#My Trait System Rework Suggestion

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tacit flint
snow crystal
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i mean im not crying yk cuz im good like that but its still a shit system

narrow ruin
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yeah i agree monarch itself is shitty idea, but tbh u won't max out all units with eth for example - monrach trait should make your units a little more expenisve, or eth/solar/deadeye should make your units a little cheaper

snow crystal
narrow ruin
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and now i have 10

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i still need monarch on kaguya on my alt tho

snow crystal
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plus

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i hate monarchs

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like kaguya monarch

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like she just clears EVERYTHING

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so boring

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i dont even bother getting the new units

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uz i know even with monarch on them they aint beatin this

narrow ruin
narrow ruin
snow crystal
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fuck the units tbh

narrow ruin
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i hope escanor will bring back purgatory flames🙏

snow crystal
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kaguya monarch is just too good

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escanor can save

narrow ruin
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i have to do world lines with this team😭

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im playing on my alt on which i can't spend any games so i dont have any farm

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only kaguya can save me

steel bloom
steel bloom
narrow ruin
steel bloom
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But are still summoning

steel bloom
narrow ruin
narrow ruin
steel bloom
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So i might grind reimu and sakuya

idle mirage
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Get cid -> cid unkown element -> kaguya unkown element -> kaguya slams

narrow ruin
narrow ruin
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im gonna probably do as much wl as i can then rerol on kaguya more

steel bloom
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Sokura waaay easier, but you have to wait unfortunately

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I gotta start from scratch

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And worst of all

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No summon purely drop chances and bp

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With me luck guys 💔

proud narwhal
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yep

narrow ruin
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gn

proud narwhal
proud narwhal
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bump

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bump

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boop

proud narwhal
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bvump

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bump

main owl
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Bump

limpid estuary
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whats the point of bump atm 😭😭

proud narwhal
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💔

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and also because more ppl can see it

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theres no point not bumping

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itll be here for only 2 wekes

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weeks

limpid estuary
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reaction and being noticed 💔 🥀

plush magnet
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Bomp

plush magnet
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It was meant to be

proud narwhal
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true

plush magnet
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Dead chat!!

trim heath
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I'm gonna say it now, new traits are almost certainly not coming to the table. Anything that's supposed to increase buff potency or affect swap meters or affect summons or whatever else is something to be remedied by familiars. They're a bit more farmable, controllable, and adaptable than traits ever would be. Especially because they don't bloat the trait pool with things that would be otherwise useless to get on a unit. And some of them are just straight up unbalanced by concept, like Duplicative.

Familiars are supposed to be the answer to target specific types of units, because there's no point to changing the trait system now with how deep it's gone

proud narwhal
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if your going to make aspects better make them good atleast

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bird is the only familiar worth using on 98% of the units

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black spirit was good

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and ill admit that duplicative isnt balanced, its 1 of the like 6 traits i suggested, and im also not a balancer so of course its not going to be as balanced as it would be

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also clearly a lot of people dont feel that way with traits being too far gone, monarch would still be the king, but these traits lessen the gap

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i wouldnt want anything but monarch on my kaguya

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even with these traits

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i appreciate the actual response tho

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even if it seems dumb imo (not you, just their inability to change a clearly broken system)

sour cloak
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especially after birb and strange cat

proud narwhal
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if your going to add something like familiars make more than 2 actually useful

sour cloak
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JUST AS A EXCUSE TO PLAY ODYSSEY

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its geniunely embarrassing

proud narwhal
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i suggested this because they seem more inclined to change stuff/listen compared to before

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if it cant be added

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well im still going to bump it

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sour cloak
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they know ody is a shit mode

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and they make familiars that are braindead with rng

proud narwhal
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i mean

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tbf

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im playing odyssey rn 💔

sour cloak
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just “manually” play nm br

proud narwhal
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i still like av

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and its not like i dont have monarchs

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but it feels terrible to play when you dont

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and monarchs overshadow all your other units

proud narwhal
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like even though i have sjw, hes deadeye

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and i just place aizen/kaguya instead

sour cloak
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you got mon kaguya

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youre good

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but ayeah a mon vsjw is still hella good

proud narwhal
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and this was mainly made in response to them saying they'll powerscale more

sour cloak
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for “manual” play

proud narwhal
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if 7.5/8.0 units are all super meta/broken then how is a f2p player supposed to get enough rrs for that

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als can powerscale because 1500000 things give rrs

sour cloak
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they just need more ways to get rrs

proud narwhal
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i dont mind powerscaling either

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i think thats good

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but if they do

sour cloak
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i dont LIKE units requiring you 3 fucking units to be useful

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like holy shit

proud narwhal
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either more traits (so you dont need monarch on every unit) or more rrs

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even with the lower pity its like 3-4 weeks for 1 monarch

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i appreciate his response tho

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idk how official it is since hes only a tester tho

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hopefully a dev would like it more 🥀

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since it HAS gotten a lot of support

sour cloak
proud narwhal
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thats a fair thing to say

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hes not in charge of the game at all

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but hes like

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the only person with a role greater than one you can get by levels that actually responds to shit

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#1398161392867213412 was my main suggestion tho

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this one was just for the powerscaling issue they're probably going to face

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i will continue to use my kaguya and 1 tap most things while upgrading nothing else 👍

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sorry if that sounded mad

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odyssey sucks

trim heath
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And the entire point behind familiars is to be RNG heavy because chasing for the optimization is really just an optional thing

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Like birb

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"if you're trying for a perfect birb, you're either bored or dumb"

proud narwhal
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but its bad because bird (and sometimes, rarely black spirit) are the only familiars youd actually use

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if you want mini traits

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like how als has enchants for example

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make more than 2 useful

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its a good system

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just needs to be fleshed out more

sour cloak
proud narwhal
sour cloak
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bc they spent a lot of time in it

proud narwhal
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but when you max out the pheos for that

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uhhh

sour cloak
proud narwhal
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eren boss rush

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👍

sour cloak
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its useless

sour cloak
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just get ymir and the other 2 for rumbling

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then boom

proud narwhal
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thank you for the insight though nether

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im still going to bump it because i want to hear people's opinions on it

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but i hope it pushes more creative familiars in the future

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a

proud narwhal
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bump

proud narwhal
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bump

proud narwhal
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Bump

cobalt crown
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bump

eager wadi
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#1398626963983171749

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Trust me ts not a plug

eager wadi
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They js made the gap formed by traits worse with familiars

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No justification

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Familiars should be scrapped

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Or make it so that it comes with set stats

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And can be craftable

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Fuck familiars pmo

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But element traits 😼

proud narwhal
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not

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exactly actually

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now that I looked

eager wadi
proud narwhal
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but I do agree elements need more impact

proud narwhal
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also that would suck for people who spent a lot

eager wadi
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Data wiped nd shi are a thing already

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So wipe traits

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And rework them

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Also js reward the players who spent a lot with uh some coupons or some shi idk

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Look at aa

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They took everyone’s money

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And didn’t even slide some coupons

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So who tf cares

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They can view it as uh

proud narwhal
eager wadi
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A donation

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Like they spent their money not on traits

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But like an investment

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Towards the greater evil

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The greater good

eager wadi
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#1398467986427215893

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Check out my uh

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Friends theeed

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Thread

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Yea pretty cool shi here

proud narwhal
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that looks cool

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unfortunately people don’t like reading

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best way to do it is just how Pokemon does it

eager wadi
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I don’t play pokenond

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Oh like Pokémon

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Yea that’s simple

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#1398679039497081003

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So kinda like this

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Speaking of the devil

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Here he is

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Wait wait wait

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I am schizophrenic

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Wrong guy

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Carry on

proud narwhal
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Bump

cobalt crown
eager wadi
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I don’t speak English

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But I for sure know

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That u just said uh

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Kaiser fire emoji

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Because of that

cobalt crown
eager wadi
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Two more Kaiser edits

eager wadi
cobalt crown
eager wadi
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I am so fucking funny

cobalt crown
eager wadi
cobalt crown
eager wadi
cobalt crown
proud narwhal
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Bump

proud narwhal
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it’s over guys

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but we still bump

snow crystal
proud narwhal
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but we still cope and we still bump

proud narwhal
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Bump

proud narwhal
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Bump

proud narwhal
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Bump

eager wadi
floral tartan
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barely anyone wants monarch changed

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but the other traits

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I can garentee almost everyone wants those changed

novel radish
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You love to see it

shell pewter
novel radish
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Real

grand radish
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How do I get to the top 🥀

shell pewter
grand radish
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Can't find it gg

trim heath
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Pyseph's right in saying that trait changes would cause an insane amount of outrage and backlash ELUX_shrug

trim heath
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I say a lot

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Not all

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🥀

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There are some actual good suggestions too, unfortunately some of those fall into the third category too.

halcyon prism
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💯

tacit flint
eager wadi
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Fuck traits

tacit flint
eager wadi
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If the game is already dying

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Gotta do the right things

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Before it’s completely cooked

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Scrapping traits and familiars or reworking them completely

tacit flint
eager wadi
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Is undeniably the best thing to do

tacit flint
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where instead of helping it causes controversy and makes it die faster

eager wadi
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Waiting for the inevitable end is stupid

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And anyone who says that making a bad move is blah blah blah

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Vro

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Av won’t have a second chance

tacit flint
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😮‍💨

eager wadi
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They already revived once

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Again?

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Chances aren’t high

tacit flint
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lets just see in the upcoming updates

eager wadi
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Players are getting fed up with the same slop

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Av is a sitting duck

tacit flint
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if they truly are dying and can't comeback

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they should do some expiremental changes

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otherwise there still in a relativly safe position

eager wadi
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Av will never be good

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Their core is rotten

tacit flint
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what

eager wadi
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No matter how hard they try to conceal it and run away from it

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They’re still the aa replacement

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Theyre

tacit flint
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oh

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🥀

eager wadi
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It’s already over for them

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They can pump out as many upds they want

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The core will always remain the same

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They’re scared

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Of what there is to lose

trim heath
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And the core is?

eager wadi
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They can run away from it will all the cool and unique features that they release with every upd

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See where that got them

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They didn’t salvage what they already have

trim heath
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I mean, yeah, that's what it was initially when the game first released

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And as the team has changed, the direction of the game has too ELUX_shrug

eager wadi
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Scrap traits and familiars rework them honestly scrap av and push towards avx right miso?

eager wadi
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Direction is still same

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Just with slight additions

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U can see it from the polls

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Stop being so blind cuh

trim heath
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I still don't see how not wanting to change/scrap traits to avoid community outrage is "an excuse" but you do you pal

tacit flint
shell pewter
eager wadi
trim heath
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They'd be sacrificing the entire game doing that.

eager wadi
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They’re already sacrificing the game with each upd

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So why not put it all on the line

trim heath
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New traits would just unnecessarily bloat the pool while never really coming close to the strength of convenience monarch provides

eager wadi
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With one huge push

eager wadi
trim heath
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Way too late for that

eager wadi
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Like everyone else

trim heath
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It's just funny

eager wadi
trim heath
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No it's not gang Sob4k

eager wadi
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It’s not like av is sitting at a 100k cup

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Ccu

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Ccu

trim heath
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You deadass just want to kill the game off

eager wadi
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Tell me NetherResonant

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What’s ur ideal gameplan

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If all else fails

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Add a new mode?

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Maybe add a new vanguard??

tacit flint
eager wadi
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Oh how about

trim heath
main owl
eager wadi
tacit flint
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based asf

eager wadi
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How about

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How about u

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How about u uh give pieseoh a therapy session or some sh

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Tf u want me to say

eager wadi
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Regular shit LA water.

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Anyways when are we scrapping jogo and adding jogoat

steel bloom
eager wadi
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Because fuck the minority

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And fuck the bigority

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I mean majority

eager wadi
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It’s still aa at the core

steel bloom
eager wadi
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Even if it has 30k ccu now

steel bloom
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but you arent gettin it, almost ALL of these games rely on traits now

eager wadi
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It’ll most likely spike a bit and fall harder

eager wadi
steel bloom
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literally not

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als trait based

eager wadi
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Literally yes

steel bloom
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astdx has unique and other useless traits

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its a dopamine farm

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bro i dont care if they remove traits

eager wadi
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Ok then I got an idea let’s follow als and give everyone a monarch

steel bloom
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but even games like awtd has traits now

eager wadi
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No need for a rework

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Give everyone a monarch

steel bloom
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bro you arent listening are you, i never said it was GOOD

eager wadi
steel bloom
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nope

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they added them once aa came back

eager wadi
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And loook where they are now

eager wadi
eager wadi
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I just want a reason to hate

steel bloom
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im just saying traits are these games life support, its a dopamine rush for lots of players hence why aa survived because no one wanted to just make an aa copy

eager wadi
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Because life sucks

steel bloom
steel bloom
eager wadi
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What are we even doing here

floral tartan
eager wadi
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Like why are we wasting our time here

steel bloom
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bumping

floral tartan
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Whole minute timeout for that 😂😂

eager wadi
floral tartan
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How can I say

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Fuck av

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But

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Av scks

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Timeouts

eager wadi
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Because that’s gay

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I wouldn’t want anyone to say

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Bachie sucks

limpid dagger
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peak suggestion

eager wadi
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I don’t suck anything

eager wadi
floral tartan
eager wadi
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Nah this suggestion is fucking buns @proud narwhal no offence

floral tartan
trim heath
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So? KEK

eager wadi
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I am a d1 hater now

eager wadi
floral tartan
eager wadi
trim heath
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Why bring it up tho

eager wadi
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Sorry about that my great glorious sigma lord

trim heath
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Pinging attention to suggestions was a mistake Sob4k

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This channel is irredeemable now

eager wadi
floral tartan
eager wadi
slender rock
eager wadi
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Wait is that a right time to use racist

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I am lowkey getting banned for this

floral tartan
eager wadi
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Goodbye everyone

floral tartan
eager wadi
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I’ll miss u all

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No homo

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What does no homo even mean

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I always figured it meant no gay

floral tartan
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So no gay

eager wadi
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Bett

trim heath
eager wadi
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#1398626963983171749

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#1399002223308177480

floral tartan
slender rock
trim heath
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the worldlines one I can already tell you is a no-go just from the rerun stuff/tokens alone

eager wadi
eager wadi
trim heath
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Because the community already cried out about BP unit reruns, they aren't gonna do WL ones too

eager wadi
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I included plenty of other good suggestions

slender rock
floral tartan
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Idek why the community wants bp/worldline unit returns, all off them are ass 😭💔

eager wadi
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Why look at the only ones u dislike and disregard everything else

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Acting like a real king now

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Huh mr lord ass

main owl
eager wadi
trim heath
trim heath
tacit flint
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shamless plug, this suggestion got the sauce and the poster of it is majestic and 7 foot tall

#1398236818755026964

eager wadi
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Because let’s be fr pieseph doesn’t give af

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What do u think about the element traits

floral tartan
eager wadi
trim heath
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Aladdin is also the hardest counter to energy drain/blinded in the game

tacit flint
trim heath
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Outside of just being immune

main owl
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The only bp unit I use is Luce

trim heath
# main owl What does he do

any time an ally is hit with a debuff/status effect, he gains 5% meter. at 100% he cleanses everything in range and give them a damage/range buff if he cleanses them

trim heath
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so against energy drain/blinded which apply debuffs in increments of 5%

main owl
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Why is he a bp unit

eager wadi
# main owl

Got timed out for saying “hit me with that 🐦‍⬛ 🐵 thing too”

trim heath
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Because people complained about energy drain Smile

eager wadi
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So can u please hit me with it

main owl
trim heath
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And that's why some of us wanted to do occasional bp unit obtainment methods

main owl
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But idk

trim heath
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non-shiny and stuff

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But the traders rose up and cried out

main owl
eager wadi
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I don’t even have the honor of the crow ooo oh aaa aa

tacit flint
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nuke trading smh

main owl
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Trading isn’t going to have any value

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They should just scrap it tbh

tacit flint
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we are getting no trading and no traits in avx

eager wadi
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The uu oow aa aa

eager wadi
trim heath
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There's

eager wadi
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Let’s make avx a thing

trim heath
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things about it that's planned

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that I can't really say unfortunately

eager wadi
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Probbably gonna get sued by av

tacit flint
eager wadi
eager wadi
tacit flint
eager wadi
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I’ll have u know

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I have a degree

tacit flint
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do you have scripting experince though

eager wadi
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No I got yap experience

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The only scripts I make

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Are the scripts for the local recitals

tacit flint
main owl
eager wadi
trim heath
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I don't think the bp unit reruns would've impacted trading that much though Sob4k

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I hate trading so much

main owl
lavish thicket
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they fs would

eager wadi
main owl
lavish thicket
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they woudl destroy their value

main owl
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Aa made idol came back because how op she was

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And she still had value

eager wadi
lavish thicket
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wasn’t around for much of aa

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so idk

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but obv ur adding supply

trim heath
eager wadi
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I bet u didn’t the entire yap

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Only looked at the title fr

lavish thicket
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that’s so extra

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just unnecessarily complicated

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most of the av players don’t read

eager wadi
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Yea I agree let’s wrap it up

lavish thicket
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they won’t understand ts

trim heath
lavish thicket
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no shi

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that’s why we add replacements

eager wadi
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This is my idea for a worldlines revamp :

1.) Weathers are now split into 3 categories

  • Minor weathers - only gives the elemental damage debuff and buff.

  • Normal weathers - Includes the weather features and element debuff/buff.

  • Catastrophic weathers - Completely revamps the weather passives of the previous weather condition into a more challenging and new mechanic.

Maps are now categorized into 3 types of clear difficulty which are Easy, Moderate, and Hard mode. ALL STAGES ARE AUTO SET TO [NORMAL WEATHER,MODERATE MAP]

• Matching Moderate maps with catastrophic weathers will count as 2 floor clears once completed and matching Hard maps with catastrophic weathers will count as 3 floor clears once finished.

• With these mechanics you can optimize your gameplay on wordlines to be either easier or faster but with harder difficulty.

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A goat send me ts idea

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How u feel about it

tacit flint
eager wadi
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Ts doesn’t mean this shit it means this

lavish thicket
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av is alr rly short

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50 floors instead of the normal 100

eager wadi
lavish thicket
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u have hard mode baked in

main owl
eager wadi
tacit flint
eager wadi
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Side feature

dark lance
main owl
main owl
eager wadi
lavish thicket
main owl
dark lance
eager wadi
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I feel like jumping off now 🥀 ( I really don’t)

tacit flint
slender rock
lavish thicket
main owl
tacit flint
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doesint awtd have 100 floors now too?

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or is it 75

slender rock
dark lance
tacit flint
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i dont remember

main owl
lavish thicket
main owl
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75 is for the unit

dark lance
main owl
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It is

tacit flint
main owl
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Your protecting a tower

tacit flint
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i remember now

eager wadi
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Why are you guys still playing anime tower defence in the massive 25 honestly

lavish thicket
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since they have 100 but there’s methods to speed it up
we just have half by default making it faster

tacit flint
slender rock
dark lance
eager wadi
dark lance
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But anime

eager wadi
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Js play 9kings on steam I heard it’s good

slender rock
eager wadi
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Owned by boss shit now

dark lance
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Aa soon to join the list if he wanted to

main owl
eager wadi
eager wadi
main owl
lavish thicket
eager wadi
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Stop staying in the matrix

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Wake up

main owl
eager wadi
slender rock
eager wadi
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Yo where did I go wrong in life lowkey

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I do think I am the goat

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But like man I am not really the king I used to be

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They called me TheTest

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This is a bummer

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I don’t fw ts

slender rock
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ur weird

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😭

eager wadi
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The greats do fall off hard…

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I think that might be the first time I got called weird

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Woah new experience

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Man ts sucks

main owl
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Bro can you stfu

eager wadi
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I do want to say the rage bait is working

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But is it really rage bait atp

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Like u gotta stop for a second

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And think about it

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I am actually going to do everyone a favour including mine self

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And just stfu

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I think that’s what I lack

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Maybe I been yapping too much

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That I forgotten the most important thing in life

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Taking it easy..

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Y’all take it easy folks

tacit flint
eager wadi
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Don’t stress too much

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Don’t worry about the little things

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And never over think

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Overthinking is most of the times really bad

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It’s a trap

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I’ll take a break from all this

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And live life

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Actually live life

slender rock
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😭

eager wadi
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Maybe I should consider deleting discord ngl

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Yeah I am tired

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Sorry for the nuisance and shi

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Have a wonderful day y’all

main owl
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What the FUCK are you talking about bro

eager wadi
tacit flint
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he MIGHT be schizo

eager wadi
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Nah but seriously tho mb

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Sorry chat

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I hope y’all uh have good lives nd shi too

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Like work on yourselves

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And start living if u haven’t already

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Most importantly

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Take it easy

main owl
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We have lost the plot

eager wadi
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Peace ✌️ 😼 yipeee

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And have a wonderful day/night

main owl
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Gonna flex my limbus team rq

proud narwhal
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holy yap 😭

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don’t blame @trim heath ngl, he’s atleast telling ppl what the devs are thinking, it sucks that this can’t be added even though I think it’d do a lot for the game, but ultimately it’s not my choice

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it’s not his decision at all

proud narwhal
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bump

coral wing
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i like that idea with soloar

floral tartan
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@proud narwhal #1399114540599480442 let me cook gng

proud narwhal
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Bump

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they’re not going to

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lol

floral tartan
hot spindle
hot spindle
proud narwhal
# hot spindle

no I know it’s already been confirmed by pyseph this got denied

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BUT

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I like big numbers

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SO

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it’ll stay until 2 weeks are up

hot spindle
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do you got the ss

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btw

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oh

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nvm

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i got it

proud narwhal
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Bump

proud narwhal
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Ump

proud narwhal
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Bump

proud narwhal
proud narwhal
proud narwhal
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boom

proud narwhal
proud narwhal
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bump

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ONE MORE

proud narwhal
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Thank you for the 600 stars! Even if this suggestion won't ever get added, I'm thankful for all of your support, whether you came from pyseph's announcement or not.

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toxic echo
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tacit flint
sleek cosmos
toxic echo
proud narwhal
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ts is cooked

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🥀

toxic echo
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That guy got silenced

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At least

proud narwhal
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this is about to be silenced

glass pulsar
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LOOOOL

proud narwhal
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in like

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3s

toxic echo
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I can shitpost in here

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🙏

glass pulsar
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THEY KILLED THE POST

wind dew
toxic echo
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Future vanguard unit

toxic echo
glass pulsar
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come

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to my post

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we are talking here

proud narwhal
proud narwhal
glass pulsar
limpid temple
# proud narwhal

That statement makes no sense why would they try to add ethereal reliant units such as ackers and eren when its legit worse to use them just because how expensive they are, 200k for eren and also 200k for all ackermans and deadeye straight up does more dps than ethereal with birb 🤣