Trading

[noble shadow]

Add trading cuz ts is the best way to progress as a F2P manual grinder and it'll bring back some ppl cuz....who doesn't like trading 💔?

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[solemn blaze]

Trading is cool

[noble shadow]

I swear it was the only reason I played AA back then...

Getting Dio was a dream

[solemn blaze]

I used to do hella trades in Old ASTD

I never got very far.

I was stupid

[noble shadow]

Same I hopped from AA to Astd then ad then als

But trading in als is kinda random

[noble shadow]

I almost reached ryuk....

[solemn blaze]

Noooo fucking way

ARE WE FR

[noble shadow]

Cuh but I quitted what av dropped and then arx then AA came back and Astd was left on till Astd X released...

[solemn blaze]

I do wish to see what's my rarest unit in AV

It's probably like

Haruka Rin

Or Esdeath maybe

[noble shadow]

Yeh even from those you can trade up to good sht

But I swear av has to drop trading like even arx has trading now💔💔

[solemn blaze]

Soon.

None of the limited units besides Vanguards are all that good though, they'll probably be like top of the value tierlist

[noble shadow]

Doesn't have to be good to be valuable and don't forget gamepasses will be tradeble so better chances for F2P manual players to progress

[solemn blaze]

...they will?

[noble shadow]

Who?

[solemn blaze]

Gamepasses

Gamepasses will be tradeable?

[noble shadow]

Trading without gamepasses is nothing

[solemn blaze]

That does make sense

Once trading comes out I WILL be a [[BIG SHOT]] 🗣️

[noble shadow]

Yeh but update is soon and they didn't say anything about trading so ehhh

[final tendon]

We got fucking pvp before trading btw

[noble shadow]

Like frr

[elfin lion]

just wait 2 years for trading

we need to focus on pvp even more

fr

[formal frigate]

ts not coming soon

[solemn blaze]

Trading is probably coming in upd 10-

[formal frigate]

trading next year

[solemn blaze]

They alr have up to 9.5 planned it's coming before next year I assume.

[elfin lion]

Trading 10k bundle for unnevo choy

[errant sigil]

not enough exclusive units is ingame

for trading to be here

[noble shadow]

Idk who is grinding ts.

[elfin lion]

the fact that people believe that is crazy

[noble shadow]

There shouldn't be a crazy amount of units just to add trading ig and their update rate is So slow so trading will maybe help player wait from an update to another

[solemn blaze]

I could bet on update 8 or 9 honestly.

[errant sigil]

roadmap exist for a reason

former devs also confirm this

we got gogeta who was also planned for road map?

[elfin lion]

im still waiting for the fucking coins fix

[errant sigil]

There should be

dumbas

why tf do u want trading when we only have two units worthy of trading for?

[formal frigate]

50/50 chance its the truth

[noble shadow]

No?

[errant sigil]

does that make sense to u

maybe U want that but it's not good for the economy

[noble shadow]

There should be but not must

[solemn blaze]

And they DID say trading was planned so it's probably coming in a .0 so it's probably 8 or 9

[noble shadow]

There are already more than 25-30 tradeble unit how much more do you want??

[elfin lion]

300

[errant sigil]

and how many of those are worth trading for?

[elfin lion]

💯

[formal frigate]

50

[errant sigil]

please shut up if u dont know shit

[solemn blaze]

Vanguards

[formal frigate]

5

or 6

[errant sigil]

5 not even enough tbh

6?

[formal frigate]

7

[errant sigil]

i feel like it's like 4 dude

[noble shadow]

Shiny lbs and vanguards

[errant sigil]

idk who is trading for gogeta he's trash now

shiny lbs?

who is trading for lb runs that has 0 demand

[solemn blaze]

And esdeath maybe

[errant sigil]

shitty cosmetic

who tf want octoups burh

rock lee?

[noble shadow]

Still rare

[errant sigil]

not rare lol

[formal frigate]

shiny diego, shiny ragna, vanguards(3), shiny uh

[errant sigil]

okay uh

[errant sigil]

shiny diego isnt rare

[noble shadow]

Why you have to want?? Some ppl like collections not only your opinion matters

[formal frigate]

he is

[errant sigil]

if we're talking about top 3 rarest units
it would go shiny diavolo > shiny seiko > shiny isdeath

[formal frigate]

i also only mentioned cool units

[errant sigil]

how?

[noble shadow]

If you like afk 24/7 in this game and don't have what to do don't force others to quit cuz of lack of content

[formal frigate]

long ago

[errant sigil]

you were able to 🥭 his raid

so how tf is he rare

LOL

[elfin lion]

shiny seven: 🪦

[errant sigil]

seven has too many owners

[formal frigate]

half a year ago is rare for ts game

[errant sigil]

he got duped

remember

i can show proof

if u want

[noble shadow]

All I know was Broly fr first lb unit

[formal frigate]

im ngl lb units shouldnt be worth much

[errant sigil]

they should be

[formal frigate]

their cosmetic isnt cool

[errant sigil]

none of them arent worth much anyways

[noble shadow]

Maybe shiny Worldline units will be too

[errant sigil]

broly got duped

so his value is fucked

[formal frigate]

value should be based on looks and rarity. lb units only fit rarity

[minor wagon]

we need more rare units to acc grind for

[formal frigate]

ts why shiny king crimson the goat

[minor wagon]

for now its diavolo

[noble shadow]

Yeh

[noble shadow]

Who is that..

[formal frigate]

shint diavolo

[elfin lion]

so goated people unshiny their diavolos

[errant sigil]

i agree

which is why we dont need trading rn

not enough tradeable units to be any useful rn

[noble shadow]

The game will stay dead if not that's why they should add trading...

13K players is insane no?

[errant sigil]

yeah gl trading for 3 worthy units

[noble shadow]

With that low update rate

[elfin lion]

the game will die even with trading

[errant sigil]

game is dying but trading isnt saving it tho

[noble shadow]

One update a month or 2 months

[elfin lion]

trading only bring a small community

[noble shadow]

Not really as long as there's what to do

[formal frigate]

i hope they remake every cosmetic in the game n make them better

[errant sigil]

av is dying because they refuses to add content

[errant sigil]

No

that's too much work

and that will just

[formal frigate]

bro 💔

[errant sigil]

delay the update

[elfin lion]

every shiny needs a remodel

[formal frigate]

js hire a modeler

[final tendon]

Itll bring more players than pvp did 😭 🙏

[formal frigate]

a new 1

[errant sigil]

lmao

they have 24 models to code per .0

and now u want them to rework cosmetics

[formal frigate]

yes

[errant sigil]

[final tendon]

They take 4 weeks to do this shit

[formal frigate]

i wanna look cool in av

so they gotta rework sum of em at least

[final tendon]

Just for 90% of the cosmetics to be god awful

[elfin lion]

99%*

[noble shadow]

Unit cosmetics doesn't have to be good as long as you can do cosmetic combo so if you have a single good thing of each you get good look fr fr

[elfin lion]

is funny how they did a poll related to shiny units when they take almost to none effort making them

[noble shadow]

Shinys are just recolor

Barely diff model

[errant sigil]

The community wants all of the quality of av with half the update time
then when we get an option to slightly reduce the quality and make shinies more special for fan favorites people say no

[elfin lion]

yea but atleast should have a notable difference between shiny and nonshiny

[noble shadow]

Yeh but eh...

[elfin lion]

vsjw is the perfect example of the issue
shiny and nonshiny cosmetics are the same

but the unit model is better nonshiny

[formal frigate]

i think the only good cosmetics r shiny diavolo, shiny/unshiny diego, shiny ragna. id rather them put mire effort into cosmetics than making shinys

[noble shadow]

Most of the time is going on unit skills and movements just so ppl play with "hide effects" or 'hide cutscene'

[noble shadow]

Isn't the difference between shiny and normal diavolo the color ?

Or is the cosmetic also diff

[formal frigate]

i think color

i didnt feel like including unshiny version tho

both look fine tho

[noble shadow]

Yh

[elfin lion]

some are
like shiny buu but others change the units clothes and look
shiny ginyu

is like gambling if the devs decide to do a good shiny or no

[final tendon]

My take is pretty simple, you can't cry "high quality" whenever someone mentions the dogshit update schedule, and simultaneously have mostly mediocre or bad shinies and cosmetics

[small igloo]

abd guilds

and

[final tendon]

Make them function well

I cant wait for trading to have 500 dupe bugs when it gets released

[fading cloak]

why it would bring people back

since many old people dont even grinded for limited units

and the only units that could get any value rn is like

diavolo

gogeta

and shiny secrets

[noble shadow]

Cuz it will be the easiest way to get rrs gamepasses and good units for manual grinders and F2Ps

[fading cloak]

gamepasses tradeable will ruin it

dont even add if will have gp`s

🙏

[noble shadow]

The game is hated cuz of P2W and boring grinding and lack of contents

[fading cloak]

its P2W if you dont play or afk it tbh

my f2p friend got like 7 monarchs

i got 17

as barely p2w, only buying battlepasses

[noble shadow]

He 🥭 ?

[fading cloak]

obivously

WHO DONT

[noble shadow]

Mobile players

[fading cloak]

if you are asking for rrs maybe you should

[fading cloak]

eh

cant do much for you guys

[noble shadow]

I like als cuz grinding rrs is easier can get 500-1K a week

Manual

[fading cloak]

ye

[noble shadow]

So if no trading mobile players will still rather play als..

[fading cloak]

Manually play any atd for me is basically impossible today

[fair dust]

fucking hell

do you even follow this game

[fading cloak]

i grinded like a whole year in AA 8 hours a day

[noble shadow]

And arx is getting much love cuz it's easier to afk

[fair dust]

trading was confirmed 90348732894728327 times

it IS coming

[noble shadow]

Want it soon dawg not in a year💔💔

[fair dust]

constantly re-appearing topic

[fair dust]

your suggestion will not change anything

[fading cloak]

pls DO NOT bring gamepasses though, if people are bothered with p2w why they want gamepasses at trading

[fair dust]

its just cluttering the channel

[noble shadow]

P2W will pay robux to get good units

[fading cloak]

exactly

so a p2w wont need grind

for nothing

[noble shadow]

And F2P will touch a good amount of rrs for his first time

[fading cloak]

"uh i want a shny dio" take this 10k robux gp

and gimme yours

[solemn blaze]

I feel like we shouldn't be harsh on the devs for this one update because the modelling for the titans sounds like it is unbelievably time consuming :D

[noble shadow]

I'm not expecting anything from AOT update ngl

It's always bad

In every game

[fading cloak]

The guy who make the scripts isnt the same that is doing the modelling

my friend is a modeler on a roblox game

[noble shadow]

They need more devs ngl

They can be counted with hands

[fading cloak]

he do like 3-5 models a day, much more complex than some titans

[solemn blaze]

Show us why don't you

[fading cloak]

im sure titans give some work but isnt that big deal

[fading cloak]

bc i dont know how to model?

what type of point is this

[solemn blaze]

I don't mean your models

Show us your friend's models

[fading cloak]

leme get them

actually he isnt a modeller its a texturer, but basically he takes a model from 0 and turn it into a 100

@solemn blaze

im pretty sure the process to model a roblox character inst that complex compared to what he have done

he proved to me that most devs are just lazy

[small igloo]

true ngl ion feel like theres enough things to even trade

[fading cloak]

i used to watch his screen shares

[small igloo]

in AA trading was so fun

trading is its own part of the game

in AA there was a time where i didnt even play the game

i js used to trade

cuz rr was so hard to get

[fading cloak]

thats for sure

[fading cloak]

thats a thing i see many people arg abt

this isnt healthy for the game

[final tendon]

Ehhhh

I wouldve called it good

[small igloo]

i mean idk for others

but it was for me

[final tendon]

If it werent for like 2 units

[small igloo]

cuz i was too good at it

[fading cloak]

dio oh

and

homuru?

or gohan

[small igloo]

homura

[final tendon]

Mostly just homura, dio oh was just

A trophy

[small igloo]

homura changed trading and the game completly

[final tendon]

Homura was just absurd though lol

Who thought the local cd timestop you can chain is game defining

[small igloo]

she was the unit that u needed in every team

no matter what element or mode or wtv

i used to get crazy overpayments for her

100 rr per

[fading cloak]

i got 1 with much work

never traded it

maybe i should

well

the game died so it doesnt matter

[small igloo]

in the end i never even had one

cuz all i wanted was unique

traded up to like 800 rr worth

never got 1

[fading cloak]

ong

unique was incredible unique

back then

that sh was so rare

i only got 1 in golden freeza

[small igloo]

yeah thats one of the things i liked ngl

[fading cloak]

[small igloo]

it being so rare

feel like in AV its way too easy

[fading cloak]

fr

17 monarchs

kinda crazy to this day

more comming

1200 rr for aot update and counting

🙏

[small igloo]

you have 17/

?

[fading cloak]

ye

18 if you count rare rukia

[small igloo]

wtf

u use some faxi or sum?

[fading cloak]

🍣

not a big deal tho, my friends say im just lucky

[small igloo]

😭😭😭

Hacks

[final tendon]

I gotta disagree with this one gang i hated unique so bad

Especially when it was so much more convenient in aa than it is in av

[small igloo]

I liked it cuz it was a challenge to get

The system of trying to get one

Never had one though

In av nothing feels challenging

Idk

[fading cloak]

unique on AA was like

i mean

even for infinite it was better than divine

i remember people in lb even using unique in 4 placements units

[final tendon]

It was impossible to get

A challenge would be one thing

It was nigh impossible lest you dropped money

[fading cloak]

challenge back then does not give us 50 shards

only 10 at best

[final tendon]

I never really got into that shit but yeah aa simply had more units youd want unique on even in inf wave modes

[final tendon]

The 10-50 shards daily challenge was still so stupid ngl

They really though they cooked with that shit

[fading cloak]

Unique MK and Escanor were my dream tho

[final tendon]

3 rrs a day

[fading cloak]

never got it sadly

[final tendon]

I had like 4 uniques iirc

Ussop, guts, and vegito

[noble shadow]

It's just YouTubers and P2W and you had to replace your units when enemies pass by

[final tendon]

Smth like that

[fading cloak]

4??????

bro was rich asf

since lb needed like 3-4 uniques and supports

[final tendon]

Not even man people spent like 50k+ usd on that shit

[small igloo]

True ig

Maybe I’m blinded by nostalgia

[final tendon]

I got 0 good things left to say about aa after the last 2 updates cant lie

[little roost]

Trading is already confirmed to be added…eventually

[final tendon]

Yeah in 2030 at this rate

[minor wagon]

eventually is when the game is dead

[light meadow]

but when

[wind aurora]

"Who doesn't like trading"
A lot of people. Myself included, I despise trading

[final tendon]

It became an essential feature the day exclusive units were made a thing

Its needed

And im willing to bet itd bring in more players than pvp did

[wind aurora]

Oh probably

I still hate trading in any of these games though

[little roost]

Make trait rr tradeable fr

: )

[elfin lion]

only the ones you buy from robux

[boreal plume]

nah trading in warframe is peak

[boreal plume]

me i dont like trading

[solemn blaze]

Probably in 8.0 or 9.0

[noble shadow]

Either P2W or Afk player💔

[elfin lion]

Trading 10k bundle for unevo choy

[small igloo]

Why?

Bro got scammed once 100%

😭🥀

[boreal plume]

neither

havent spent a sent on AV

and im not wasting my pcs life span away to afk mid

[wind aurora]

No, I just don't interact with trading at all anyways. It's just such a boring and unfun system

[latent trench]

av is already easy enough u dont need trading at all to get good

remember trading is what killed anime defenders

[boreal plume]

unfortunately trading is basically required with the existence of exclusive units

[latent trench]

not really unless the exclusive units are like needed for stuff because they are 2 good

like the only exclusive units that are still kinda needed are subaru and gogeta so i think av should atleast wait for more exclusive units to add trading

[solemn blaze]

If you exclude Vanguards the limiteds aren't that good to the point of needing to trade

[zealous topaz]

trading will ruin this game

[elfin lion]

you mean the way they balanced trading is what killed the game

[latent trench]

trading caused botting and because shit got botted so much devs increased the difficulty to get stuff/units because of botters so yeah trading killed ad

[wind aurora]

Partially

[elfin lion]

which was caused because everything of that game had a chance to get (especially stars)

[zealous topaz]

lets get alt vanguards

[elfin lion]

and the fact that you can trade farmeable rerolls

[wind aurora]

It was also just a piss-poor implementation of a trading system that made trading awful

When you make a farmable currency the basis of all trading

It just leads to a slippery slope of economy inflation because people WILL just print more money.

[elfin lion]

ad is the only game that died because of trading because they focused on it too much for no reason

you want a unit? trade for it

you want a lot of rerolls? trade for it

you want stars to evo units? trade for it

also most exclusive units weren't meta unlike ad

fucking igris was the best unit and he was limited

[wind aurora]

Not even igris, gojo especially

[elfin lion]

oh yea
full aoe slow

[small igloo]

Capp

[elfin lion]

meanwhile banner units had at best freeze

and we don't talk about ancient units

the misinformation about why ad died is crazy

[wind aurora]

Can't get scammed if I never bother with trading in the first place

I just think it's such an awful system to deal with

[flint cargo]

I hate trade

Is for noobs 🤓 ☝️

[oak sentinel]

bump

[small igloo]

That’s what a p2w player would say

[wind aurora]

Nah

I hated it even as a F2P

[zealous topaz]

y'all aint getting diavolo, gogeta

[small igloo]

…

How r u supposed to get game passes and bp then

[solemn blaze]

Gogeta has been here for so long I doubt his value is all that

Diavolo will prob have the bigger value of all Vanguards so far

[zealous topaz]

Look at other limited characters. Which one will be equal to him?

[light meadow]

Shiny seban

[latent trench]

u dont🤷‍♂️

[zealous topaz]

I dont think even diavolo will be enough for it

[wind aurora]

Either spend the little bit they are or just don't at all

[torpid grotto]

U will need all 3 vanguards to buy ts

But funny enough is that they would be more willing to trade them than wordline units

Which only have one existing copy per inventory

Excluding the 36 people that got in lbs

[zealous topaz]

prob most people will just trade bp units (shiny owners)

[little roost]

Will we able to use selection banner on upd 7 units?

[broken wolf]

its already confirmed

[spiral bay]

They will add it