Host an actual VOTE after an update to determine the rating

[nimble trail]

Do I need to even explain why having people in the stage rate the update is a bad idea?

1. Asking this in stage is not accurate, as its only a small fraction of the community AND it isnt even a real vote in the sense where these numbers are being tracked
2. This fraction of the community is more likely to be biased as many of them are likely ACTIVELY going out of there way to tune into the stage
3. Due to the response of every person not being recorded, you're only looking at the mode, not the mean

Basically you're only asking the glazers, host a real vote / poll, and I can guarantee results may be slightly different

[sinful crane]

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[peak knoll]

ong

another thing thats acc dumb in the stage they said they wont be doing any polls to find out what the community wants the upd to be

which is crazy since u can def do a poll gauging the interest for something without saying the upd is cmg

ITS STILL SURPRISE

[nimble trail]

dawg these devs...

[peak knoll]

they acc did one for lord of the mysteries right after

[nimble trail]

they're lowkey giving me nothing but good reasons to determine that als is overall better

[peak knoll]

so ig they just do polls for wtv they want

[peak knoll]

ye als has so much worse quality in general
its just qol is so much better

[nimble trail]

AV: Cosmetics, vfx, quality
ALS: Better devs, respect the players time, qol, near endless content, devs actually let the players vote for things

[peak knoll]

ong

[nimble trail]

like, genuinely, if you aren't trying to see pretty effects, als clears by almost every stat

like both av and als are good games, im not trying to say av is bad

[peak knoll]

if this game just considered how long each gamemode takes and gave more rewards im sure they could be much better

[nimble trail]

absolutely

[peak knoll]

exactly

[nimble trail]

lowkey, the devs just gotta stop fueling their own ego with the bias "votes" in stages

cuz aint nobody thought this was an 8/10

least nobody reasonable

update was a solid 6/10, cool units, but thats it

[dim whale]

Eh its probably 7

[nimble trail]

No, not really

like, it gave us another winter portal grind

thats all

[dim whale]

Yeah thats considered the norm in this genre

[nimble trail]

but like

at least some previous updates tried to innovate and be creative

this was just the typical spray on krabby patty shit

[dim whale]

No i get what youre saying but thag doesnt really matter this is the roblox atd meta

[nimble trail]

just because its the norm doesnt make it any better*

[dim whale]

Thats just kind how it is when most of your playerbase is 13 year olds

It does

[nimble trail]

regardless, devs gotta stop trying to fuel their own egos with fake results

[dim whale]

If we go by that logic then there has never been a 9/10 upd in the history of this genre

[dim whale]

Yeah fs

6.0 was NOT 6/10 or whatever they put it as

[nimble trail]

I mean, yeah, but like, nobody was trying to argue that it was

[nimble trail]

6.0 was a solid 3/10

gear boy is cool, byken is cool, rest of upd sucked

[dim whale]

2/10

Ive never even seen what gear boy does

Only units i cared about were sol and byeken.

[peak knoll]

lfelt was rly nice on release

[nimble trail]

nah 3/10

just because starting from that point, tourneys no longer reward units, but skins

[peak knoll]

then they nerfed her

[dim whale]

Cant be bothered to use an autoclicker for a unit to do dps

[dim whale]

Yeah very good change

[nimble trail]

yeah well now she's kinda shit

[dim whale]

No

[peak knoll]

nah she was acc fun when she dropped

[dim whale]

95k dps isnt shit

[peak knoll]

im talking abt the ability nerf

[nimble trail]

explain why nobody uses her then?

[dim whale]

If you think 270k dps shouldve stayed i got nothing to tell you

[nimble trail]

if she's so fucking good, I should be seeing people use her

[dim whale]

People to this day dont agree with yhwach being top 3 lol "nobody uses her" isnt a real argument is it.

[nimble trail]

also where are you even getting this from?

[nimble trail]

thats because he isnt top 3

[dim whale]

Variety of sources that i verified myself

[dim whale]

Is this ragebait

[dim whale]

Including monsoon, whos the person who makes official tl alongside goatkuna

[nimble trail]

who tf are either of these people

[dim whale]

Granted the tl kinda sucks but his dps calcs are valid

Goatkuna is head tester

He makes tl

The wiki one

[nimble trail]

oh

I refuse to look at wiki tierlists

I dont trust them

[dim whale]

I dont either but the dps calcs are accurate

Anyway idk whats up with "he isnt top 3"

Hes top 1

[nimble trail]

literally only if your whole team chooses trash units to make one unit good

[dim whale]

No 💀

1. Hes the highest full aoe dps with immunity to ailments and an auto cleanse regardless of team comp

2. What other unit does 200k dps in a full aoe covering the whole map 💀

See exactly what i mean, people half the time just dont know how good a unit is lol

Wiki tl isnt great but its way better than 99% of takes i hear

[muted prism]

The community or the developers can manipulate the poll

[nimble trail]

1. Why worry about what they CAN do
2. See the positives, if they do this, someone is bound to expose them, and then we all have a valid reason to hate psyeph further

[chilly plinth]

Double that damage if the first and last enemy is different

And his SPA is wrong since im using sokora in that screenshot making his SPA 5 sec

[dim whale]

What team comp is this again

[buoyant falcon]

me neither

[dim whale]

Good birb (good, not godroll), sakura, blitz joe, gissele, farm and a 6 placenent hit that

[chilly plinth]

Yehowach
Sokora(Blitz for lower SPA)
Blitz joe(Lowest SPA in the game)
John(6 placement)
double farm

[nimble trail]

lowkey, this could be lowered further, pretty sure genos has the lowest spa in the game

[dim whale]

Why we running double farm with yhwach anyway

[nimble trail]

oh, nvm then

[chilly plinth]

Nope

[nimble trail]

ignore what I previously said

[nimble trail]

wouldnt it be even better to remove takaroda and replace with another 5-6 placement? considering you're going to just have one unit, likely using monarch, I doubt you need THAT much money to make the strat work

[dim whale]

It would

Yhwach is 70k to max

[chilly plinth]

Yes

But you would replace it with a VSJW/other dps that isnt full aoe

[dim whale]

Anyway usually you can just run yhwach with 3 sprint and like any support and you get the highest full aoe dps in the game in itself

[chilly plinth]

otherwise you'd die to one resilient

[dim whale]

Yeah the tourney strats etc keep changing

Vsjw bear spam + yhwach sokora are the 2 most powerful things in the game tho

Probably

[nimble trail]

lowkey, i gotta be the only one who feels this way

but I fucking hate tournaments with the way they are

[dim whale]

I find them okay

Good rewards

[nimble trail]

like it looks like half of them switch between the same two strategies

[peak knoll]

only fine when i win lol

[dim whale]

For traits they do

[peak knoll]

otherwise there a mess

[dim whale]

Traitless, not really

[nimble trail]

fuck id hope so

like at least there is a fragment of skill required for those

[dim whale]

There will always be similarity in strats, cid will always be used for kills/damage since duh

But theres variety in traitless

Traits are kinda just yhwach abuse

[nimble trail]

never gonna forget the fact that psyeph told someone they had brain cancer for saying that the game requires no skill when they were RIGHT

[peak knoll]

...

bruh

nah traitless worldlines is rly fun

and tournys

[nimble trail]

dude tourneys are rarely fun

even traitless, it requires skill, but its not fun

[peak knoll]

i enjoy it sometimes

[polar slate]

This update could be worth an 8 if they did rimuru right yea he good but that’s not rimuru am sorry

[peak knoll]

depends which variation

[nimble trail]

No, it would've been a 7/10 still
this update was not great, it was mid

[wet sapphire]

you mean 0/10
they did merlin dirty

[polar slate]

Eh 7.5 since they actually made an actually “vanguard” unit

[peak knoll]

ong

higher ur standards

[polar slate]

😭

[peak knoll]

they can do so much better

[wet sapphire]

5/10

[polar slate]

They only do good when their competitors

[peak knoll]

ye so clearly they CAN do better than this

[polar slate]

So far Als taking the lead cuz they add hype characters and the weekly updates

I saw sum shit in those logs abt surprise are needed or sum non sense

Leme find it

[wet sapphire]

why people like it upd
is just a semi worse winter upd

[polar slate]

Am fucking 18 bro not 12

Like tf

[dim whale]

And its also probably more botted than av

[polar slate]

Surprise is key yet they added GG with dogshit characters u see even if u didn’t show it most ppl saw the blue gun guy like myself

[dim whale]

But yeah 6.0 did huge damage to this game

Congrats to the 3 people who play pvp ig

[nimble trail]

yeah aint nobody playing that

did my byken quest and dipped

[polar slate]

✋

[nimble trail]

its not even a fun gamemode

[polar slate]

To me it is

[eternal pasture]

What’s the point of betting in Als

[peak knoll]

just talked abit this above

so dumb

idk what they think this is

[polar slate]

Deadass

[peak knoll]

and they say this but also full on say what the upd is in the stage

WHERES THE SURPRISE

[polar slate]

Pack it up

Literally the player base would increase insanely but allowing us to choose

Like

I honestly don’t understand how we are this stupid and naive

[chilly plinth]

Dont get me wrong the gamemode is fun

If it wasnt broken 99% of the time

And it gave ACTUAL rewards instead of 5 coins per win

[polar slate]

If u want to give us surprises give us actually good anime’s not that 20 FPS GG shit

Yea PvP is rlly well made I love it

Wish ppl would use their brains more

But it’s wtv

[chilly plinth]

Its to surprise the other 70% of the player base that are 12

[nimble trail]

I will hear no insult on guilty gear

Shit’s cool asf

[chilly plinth]

and dont listen/read the document about the stage

[nimble trail]

They just did it bad

[polar slate]

Gang I saw that anime

What the fuck was that

[peak knoll]

too many bugs and not enough game mode

[polar slate]

Do we even call that an anime?

[nimble trail]

You would know its not an anime if you actually looked into it

Its a fucking game series

[peak knoll]

shouldve added duos squads and shorter gamemodes like blitz before ranked

[nimble trail]

Absolute fucking mongrel

[polar slate]

The devs said it themselves that it is an anime too

Ik it’s an anime

[nimble trail]

It HAS an anime

[polar slate]

I be seeing it on twitter

[nimble trail]

That doesnt mean the series IS an anime

Its mostly a videogame series

[polar slate]

And the anime is dogshit that’s what I have been saying

[nimble trail]

And yet you let one bad piece of media tarnish an entire goated series

[polar slate]

Yea co op would go crazy

[nimble trail]

ginyu has seen better days

[polar slate]

Yk no one knew that shit?

Like the anime

Until they said so

[nimble trail]

perfect example of children vs men

[polar slate]

Tf are you saying rn

[nimble trail]

if you dont know wtf guilty gear is in the anime community, then atp you're lowkey just like, 12

[polar slate]

Yea nvm u got it
Not finna hurt my head today

[dim whale]

You can bm accounts

[dim whale]

Nobody in this community knew it

Thats just a fact

Biggest reason the upd flopped

[nimble trail]

figures

[dim whale]

Call it whatever you will

I dont play fighting games

[peak knoll]

obv not brotato

for some ppl it just doesnt look interesting

[nimble trail]

im waiting on buying the newest one till it goes on sale

[polar slate]

Like I said before gg over persona IS CRAZY

[nimble trail]

persona would be cool

but both are equally cool

[muted prism]

Garbage take

[peak knoll]

again persona is cool but like a .5

[dim whale]

Gg over anything is crazy for a .0 update

[peak knoll]

not a full upd

[muted prism]

Could say the same for the Anime in general

[dim whale]

We got a fucking gg .0 update before 2 of the big 3

[nimble trail]

one piece isn't coming because of copyright
and I pray naruto doesnt come so loto can keep suffering

[polar slate]

I would mostly see twitter even on TikTok is a girl arching her back on a key.

[peak knoll]

if als can do it why cant they

[abstract carbon]

bump fs

[dim whale]

It already arrived plus at this point its all but confirmed, its gonna happen eventually.

[nimble trail]

als doesnt have a care in the world

[dim whale]

"We're saving madara for a real naruto upd" is the entire justification for kaguya

[peak knoll]

cares dont matter brosquito

DMCA does

[polar slate]

They can remake their models but that would take a lot of time

[dim whale]

Well als just does shit

[abstract carbon]

yes i dont get this

[dim whale]

Theyre not afraid, they also just have jjk too

[abstract carbon]

how did they not get copyrighted

[nimble trail]

I just gonna pray it doesnt happen for as long as possible
Loto can keep suffering after wasting like 10 minutes of my time in a stage yapping about naruto

[dim whale]

Not yet

[peak knoll]

ya and it doesnt become an issue

[dim whale]

You wasted an hour by being on stage yourself

[polar slate]

Honestly hate hearing that dumbass

[abstract carbon]

they've been adding dmca shit since the start of the universe

wdym

[dim whale]

Ong gang

[nimble trail]

I dont even think youtubers should be on the stage, and thats coming from someone who works on a small youtube channel

like its that simple

[dim whale]

His point about "why punish manual grinding just because youre bummed about ahk" was valid tho

[nimble trail]

do not give us special treatment

[dim whale]

Way too big of a risk to invite randoms

[abstract carbon]

well, youtubers who can talk in a stage should be

like actual ones who can argue

[polar slate]

Only one I think that should say is AB plays cuz he actually reads through these suggestions makes vids on it and talk abt them to the devs

[nimble trail]

simple

dont invite anyone

[eternal pasture]

Pyseph just has a vendetta against nonfarmol

[abstract carbon]

and not just asking questions

imo tho

but yeah

[dim whale]

Then whats the point of a stage, just make a sub announcement at that point lol

[dim whale]

Mhm

[glacial patio]

i mean it was a good update no?

[polar slate]

That’s also true but ppl like us with actually brains should be able to talk

[dim whale]

I think its a 7/10 yea

[polar slate]

Don’t just add anyone and everyone

[dim whale]

Its better than 5.5 and 6.0 atleast

[abstract carbon]

doesnt matter votes should still be there

[nimble trail]

see, the thing is, eventually they're gonna have to quit punishing the entire playerbase, they cant keep doing this, m@cr0 creators on the other hand will, they're only going to get better and become more versatile for grinding while the game in general gets worse to grind

[glacial patio]

yeah

[abstract carbon]

so devs know feedback more precisely

[glacial patio]

the characters are more interesting

[polar slate]

If this unit wasn’t an unique vanguards unit this shit would be a 5

[dim whale]

Anyone whos not got anything to lose could do batshit insane stuff on stage is the thing

[glacial patio]

i dont really care about the vanguard unit im never getting kaguya

[sacred vault]

Oh the m word is blacklisted i forgor

[dim whale]

[abstract carbon]

arc is the only interesting unit aswell as conquest

[dim whale]

You dont have bypass?

Breh

[polar slate]

[abstract carbon]

kaguya too ofc

[nimble trail]

I accept that I will not get kaguya, hence why im grinding for shiny rimuru instead

[dim whale]

How do testers got more perms than valk

[polar slate]

Nah u gonna get it just get to 1million

[sacred vault]

Because the unfortunate reality we live in exists with one where m words are extremely dominant in the meta game. And in an attempt at fairness we have to make AFK chamber ALMOST as good as manually playing because not everyone wants to use a 3rd party program to be able to compete. So while I would LOVE to do cool shit, I simply cannot because I have to consider the playerbase as a whole and not just the people with equal access to such tools.

[glacial patio]

i dont grind av

i dont find kaguya interesting enough to grind for

[dim whale]

How much does afk chamber make per hour again

[marble sand]

replace jonathan with giselle

[nimble trail]

550 per 4 minutes, if you have premium n vip

[sacred vault]

Not to mention, making MVP affect flowers LITERALLY creates an anime defenders situation where people will make HELLA alts to just m word with.

[nimble trail]

about 8.25k

[abstract carbon]

make afk rewards need a level requirement, too many bots

[polar slate]

That’s insane to say when she is the only actually “vanguards” unit with actually uniqueness

[dim whale]

Ahk magnos make like 27k an hour without chests i think thats already significantly more than portals. So portals isnt even a good example of this.

But ig it makes sense overall yeau

[chilly plinth]

Dont have him
Was too boring to grind especially after winter portals

[glacial patio]

well i dont find her that interesting i think hibana is way more interesting so ill prob shiny hunt her

[sacred vault]

This defeats the purpose of seasonal events being a good way for new players to get into the game. I don't know a good solution for this atm.

[marble sand]

eh its ok i use jonathan myself considering i have monarch giselle

[polar slate]

Understood

[abstract carbon]

what about bots

[vapid eagle]

They ban bots

[eternal pasture]

Who cares about bots💔

[wet sapphire]

you do

[nimble trail]

Seasonal events were NEVER a good way for players to get into the game, especially considering later tier portals are purely end game content

[vapid eagle]

Everyone

[sacred vault]

Would you rather make the game less new player friendly, or make bots lives slightly inconvienced?

[dim whale]

Well I don't think afk chamber bots are getting banned since I don't think they need to script or anything

[vapid eagle]

Thats why they ban them

[abstract carbon]

trading lmao

[dim whale]

You could just have 50 instances of rdp running

I dont see a way to detect that

[eternal pasture]

Trading isn’t coming anytime soon

[abstract carbon]

value goes down for actual lucky vanguard owners

it is coming

[eternal pasture]

Next year

[marble sand]

trading

[abstract carbon]

IT IS COMING thats the point

[dim whale]

24.0 🔥 🔥

[abstract carbon]

either now or later

bots still exist

[marble sand]

i havent heard trading in years...

[sacred vault]

Not nearly as important as the new player experience.

[abstract carbon]

making values go down

[abstract carbon]

yep i know

[eternal pasture]

No units have values atp except wl units

[abstract carbon]

but a like 5 level requirement could be ok

[dim whale]

And some lb units

[abstract carbon]

i dont know

[dim whale]

Most lb units are hella duped tho

[abstract carbon]

still makes it so that bots need to level up

[eternal pasture]

Weren’t there like a bunch of duped lb units

[vapid eagle]

Ddd units🙏. I believe in them

5k players

[sacred vault]

The bots would literally just level their accounts up to match. I've seen lvl 80 bots.

[dim whale]

Yeah i think scissor 7 and 1 more are fine though

[vapid eagle]

Peak Times back then to invest

[sacred vault]

I recognize its an issue, black market bad obviously. I just don't know a good fix atm that doesn't alienate the target demographic.

[abstract carbon]

oh i didnt know, i thought it could reduce amounts of bots in someway, if it does then it should be implemented at level 5, level 5 is easy as hell for manual new players to get to

[peak knoll]

just deleted my okarun lol

[wet sapphire]

5 value normal
300 value shiny

[dim whale]

Bots could just magno for a week and bypass even a level 100 req tbh

Not much you can do to fix that

[vapid eagle]

Lol

[wet sapphire]

🥀

[peak knoll]

we still got pweeny

dk why they added this guy

[wet sapphire]

i never got okarun
i only got that stupid fish mf

[nimble trail]

crab*

[marble sand]

i unshinyed my rengoku and okarun

[nimble trail]

dont put disrespect on him

[marble sand]

🤣 🤞

[nimble trail]

he's chill

[wet sapphire]

same shit
you cook them and eat them

[vapid eagle]

Gonna try to collect every last shiny seiko to make a Monopol of shiny saikos🙏

[nimble trail]

yeah but he's cool asf

boxer crab

[peak knoll]

thrres prolly like 3

[vapid eagle]

Pweeny?

[river trellis]

It's hard to really make things fully "bot/m-word" proof, because people WILL always find ways to get around it, no matter how much

[wet sapphire]

mfs are lucky

[abstract carbon]

or maybe implement a captcha for afk, it would reduce the amount for some time until they find a way to bypass it

[river trellis]

"People find the most efficient ways to be lazy"

[peak knoll]

no pls dont

[wet sapphire]

i got shiny medae on kazzy banner

[sacred vault]

Doesn't this ruin the whole purpose of AFK

[river trellis]

That's an awful idea

[marble sand]

remember what happened when AD and AA added captchas

[dim whale]

Bro

[marble sand]

yea

[abstract carbon]

you have to get into afk one time

with the password

[wet sapphire]

aa did the same and guess what
they fucking bypass it in 1 hour

[abstract carbon]

not every time you reconnect

[abstract carbon]

shi i didnt know

[marble sand]

wasnt even an hour it was like 5min into the upd releasing

😭

[dim whale]

It took magnos 5 hours to update and fully bypass aa captchas

[abstract carbon]

i guess bots are op lol

[dim whale]

Nvm 5 minutes

🔥

[wet sapphire]

auto ban people with bacon hair or stupid names

bots use that

[eternal pasture]

[dim whale]

Cant stop ahk

[marble sand]

all they AHKS had to do was just capture the image of 1 captcha

and just implement it like that

[abstract carbon]

lmao

[arctic veldt]

NO

[wet sapphire]

your name is cool

[river trellis]

The best you can do is take measures to bridge the gap, there's no real way to effectively stop things one way or another

[wet sapphire]

no sane player have shrfbeey as their username

[dim whale]

The gap isnt even bridged really ahk still makes like 5x as much as afk chamber lol

[eternal pasture]

Thanks man

[dim whale]

Ahk makes like 27k just from portals in an hour

[vapid eagle]

Ban every Person that doesnt have 1 vanguard in his inv

[dim whale]

Without considering chests even

[abstract carbon]

that doesn't have 1 mythic lol

[vapid eagle]

It was a joke🐢

U need to get vsjw

[abstract carbon]

mine too bro

[dim whale]

Wraps

[sacred vault]

now imagine if it had mvp

[abstract carbon]

i hate you

[wet sapphire]

mf i got 5 ethereals in 100 rerolls

[vapid eagle]

Why Do u have 67 units

[dim whale]

It kinda does with chests already but yeah currency mvp would be stupid ash

[wet sapphire]

[abstract carbon]

i did the mistake of not getting shiny sjw before vanguard

[eternal pasture]

I couldn’t get 1 in 300

[dim whale]

1 kaguya a day

[abstract carbon]

because impatient

[vapid eagle]

Damn i wanted to send this in media mb

[sacred vault]

Like I said, I'm not stupid. I know you can never actually close the gap. Its why I said with an attempt

[dim whale]

Shiny vsjw mid asf anyway

[abstract carbon]

what if it changes lol

[eternal pasture]

It’s just him with a suit

[abstract carbon]

its a flex anyways

[eternal pasture]

Most of the shinys suck in this game

[wet sapphire]

is nit

[eternal pasture]

Just a free 5 rrs

[wet sapphire]

not

[abstract carbon]

i got a suggestion in mind for shiny vanguards

[wet sapphire]

is worse than non shiny vsjw

[abstract carbon]

kinda

[abstract carbon]

like imagine vsjw in shadow armor

as shiny

[dim whale]

I like the regular fit more than the suit me personally

[wet sapphire]

x2

[arctic veldt]

shiny unit border > no shiny unit border

[wet sapphire]

i thought it was that

but i got scammed with a ugly ass suit

[abstract carbon]

shiny Vanguards are the most underwhelming thing in the game

[dim whale]

5 rrs > shiny border

5 rrs, 5 monarchs

Lock in broski

[abstract carbon]

like no reward for those lucky ppl

[sacred vault]

Next one wont be

You have my word on that

[wet sapphire]

next one

[sacred vault]

[wet sapphire]

🥀

[dim whale]

Leak the unit right neow

[abstract carbon]

will they ever get reworked tho lol

[wet sapphire]

Justice for shiny vsjw

[sacred vault]

Freddy Fazbear.

[eternal pasture]

Another evo for sjw

[dim whale]

Based.

[wet sapphire]

end of manwha sjw

[dim whale]

Not rolling on anything from 7.0 saving for freddy vanguard fr

[abstract carbon]

add him for real

[sacred vault]

We can barely make 3 week updates as is, and so many people want us to spend time to go rework old stuff. If we spend time doing that what are we dropping with the update.

[abstract carbon]

well when yall dont have something in mind just make a rework upd

[sacred vault]

AV updates take forever bc the amount of quality and effort we put into our stuff.

[abstract carbon]

i guess

[wet sapphire]

merlin:

she is obviously rushed

[sacred vault]

She wasn't.

[dim whale]

Yeah idk why her ability is one time use lmfao

Maybe its the pvp aspect

[sacred vault]

Because its a pvp match ender.

[wet sapphire]

pvp

🥀

[dim whale]

Yeah thing is i dont see most people really care about that

[abstract carbon]

uhh some units are underwhelming not gonna lie, its like 1-3 unitz in an update are very cool while the others are just simple as hell

i dont know

[dim whale]

Whatever i just hope we get a real luce replacement soon

[vapid eagle]

Alr gang i found the hidden message

[dim whale]

I have luce but jeez playing without her seems miserable

[vapid eagle]

Next vanguard

[peak knoll]

since u said on stage u dont want to make big mechanic changes to modes (or some thing along the lines of this)would u consider increasing the rewards u get from some modes that ppl barely play as a bandaid fix

[arctic veldt]

HN 💔

[sacred vault]

Like what?

[dim whale]

Cough cough odyseey

[vapid eagle]

Lmao

[eternal pasture]

Old raids

[dim whale]

But he answered that already

So

[sacred vault]

I already explained this one.

[peak knoll]

odyssey pvp

[eternal pasture]

They’re currency drop sucks

[wet sapphire]

she never did that last attack she have
why her nullify is 1 time use, make the buff thing one time use but her nulify should be able to be used more times
why nature

[eternal pasture]

I still haven’t gotten the rrs from it

[peak knoll]

wasnt currency supposed to increase with rank also

[eternal pasture]

It’s bugged

[abstract carbon]

i dont have a problem with odyssey other than it taking too much time and rewarding little

[peak knoll]

exactly

[abstract carbon]

otherwise its a cool gamemode

like very cool

yk

[sacred vault]

Its endless whirl, its literally her main attack in the early season of 7ds and her ult in 7ds gc.

[marble sand]

new players be suffering from what ive seen tbh

[dim whale]

Ong

Medea is NOT an alternative

[vapid eagle]

Gurt are you by any chance adding a star wars character later on

[sacred vault]

nah lmao

[abstract carbon]

pity counter when lol

[river trellis]

dont listen to him

[dim whale]

Darth vader vanguard

[wet sapphire]

we are killing the game with it one

[dim whale]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[river trellis]

we're getting ACD darth vader

[dim whale]

I think star wars is pretty mainstream, may not be the best for this game but cant be worse than gg

[vapid eagle]

I can feel it in the force

[dim whale]

Surelt everyone knows vader

[peak knoll]

luke and vader bp

[eternal pasture]

I don’t

[wet sapphire]

remember what happened with peashooter

[abstract carbon]

yes exactly non anime characters are getting added as bp units soo

[sacred vault]

Idk how ppl feel on AoT since its a lot like naruto where people either LOVE it or HATE it zero in between. But 7.5 and beyond until anni are pure universal hype that I know people will love.

[abstract carbon]

i dont get why vader couldnt be there lol

[wet sapphire]

but now imagine it but 100000x worse

[peak knoll]

always sad thinking abt what couldve been

[vapid eagle]

What about darth maul or darth plagueis

[dim whale]

Most of the hate is ragebait

[abstract carbon]

i love it

[dim whale]

Though aot in these games hasnt been super consistent

[vapid eagle]

Oh

[eternal pasture]

Aot in astd was cool

[sacred vault]

I know from my IRLs that it is in fact not ragebait. They genuinely hate AoT

[wet sapphire]

no game did levi right
please end that curse

[marble sand]

AOT for me is pretty uninsteresting, but Im not gonna hate till i see it first

[eternal pasture]

The rumbling was sick

[marble sand]

i just didnt enjoy the show

[dim whale]

I can see it working so long as the units are cool and not "2m damage with 60 second spa"

[eternal pasture]

In aa it was kinda cool

[vapid eagle]

Did your irl friends at least read aot and understood the meaning. Cuz most of the time ppl are overhating aot

[abstract carbon]

btw i dont know if i misunderstood but didnt yall say something about rumbling being added this upd

[vapid eagle]

You just need to make Armin the strongest unit in the game

[wet sapphire]

levi better be part of the upd and not a random ass soldier that died in 1 second

[dim whale]

No it was not gang that armin unit was genuinely the most stupid thing ive ever seen

Eren was also just griffith food

[eternal pasture]

I’m talking about the raid

[vapid eagle]

Wait where did they mention that

[eternal pasture]

Eren was meta for inf lb

[sacred vault]

AoT was easily the most challenging update for me in terms of unit design, because on a visual level characters are INSANELY similar. So I had to get like super creative with a lot of the units.

[peak knoll]

floch

[marble sand]

most the time in AOT the units either like a Bleed low SPA unit or a Big ass nuke with a long cd

[eternal pasture]

And armin is a cool concept

[wet sapphire]

armin ahh moment

[dim whale]

Is yhwach getting powercrept this upd 😈 😈

[vapid eagle]

Cant wait for an active ability to be called potato

[peak knoll]

hey atleast theres gna be colossal nuke right guys...

[wet sapphire]

SASHA

PLEASE

[marble sand]

pretty sure hange in AA was also just a starter bleed unit

[peak knoll]

fire support unit

[dim whale]

400k full aoe dps with bleed 🔥 🔥

[vapid eagle]

Sasha is an icon

[sacred vault]

Prolly not lmao, he prolly wont be for a very long time. Except maybe by the next vanguard. Next vanguard has a VERY funny gimmick. I don't think its very good, but its very very cool.

[wet sapphire]

Sasha is only going to be a familiar

[eternal pasture]

Hange was op

You could solo most of the game with her

[dim whale]

Lol alright im excited

[half forum]

gurt what if we host a talent show

[marble sand]

hopefully its gimmicky as in gimmick fun and not like gimmick complex

[wet sapphire]

she was busted as hell
more than the tier 50 unit
she could be used as both early defense and late defense

[dim whale]

I hope its not a 7.5 vanguard though

[marble sand]

i trus tu valk 💔

[dim whale]

8.0 surely..

[sacred vault]

Its is most definitely not complext.

[marble sand]

yea she was busted but so boring

but tbf

that was like every unit in AA

so i cant discredit her too much

[vapid eagle]

Next vanguard about to be able to copy others passives and actives on a 29 sec cd🐢

[dim whale]

Make kaguya be able to cycle 2 domains lemme get that 90% buff on auto

[abstract carbon]

but some sort of little complexity gotta be there right

its what i love about av

[half forum]

stage notes when🥀

[abstract carbon]

like honestly

[sacred vault]

See thats really good, I said I don't think its good.

[eternal pasture]

You have to click their ability every nanosecond or she does 0 dps

[abstract carbon]

ion like raw dps

[vapid eagle]

Same. I dont even want to imagine how many Bugs would occur

[abstract carbon]

rankings

[wet sapphire]

eren better be rawr dps

[vapid eagle]

Lmaoooo

[marble sand]

Backrooms update in AV

whos with me 🤞

[wet sapphire]

persona 2 upd when

5 is overrated

[sacred vault]

After Kaguya I'm actually dialing back on complexity. I know I CAN push it further since we did kaguya. But I really shouldn't. Peoples brains are already frying.

[marble sand]

persona 3 but make sure to not add that fraud makoto

🤞

[eternal pasture]

No one has played persona 1 or 2

[dim whale]

What

[wet sapphire]

i don't exist

😭

[dim whale]

People think kaguya is hard to use?

[marble sand]

most ppl brains were already fried when buu was added

[dim whale]

[eternal pasture]

Buu was easy to use

[vapid eagle]

[sacred vault]

You over estimate the average player. I literally designed kaguya to be as streamlined and auto friendly as possible.

[wet sapphire]

is impossible to close his passive tab on mobile

[marble sand]

i saw so many people just not understand buu

[wet sapphire]

buu is a crime

[marble sand]

that still isnt fixed?

🥀

[eternal pasture]

The only complex unit I can probably see is left

[peak knoll]

its a roblox game the community isnt smart

[wet sapphire]

no

[abstract carbon]

fair ig, but ykwim right, not too complex just little to medium complexity

[eternal pasture]

Because you have to minmax her to reach the peak

[half forum]

i just read the stage notes how come they said they were gonna do aot since it would be a challenge and it would be hard but they can’t do guaren laurgan wtv it’s called because “it’s too hard”

[wet sapphire]

are you for real

[sacred vault]

I love using her for that, animation cancels and proper rotations just scratch that itch in my brain.

[abstract carbon]

yea lol i dont get it

[half forum]

brings me to tears

[dim whale]

Yeah shes just easy af to use besides the 90% buffs i dont think you can auto that

[half forum]

yes

[marble sand]

honestly if we can get another game series update, touhou would be pretty peak to add

[half forum]

go check stage notes

[marble sand]

alot of uniqueness with the franchise

[eternal pasture]

Yea I’m trying to get monarch on her

[vapid eagle]

Vanguards will only be from anime/Mangas or anime games, or?

[abstract carbon]

tou what

[eternal pasture]

What is gurren langum about

[marble sand]

or we can get fate part 3

[half forum]

i don’t even know atp

[marble sand]

[half forum]

idk but it’s a cool anime

[wet sapphire]

when solbadguy cosmetic
the rest have it 🙏🏼

[half forum]

drills and stuff

[eternal pasture]

I was finna watch it but people said starting it sucks to watch

[marble sand]

vanguards can be anything atp, Diavolo Requiem is one

bro aint even canon

[wet sapphire]

you pierce the heaven with your drill

[sacred vault]

We said no Guran Lagann for BP because of the amount of effort it would take to actually make such units. the Kazzy unit took 2 weeks to make alone, between her and her animations etc. Now imagine EVERY unit takes that amount of effort. Thats guran lagann.

[abstract carbon]

thats what troubles me, i just hope they do it based on hype and the respective final form of that character

[half forum]

oh shit

[half forum]

yes king

[peak knoll]

beleiving

[wet sapphire]

who the hell is that piss hair color miku

[dim whale]

Lfelt was lowkey funny as hell in hindsight, did you not think people would autoclick that during her conception? Which is a fair mistake to make tbf.

[half forum]

hey uh

what about

a talent show

[sacred vault]

No I thought they would, and I'm fine with it. Just she shipped with a lot of stuff not as it should be.

[eternal pasture]

What would the talent be

[marble sand]

only like really sweaty people would geuinuely optimize elphelt like that tbh

[half forum]

anything

[eternal pasture]

Placing down a unit

[half forum]

you have to turn your camera on tho

[marble sand]

ive only done it once cuz i was struggling on a WL floor

[eternal pasture]

No one would watch that

[half forum]

in stage

and perform

a talent

[wet sapphire]

singing the av lobby music

[dim whale]

The 260k dps incident

[vapid eagle]

Its evil miku

[half forum]

that could work idk what people would do

[dim whale]

Its really not that sweaty is the thing

[eternal pasture]

That sounds boring ash

[dim whale]

Autoclickers are easier to use than tinytask

[half forum]

nah but you gotta turn your camera on tho in stage

[sacred vault]

The DPS wasn't even my big issue, it was love shot. Instakilling a whole wave was HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[vapid eagle]

Cant wait for them to finally choose an av mascot and buy the plushie🐢

[eternal pasture]

What would turning your cam on do

People will just do weird shi

[half forum]

do a talent

[half forum]

ban

[abstract carbon]

could i know if you guys have a jjba update in mind soon or is it too much to ask? its something i gotta know man

[half forum]

root out the evil

[dim whale]

Both the things were pretty stupid but yeah love shot was uh

[marble sand]

ig, but still just feels boring to like

actually do

[dim whale]

Infinite waves here i come

[vapid eagle]

The plushie about to have blue and purple eyes

[half forum]

how did they decide on aot

[dim whale]

Trying to click every 6 seconds exactly or smth to get consistent dps is also pretty boring tho

[vapid eagle]

Well

[dim whale]

Mainstream as hell

[wet sapphire]

how unlucky im to not get the bear familiar after 15 stage 4 clears

[marble sand]

cant argue against that

[half forum]

oh really now

i mean

yk

it could’ve been black clover

but that’s js me tho

[sacred vault]

Well your gonna keep wondering

[wet sapphire]

black clover

asta vanguard

[abstract carbon]

bruhhh

[peak knoll]

wait for the anime announcement

[half forum]

julius vanguard

[peak knoll]

of the new season

[vapid eagle]

Clearly they gonna add jojo part 8 and give Sprint wagoon a skin called milagroman

[vapid eagle]

I think that Was the name of the money unit

[wet sapphire]

too much time
i wanna use asta
no game other than aa did asta great

[vapid eagle]

I mean

Money stand

[peak knoll]

hopefully theres infinity castle upd while the movies in theaters aswell

[abstract carbon]

if they dont buff my goat johnny and make a dio unit im crashing out

[eternal pasture]

Als did asta kinda good

[vapid eagle]

That almost drowned that guy with the ugly hair style

[vapid eagle]

They already

Added Diego brando

[abstract carbon]

dio bri

[wet sapphire]

he doesn't do the spin so no

[vapid eagle]

Well He is also called dio

[abstract carbon]

dont tell me they could make dio as a skin

bro

[eternal pasture]

I got him monarch

[abstract carbon]

if he is added as a skin

thats just disrespect

[wet sapphire]

jjba part 3 upd

[vapid eagle]

I still dont have a monarch

Playing straight since Release and never quit

[abstract carbon]

man they are capable of doing so

[vapid eagle]

Just to not have any monarchs. At least they added rimuru🐢

[river trellis]

guys i think the next farm unit we eventually add way down the road should generate money on SPA timer

[eternal pasture]

They have out like 200 free rrs during ddd

[river trellis]

[wet sapphire]

jotaro requiem when

[abstract carbon]

i quit in like devilmaycry bp update and came back 6.0

[eternal pasture]

And I got him monarch

[abstract carbon]

but release player here

[vapid eagle]

I took them

[marble sand]

erm, that sounds like an idea from my glorious glazed game awtd

[eternal pasture]

So like Denji in awtd

[wet sapphire]

so like denji on awtd

[river trellis]

LMAO

[abstract carbon]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[vapid eagle]

We didnt knew back then that there Was a pity

I rolled on every Single dd unit😭

Ddd*

[river trellis]

denji the goat fr

sorry, denis

[marble sand]

boxxo the goat*

🥱

[abstract carbon]

they added a fanfic diavolo why shouldnt they add jotaro requiem

[river trellis]

we are never doing an SPA farm though LOL

[wet sapphire]

nag nightmare

[marble sand]

nag couldnt spend 30min on april fools and got punished until the recent update

[wet sapphire]

speedwagon replacement when

im tired of him

[vapid eagle]

[abstract carbon]

fr

[wet sapphire]

he looks ugly

he lacks auea

[dim whale]

Good.

[vapid eagle]

Dont

[wet sapphire]

aura

[abstract carbon]

2 placement money

[vapid eagle]

Take my wives name

[wet sapphire]

every game have him as meta farm

[vapid eagle]

Out of your mouth

[abstract carbon]

with more complexity than than the most complex unit

lol

[vapid eagle]

I will never forget that one guy flexxing in rifts with his Monarch speedwagon

[abstract carbon]

aint even a flex mane just unlucky

[abstract carbon]

he prob got it from banner too

[wet sapphire]

i got monarch todo from banner when i was going for saber

[abstract carbon]

bruh

[dim whale]

Chopped ash

[abstract carbon]

whats the chance

[abstract carbon]

of getting a unit with a trait

[wet sapphire]

makima did nothing wrong
she was a victim

[eternal pasture]

[vapid eagle]

I am still 1000 percent sure that one of those devs is gonna add a steinsgate unit. I still remember that seeing that okabe npc on the release, convinced me to stay on av 🐢

[eager orbit]

Gurt this is not related to this suggestion post but why can't we just have a better new farm unit on the doc it says it may affect the economy in PvP but then a solution could be to lock that farm in PvP or having a farm unit cap in each team being 2 since many newer and older units are very expensive and as more updates drop im sure many new units will become even more expensive.

[vapid eagle]

Somehow she truly is

[wet sapphire]

i was happy when she used bang on power

[vapid eagle]

Nayuta proves what she could had been

[peak knoll]

and what would they do

maybe support

[vapid eagle]

She still a B for killing powder

[marble sand]

[vapid eagle]

I read back then on an awtd wiki sum comments. Lemme copy paste it (it May be shit)

[dim whale]

Aot upd finna be so fire

[abstract carbon]

yall didnt they mention the rumbling in stage

[dim whale]

They said everyone's been spoiled about it

[abstract carbon]

oh

[dim whale]

If you dont know about aot spoilers then youre just asking for em

[peak knoll]

they not wrong

[vapid eagle]

I wont lie

[peak knoll]

bruh

[vapid eagle]

Not even worth

Posting that

Its shit and outdated

[abstract carbon]

so they didnt say rumbling will be next upd

[vapid eagle]

Lemme flame that guy from 5 years ago

[abstract carbon]

damn

would be a cool dungeon

[vapid eagle]

They said aot upd

[abstract carbon]

yes i know

[vapid eagle]

There could be rumbling or not

Or there could be a Domain called the paths

[abstract carbon]

i mean they didnt confirm is what im saying

[vapid eagle]

The options are infinity

Nah

They usually never spoiler stuff like that

[abstract carbon]

i thought they said something about it for the game

[muted prism]

We had three manga updates out

I don't think they care about spoiling

No five manga

[abstract carbon]

eren spawning colossal titants as enemies and he works like a cid boss

lol

[vapid eagle]

Bro i mean

Spoiling in like

Telling us what we are getting in the upd

[abstract carbon]

ye

[muted prism]

Ah I see

[vapid eagle]

Not Manga spoilers

[muted prism]

Well rumbling is boring

Just another nuke

[vapid eagle]

Hoping

That they add zeke

And somehow add a robux bundle

With the older beast titan

The sheep

[muted prism]

ZEKE New uryu

Inf range

[vapid eagle]

Nah inf Spa

Trust

Bro will never hit

Or always hit

[abstract carbon]

rumbling eren as a unit?

actually nah

[vapid eagle]

Tbf i would rather say

[abstract carbon]

him as a boss like i said bro

[vapid eagle]

That you would need zeke and eren

To touch

[abstract carbon]

him

[vapid eagle]

Oh

Now i get what you mean

[abstract carbon]

as a unit i dont really want him

i mean in attack titan form sure

[wet sapphire]

aot boss rush

[abstract carbon]

but wouldnt know how he would work otherwise

yes

[dim whale]

We need a new boss rush

[abstract carbon]

we didnt get boss rush for alotta time

[muted prism]

Just let us control him

[dim whale]

Been like 5 months

[wet sapphire]

cid was right there

[muted prism]

Save rumbling for vanguard

[vapid eagle]

Nah they will never add a vanguard aot unit

[wet sapphire]

rumbling as a secret

from boss rush

[dim whale]

Yeah theres better stuff to do than aot vanguard

[vapid eagle]

If the upd is already aot

[abstract carbon]

nah i reflected on that idea and him in rumbling as a unit doesnt work

wouldnt attack

just summon

like

[vapid eagle]

I still wish they would give pweeny a skin from good boxing anime/Mangas

[abstract carbon]

attack titan form would be alot better

[wet sapphire]

eren
levi
mikasa
sasha

perfect aot upd

[abstract carbon]

but i dont get how he's not vanguard worthy

[vapid eagle]

I still remember that useless modifier

That crippled your range

For damage boost

[abstract carbon]

zeke instead of sasha

[vapid eagle]

The worst card of All time

But i still loved the ddd upd

[wet sapphire]

the hell is he going to do

run away from levi?

[abstract carbon]

something

lol

[wet sapphire]

use zeke as a levi attack animation

[abstract carbon]

wdym

[vapid eagle]

Maybe they adding Gabi and let you headshoot other ppls unit (killing the aizen Monarch in rift)

[abstract carbon]

OH WAIT
levi should be secret

100%

[wet sapphire]

like invincible and conquest

collateral damage

[abstract carbon]

nah

i honestly didnt like the conquest unit

dont know why

doesnt make sense

[vapid eagle]

Like damage wise?

[wet sapphire]

you didn't got shiny

[abstract carbon]

no

[wet sapphire]

that is why

[abstract carbon]

shiny too lol

[vapid eagle]

Cuz the unit itself is really goated. Like the Design and Animation

[abstract carbon]

the units attacking themselves just doesnt sit right w me

[wet sapphire]

i didn't got shiny

[abstract carbon]

idk

[vapid eagle]

I still dont got him but i watched a video

[abstract carbon]

imo nah

[vapid eagle]

Well conquest did abuse Mark in invincible

[abstract carbon]

yes i know

[wet sapphire]

i mean it makes sense

[vapid eagle]

Even tho He couldnt See him

[abstract carbon]

but ykwim

[abstract carbon]

yes in a way

[vapid eagle]

Oh ykwim mean you know what i mean

[abstract carbon]

them attacking eachother

[abstract carbon]

ye

[vapid eagle]

I thought you guys tried to write yhwach

[abstract carbon]

no lmao

[vapid eagle]

Lol

[abstract carbon]

yuhabaha

[vapid eagle]

Kubo is such a goated mangaka

Next to araki

And kishimoto

And

Wait

Is there a World where they would the monogatarie series

Tbf

Nah

I dont think so

[abstract carbon]

btw why didnt they make sjw end manga as vanguard isntead of his current form

[peak knoll]

ye araragi would be a nice worldlines

[abstract carbon]

like i mean

and they didnt add my boy tusk

hes so goated

he would be a busted summon

like he stays still like iron and just shoots fire in a straight way

in the path

but it cant do like angles

or curves

whatever

[vapid eagle]

They could always add more to characters but i Do think they gave him justice

[abstract carbon]

yes i know but

not choosing his final form

as vanguard

feels off

and igris attacking w him only instead of rotating with beru

like

they did my boy beru dirty too

dont get me wrong hes busted

but yeah

[muted prism]

Why tf would anybody ask for this?

They said they'll give sjw another Evo eventually

[abstract carbon]

dude what

whats his rarity gonna be called

sung jinwoo

lmao

[muted prism]

Another Evo?

[abstract carbon]

ye lol

[muted prism]

Doesn't need to have a new rarity

[vapid eagle]

Damn i just thought about it. If there ever rerun some bundles, wouldnt be the Red headline "limited offer" be a lie/scam.

[muted prism]

Third evo

[abstract carbon]

so basically he has that whole evo chain

he finishes with vanguard

[dim whale]

It would

[abstract carbon]

doesnt start with it

and he needs another evo

[dim whale]

In 2027 🔥 🔥

[abstract carbon]

wdym

[wet sapphire]

AV: Next generations

[abstract carbon]

just add some little things instead he doesnt need another evo bro

like

[wet sapphire]

he does

in fact, buff him

[vapid eagle]

Damn. Lets see what they Do, if i pull kaguya in the next days, then i wouldnt care. But if i dont, i will make a suggestion and scream "FORTNITE, I HAD IT OG"

[dim whale]

He doesnt need ANYTHING for the time being

The day vsjw gets powercrept, every single unit in the game has

I dont think thats anytime soon

[wet sapphire]

3 nukes and a bible passive

[dim whale]

Don’t buy the Renegade skin if you respect OG Fortnite players. It’s more than a skin; it’s a symbol of their early commitment and grind. Let them keep their exclusivity.

[abstract carbon]

3 more nukes*

lmao

[abstract carbon]

yes thats what i mean

but incase he eventually does

making him endmanga arc would be better

than just buffing him

[wet sapphire]

sjw,igris and tank next evolution

[abstract carbon]

adding tusk instead of healer

[dim whale]

We'll deal with that probably in like 2027

[abstract carbon]

ye lol

[dim whale]

Yeah delete healer

Useless ass bum

[abstract carbon]

yes hes nonsense

stayed for like 1 minute

while tusk for the whole manhwa

[wet sapphire]

healer hate is not allowed

[abstract carbon]

YES IT IS

[wet sapphire]

no bro

[abstract carbon]

PUT HEALER ON FIRE

[wet sapphire]

healer is cool

[dim whale]

No.

[abstract carbon]

(by tusk)

and why is igris used as his duo

[abstract carbon]

like is there a reason

my idea is better

[wet sapphire]

you right
replace igris with healer

[abstract carbon]

lol

igris till upgrade 4 -> beru till 8 -> bellion as last

whoever gets replaced becomes a summon

instead of attacking with sjw

bellion doesnt get replaced obv

[vapid eagle]

I wont lie anderson as a vanguard would also be lit. Having alucard in the gem Banner and him in the seasonal

[abstract carbon]

alucard 2nd evo