#Change The New Player Quest Unit (Down the line)

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valid turret
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I think its time to change the unit rewarded to new players in order to improve their experience, especially with the increase in difficulty in story mode/legend stages and challenges. This is because I ALWAYS see new players asking for help in stages and with the way the community is, no one is really willing to.

I think instead of giving Vegeta, a unit like Yoruichi/Archer. These units are better and will give newer players more of a fighting chance, especially against modifiers like energy drain, resilience, and or just straight up stuff they cant already solo

Additionally, since the devs were talking about adding a mascot, they could use this as an opportunity, make the mascot the quest unit.

If not adding/providing an additional unit, just add some sort of additional help to new players so they arent begging for help 24/7

**You could also just create an Intermediate quest with one of those units with decent requirements to further assist new players or make challenges not hell **

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valid turret
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TLDR; Let vegita rest and put in a diff mythic

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watch it uncplex

velvet fog
clever harbor
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Just give them a monarch rare luffy that’s good enough for them 🥱

robust glade
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I don’t think it’s a good idea to remove Vegeta

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They can adding addiction quest for it

pseudo bobcat
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theyre already giving vegeta to new players for free

valid turret
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an additional quest is also a good choice

pseudo bobcat
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that used to NOT be a thing

robust glade
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Yoruichi or Archer is a good option but
Yo: you need the material which you hard to farm for it, I’m not sure if a newbie can beat Naruto LS either
Archer: you need many material

valid turret
pseudo bobcat
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why should a starter unit be able to carry a player through the entire game?

robust glade
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I agree That we need a better unit for newbie but I don’t think we can ask for more

pseudo bobcat
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tf is that logic

valid turret
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they wont 💀

robust glade
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He said Yo or Archer

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Which is not even meta

valid turret
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i think an additional quest would be a better option since i forgot to take into account evolution requirements

pseudo bobcat
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new players dont need a bigger advantage end of story

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they have already been provided with resources and hand-holding

tough rock
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I hate new players too

valid turret
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but either way point still stands, vegeta wont do much past fate or maybe bleach

pseudo bobcat
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and every update just beings more qol and beenfits to newer players

valid turret
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and gem gain isnt that good

clever harbor
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Just give them a evo shiny cid

robust glade
pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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💀

pseudo bobcat
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you cant be fr

tough rock
robust glade
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Vegeta can solo Yhwach ls

clever harbor
valid turret
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💀

pseudo bobcat
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there are so many easy ways to progress early game

tough rock
valid turret
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"leeching opportunities" ok hold on

pseudo bobcat
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yes they can literally leech anything

robust glade
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What?

pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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leeching opportunities where 😭

pseudo bobcat
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all rpovide rewards

tough rock
valid turret
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people wont help in story or legend stage

robust glade
clever harbor
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How we just give new players a trail vanguard unit where it goes away when they finish all of story

valid turret
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or theyre only looking for monarchs for the new legend stage

robust glade
pseudo bobcat
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thats what im saying

valid turret
pseudo bobcat
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constantly

robust glade
tough rock
robust glade
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And ngl, 500 for Infi quest

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Which newbie ain’t manage to reach

pseudo bobcat
robust glade
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And it’s only 10 rolls

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Without vip

pseudo bobcat
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people are so dumb 🤦‍♂️

valid turret
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just add an intermediate quest and throw yoruichi in, with decent requirements

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this guy just fucking hates new players LOL

tough rock
robust glade
pseudo bobcat
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they dont need any more advantages though??

tough rock
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shes 10x harder to evo

pseudo bobcat
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why are we encouraging constant hand-holding

robust glade
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Who’s dumb here brochaco?

pseudo bobcat
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tf

pseudo bobcat
pseudo bobcat
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is it not true that a lvl 1 can get kaguya?

robust glade
pseudo bobcat
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or are you going to deny that

tough rock
valid turret
robust glade
pseudo bobcat
tough rock
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you need to be able to solo one of the hardest legend stages to evo her

valid turret
robust glade
robust glade
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Bro

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If you stupid, just get tf out

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Pmo

pseudo bobcat
robust glade
pseudo bobcat
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are you going to keep insulting me or admit your stupidity

valid turret
pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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ur dumb vro

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😭

robust glade
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admit your stupidity, ain’t buying it

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Can’t help this mf

pseudo bobcat
robust glade
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Otter, deal with him, I don’t feel like hurt my brain rn

pseudo bobcat
robust glade
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Cya

valid turret
robust glade
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In general

pseudo bobcat
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500+ gems per run

valid turret
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the maps are random

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ur so funny

pseudo bobcat
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but thats just ANOTHER method of preogression

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that i didnt even mention

valid turret
robust glade
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Btw otter, I still stand my opinion, Vegeta quest should not be changed, more addiction should be better idea

pseudo bobcat
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tell me how new players struggle with progression

valid turret
pseudo bobcat
tough rock
valid turret
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like yes bro

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vegita will be able to do something against the newer maps

pseudo bobcat
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besides challenge/bounty

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because you think theyre impossible for some odd reason

valid turret
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like i said bro read the post 😭

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read the post bro

pseudo bobcat
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I did

robust glade
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You did 25%

pseudo bobcat
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im telling you that new players dont need more hand holding??

valid turret
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why do you think they dont

pseudo bobcat
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why should a level 10 player have a unit that bypasses energy drain

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go fucking grind for one?

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LOOL

valid turret
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they still have to get a rupture/bleed unit anyways

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😭

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like what

pseudo bobcat
tough rock
pseudo bobcat
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and even more effectively through selection banner

valid turret
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grinding for gems still isnt that simple

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for a chance to even get the right unit

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💀

pseudo bobcat
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how else do you think we progressed during upds .5 and .75

pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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im not even saying let them solo the the entire thing

pseudo bobcat
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wave 10 of inf gives you 100

valid turret
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literally just improve the experience so they arent in the chats asking for help 24/7

pseudo bobcat
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takes 2 minutes

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leeching rifts gives you 750 per

valid turret
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100 gems 🔥

pseudo bobcat
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bp gives you lots of gems

valid turret
valid turret
pseudo bobcat
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progression in itself gives gems?

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odyssey?

valid turret
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💀

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are u even serious

tough rock
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you get like 20k gems alone from the unit index

pseudo bobcat
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yes it is traitless

pseudo bobcat
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you can bring vegeta evo to odyssey limitless

valid turret
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ah u mean the one from banner

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fair

pseudo bobcat
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and get through multiple stages

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just delete this suggestion tbh

valid turret
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idk why bro is so against new players 💀

pseudo bobcat
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why do I keep repeating myself

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im saying they dont need more benefits

valid turret
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they dont need more benefits just because u said so

pseudo bobcat
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multiplayer + mvp has skyrocketed the leecher count

valid turret
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its a qol suggestion

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and it doesnt have to be implemented next update

pseudo bobcat
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level 1s already have access to meta vanguard units

valid turret
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its something to take into consideration later on

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ur whining over the dumbest shit

pseudo bobcat
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people can leech rifts until guarenteed yhwahc/astolfo

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not whining just stating reasons why your suggestion is garbage

valid turret
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wtf are u on abt

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u literally told new players to do odyssey 😭

pseudo bobcat
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are you trying to say level 30 is a high level

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or something

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that is still considered a new player

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tf

valid turret
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bro

pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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💀

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ok bro

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ill tell the new players to do odyssey

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and leech rift

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while they cant even beat the story

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😭

pseudo bobcat
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dont forget afk chamber for best unit in game

tough rock
valid turret
pseudo bobcat
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i am beyond lucky

robust glade
valid turret
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and beyond stupid 😭

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yes bro

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every new player will just load in and get kaguya

valid turret
pseudo bobcat
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you fail to see that EVERY player in the game can afk for the best unit

valid turret
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actually just remove the quest since they CAN just get the 0.005% unit

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makes sense

robust glade
valid turret
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oh my god

pseudo bobcat
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ducking fumbass

valid turret
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ur so dumb 😭

barren girder
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or they could just add more starting quests like als

pseudo bobcat
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atp you are in denial

valid turret
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dude js has something against new players bro

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its insane

tough rock
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i'm 100% with giving new players more stuff

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do they need it?

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not really

pseudo bobcat
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not at all 😭

barren girder
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ye but what if u were a new player

robust glade
barren girder
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im rly not tryna grind when everyone is so far ahead

pseudo bobcat
barren girder
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give them more boosts as updates come out

valid turret
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literally

barren girder
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but dont make it too easy

valid turret
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dude has ZERO consideration for others 😭

tough rock
robust glade
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Lol

pseudo bobcat
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then what is it

tough rock
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it wans't hard at all to get something decent

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and starting doing the harder content

pseudo bobcat
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how does having monarchs support your argument

robust glade
pseudo bobcat
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ohhh makes sense

barren girder
valid turret
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all im saying is later down the line, change the unit so new players arent fucking struggling and repeatedly asking for help in the lfg channels and getting ignored

pseudo bobcat
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"that monarch ruin your fucking iq"

valid turret
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and this dude is on his fucking high horse

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😭

pseudo bobcat
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a deep cut has been inflicted on me

tough rock
barren girder
worn umbra
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I feel like Vegeta is the perfect beginner unit, as he's solid in the early stages of the game where you just wanna clear story

valid turret
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Change The New Player Quest Unit (Down the line)

worn umbra
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not to mention that he's easy to evo

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since he just need senzus

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which you get from the first few stages

pseudo bobcat
tough rock
pseudo bobcat
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how long are we gonna condone the babysitting of new players

valid turret
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"babysitting" and its just helping them not have a shitty experience 😭

barren girder
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yo star u on smth

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?

valid turret
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hes literally insane

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istg

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😭

pseudo bobcat
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this si real time btw

barren girder
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nah hes right they exist

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but why is it a bad thing

pseudo bobcat
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where are new players struggling?

barren girder
valid turret
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that other players will need help with

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😭

pseudo bobcat
barren girder
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well yeah hes in the legend stage channel

valid turret
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newer*

barren girder
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...

pseudo bobcat
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you cant be serious

valid turret
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look in the challenges channel

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💀

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ur showing shit that has no correlation to new players btw

pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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literally everyone does rift and the ex legend stage

pseudo bobcat
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im supporting my argument

valid turret
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everything ur showing has no correlation to new players 😭

pseudo bobcat
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it does have a correlation to the claim that I made; players abuse the leech mechanic to avoid grinding themselves

valid turret
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half the ss u sent theyre literally asking for help

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are u dumb

pseudo bobcat
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asking for help/leech

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i can give you a picture of

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pure leech

valid turret
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the only one theyre asking to leech in is in rift

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or portals

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literally everything else theyre having a hard time beating and need help

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hence why they are asking for people to play with

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cause idk if u know this, more people = higher chance of winning

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pack it up bro

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😭

worn umbra
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asking for help doesnt necessarily mean that they're gonna be completely useless, maybe they can clear like 90% of the stage but the boss comes in and fucks em over

valid turret
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literally

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this dude is just stupid

worn umbra
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ah shit i finished my cherries

pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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this proves absolutely fuck all

pseudo bobcat
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ok ill get a few from cid

valid turret
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you do know

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even end game players leech right?

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so what ur saying literally, once again, has ZERO correlation

worn umbra
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fair there are like 2 dudes in the first image with vsjw that just dont wanna play the game lmao

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like if you got vsjw there's no way youre not already late game
just having him alone is enough to clear 98% of contents

valid turret
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yes leeching was added to help new players, valk said that, but that doesnt mean the community will use it that way

pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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leeching isnt gonna help new players clear challenges or legend stages

pseudo bobcat
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oh my

valid turret
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💀

pseudo bobcat
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ill rephrase what you just said

valid turret
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go ahead

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"rephrase" it

pseudo bobcat
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"new players leeching off of rewards that would be unobtainable otherwise will not be able to use said rewards to progress in the game"

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so why is leeching a thing then?

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do people just leech for the sake of leeching?

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I mean its pretty obvious that people LEECH so that they could earn REWARDS that they would have otherwise not obtained

pseudo bobcat
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want me to tell you how many rrs a new player can earn just from leeching?

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for a week

valid turret
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people literally only look for leeching in very specific content

valid turret
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give the new players rrs

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cause they have units to use it on

pseudo bobcat
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absoloute dumbass

valid turret
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dont worry tho, they get 40 gems from leeching boss rush

valid turret
pseudo bobcat
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are you saying that leeching doesnt help players get units/evo materials/ rewards in general?

valid turret
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u hit lvl 30, which can still take a while

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and then u have to do how many rifts

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to even get the vow stone

pseudo bobcat
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I fail to understand how I can possibly change your mind

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if thats what you actually think

valid turret
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its okay, since they just have to wait and wait and wait and theyll eventually get something good

pseudo bobcat
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i think i should just label you as a dumbass and go on with my day

valid turret
tough rock
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yall should just kiss atp

pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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im not talking about essence btw

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i mean the items from legend stages

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yes synthesis is a thing

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but that still takes a while

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so how are new players supposed to evo their units?

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@pseudo bobcat

worn umbra
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maaan evolving units is so cringe i wish they'd just add like 6x of each evo mat if you've cleared the legend stage in the gold shop for like 20k/40k each

pseudo bobcat
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i wasnt talking about legend stage evo materials but

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go on if thats what you believe

worn umbra
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maybe that'll be my next suggestion

valid turret
pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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they need to evo their units tho?

pseudo bobcat
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indeed

valid turret
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how will they evolve their units from leeching

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i want an answer im genuinely asking

pseudo bobcat
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cid evo

valid turret
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💀

pseudo bobcat
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for example?

valid turret
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im done

pseudo bobcat
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just one

valid turret
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😭

pseudo bobcat
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theres gotta be something wrong with you

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cid evo item is from currency

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which leechers can use from leeching

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to buy?

valid turret
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thanks for the bumps

pseudo bobcat
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well so far you have gotten 3 upvotes

valid turret
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according to u cid is a new player unit

pseudo bobcat
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this shit aint going far 💔

valid turret
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not like the raid is end game or anything

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god damnit

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look what youve done

pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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new play will max the battlepass easily

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!!

valid turret
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and evolve aizen

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!!

worn umbra
pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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or get the evo items for gg units

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!!

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guilty gear IS plausible

valid turret
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due to synthesis

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but that still takes a while

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once again this is about improving their experience

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not fucking letting them clear everything like u think

pseudo bobcat
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there experience is already great

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their*

valid turret
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yes lets make new players repeat story mode hundreds of times to try to get a mythic from banner that they will struggle to evolve

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cause they will sit thru all of that and not be demotivated to play the game

pseudo bobcat
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so we are disregarding selection banners now

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makes sensee

worn umbra
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the only cringe part about the new player experience is doing the story

valid turret
pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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u act like selection banner guaranteed u get the unit u select

pseudo bobcat
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there is a literal pity

worn umbra
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50/50

valid turret
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LMAO

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this dude

pseudo bobcat
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there is a PITY

valid turret
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im actally done now tho

pseudo bobcat
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brother

valid turret
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i cant be bothered

pseudo bobcat
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400/400

worn umbra
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or 50/20/20/10 idk how it works

pseudo bobcat
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ring any bells?

valid turret
pseudo bobcat
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"i cant be bothered" then comes back with goofy argument

valid turret
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"goofy argument" and ur just stupid 😭

pseudo bobcat
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am i debating with a preschooler

valid turret
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selection banner only increases the chance for the middle unit

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doesnt guarantee it

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smarty pants

pseudo bobcat
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say your abcs real quick

worn umbra
# valid turret

ok now this one is a bit dumb considering how easy it is to get gems as a new player imo

valid turret
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because getting gems end game is still relatively the same difficulty

pseudo bobcat
worn umbra
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recently played on my alt
did like 5 multis
character index filled out by a lot
claim a lotta gems
rolled again

worn umbra
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PLUS the level up rewards give a pretty sizable amount

valid turret
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the unit index does help

timid stag
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ngl this isnt really needed vegeta is a very good standalone unit, by the time you get to martial island you will fs have better units to handle the energy drain

summer sedge
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First time clear for norm and nightmare will add up and u can get decently far with unevo vegeta

pseudo bobcat
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mmm nah

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give all new players meta mythic banner unit

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on join

worn umbra
pseudo bobcat
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"give them a better experience"

timid stag
pseudo bobcat
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or some bs

valid turret
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and theyre relative to vegita in dps

pseudo bobcat
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ok

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soooooo

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replace vegeta with vegeta v2?

timid stag
valid turret
timid stag
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you will not be able to complete the stages needed to evo them

timid stag
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vegeta is a perfect unit cause hes easy to evo

valid turret
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thats why i added to just make an extra quest

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that gives one of those

summer sedge
pseudo bobcat
summer sedge
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Since chall can and will fukc u lmao

pseudo bobcat
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since evo vegeta will be better than the unevo yoruichi and archer

summer sedge
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Ls shouldn't be changed imo

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As long as u can evo vegeta your mostly fine

pseudo bobcat
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doesnt

worn umbra
timid stag
summer sedge
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^

pseudo bobcat
worn umbra
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or maybe new players get a temporarily exp multiplier until level 30-50 or something
just to make them have a sense of fast progression

pseudo bobcat
timid stag
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anyway yall should add some stars to my suggestion 😼 its the one below this

pseudo bobcat
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care to explain

valid turret
summer sedge
valid turret
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😭

worn umbra
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without challenges

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it's gonna be a PAIN

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in the ass to evolve units

timid stag
pseudo bobcat
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yet

summer sedge
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Ik a lvl 36 who has Monarch kaguya and saber

pseudo bobcat
valid turret
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my alt acc is like lvl 30 with 3 monarchs

summer sedge
timid stag
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took me till lvl 80 to get my first monarch 💔

summer sedge
pseudo bobcat
summer sedge
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Just not traits

timid stag
pseudo bobcat
timid stag
summer sedge
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Cid act 2 could be depending on the units tbh
Ex 100% no

valid turret
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i only made this cause literally every day in gen, i see people asking for help with story or legend stage

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😭

pseudo bobcat
timid stag
timid stag
timid stag
pseudo bobcat
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what is YOUR point

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im agreeing with you

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tf

worn umbra
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yeah no they kinda are

timid stag
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i got sidetracked ngl 😭

worn umbra
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🥀

timid stag
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js starting argueing to argue

worn umbra
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real

timid stag
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thats my bad brochacho

worn umbra
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40m till my next suggestion where either another warzone is gonna start or people are gonna agree with me a_sip

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alr im goin back to gen cya

summer sedge
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Well devs will see this, the one who normally reads em is asleep rn ill throw some of the thoughts to that dev too

valid turret
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doesnt even have to be a unit change

summer sedge
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Just doesn't respond

valid turret
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just something to help them, like i swear 24/7 people are in gen chat asking for help with stories/legend stages or challenges

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its insane

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i also think since they wanna add a mascot unit this could work ¯_(ツ)_/¯

night nest
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Valid, without help, for the average new player the game is too hard or annoying, i think its better for the game's sake to make the early game less annoying and make it worth the effort

gray flicker
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Though the solution of just having another quest that gives out archer or lancer seems more reasonable

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Cant really make the quest unit smth that needs ls drops

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Actually you could, considering synthesis maybe

valid turret
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yeah i thing making a 2nd quest would be more ideal

slim vessel
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like 4 units you can select and guranteeded get one

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and just throw in some old meta/good units in there

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something like WuWa, it was the first gacha that came to my head so

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i have friends who personally dont wanna leech, who cant afk farm gems and are struggling to just do the story since all they have rn is just vegeta
gem farming is hell already if ur a new player, and alot of ppl just wanna start playing the game rather then wasting time afking, setting their progression back

steady dragon
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Its good as is, vegeta can carry the majority of story on normal mode

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If you dont have more units by the time you reach parts where you NEED other units, then you gotta take a step back and grind for a bit instead of progressing

pseudo bobcat
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20-30 rrs a week was the maximum you could earn

steady dragon
pseudo bobcat
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and you can say that the content wasnt as hard but people can just go that same route to progression

steady dragon
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I like that they’re making the game easier to get into, dont get me wrong

But there’s such a thing as TOO easy