#My Trait System Rework Suggestion
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i mean im not crying yk cuz im good like that but its still a shit system
yeah i agree monarch itself is shitty idea, but tbh u won't max out all units with eth for example - monrach trait should make your units a little more expenisve, or eth/solar/deadeye should make your units a little cheaper
yea its such a risky situation to change or rework OR add new traits because of MONARCH
ive got 2 since aot upd dropped 🔥 (on zeke😔 and cid🔥 )
and now i have 10
i still need monarch on kaguya on my alt tho
plus
i hate monarchs
like kaguya monarch
like she just clears EVERYTHING
so boring
i dont even bother getting the new units
uz i know even with monarch on them they aint beatin this
and they said vanguards won't dropp out of meta
i will play world line ofc even if the unit somehow turns bad
yea wordlines and bp units but the rest of the units
fuck the units tbh
i hope escanor will bring back purgatory flames🙏
i have to do world lines with this team😭
im playing on my alt on which i can't spend any games so i dont have any farm
only kaguya can save me
Eth should genuinely reduce price by 25-50%
I have 2 alts like this, flad to see im Not the only one who had this idea, but even banners are ok? Cuz i guess they arent gems
50% is too much tbh
But are still summoning
Thats why i said 25-50, can be low or inbetween
yeah im summoning on event banners because im not spending gems
25% its to high too (in my opinion) +-20% would be good i think
Fair enough, i manages ti get sabee just thru event banner but i wanna do a complete no banner summon acc
So i might grind reimu and sakuya
Just get cid dude 😭
Get cid -> cid unkown element -> kaguya unkown element -> kaguya slams
im gonna get cid or sokora
yeah i know
im gonna probably do as much wl as i can then rerol on kaguya more
Sokura waaay easier, but you have to wait unfortunately
I gotta start from scratch
And worst of all
No summon purely drop chances and bp
With me luck guys 💔
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Bump
whats the point of bump atm 😭😭
because i want to hit 600
💔
and also because more ppl can see it
theres no point not bumping
itll be here for only 2 wekes
weeks
reaction and being noticed 💔 🥀
Bomp
Wow your rank role is the same as your pfp now
It was meant to be
Dead chat!!
I'm gonna say it now, new traits are almost certainly not coming to the table. Anything that's supposed to increase buff potency or affect swap meters or affect summons or whatever else is something to be remedied by familiars. They're a bit more farmable, controllable, and adaptable than traits ever would be. Especially because they don't bloat the trait pool with things that would be otherwise useless to get on a unit. And some of them are just straight up unbalanced by concept, like Duplicative.
Familiars are supposed to be the answer to target specific types of units, because there's no point to changing the trait system now with how deep it's gone
yeah familiars are awful though
if your going to make aspects better make them good atleast
bird is the only familiar worth using on 98% of the units
black spirit was good
and ill admit that duplicative isnt balanced, its 1 of the like 6 traits i suggested, and im also not a balancer so of course its not going to be as balanced as it would be
also clearly a lot of people dont feel that way with traits being too far gone, monarch would still be the king, but these traits lessen the gap
i wouldnt want anything but monarch on my kaguya
even with these traits
i appreciate the actual response tho
even if it seems dumb imo (not you, just their inability to change a clearly broken system)
literally one of the most stupid shit ive seen
especially after birb and strange cat
if your going to add something like familiars make more than 2 actually useful
i suggested this because they seem more inclined to change stuff/listen compared to before
if it cant be added
well im still going to bump it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
just “manually” play nm br
i still like av
and its not like i dont have monarchs
but it feels terrible to play when you dont
and monarchs overshadow all your other units
yeah
and this was mainly made in response to them saying they'll powerscale more
for “manual” play
if 7.5/8.0 units are all super meta/broken then how is a f2p player supposed to get enough rrs for that
als can powerscale because 1500000 things give rrs
i honestly dont mind
they just need more ways to get rrs
either more traits (so you dont need monarch on every unit) or more rrs
even with the lower pity its like 3-4 weeks for 1 monarch
i appreciate his response tho
idk how official it is since hes only a tester tho
hopefully a dev would like it more 🥀
since it HAS gotten a lot of support
its so embarrassing the dev team took them this long to realize how shit everything is becoming to be
i mean
thats a fair thing to say
hes not in charge of the game at all
but hes like
the only person with a role greater than one you can get by levels that actually responds to shit
#1398161392867213412 was my main suggestion tho
this one was just for the powerscaling issue they're probably going to face
i will continue to use my kaguya and 1 tap most things while upgrading nothing else 👍
sorry if that sounded mad
odyssey sucks
I can say the answer is not much 
And the entire point behind familiars is to be RNG heavy because chasing for the optimization is really just an optional thing
Like birb
"if you're trying for a perfect birb, you're either bored or dumb"
no i understand that
but its bad because bird (and sometimes, rarely black spirit) are the only familiars youd actually use
if you want mini traits
like how als has enchants for example
make more than 2 useful
its a good system
just needs to be fleshed out more
or a dumb excuse to make ppl play odyssey
can you say anything about their opinion on #1398161392867213412
bc they spent a lot of time in it
nah cid raid is good too
but when you max out the pheos for that
uhhh
when you max it
its useless
yeah thats the method now
just get ymir and the other 2 for rumbling
then boom
thank you for the insight though nether
im still going to bump it because i want to hear people's opinions on it
but i hope it pushes more creative familiars in the future
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How do u feel about element traits
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Trust me ts not a plug
Familiars are worse than traits on everyone’s soul
They js made the gap formed by traits worse with familiars
No justification
Familiars should be scrapped
Or make it so that it comes with set stats
And can be craftable
Fuck familiars pmo
But element traits 😼
yeah I had an idea similar in #1398161392867213412
not
exactly actually
now that I looked
How do u feel about traits with no rates and an actual obtainment method
but I do agree elements need more impact
they’re not changing traits apparently
also that would suck for people who spent a lot
Fuck em
Data wiped nd shi are a thing already
So wipe traits
And rework them
Also js reward the players who spent a lot with uh some coupons or some shi idk
Look at aa
They took everyone’s money
And didn’t even slide some coupons
So who tf cares

They can view it as uh
? 😭
A donation
Like they spent their money not on traits
But like an investment
Towards the greater evil
The greater good
In that case heh
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that looks cool
unfortunately people don’t like reading
best way to do it is just how Pokemon does it
I don’t play pokenond
Oh like Pokémon
Yea that’s simple
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So kinda like this
Speaking of the devil
Here he is
Wait wait wait
I am schizophrenic
Wrong guy
Carry on
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ich heisse kaiser 🔥
I don’t speak English
But I for sure know
That u just said uh
Kaiser fire emoji
Because of that
you dont speak english ? 😭
Two more Kaiser edits
All of this is getting automatically translated by a high intelligence ai
praying NEL arc is animated well not like u20
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Praying NEL arc is animated
I am so fucking funny
they are probably making crazy money off the manga
Yea I even got handed out some bag from the author himself
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no YOU are 😡
Bump
too risky
but we still cope and we still bump
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#1399002223308177480 not over for element skills 🙏 trust
gng don't know how to make a poll
barely anyone wants monarch changed
but the other traits
I can garentee almost everyone wants those changed
You love to see it
Imagine asking for suggestions to save the game and just decline everything
Real
How do I get to the top 🥀
I think there is a buttton
Can't find it gg
Because a lot of the suggestions are either terrible, contradicting other suggestions, or have absolutely no foresight into how they would actually affect the game long term
Pyseph's right in saying that trait changes would cause an insane amount of outrage and backlash 
sorry yo 💔
I say a lot
Not all
🥀
There are some actual good suggestions too, unfortunately some of those fall into the third category too.
yeah guys ALL of my suggestions are peak
💯
🤨
Nah ts a poor excuse
😭
Fuck traits
its true though...
If the game is already dying
Gotta do the right things
Before it’s completely cooked
Scrapping traits and familiars or reworking them completely
it could also backfire
Is undeniably the best thing to do
where instead of helping it causes controversy and makes it die faster
Waiting for the inevitable end is stupid
And anyone who says that making a bad move is blah blah blah
Vro
Av won’t have a second chance
😮💨
lets just see in the upcoming updates
if they truly are dying and can't comeback
they should do some expiremental changes
otherwise there still in a relativly safe position
And the people who encourage shi like this, no offence are smartasses
Av will never be good
Their core is rotten
No matter how hard they try to conceal it and run away from it
They’re still the aa replacement
Theyre
Stop yapping about the future and shi
It’s already over for them
They can pump out as many upds they want
The core will always remain the same
They’re scared
Of what there is to lose
And the core is?
Aa replacement
They can run away from it will all the cool and unique features that they release with every upd
See where that got them
They didn’t salvage what they already have
I mean, yeah, that's what it was initially when the game first released
And as the team has changed, the direction of the game has too 
Scrap traits and familiars rework them honestly scrap av and push towards avx right miso?
Nope
Direction is still same
Just with slight additions
U can see it from the polls
Stop being so blind cuh
I still don't see how not wanting to change/scrap traits to avoid community outrage is "an excuse" but you do you pal
Sacrifices are a must.
i mean yeah i don't disagree with the fact that the base game of av still needs A LOT of work and that atp only AVX is gonna do that but im still hopeful for the current AV
Trait rework are a must ngl , ppl used vsjw monarch dominating the game which make no point for ppl to collect new unit . Adding new traits make more unit can shine instead of vsjw all the time
They'd be sacrificing the entire game doing that.
Oh my heavens
They’re already sacrificing the game with each upd
So why not put it all on the line
New traits would just unnecessarily bloat the pool while never really coming close to the strength of convenience monarch provides
With one huge push
Scrap traits and never bring them back
oh shit
trump card
Way too late for that
It’s easy to pull this card
Like everyone else
It's just funny
Now is the best time
No it's not gang 
You deadass just want to kill the game off
YOU want to kill the game off
Tell me NetherResonant
What’s ur ideal gameplan
If all else fails
Add a new mode?
Maybe add a new vanguard??
games not dead yet, its just dying i would be more inclined to agree if the game is actually dead 💔
Oh how about

It’s peak
Lowkey don’t know what to say uh
based asf
How about
How about u
How about u uh give pieseoh a therapy session or some sh
Tf u want me to say
scrapping traits would kill the game unfortunatly, and reworking could work but might need a rework of the entire games balance which might throw off the scaling of current units
Tell me how av isn’t already killling itself
It’s still aa at the core
not saying it aint
Even if it has 30k ccu now
but you arent gettin it, almost ALL of these games rely on traits now
It’ll most likely spike a bit and fall harder
Just a lie y’all created to cope
Literally yes
astdx has unique and other useless traits
its a dopamine farm
bro i dont care if they remove traits
Ok then I got an idea let’s follow als and give everyone a monarch
but even games like awtd has traits now
bro you arent listening are you, i never said it was GOOD
Didn’t they always have that
what is avx 😭
And loook where they are now
Anime vanguards X
No I do
I just want a reason to hate
im just saying traits are these games life support, its a dopamine rush for lots of players hence why aa survived because no one wanted to just make an aa copy
Because life sucks

Man this is so sigma

What are we even doing here
Like why are we wasting our time here
bumping
Whole minute timeout for that 😂😂
Fuck av
peak suggestion
I don’t suck anything
U want to see peak?
Devs are against it
Nah this suggestion is fucking buns @proud narwhal no offence
Half off the devs are gay 😭😭
So? 
I am a d1 hater now
But that’s gay
That wasn't the point
U just know this guy loves it sloppy
Why bring it up tho
If u payed us peasants enough care u can see that uh he’s replying to my msg
Sorry about that my great glorious sigma lord
Literally
#1398335277839290379 shameful plug time
Pyseph alr said we are a minority 💔
He’s racist 
did u even find any good suggestions? cuz rn when im reading most its about vanguard units or traits
😭😭
Goodbye everyone
You insulted the devs? Ban time
I’ll miss u all
No homo
What does no homo even mean
I always figured it meant no gay
Bett
Some of them, yes. Some of them are things we actually already have planned but I can't say which ones.
Here are the good ones #1398335277839290379
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That's homophobic smh
u can say
we promise we wont tell pyseph
I'll do anything 👉👈
the worldlines one I can already tell you is a no-go just from the rerun stuff/tokens alone
Pyseph is gonna kidnap and hold my family hostage for this
Buddy read the other suggestions stop being smartass
Because the community already cried out about BP unit reruns, they aren't gonna do WL ones too
I included plenty of other good suggestions
but honestly yall should do something cause most of the good support units are limited from either bp or worldlines like katakuri, esdeath, al, dark mage, etc.
Idek why the community wants bp/worldline unit returns, all off them are ass 😭💔
Lucy and aladdin:
Why look at the only ones u dislike and disregard everything else
Acting like a real king now
Huh mr lord ass
Hopefully global challenges and the challenge cap being visible

This one's just so needlessly convoluted, that inf tsukuyomi one just sounds straight up worse than what we already got🥀
they gave us a pity counter, hold hope
shamless plug, this suggestion got the sauce and the poster of it is majestic and 7 foot tall
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Yea I lowkey fucked up big with that and forgot to do something about to fix it
Because let’s be fr pieseph doesn’t give af
What do u think about the element traits
Lucy is replaceable by merlin/medea, slightly underwhelming versions tho, and I ain use aladdin a day of my life
It’s always the shameless plug but what about the shameful plug #1399002223308177480
She's really not
Aladdin is also the hardest counter to energy drain/blinded in the game
What does he do
1 time nullfy and a circle aoe nullfy every 60 seconds 😭
Outside of just being immune
The only bp unit I use is Luce
any time an ally is hit with a debuff/status effect, he gains 5% meter. at 100% he cleanses everything in range and give them a damage/range buff if he cleanses them
Oh that’s op
so against energy drain/blinded which apply debuffs in increments of 5%
Because people complained about energy drain 
So can u please hit me with it
Should’ve been a quest unit like gilga
And that's why some of us wanted to do occasional bp unit obtainment methods
But idk
“traders”
I don’t even have the honor of the crow ooo oh aaa aa
nuke trading smh
we are getting no trading and no traits in avx
The uu oow aa aa
Miso my guy collab with me
There's
Let’s make avx a thing
Probbably gonna get sued by av
already planning on working on a atd project with another guy in this server
Avx is a thing?
Without me? I see how it is
do you have scripting experince though
No I got yap experience
The only scripts I make
Are the scripts for the local recitals

I don't think the bp unit reruns would've impacted trading that much though 
I hate trading so much
Fr
they fs would
U haven’t shared the any thoughts on element traits #1399002223308177480
Not really tbh
they woudl destroy their value
I just don't think they're good.
They aren't a good or interesting fit
Nice rage bait
I bet u didn’t the entire yap
Only looked at the title fr
that’s so extra
just unnecessarily complicated
most of the av players don’t read
Yea I agree let’s wrap it up
they won’t understand ts
Also yes, good. Meta units shouldn't be locked behind a past and unobtainable bp that traders will just hoard copies of so newer players are shit out of luck
This is my idea for a worldlines revamp :
1.) Weathers are now split into 3 categories
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Minor weathers - only gives the elemental damage debuff and buff.
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Normal weathers - Includes the weather features and element debuff/buff.
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Catastrophic weathers - Completely revamps the weather passives of the previous weather condition into a more challenging and new mechanic.
Maps are now categorized into 3 types of clear difficulty which are Easy, Moderate, and Hard mode. ALL STAGES ARE AUTO SET TO [NORMAL WEATHER,MODERATE MAP]
• Matching Moderate maps with catastrophic weathers will count as 2 floor clears once completed and matching Hard maps with catastrophic weathers will count as 3 floor clears once finished.
• With these mechanics you can optimize your gameplay on wordlines to be either easier or faster but with harder difficulty.
A goat send me ts idea
How u feel about it
i got a better idea for a worldlines rework smh
Ts doesn’t mean this shit it means this
why bro
av is alr rly short
50 floors instead of the normal 100
Yo spill it
u have hard mode baked in
Worldliness weathers don’t need a rework

Not rework
ill post it tonight or tmo
Side feature
Normal? By what game
They don’t need anything added to them
Every other td game is 100 floors
Post it rn I am quitting suggestions
all other tds had 100
Great
Okay just name a couple or just one
to bad
astd aa arx als
als
Als aa arx
never played it so idk
ALS have 3x speed, aa has hard mode which reduce floors by half
i dont remember
Yea but the 100 is optional
exactly my point
75 is for the unit
Arx is not a tower defense
oh right its for the token
Your protecting a tower
i remember now
Why are you guys still playing anime tower defence in the massive 25 honestly
since they have 100 but there’s methods to speed it up
we just have half by default making it faster
it sure is one
okay and? u said to list some that are 100
Okay cool, but they’re not really 100 if you can just do half of them(AA) or blitz through them with 3x speed is my point. 50 is the standard from what I see imo
What’s arx
Js play 9kings on steam I heard it’s good
also bro the "this game has 3x speed" argument is irrelevant since stages in av take the same amount of time as the other games with 3x cause they are balanced around 3x, while av is balanced around normal speed
Aa soon to join the list if he wanted to
No saving aa
Y’all gotta be bots
What?
this just isn’t true stages in av take as much time as astd x 3x but only 2x when compared to als
it varies from game to game
Bro what are you on about
(He doesn’t know)
okay but 3x in als is a gamepass so u should compare it to the 2x speed which is free
Yo where did I go wrong in life lowkey
I do think I am the goat
But like man I am not really the king I used to be
They called me TheTest
This is a bummer
I don’t fw ts
wtf are you talking about bro
ur weird
😭
The greats do fall off hard…
I think that might be the first time I got called weird
Woah new experience
Man ts sucks
Bro can you stfu
I do want to say the rage bait is working
But is it really rage bait atp
Like u gotta stop for a second
And think about it
I am actually going to do everyone a favour including mine self
And just stfu
I think that’s what I lack
Maybe I been yapping too much
That I forgotten the most important thing in life
Taking it easy..
Y’all take it easy folks

Don’t stress too much
Don’t worry about the little things
And never over think
Overthinking is most of the times really bad
It’s a trap
I’ll take a break from all this
And live life
Actually live life
😭
Maybe I should consider deleting discord ngl
Yeah I am tired
Sorry for the nuisance and shi
Have a wonderful day y’all
What the FUCK are you talking about bro
he MIGHT be schizo
Almost sent the wrong version 😔
Nah but seriously tho mb
Sorry chat
I hope y’all uh have good lives nd shi too
Like work on yourselves
And start living if u haven’t already
Most importantly
Take it easy
We have lost the plot
holy yap 😭
don’t blame @trim heath ngl, he’s atleast telling ppl what the devs are thinking, it sucks that this can’t be added even though I think it’d do a lot for the game, but ultimately it’s not my choice
it’s not his decision at all
bump
i like that idea with soloar
@proud narwhal #1399114540599480442 let me cook gng
I know 😔
oh you was there
no I know it’s already been confirmed by pyseph this got denied
BUT
I like big numbers
SO
it’ll stay until 2 weeks are up
Ump
Bump
boom
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wow this suggestion is so good i bet the poster is a majestic human being
The self glaze shall be tolerated because the post is interesting
100000 percent agree (i am at gun point rn 🐢)
this is about to be silenced
LOOOOL
THEY KILLED THE POST
Will pyseph execute his family?
Future vanguard unit
Ayo
That statement makes no sense why would they try to add ethereal reliant units such as ackers and eren when its legit worse to use them just because how expensive they are, 200k for eren and also 200k for all ackermans and deadeye straight up does more dps than ethereal with birb 🤣





