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#Vanguard System Rework, Duo Unit System
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abstract mango
If you find something dumb/wrong about this suggestion, point it out and explain why, I can't stand people who say it's dumb without explaining.
sage rune
what the fuck is duo unit system
nimble hatch
what the fuck is duo unit system
maybe read?
floral jacinth
rich plover
sage rune
maybe read?
let me make it clear
the fuck does that mean by deadeye + deadeye = ethereal duo
why the fuck is deadeye + ethereal = ethereal duo
abstract mango
basically, if i want to make it so that i dont know, for example:
mikasa and levi become a duo unit (knowing they are seperate units before) and they have both ethereal traits they become a monarch duo unit
sage rune
basically, if i want to make it so that i dont know, for example:
mikasa and lev...
so we getting monarch easier now
abstract mango
trait have to be the same to rank up
abstract mango
so we getting monarch easier now
its not really easier
sage rune
trait have to be the same to rank up
and then we say deadeye + ethereal
rich plover
@everyone Yo read this
true silo
Why did you choose the most mainstream units of All time. Gimme vanguard arararararararrarararagi
floral jacinth
@everyone yo should this be read
abstract mango
you need to have ethereal which is rare, making them monarch imwhen they become duo is okay imo?
sage rune
you need to have ethereal which is rare, making them monarch imwhen they become ...
ethereal is way easier to get than monarch
abstract mango
0.175% on duo separate units to make it become a 0.1% is okay
sage rune
well that is valid
abstract mango
yes but count that you got it on 2 separate units
sage rune
dependso n the devs though
wintry thunder
vsjw does not need a rework
abstract mango
dependso n the devs though
yes i know, but i want people's opinion on this, i dont think devs will listen much
true silo
What would monarch+Monarch give, with your logic?
wintry thunder
what are we doing 🤣
abstract mango
What would monarch+Monarch give, with your logic?
monarch
there is not a higher tier trait
wintry thunder
also eren as a vanguard
yea no
we not wasting a slot for a dude whos just gonna be another nuker
abstract mango
vsjw does not need a rework
eventual rework in case of eventual powercreep
true silo
we not wasting a slot for a dude whos just gonna be another nuker
Give it to Armin instead
Let him spawn annie
wintry thunder
eventual rework in case of eventual powercreep
vsjw aint never gonna be powercrept bro
he has inf scaling summons and 3 nukes for a reasonm
hes gonna be chilling for alot of updates
abstract mango
he doesnt need it right now, but it would be cool if he was actually in his end manga form
true silo
he doesnt need it right now, but it would be cool if he was actually in his end ...
Dead
wintry thunder
we dont gotta give him more
abstract mango
hes gonna be chilling for alot of updates
eventually would be overpowered by others
wintry thunder
and i dont mind fanfic vanguards
true silo
Thats his end form
wintry thunder
eventually would be overpowered by others
which will take aleast 8 updates
he has inf scaling summons, that already puts him there for a while
abstract mango
which will take aleast 8 updates
if that is what it needs to take im all for it
i dont mind
wintry thunder
hes not gonna need a rework, theres no reason to rework him
abstract mango
this is an eventual future vsjw rework
wintry thunder
if you rework vanguards, your just gonna end up with the ALS problem
wintry thunder
where you balance your game via reworks, and not proper balancing
abstract mango
kaguya doesnt need a rework
wintry thunder
did i mention kaguya, im just saying
if you end up reworking vanguards in general
your gonna make a als problem
reworking isnt balancing
true silo
point is vsjw is not in his endmanga arc
Why Do you need their end Manga Form?
glass berry
Solo leveling part 3 upd pls no
wintry thunder
- your "does not quality" list is literally every current vanguard but kaguya
abstract mango
+ your "does not quality" list is literally every current vanguard but kaguya
? no
true silo
Thats her end Manga form
abstract mango
Thats her end Manga form
oh i didnt know
if devs want to do that they could out her as seal
wintry thunder
? no
Fanmode forms is diavolo
incomplete characters is sjw
you can argue side grades is gogeta
true silo
Nah she is unsealed
wintry thunder
where GT ssj4 isnt even canon to begin with
true silo
In the game
abstract mango
my suggestion is mainly for future vanguards
true silo
But in the boruto manga
wintry thunder
- this shit is ass ibsr
true silo
It Was stated that she is sealed again
wintry thunder
he should, he generates alot of hype
which are what vanguards are kinda for
hype
kaguya kinda breaks the rule, cuz characters like madara exist
but they already pointed out they wanna save madara for later, which is fine
true silo
+ this shit is ass ibsr
Make monarch+ Monarch= getting a piece of pyseph chocolate birthday cake. I am hungry and cake is always taste 🎂
wintry thunder
Make monarch+ Monarch= getting a piece of pyseph chocolate birthday cake. I am h...
too bad i hate chocolate and cake
true silo
I am allergic to milk
But i still eat choco cake
Only one suffering is me after the cake
wintry thunder
also
why the hell would i sacifise 2 deadeyes for a ethereal
brodie
no one is doing that
true silo
Look what i found on tiktok with 0 likes
abstract mango
hey im back
true silo
abstract mango
what were to other problems
abstract mango
when deadeye is objectively the better trait rn
make it so that you can choose then
deadeye+ethereal = either ethereal or deadeye
abstract mango
as vanguard
wintry thunder
ichigo is fine as he is
wintry thunder
no we dont
abstract mango
hes fine?
wintry thunder
so?
abstract mango
no he isnt
wintry thunder
hes fine as he is
abstract mango
ichigo as submeta?
true silo
We need a trio vanguard unit looking like this
wintry thunder
such a mc not being atleats meta?
johnny isnt meta
or a secret
what is your point
true silo
Go go fight the power
abstract mango
johnny isnt meta
he should be secret too
abstract mango
hes underwhelming
wintry thunder
💔
abstract mango
i was disappointed
true silo
Guys
abstract mango
i forgot about him
abstract mango
he should be reworked and made secret
wintry thunder
if we go over the (ass) wiki optimal tierlist, there is literally only 8 mcs that are meta
do you just want every mc to be meta
abstract mango
could someone point out other things other than vsjw not needing a rework now?
wintry thunder
thats unrealilstic
wintry thunder
could someone point out other things other than vsjw not needing a rework now?
because hes literally fine as he is
abstract mango
do you just want every mc to be meta
atleast mainstream ones
wintry thunder
atleast mainstream ones
this just sounds like bias
abstract mango
because hes literally fine as he is
not an answer
abstract mango
i asked for something else
true silo
A unit 227272627 Times in every td game
abstract mango
this just sounds like bias
alright hear me out, strong units should be meta badrd off actual powerscaling
based
zinc cave
Sjw glaze is crazy
vast hamlet
@everyone yo should this be read
Please don't ping me again or i will report u for harassment and power abuse
true silo
abstract mango
could someone point out something else other than the obvious of sjw not needing a rework based off his end arc right now?
which i even said myself
abstract mango
could you read the last thing i said in the suggestion
vast hamlet
Yk vsjw is designed to never be powercrept right?
abstract mango
its a rework based off his end arc
true silo
Yk vsjw is designed to never be powercrept right?
Famous last words ( i am comming from upd 11)
vast hamlet
Famous last words ( i am comming from upd 11)
abstract mango
well if hes never powercrept then he doesnt need his end arc rework
otherwise if he is, im suggesting that instead of just buffing him they sdd those simple things
wintry thunder
no cuz u dont understand shit
abstract mango
you didnt answer
wintry thunder
i literally told u
sjw wont be powercrept
you denited it
multiple people say it
"wow thats something new"
abstract mango
wait a second
wintry thunder
vanguards dont need stupid requirements
rich plover
if we go over the (ass) wiki optimal tierlist, there is literally only 8 mcs tha...
What do you not like about the tl
wintry thunder
vsjw aint never gonna be powercrept bro
literally here, i said vsjw aint never gonan be power crept
abstract mango
well if hes never powercrept then he doesnt need his end arc rework
but thi is my reply tho
true silo
literally here, i said vsjw aint never gonan be power crept
Clearly edited 
abstract mango
otherwise if he is, im suggesting that instead of just buffing him they sdd thos...
.
vast hamlet
What do you not like about the tl
I can't see valentine in it
wintry thunder
What do you not like about the tl
ive just been hearing alot of complaints about it, like gogeta being low etc
the only real things i dont like is, i dont see how buu is still kinda meta, since i feel like hes leaning more towards the sub meta and rimuru being above someone like salter/goku
rich plover
I can't see valentine in it
True, ill move him and naruto up
vast hamlet
Yay
wintry thunder
meta summoner with monarch 😍
calling is ass is probably a overestimation by me tho, which is my bad, i would say its aleast mid with my complaints
wintry thunder
alot of units need reworks they're very underwhelming
well yea, because there from older updates
true silo
Nessies blessing
abstract mango
so powercreep exists
wintry thunder
and the devs already said they might do another SBR units, considering there some of the worst in the game
abstract mango
yk they're gonna make new units based off how strong current broken/metas are
and at some point vsjw is gonna be powercrept
by something else
true silo
and the devs already said they might do another SBR units, considering there so...
Wait when did they say that
wintry thunder
Wait when did they say that
update 6.0 QNA
wintry thunder
and at some point vsjw is gonna be powercrept
but the thing is. he wont.
true silo
update 6.0 QNA
So when I
wintry thunder
he has everything you want in a unit
wintry thunder
and even if he does get powercrept, he will get a buff
abstract mango
but make him endgame
true silo
Ask for a ddd unit rework, they decline that and i loose aura
wintry thunder
not a re work
true silo
but when YOU ask for
wintry thunder
because a rework makes ur game balancing ass
true silo
A jjba unit rework
wintry thunder
this isnt als
true silo
You gain aura
abstract mango
als was ok in reworking ichigo to tybw
true silo
true silo
I See how it is
wintry thunder
als was ok in reworking ichigo to tybw
als literally ruins their game with reworks
vast hamlet
ive just been hearing alot of complaints about it, like gogeta being low etc
the...
Rimuru is carried by cost efficiency mostly, gogeta is quite expensive and locked behind shit aoe till he is maxed out i agree with buu being ass but he is better than all units on submeta i mean can't rly complain about buu when yamamoto is even higher
abstract mango
als literally ruins their game with reworks
they rework things where they dont need to
im saying
true silo
als literally ruins their game with reworks
Add those sloppy Updates into your argument
abstract mango
ichigo did need it
wintry thunder
Rimuru is carried by cost efficiency mostly, gogeta is quite expensive and locke...
i feel like yama has uses, hes a bit too high imo tho
abstract mango
tybw is his final form
wintry thunder
but for the submetas, i use em way more then i use buu
vast hamlet
i feel like yama has uses, hes a bit too high imo tho
Yama is good for early (with monarch) that is all
abstract mango
what im saying, vsjw should be reworked ONLY if hes ever powercrept. not simply buffed
wintry thunder
ichigo yoruichi and saber specifically i use more then buu tbh, but i understand they wouldnt really be meta
abstract mango
also it isnt a mega rework
true silo
Or would they rather add lotm before sum ddd units
abstract mango
it just makes it so that igris isnt his duo
it cycles
changes animation for nukes
wintry thunder
ichigo yoruichi and saber specifically i use more then buu tbh, but i understand...
feel like these 3 should be in the low end of the meta personally
there extremely underrated
abstract mango
and replaces tusks instead of healer
vast hamlet
ichigo yoruichi and saber specifically i use more then buu tbh, but i understand...
Might agree with ichigo since he is quite cheap but the other two fell off
wintry thunder
Might agree with ichigo since he is quite cheap but the other two fell off
yea cant argue that they fell off, but there still have really good uses
but tbh, give em 2 updates
ill prob stop using them by then
vast hamlet
Ig
wintry thunder
think my only other complaint is bridget being meta
she feels like a sub meta option to me
wintry thunder
what im saying, vsjw should be reworked ONLY if hes ever powercrept. not simply ...
if he is powercrept. he should be buffed
not reworked
reworked doesnt help powercreep
it makes it worse in some cases
abstract mango
anyways, the things where you guys dont agree on are:
vsjw rework if eventual powercreep
vanguards being final canon forms of mcs
duo unit trait system
wintry thunder
no i disagree on everything
abstract mango
right?
wintry thunder
💔
abstract mango
man i dont even know how to make suggestions
i guess ill just stick to search for fixes
as my ideas dont attract anyone
true silo
Hey
wintry thunder
-
Vanguards should'nt have a System Req, they should just been on what is hyped within the community
every vanguard (but kaguya because of special reasons) is hyped within the anime community and each have seem a bunch of praises -
Your vanguard suggestions are kinda ass
SJW doesnt need a rework
Eren is not vanguard worthy, he doesnt do much
UI Goku + UE vegeta i dont even see coming to the game
Dio OH is only known in the rblx community as "The rare unit from AA", im psure the devs have spoken about him during a QNA
Gear 5 Luffy should just be a evo
TYBW Ichigo doesnt need a rework
Sukuna already got deconfirmed as a vanguard due to CR issues, he will prob get a rework instead -
Duo units as you are saying it should just not be in the game, especially with your trait idea, it will cause all types of balancing issues
The current duo unit system we have is fine since
Its either the 2nd unit is a cosmetic (Rem and Ram)
It is a swap system (Goku + Vegeta, Cid + John Smith)
The unit both do something to each other (Mark + Conquest attack each other)
true silo
@little hamlet can you summarize this and talk like a droid wearing a napeleon costume
wintry thunder
<@806639310207975484> can you summarize this and talk like a droid wearing a nap...
🤖
suggestion ass
theres nothing we can do
🤖
true silo
My goat
wintry thunder
this suggestion can be saved once type soul releases
true silo
- Vanguards should'nt have a System Req, they should just been on what is hyped ...
Aint dio oh the guy, who released on yba and used hamon to completly abuse me and my ancestors in time stop
abstract mango
what you're saying is sjw doesnt need a rework in case of eventual powercrep
eren isnt vanguard worthy in terms of anime powerscaling, otherwise he would be a busted vanguard summonbased unit, i mean i don't think we need another vanguard summoner but it would be cool seeing him as vanguard, ui goku + ue vegeta probably wont come but it isnt a bad idea, since they work alot together, dio OH isnt only known in the roblox community, hes very known by jjba fans, tybw ichigo needs a rework/really big buff, gesr 5 luffy is one if the most hyped things in all of anime, if youre saying vanguards are based off hype then that would be the 2nd must be vanguard unit, 1st being ui goku, well i guess sukuna is ok to not be a vanguard but just a rework, duo unit without my trait idea is definitely better. mark + conquest can be seen as a duo unit and same thing for goku vegeta, but they dont have the mechanic where rhey are seperate unit before snd become duo units after, which in my opinion i wouldnt mind both, but would be cool to have separate then duo , and not have double traits but trait upgrade instead.
cedar pumice
bro why tho
i lowk dont care aout anything else
but why r u restricting vanguard ideas
diavalo is a cool unit
thats lowk stupid
cedar pumice
hes not secret worthy
abstract mango
but they should keep in mind that non canon/fanmade characters from now on should be qualified as secrets.
more hyped characters should get their position instead
like wdym ichigo isnt vanguard?
is he not hyped enough to be
talking about the devs decision btw
making him a secret would be the bare minimum
true silo
but they should keep in mind that non canon/fanmade characters from now on shoul...
Wdym, how Do you determine this
abstract mango
rumbling titan eren is more hyped than diavolo requiem, with kirboo's logic it would be vanguard
not like he says
abstract mango
Wdym, how Do you determine this
huh?
cedar pumice
Wdym, how Do you determine this
thats his suggestion
true silo
Wdym his suggestion
tall tangle
like wdym ichigo isnt vanguard?
by ichigo being vanguard worthy do you mean limited or permanent?
abstract mango
because they just cant give up vanguard spots for such characters
cedar pumice
Wdym his suggestion
to restrict vanguards to canon units only
true silo
In that case it would mean "his opinion "
true silo
Aint the devs deciding that
abstract mango
quest like vsjw
cedar pumice
r u asking what canon is
canon is something that appears and is relevant to the main storyline
abstract mango
In that case it would mean "his opinion "
yes
abstract mango
that is my opinion youre right
true silo
- Vanguards should'nt have a System Req, they should just been on what is hyped ...
Wait a minute
Bro
You even Put in there dio oh
That mf aint even canon too
How is diavolo requiem not allowed
abstract mango
dio oh isnt part of the main timeline, diavolo is fanmade
true silo
Wait you are yapping the whole time while not being 100 percent sure
true silo
bur he's not part of the main timeline
No shit
He is from the gane
Game
Like bro pls, dont be like the average joe nowdays and making a claim while not being 100 percent certain
This Stand may be the outcome of DIO's ambition to 'achieve Heaven' via a Stand, as stated in his diary. Even though it's not canon, it's still one of the most potent abilities in the JoJo series.
abstract mango
gogeta ssj4 could be vanguard if he was the strongest goku /vegeta form
true silo
This Stand may be the outcome of DIO's ambition to 'achieve Heaven' via a Stand,...
From the internet
How Do you give dio oh the Pass and not diavolo reqiuem if both aint canon
abstract mango
diavolo is literally fanmade
wait want me to tell ou what dio oh is
wait a second
abstract mango
yes i know, btw the direction of the game was approved, dio oh isnt canon to the main timeline, i guess that gets him off the worthiness
true silo
VANGUARD SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
✅ What Qualifies as a Vanguard:
Canon final form only
No speculation, no fan fiction. Character must have a complete, canon end-game form in the manga or anime.
True peak evolution
A character’s final and strongest canonical version. Can be solo or part of a Duo Unit.
❌ What Does NOT Qualify:
Fan-made forms (e.g., Diavolo Requiem)
Incomplete characters (e.g., characters whose arcs are unfinished)
Non-peak variants (mid forms, side grades, etc.)
CANDIDATES FOR VANGUARD STATUS
- SJW– End of manga, not Ragnarok arc (not finished), my rework as an inspiration.
- Eren Yeager (Rumbling Titan)
- Ultra Instinct Goku + Ultra Ego Vegeta – Canon synergy, final arcs (Duo Unit)
- Kaguya is alright.
- DIO Over Heaven – Semi-canon, could be valid
- Gear 5 Luffy
- TYBW Ichigo Reworked
- Heian Sukuna
- Other candidates – Must meet full Vanguard criteria above
DUO UNIT SYSTEM
🔧 Fusion Requirements:
Sacrifice 2 specific units to form 1 Duo Unit
Must have:
Matching traits for tier gains
🔧 Trait Upgrades Based on Traits:
Deadeye+Deadeye=Ethereal Duo
Ethereal+Ethereal=Monarch Duo
Deadeye+Ethereal= Ethereal Duo
VSJW REWORK PLAN
Concept:
As SJW upgrades, his Shadow Commanders rotate from attacking with SJW to summons.
Attacks:
Attack 1: Igris
SJW w/ Igris (no commander summons)
Attack 2: Beru replaces Igris
SJW w/ Beru
Igris becomes a commander summon
Attack 3: Bellion replaces Beru
SJW w/ Bellion
Beru + Igris both become commander summons
Summon Changes:
🔄 Healer → Tusk
Tusk had consistent screen presence and impact.
The healer didn't, and underperforms in-game.
New Role: Tusk applies Burn Damage as support.
Nuke Attack Rework:
- First Nuke: VSJW + Igris
- Second Nuke: VSJW + Beru
- Final Nuke: VSJW + Bellion
Notes:
This rework should not be rushed. Implement it only when power creep makes the current VSJW outdated.
You legit
cedar pumice
dio oh is a sick character so he shoold be added anyawys
true silo
Mentioned the Word canon
cedar pumice
theres no reason to restrict units
abstract mango
but he's definitely more worthy than diavolo and 100x times more hyped, but if av's idea was to be original then diavolo is better
true silo
I am not trusting you anymore unless you join the saiko Agenda and agree that she is vanguard level🐢
abstract mango
but if we don't put in mind those requirements, he's more worthy than diavolo
diavolo more worthy in terms of originality
abstract mango
I am not trusting you anymore unless you join the saiko Agenda and agree that sh...
who
i need to edit my original suggestion
gotta make myself more clear
what i gotta add is that if they want to put a character who isnt qualified with thise requirements, at least make them their final canon form
and remove dio
wait a sec
true silo
Uh
abstract mango
also i even said that vsjw should be only implemented if eventual powercrepp
so people saying sjw doesnt need a rework
true silo
Why cant i send it
abstract mango
are not understanding me
true silo
I am looking for a saiko picture rn
abstract mango
because they either think that sjw doesn't need a rework rn, which I never said or they think that vsjw will never be powercrept which is less probably going to happen than him going to be powercrept if he doesnt get buffed
abstract mango
VANGUARD SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
✅ What qualifies as a Vanguard:
No speculation, no fan fiction.
True peak evolution
A character’s final and strongest non fanfic version. Can be solo or part of a Duo Unit.
Doesn't need to be the most hyped thing in all of existence, but since Vanguards would be a limited amount of units, you should take them based off hype, what players want.
❌ What Does NOT Qualify:
Fan-made forms (e.g., Diavolo Requiem,)
Non-peak variants (mid forms, side grades, etc.)
CANDIDATES FOR VANGUARD STATUS
- SJW– End of manga, not Ragnarok arc (not finished), my rework as an inspiration.
- Eren Yeager (Rumbling Titan)
- Ultra Instinct Goku + Ultra Ego Vegeta – Canon synergy, final arcs (Duo Unit)
- Kaguya is alright.
- Gear 5 Luffy
- TYBW Ichigo Reworked
- Other candidates – Must meet full Vanguard criteria above
DUO UNIT SYSTEM, ALTERNATE TO SWAP SYSTEM, IF ITS EVER GOING TO BE ADDED
🔧 Requirements:
Sacrifice 2 specific units to form 1 Duo Unit
Must have:
Matching traits if you want tier gains
🔧 Trait Upgrades Based on Traits:
Deadeye+Deadeye=Ethereal Duo
Ethereal+Ethereal=Monarch Duo
Deadeye+Ethereal= either Ethereal or Deadeye, depending on the player's choice
VSJW REWORK PLAN ONLY IF EVENTUAL POWERCREEP
Concept:
As SJW upgrades, his Shadow Commanders rotate from attacking with SJW to summons.
Attacks:
Attack 1: Igris
SJW w/ Igris (no commander summons)
Attack 2: Beru replaces Igris
SJW w/ Beru
Igris becomes a commander summon
Attack 3: Bellion replaces Beru
SJW w/ Bellion
Beru + Igris both become commander summons
Summon Changes:
🔄 Healer → Tusk
Tusk had consistent screen presence and impact.
The healer didn't, and underperforms in-game.
New Role: Tusk applies Burn Damage as support.
Nuke Attack Rework:
- First Nuke: VSJW + Igris
- Second Nuke: VSJW + Beru
- Final Nuke: VSJW + Bellion
Notes:
Implement it only when power creep makes the current VSJW outdated.
wintry thunder
bur he's not part of the main timeline
this is like saying LN kars is semi canon
abstract mango
i adjusted
wintry thunder
we know f or a fact that guy is NOT semi canon
abstract mango
doesnt need to be canon
just needs to not be fanfic
fanfic would rather be secrets
wintry thunder
- diavolo req can be argued as a what if sceneorio
he literally more plausible to be in actual jjba timeline
then dio oh
who is confirmed to be not canon at all
abstract mango
i removed
dio og
oh
i remade the list
there are other candidates
but it would be ok if either canon or non canon (non fanfic always) its just one vanguard per anime
like the strongest where we know most combat info about them, i mean zeno is the strongets of db, but he doesnt fight
it doesnt need to be that
it can be the most hyped character/duo of the animes
BUT ALWAYS PEAK FORMS
marsh sundial
abstract mango
**VANGUARD SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS**
✅ What qualifies as a Vanguard:
No speculation,...
hey, ignore the original@marsh sundial, i remade it
verbal mason
yo can we get this guy suggestion blacklist
first he want rework mvp system when its in a perfectly state and now he want change vanguards system? LOL
abstract mango
i deleted the mvp because i didnt know the real impact on leeching community
while my edited version of this suggestion is definitely ok
and you cant argue
dont even try to start
if you dont have a valid argument
i despise people who get at a conclusion without any reasoning
true silo
yo can we get this guy suggestion blacklist
I wont lie there are worse "suggestions" out there that need a Black list than this one 
I am not defending him just because He joined the seiko Camp
abstract mango
im reworking my message
it will definitely have better feedback
based off yall's opinions
but i would never understand how people wouldnt want the rework i gave instead of a buff incase of powercreep
just to make him endmanga arc
but it still has the idea of fanfic characters not being vanguards but lower
because if vanguards are online one character per anime, and av needs originality then ger instead of diavolo would be better
he doesnt get any love
just wait and see for my new msg
sage moth
abstract mango
Vanguard System Rework, Duo Unit System
i want to know if this edited version is ok or not
feel free to point anything out
mention me btw
review this bruh
livid fog
return gilgamesh from limiteds and make a gilgamesh enkidu duo unit
that would be peak
true silo
Why not enkidu and siduri
true silo
return gilgamesh from limiteds and make a gilgamesh enkidu duo unit
I want to have that trio back🐢
I wish they would add her cosmetic instead of the gil cosmetic we got
livid fog
Why not enkidu and siduri
i dont think either of those are in the game
i was suggesting gilgamesh and enkidu as a double evolution
true silo
Ye ik :C.
Enkidu Sounds actually good
His np (ea) could give him cc
But i still want siduri as an cosmetic or unit.
I swear gil Was sad three Times in his life
abstract mango
return gilgamesh from limiteds and make a gilgamesh enkidu duo unit
nice idea i guess
true silo
First when enkidu died, then when siduri died and then when enkidu sacrificed himself
wintry thunder
i was suggesting gilgamesh and enkidu as a double evolution
there not giving a limited unit a double evo
livid fog
i said return it from limiteds
abstract mango
there not giving a limited unit a double evo
fair, would be cool tho lol, cant blame a dude for having ideas
abstract mango
idk why gilgamesh was made limited anyway
yep ion know why too
i mean stage unit
same thing for toji
abstract mango
i mean stage unit
obtainable via quest
wintry thunder
they aint gonna return him from limited to obtainable
abstract mango
dumbest idea
yes thats kind of dumb, but him not being limited at the start isnt
obviously it will never be obtainable again
but yeah
livid fog
or they could return it then make it unobtainable ig
true silo
I swear He got more aura than aizen
livid fog
like have it return as a double evo then retire it again or smn
yeah i know obv they would never do that
they would never do anyhthing to make us happyh
im still manifesting sukuna double evo vanguard
abstract mango
no it just breaks the meaning of limited
true silo
How Do you not have gil
abstract mango
which is another discussion
true silo
Did you take a break
abstract mango
im still manifesting sukuna double evo vanguard
no double evo, rework probably
true silo
From the game or just joined
abstract mango
anyways i still havent heard a new review
livid fog
yeah i know
that's why im manifesting it
its still in my dreams
that sukuna world cutting slashes dmca
and comes to av as a vanguard
livid fog
no it just breaks the meaning of limited
i would disagree
abstract mango
they dont have any problems
abstract mango
i would disagree
how?
livid fog
making it obtainable then unobtainable after that just once
abstract mango
limiteds cant return
livid fog
still makes it limited
livid fog
yuh uh
abstract mango
well probably in a way
true silo
still makes it limited
What if we use 100 percent of our brain ah
abstract mango
what they should mean (devs) my limited, is unobtainable
limited can be event units which can return
they do this with alot of things in other games
so i can understand u
abstract mango
ehehe no
livid fog
so it's still exclusive but has a double evo
livid fog
definitely yes bro
livid fog
im putting vanguard sukuna and vanguard gilgamesh + enkidu on my wish list for christmas
abstract mango
i dont see how a vanguard sukuna is not possible bc of dmca
i mean als has him
like wtf
livid fog
i have 2 theories
- they're lying because they dont like jjk and dont wanna add it (in that case, pyseph ur my opp)
- they're lying because they ARE actually gonna make a vanguard sukuna but they're making it a secret then just when no ones expecting it (or maybe when jjk season 3 comes out), they release it with a jjk upd
AND BOOM
livid fog
sukuna just world cutting slashes the world
wintry thunder
ur shit is still ass
abstract mango
follow instructions
verbal mason
1. they're lying because they dont like jjk and dont wanna add it (in that case,...
ofc theyre lying but sukuna wont be the next vanguard version
i just dont think he can provide that much hype
compared to the othe roptions
abstract mango
kirbo boy
wintry thunder
they might expand more on the sukuna situation this qna
abstract mango
follow instructions
abstract mango
follow instructions lol
verbal mason
i dont think they are lying tbh
they are lying
verbal mason
not a single jjk game has been taken down..
wintry thunder
duo unit system you provide is not needed at all
and vanguards dont need a set rule
literally it
abstract mango
vanguards do need a set rule and my duo system, is for an eventual adding of it independent from me asking jt
verbal mason
vanguards do need a set rule and my duo system, is for an eventual adding of it ...
a set rule??
abstract mango
it just says that if it happens to get added, then it should have the trait upgrade
true silo
1. they're lying because they dont like jjk and dont wanna add it (in that case,...
Why would they lie about that
Like what do they gain?
They have 0 reason to lie
abstract mango
a set rule??
by set rule he means like following those things i said
wintry thunder
it just says that if it happens to get added, then it should have the trait upgr...
no they shouldnt
my god
verbal mason
They have 0 reason to lie
bro its what you do as a dev
and u have no choice but to lie
for the better benefit
abstract mango
it could be no upgrade but at least the ability to choose which trait stays has to be there
we can all agree double traits are shit
true silo
bro its what you do as a dev
Brother the av dev team gotta be the most open dev team. Idk how long you followed this game
abstract mango
thats why we need to choose the option where we have:
two units one has deadeye one has ethereal
we choose what the duo unit stays with
and you cant argue on thus
in any way
wintry thunder
thats why we need to choose the option where we have:
two units one has deadeye ...
or just
true silo
Like they even state sometimes who is to blame. Or back then they said why some ppl on their team left.
Like
true silo
Like calling them liars
wintry thunder
"cant argue with this anyway" bro we just dont NEED it
verbal mason
Brother the av dev team gotta be the most open dev team. Idk how long you follow...
and they are LYING about the copyright
abstract mango
meaning that when duo system is added, and it works like i said, you just sacrifice 2 units and get shit? the duo but traitless
verbal mason
why u defending them so hard
true silo
They did pea shooter
wintry thunder
meaning that when duo system is added, and it works like i said, you just sacrif...
or just.
verbal mason
not a single jjk game has been taken down
wintry thunder
not add it at all.
abstract mango
wtf are you saying
true silo
And changed him asap
true silo
why u defending them so hard
Cuz your takes are horrid
wintry thunder
your duo system is literally not needed in the slightest
abstract mango
im saying in the case they add @wintry thunder it for fucks sake
livid fog
- i agree with the qualification
- i think 1 vanguard per anime is reasonable even tho it means they wouldn't be able to add more popular characters
and in extension, they should only add the best/most popular/most deserving characters for future vanguards
vanguard candidates
- i would personally disqualify goku/vegeta just because there's already gogeta (sorry chat)
- no luffy because one piece is the worst case to catch for a dmca
- reasonable, there's a lot of potential but i'm not sure how it would be executed. most games would do summons for eren, but i think av would be better off doing transformations
- reworked tybw ichigo is by far the best candidate (or just below sukuna if we ignore dmca)
- giorno id personally disqualify again since we already have diavolo
duo unit system
i would only see this as reasonable if it's made as a unique mechanic for 1 unit, i also don't understand the trait upgrades - do you have to roll these traits on both units then merge together to form 1 trait?
verbal mason
Cuz your takes are horrid
awful in what way?
wintry thunder
im saying in the case they add <@1344256304050475149> it for fucks sake
"in case" brother they WONT added it
💔
verbal mason
1. i agree with the qualification
2. i think 1 vanguard per anime is reasonable ...
2 is stupid
sage moth
not a single jjk game has been taken down
yeah because it's probably not an issue with jjk itself
true silo
awful in what way?
Calling them liars😭
verbal mason
abstract mango
"in case" brother they WONT added it
comes from devs's mouths?
wintry thunder
comes from devs's mouths?
the devs arent adding something as useless as this
livid fog
whats wrong with that
wintry thunder
how we have duo units working now is fine
you swap between them as a meter
that is completely fine
sage moth
1. i agree with the qualification
2. i think 1 vanguard per anime is reasonable ...
more hype anime that have more than 1 character that's cool enough could have multiple vanguards
true silo
they have a history of lying?
Drop me 10 times, when they Lied to us and i May agree
true silo
If you can do that
abstract mango
the devs arent adding something as useless as this
did they say it? did they say the only thing functioning as duo will be swap?
true silo
I am agreeing 100 percent
verbal mason
sybau, king_karma
livid fog
so u want goku to be the vanguard? 😭
what?
wintry thunder
did they say it? did they say the only thing functioning as duo will be swap?
so your telling me the devs are gonna add this
a useless system
that isnt needed at all
verbal mason
dont know why 10 is the minimum for you 😂 if they have a history of lying then nothing is stopping them from creating excuses as a cover-up story for this case
true silo
Why are we clowning on the op of the suggestion if @verbal mason exists
livid fog
im so lost
livid fog
what is this guy even talking about
verbal mason
he's switching up the topic for no reason
true silo
"ofc theyre lying but sukuna wont be the next vanguard version"
livid fog
"ofc theyre lying but sukuna wont be the next vanguard version"
IT WILL BE
i believe it
if i believe it i can achieve it
🥀
you gotta manifest it in your heart bro
even tho it doesnt' exist on paper it exists in our hearts
true silo
dont know why 10 is the minimum for you 😂 if they have a history of lying then ...
You cant even mention 10 Times. Thats why i choosed that number. Because children nowdays love to yapp and drop garbage takes without backing them up🤦♂️
verbal mason
You cant even mention 10 Times. Thats why i choosed that number. Because childre...
and i don't care because they have a history of lying
verbal mason
all of the Vanguard characters all have been popular ones
abstract mango
1. i agree with the qualification
2. i think 1 vanguard per anime is reasonable ...
the thing is, i never said 1 vanguard per anime rule should be there , i said in case it is then diavolo just ate the slot of ger/dio
1 theres no gogeta theres vegito, which should remain as is, but lower rarity making blue Gogeta as secret, and vanguard ui goku ue vegeta
2 we werent counting dmca
3 eren based off hype
4 yeah
5 i explained, that if theres nore than one slot then it could be added, or dio if originality doesnt matter
duo unit system is only if its added by devs, its by far the most balanced thing knowing that if they do add it , and it works like that, getting a monarch on the duo unit is just as rare as getting ethereal on both the 2 seperate units from before
sage moth
all of the Vanguard characters all have been popular ones
maybe not liked but they've all been well known atleast yeah
livid fog
the thing is, i never said 1 vanguard per anime rule should be there , i said in...
im saying 1 vanguard per anime should be part of the qualification should've madeit more clear
abstract mango
so your telling me the devs are gonna add this
they should , if duo is added
livid fog
because i don't want to wait 2-3 months per vanguard unit
for it to be from the same anime
verbal mason
for it to be from the same anime
and you know they arent going do thisd
abstract mango
and its not useless in any way
abstract mango
it isnt
wintry thunder
we already have swap
abstract mango
DUDE
wintry thunder
we already have swap
sage moth
for it to be from the same anime
if the character is cool enough then there's no issue lol
abstract mango
are you dumb?
true silo
and i don't care because they have a history of lying
So you cant provide claims that back up your claims. Thats how easy it is to call out children nowdays. Ask them for a source or an legitimate example and they loose it :3.
wintry thunder
im not dumb
abstract mango
ive been repeating my self saying the same things
sage moth
ger would be a way cooler vanguard than like 99% of other things they could do
wintry thunder
why would the devs had another system, when we have swap
abstract mango
yes you are
livid fog
if the character is cool enough then there's no issue lol
but that means gojo and sukuna would be the only candidates
🥀
i love glazing jjk
wintry thunder
please tell me why would the devs add this whole system
abstract mango
i suggested something for an eventual system if they add it
and you're saying they're not gonna add it just because you think so
like wtf??
any reasoning?
livid fog
i think the best units to add as vanguards of pre existing units are
- ichigo
- gilgamesh and enkidu or saber (yeah i know gilgamesh is limited)
abstract mango
please tell me **why would the devs add this whole system**
because its fucking balanced
wintry thunder
and you're saying they're not gonna add it just because you think so
not that a think so, its because i know so
as i said, we already have swap as the mechanic for the game
this mechanic works prefectly fine, and is liked by the community
why do we need another duo unit system
abstract mango
not that a think so, its because i know so
as i said, we already have swap as t...
did they tell you that themselves
wintry thunder
when swap works well for pretty much any case
wintry thunder
did they tell you that themselves
are you gonna think logically, or keep thinking like a dumb idiot
livid fog
chat
wintry thunder
why would the devs, spend their time making a entire new system, when we already have one
livid fog
what about
wintry thunder
like bro
livid fog
baam
wintry thunder
stop acting slow
livid fog
as a vanguard
abstract mango
gtg wait
livid fog
like hear me out
baam could be a whole ting
i've never seen an atd game do tower of god
sage moth
yeah we probably shouldn't make a vanguard out of smth that isn't mainsteam af
that's a recipe for disaster
wintry thunder
awtd is too peak
knotty zenith
fuck powerscaling
wintry thunder
they got everyone
livid fog
im searching it up
sage moth
fuck powerscaling
where the fuck did this come from 😭
livid fog
i dont see any tower of god units in either of those games
wintry thunder
where the fuck did this come from 😭
the suggestion for "quality as a vangaurd" has powerscaling
knotty zenith
where the fuck did this come from 😭
i read it in the suggestion
sage moth
the suggestion for "quality as a vangaurd" has powerscaling
oh man
wintry thunder
this whole suggestion is just a shit post
sage moth
mb i couldn't read past the 3rd line
wintry thunder
why do we need a vanguard system rework
and why a duo unit system
💔
just adding shit to add shit
true silo
Guys
knotty zenith
😭
sage moth
shut ts down
wintry thunder
if only type soul release date could just drop non of these suggestions would exist
true silo
I got it the first time that the idea May not be good bur no need to permanently shit on this guy
But*
This could be you guys
abstract mango
Should reflect powerscaling
ig thats wrong yes
sage moth
that is the lamest fucking argument ive heard all week
true silo
that is the lamest fucking argument ive heard all week
Why are you so pressed
abstract mango
dude called it rhe lamest for a mistake
true silo
Are you by any chance frustrated irl?
abstract mango
ucking hilarious clown
go at a circle you'll be making millions
1 mistake
get more mistakes and then call it the lamest
like wtf
and valid ones
true silo
There May be good or bad takes/suggestions. But seeing those guys permanently clowning on you gotta be disgusting
Alr now i am gonna be Opposite and cuss at ppl in another suggestion
The*
abstract mango
@wintry thunder anyways i reflect with logic thinking that duo will probably be added if we count devs team changing, as it impacts the choices z and my suggestion is for it eventually being added, and not useless in any way
balmy totem
wtf is a duo system 😭
abstract mango
read
true silo
wtf is a duo system 😭
Duolingo
abstract mango
like bro
true silo
Bro joined on his alt
livid fog
yeah cuz ur a new gen
tower of god is a new gen anime
abstract mango
There May be good or bad takes/suggestions. But seeing those guys permanently c...
this is their reasoning:
1 mistake= whole argument invalid
devs WON'T add something (never confirmed btw) = useless system
verbal mason
tower of god is a new gen anime
talking about the anime games
abstract mango
ridicolous
verbal mason
for ur favorite anime idk how u couldnt find it?
sage moth
Why are you so pressed
im not pressed this is free entertainment
verbal mason
it's also in aa
livid fog
because it doesn't exist in those games
true silo
im not pressed this is free entertainment
Ah yes, you are not pressed
abstract mango
im not pressed this is free entertainment
either talk with logic or dont be a clown
livid fog
dimethylmercury dissociates into mercury ions in the bloodstream
livid fog
and interferes with sulfur especially in the brain
which causes disintegration
at a very slow rate
sage moth
Ah yes, you are not pressed <:sobpray:1360013201235902765>
yeah not really
livid fog
of nerve and any tissue in the brain really
true silo
yeah not really
Whatever makes you feel better ig. My pressed boy
livid fog
the symptoms may take a while to show
but dizziness, lack of balance are the initial ones
and reduced intelligence
abstract mango
i gave clear instructions: do not say " this is just dumb" use a valid point
livid fog
inability to produce coherent speech
abstract mango
but obviously
livid fog
baam and/or senku would be such fire vanguards brah
livid fog
😭
true silo
0/10 ragebait
sage moth
you're the one ragebaiting here lmao
abstract mango
actually dumbest dude ive ever seen
atleast others can explain why its ass
or atleast try to
but you're just pointing out the obvious: you're dumb
sage moth
actually dumbest dude ive ever seen
you've never looked in a mirror?
abstract mango
coming from you
sage moth
because the 2nd line of your suggestion is "powerscaling should be considered"
abstract mango
yes and i see someone who can argue
sage moth
then you go on a rant about "duo system"
abstract mango
because the 2nd line of your suggestion is "powerscaling should be considered"
one mistake baby boy
true silo
The enderian how do Do See you sit in every suggestion being pressed about everything
abstract mango
then you go on a rant about "duo system"
trait duo system which is useful if devs decide to add the duo system, they should consider the 2 diverse traits of the units used
isnt that ok?
true silo
And then yapp just because you have nothing to do irl🥀
sage moth
And then yapp just because you have nothing to do irl🥀
projecting
sage moth
The enderian how do Do See you sit in every suggestion being pressed about every...
no because you're the only one who brings ts up
so idrc
true silo
Sit and Camp suggestions
sage moth
No need to be pressed again
getting pressed is making fun of you ig
true silo
You can change the topics all you want
sage moth
im not changing topics lmao
true silo
But we both know that i See you in other suggestions
left notch
someone explain it suggestion on fortnite theme
versed folio
hply shit 842+ comments 5 reactions
true silo
someone explain it suggestion on fortnite theme
What exactly
The one sided beef or this suggestion
left notch
The one sided beef or this suggestion
this suggestion
abstract mango
like i dont get what people have to say about the trait upgrade idea? its literally said in the start of me talking about the duo system:
duo system, alt to swap, if ever added
what i meant by that is that if they ever add it it should work like this
left notch
idc the beef
abstract mango
should
true silo
this suggestion
Mhh lemme think
abstract mango
not NEED
wintry thunder
someone explain it suggestion on fortnite theme
so like
we should have duo fortnite skins when edit styles exist
and legendary skins should have requirements before being made
fortnite edition
wintry thunder
abstract mango
youre a random clown on the internet
you're more of a clown than him
abstract mango
aint this just making things easier to get 2 monarchs
???
abstract mango
want me to explain why its balanced?
sage moth
you're more of a clown than him
okay thanks for your input, i will not think much about it though.
versed folio
want me to explain why its balanced?
sure
left notch
oh is thr guy who suggested mvp for solo rift
true silo
Op tries to think of a tripple shotgun pump mechanic, but there exist only the double pump mechanic.
Idk if it fits
abstract mango
getting ethereal on 2 seperate units is rarer than getting monarch on one
abstract mango
mesning if they're gonna become a duo unit, trait shouldnt just disappeae
true silo
type soul release date and these suggestions will be gone
I saw you type this 3 times
What does that mean
abstract mango
it could even be chance based if you get the upgrade to monarch
wintry thunder
duhhh
abstract mango
for an even more fair shit
yk?
but rolling on the duo and getting monarch is as rare as getting eth on both the separate units before
actually getting eth as i said is rarer
true silo
release date
What does type soul have to do with suggestions
abstract mango
on both
abstract mango
type soul release date and these suggestions will be gone
suggestions that have a point while you dont
lololol
alright
wintry thunder
What does type soul have to do with suggestions
because i want the type soul
release date
true silo
because i want the type soul
?
left notch
if only duo system existed
versed folio
getting ethereal on 2 seperate units is rarer than getting monarch on one
more work for the devs = devs 😴😴
wintry thunder
if only duo system existed
double ethereal vsjw 🤣 🤞
left notch
whatever
why the hell it suggestion have a lot of yapping but almost no reactions
versed folio
<@827434619921367081> read
If someone gets 2 monarchs?
abstract mango
whatever
why the hell it suggestion have a lot of yapping but almost no reaction...
yes i guess im sad about that
true silo
whatever
why the hell it suggestion have a lot of yapping but almost no reaction...
Cuz we got 3 unemployed ppl and 1 goku pfp that is pressed 🐢
Come i will give your suggestion one star
abstract mango
because not alot of people think this is valid, i guess they have their reasonings (sometimes stupid) but yeah
true silo
Just because you attracted jobless ppl
verbal mason
because not alot of people think this is valid, i guess they have their reasonin...
nobody here is on ur side
abstract mango
nobody here is on ur side
meaning?
true silo
Oh look its ash
true silo
They guy who called the devs liars but couldnt back it up
abstract mango
wtf does that mean
true silo
My fav nonsense yapper
abstract mango
like atleast explain why you aren't ash
left notch
the av suggestion lore is crazy
true silo
the av suggestion lore is crazy
Tbf its not that deep
abstract mango
like i said before
ehich is nonsense
because that means you dont have the ability to produce an opinion
if you do that then yeah
dont even talk
true silo
You will See the same unemployed children on a daily Basis in suggestions
left notch
dont even talk
stupid people bump the suggestion for free so...
abstract mango
get the ability to think of an opinion independent and then come talk to me ash boy
verbal mason
get the ability to think of an opinion independent and then come talk to me ash ...
no need
left notch
they have their uses
abstract mango
You will See the same unemployed children on a daily Basis in suggestions
well im kinda unemployed myself i got nothing to do
im a minor tho
im justified
true silo
well im kinda unemployed myself i got nothing to do
I am studying so i am unemployed
Yk what
wintry thunder
verbal mason
what does minor have to do with u not having a job 😭
abstract mango
anyways
left notch
the only thing i don't like about it suggestion is eren as a vanguard
abstract mango
what does minor have to do with u not having a job 😭
cause im justified unlike adults?
i dont have the obligation to get one
and this is offtopic anyways lets just get back
to the discussion
so ash boy
can you get your own opinion
or can u only accuse me of asking it because i need bumps
which isnt true
i need opinion
s
and not people calling suggestions dumb just because they want
verbal mason
i havent called it dumb?
abstract mango
talking about other dudes
but yeah
im saying
I need an opinion
either form one or say you cant
abstract mango
the only thing i don't like about it suggestion is eren as a vanguard
lol you agree with me one time
abstract mango
the only thing i don't like about it suggestion is eren as a vanguard
well i could understand him being a secret
true silo
In 30 min is stage
abstract mango
won't say one for a suggestion that will never get added
okay go on
thats if it never gets reviewd
e