#2x speed
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They already said they wouldnt do this, itll make the game way to easy. Vsjw grind wouldnt even be time consuming
game is alr relatively fast do you want every match to last like 3 minutes 😭
It would literally make getting rr way to easy also with the wordline, new event, and boss event
yeahhh
People wouldnt even use afk chamber if there was 2x speed
slop suggestion
wont be added
Ong
Wait Till someone makes a suggestion and Asks for 3 x speed
already exists

why do people playing this game HATE the idea of 2x speed
the tower defense genre needs it
the gameplay is boring and repetitive i dont get what yall want
people use scripts for that
why do they want this
stop looking at stages as only 6 minutes look at like a set for example tower, I can do like 5 before getting bored but with 2x i can do 10 and get bored
PEOPLE LITERALLY GOT 🥭 / and tinytasks TO FARM GEMS WHAT ARE YOU SAYING
So many people still use afk chamber, 2x speed would remove that, also it would lower player time which means less money for the devs
U js want everything to be easy and handed to you
no it wouldnt
how would it
easy doesnt mean respecting my time
Well ur not even specifying what ur asking abt, i stated 2 things
U cant js say how and want me to know what u want me to explain
did you lose memory here
mfs when 5 mins stage takes 5 mins: 🪦
you mfs life span is of only 7 minutes
I said it would take away from afk chamber and cause the devs to lose money and idk which ur asking abt
look your still saying 5 minutes like its a one time thing
i want you too look at it as a set
the only gamemodes that take more than 5 minutes are dungeons and raid
you got me?
Jesus
Bro r u gonna tell me what u want me to explain or not
U want me to explain how the devs lose money or how it takes away from the afk chamber?
people are building ecosystems around finding ways to farm this game afk cuz it requires alot of resources and time which people dont got to splurge theyre on the game 24/7 the devs wont lose money you have no evidence of this
you think devs only make money in afk chamber
they do from premium players
afk chamber is made to get premium players in those players can still play the normal modes and they still make money afk chamber its just there so people feel an incentive to stay in longer
Exactly
They stay longer and the devs make more money
like theres no difference between someone with premium doing a tinytask recording doing infinite and someone with premium in afk chamber
same money
If theres 2x speed people wont even bother afk chamber and it would half the time of everything, their premium payout would lose so much profit
there is
Do u think every premium player is on pc?
if you make things easier to get then people would leave and play other games
but 🥭 community still makes devs money cuz people stay in game longer grinding. and since it doesnt require the person to be on they legit can stay longer than they would grinding normally
Their premium payouts isnt only m@cro players
They would recieve the same from m@cro users but not from normal players
the m@cro "problem" its not a problem its a solution to the game you gotta understand not everyone got time for everything in the game
is a problem for the devs
how
If its not a problem then why do they add a considerable amount of anti m@cri prevention
cuz they are dumb
do you really think they added challenge cap and gamemodes like cid raid and ex stages for no reason
Also they literally refuse to add auto upgrade because of mcros
bro m@cros made the dandadan update more bearable they gotta know this by now
you have to know this
WE do but you think the devs think the same
and somehow the m@cros still presist without it so who cares
Literally just dont play the game if ur gonna mcro, u cant get any satisfaction
The players who want auto upgrade for stuff aside from mcros
You excuse is "well ppl mcro already so it doesnt matter"
2x speed and auto upgrade would benefit 🥭 users more than normal players
2x speed would make the 🥭 more effective by doing stages twice as fast which would end with people getting a lot of stuff without doing anything
I play genshin impact I play deltarune I play dmc4 I play elden ring. these games I spend HOURS on I like playing games but av its legit just drop unit > upgrade unit > wait till win > and thats it.
theres nothing wrong with this btw
Then don't play if its not enjoyable?
but thats just the limit
And mcros take out every single aspect of the game
if the player gets the shit fast then they will leave the game faster
look at the dbz latest upd
Literally you cant even get the satisfaction
Exactly
With 2x speed so many people will quit updates so much quicker than ppl already do
most people complained about how easy was to get goku evo
does it makes the player experience better? yea
does it makes them play the game longer? No
The only ppl who want 2x speed r the ppl who don't wanna play the game
lemme make a chart
non m@cro player advantages: no 2x speed, manual grind, no auto upgrade cuz manual.
m@cro player advantages: doing everything without even being on keyboard
do you see whos the real disadvantaged here
see
🥀
Ur proving my point more
M@cro players dont even play the game
its the god father of roblox tds games
yeah no crap who would want to do a stage a million times for fun
lol
Also bloons has 2x speed because it goes to way higher waves and lasts way longer
you comparing diamond with coal
the diamond ofc being btd
Rs
you made a good point here, add 2x speed to cut time fr
The longest it takes for a av run is 20 mins (and dungeon)
devs want people to stay in game longer for easy money
bro yall are like this but the devs dont make millions (the game def does) but thousands
only one game is similar to it
the other tds in roblox have nothing close to it other than the genre
Also als has 3x speed because the grinds r way more annoying
when those devs left physeph talked about it and said they made like 20k a month
im not trying to defend them
im trying to say why they are against it 🥀
the last jjk map was a nightmare to grind
Rmb roblox taxes 30 percent, the r0bux to money ratio is HORRID, and they have to distribute profits
I sold all my als units, best decision ever
its 20k usd a month with the tax then
is that not like alot of money
this wasnt even an owner cut just helpers and planners
2x speed would easily cut that down to around a good 15-17.5k
I dont care, the devs care
Im explaining why the devs wont add it
ngl
most of that money end on paying modelers after looking the new models
man I would kill to make 15k a month
Then spend a good few years learning programming and work for a huge successful roblox game
its like that south park episode about piracy showing how millionaires wont be able to afford a new private jet this month
Js bc they have a lot of money doesnt make they would purposely lower their profits
your the only one who cares
I dont, the devs do.
🥀
you know what
add 2x speed but make it cost robux
bad
Thats fsir
Fair
are you stupid
But honestly it should be more than shiny hunter
i use vsjw
ofc im stupid
"Yes they make a lot money so they shouldnt care if they make less money"
they should focus on making peak updates then
make 2x speed only for one match like astd did
maybe the less money will make them hungry and improve the game
wym one match
Roblox is literally the site for money hungry games 🥀
astd had 2x for everything
but it was paid only before and only for one match
well you prolly didnt play for long then
If they add 2x speed it should cost like 400 gems per match
3x and 4x were paid
i did
400 isnt a lot and its not to small
shutup man
i known but at first 2x speed was pay only
10x speed but it cost 100k robux and last for 1 match
ur saying this like ur a dev... wait a minute is this why your defending their pockets? it was ur pockets all along!!
shocking

Yes im a dev
100%
high admin confirms it
Never denied they make 20k a month
well I've argued all I can gbye
if devs cared about m@cros that much what I'd do is add things like auto complete tickets, 2x speed and auto upgrade, but completely police and outlaw m@cros. but they dont cuz they are benefitting from people using them any way
2x and auto upgrade aren't happening lmao
2x might happen, down the road. Way down. Best you'll get
2x speed isnt even that bad imo yeah stuff would be way easier but since how repetitive av is i wouldnt mind
i thought some time ago they made an announcement that itll never happen
we should ask for auto play
just imagine doing 200 runs for yamamoto🥴
nerf rimuru please
i don't want him to be meta 🙏🏼
It's too late

what is this.
like i dont think we need 2x
but maybe increasing the speed of the game, 1.15x
i can see that
its lowkey funny ngl i know everyone would love 2x speed but yall know its gonna be way 2 op
yep
reasonable
2x would be too good 1 portal would take like 3 minutes. Bad idea
Yea well, it would cut in half the amount u have to do for the average kaguya
whats so bad about that yes it would be way 2 good but there is nothing bad about that
its bad that its to good
Dawg having kaguya wouldn't even feel special even having shiny rimuru wouldn't be special. Same thing with vsjw
Bro thinks that having vanguards make you special
having kaguya doesnt feel special unless u have monarch on her
shes horrid w out monarch
She's not though?
she is for me
why do people even mecro for them then if it wont feel special because they didnt sit there on their pc for hours
she doesnt even make it on my main team with ethereal
Nah, shes pretty decent or at least for amount of units that uses meter
Meter units, literal global 45% buff if you just cycle sand/ice
she just feels so underwhelming
i cant see any case that id user her without monarch unless its a summer portal
Well idk about you but im on console so i can't Mec
does that mean vsjw is being buffed by 45% too
No?
Yes
How does it work?
Huh
fym no its a global buff
Interesting
wouldnt really feel special either if u stayed in afk chamber too id assume
if ice was before sand, you buff everyone on the map by 30%
fire dom buffs ice dom and ice dom buffs sand dom
And if sand was before ice, the next dimension's buff is increased by half
vergil and dante too or??
So you just manually do ice/sand and ignore fire
Yep
if so kaguya actually pretty broken
They aren't swap meters so
Wait
They don't really need kaguya tho
they build meter fast enough on their own
the 2% ain't much to them
Kaguya is a 1 in 20k. Even with afk chamber you ain't getting her anytime soon unless you get very lucky
How much do they take with, idk, a 100% fam
the kaguya meter buff seems like its mainly for vsjw and byeken
yes and because of that people will rely on doing portals either with mecro or just sit there and doing them manually imagine how much better it would be if we had 2x speed
im not saying we should have it
im saying 2x speed isnt bad
its just if her dmg isnt that good then id rather js use cid and be able to build up around 30m dmg of nuke in like 10 mins
would make the game way more enjoyable
Okay ngl 2x would be good but. A noob well genuinely reach endgame level in just a week bro. Game gonna get boring real fast
What u consider endgame?
Cause i think, u can progress decentky fast
2x would NOT get u endgame in a week
imo end game is all ur units being meta with their respectful trait
2x is bad to add, but yall overreacting how fast progression is
shes overrated
endgame is when u absolutely finished everything which i doubt a newbie could do in a week
she not that special
THANK U
Having vsjw and multiple good meta units and being able to solo most stufd
basically she isnt needed but would be nice to have sometimes
thats midgame
2x speed is just gonna make the game more enjoyable
Idk if enjoyable, but more tolerable
only reason yall x this is because of mecro
what
true ngl
i personally x it because 5 minutes a stage and 8 mins a portal really isnt that badc
Like, i feel bad for that mf that does the cid raid over and over bc he has terrible rng with the birb
Not everyone mecros. Just gonna ruin the fun in the grind
If that guy even exist
until u would have to do them hundreds of times
which wont even add up to 5 hours majority of the time
Is birb even worth the amount of time to get
YES
Ofc
a good birb familiar can break a unit
dont think people really enjoy grinding ive seen many complain about the vsjw 50 ant king kills and the 200 pity stuff id say having 2x speed would help
It could be even better than solar
not everyone yes, but the majority does
you take into account the majority
True
it is
oh no you have to do 50 ant kills to get the most versatile and broken unit in the game
Good. I would grind but i can't play roblox rn💔
ppl who complain abt that part js dont understand how broken vsjw truly is
so what if he is broken it doesnt mean people wont ejoy the grind
Well for vsjw i got the bugged key so i skipped it ngl. I can't really say anything about this
never said it was enjoyable
people quitting this game because of how tedious and slow the grind is most of the time
correct
ppl like that js dont enjoy td games
i personally take breaks because of how trait reliant some units r
like aizen, yhwach, gogeta, kaguya
Just get rimuru
Yeah thats true
I liked that vsjw doesnt need monarch to be good
to focused on tryna get kaguya monarfch so shes actually useful to me
Yeah but if you got bad luck rimuru is the unit. Just need blitz and his good
as good as rimuru is he aint helping u a ton
is it really worth it to get monarch on her
doubt he would make it on my team tbh
shes 1 placement
my current team is vsjw mon, cid mon, gogeta mon, and byeken deadeye.
byeken is changed a lot depending on what i do
Doesn't he do like 54k full aoe and 4 placement? Plus that passive of his
yes but is she that good that u want monarch on her
yes
id say she more of a support to me
better than gogeta with monarch
with monarch and maxed passive she will have like 70k dps
plus her nuke
yeah she isnt that crazy dps wise she has avreage dps but good support
And for nukes u have sjw
all nukes are horrid the only one good is cid
cids broken even in like 8 minute gamemodes bro
well if u have monarch
ik ive spent like 2k rr on him so far soon ill get to pity
actually i think i made a thing that explains cids nuke gimme a sec'
It takes 9:32 for cids passive to max out, once that happens he does 30,360,000 with his nuke. After the 9:32 point he gains 26,538 damage towards his nuke every second with no limit.
(Monarch, all z+.)
(Good black spirit familiar)
Dang how😭
i got lucky w my cid, took 9 rr
ye
my summon luck is so good aside from gem banner
300k presents for gogeta, 150k flowers for kaguya, 800k gems (20k summons) and no alucard
meh my luck have been horrible everywhere the only time i actually was lucky was in update 5 tbh
my luck is horrid majority of the time but ill have random spurts of luck
took me like 9m+ for gogeta 1.6m for alu and i still havent gotten kaguya and idk if i want to tbh
same here lmao
tbh u can make an amazing team without kaguya
cant really think of any rn
vsjw, gogeta, cid, aizen
3/4 r monarch reliant sadly
when my suggestion cd ends im gonna make a post abt monarch reliant units
oh i read that wrong i thought u said that u could make some good teams with kaguya
Title: Stop making monarch reliant units.
msg: Title explains everything, when i got gogeta i was so happy but i ended up getting extremely dissapointed at the low dps, same thing happened to me with kaguya, it just doesnt feel rewarding after getting a vanguard unit because then you have to spend all your rr trying to get monarch just for the unit to be good, kaguya is terrible without monarch. Another issue i have with it is that you cant use both farms if you want 100% boost unless you use kaguya as a dps which means you cant even use 2 farms unless you pull kaguya AND get monarch because she cant solo any of the portals without monarch.
i mean thats just how it is
waiting an extra 2 minutes is NOT going to kill bro 😭 ✌️
stop reacting mf
before i get angry
Thats mostly if ur only gonna play for a bit like 5 stages or smt
x2 speed too unbalanced for the structure of av
Agree
if we add 0.03 traits and 0.1 stage drop units then go ahead and add 3x speed but rn we dont need it
tbh if there wasnt any mecro issues 2x speed wouldnt be that bad
and hopefully we wont ever
I get where people come from when they say they want 2x speed
its mainly cuz of stuff like portals and stages you have to do A LOT
wow a TD game has a tedious and annoying grind, who wouldve expected
maybe if there was some way to unlock it after doing it 50+ times?
again not saying i want 2x just thinking how it could be implemented
thanks for the helpful feedback lol
np my king
🤝
looking at this
peak human interactions
people who afk all day be like
cuz u crave progression and it feels rewarding afterwards
progression is lowk like fent
oh i used to grind a hell ton of av back then
addicting
just take a break atp
the most youll miss out on is a couple units that will be outclasses in a month
probably thats what im gonna do
i was the same way with astd and aa dw
i took a break for a good few mmonths and when i came back in the bleach upd my deadeye tengen was still able to solo majority of things
cant relate lol
idk about proggression maybe the game itself would be tho
av is fent
fent is av
ppl only play td because the progression and the feeling of the reward after such a tedious grind brings out dopamine
if you really wanna try something new
try out like awtd or somethin, not EXTREMELY different but maybe you just need a change of pace
or even astd
ill js grind dragon city till av makes a good upd where the best unit isnt monarch reliant
i play av bc i like collecting things i find cool. i dont care about the rewarding part
just get a game you can casually play
thats how i am with als and awtd
good point
i aint taking a break from av because of how boring the grind it im doing it because there is literally nothing to do other than inf lb or grinding for kaguya rn for me
pretty much what i do with every atd lol
i only play when I see something I want
Played ALS, got Erza evo
havent touched the game since
once i get monarch on kaguya i aint touchin this game for a while
you say that like its an easy feat lol
grinding for monarch on gogeta killed me
what is this peak suggestion 🗣️
15 solars, 9 deadeyes, 10 eth
I still have 0 monarchs
litteraly the mostr denied suggestion oat
shit is despressing
is it tho
i got all of this on gogeta before monarhch
i got my first at lvl 50 and it was gojo
IMO the reroll grind needs to be optimized to only a few gamemodes that ARE REPEATABLE WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT 30 MIN
crazy how level 30s got monarchs now
lvl 97 and I still have none
oh ur lucky
unless ur a mecro warrior ts is depressing
meta since the 90s
got my first one at 144 dw
that does not give me confidence
my bad
its okay lol
does this
sure
its like telling sm1 with cancer "if it feels better my friend died to cancer, your still alive"
this pic is old im lvl 190 now
no this just makes me sad
that would actually feel kinda motivating that u cant just give up
since that picture ive gotten shiny yhwach and goku monarch
you cant get to lvl 150+ no mecro or inf lb
u can easily tbh
easy but a bit time consuming
go on then
Just make half hourly rerolls their own gamemode that you dont have to wait half an hour for
during 2x xp js grind a few legend staged of the bleach one with compulsary
it gives like 1.2k xp every 5 mins]
do the math urself
prolly more near 1.5k or so
2x xp has no effect when youre level 160 and above
and ant dungeons gives like 2 or 3k i forgot
140*
that boss gives u around 20 xp per kill 40 on 2x weekend and at around lvl 150 u need close to 12k xp per level
does that sound easy
ye
1hr and a half per level and js do like an hour or 2 a day every 2x weekend
cuz the game would be a lot better if they just fixed the rr grind
but they wont cuz they want to both keep players playing a long time and make you debate wheather you wanna spend money for it
if youre level 50 you cant be talking about how easy it is to get to lvl 150
no mecro
when did i say im lvl 50
when
thats true
would be way better if we didnt even have traits in the first place
quote me rn
send a ss of your level
1065
likely below lvl 100 😭
105
people like traits for some reason
they say it "keeps people grinding for something"
thats still no where near 150 either
im sad ASTD X gonna have traits
id say gambling addiction
bc i dont xp grind
mhm
i know one guy that manuals this game 24/7 on mobile
also if its 12k xp per lvl at lvl 15 that isnt bad considering 1 stage takes 5 mins for 1.2k xo
sounds awful
1.2k xp per stage is not true at all
champions compulsary
Childs like traits gamble, we may not but are just a minority in the end
300 per stage that is
i was gettin 1.2
can we get back on topic to this amazing and fulfilling suggestion
maybe without vip
add 2x 🗣️
its been denied 50+ times
would love 2x
prolly
op prolly muted this channel tbh
av devs ill clear out my whole inv and start over if yall add 2x speed❤️
all u big bro
this is the ONLY way I could see it somehow get added in the future
but even this is a stretch
ye
i think they wouldnt due to those dirty little m words
yeah prob
Portals are pmo
i will never understand the mfs hungry for shinies
I cant get a good grind cuz 99% people are just leeching
i understand if u want it n all but after my 3rd yhwach im not doin allat
tbh its easier to server hop and ask in chat
MVP rewards are both amazing and AWFUL
escape the matrix become a shiny hunter
awful in what way?
i could take another ss of the other half but you get the point
causes leeching to flood channels
leechers are more prevelent than ever
use the leechers then
I cant solo bruh
you guys asked for this btw
they are a tool
so become a leecher
Wheres the shinies? All i see is rerolls\
who is you guys
who is you guys
what do you mean
some make this suggestion
thats another problem
if I wanted to leech I cant cuz their are hundreds of them lol
each shiny is 5 rr in my eyes
thousands
yuck
yuckkk
normalizing a mythic+ shiny is yuck
unless its a dupe shiny
yuckkk
#「📊」game-polls use ctrl + f
who said thats us
i only unshiny summon units unless its like alucard or sumnj
I prob didnt even vote on it lol
ok? i didnt vote so dont speak to me like i did mutt
no bro WE are keeping all shinies that are mythic and above
normalising ugly shines and keeping the good ones is the only way
the COMMUNITY wanted it back then
us individually are not wanting it NOW
if you're a collecter then all shinies matter
only things i dont unshiny is stuff obtained from stages
shiny Diavolo/
theres fs some unob shinies u dont have
not really thats only if u wanna flex them
ik
13 million wisps no normal diavolo
thats why i stopped playing after that update lol
Only got back in during Dragon Ball update
i didnt play that upd cuz i hate dandadan
same
i played until the end but i wasnt rewarded from my loyalty to the dead game
for me it was like halfway through the bleach
after i got igris and tengen i quit till upd 4.5
youre bugging
js didnt feel rewarding to me at the time
av will never die
plus i was forced to play on mobile since console wasnt added
i say as the player count drops to aa numbers
people said that about aa
be carefu
aa died cuz of greed
but aa was awful
ive been a day 1 aa hater forever
no we all knew aa was gonna die
you cant possibly enjoy 1 bit models and in game icons
you can go back into any logs I had
I probably never once said a positive thing about aa
thats what aa fans also said
aa was ran on nostalgia
cuz astd is peak
we ALL hyped for astdx
man that trailer brings back memories
but im intruged
no we are ALL hyped
its alright my summer is packed too
stupid showers and outside time
i hate it all 😡
SETRO DROP TYPE SOUL
peroxide better
I NEED THE FEELING OF POPPING LIGHT SEGUNDA ON A GRADE 1 QUINCY]
type soul battlegrounds exists
this should be bannable
get hos in peroxide and then tell me type soul is the hardest bleach game
you legit can not
doesnt give me the feeling of popping segunda on a trainee quincy
holy
type soul is ez asl
what game
grow a garden
chill 💔
i hop on it every time my crafting is done or something good is in stock
all u do is wait
first day f update are only times i avidly play
u litteraly wait just so you can wait longer
I wish roblox actually took care of bots, then a lot of fraud games in the page would be compromised
brookhaven prime example
hate ts stupid game why is it at 500k ccu
so poorly made as well
in end game dont u wait for a stock just to wait for it to grow just to wait for mutationhs
u litteraly wait to get something just so u can wait longer
you have to take into account the different craftables and end game gears now as well
same with the craft-exclusive eggs and seed packs
i admit its not the funnest but it drives your dopamine every once in a while
also isnt their gambling system psx level?
ah so its js a dopamine game
makes sense
i dont get this community fr
yall voted for it
yall were ifne with it
and now its a problem
make up yall mind fr
voted for what?
from screenshots i saw, gog has similar robux gamblimg to psx
I said its both good and bad chill my man
this is 100% ragebaitr
and it worked for a second
lowk
mvp rewards
the robux options are only for really rich people
only negative thing is it js encouraged leechers
leechers are just tools
real
its js irratating when ur early game and want to find an actually team, doesnt bother me now tho
i still rmb how dissapointing rengoku wasd
i got him js for him to be worst than tenge
rengoku was top dps when he came out
he didnt even make my team
tengen was better
only below 4-5 units
my upd 0.5 team was sjw, cha in, igris, tengen, both farms
i didnt play the jjk upd so i wouldnt know
Thats update 1, but yes he was discussed as the highests dps by its time
rengoku + obito + jogo was the burning goats
after upd 0.5 i stopped playin till bleach upd
i rmb i wanted to get obito but i was drained
Obito was buns after his multi burn nerf
i didnt even know obito ever got nerfed
if you dont have shiny haruka then you arent og
real, Burn was broken back then
i got haruka but i didnt get shiny
some guy experienced a bug and got two haruka rin
tbh i unshiny all bp units
there was no shiny haruka 
o
That didnt exist mf
i dont rmb ts gng
i get to many shiny sakuras
fs my most obtained shiny
so much rr
i make a good 40 rr off of shiny sakuras
what sakuras are you talking about
we all shiny hunting kaguya
no we
we all want shiny kaguya
we will all eat sleep and repeat in our gaming chairs
until shiny kaguya
i want it but i aint grindin for it
we bro us
because theres no reason besides dopamine
2x would NOT matter in the long run, the game would scale for it
they lowk needa make the shops reset after a month or so
if it took 25 stages without 2x, once they add 2x it'll be like 40 or even more, why would they keep the grind the same if they make the game much faster
lowk add 2x but make everything take 2x as many waves
give me a game example
the chances are fucking atrocious
because the game knows you can open 99 eggs at once
when 2x is added theyll js make the grinds more tedious than they currently are
IF
not when
no it aint happening
eh true
why would they want to making m@croing worse then
the same thing can be applied to av easily
what r u talking about
if they add 2x but js make everything 2x longer it has 0 effect on the game
they should do that
we can not resort to the brandon hypnosis tactics
this is js a chat room atp
if they make it more tedious of a grind to balance then it would really only benefit the m@cro players and the 2x speed buff wouldve meant nothing for the manual player
2x will only be added on one condition and one only
it wouldnt benefit or harm anyone
we making up fake scenarios\
it wouldnt matter for anyone
real
if the boss buys this game then there will be 2x potentially 3x
only way its ever happening
it would benefit the m@cro community, it would make the manual player realize his time is important and switch to m@cros
this is ragebait
ye, and if that happens i js wont play, grinds would be to short to feel rewarding
close the suggestion
in what way? its the same amount of time but just with 2x time
without 2x it was, for example, 10 minutes for 1 raid
everything would litteraly just take the same amount of time
if that happens then we ALL moving to astdx
yes WE
they add 2x but make the raid 20 minutes
what
but because of 2x its 10 minutes
so basically, notying changes
why wouldnt they scale the content for 2x
astd never done this
to satisy you dopamine feins
als
als?
because its not the same game as av
dont play it sadly
als has 2x and 3x but the grinds r longer than av making up for the 2x
yeah 2x is the normal speed and it scales for 2-3x
not really the matches in als are as low as 2 minutes
the grind makes up for it
the amount of stages
well its the devs fault then
we want 2x speed with no scaling then
kinda, kinda not
and in exchange it requires a lot more stuff to do
either way you like or dislike this post
THEY WILL NEVER ADD 2X SPEED
yep
i mean if you compare als to av pity then you can realize there is no where near as much grinding needed
bruh
i got all godlies in that game in 3 days
no
the units from stages are rarely good anyways
asking chat gpt without dipping its toes in the setting is not a way
so you want this game to be a zombie mecro farm?
this dude is an idiot
😭
bro dandadan raid is 30 minutes 2x speed makes it 15 your saying theyd make it normally 60 minutes and the 2x speed would be 30
anime mecro simulator
it doesnt save time in the long run because the game scales for 2x
its a grinding game not just a tower defense where your goal is just to clear the map
the game WILL scale for 2x
its not me asking chatgpt I put my arguements in and it dictates where I might be lacking in reasoning
dude this robot doesnt understand what its talking about
i can easily tell him what i mean and he'll change his mind lmao
ok
do it
give me text
to put
"if 2x speed will benefit mecro players more, then everyone should mecro!!
"
yeah okay lmaooo
i hate when ppl use "well m@croers have it easy" as an argument, m@croers dont even play the game
thats why they have it easy
js dont play the game then?
we are farming engagement
they dont have to deal with tedium of the normal player
js playm sumn else
with the ragebaiter
not a good strategy
u want 2x speed go play als
u gonna give me text
eh all this talk just for elden ring nightreign to be 50x better than av
for a whopping 3x speed!! 
dude what am i to you, an ai which generates text in 1 minute?
let me type jesus christ
multimillion dollar game better than roblox game
who
bro its crazt how roblox invited a dev who makes dating games to the new roblox event
hes a lit pred
they fucking what
pred attracts more pred which makes more money for roblox
someone who makes roblox dating games
roblox is a stupid company that doesnt care about its players
cycle of money bro
they litteraly terminated his account, then unbanned him, then invited him to the event
because they realized he can make more money for them
it caused like 50+ devs to drop out the event
yep
when half the players there r preds
you know how rich these peds are these days
at the end of the day roblox is always a platform that exists for dopamine, no one truly enjoys the games
hop on steal an anime boss is about to spawn
out of the 700 or 800 messages in here, like 200 relate to the topic
dawg
my account is stayin put in that afk chamber
im gonna send 1 point by 1
- (In what way if the game scales for 2x? It wouldn't change anything in the long run because the game will start scaling for this speed, making, for example, a 10 minute stage, a 20 minute stage but because of 2x its basically the same 10 minutes it previously was)
- (in what way? what argument even is this? are you saying that anyone who plays with hands in any tower defense is being punished? like what even the thought process here? i'd like you to elaborate because i do not understand)
There are some good games but i have to hop on games like "better catalog" which is just an enhanced roblox front page to find them
Says a lot about how good games in this platform sink
this is getting flagged but its for 2nd point too
- (which would be true for a non-grindy game i suppose, but in this case we talk about a gacha-grinding game, why would it make sense for them to not scale the game for 2x times? just so people can clear the update in what, 5 hours? It would obviously scale for its speed and in the end it wouldnt matter to anyone because the grind will again, SCALE!!!)
prolly cuz of the word sell or botting
all of this completely changed gpts mind
which again, contributes to my point of chat gpt being unreliant in most cases
he can argue back and you say no thats not true
and he will be like
oh yeha you are completely right! i totally understand where you're coming from
ima keep it a buck gng hes probaly sitting back giggling knowin you typed out allat over some ragebait
i mean, it didnt take me ages, i can spare a couple of minutes of my day
this isnt really ragebait i feel like
true that
im just makign sure more people understand that 2x in this game's case wouldnt help at all
alot of people are asking for 2x but do not understand what comes with it
2x is js a dopamine thing tbh
yeah exactly
the argument is, the manual player always loses and tedium leads to the creation of m@cros fueling the fire, but not trying to stop it at the root is creating more problems (not ai)
I'll send the answer for 1 and 2
dude 2x would not change that
the atd genre is fundementally fucked
it would
2x would js encourage m@cros more imo
not MIGHT, they WILL
whatt the fuck? not scaling for automoation? of the fucking course
what is it even saying do you even read
am i not understanding this
does it expect devs to scale for marco
it doesnt understand the concept of scaling, read the 3rd point it made
you did say they'd scale for 2x speed so why not kill m@cro
as i previously said, the genre is fundementally fucked
its brainrot
grindy brainrot
so why arent you on my side
because 2x will not change anything
it will scale because its BRAINROT
it will not make 10 minut stages 5 minutes
even if they do
they'll make it up in terms of the amount of stages you need to do
are you deadass thinking that there would be no scaling?
you are naive then
almost every game does that or initially made with this in mind
I'll send ur second point
with 2x i mean
bloons was THOUGHT OF with 2x in mind
and you have to do like what
80 rounds?
for hard difficulty which is well
the one you will be playing on if you are not buns
this is an insanely stupid point do you not understand
they are being punished either way
what reason is there
to add 2x
if it makes mrco better
i think im missing the plot completely
it says the normal players dont have avenues to make the feel grind better but a m@croer can anything and not feel the tedious grind
this just proved that 2x would be worse
this is the case with 2x too
its the case with every game on earth
lets imagine lost ark
an mmorpg
you can use robots
to grind gold for you
any other game
ok
csgo you can afk in deathmatches
to get xp
for medals
this is not this games fault
automation is obviously better than manual play
btd6 bans marco
if it wasnt for that i promise you broskinson, people would marco the shit out of it
ok
there's no way to get rid of marco besides banning it completely
which is unrealistic
so was the ai right by saying devs not taking action against m@cros prolly means they wont touch 2x speed scaling
nope
two completely different things
devs cabt so anything about marco
if they make the grind easier, it will benefit marco even more
okay lets maybe say instead of 2x speed players can grind for something like a fast ticket that auto does a stage for u
they have no way of detecting it either
making things random for example idk
do you remember what this community can do
the only fix i can think off is make a button appear anywhere randomly on the map ur playing where u can press it to enable 2x speed im pretty sure mecros cant mecro that
jon technique
the current way people got around the random camera movement is by using unit camera they could remove that
this would just be tedious 😭
they can do something to ease it but marco will not go away
why bash m@cros btw, were you around in upd 2.0 dandadan
what else do u suggest
suggest for what
crazy mental gymnastics right there
what would 2x change for m@cro users even
i dont know what u guys were talking about
fuga
2x speed= get rewards faster meaning ppl who 🥭 would get rewards faster
I still cant believe claytaki is still a dev
then content would be scaled to 2x speed
thats what i replied to basically just make a button that appears somewhere randomly its tedious but better than grinding for hours without mecro
you completely miss the point too
if theres a tedious mechanic its just unnecessary
like handcuffs
in cid raid
yeah i just saw yall talking and replied
okay lets see the current times for modes, raids 8-15 minutes, stage for tower is basically story mode so 5-6 minutes, what other modes can be added to be scaled up now
2x speed can help infinite leaderboard grinders
longer wave modes
like what
raid, br
Feel like 2x speed should only be for long game modes like boss rush/dungeons/infinite that’s 100% reasonable
whats br
boss rush
rather than 2x just make content take less time
There def gonna release a game mode that takes 40 minutes in the future
actually having 2x would unironically be good for the game bc units that are made for inf or have passives that take a while to stack/max would finally be usable in normal gamemodes
I will
crash
out
dandadan was so boring I grind like 3 hours a day
I js want 2x speed for long game modes that’s really it
it was a chill grind tho
then the first wave of 🥭 hit and it felt like dopamine to me I enjoyed the update suddenly
(didnt get diavolo with 3 million wisps)
not really
Idk about you guys but I have really bad adhd
They should js at 10x speed ngl
like I gotta look at something else or move around
it was for me atleast just watching some yt or tik tok while waiting for the cards to appear wasnt that bad
sucked ass
what even is adhd
You could complete all the legend stages/story mode before you get 20 beru kills btw
aa did what av did with a 45 minute stage
U move a lot
people gave me that same advice
Or u get bored fast
cant focus
i lowk js binge an anime while grinding
playing peak gbye
@fierce elm I get what u mean now that I've played astd x
oh, im glad you do now
buns game btw
not buns just mid
