like dbl because that game blessed me with umv and ug4

[agile glacier]

lets all just hop on fgo guys

[clever ibex]

You do realize that there are other fate series?

like…

bro

[agile glacier]

everyone knows Artoria and her 10 copies

smh

[patent pasture]

No

[winter loom]

sorry this one mobile gacha game is hogging all my storage

[patent jetty]

Artoria, artoria, artoria...

[clever ibex]

who is Astolfo

[winter loom]

astolfo

[patent pasture]

Its literally just shirou archer saber gil lancer and ig astolfo people dont really care about all fate zero servants even

Ofc therell be die hard fans

[clever ibex]

This is Artoria
This is Artoria
Artoria
Artoria

[ripe bear]

Fate a infinite content farm

[agile glacier]

[clever ibex]

this guy..

[knotty river]

he aint lying bro

[agile glacier]

but fr the most popular fate characters throughtout the entire franchise are probabaly:

Shirou
Rin
Gilgamesh
Artoria
Astoflo
Iskandar
Mordred
Jeanne

[knotty river]

rin?

[ripe bear]

Ishtar

[clever ibex]

Astolfo

yea

[knotty river]

rin aint popular i didnt know who she was before this

[clever ibex]

You just never watched fate

[knotty river]

half of those are just "the guy from aba" picks 💔

[clever ibex]

say it bro

[knotty river]

does he know

[agile glacier]

shes like one of the most popular tsundere's man

[clever ibex]

Jeanne

[knotty river]

bro the only reason i knew rin was because in shirou's kit in aba he had a move called tohsaka where she just launches a blast

[agile glacier]

i would say Nero but apparently shes not that popular in ATD community

yall don;t know peak

[knotty river]

rin is not popular

[clever ibex]

Mash is also pretty known I’d say

[agile glacier]

🤷🏻

[clever ibex]

including ME?

I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS

I THOUGHT WE WERE HOMIES

YOU ARE MY LIKE MY BROTHER

[agile glacier]

you do not know Nero...

[knotty river]

the guy from the mage anime?

[agile glacier]

the 2nd goat

besides Jeanne

[knotty river]

ohh no its the shield woman from aba

💀

[ripe bear]

From dmc?

[clever ibex]

Nero Claudia

[agile glacier]

Nero Claudius

[clever ibex]

red saber

Italian

[clever ibex]

FUCKING

[knotty river]

aint nero like

[clever ibex]

AUTO CIRRECTION

[knotty river]

some italian ruler

[clever ibex]

I AM

GONNA

[knotty river]

???

[clever ibex]

VAJWBWISHISVS

[agile glacier]

not to be mistaken with the Saber of red

they are different

[knotty river]

so we got

[agile glacier]

yeah

[knotty river]

"red saber" nero claudius

saber of red

saber

saber altet

[clever ibex]

Saber of Red = Mordred
Nero = Red saber

I know that

[agile glacier]

Saber of red = Mordred
Red saber = Nero

[knotty river]

how many saber variants do e have in fate

[clever ibex]

Saber is

[agile glacier]

alot

[clever ibex]

The class

you can call

Medusa saber

If you summon her

As a saber class servant

[agile glacier]

yeah that too ig

[knotty river]

we kmnow the saber we're talking about bro

[ripe bear]

Why do they always have the same hair bun as saber

[agile glacier]

Artoria copies?

[clever ibex]

where is my Sakura Saber.

[knotty river]

ye

[agile glacier]

lemme think

[clever ibex]

Saber faces

that’s the term youre looking for

[knotty river]

saber faces

no way thats an actual thing

[clever ibex]

It is.

[patent pasture]

Literally just true most people dont bother past stay night's storylines

[ripe bear]

Like the thing with jojos rn with araki drawing every character similar

[agile glacier]

Artoria Pendragon (Saber)
Artoria Pendragon Alter (Saber)
Artoria Pendragon Alter (Lancer)
Artoria Caster
Artoria Pendragon (Hana no Miyako)
Artoria Pendragon (Lancer)
Artoria Pendragon Lily
Galactica Saber
Goddess Rhongomyniad
Master Artoria
Mysterious Heroine X
Mysterious Heroine XX
Ultra Heroine Z
Mysterious Heroine X Alter
Mysterious Heroine XX Alter
Saber Class Card
Saber Lion
Corpse King
Gray
Gray (Assassin)
Jeanne d'Arc
Jeanne d'Arc (Lancer)
Jeanne d'Arc Alter
Jeanne d'Arc Alter Santa Lily
Metatron Jeanne
Laeticia
Lakshmibai
Lê Lợi
Mordred
Morgan le Fay
Morgan (Lostbelt)
Aesc
Nero Claudius
(Censor) of Babylon
Sodom's Beast/Draco
Okita Souji
Okita Souji Alter
Devil Saber
Yamato Takeru

[knotty river]

WHAT THE FUCK

[agile glacier]

well those are just saber faces

if its just Artoria specifically then its about half of that

[knotty river]

when did saber become a lancer

[agile glacier]

6th singularity

when she becomes a god

[clever ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/saber-artoria-pendragon-artoria-pendragon-lancer-fate-gif-fate-gif-27025530

[agile glacier]

and uses her other weapon instead of excalibur

[knotty river]

other weapon?

what other weapon does she have bro

[agile glacier]

yeah the lance

[clever ibex]

I would say the name

[agile glacier]

Rhongominiyad

[clever ibex]

If I knew

[knotty river]

arthur pendragon never did any of this

[clever ibex]

how to fucking spell it

[agile glacier]

pretty sure he did

[clever ibex]

This thing

[knotty river]

nvm

archer did do this

rhongomyniad

[marble dune]

hes gonna be banner

lol

[clever ibex]

the 4th one on the bottom

[knotty river]

nobody really wants him to be tho

[marble dune]

Well he is

nothing we can do

[knotty river]

hey they update is a good ways away

and they're listening to the community more

theres a reason this channel exists

[marble dune]

they’re not gonna change it

[clever ibex]

Morgan Lostbelt??

What the heckington

[agile glacier]

yeah

she becomes a lost belt king

[knotty river]

just give me my star and move on bro

[marble dune]

I did

[knotty river]

ty 🙏

[agile glacier]

(Lost belt 6 is peak fate btw)

[clever ibex]

I

[knotty river]

wait

[clever ibex]

Uh

that will take

Some time

[agile glacier]

Normal morgan = the one who made a evil baby with Artoria
Lostbelt Morgan = Aec the savior and is the king of camelot

[clever ibex]

To get there

[knotty river]

how are joan of arc and arthur the same perso

[clever ibex]

Probably

[agile glacier]

Saber face

not the same

[knotty river]

like they're just lookalikes? i dont get this

[agile glacier]

just how they are drawn

and designed

[knotty river]

oh

💀

[zinc wraith]

already too late bro
merlin was proof that 7ds wasn't getting his own update

wait since when im white

💀

[knotty river]

Nether already said a unit being in a seasonal banner doesnt make them ineligible for an update

[ripe bear]

Wish merlin gets a actual use tied to escanor instead of bootleg luce

[zinc wraith]

i mean with escanor there is chance but not for merlin

her shiny is her strongest form

[knotty river]

Yeah, she already exists

just means she isnt in the next update

[zinc wraith]

whatever
we just pray and hope we get escanor 🙏🏼

[knotty river]

We're already guaranteed to get escanor? not quite sure what you mean here

[ripe bear]

Wdym

[zinc wraith]

i mean from summoning

[knotty river]

ohh yeah just pissed we not getting any other 7ds characters like meliodas

how is the mc not being included in an upd like this bruh 💔

[ripe bear]

Escanor clears

[knotty river]

you cant know escanor without knowing meliodas

[marble dune]

eh

[ripe bear]

You come in for meli and stay for escanor

[knotty river]

exactly

meli and escanor would carry an X.0 update

[steady vortex]

Sukuna was meant to be a Vanguard...?

[knotty river]

yeah

[marble dune]

no

[knotty river]

2nd evo got cancelled tho cause they were afraid of copyright

[steady vortex]

Ah fuck my laggy ass phone

[marble dune]

Sukuna meant to be a rare

[steady vortex]

I tried replying to NetherResonant

[agile glacier]

yes

was gonna be the next quest vanguard

but to bad

[zinc wraith]

assault meliodas vanguard (fuck demon king form)

[knotty river]

we dont even need a vanguard just give me meliodas man

[ripe bear]

Why would they give meli a vangaurd😭

[marble dune]

look on the bright side

if they're kind enough they'll give escanor and merlin a synergy

[knotty river]

av im not asking for much just give me this update in aa but in av and my life is yours

[knotty river]

they dont change character's kits

[ripe bear]

This the update that made me quit

[zinc wraith]

💀

[ripe bear]

My esdeath immediately got power crept

[marble dune]

she's still good

[zinc wraith]

lol

[marble dune]

but yes

[zinc wraith]

talking about aa

[marble dune]

oh

then yes

she's ass

[knotty river]

powercreep is a whole nother issue

[ripe bear]

What im hoping for make at least one of the spring exclusives redeemable

[knotty river]

7ds would be like a 7.5/10 for an X.0 update

[ripe bear]

6

[marble dune]

not even bout to be a upd

[knotty river]

lets not

[ripe bear]

We dont need 11 7ds units

[knotty river]

eleven?

we dont need 11

some of the units are gonna be from bp, worldlines, allat

[ripe bear]

Just bp

[knotty river]

if escanors in a 7ds update we only need him, meliodas, ban, king gowther and diane

[steady vortex]

I can't even name 7 of them

[ripe bear]

We dont realistically need more than 2 7ds units 😭 just meli and escanor and entire fanbase is pleased

[marble dune]

meli, king, ban, elizabeth and hank, gowther

[knotty river]

if u cant name the 7 deadly sins in the 7 deadly sins thats on u gng

[marble dune]

I forgot abt diane

[knotty river]

would be underwhelming for such a popular anime tho

[marble dune]

lol lets replace gowther with diane

[knotty river]

the women are less known tbf

[marble dune]

we can add estarossa as a portal secret

[steady vortex]

Would Diane count as a Giant

[knotty river]

not even man

[marble dune]

yes

thats why i said replace gowther with her

[knotty river]

i think giant just refers to titan type characters

[marble dune]

for the aot units

[knotty river]

and zeke's active

[marble dune]

wait

WAIT

would escanor be considered a giant u it

[steady vortex]

Idk... Diane's pretty big...

[marble dune]

unit

[knotty river]

no

the made his model smaller

😭

[marble dune]

we will see

[patent jetty]

Av when it comes to female units: 🔥

[steady vortex]

Orihime 👅

[knotty river]

yeah i mean ymir is supposed to only be locked to aot so she's not an aot type titan

[ripe bear]

If giant applied to units outside of aot it could probrably fix the problem fix them only being good with each other

[marble dune]

it most likely will

its called giant category

[steady vortex]

My Ymir would finally be worth something ❤️‍🩹

[knotty river]

how many units have this feature tho

[marble dune]

idk

lol

[steady vortex]

Reminds me of that "Tags" suggestion I saw a while ago

[knotty river]

like who else would have giant

[steady vortex]

Yknow

[patent jetty]

Like 4

[marble dune]

https://tenor.com/view/shinj-mecha-gif-26172883

[knotty river]

this is NOT dokan

this is NOT

dbl

we not doing ts

or actually it'd be nice but

[steady vortex]

I'M JUST SAYING it reminded me of that

[knotty river]

idk man

[ripe bear]

Tags would be good

Actually

[knotty river]

yeah it would but the tags would be mad vague

[steady vortex]

Big ass units would have the giant category (meaning Ymir would buff them )

[ripe bear]

The game would be way to similar to awtd

[knotty river]

and i dont think theres enough units ingame for that rn

[marble dune]

it is another anime with giants….

https://tenor.com/view/aba-m1-sayo-skill-issue-gif-21948466

[knotty river]

yeah that wuld be pretty cool mech anime

but mechs are different from giants

[ripe bear]

Mechs are also giants

[marble dune]

we will consider them giants

[steady vortex]

I got Ymir today

It's gonna be worthless though

[knotty river]

yeah the tags need to cover a wide variety to be viable

[marble dune]

dang we got 2 7ds units

[steady vortex]

She only buffs one category

[marble dune]

lol

[knotty river]

and no 7ds update

💔

[marble dune]

its fine

[steady vortex]

It's like Ishtar but Ishtar might actually be useful later on

[marble dune]

We know they’re at least adding them slowly

I wonder whos next

[ripe bear]

Ishtar🥀 being 10x worse

[marble dune]

[knotty river]

if they add them slowly then they're gonnahave

[marble dune]

my guess is ban

[knotty river]

0 synergy cause they're dropped at different times

like merlin rn is just a worse lucy

[marble dune]

not yet

[steady vortex]

Ok but i'm fairly certain they're adding more Fate units later on but they're not adding more AOT units 🤷

[marble dune]

we are GETTING fate part 3 AND FOUR

YAY

[steady vortex]

Atleast Ymir has decent damage ig.

[marble dune]

FOR ISHTAR BUFF

[knotty river]

fate got too much content man

[steady vortex]

I am so thankful I kept her

[marble dune]

jm lying

well

Who knows

[steady vortex]

Even though I never use her

[marble dune]

[steady vortex]

Just like

Most of my other units'

[knotty river]

lowk i think exclusive units should either be readded permanently or just be cosmetic

cause its unfair to lock a meta behind a time window

[steady vortex]

No

[marble dune]

It is tuff tho

I will get escanor

Do wish he was a quest but its whatever

[knotty river]

yeah i just haven't been bothered to even grind for kaguya

[agile glacier]

yes

WE all want another

[knotty river]

i dumped like 1m and then left

[marble dune]

ishtar buff

[steady vortex]

Drop another Gilgamesh version and make it evo to Vanguard

[knotty river]

i hate gilgamesh

[marble dune]

Saber vanguard

[knotty river]

as a person

[agile glacier]

Gilgamesh and Enkidu duo

[knotty river]

hm if only someone

made a suggestion about this

[steady vortex]

Peak.

[marble dune]

it only someone…

[agile glacier]

just watch babylona, thats were most people start to like him i think

[knotty river]

bro he killed a child

how can i like him

[agile glacier]

gilgamesh is only cool when hes on the heroes side

[knotty river]

illya's death was depressing af

[agile glacier]

i mean artoria killed a child too

[knotty river]

blinded and then cut down

[knotty river]

ubw saber is different she'd never

[agile glacier]

no she did

[knotty river]

no she's different

did you not hear me the first time

saber would never

[agile glacier]

she sacrificed alot of small villages in Camelot for the overall saftey of camelot

im sure there was a kid in one of those villages

[knotty river]

ok but we know

that

[marble dune]

can we add kiritsugu

[knotty river]

if u wanna be a hero of justice

you gotta sacrifice some to save the many

[marble dune]

Kiritsugu and Kirei bp units pls

[knotty river]

kiritsugu the guy from aba

wait

who is the guy at the church

[knotty river]

???

[agile glacier]

Kirei

[knotty river]

whats the difference between him and kiritsugu

they look the exact same bro

[agile glacier]

no they do not bro 😭

[knotty river]

i saw kiritsugu in shirous backstoryt and was like "aint that the guy from the church"

[agile glacier]

well one uses holy magic and knifes while the other uses guns with anti mana bullets + Double accel

[knotty river]

they basically the same guy

[knotty river]

kirei a fraud

[agile glacier]

Kirei is no fraud

[marble dune]

wow

[knotty river]

yeah he is

[agile glacier]

just watch Zero and Heavens feel

[marble dune]

[agile glacier]

he cooks in both

just not in ubw

[knotty river]

he got packed by caster almost

[marble dune]

Fate never getting a vanguard

[knotty river]

he aint doing nun

[marble dune]

[agile glacier]

Caster is a Heroic Spirit 😭

Kirei is human

[knotty river]

fuck kirei

shirou a human and he dogwalks kirei

[agile glacier]

Kirei is pretty broken for a human

[marble dune]

that man is no human hes a monster

[agile glacier]

well

human enough

[knotty river]

wait

you did say shirou beats gilga right

how does that happen

misooo

[ripe bear]

gilg is a fraud

[knotty river]

shirous a bum

how does a bum beat the guy that cooked berserker, snuck emiya and apparently could solo the rest of the servants

[marble dune]

because shioru

is him

[ripe bear]

he a fraud in almost every series hes in

heaven feel gets cooked

[marble dune]

add shirou from aba

[ripe bear]

stay night cooked

and so forth

[agile glacier]

Gilga fraud

[knotty river]

gilga's just a horrible person

he strong still

[agile glacier]

Well shirou can fire blades a few milliseconds faster then gilga

And Gilga heavily underestimated shirou

As one usually does

Then when gilga was finna lock in got speed blitzed by the goat

[agile glacier]

He cooks in heavens feel and vow in stone movie

[knotty river]

o well maybe after i finsih ubw shirou gets his bum status removed

[ripe bear]

didnt he get off screened by sakura

[agile glacier]

Shirou no?

[ripe bear]

gilg

[agile glacier]

Yeah

Oh wait

Your talking abt gilga being a fraud

😭

Mb

Saber route, Babylona, Zero

Hes not really a fraud in those

[plucky quest]

who is you to say dont do this?

[ripe bear]

Although i dont agree with 7ds being a update since you are only going to care abt 2 characters I agree with the fact that they should be more open with letting .5 seasonal banner be focused on one anime I feel like the seasonal exclusives could benefit because their passives (mainly the ones that go to a random anime not in the game) are way to out of place and dont have synergy towards a lot of units unless they go to something like fate which leaves most of the exclusives to be looked over and just considered slop

[coral merlin]

Its too late gng maybe next time

[ripe bear]

Meant the seasonal exclusives should be centered around the vangaurd unit not the other way around mb

[knotty river]

only caring about 2 characters is a sorry excuse when

1. ban/meliodas/king (maybe)
2. we've gotten an update like fate before which you could say doesn't have as many popular characters
3. update 5.0 exists and this had the game at peak players btw
4. kaguya dropped with 4 banners and 1 portal secret, they could've been from naruto instead 😭 we already know from 5.0 that even if some units arent popular the update is gonna be empty ash without other units from the anime. escanor with the rest of the 7ds on his banner and like meliodas from portals would 100% get more people to play than more of the same banner vanguard formula

[ripe bear]

No one is gna care abt ban or king 😭 also dmc literally won the poll for most hyped in update 5 and you act as if gohan doesnt exist

[patent pasture]

Idk what youre tryna say about upd 5 it was literally dbz and dmc

Using it as a standard is just dumb

[knotty river]

gohan was ass tho

[patent pasture]

Ofc an upd based on an anime is better than these seasonal events, sure

Not a high bar

[knotty river]

dmc was a battlepass, that's not really the anime-themed part
dbz is popular yes, but its the same format

[patent pasture]

Seasonal events are legit just aa copypastes

[ripe bear]

so people werent hyped for him?

[patent pasture]

Werent dmc units voted the most hyped from that upd or smth

They look the coolest too

[ripe bear]

they were

[knotty river]

not that much gng

goku and buu took that spot

[knotty river]

yeah they're battlepasses not the actual upd bro

draw your attention to the update format

[ripe bear]

also more people would care abt them adding a random fate character than ban or king😭

[knotty river]

that's a overstatement but k

[ripe bear]

most of the 7ds fanbase watched for meli or escanor

[knotty river]

could say the same for the buu arc characters?

thats 3 units

also quit downplaying ban's popularity bro

[lean yarrow]

Yo vro 1.5k msgs what is there to Yap about on ts 😭

[knotty river]

a lotta shit man

[ripe bear]

that was 3/4 dbz units

[lean yarrow]

Like what

[knotty river]

whos the 4th 😭

[ripe bear]

hercule?

[lean yarrow]

the goat

[knotty river]

who the hell watched the buu arc for hercule

[lean yarrow]

Fys

[zinc wraith]

ermmm

[lean yarrow]

Hercule and fat boo were the highlights on everyone’s soul

[knotty river]

we all dyin bro

fat buu should've just been a part of buu's unit ngl

[patent pasture]

Fair enough ig

[knotty river]

make hercule the new meta farm please bro i dont wanna use midwagon and takamida

[lean yarrow]

I forgot about majin vegeta

[patent pasture]

Again, these seasonal events are literally just aa bullshit

Theyre not fun

[zinc wraith]

how is that even possible

[knotty river]

majin vegeta should've been a 2nd evo for the old vegeta
BUT YK WHY THEY DIDNT EVO HIM?

[ripe bear]

super vegeta got robbed

[patent pasture]

You just magno for a week and thats that

[knotty river]

WE GETTING ULTRA EGO VEGETA ON EVERYONE'S SOUL

[lean yarrow]

Js put the fries in the bag and quit atd already gang it’s not allat

[patent pasture]

Id rather have smth like even fucking upd 1 over seasonal events

[lean yarrow]

In fact quit Roblox and lock the absolute fuck in

[patent pasture]

Especially with these unit choices

[lean yarrow]

Because now is the time

To rise up

[knotty river]

upd one is top 5 av updates bro

[lean yarrow]

MY SOLDIERS

[knotty river]

what r u on about

[zinc wraith]

i will never forgive them not adding erwin

[patent pasture]

Not really

[zinc wraith]

just because he is overused

[patent pasture]

Didnt even come out with all the units it was supposed to have

[knotty river]

whats ur top 5 av updates gng

[lean yarrow]

Lowkey fumbled aot upd so fucking much

Shi I would have considered coming back if the aot upd was done well

They lost my trust gng

[knotty river]

also the 1.1 is part of the update so dont say nun

[lean yarrow]

Fuck anniversary

[patent pasture]

4, 3.5, 2, 4.5, 5 probably

[lean yarrow]

Fuck summer

[knotty river]

same bro ts was so ass

[patent pasture]

Took 3 weeks or smth but ight

[zinc wraith]

eren = ass
ymir = ass
ackermans = decent
zeke = ass
reiner = decent
armin = ass

[patent pasture]

Only for sukuna to be fucking garbage

[lean yarrow]

Yo js say the names I don’t keep the av updates to heart so I have no idea what any of those are

[knotty river]

reiner sucks

[knotty river]

??? no

[zinc wraith]

sleeping on free placements

[old hollow]

zeke is decent

[zinc wraith]

🥀

[patent pasture]

Zeke = decent
Reiner = ddd level unit

[old hollow]

reiner is worse gohan

[knotty river]

free placements are shit if they do no damage

[zinc wraith]

💀

[crude moat]

zeke is only even decent with monarch

without it hes unusuable

[zinc wraith]

💔

[patent pasture]

Disappointing as hell and not exactly worth it. Trash is obviously an exaggeration

[old hollow]

so when used uptimally hes good...

[lean yarrow]

Free placements have no use in the game if they don’t have meta dps nuke full aoe vanguard potential lets be fr

[old hollow]

the only issue is they all require ymir

[zinc wraith]

gohan is meta for everything 💔

he can handle 5 waves alone

💔

[lean yarrow]

5 WHOLE WAVES ALONE?

HOLY SHI

THATS INSANE

(They’ll never know)

[pulsar jolt]

they lost one of the best characters to put in a seasonal update

[lean yarrow]

Rate the aura

[patent pasture]

Units like gohan lose value when they keep making bullshit like energy drain and blinded, and theres stun in every other stage

[zinc wraith]

is a yhwach that cost more and only last 20 seconds
he ain't decent 😭

[patent pasture]

If the stages werent cancer gohan would be used more

[knotty river]

my top 5 av updates are

1. 5.0
2. 4.0
3. 2.0/3.5
4. 1.0
5. 5.5

[lean yarrow]

Fuck the stages av is the problem

[knotty river]

5.5 could've been top 3 updates if the devs cared imo

[old hollow]

hes a worse best unit in the game

[patent pasture]

Decent compared to everything else this upd, granted thats not saying much

[old hollow]

how terrible

[lean yarrow]

Please for gods sake js say the names I don’t know any of those numerical av Order shi

[knotty river]

1. buu arc
2. bleach
3. fate and fate 2
4. jjk
5. cid

[zinc wraith]

none of the gg units are worth grinding for when they get destroyed by any debuff

[knotty river]

debuff creep is so insane

[lean yarrow]

Damn jjk over guilty gear?

[patent pasture]

Nah its okay now, drain or whatever its called is pretty rare

[patent pasture]

Literally yes 6.0 is like bottom 5 updates

[knotty river]

they literally can't be used in any competitive shit cause they get railed by debuffs

[lean yarrow]

Idk man the upd was good it just needed some polishing

[knotty river]

no tournament is possible

[patent pasture]

Not really true, not all tourneys are gonna have it lol.

[knotty river]

with guilty gear units

[patent pasture]

Not like any gg unit besides baiken was being used allat much for tourneys anyway

Nothing really changed

[knotty river]

which is the problem

[lean yarrow]

Yo honest question why are y’all still playing av and the crap atd in the massive 25

[zinc wraith]

the entire game was unplayable in that upd

for 2 days 💔

[knotty river]

because we hope it'll get better

[patent pasture]

Sunk cost fallacy + gambling is fun + i just magno all day doesnt take much effort

[lean yarrow]

Waste of time won’t ever happen

[crude moat]

when the "optimal use" is having monarch then he isnt good

[lean yarrow]

The core of av is rotten

Unless they scrap it

And redo all over again

[old hollow]

...

[lean yarrow]

Itll remain to be bad

[zinc wraith]

because is the only game that can cook a good fate zero upd and date a live

[patent pasture]

It was okay in the 3.5 to 5.0 stretch lol

[knotty river]

optimal trait for 99.9% of units is monarch cause its the best trait bro dont use recommended traits as a guideline

[zinc wraith]

fucking kurumi in als cost me a 10k bundle

[patent pasture]

Plus if i can just afk it why not

[knotty river]

guys hear me out

[lean yarrow]

When did they ever make a dal upd

[knotty river]

dragon ball super av upate

in like 2 parts

[patent pasture]

By your definition kaguya is bad

[crude moat]

not really what i was talking about but ok

[crude moat]

the difference is kaguya has some use outside of monarch but zeke doesnt

[knotty river]

what were u trying to say then

[zinc wraith]

that can

[knotty river]

whats date a live

[crude moat]

no point in spinning traits on zeke if you absolutely need monarch on him just to fulfill his 1 niche with ymir

[lean yarrow]

Ehh could’ve been worded better ngl

[lean yarrow]

Kurumi

[patent pasture]

Hes decent, his dps isnt half bad, and gigantification can still kill pretty strong bosses without monarch. Hes mediocre compared to most units but is the best unit this upd imo.

[knotty river]

then say that not what u just said

[knotty river]

is this a romance anime or sum bro

[lean yarrow]

It definitely has some romance aspects

Well it’s all about that shi

[crude moat]

ur the one who misinterpreted it

[knotty river]

its like shounen romance cross anime

[knotty river]

no you just said stupid shit bro

[lean yarrow]

Watch it and you’ll understand fr

[knotty river]

dont try to blame me for this

[crude moat]

if you get all his needed conditions then yeah he is the best in the update

[knotty river]

what update would y'all like to see in av

update(s)

[crude moat]

delusional

[lean yarrow]

Tokyo ghoul and fire force

[knotty river]

"when the "optimal use" is having monarch then he isnt good" ur quote btw

[zinc wraith]

the daily life of the inmortal king (will never happend)

[knotty river]

fairs but they already dropped tamaki and hibana so theres like no hope

[lean yarrow]

And another aot upd

[knotty river]

X.5 update would be cool ig

[lean yarrow]

Scrap everything and just return allat

Rerun

[knotty river]

idk anyone except ainz

oh yeah

[zinc wraith]

is not overlord

[lean yarrow]

Yea I know fuck them

[zinc wraith]

[knotty river]

oh

💔

[lean yarrow]

BUT

THEY COULD ADD

ARTHUR

SHINRA

[knotty river]

sho

[lean yarrow]

BENIMARU

[knotty river]

ogun

[zinc wraith]

benimaru as a epic unit

[knotty river]

YES we all want benimaru as a rare unit

[lean yarrow]

Who else is there that’s cool

[knotty river]

as amatter of fact make a new common tier

[lean yarrow]

Shinrabanshoman vanguard when

[knotty river]

not really much else but thats more than enough material for an update

[crude moat]

yeah you definitely didnt read what the original guy said

[knotty river]

your quote dumbass

if it's main interpretation is that you said something dumb

we not focusing on that other guys response its YOURS

you said shit that is not true

[lean yarrow]

They could add the white clad folks

[crude moat]

if you read my message (which was a reply) and didnt understand it cuz u dont have any context then thats on u

[knotty river]

yeah i said sho

[knotty river]

"i think apples are red"
"no apples are orange"

[lean yarrow]

I ALMOST FORGOT ABOHT KOKED

[knotty river]

basically what u said

[lean yarrow]

JOKER

THEY CAN ADD JOKER

[knotty river]

joker from aba

[lean yarrow]

HOWD I FORGET ABOUT JOKER

[crude moat]

never said anything close to that gng but whatever u say

[lean yarrow]

He’s in aba?

[knotty river]

as a skin i think

for soembody

i remember seeing it somewhere

or maybe im schizo

[lean yarrow]

I am going to go ahead and uh

Be nonchalant

[knotty river]

?

[knotty river]

ok but what ab tokyo ghoul

[lean yarrow]

They can js add the entire roster vro

And jjba

I want a good

[knotty river]

bro i haven't watched tokyo ghoul and the most popular characters i can think of are like

[lean yarrow]

Jojos update

[knotty river]

kaneki

uhhh

the one with the cool looking wings

uhm

[lean yarrow]

Yea ggs

[knotty river]

yeah icl give me 5 minutes to make a google search

[knotty river]

juuzou

arima

idk gng

[lean yarrow]

💔 🥀 ✌️

[knotty river]

thats like 3 people

[knotty river]

touka yeah

4 people

idk bro

just drop arima and kaneki and them 2

adn we get an upd

[knotty river]

also icl bro

this aint happening 😭

we got diavolo as a banner vang

and p7 update

and we know how the devs are

[knotty river]

h

[pulsar jolt]

These developers seem stupid, it's not possible, they're going to put one of the best characters for a Vanguard Quest update, in a banner, with unbearable portals

[knotty river]

like cmon bro

did they not learn from kaguya that nobdoy likes banner vanguards

[pulsar jolt]

just wait for the trailer and the update to find out if they will change anything]

[knotty river]

there was already a sneak that got leaked

there were no other 7ds units

[pulsar jolt]

good?

[knotty river]

yeah i starred it

check in the back of the image where his hair ir all flamey

not a single 7ds unit 😭

[pulsar jolt]

they wouldn't show the units now, just in the trailer

[pulsar jolt]

lol

[knotty river]

ts aint real

[hexed reef]

Those just look like random other models to me tbh

[knotty river]

None of those random models are meliodas and thats what matters to me 💔

[hexed reef]

They’re not even the summer units either

Actually

Those look like the enemies from the cid raid I think

[knotty river]

u might be right where their clothes at tho

[hexed reef]

Who knows

They were probably unfinished models

[knotty river]

so this basically confirms the 7ds update then 💯 🔥

[hexed reef]

Maybe first drafts or just placeholder models to work on hair

[knotty river]

oh

its cause their clothes are just roblox clothing

not models

[hexed reef]

Ah

That makes sense, he didn’t model any actual clothes on the enemies

[steady vortex]

There wasn't a lot of units that update now that I realize...

[knotty river]

Yeah, the amount of content (Story Stage, Legend Stage, DMC, Portal, Odyssey, Weekly Challenge, UI Changes and a plethora of QOL changes) really helped that update

[ripe bear]

I thought we just got another leak 😔

Actually why would they just have the cid raid enemies alongside the other units

[hexed reef]

Because that's just the plate the modeler works on

That's why you can see stuff like the dbz units behind them too

No reason to make a clean slate for every new batch of units

[wide steeple]

you can see healer and shiny gazelle😭

[steady vortex]

Probably Yamamoto's skeletons

[ripe bear]

thats the new quest vangaurd

[old hollow]

banner confirmed man

[ripe bear]

i forgot to reply to due i was taking about the yama skeletons

[knotty river]

cant tell if this is giselle's or yama's summon

[hexed reef]

yama's

giselle is just "the enemy"

[knotty river]

oh

[knotty river]

i could've sworn she just spawned skeletons n stuff

[knotty river]

B

[knotty river]

B

[knotty river]

BRO

AV WHY

WHERE S MELIODAS

WHERE IS BAN

WHERE ARE MY 7 DEADLY SINS UPDATE

IDONT CARE ANYMORE

DROP IT AS A X.5

DROPTHEM AS SIDE ONN RELATE USING UNITS TO .NUPDATE

JUST GIVE ME MY MELIODAS BAN AND KING

[hexed reef]

In the future

Maybe

[ripe bear]

Bro nbc about 7ds that fandom died alongside escanor

[agile glacier]

Just give the 7ds community 1 more unit and then they will shut up (Meliodes and Escanor is all they need)

[loud turret]

i really hope they dont make escanor a banner unit

[zinc wraith]

we lose 7ds fans

[marble dune]

escanor is totally a quest unit

[loud turret]

cant wait for the update to find out

[hexed reef]

Yeah, the quest is "farm 3 million currency"

[coral merlin]

[torn surge]

LMAO