#Hard Content, Team Building Critique and Improvements
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u lit just evo a unit and u can use it in that
yeah odyssey gives like 1 shard for 10 rounds or som ass
odyseey has no stats or traits
wASNT everyone against team building?
?
like they dont like the fact ur forced to use aot numbers all together for them to be good
wdym?
if i go play odysessy it doesnt take your traits or stats in it
Yes it sounds dumb but i think only way is to just allow both like most game modes, just making traitless take less time, and traited take more since its more braindead (ie what ex stages could have been tbh)
read what i wrote, you can incentivize players to run units but there should be alot of viable options
it does
spam rimuru and ragna and u clear it easy
tahts the limitless mode right?
💔
the normal mode lets you take traits
Yea
both
6 minutes each stage x 50 stages is 5 hours
lemme check cause im pre sure it doesnt
i must be tripping then cuz i swear you could use traits in odyssey just not the limitless mode
i clear most stages in 4/5 mins
You can
Not in limitless tho
show
Only in reg
i finished it alr
how do i go to floor 1...
do stage 50
Do floor 50
and also even 1 minute difference its still 4-5 hours so it doesnt really matter
Where did he go
what do you have to do with frieren
unfollowed the thread 💔
There ain’t no way
one of my favorite anime characters
Bro was 100% capping
mine too
oh i must have been seeing things
and i dont send 50 frieren gifs 😭
Is the manga good
I was thinking of reading it
what are ur different fav characters
Buddy
better than the anime honestly
well imo anime is better
they do miss some stuff like any anime adaptation
HOWEVER
one of the arcs
in Frierens manga
is fucking cinema
absolute cinema
I got spoiled on one of the arcs
"The Golden City"
:)
there all good but dude
Where Friean got sent to the past
Golden city genuinly is one of my favorite arcs oat
Tatsumi vanguard when
this shows 5'33
yeah thats pretty late
yea 5:33 playtime
Denji, Frieren, Artoria, Jalter and Nero are my favorites oat
but u still spend 5'33
🤷🏻
Hes trying to say
there are a lot of neros in all sorts of media
im all for the free engagment 
Something like that
im saying u cant do lb
Nero Claudius from Fate
and that ur units arent good
so you really like fate
4 hours and its a harder floor
top 3 for me
They made 2 fate suggestions
so it takes longer
3
=250
i want to go further to fate but i watched all the animes and dont wanna play the game so i dont know what i should do next
Shirou Suggestion
Fgo Suggestion
Fgo Suggestion #2
I get 6 minutes on my wl
where are you in the story rn?
That’s still close to your time of 4 hours or whatever
I still don’t see your point
im saying ur units are bad bc they clear slow
Ok?
Xcool now you gotta do a inv reveal
so obv traited content wouldnt be for u
I have every unit in the game
Except wl and tourneys
Because I only do wl for the traits
monarch spread?
i only watched the anime of fate and the game crashed for me the second i opened it on my phone so i didnt do anything in it
I got all the best monarchs fr fr
So like all of Stay night?
big 3
Monarch Diego is based asf
Fr
It’s not like I got him on accident or something
and apocrypha and babylonia singularity
100% planned
forgot about that but yes
Watch every single spin off no matter the cost
mostly i would want to know if there is any fate novel or manga cuz i like reading
there is
And only read fate heavens feel chapter 30
for FGO there is a manga
for 1/3 of the story
the rest is VN
lemme pull up what i sent to Xcool
Do not read this btw
Just watch the movies smh
or read the actual original VN

there is a emulator for it
has all the actual og scenes
it even has the "forbbiden worms" and the H scenes
what
been slowly playing it
you don't want to know
I think their talking about the mana transfer scenes
im not
Well then idk
average miso beef post (its peak)
Ok
so can you tell me how am i supposed to watch 2178 episodes of the playthrough? 😭
lol why are so mmany people talk here 😭 and its not even about the post
Yes
What
LOL
im gonna try one more time
i swear if i fail you don't get to see the forbidden worms
i dont think im ever gonna experience fate that way 😭
just read the manga
and watch a bit of the anime
cuz why not
is there a tldr for this suggestion
Copy it all to chat gpt or smt
i didn't even real allat
just read bro
it takes less then 5 minutes
I read it while rerolling in limbus
ill put a TLDR for my suggestion in a bit
gonna have to try and explain all my points in like a paragraph or 2
bro they could easily do a limbus company unit for the anni
lets see the Chat gpt summary of my suggestion mabye it doesint actually do a bad job
i mean ig its alright?
i kinda misses some key points
send it
one second
i feel like thats pretty good
thats too much still
NO SHOT
its not though...
Bc post dont make sense
why does it have 86 reactions when people disagrees?
huh?
elaborate Mr.Mushy
caught for what 😭
Not agreeing with the suggestions
i was just talking about anime with someone bro
yeah and we discussed that bro and we came to an agreement
💔
do you guys not read or something
i didn't read
no
can u blame me
ok then don't try to agree with a point thats wrong 😭
if you don;t even know what your talking about
in #「📊」game-polls People said they don't like team building
or being forced to do so
to achieve higher goals
okay they shouldn't play what do you want me to do
no they don't like teambuilding that is to restrictive...
like AOT
AHAH 😭 LOL
there is a major difference between my points and the design philophy of aot units and i even tookt he time to point that out
"no we want to take our monarch kaguya to every single game mode"
go play rng games atp
guess you didint read before saying shit mushy
what the f
Anyway my suggestion clears (i have no idea what this suggestion is about(
One is 1800 words and another is 300 words man
what even is your suggestion bro
Longer then buus passives

i think buus passive is longer
the infinite content thing
im going to put a X

Nooo 😭
Holy aura…..
Wth does gambler even mean 😭 how did u even get ts
Gamble
Lvl 50
Reading your essay takes longer then finding the blue flowers on the first episode of frieren
when are we getting a limbus company character
one day for a random BP
hopefully its a sinking id
bump
why cross out disadvantages?
Cause someone convinced it could potentially be a bad idea
So i crossed it out but you can still read it
(The discussion is right under the post)
Honestly I think more hard content should be promoted, with good mechanics, but not need to take 175 tries on a 1% chance to get
I don't think the community fully hates hard content
more so that its like "why do i have to do this hard stage 175 times for pity on a 1% drop"
I agree
But the game does need to be grindy too
I think lowering most pities is fine but some are fine
No unit should take more than 60 stages tbh
I think pities like for Yama is absolutely ridiculous
Especially if theyre hellbent on making everything but unknown miserable to use
mechanically hard yet fun stages would be the way to go imo.....
pretty much any legend stage unit
aside from things like buu or elphelt (unfortunately)
boss rush too
something like that
DUDE I HAD 100 RUNS ON BLEACH LEGEND STAGE 3 BEFORE PITY WAS ADDED AND MY 100 RUNS BEFORE PITY DIDNT EVEN FUIVKCING COUNT TOWARDS PITY
unironically just gave up on getting yama
😭
I don’t know if they would ever compromise on lowering pity though
It is a roblox game afterall
yknow how raids have luck things you can buy to increase drop chance permanently?
why dont we have those for legend stages .
or boss rush
Been asking for that since it was first introduced man
Everytime a thread about pity was posted
Im there
“Why not just add fortune catalyst to legend”
Kind agave up since i never thought pity would come
there should be grind, but i think some units (like really good ones) should be looked behind extremely skilled and strategy based stages that only take like what
5 tries to get/
175 tries on a easy stage that you will most likely use ahk just makes you wonder "when will you get the unit"
5 tries on a extremely hard stage will probably make you feel way better
whats the problem with this game rn?
Theres alot…
tell me
Well in my opinion these are the major ones
-
Update schedule
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Lack of content which is a result of there update schedule
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Some questionable decisions with stage and enemy design
You could also say lack of endgame content, Models look wonky, Passives being silly sometimes, Grinds being horrendous for some stages
List goes on
wdym by endgame content
Modes that let you use the full extent of all the units you grinded
I should have spent my time reading this instead of Naruto bs...
We have Pvp, Tourney, Worldines and inf Lb rn
2 of which suck ass rn
And Tourney is to short
Worldlines is fine but lacks rewards
Get reading 📖
PVP - Ass
Tourney - Wait till Yhwach isnt banned
Worldline - just inf castle
inf lb - for the whales of the game
Yeah end game is dog
Inf lb is lowkey the most f2p lb ngl lol, wl is way more trait dependent. Ig wl and tourneys also do have traitless so there is that
Heard inf LB is dead
Its always been the same
Same group of people running it for ages
Kinda how it be
personally idm the update schedule but i know that the average roblox player's attention span isnt great
They need to push out X.5 updates faster
Thats about it
I love comparing AV to ASTD, ALS, AWTD, FGO and Pokemons 😭 but all said is true imo. Like, honestly, "variety" we get is "this modifier blocks meter units!". Oh well, then ig i just have to use units without meter? I said it once, and i'll say it again, but why does "varity" comes with ban system instead of buff system. I don't think it's so hard to make a modifier like "Ambush", that, for example, let enemy debuff solo units, but receive more damage from allied units (like, Eren + Zeke being on map = AoT team and so they both deal more damage). And that'd have been cooler for Ackerman's mechanic of unique placement. Tho don't know bout new difficulty
X.0 can stay eveyr 3-4 weeks as ling as we get 2 weeks for X.5
Whats wrong with new difficulty?
Its annoying to me that a post covering just a few of the great points in this one, has more votes
Which?
My opinions on hard mode by owoflex
Oh
He posted a few more hours earlier then me, and closer to when it got flooded yesterday
So alot more people saw it
As my personal nitpicking tho, i just hope they won't delete elemental reaction and instead save it for some difficulty. Like, add "fire deal 3x damage to nature" for normal difficulties and make it only 1,5x with current reactions to new/high difficulties. Maybe that's why i dislike the idea of difficulty that does pretty much a job of "lock most rng mechanics" (traits, familiars, tho idk if it's that hard for people to get all slots)
He goes over some of the stuff u pointed out but u also gave the resonance idea for team synergy which would be amazing
In my personal opinion i like limit factors in team building it makes people have to think around them and be more creative
I love having to make team comps, they could make categories and leaders as well but that would require adding to a lot of units different leader skills
The resonance is a great substitute for that in a already established game
Yeah but it's not a thing for new difficulty. It's good for competitive modes, but not grind ones. Locking traits and familiars is more of making it fair among players, not between players and actual stage
Idk if i explained it correctly/fully
The idea is its harder but more rewarding
So less grinding
I mean your not going to be “grinding” my concept of the new difficulty
Its once a day
Yeah your gonna want to complete it and jt rewards you for it
However it can’t be abused so that people who aren’t good enough or don’t want to be challenged don’t feel bad about it
Time gated rewards are the best way to improve this game
In most situations yes
Ok it took me a moment to visualize it (3:48 am hits hard 💔 ) but isn't it just another daily challenge then? In some way. Still can't see how actually it will be difficult. Sorry if dumdum
Regardless, too much (99% i agree with) good points, so i upvote and just hope whatever in my head will get sorted out over night
from what ive heard its just not appealing to alot of players
They removed the the auto upg suggestion man
“People complain about tedious setup for units like the aot ones so why not give people more space to set up by automating the boring part of td and allowing people to focus on coordinating unit passives?”
No one likes having to do 100 actions per minute micromanaging passives on top of upgrades
So how about shift the focus to primarily passive management
And auto upgrade wont make the game easier
For harder stages it will be theoretically impossible to use
micromanaging....
elphelt...
inf wl lb..
the ptsd
now i have to go through that again for this inf wl lb
bro😭😭
i think we do
Av plays like a idle game it should have idle game features
not particularly
elaborate
and note
I said like an idle game, however i am not saying Av is one (Fully)
yeah nvm i go back on this (wasnt entirely sure of the definition of an idle game)
AV has idle game core elements but i dont think its leaning towards what an idle game is enough to warrant shit like auto upgrade
and you see the thing is
HSR and Battle cats have features
which FULLY automate gameplay
maybe for specific modes (such as infinite)
and those games are more active/strategic then AV will ever be
so i don't see why a watered down version of autoplay is so hated
bounties and half hourlies too but if they add it at all what’s the point of not adding it to everything
its not like it fully automates the game either
fair point
Its cuz if they ever add smth where u gotta use ur brain people will be like “bah why cant i beat this, this too hard” cuz instead of trying to figure out a solution they just keep bashing the rock on the lock until it eventually opens or they give up and call rock a bad tool
Av community got to lock in bro
yeah ill probably do more suggestions like this for a bit before going back to the stage suggestion cave
reception was alot better then i anticipated
Genuinely reason we kinda atp is cuz community complained game was too ez, now game too hard
Ye if suggestions didnt get locked these would probably get way more stars
im bouta drop a bomb suggestion
mods hes about to bomb the server
i mean iwth the suggestion
ceck dms

I want a season 2
Were getting it no?
They had a trailer and everything
(You are not ready for peak)
I read the manga
I am so fricking ready
I want all of it animated
Still sad how frieren got robbed at the awards
My english May be ass
But i hope yk what i mean
I couldint watch it
Moment i heard them saying So-
I frame one dipped
I should had done that too
Its so overrated :C.
Many other anime deserved some of those awards
Average anime awards moments
Himmel not winning side character of the year
Robbed
Rigged
Absolutly
To loooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg
It was not a good night
Mabye it was actually a good one
well
we barely saw him tbh
Yet he had such a large impact on the story
Hes the goat in my heart man

Bump
I still can’t believe thats actually real
Thought people were joking
all the units from this update are super bad 😭
im gonna get the galaxy unit anyways since im braindead
From where ever i find my art refrences
Hint
Most artists use this site to find refrences
samsung unot go brrr
Hard Content and Team Building Critique and Improvements
Hard Content, Team Building Critique and Improvements
Better
Bump
i agree but i feel like hard mdoe having significantly better rates is fine
but only when its hard like really hard
yeah but 90% of the time "hard" just means a dps check or smth
yea
if they plan on adding really hard modes with better rates then they should be traitless and actually hard
Silly little fish eye lens sketch i did today
details were hard cuz i drew it so damn small
Ts feels offensive
I’ll have u know
I hy can’t I use the sharkmoji
The 3d model
With the tongue out
Veo I use apple phone
Yea I lowkey don’t feel like reading allat
But basically ur saying is
More stage variety
Did u just put my shi into chat got
More rewarding shite
Pretty much
someone explain it suggestion in fortnite terms
So what he’s saying is
I never played frorjnite
No I js looked at the heading
And skipped the yap
If someone read allat with great interest
They’re a bot
Certified bot
Like I love yapping
But the people want concise text
Not a story
It’s av
Not a job application
Chuillaz brochaho
UNBOUND NERF??!!!
So what im asking for is different type of fortnite loadouts, instead of having the pump shotgun be meta we can introduce more shotguns like the double barrel or tacitcal shotgun and have them used in different battle royale gamemodes
I crossed it out man

Yo chillax
Lemme eat bro
I was midst cutting my chicken
L
Be glad miso chicken
I aint no chicken yo
Are you implying that you’re a living breathing functional miso beef
I almost typed miso beer
Shoutout to my autocorrect
Yeah
Wouldint be eating chicken otherwise
so the suggestion wants to make elements have a more important role outside of portals and a unique buff from the stage itself (aka cid raid example of meter gain)
the new difficulty scare me
💔
A pretty good way to summarize my 1st and second point
Why 😭
av players dont know how to strategize and think
It was NOT that bad vro
they should add traits to btd6 and the battle cats
Heck having the second row of slots wasn’t a big deal lowkey
birb farming
took me like 200 tries to get bullet train because one slot was full of team combos 
fucking r.ost
his fucking crits crushed my dreams and hopes
got hard legend rare and uber carried in that stage
shi was free
besides the bird guy
juust had to time Bahamut right
my only uber was the luga with long legs and i had to use the double island combo 
got monarch kaguya 🙏 prayed for days like this
nice man
Slight Legend Carry

now u get it
i mean
battle cats they say
but like the lower rarity stuff are 90% cats
u use cats they say
which also make up most of the game
but i see everything BUT cats rn 😭
theres more
but i uh
don't wanna send the rest of my inv
neat
I hope i do been rr on kaguya for a while now
Bro cid raid is a example and it already being used in the game
What if it's like Jojo raid where you only farm for the unit the leave
Have you ever tried the Jojo raid where everything is 90% weaker besides water and nature that just punishment
Again like i said just because Cid is the most prominent unit in the hypothetical stage
Does not make him the only usable option
Literally use any other meter unit and they will also be meta
Thats the whole point of the concept 
where are your almighties young fellow
you are missing the fat one forgot his name he's actually quite a good almighty lol
gib me gaia tho 😦
I don’t remember any almighty being fat
i meant hades my bad lol i just called him fat bc he's very tanky
didnt play much battle cats in like the last year so idk how relevant he is but he is very underrated
Skibidy ngl
im too lazy to even log in 😭
So much yap
You gotta check out this artist (Yunayu)
Been following her yt vids for art tips for a while now
Can confirm is the goat
do you do ur own art thingies
I do art, i don’t really post it.
I post occasionally in the art channel in this server and some others
cuz you have the artist role
I’ll forward the last sketch i did in the artworks tab rq
Lemme see if i have any of my digital drawing saved on my phone
i really like digital art
but i dont really follow any of that stuff
but i know it can take a lot of time and effort
my pfp which i have rn was drawn by my friend about 4-5 years ago and i only changed it a couple of times and then changed back into it
The only one i have saved on my phone

I know its not an 100% original work but im pretty proud of it because its accurate
Did it for practice
Yeah
I got no talent for this stuff
So i gotta work harder
this looks like straight from the anime
i dont know what i should say more honestly it just looks like a frame taken out of the anime, i like it when the art is actually accurate to the original work and has a similar style and stuff
dont know if thats a good thing or not
I mean yeah that was the whole point of the study
I think i messed up on a few things
But all that matters is that the general image look accurate
Close enough

BOCCHI!!!!!
So well made
Honestly couldn’t tell if it was a official anime promo artwork or not
oh?
beginner artist i assume, just keep working at it and never quit.
It wouldint take alot of time to actually get better then me 
well as long as you have a proper path for learning
the best path is to teach yourself everything about stocks and finances and buy a business
are you saying that this will guarantee me success?

I think u like Friedan
Bump
bump
Alr will finally add a Summary
Lemme finish reading this manga first
Manga is questionable but i have ti finish im to deep down the rabbit hole
what manga
Boys Abyss
Dawg its just straight sadness
Even when buddy left the town its still sad
i found it entertaining bc ppl kept making bad decisions
some of their decisions were justified tho bc of what theyve gone thru
big bump
Famous last words

ok
mabye just one more
i gotta make it even
yep
bye bye world

Hey atleast i have her now...
Atleast your next S is guaranteed


Gulp
yeah we need a summary of the summary
NO SHOT

Idk how im gonna make it any shorter then it already is
bum
p
just a super friendly reminder to check out my stage suggestions
#1391229761468108830
#1353513423987802152
Miso on their frieren arc
this one arc in the manga just got me hooked rn
Polk
B
Let’s not forget to not make hard content very repetitive
Cid raid was really well built
But waaay too repetitive
As in you gotta clear it alot of times
AoT EX stage has 15% chance for Eren, I’d say that’s mad tuff
They just need to find their balance between technicality and repetition because i think all future ex stages should be designed around how erens is now
Like for baiken they coulda done it so not only is ex stage a higher chance for the bottle, but it grants 2-3 the original kills rather then just the one (so the quest progresses faster) where as stage 3 would have had a 15% for bottle and only granted one the original kill
That tracks
me casting fireball in the streets of new york, fuck everyone
what did they do to you bruh
stinky new yorkers
u should create a fanart of shinra holding a banjo cuz hes shinra banjo man
busy working on a stage suggestion
Me petting suggestions before they murdered it
Hopefully the new patch is good
Idk how i feel about the new patch
u got a new fate unit tho
the u word is banned
chat
Wth



