A Super Simple Fate Suggestion -Revamped-

[frail latch]

idk just make them bleed oriented, mabye one applies cleave and one applies a new effect

[cedar trench]

hmm

[frail latch]

i have no idea what the guys do sooooooo

[cedar trench]

no like only 1 of these familiars at a time

[cedar trench]

i dont need you to i just need a spitball for subunit support

only 1 of these familiars can be active at a time

[frail latch]

so just have one increase bleed stuff really well and have the other increase a more broad catergory of stuff but less effective

[cedar trench]

alr alr

ill make tubalcain increase bleed duration

[cedar trench]

Tubalcain - Every 10 Blood stacks, Tubalcain attacks add another second of Bleed to already Bleeding units.

what do you think?

[frail latch]

that works ig

[fierce monolith]

aint i right nanana

[toxic matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/lonely-anime-sad-naruto-gif-20390332

[wary stirrup]

@frail latch i need ur feedback

does this look dumb 😭

[frail latch]

Please no reading

[dawn rune]

that looks fun

[frail latch]

Is that the cover?

[wary stirrup]

yes

😭

[cedar trench]

good suggestion

[frail latch]

Looks fun and but lacks a major focal point

And it will be hard to read the contents of the shoko manga for some people

[dawn rune]

yeah jjk fans cant read

[frail latch]

Has to zoom in to read it

[cedar trench]

skill issue

[frail latch]

So you could see why it wouldn’t work ad a cover

[wary stirrup]

itll catch peoples attention

i guess

cuzz

likee

it looks funny

[frail latch]

I mean sure yeah

[cedar trench]

@frail latch how big do you make your templates?

[wary stirrup]

honestly icba to do more

so

[cedar trench]

I'm gonna try and make a template again

and it'd be like a dissection type

[frail latch]

The size doesn’t matter

Only the cover image size matters

[wary stirrup]

ayo sus

😳

sorryu

[frail latch]

Pause

[cedar trench]

can i fit all of these in a 100x100?

Double Evo Secret
Alucard (Schrodinger) {UNKNOWN}
Placement: 3

PASSIVES
Familiars of the Past - Gain the FAMILIARS OF THE PAST Ability; Tubalcain & Rip Van Winkle can be placed on certain upgrades.
At the end of a Familiar's attack, Follow-up with "Amorphous Onslaught" using that Familiar's range.

River of Blood - Attacks inflict Bleed by 20% of DMG.
Enemies that enter this unit's range while Bleeding will be afflicted with Wounded.
Gain Blood stack for every Bleeding enemy in range; Gain Blood stack every takedown; Each stack adds +1% DMG to Bleed; Each 10 stacks adds a second of Bleed.
Automatically activates "River of Blood" after hitting 130 stacks.

Everywhere and Nowhere - Enemies that got Bleed from this unit and leave this unit's range for more than 10 seconds get 50% of the Bleed every time this unit attacks.
Your placements share the same Buffs and Blood stack.
(Does not stack)

ABILITIES
Familiars of the Past:
Select familiars to use. Only 1 type of familiar can be active at a time.

Tubalcain
Card Shark - Every 5 Blood stacks, Tubalcain adds another second of Bleed to already Bleeding units.
Depletes 5 stacks every attack.
Lasts for 5 attacks.

Rip Van Winkle
Magic Bullet - Every 5 Blood stacks, Rip Van Winkle adds another second of Wounded to already Wounded units. Does 50% more of the Bleed on Wounded enemies.
Depletes 10 stacks every attack.
Lasts for 5 attacks.

River of Blood - Requires 100 stacks; Release all the souls taken as blood stacks unto the tracks, growing and shrinking by how much stacks this unit has.
Depletes a stack every second until it reaches 0.
The river on the tracks inflict Double of the Bleed and Wounded on any enemy that steps on it.
(Global)

[wary stirrup]

no cuz u suck

[frail latch]

Well yes you can

Its really just personal preference on the size

Split the passive boxes into multiple images if you don’t have enough space etc

Most of my templates have different sizes anyway

It also depends on the format you want to use

I specifically used a range from 500-1200 pixels with 400 dpi because i was trying to fit it on goofle docs

[cedar trench]

what do you guys think?

[frail latch]

But it looks worse on discord

[dawn rune]

[frail latch]

Fits does it not

🤤

Just use that cranium of yours to determine a size that works for your own format

[cedar trench]

byte-sized

[frail latch]

As simple as that

[cedar trench]

I wanna make a template like this but landscape and it's all about passives

[frail latch]

Just crop and resize the canvas till it fits what you want

[soft lotus]

Evil kitchen utensil

[toxic matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaaaaa-gif-18979345

-# T-TEXT WALL?!

[cedar trench]

what did you use to make that text

[wary stirrup]

you think yoota copying a unit's attack

for 30

is too op

i mean yuta

😭

i have yoota as the knockoff name

[cedar trench]

dmg as well?

how much does it copy?

spa too?

the range?

[wary stirrup]

like everything

[cedar trench]

passive as well?

[wary stirrup]

no

just the attack

[cedar trench]

attack and dmg and spa and range?

[wary stirrup]

the stats of the unit and the attack anim

[cedar trench]

alr

so reverse zack

[wary stirrup]

zack has an ability like that

alr?

[cedar trench]

he makes other units have his stats

not his attack but other than that he's the same

[frail latch]

Should be fine

[wary stirrup]

cuz i wanted to do like

[cedar trench]

does monarch boost get copied or uses his own trait?

[wary stirrup]

hmm

how would that work

cuz like

[cedar trench]

how zack works

zack gives his monarch dmg to other units

[wary stirrup]

yes but

if u take base unit's dmg

then

like

how would that work with his trait

[frail latch]

So Yuta is like my Nero concept

?

Copies units dmg right

[wary stirrup]

idk i stopped reading after a bit i got bored

[cedar trench]

like instead of copying 200k monarch dmg it'd be 50k traitless dmg + his trait

[frail latch]

If so yeah i took the same approach of her taking the base damage

[cedar trench]

if yuta can take monarch dmg it might be op

[cedar trench]

but i cant tell how op

[wary stirrup]

what if its like

[frail latch]

Base damage should be fine

Like im pretty sure Diavolo still has one of the highest base damages

[cedar trench]

yeah base dmg easier to balance

but with copied trait stats as well you'd have to actually test it

like field test it with other units and gamemodes

[wary stirrup]

cursed weapon storage

andd

like

[cedar trench]

how much?

[frail latch]

Roughly 42k attack?

I mean one of the new units has to have a higher base attack by now

That was pre 8.0

[wary stirrup]

you know what

maybe yuta isnt the best unit

to do

[frail latch]

Why

[wary stirrup]

idk

i dont like him

[cedar trench]

nvm i checked

[frail latch]

Clearly has alot of potential

[cedar trench]

broly has better dmg

[frail latch]

By how much

[cedar trench]

nvm'

by dps standards its diavolo

[cedar trench]

but broly has better dmg without spa

[frail latch]

Yeah but by how much

[wary stirrup]

is uraume or kijaku

kinjaku

which one has more

like

to talk abt

[frail latch]

Yuta

[cedar trench]

59k diavolo 62k broly

falcon got 60k dmg and 7 spa

[wary stirrup]

im doing 1 for gojo side and 1 for curse side

[cedar trench]

this is based on godly dmg and lvl 60

[cedar trench]

no do yuta

i like yuta

he got a curse gf

as his technique

[frail latch]

Mahito do some sorta rework or sum

Mabye a separate unit from the tourneys

[cedar trench]

mahito buff when 😔

[wary stirrup]

ahhh smartttt

[frail latch]

Mahito is a treasure box of potential

[wary stirrup]

idk why mahito was used as a tournament unit

[cedar trench]

make tourney mahito FEMahito

skin

[frail latch]

https://tenor.com/view/carnival-phantasm-anime-nod-yes-agree-gif-10883460

Yeah just make hisfem a skin

And release an actual unit

[cedar trench]

yesss

[cosmic escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flightreacts-flight-reacts-shocked-dumb-gif-6313022364613646356

[cedar trench]

now I will have the highest skin value

[wary stirrup]

bro whoa re all of sukuna's allies he cant rmb any of them besides the obv ones

[turbid hill]

would it be to op to make yuta copy someones stats for 20 seconds?

[frail latch]

Yes

[turbid hill]

i see

[frail latch]

Would 100% spawn in alot of cheese strats

[cedar trench]

depends on the passives

ohh

imagine a unit

with op base stats

but passives that power down the base stat

wait that's just mahito but without op base stats

that's just tourney units damn

[turbid hill]

What about stat buffs and attack effects?

[frail latch]

Effects probably balanced

Stat buffs no

[turbid hill]

Dang Yuta is hard to balance

[frail latch]

Just have him copy base attack

Alongside effects of attack

[cedar trench]

skill issue

[turbid hill]

Hmm alright that could work

Thanks

[cedar trench]

effects of attacks are all passive based

unless you're talking about elements

[turbid hill]

Oh

[cedar trench]

oh yeah how about buffs?

[turbid hill]

What about just passives

That would fit his character better too

[frail latch]

Just have it copy the effect if its applied on hit, if it requires another condition then it won’t

[cedar trench]

you're making a unit equivalent to this

[turbid hill]

I don’t know what that means…

[cosmic escarp]

its a plant from Plants vs Zombies that can mimic plants

[turbid hill]

Oh

[wary stirrup]

does sukuna's furnace have potential to be full aoe

[turbid hill]

Just make it a 70 range circle

[cedar trench]

idk what that means

[wary stirrup]

wdym

[wary stirrup]

these are the attacks i made for sukuna

[turbid hill]

why does everyone use the spider web i dont think that attack even hits people in the manga

[wary stirrup]

cuz all his other mvoes r basically alr covered

and the shadows are already a passive on my sukuna

[turbid hill]

oh ok

[wary stirrup]

also cuz its full aoe and full aoe units r cool

[turbid hill]

true

[cedar trench]

HOLY SHIT IT'S STUN

SNARE IS STUN

[dawn rune]

yeah?

i dont get all of this

[cedar trench]

THAT'S HOW HE DIED

my guts killed him

[dawn rune]

because he got his head sliced?

[cosmic heart]

@frail latch

holy shit dude

LOOOOL

[frail latch]

Wsp

[cosmic heart]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-blackbeard-writing-taking-notes-writing-gif-17583038544116987898

idk i js saw what went down like rn

jumped the guy holy

[frail latch]

Oh 😭

[cosmic heart]

well judging by looks of it i dont think the guy even consumed any part of any fate media other than the assumption of an eroge turned fighting gacha game

judge a book by its cover ass type shi

[frail latch]

Was very obvious ragebait

[cosmic heart]

true

talkin about some greek philosophy like its widely accepted

[frail latch]

Its fine, was able ti have a normal enough conversation without any big insults being hurled around

[frail latch]

Ikr

[cosmic heart]

heh...

eitherway its all bullshit

like what you like

neither so if youre a league player

anyways lmk if gilly's familiar is any good

will be grinding for it fosho

[dawn rune]

what

its out now?

[cosmic heart]

yeah

check logs

[shadow flume]

Waiting so a mf wish for gilg fam

[violet raft]

Lowkey finna make a alt

Bro

[shadow flume]

Thats gonna take a while

[frail latch]

Camping gen 2 and the ither server

[violet raft]

What is wrong in this message

[frail latch]

Till someones posts this

[shadow flume]

Same

Old

Server

[violet raft]

Nah the bug should be active

[shadow flume]

Uh

I feel like the fam is gonna be some lazy ass shit

The poll was like a week ago

[frail latch]

100%

[shadow flume]

Maybe they have vfam ideas for while

[frail latch]

hes gonna follow up with his nuke everytime a enemy enters his range bro

[shadow flume]

Gains 45% crit

[dawn rune]

watch they're gonna make some really awesome shit that a fam can do and its only for a character not even 100 people have

[frail latch]

Guys…

[violet raft]

[dawn rune]

hes gonna be healing enemies

[frail latch]

Some josuke type shit

[dawn rune]

healing enemies and then beating them up worse

[violet raft]

Prob going to skip him tho

And just wait for gogeta

But it is like 100 rrs a day

From afking

[frail latch]

Buh

[shadow flume]

I was gonna say that lol

[frail latch]

Well time to wait 5 days

[dawn rune]

did that happen to tengen aswell

[frail latch]

Idk

Someone data mined the game iirc for tengen

[shadow flume]

AND ITS INTENDED?

Oh hell nah

[violet raft]

Data mining av

[frail latch]

Oh great

[shadow flume]

So sad

[violet raft]

That’s stupid

[frail latch]

I got the familiar guys!

[shadow flume]

Thats just this 😭

[frail latch]

https://tenor.com/view/chibidoki-chibidoki-derp-gif-7054108602927231243

[frail latch]

Nooooooooo

Wdym bro

[violet raft]

This should be the last v familiar for 2 updates

We already have 4

[frail latch]

There gonna do 2 Vfamiliars for every update

Cuz its free slop farm

[violet raft]

[dawn rune]

and potientally 1 vanguard every 0.5

[violet raft]

These devs are going to turn into Als devs Ngl

[frail latch]

Yum yum yum i love slop 🐷

[broken tulip]

We got the familiar

Its bugged tho

[frail latch]

Yeah were camping gen 2 for leaks

[violet raft]

Wrong img

[shadow flume]

Crazy

[violet raft]

[broken tulip]

Just waiting for leaks now

[dawn rune]

i wonder what hes first passive whill it

[violet raft]

What?

[dawn rune]

i wonder what hell first passive woueld be

[violet raft]

?

[frail latch]

Buff all holy ally units by 32%

second passive is the standard dmg buff

[dawn rune]

what specifically 32

[cosmic heart]

top 1 of broken

sukuna is no more

[frail latch]

3rd is, followup with enuma elish whenever crits

[violet raft]

Because that’s how many summons there are in fate

[frail latch]

Idk

[dawn rune]

the lead tester then begs for second evo to still be able to use the familiar

[frail latch]

Familiars won’t work on the evo

[dawn rune]

why else would they beg

[frail latch]

Confirmed by valk

I hate vfamiliars

[violet raft]

Second evo will have another familiar

[frail latch]

Such a slop system

[shadow flume]

He lowk gonna have smth with buffs to fate units

[violet raft]

All the fate units suck

[shadow flume]

Dont talk to my salter like that

Shes trying her best

[cedar trench]

are you sure it isnt just using the vfam chooser in the wish event?

[frail latch]

i have no clue

i just heard it when i was in suggesations and never decided to look further into it

[cedar trench]

ok what the fuck is with afk chamber button not being there

[cedar trench]

ishtar bro 😭

[frail latch]

drip feeding session #99

[dawn rune]

first way to obtainable vgilga

you sacifiace 2 vanguard familiars of gilgamesh

[cedar trench]

link

[frail latch]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-thatboiicheck-gunna-young-thug-hot-gif-15959855

[frail latch]

not out yet

[cedar trench]

easy as hell

what next, sacrifice 2 gilgameshes?

[dawn rune]

next objective is to get a shiny 0 update tournament unit

and then sacrifice that

[cedar trench]

no...

[cedar trench]

please no...

not my mechamaru...

[frail latch]

Hm

[dawn rune]

Hey what does that text say under vanguard rarity

[frail latch]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-kohaku-tss-quiet-shush-gif-934754763926686977

there is a sleeper agent watching

[cosmic heart]

2nd placement

or am i tweaking...

[frail latch]

Intentional

[cosmic heart]

ohh

OHHH

i get it

[frail latch]

Yeahhhhh

[cosmic heart]

heh...

keep cooking yo

[frail latch]

https://tenor.com/view/campfire-cooking-campfire-cooking-in-another-world-campfire-cooking-in-another-world-with-this-absurd-skill-gif-12097857538077312288

[soft lotus]

Crimson moon in av are we doomed

[dawn rune]

What does rigged dice do again

[shadow flume]

Guarantees c3 or c4

[dawn rune]

It doesn't give out a maxed potential just that?

[shadow flume]

For what ive seen, yea just that

The fact that u can get c4 is awful

But oh well

[dawn rune]

what were the chances to get rigged dice again

[sweet totem]

1/10m

[dawn rune]

...thats tenth right

[deep flax]

read it all , peak suggestion

[trail basin]

@frail latch

how do u do new gif thing

its not gifmaker anymore rifht

the ezgif thing

[frail latch]

If uour tryna replace images in a thread you can just copy the images link

[sweet totem]

Escanor soon

surely someone would give me a bundle to roll on him

Right?

[cedar trench]

ill give you an escanor if you give me a bundle or tachyon

[opal salmon]

Why not

What is this specifically for

Cuz undead unluck units would be fire

[merry grove]

new years event that would rerun every new year with 1-2 new units each time

[rigid coral]

fuuko works actually I was extremely wrong back then

since loops play in the series too

idk what I was thinking back then

[dawn rune]

probably was on something

[rigid coral]

probably

[opal salmon]

Fuuko as a unit...

Would probably work similarly to coyote starrk where she hits someone with an attack and a follow up (kinda like the wolves) will come dealing extra dmg

[rigid coral]

yeah

[opal salmon]

Andy as a unit would be fire too, being immune to all debuffs or status effects would be an obvious passive for him

[merry grove]

idk why i didn't think of this back then but literally any re zero character would fit too

or isekai character in general

[opal salmon]

Imagine

Someone like regulus

The passives would go insane

[dawn rune]

just as long as it isnt the mid ones

[merry grove]

truth nuke

i was gonna mention regulus

echidna would be a tuff familiar

[opal salmon]

Divine protection merchant

[bold ledge]

checkpoint to top for mobile users to look

[frail latch]

thanks brotato

i keep forgetting i should do that

[opal salmon]

Gear 5 luffy

🥰

(Probably not now)

[dawn rune]

gonna be changed into Cog V roughffy

[opal salmon]

Real

[small hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324487450290290811/1406003627750985768/togif.gif

[trail basin]

it don't work miso

[frail latch]

what are you doing

?

its just copy image link in discord then paste in original message

[trail basin]

turning this into thumbnail

[trail basin]

it doesn't do that tho

[frail latch]

let me try rq

[frail latch]

works for me

paste link here

[trail basin]

i just did that it didn't make a diference

[frail latch]

mabye paste it as the bottem?

what file did you export it as

[trail basin]

png

[frail latch]

i guess try making it a gif

[trail basin]

i did that and it didnt work

[frail latch]

then im guessing its related to the doc link

[trail basin]

welp i guess its time to repost

[frail latch]

cuz you made the google docs not show the inner parts in the cover right

so it probably effected the rest of links

yeah

[trail basin]

also

[frail latch]

this happened with my shirou one

[trail basin]

what do u think if the title page

or

coverpage?

whatever its called

[frail latch]

looks good, have a few nitpicks but overall good

[trail basin]

throw em at me

[frail latch]

-background should be blurred, just a bit
-Should add more fade out on the outline, or make it so that the thing inside the outline doesint look so flat
-I don't know how i feel about the text under "Update Redux"

other then that its good

more just personal nitpicks

[trail basin]

oh yeah i just added the text at the end

[trail basin]

what happened to dirwd 😭

they just

turned into dante

[frail latch]

they have been limbus companied

Meluko's server brainwashed him

ong

[trail basin]

💀

what do you think of this btw

[frail latch]

good

[trail basin]

so just no text is fine?

[frail latch]

yeah should be fine

don't think its necessary

[trail basin]

bet ty

[frail latch]

Drip stone

[cedar trench]

what the fucK?

what do you guys think of 54 seconds of bleed?

[wicked elbow]

guts best friend

[wicked elbow]

but yea that’s too much ngl lol

10 sec max

[cedar trench]

how about this:
Enemies that got Wounded by this unit that have CC effects on them can stay as long as wounded stays.

[turbid hill]

Isn’t that permanent stun

[cedar trench]

right right

I know there's like levels of CC

maybe I can use that

yeah this one

[wicked elbow]

can’t you just reapply wounded immediately

so yea stun could be inf

[turbid hill]

I’m believe that’s just slow, it could be cool but I’m not sure how useful it would be

[wicked elbow]

or change it so wounded lasts x amount of seconds and would then have to be reapplied and the CC would have to need time to reset lockout

[cedar trench]

alr how about this:
Enemies that got Wounded by this unit that have non-bleed effects that aren't hard CCs can stay as long as wounded stays.

[wicked elbow]

idk

so like slow?

and bubbles

[cedar trench]

Rip Van Winkle [DMG equal to 75% of the Bleed]
Magic Bullet - Every 5 Blood stacks, attacks add another second of Wounded to already Wounded units. Does 50% more of the Bleed on Wounded enemies.
Depletes 10 stacks every attack.
Lasts for 5 attacks.

basically a support for supports

[cedar trench]

bubbles are temporary

they last until they got hit

[wicked elbow]

oh ye

so only rlly slow would work

oh ye and nullify

[cedar trench]

I made it so slow and cleave and scorches and whatever effects get affected as well

except for hard CCs or bleed

[wicked elbow]

basicly any cc that doesnt lockout

i get it

[cedar trench]

yeah

cool right?

[wicked elbow]

yea

u could do that

[turbid hill]

Yup:)

[sterile latch]

huh

[cedar trench]

Remind me: per placement cooldown

[cedar trench]

34 secs of bleed

32 secs of wounded

[frail latch]

check out this super tech

[cedar trench]

?

@frail latch the dmg from bleed is over time right not per tick?

[frail latch]

Yes

[cedar trench]

so even if the bleed is like 380% the dmg, it'd still suck if it's over 34 seconds?

[frail latch]

Ehhh

If it can stack

If not it would suck

[cedar trench]

no stacking

[dawn rune]

11% damage per second

[cedar trench]

maybe refreshing

[cedar trench]

yeahh

maybe I need to add a buff on the bleed per duration

@frail latch what do you think would be a dps of a supdps?

[frail latch]

Alucard in general?

[cedar trench]

nonono

[frail latch]

Or just the effect

[cedar trench]

this meta

right now

what are the subdps units' dps

[frail latch]

Hold on

Lemme check

[cedar trench]

alr

[frail latch]

Some i can list off the top of my head are

Griffith, Starrk

[cedar trench]

non-monarch dps pls

preferrably 3 placements

[frail latch]

Griffith, Starrk, Gojo, Quetz, Lancer, Armin

[cedar trench]

what are their dps?

[frail latch]

Idk man

Look it up

[cedar trench]

damn

[frail latch]

Sub dos units can have insane numbers

Theres a bunch of other factors that go into determining a units role

[cedar trench]

i want this alucard to have to choose either subdps or support of supports

I just need a good dps check

[turbid hill]

upper meta sub dps do like 100k dps I believe

That’s upper meta tho

[cedar trench]

that's like with passives and monarch

or lotta setup

[turbid hill]

Yea u would have to calculate the units dps with all the passives to find out if its good or not

[turbid hill]

Could you read a passive real quick and tell me if u think it’s balanced?

[frail latch]

Sure

[turbid hill]

On hit This unit applies Black flames dealing 1000% damge over 1000 seconds. This units black flames consume all other Burn Based Dot. increase This units DOT by 50% for each DOT consumed

[cedar trench]

is 22.8k dps good?

[turbid hill]

Sorry for the bad grammar and formatting

[frail latch]

How frequently is this applied

How hard is it to achieve

[turbid hill]

Uhh with the normal attack…

Would that be too op

[frail latch]

Yeah no

[turbid hill]

Yea ok

[cedar trench]

that's 16 minutes of gametime 😭

[turbid hill]

How about when they enter the range

[turbid hill]

Yea it’s supposed to last forever

The actual number doesn’t matter

[cedar trench]

it does 1% every sec

[turbid hill]

Yup

[frail latch]

How is that any different from on attack

[turbid hill]

Cuz it’s only once?

Uhh

Ok ima have to change it a lot then

[cedar trench]

does it increase by addition or multiplication?

[turbid hill]

Addition

[cedar trench]

oh ok

[turbid hill]

This is probably a dumb question but what’s wrong with it is it the amount of time or is the damage?

[cedar trench]

kinda slow and

this is just escanor if it didnt have a bug

[turbid hill]

Huh wdym slow?

[frail latch]

I think i interpreted wrong the first time but my major gripe is that instead of burn dot increasing it flat out it should speed up/ cause another effect

[cedar trench]

like to get 100% of the damage, you gotta wait 100 secs

is there any utility on the black flame?

[turbid hill]

Nope just normal burn damage

[cedar trench]

i dont mind chip dmg over time as long as it has utility other than being chip dmg

escanor's chip dmg makes sense since his dmg is high as hell

@turbid hill is your unit's dmg high as hell?

[turbid hill]

Uhh

I haven’t figured that out yet

Idk what else I would do for Amaterasu

[cedar trench]

think

[turbid hill]

Ok

[cedar trench]

what would be a good utility to add

on the unit

it could be support

or it could support their own dps

[turbid hill]

Well he has other utilities

[cedar trench]

does it tie with black flames?

[turbid hill]

Nope

[cedar trench]

or can you tie it back with black flames?

[turbid hill]

Lemme try that

[cedar trench]

how about a bleed dps of 33.4k?

that's monarch dps btw

[turbid hill]

When a enemy enters this units range apply Black flames dealing 1% of this units damage every second until the enemy dies. When this units black flames are applied turn all other burn based dot on the enemy into this units black flames dealing 0.5% of this units damage every second

Changed it is that better?

[turbid hill]

What is the percentage of the bleed?

[cedar trench]

710%

[turbid hill]

Holy

[cedar trench]

over 34 seconds

[turbid hill]

Oh

[cedar trench]

yeah

[turbid hill]

If it’s supposed to be a subdps that should be pretty good depending on the other passives and spa

[cedar trench]

it's monarch dps btw

so 8.3k dps normally

not monarch

should it be better?

what if I doubled it?

[turbid hill]

I mean 8.3k dos is really bad but if ur using a unit as a sub dps ur probably running monarch anway

[cedar trench]

powercreep is insane man

[turbid hill]

Yea

[cedar trench]

actually without blood stacks it'd be only 510% of dmg

over 34 secs

or 24k as monarch

[turbid hill]

Hmm

[cedar trench]

or 6k dps

[turbid hill]

Yea that is probably under powered

[plucky vigil]

this is ridiculously well made

[cedar trench]

what if I double the dps?

[turbid hill]

Yea all of there suggestions are amazing

[turbid hill]

I don’t know how strong the rest of the kit is but 48k dps shouldn’t be game breaking

[cedar trench]

monarch dps right?

[turbid hill]

Yea

[cedar trench]

@turbid hill max 66.8k

[turbid hill]

Sounds pretty good

[cedar trench]

89.6k if we add his actual attack dps

[frail latch]

What the fuck

[cedar trench]

6 hour sleep

[cedar trench]

should alucard's familiars be static summons like vsjw's steel or just placeable units?

wait nvm i cant sell a static summon

[sweet totem]

Caster Gil ain’t a fraud tho

[frail latch]

Drip feeding #67

Dawg has like 10 passives

[soft lotus]

this gil has nothing to do with enkidu or uruk in the story. those elements arent erased from his myth but ccc simply doesnt touch them. his characterization is built around hakuno/n and the moon cell, not around his old world bounds

https://tenor.com/view/fate-extra-gilgamesh-ccc-hakuno-gif-12531023805022827321

but he refers to them sometimes. as enkidu is not a major char in ccc, we dont see him fighting, intervining or having a big role. he remains more of a conceptual reference, echo or memory of gil

[wicked elbow]

how do you do text gradient

[frail latch]

Yes i know, but its also gils strongest form and is more thematic as a unit kit

[frail latch]

Dark color on bottom, light color on top

Gaussian blur

[wicked elbow]

how tf i do it on ibis 😭

[frail latch]

Just lock the layer the text is on, idk whats it called in ibis but for me its alpha lock

Then color in

Then use any blur tool

[soft lotus]

its actually alive gil

when his abilities and powers are not limited by alaya and gaia

[frail latch]

I do know it doesn’t make alot of sense but again is thematic as a unit kit and is better then just switching to his plain ol archer form since we already have that in the game

[sweet totem]

why would you unconnect me @cosmic heart 💔

[frail latch]

LOL

[wicked elbow]

ts ah 😭

i’m trying

[soft lotus]

test

[cedar trench]

💀

[wicked elbow]

yes it’s ass 😭

[cedar trench]

show me how you do it

i dont know much about ibis but maybe the gradient setting is familiar

[wicked elbow]

so i had colored the text blue put it in alpha lock thingy then used filter thing then this shows

i can change the colors btw

[cedar trench]

press this thing

[wicked elbow]

it just swaped the colors to the other side 😭

idk which gradient av does

[cedar trench]

oh you're using parallel gradient

[wicked elbow]

yea

[cedar trench]

show me other gradients

[wicked elbow]

does av use a dif one

[cedar trench]

just show me other gradients

[cedar trench]

hmm

[cedar trench]

what's the middle thing?

also do you think that 15k dps would be good?

[wicked elbow]

that’s how the gradient looks it’s like a concentration

imagine white all around with black in the middle as a circle or sum

idk how to position the gradients for text yet i think i’ll figure it out sooner or later

[cedar trench]

no i mean the middle

the "Middle"

with it's own setting

[wicked elbow]

Ohhh

hold on

[cedar trench]

try messing with it

[turbid hill]

I believe AV’s gradient is diagonal

[wicked elbow]

i can change the angle to make it diagonal

danm bru who know making suggestions this hard

[cedar trench]

on mythic, secret, vanguard texts?

or passive titles?

passive titles are on the low end

like simple gradient

[wicked elbow]

i think it’s diagonal on unit boxes and skills

[wicked elbow]

but text is parallel i think

yea

[wicked elbow]

yea that’s for rarity

[wicked elbow]

i mean like passive stuff like this

[cedar trench]

did you try the Middle setting?

what did it do?

[turbid hill]

I think it’s cuz u have to many colors

[cedar trench]

no no his gradient starts in the middle for some reason

so it's some other setting

most likely the Middle setting

[turbid hill]

Oh ok

[wicked elbow]

nah i only got 2

the middle don’t do nun to write home about from what i can see

it just raises the gradient for certain parts

[cedar trench]

wym

wym by raises it on certain parts?

[wicked elbow]

mb it basicly adds the lines

[cedar trench]

what lines

[wicked elbow]

if i go to 0 it’s all the first color

[cedar trench]

ok so it adjusts the gradients?

[wicked elbow]

yea like the lines u can see

[cedar trench]

the placement of the gradients?

[wicked elbow]

like how it fades

not placement

[cedar trench]

just adjust it to only show the parts you wanted it to show

[wicked elbow]

cuz if i put it to 0 it’s only shows the first color and if it set it to 100 it only shows the 2nd color

it’s basicly the gradient ratio

[cedar trench]

mess around it more

if it doesnt work show me the other settings

[small hornet]

as it should be

[cosmic heart]

https://tenor.com/view/britt-lower-me-gif-4253874873149092130

i dont think i ever had you added

MY BAD

w profile banner tho

[cedar trench]

does bleed duration refresh when bleed units attack?

[sweet totem]

Dammit

[cedar trench]

get your damn horse outta the frame

[sweet totem]

No applauding

fkin escanor didn’t wanna be shiny

in the shiny event

[cedar trench]

how many escanor do you have

[sweet totem]

1

[soft lotus]

Did you grind portals or that stupid summer event

[cedar trench]

💀

[sweet totem]

Both

[cedar trench]

bro's complaining because he got 1 escanor

[sweet totem]

look at my pity bro

[cedar trench]

WHAT THE FUCK IM NOT GETTING THE MYTHICS

NOT A SINGLE FUCKING RINER

except for that

that's old tho

[sweet totem]

Rejoin

[cedar trench]

what the fuck is happening

[clever quiver]

Shiny event isnt real

[sweet totem]

i got shiny caster, 2 shiny alis and 2 shiny heis

[clever quiver]

can you gimmie some luck bro i cant pull squat this game hates me

[soft lotus]

[clever quiver]

bro sabers sword, reimus circle and a red aura would be perfect for a saber alter avatar

[frail latch]

What the hell happened to bro

[sweet totem]

wdym

[cedar trench]

well well well tinytask is shitting itself

it wont fucking loop

continuous playback and stops at the first fucking loop

[clever quiver]

U got evil tiny task bro

[soft lotus]

miku dayo

[clever quiver]

Teto dayo

[sweet totem]

Neru dayo

[toxic matrix]

Blehh

[clever quiver]

I finally got shiny bridget guys 🥹

[violet raft]

Ok

I think I can finish the sinking team today

Since I have the unit now

[cedar trench]

the hell is shiny bridget

[violet raft]

The yo yo girl

[cedar trench]

the hell is shiny bridget

[cedar trench]

oh it's the old design

[frail latch]

rip to my 5 month mc world

removed a mod and it absolutely nuked my data

https://tenor.com/view/fujino-look-back-tatsuki-fujimoto-manga-anime-gif-1069387741736806326

[cedar trench]

bro removed a retexture mod that is the toothpick of all the other mods

the singular jpeg file that's keeping the data stable

[plucky vigil]

i feel like we have enough fate for now

[merry grove]

yo

what mod could you have possibly removed

[merry grove]

https://tenor.com/view/un-named-show-unnamed-show-uns-stan-twitter-true-gif-5592232068421360570

[broken tulip]

No

[frail latch]

some fuckin deco mod, tried redownloading it but its just gone now

stuck in a wooden cabin

[cedar trench]

yeah maybe we don't need 999 units, maybe just 998

[cedar trench]

called it

[merry grove]

b

[frail latch]

Will post gilga and rin whenever im done learning how create mod works

Pretty much finished both just need to do the attacks but kinda lazy to do them

And gotta figure out how the destroy addon for create functions

[floral bluff]

oh the feeling of getting shibuya aftermath after brute forcing your way through a sand village act 6

[merry grove]

create my belived

i built a cool mining train with it

and elevators

[frail latch]

This mod is NOT for the weak 💔

Chemistry addon absolutely sick but confusing as hell

Booooorrrring

I must figure out how to do it in my little hut

[sweet totem]

Look at the reactions guys

[cedar trench]

you're gonna destroy your little hut

[cedar trench]

i thought that was me for a sec

[cedar trench]

chat is this real?

[sweet totem]

Alucard skin pls.

[cedar trench]

what no shiny alucard does to a mf

[soft lotus]

What are the anniversary units we getting

[cedar trench]

rare dio oh 1k dps max

[soft lotus]

Dio oh

[sweet totem]

https://tenor.com/view/gudako-gudako-doom-gudako-mascot-gif-12051301127132430784

[cedar trench]

i was about to say something i couldnt here

[frail latch]

https://tenor.com/view/yoshimoto-shizuka-shizuka-yoshimoto-shizuka-sushizuka-kimi-no-koto-ga-daidaidaidaidaisuki-na-100-nin-no-kanojo-gif-14621631028803621214

One day chat

[frail latch]

Day one ☝️

[soft lotus]

miso chan when you gonna do oberon unit concept

[merry grove]

miso chan... when you gonna do spishtar & first hassan unit concepts

[merry grove]

https://tenor.com/view/so-cute-crying-girl-anime-the-aristocrat's-otherworldly-adventure-serving-gods-who-go-too-far-maid-gif-1249328123017067409

[violet raft]

what does gilga familar do

[cedar trench]

it gilgas

the mesh

[cosmic escarp]

My offer is still up, i‘m awaiting your Gilgamesh concept

[frail latch]

yeah, just so much happening irl for me rn

(that and im also tryna learn how to play the create mod)

college is not for the weak

[cosmic escarp]

You got this

I believe in u

[merry grove]

https://youtu.be/VbudaoDh3pU?si=MzYSxtikE_yQXRua

YOOOOO

@frail latch

ITS ICE AND FIRE 2

LIKE THE SEQUEL

[frail latch]

boy wth

[merry grove]

they're remaking the whole mod

it's gonna peak so fucking hard

THE DRAGONS ARE SO NICE

BETTER THAN BEFORE

[frail latch]

whens it out

[merry grove]

no clue

i'm hoping release of the mod is kept to just dragons so it can come out soon lmao

[frail latch]

https://tenor.com/view/hikawa-hina-bang-dream-bandori-anime-menacing-gif-20748824

[merry grove]

the dragons feel like actual bosses now

the huge ones underground can flap their wings on the ground to like push players back

it's so heat

the dragons can pick up mobs including players with their talons too to lift them into the air & drop them down

this is a dream come true for me

ice and fire was my favorite mod when i was younger & i've been wanting a modernized version of it since 2019 😭

i'm becoming jalter in minecraft with ice and fire 2 + iron's spells🙏

[shadow flume]

Crazy that the leak was real

Uh

[frail latch]

noble phantasm

yk

[soft lotus]

ass familiar

[shadow flume]

Or no potential

[frail latch]

omg

this is all your fault 57ro

tabbed out for one second

and got jumped by a centipede

[shadow flume]

Lowk

Sounds like a skill issue

[frail latch]

OH MY FUCKING GOD

i tab out again to check ur message

straw ass zombie with tnt

[shadow flume]

Lmfao

Kaizo ahh mod or what

[frail latch]

im moving bro

i lost all my shit

it can not get worse bro

im just tryna sail to a new continent

[soft lotus]

They need to slap MMC on gil

[shadow flume]

Units can get more than one vfamiliar, huh

Wdym

They could change the role of the unit

Idk

[merry grove]

unfortunately

[shadow flume]

Look at the good side

+280 rrs

[frail latch]

so guys

is gilgamesh good

oh great

one of the worst unit niches

[cedar trench]

my god it

it's real

she's putting chains on the tracks after attacks

what do you guys think?

[frail latch]

LOL

guys i don't think they like gilga

[shadow flume]

My main problem is that its really lazy 😭

[shadow flume]

At least he is better

[frail latch]

OH WAIT LOL

THEY DID

[cedar trench]

i cant see the np stacks they're talking about

[frail latch]

well

these vfamilairs bro

als parasite took over av

[cedar trench]

wym

[frail latch]

slop content

[cedar trench]

oh shit I saw him start using the np stack whatever

it's the uhh

gates of babylon

[frail latch]

no we will not

its been 4 familiars

and all of them have been the most lazily produced kits ive ever seen

[cedar trench]

they still need to fix his animations

[soft lotus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1251505129585119272/1423104264581943356/togif.gif

[cedar trench]

they wanna build on top of the ass passives

[soft lotus]

Cave man meeting with ai

[frail latch]

sir no human drew that

[shadow flume]

Boo ai

We dont want clankers

[merry grove]

this actually made me giggle

a fair bit too

[cedar trench]

mexico ahh generation

[shadow flume]

Wtf is this 😭

[violet raft]

Who does gogeta have 3 arms

[ivory tapir]

idk

[cedar trench]

db character doing the damn arm poses so much ai thought they cant live without it

||debra definitely drugged herself and framed hannah||

||nvm hannah did drug debra||

[cedar trench]

my god passion confluence is cool as hell

using mind control to use against the enemy

@sweet totem insane femgogeta

[sweet totem]

?

[cedar trench]

in gen

double immortal

anyway elemental confluence is pretty fun

makes niche and kinda underpowered abilities to shine

and kinda opens my eyes on some units that i thought was kinda bad

rimuru's upgrade cost reduction

switching upgrades between rimurus

pretty interesting strategy

Everywhere and Nowhere - If this unit disappears by means outside of manual selling, the placement after will be this unit with an added unknown element that follow up with an attack with DMG equal to 100% of the Bleed. Enemies that got Wounded by this unit that have non-bleed effects that aren't hard CCs can stay as long as wounded stays. Your placements share the same Buffs and Blood stack. (Does not stack)

is it too much?

[frail latch]

seems fine

[cedar trench]

how about this?

River of Blood - Attacks inflict Bleed by 20% of DMG for 2 seconds. Enemies that enter this unit's range while Bleeding will be afflicted with Wounded. Gain Blood stack for every Bleeding enemy in range or for every takedown; Each stack adds +1% DMG to Bleed; Each 30 stacks adds a second of Bleed. Automatically activates "River of Blood" after hitting 180 stacks.

[frail latch]

Mabye increase wounded effectiveness by x% per stack instead of bleeding?

Or is he supposed to be bleed dps

[cedar trench]

I like bleed dps

yeah he is

everything revolves around his bleed

[frail latch]

Alr ignore that then

[cedar trench]

wounded tho

I thought wounded could be like a support for supports

[frail latch]

Support for support?

[cedar trench]

increasing wound effectiveness might be too op

[cedar trench]

read everywhere and nowhere again

[broken tulip]

River of blood?

[cedar trench]

Enemies that got Wounded by this unit that have non-bleed effects that aren't hard CCs can stay as long as wounded stays.

[frail latch]

Oh right

[cedar trench]

River of Blood - Requires 100 stacks; Release all the souls taken as blood stacks unto the tracks, growing and shrinking by how much stacks this unit has. Keeps Bleed buff from activation and depletes a stack every 2 seconds until it reaches 0. Doubles stack depletion when over 100 stack. The river on the tracks inflict Double of the Bleed and Wounded on any enemy that steps on it. (100s Global CD)

[broken tulip]

River of blood elden ring reference

Im funny right

[cedar trench]

and then I'd have an ability where you can place down a unit where it buffs wounded so it would linger after it goes out of range or out of bleed

[cedar trench]

idk that reference

[broken tulip]

Just a famous weapon in elden ring dw

[frail latch]

https://tenor.com/view/seak-seakw-rain-anime-anime-girl-gif-18190394212030541533

[cedar trench]

`Rip Van Winkle [DMG equal to 75% of the Bleed]
Magic Bullet - For every 10 Blood stacks, attacks add a second of Wounded to already Wounded units. (Cannot stack)
Depletes 5 stacks every attack.

Familiar lasts for 5 attacks.
(40s Per-Placement CD starting from when the Familiar disappears)`

wait if i increase bleed duration, it doesn't debuff the tick dmg?

if that's the case, i might've fucked up

[merry grove]

b

[merry grove]

B

[soft lotus]

the

[frail latch]

Finally a break from lectures

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-gif-14887144685173519659

Expect big things to come once Bray responds to my dm

[cedar trench]

this minion aint shit

[frail latch]

p

[soft lotus]

j

[cedar trench]

j

[cedar trench]

be scared

[cedar trench]

i didnt expect 30 rrs to be monarch

[floral bluff]

OOH yEAH BABY

[frail latch]

will be posting gil in a hour

just gotta do one last thing

format is a bit rushed but concept itself should be fine