Some stuff you devs can learn from Als (2 Week player)

[quick garden]

i can send u the link btw to confirm his account

[molten obsidian]

send on dms asap

damn this shit is real goddamn

told u so

[quick garden]

u didnt tell me nun 😭

[languid yew]

ALS is better at being a casino, that’s why there’s more players

[placid torrent]

"Of all time" is a lie

But yeah it is bigger than fortnite

Atm

For a brief window

The bots truly are working overtime

[lapis tide]

Slop vs actually gameplay

[molten obsidian]

and obv at being the more fun experience 😏

[lapis tide]

Ain’t no way we comparing the two

[placid torrent]

Av is way more casino like

That's just an invalid point

[lapis tide]

Does he know?

[molten obsidian]

deadass welcome to 2025

[placid torrent]

Yes, i do know

Do you?

When was the last time you all played als

Like legit

[quick garden]

als is the most f2p td game on roblox u disagree pull up to the ring and fight me there

[lapis tide]

Not u saying av is a casino when Al’s is a thing

Fucking smoking high gas

[molten obsidian]

where do u need to spend money in als bro

everything is abundant in supply

[placid torrent]

Yeah i am. I can get 5k rrs a week in one of those

[languid yew]

People who like gambling in these types of games will play ALS because that game has the better slot machines

[molten obsidian]

ur not needing to spend even 4 cents

[lapis tide]

Yet ppl do

And it is there

[placid torrent]

Yeah im legit fully f2p in als lmao

[lapis tide]

Just cuz YOU don’t spent it

[placid torrent]

I spend money on av

[lapis tide]

Don’t mean the fucking prices aren’t there

[quick garden]

what typpa argument is that

[lapis tide]

Duh shit isn’t given to you out ya ass

Yall are literally comparing slop to actual gameplay

[placid torrent]

What a dogshit argument

[quick garden]

in av u need to sepnd money on rrs cause they arent freely avaiable and u can run out easily and time consuming to farm

[lapis tide]

Very valid

[placid torrent]

Youre arguing about a game you dont fucking play

[languid yew]

Just don’t fall for FOMO, it’s that easy lmao

[quick garden]

while in als u dont need to spend a dime

[placid torrent]

💀

[lapis tide]

Yo dumbass I play that nonsense and it don’t deserve it honestly

The game is generally slop

[quick garden]

not in av but in als 100%

[lapis tide]

Ain’t no way u think it isn’t

[molten obsidian]

its slop but its performing more numbers then this game

🤣

[placid torrent]

What makes av less slop lmfao the maps that you pay so much attention to, or the vfx you have on consistent

[lapis tide]

That’s how Roblox is

[placid torrent]

Or the gamemodes 90% of the community dislikes

[lapis tide]

Bloc fruits is slop but it has more players than gpo

[polar night]

explain why grow a garden has 2m ccu on a bad day

then

[molten obsidian]

because they take fucking years to update

[placid torrent]

Or the units that need an autoclicker to be used

Or the 500 bugs

What makes av less slop please enlighten me

[molten obsidian]

constant updates and requires minimal braincells to play
any device can run it ez

[lapis tide]

The actually fucking attention that is put into making these units?????
Bro do u even play als??? Cuz ain’t no way we are deadass comparing slop and actually game play

[polar night]

ok, als is the same.. why is that considered slop to you then?

[molten obsidian]

the quality of the models etc?

[polar night]

etc like what

[molten obsidian]

the quality is lower compared to other games

[lapis tide]

Ofc it’s gonna take years dumbass Als don’t have to do much???? Like literally

[placid torrent]

"Attention put into units" i dont fucking care lmao why would i when the unit needs more attention than a newborn

[polar night]

also the models arent the generally lacking aspect of the game

[molten obsidian]

unit vfx map quality

[placid torrent]

What a dumbass argument

[polar night]

your argument is just so weak

[lapis tide]

Yep this is how ik ur fucking just brain dead and just want a game that u can just play for “fun” u don’t have an opinion when comparing games

[placid torrent]

I sure do love clicking every 6.3 seconds with lfelt, very fun

[polar night]

that same map quality and unit vfx is what allows them to drop an update with 3+ characters every week?

are you genuinely dumb on purpose

[molten obsidian]

yeah but effort still goes into creating those units
if av did hire more devs im sure they would be more capable of this

[polar night]

first you deny the fact that gag had 16m+ ccu without any research whatsoever

then you completely contradict yourself

[molten obsidian]

pretty sure they buy their maps

[polar night]

2 seconds later

[placid torrent]

Oh no the man with the objective opinion has passed his judgement, whatever will i do

Fucking clown

[molten obsidian]

nuh uh im smart

er

[polar night]

here comes the ASSUMPTIONS!!!!

LOL

[placid torrent]

🥀

[languid yew]

You’re.. actually using shotgun loop?

[molten obsidian]

whos assuming dawg

[polar night]

Youre gonna say facebook is a bad source of information then you believe anything anyone says about als

its insane 😭

[placid torrent]

Als outsources their maps this is not new info

[polar night]

outsourcing is not the same as stealing

[placid torrent]

Maps are still bad

[molten obsidian]

where did i say its a bad source of information lol
show me the picture

[polar night]

read what i said above

.

LOL

[molten obsidian]

nah als is peak but i do agree its slope when u compare. it to games like this

[languid yew]

So they’re… commissioning people to make maps for them?

[polar night]

do you have short term memory loss

or sum

[waxen basalt]

And yeh av have op enemies that you need special units to counter like I hate ts

[molten obsidian]

yeah where are the words over there i only see "no who uses facebook like genuienly i aint buying face book info"
i didnt say bad source

[placid torrent]

Youre not appreciating the dev's creativity hard enough bruh

[molten obsidian]

time to go to sleep long ass day

[polar night]

you are inferring that..?

[placid torrent]

You dont like being unable to use 95% of units in db maps?

[waxen basalt]

Sorry but I like the basic way.

[molten obsidian]

nope

[polar night]

you are literally saying

[waxen basalt]

Their Regen enemies are hella op

Like wtf

[polar night]

im not buying facebook info

[placid torrent]

You dont like being cuffed half the game in cid raid?

[polar night]

what does that say about your views twoards facebook?

[molten obsidian]

yup

[polar night]

.

[waxen basalt]

Without a bleed or a unit that has DMG more than their hp they're unkillable

[molten obsidian]

i aint buying it cause i dont want to

[polar night]

ohhh w argument ok

[languid yew]

They legit need a unit like Aladdin that’s permanently obtainable

[polar night]

sorry for debating with you

[molten obsidian]

finally u understand

its cool

[polar night]

clealy you have logic behind your answers

[molten obsidian]

yes

[placid torrent]

Tbh facebook, and basically all social media, is 99% lies.

But gag hitting 16m isnt a surprise

Goes up 4m every update at this point

God knows whats happening with that

[waxen basalt]

How did you guys end up talking about fb?

[languid yew]

There’s no way the player count grew naturally

[placid torrent]

I mean yeah

Its an insane number of bots

But its a lot of 11 year olds too lol

[languid yew]

oh definitely

[lapis tide]

The same idiot saying Als is better because of players

We generally know when a game is slop

And what is well made

Many games on Roblox are fucking slop

With lil to no passion behind their work

Perfect example

Blox fruits has 200k players
While gpo has 10k

We all know which is the better game

And is well developed game which is gpo

Maybe not rn cuz gpo is kinda eh

[atomic venture]

Kinda obvious tho

The good games arent at the front page

90% of the time

[lapis tide]

Yea ofc it is yet we got idiots comparing av with Als

Don’t get me wrong Als have improved

From what it was

But don’t compare slop to greatness

Av literally changed the game

Als is in its own space

And that’s it

It has more updates cuz they don’t have to stress abt vfx and game play

Als literally copied everything abt av

So tell me why the fuck are we comparing slop to greatness

Dumbass talking “things u need to learn from Als”

🤓

Be the same ppl that was glazing AA re release thinking they was gonna change

I rlly wonder how yall hold a convo irl when ur actually fucking brain dead

And please don’t tell me anything abt “it’s my opinion”

Your opinion is generally dog shit plain and simple

[wispy bronze]

Ppl would call it crashing out, but we know He is spitting fax 🗣

[lapis tide]

Tyty

[wispy bronze]

I still dont get how PPl forcefully hate on av (mostly for 0 reason). But then try to shove me those false narratives in my mouth. Like als has a way lower quality, copies their slop each week (another godly quest and some units). Repeat, repeat.

[wispy bronze]

No mate

Np

Lol

[lapis tide]

Literally a game is doing something different well at least trying to, PvP is generally an amazing gamemode but we generally have ppl that played Als and anime defenders and their brain cells are literally cooked to the fucking pot

Yes it just pixels on the screen yes I don’t need to crash out abt a game but at the end of the fucking day

Give fucking av/devs their roses

[wispy bronze]

Ye they are drolling over the weekly slop. Tbf i dont want to hate that hard against als, cuz the devs are chill. But their community is just hating on av just like Aa did. Mostly for no reason

[wispy bronze]

But i do agree

I couldnt play als. Cuz i really think quality> quantity

[lapis tide]

Facts

[upbeat oyster]

what

[lapis tide]

All that av needs is END GAME CONTENT

[upbeat oyster]

people actually talking positively about av

in MY suggestions channel??????

[wispy bronze]

Most of them hate when there is no hate needed, but dont give Credit when its needed🚬

[upbeat oyster]

[lapis tide]

😭

[upbeat oyster]

That's not what this channel is for!!!!

[wispy bronze]

:C

[lapis tide]

[umbral schooner]

never happening kek

[lapis tide]

See

[wispy bronze]

I played actively since Release. I will never hate the game

[umbral schooner]

i don't see

[lapis tide]

Prefect fucking example

[umbral schooner]

[lapis tide]

Like shut yo bitch ass up

[lapis tide]

Als end game content is godly’s every weekend

We can’t be deadass

If we used to say play Als if u wanna just troll and do 1b dmg

What the fuck happened??

😭

[umbral schooner]

i don't even know what you guys are arguing abt

[wispy bronze]

Als community

[amber spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/nano-shinonome-nichijou-everyday-life-scared-gif-11920291973395699228

[wispy bronze]

Being not funky enough

Is that even a word

[umbral schooner]

like who is disagreeing with the suggestion tho, its just things related to grinding QOL, The "Manjo" problem and update times

[lapis tide]

Can u please tell the devs to role me the vanguards defender and let me talk in stages I will defense this shit with my life am deadass

[wispy bronze]

I Do agree with the second thing

[lapis tide]

Aye dude pls consider

[wispy bronze]

But they already added anti mangro features unlike als

[amber spruce]

racial slurs incoming

[wispy bronze]

Lmao

[upbeat oyster]

we cannot trust our players to behave

[lapis tide]

Ama try my best not too

Am black so yea

[lapis tide]

Pls

I will behave

Just let them know

[wispy bronze]

Oogway typing a whole roman

[timber kiln]

grinding qol isnt the problem LMAO this guy is legit just saying that ALS has auto upgrade and X2/X3 speed which is insane considering half of the ALS grinds are longer than the AV grinds. Legit update 6 was the lowest ammount of grinding ive done (maybe except for ronin) and yall just always use the excuse x2 x3 speed as if it makes a difference. a stage even with x3 speed is 4-5 minutes long and an AV stage is 5-6 minutes longs except raids and stuff. this is by far the dumbest argument ive seen since if u didnt have x3 speed the game would be 7-8 minutes long which is longer than AV. IF you wanna talk about how long it takes to grind just look at the recent shadow(atomic) quest its legit longer than any quest in av.

[amber spruce]

shadow questline is devious
forcing ppl to do those lame ass team vs team quests is crazy😭

[lapis tide]

😭

[timber kiln]

auto upgrades also make it harder for manjos and just makes people have a lower iq cuz all they do is place units and have auto upgrade on and boom they just do that over and over. its repetitve at least AV has better mechanics that MAKES you actually play the game

[umbral schooner]

Touché

[wispy bronze]

"Av Grind wasnt as long, but i did skip the ronin quest" well you infact skipped the unit that will take the longest

[lapis tide]

😢 wait stop

Yall making em cry

We don’t have brain dead fucks in this world??

Oh my heart

[wispy bronze]

Wait

[amber spruce]

als really keeps making me go to inf wave 50 just for 100 treasure when the average evo item is like 2000😭
so glad i found out the afk chamber gives decent treasure rates

[wispy bronze]

I should had read the rest

[timber kiln]

i didnt skip ronin im still doing it i just got lazy to find people for the ex stage

and btw

people complain about needing people for ex stage

[lapis tide]

I literally would only play Als when I have done everything in av and got bored of the end game content

[wispy bronze]

Dw one will arive sooner or later

[timber kiln]

when als legit needs u to do portals with other people cuz u can only use 3 units for shadow

[amber spruce]

i normally somewhat enjoy als but i hate this summer event so much
its so grindy for a weekly game😭

[amber spruce]

lowkey you could prob win tier 5s with gilg idol and shadow

[wispy bronze]

They revamped matchmaking and ppl still have skill issues to get ex done🐢🗣

[lapis tide]

Ping me if they do I wanna laugh

[timber kiln]

ALS needed to find another way to add gambling to the game because of how easy it is to get rerolls IF ur a high level so they added enchantments

[wispy bronze]

I will but its 1 am for me. I could be eepy at that time

[wispy bronze]

They should add a mha update

[slate quail]

Bruh

[sturdy iron]

what the sigma

[lapis tide]

And then I heard this fucking argument abt av is a casino
Do they not know that Als is literally a fucking treasure map

[lapis tide]

Oh

[timber kiln]

and this guy talking bout ALS is number one. Only reason its number one because people who play it have low patience. Example: at one point ASTD was pumpin biweekly updates while Anime adventures would take longer. ASTD had a better ccu player count till it died cuz of powercreep and repetitive grinding

[sturdy iron]

[timber kiln]

Astd X trailer tommorow

[wispy bronze]

Bro is spitting fax

Icl ccu≠ good game

Either way for me everything above 10k is really good

[timber kiln]

always been the case

btw

ALS players use bots to finish grinding faster

where have i heard that before

[wispy bronze]

I never get how ppl say the game is dead if it has above 10k players. Or even less. A dead game would have below 1k players.

[lapis tide]

AYE SOMEONE GIVE THIS DUDE A FUCKING CROWN

WTF

[sturdy iron]

[wispy bronze]

Wait. Ik av is banning bots on their own. Does als even go actively after bots?

[wispy bronze]

Omg gilshanks

[lapis tide]

😭

[wispy bronze]

Honest question

[lapis tide]

Does he know chat

[wispy bronze]

🐢

[amber spruce]

i dont think they care
at least they stopped making everything tradeable

[wispy bronze]

Damn

I hate roblox for not going actively against bots

[timber kiln]

😂😂😂

[amber spruce]

cuz simply why would they care about bots
roblox doesnt care and instead just tries to hide them
and als gets free ccu from it

[timber kiln]

Nagblox admitted he uses alts to finish grinding faster on his videos

[wispy bronze]

Ah geez

[timber kiln]

this shows u how ALS messes up people and makes them less tolerent to grinds

[amber spruce]

thats crazy
he could just ask and ppl would give him free shit

[timber kiln]

100% will get backlashed if he gets caught

and ALS will also get clowned

even your own ccs cant even play the game without needed alts?

same shit that happened with AD

only difference between AD and ALS is passives and updates and models

other than that

theres nun different

and the trading shit but u can still trade almost everything except units

[timber kiln]

btw

@molten obsidian fact that u made this suggestion as a 2 week als player explains alot

[signal field]

Nah actually tho

[lapis tide]

holy moly

[placid torrent]

Youre arguing with voices in your head i never even talked about playercount 💀

ALS actually has shit to do

Doesnt take 4 weeks to update

Doesnt have 500 bugs

Doesnt add random ass series nobody gives a fuck about

"Av is greatness" jeez

[lapis tide]

yo think for a second look at av and look at als WHAT U THINK WOULNDT HAVE BUGS

[lapis tide]

are we deadass.

[lapis tide]

one of ur als demons was saying that dumb ass shit

[placid torrent]

Youre asking the consumer to look past the issue and try to "understand" their cause?

Okay 💀

[lapis tide]

godly's every weekend isn't rlly shit to do

[placid torrent]

Yeah why wouldn't i be

[lapis tide]

u still not answering the question

[placid torrent]

Pulling numbers out your ass but okay

[lapis tide]

alsis dogshit

ofc it wouldnt have bugs

[lapis tide]

am i wrong tho 💀

[placid torrent]

The game that is unplayable at release is objectively more dogshit

[placid torrent]

Yeah you are

[lapis tide]

well am sorry that when u actually put time into something ofc bugs are gonna come and they did say that the only reason that there's so much bugs is cuz they just keep adding gamemodes

this doc/update is gonna fix like alot of them

[placid torrent]

Are you like stupid? Do you not understand that the consumer does not care about what causes the issue, only that there is an issue with the update that took 4 weeks 💀

Nobody asked them to make pvp

If they couldnt do it

[lapis tide]

u are literally comparing a game which has nothing but models and 3x speed and a game which makes ACTUALLY vfx sounds and gameplay not godly's every week

[placid torrent]

They shouldnt have

[lapis tide]

we all knew pvp was coming
am that is kinda end game content for us "end game" players

[placid torrent]

Yeah because everyone plays with unit animations and game sound on youre right

[placid torrent]

🤣

[lapis tide]

so u the consumer would take a dog shit product becuz its getting hyped over lies????

[placid torrent]

Thats your take

[lapis tide]

alot of ppl do even if u wana say they dont

[lapis tide]

that's a generally take

[placid torrent]

Yeah most dont unfortunately

[lapis tide]

ur literally comparing a game that actually puts in work to a work that does nothing

like are u tryna rage bait or this is how u actually fucking think

[placid torrent]

"Its getting hyped over lies" no, they just released their best update in 6 months vs a game that released 2 of their worst in 6 months

[lapis tide]

can u hold a convo when ur mind is fucking rotten to the fucking core

[placid torrent]

I dont give a fuck about the effort put in you imbecile, why would i when i face 50 bugs in the first hour of the update

[lapis tide]

2 godlys dont mean best updaye.

am sorry to say

[placid torrent]

Neither of these updates had a godly

Youre a genuine clown

💀

[lapis tide]

am not gonan keep going with u
cuz its actually funny how we actually got ppl that think like this
ama be seeing u on the av update ✌️

[placid torrent]

Yeah i will be on the av update

I play the game more than you do

[lapis tide]

oh rlly

pls.

dont do this shit

[placid torrent]

Yeah but i dont do free pr for a game for no reason.

[lapis tide]

dk what ur talking abt but ok ig?

the fact what u went quick to saying YOU play more than me shows u rjust here to talk a bunch of shit

[placid torrent]

I do probably

It wouldnt surprise me if that was the case

[lapis tide]

am sorry to inform u, u dont 💔 am not the flexing type but ur not sorry

[placid torrent]

This isnt a flex

But okay

[lapis tide]

are u slow.

[placid torrent]

Its simply a statement as to how i can play the game and still be critical

[placid torrent]

Look in the mirror and ask that.

[lapis tide]

well there's a diff when your being critical and being ignorant

[lapis tide]

ur comparing als and av.

[placid torrent]

Im not being ignorant, thats just what you think

[lapis tide]

sorry but no.

[placid torrent]

Im comparing av and its biggest competitor in the genre, yeah

Are they still running the race with aa or smth?

[lapis tide]

u still havent said anything meaningful but that als updates every week and has no bugs which is expect for a game like that do we?

[placid torrent]

I mean if your comprehension is that of a toddler you would think that

But sure

[lapis tide]

als being a competitor isnt much rlly AA was their competitor sicne that game had insane amount of hype and d riding

one simple update form av will take their players

back

its that simple

[placid torrent]

Yeah if its good

And it works

[lapis tide]

u said those words btw i can go and ss it for u

[placid torrent]

Yeah i did say id take weekly updates with no bugs over 4 weeks updates that are nigh unplayable on release.

Thats certainly not all i said

But it is an important point

[lapis tide]

then ur ironically cant have a say in which is better am sorry
u just want to play something regardless of what it looks like

[placid torrent]

Yeah because i dont care about the map i see twice every update or the vfx i always have off

[lapis tide]

well thats u gang even if u have vfx off the gameplay of both games are so different

i cant understand why u would say als is generally better

[placid torrent]

I do care about the 500 bugs though

[lapis tide]

just cuz they dont have to do much

[placid torrent]

I never said that btw

[lapis tide]

...

[placid torrent]

This als update was indeed better than the past 2 av ones

And als does do somethings better than av

Which they need to learn from

[lapis tide]

which is???

[placid torrent]

Better update schedule, barely any bugs on drop, understanding the genre and not doing random ass updates 50 people in the community care about

And no, better update schedule for av wouldnt be weekly updates

[opaque spade]

als provides more “content” aka grind. ig sum ppl like that or at least wanna find smth to waste their time on js gotta accept that

[placid torrent]

They were doing well back in 4.0

If 4.0 took 3 weeks, every .0 update should

[opaque spade]

av provides quality ig but theyre both the same even if av tries to be diff

bc theyre atd games

nothing more

[lapis tide]

better update schedule is bcuz the game is slop that's one
als cant have bugs if what they give to the char which is vfx and sound isnt there thats 2
the anime picks av can do better on that i can give u that

[placid torrent]

The first 2 reasons are just invalid when av used to do them better than they currently are

[lapis tide]

oh i understand that fully but when it comes to comapring the 2 you cant do that

[lapis tide]

what are u talking abt

[placid torrent]

Theyve literally degraded in terms of update schedule and how buggy updates are

[opaque spade]

why cant u compare the 2?

[placid torrent]

Updates were coming out on time

Updates werent nearly as buggy

[opaque spade]

one just updates faster with worse quality and mechanics

while providing more grind

als isnt buggy bc they dont try n innovate

simple game

[placid torrent]

If innovating is dropping shit like odyssey

Then i dont really know what to say

[lapis tide]

if terms of gamplay and game function
ppl think cuz one game updates each week think that is better to the game that update 2weeks/ a month
when u can literally look at the both games and see why one updates faster than the other
YES als has improved from what it is but that is it als is in its on space

[lapis tide]

i was telling that idiot that for the pass 20 mins

[opaque spade]

its more like adding new mechanics

[placid torrent]

Like animation cancelling to an atd?

[opaque spade]

odyssey is proof they tried to innovate

[placid torrent]

Yeah theyre failing these past few updates

[opaque spade]

they should have added more mechanics to ex stage

[placid torrent]

Thats the point

[opaque spade]

ik

good goals bad execution

[lapis tide]

als is a simple game
av is an actually game cuz they tired to do things differently so when u compare which is a better game and why this game is getting more players is the fact als is just a easier game/ simple game that doesnt do things differently

[placid torrent]

No i cannot appreciate a mechanic that makes my gameplay worse. What sort of "innovative mechanic" are the handcuffs in cid raid

What is so "innovative and creative" about the dumbass birb familiar

[opaque spade]

yea im ngl that mechanic is unnecessary

[placid torrent]

*it was getting more players

The av devs tried their best to lose players this update

[placid torrent]

Like most newly added mechanics

Thats the issue

You cant bank an update's success on these innovative features when in practice nobody would like them

[lapis tide]

well u can keep going with freedom i pretty much sahred why u cant compare the two

[opaque spade]

i dont know why they dont make mechanics that make the gameplay more fun and interactive rather than only interactive

like hancuffs is just annoying

[placid torrent]

Yeah thats pretty shitty reasoning but atleast youre consistent.

[lapis tide]

ur reasons are faster updates and no bugs

pls stfu

holy fuck

[placid torrent]

You cant read ig not my issue

Acting like update schedule and bugs arent insanely important points

[lapis tide]

u cant at all
freedom is breaking well down for yo dumbass yet u still cant understand

like what can fix u?

[lapis tide]

LOOK AT BOTH GAMES AND ASK YOURSELF WHY THIS ONE UPDATES FASTER THAN THIS ONE

U HAVE TO THINK ABT BOTH GAMES

[placid torrent]

He literally fucking said "why cant you compare the two?" you idiot.

[lapis tide]

BEFORE GIVING POINTS ON THEM

[lapis tide]

and i told him why???

[placid torrent]

You actually just are illiterate if you think that im saying that av should do weekly

[lapis tide]

hes rlly talking to u like hello

[placid torrent]

Av literally did have a better update schedule

[lapis tide]

holy fuck when the fuck did i said that

LOLOL

[placid torrent]

Like 4 months ago

[lapis tide]

nah u got it big bro

[placid torrent]

Theyre literally fucking downgraded their update schedule

[ruby karma]

ngl i dont feel like Av taking longer to update even makes for less buggy updates
the devs even said they had to fix 300 bugs (i think) and yet there is still alot in the game

[placid torrent]

Youve repeated "faster updates no bugs" 50 times like a pokemon whilst ignoring the fact that av did have a better update schedule than they do rn

[lapis tide]

av updates were every 2weeks

[placid torrent]

Yeah i wonder when that last happened

[lapis tide]

and it still had bugs cuz they added another gamemode that update

[placid torrent]

Nowhere near the same amount

[lapis tide]

if they gonna keep adding gamemodes they gonna keep having bugs

[lapis tide]

...

[placid torrent]

If the updates are unplayable on release then theyre gonna keep losing players then

[lapis tide]

read this.

[ruby karma]

even with that the last few updates had alot of bugs too
the the bugs didnt come with the gamemode mostly

[placid torrent]

I already did

[ruby karma]

u know what we will see the playcount trmw

[placid torrent]

And i dont care that their choice of forcing major gameplay features causes these bugs, what i see is shit like odyssey and then 50 bugs to go along with it

[ruby karma]

if av will take over als

[placid torrent]

They will if the portals arent as buggy as winter portals

Probably

Dont expect much from them at this point though

6.0 was genuinely so shit

[ruby karma]

ngl ever since AA died
i be looking at Av as the new AA not sure if thats a good or bad thing rn

[placid torrent]

Clearly some idiots ride av like people used to aa

Definitely not a good thing

Acting like they have no competition

[prisma belfry]

Looks cooler but the only unit not to have a cosmetic like what 😭

[placid torrent]

💀

[prisma belfry]

And out of all the characters, I want his fit, gear, and animation the most

[ruby karma]

the only character i knew from gg was happy chaos

and i am surprised he wasnt a unit ngl

[prisma belfry]

There’s already 2 secrets so

They only do 2 secrets an update so far

[lapis tide]

ryu? or the cat girl

[prisma belfry]

Honestly making sol a mythic was already crazy enough

[prisma belfry]

Sol

[prisma belfry]

He has immortality and dragon install mind you

[lapis tide]

u wana dress as a cat?

[prisma belfry]

??

Sol bad guy

Hello??

[lapis tide]

am confuse

show me a ss

[prisma belfry]

He’s the fire unit

The only fire unit

[lapis tide]

not good guy?

[prisma belfry]

Yes

His real name is sol bad guy

[lapis tide]

oh yea he need s cos

[lapis tide]

oh

[prisma belfry]

Bad guy > not good guy

10/10 naming convention

[wispy bronze]

Found the guy who has brain damage

Took you long enough to appear

[lapis tide]

LOL

[molten obsidian]

what a long ass fucking day js woke up and seen some mf
actially make poor arguments in my absent wait rq

[quick garden]

lemme handle it rq

[molten obsidian]

saves my time

[molten obsidian]

It is a problem people who are on devices like ios/console which makes their expereince easier.
And what does Av do to make the grind bearable?
Force people to go out of the fucking platform and look for Ahk/mecros
to bare this shitty grind
Console/ios players cant bare this fucking grind which is why their on als
Not really. an anime vanguards grind right fucking now
could be longer then an als grind because their is no pity
and you can go up to 1000 stages with no yamamoto i hope u realize that.
Sure the grind is longer in als but its more bearable to console/ios players.
Than anime vanguards grind is

which is why it has more players

[molten obsidian]

Because ur a fucking pc player whos prob using mecros
i said only for console because u guys on fucking pc/mobile literally got work arounds to make it bearable.
People on console have to grind this game 24 hrs paying attention
This is just being realistic and i said only for fucking console for a reason

[molten obsidian]

yeah it does explain alot

[molten obsidian]

Yeah level 100 and fucking 17

we even have a fucking confession right here

i swear somebody tell this mf to play on console or fucking ios

[lapis tide]

Als Als oh Als

[quick garden]

i mean bro isnt even part of the target audience of auto upgrade

[bright smelt]

how did he get 6 shiny vergils

[molten obsidian]

u only see this shit in the av server

[quick garden]

nah in profile u can multi equip the same unit

[bright smelt]

oh

i didnt know that

[quick garden]

also btw @molten obsidian do u think av will ever suprass als in playercount?

[wispy bronze]

Wait Till bro finds out about the New sneak🚬

[grizzled rain]

It can and it has been doing that until the last 2-3 updates

Als and av were dead even for a good amount of time

[molten obsidian]

yh bro cba prob more invincible glaze

[wispy bronze]

Icl children love slop content. Als gives the weekly copy paste slop. Thats how roblox is nowdays and thats why all the New games nowdays are always medicore cuz the target audience are slop loving children. Drolling on their phone🤷‍♂️

[molten obsidian]

hell nah
prob not player count wise
Unless they decrease the wait time
one game has near to unlimited content while one has limited

[wispy bronze]

Portraits the average anime last slop enjoyer 🐢

[grizzled rain]

I think you’re underestimating als a bit too much here, love it or hate it they’re at least doing something right to keep such an active player count because it wasn’t like this during the vid update

[wispy bronze]

Underestimate?

[molten obsidian]

yeah its slop and im not gonna deny that
but effort still goes thru its just less
and it has a shit ton of stuff to do friendlier grind and way more
which is why its doing better numbers then this game

[quick garden]

fair

[wispy bronze]

Ccu≠ good game sadly. Nowdays on roblox slop games get attention. Unless you gonna say grow a garden, steal a brainrot and bloxfruit are the Best games on roblox . There is no actual meaningful effort in als if they drop the same weekly copied slop (godly quest +new units that Look quality wise medicore).
Just a so god damn sad how slop is Ruling nowdays

[molten obsidian]

i wont lie i did fucking hate als with my heart and soul
but i gave it a try and that shit is fun thats what matters
als is just something u have to try to figure out

[molten obsidian]

ok please tell me a game that has alot of stuff to do
and has a lower ccu then it deserves
they are reasons why this game have better ccu
like its easier to run etc
i mean they is no meaningful effort doesent mean they is no effort at all.
Slop is ruling games because they have alot of stuff to do

[tough spruce]

Why hating a game with your heart 😭

[molten obsidian]

please tell me a high quality game that has a shit ton of stuff to do and is dead

[molten obsidian]

because i felt it didnt deserve its success it was getting
and was a waste

[wispy bronze]

Why not answer my question first. You think ccu is important. Would you then agree that bloxfruit, grow a garden and stuff like brook haven and steal a brain rot are actual good games because of high ccu?

[quick garden]

thats true i cant think of a high quality game which has alot of stuff to do and isnt dead

[wispy bronze]

Ccu≠ good game. Tbf does als even ban bots?

You could answer at least the question that i asked you before yapping and completly dodging the question

🐢🚬

[tough spruce]

Tbh i feel the same way with grow a garden
That shi is too overrated 🥀

[molten obsidian]

i did not explicitly say ccu means the game is good or not
from an actual game design perspective they are ass sure
but people play what is fun at the end of the day and thats all they is to it

i just stated they are obv reasons why it has a higer ccu

[molten obsidian]

i would know that but in my time in als
havent encountered bots

lemme check rq

[placid torrent]

Took you that long to look in the mirror?

[wispy bronze]

I agree with the last part. The second one fits to als category. Tbf in the end of the day ppl play whatever they like.

[molten obsidian]

yup pretty sure they dont ban bots

[placid torrent]

Als playercount isnt even the main point here

[wispy bronze]

Fr?

[placid torrent]

Av's own playercount is

[wispy bronze]

I think you may be actually brain damaged

[quick garden]

i feel ccu is more of a measure of how fun it is then.

[wispy bronze]

Google the word

Comparison

U need 2 Things to compare to each other gang

[placid torrent]

Nobody was talking to you dumbass

[molten obsidian]

yeah js asked in the server

[placid torrent]

And yeah, im comparing av's old playercount to their current playercount

[molten obsidian]

not really cause devs could easily just bot the game
and fun games may still have little players

[wispy bronze]

I legit always thought they ban bots on their own just like av

[placid torrent]

"Homeless man calls another person a broke ass"

[quick garden]

u know devs can be banned for botting their game and can u name one game thats fun and doesent got many players

[molten obsidian]

well unfortunately not

[wispy bronze]

When did you mention the old Player count? If other ppl are comparing als ccu with av ccu for whatever reason?

[molten obsidian]

yup
i do know a fun game which has not many players
but fun is subjective but i would say volleyball 4.2

[wispy bronze]

I did like derelict

Even tho it has below 1k players

But those devs took a break months ago, May they Rest

[quick garden]

got a point icl

[polar night]

WE are playing anime infinity

[quick garden]

wtf is that?

[molten obsidian]

some new td game idk

[quick garden]

wtf i aint bothering

if it aint als av anime adventures or satd X fuck that game

yh i dont fw the ui

[molten obsidian]

i dont even care abt the ui will it even survive?

if they taking 2 months to upd gg's

[quick garden]

yh it looks boring asf not gonna bother inf is the main prog instead of story

[molten obsidian]

i mean atleast play the game before we get to wild statements

[quick garden]

yh scracth that

like how tf are console players not allowed to join private servers till this fucking day

this is indigneous asf

[golden cloud]

Playing roblox on mobile

How people do that...
Is just bad for me.

[quick garden]

unless it souls rng ill understand tbh

[molten obsidian]

why would u use a whole fucking pc to plays souls rng?

[molten obsidian]

this is av we talking about

[quick garden]

real they never fail to surpass my expectations

what do u think is the highest propotion of av players device wise?

[molten obsidian]

prob pc at the top

then mobile

then console

[quick garden]

i think mobile and pc are competing

[molten obsidian]

in als prob but not in av

[quick garden]

yessir finally about to ge this bum ass denji yipeeeeee

[molten obsidian]

oh what do u need?

[quick garden]

evo yuro

beat leg stage 1 more time

do inf nightmare wave 100

and i got da helix of hell

[molten obsidian]

nuh uh

[umbral schooner]

Als leans more into the grind which is what the target demographic wants ig?

I don’t get the argument

Were supposed to overlook Av’s flaws because of the amount of effort the devs put into the game?

[quick garden]

they is No point trying to convince him is like trying to convince a police man robbery is legal

[molten obsidian]

'There is nothing more dangerous than a desperate man who has nothing to lose.'

a wise man once said

[molten obsidian]

i mean fr changing ppls view in this discord is impossible

[quick garden]

yeah bro is saying als sucks and he has prob not even played the game

[molten obsidian]

what makes u think that?

[quick garden]

he aint in the als server

and most of his arguments are about the quality graphic wise of the game

like maybe als grind is flawed his arguments is more like

als is slope releasing upds every week

[molten obsidian]

tbh i was just like that

[quick garden]

same here thats why its easy to differentiate someone whos played

and someone who hasnt

only reason i play als is it offers more content then av tbh

and friendlier grind ofc

[crude tapir]

Dude als has 2x and 3x speed because they add slop every week to grind 5 hours for just for the next slop to powercreep it

[placid torrent]

Oh suggestions are back on.

[molten obsidian]

finally E

[jade rapids]

als has more players because that is what the average 12 year old roblox child wants; mindless slop with just grind and no brain activity, as long as it has their "super cool anime character" they will play it. grow a garden has far more players because that is more akin to what the average 8 year old roblox player wants.

[grizzled rain]

The problem with this is that it wasn’t like this, back when av was on its run als was the “inferior” game because of its lack of quality yet now when the game is successful you twist the argument to align with yours

While I agree it’s more simple that av by the largest margin imaginable at the end of the day it’s still a good tds thus explaining why it’s alive to date

[jade rapids]

ive literally said that als is the inferior game because of its lack of quality but high quantity in my message...?

[opaque spade]

als is still the inferior game in my eyes

not by much

but still

[wispy bronze]

Add to that, that there is an unholy amount of bots that dont get banned

But in the end of the day

You Do you

Yk

Lemme shit post

Those 49 Stars gotta be discord bots

Grrrr

[silent mulch]

so much facts, als>>>>>>>av

[tame forge]

Just play both😛

[dusk cedar]

I think QoL is a LOT better
But AV has cool units and stuff

[silent mulch]

facts

cool units with good models

but qol als is mega hyper blast

superior

[opaque spade]

they both have things they excel in

whether u prefer one over the other is subjective

[silent mulch]

yeah

but i think als is superior in almost everything

(is my opinion)
(and i play so much both games)

[dusk cedar]

yeah I like ALS a bit more cuz it feels more respective of your time
like most pities are 50 or less runs, which is REALLY nice

not saying AV doesnt have good QoL though
banner picker was a great addition

[silent mulch]

fact

[left dune]

its more friendly because thats all they have left

with weekly updates

n shit

like can you imagine no pity for a unit in als where 10 characters get added each 1-2 weeks

[dusk cedar]

either way it is what it is

[quick garden]

Well yeah but then thats the not the only usp als has

hte only reason someone would play av over als is because of the graphics / smoother experience

like lowkey we need auto upr for console players

[placid torrent]

Easier to get into

Visuals

[molten obsidian]

also the bait for downbad ppl

[quick garden]

wdym easier to get into?

but lowkey W they giving console players some love

[hearty badge]

and because it have a better experience for new players

[quick garden]

i mean when it comes to teaching new players abt mechanics etc yh ig

[hearty badge]

-none of the world 1 units are good even on world 1
-Good units are locked behind a banner that is full of useless units
-Getting stones is annoying as hell for new players
-Only avatar and glitch are neccesary to beat world 2 content (the other traits are useless)

[quick garden]

they world 1 units arent good cuz they world 2 was added like prob 5 month ago or more so so world 1 was gonna get outdated

most of the good units on banner are easy to get u have got to be kidding me

yh getting stones can be considered annoying for new players because its slow

i mean yh theother traits are useless sure but then they give a fuck ton of rrs that u not getting glitched/avatar is hard asf

[subtle epoch]

brandon said hhe made this update cater to new players so aye

lets see how he does

as much as i hate als, he can cook sometimes

by sometimes, probably what

30%

[hearty badge]

-true but the methods of farming traits as new player give you barely anything
-im not saying that they are difficult to get but like astd, waiting for them to be on banner is annoying when there is a lot of units which are useless for the powercreep
-new players have to play w1 until they unlock world 2 bro 🥀

[grizzled rain]

I’d say it’s a smooth 40 minimum, he’s actually been doing a lot better

[placid torrent]

Als is fucking pain and misery to start in as a new player

If youre not getting carried

[hearty badge]

he will copy paste av beginner quest but instead of giving a good unit, he will give us zod

[quick garden]

🥱

to tired for ts cba to argue

[quick garden]

assuming u dont know what ur doing yh pretty much ill say im good rn and i started like a month ago without help

[languid yew]

AV beginner quest got copied, but they gave Garou

wonder what took them long to implement a basic feature

[subtle epoch]

they copied it but aye, aleast its there

idol + garou for free and a free trait

[languid yew]

it's disappointing imo

[hearty badge]

oh they actually give the beat unit from world 1

nice

[subtle epoch]

yea they give u garou idol, and a free trait voucher to get overlord on any unit

[subtle epoch]

oh nah i agree, but

aleast its been done

[languid yew]

true, better late than never they say

[hearty badge]

overlord oshy 🔥

[edgy wyvern]

Thats actually nice

Although thats indirectly saying how unbalanced the game is

[placid torrent]

Good changes ig.

Idk how they hit 100k with a random ass qol update though

Especially when av's playercount didnt even move

[quick garden]

@molten obsidian how av upd going?

[molten obsidian]

ass i am not grinding that shit

especially on console till this mfs add auto upr

[quick garden]

damn thats crazy

[molten obsidian]

its not crazy the devs are crazy

some portals are prac impossible

[quick garden]

well not suprised im js abusing planet namek tbh

[molten obsidian]

suprised ur still playing it icl

[quick garden]

who said hell nah i was on als the whole time since yesterday

[lethal obsidian]

als on 100k rn is wild

they not slowin down

[molten obsidian]

yh i trust ur words

[quick garden]

yeah im glad u do trust em

[molten obsidian]

100%

[molten obsidian]

oh fr?

[quick garden]

i mean ofc thats why als is the goat

the goat

[lethal obsidian]

yea i think update but im not sure

they were at 80k before so most def an update

[lethal obsidian]

i get that but the economy is so shit

[hearty badge]

vergil and dante hype ig (vergil doppel look ass)

[quick garden]

u prac dont need to trade in als only thing u trading for is maybe 3x speed tbh

[lethal obsidian]

i dont see als beeing a better game in the core then av

[random solstice]

in av or als

[hearty badge]

ofc als
mf look like tank from solo leveling

not even close to vergil

[atomic venture]

Because its not

But massive qols save it

Has been said a hundred times

[placid torrent]

cant be that

i'm guessing the game is getting more botted tbh

[quick garden]

it really doesent matter how good a game is in this day

the experience it offers is what matters

[lethal obsidian]

opinions can differ and thats great but factually it is better

[quick garden]

i mean yh but one game treats their players like shit compared to the other

[lethal obsidian]

av treats players like shit? or you mean in general

[quick garden]

if we comparing it to als 100%

but not really av does treat the players good in general

[molten obsidian]

hmm idk what u mean by a "good game icl"

[lethal obsidian]

i was about to say like if you grind for vsjw you can beat everything in this game besides this one EX stage like they treat us good

but i would not say no to more rr

[quick garden]

in terms of game design

[quick garden]

which is a problem and his also a vanguard so what fucking situation would u not use vsjw

bro is an all in one package

only shit he cant do is heal allies

[lethal obsidian]

exactly

[molten obsidian]

ok fair

[molten obsidian]

prob none? unless they add a stage that gives unknown a debuff

[lethal obsidian]

never

[restive rose]

Why we using the term dominates as if they dont average nearly the same playercount

[quick garden]

yh but thats js a bandagae solution they cant keep doing that otherwise ppl are gonna get mad

[molten obsidian]

this post was made when av was at 25k players and als was at 80k

[lethal obsidian]

but yk i really dont get how they managed such a spike in player count tbh

[molten obsidian]

i mean yh
if i were the devs i would add air units and make vsjw ground but they wont add airs

[quick garden]

well same here thats life for you

[restive rose]

oh alr im sure that was js an abnormality tho. i usually see als average 50k and av average like 40k

[quick garden]

well that could work tbh

[lethal obsidian]

this update has had some MAJOR bugs it was abnormal i went from lv 110 to 130 by only playing wordlines

like cmon

fix this shit

[restive rose]

als upds so often its so impressive and surely that is the leading reason why it has a higher average playercount then av

never seen a game upd more often other then shindo life

[molten obsidian]

cap av was at 30k and below before this upd dropped

[quick garden]

wtf

als is updating every week and u struggle to see bugs on upds

this mfs take a month and have like 5 major bugs when upd drops

[lethal obsidian]

huh wdym now

i mean av

not als

or am i slow

[molten obsidian]

yeah its true the content als has is prob the main reason icl

[quick garden]

i mean yh im also talking about av

110 to 130 sum crazy shit

[lethal obsidian]

nah the bugs they always got is ruining the update imo

[molten obsidian]

remember that bug for vsjw where u could skip the sacrifice 30 mythics/exclusive

[quick garden]

yeah i abused ts before it got patched icl

[quick garden]

yeah tbh i dont even bother playing on release day

[molten obsidian]

same

[lethal obsidian]

mark my words since they added pvp they messed their codes up so bad it will affect the next update prolly too

pvp messed the game up like HELL

[quick garden]

and the game mode is mid asf

like i swear besides portals when was the last time av dropped a good update?

[molten obsidian]

update 1

boss rush carried it icl

and portals arent even that good of a gamemode

[quick garden]

exactly wtf is that

[molten obsidian]

this game only performs good when it got competition

[quick garden]

Well astd X is coming

so they better stop fucking around

[molten obsidian]

i feel Astd X may be the well needed dagger to put av to sleep

[quick garden]

i doubt

[placid torrent]

Depends on your definition of good update lol

[quick garden]

consistency

[placid torrent]

I liked 4.0

[quick garden]

and wtf was 4.0?

[placid torrent]

4.5 was overall well liked even though i didnt love it

Bleach

[quick garden]

oh well that wasnt really bad tbh

[molten obsidian]

i mean only thing they added to the core gameplay loop was rifts

[quick garden]

well yeah but thats why i wont say it sucks

[molten obsidian]

idk fruity sama seems semi consistent to me

[quick garden]

well go back to the old astd

mfs i swear they used hawaii as an excuse to delay an upd

[placid torrent]

I think you expect a bit too much from av updates ngl, the fact of the matter is you cant expect creative things and ask them to learn from als at the same time

[molten obsidian]

i mean yeah that was old astd

[placid torrent]

I think if an update has good characters and it works, its a decent update

[molten obsidian]

not really its sucks when nearly all of the units in a upd is base 100% on rng

and mindless grind tbh like this upd

[placid torrent]

Thats just

The genre

[placid torrent]

Only kaguya is a mindless grind ima be real

If i thought doing 30+ stages for a unit was not feasible id drop als way before id drop av

[quick garden]

thats most atd upds the one that prob deviates the most is als icl

[placid torrent]

Thats just how these games do stuff

[placid torrent]

Als DOES NOT deviate gang

Als follows that to the t

[quick garden]

i mean more of the grind is based on time then it is rng imo except maybe ichiors vial

[placid torrent]

Yeah but thats just because they put everything behind like a 30 pity

[quick garden]

well yh better then rng drop simulator here

[placid torrent]

Including evo items

[placid torrent]

Only rng this upd is kaguya and ig rimuru who aint even that good

So mostly just kaguya

I think thats okay

[quick garden]

wtf did bro forget we got banner chars?

[subtle epoch]

which banner is RNG

gems r so easy to get

😭

[placid torrent]

Yea

[subtle epoch]

you can get 100k in a day

[quick garden]

rng is rng dawg

[placid torrent]

Bro??

[subtle epoch]

im ngl

[quick garden]

yo?

[subtle epoch]

700k gems a week is literally waht

rng manipulation bro

[placid torrent]

Als doesnt have limited banners??

[subtle epoch]

cuz ur gonna get alucard

😭

yes you can go like

3m gems no alucard

but i have not met anyone whos gone 5mil w/o him

[quick garden]

well they do but u prob dont need em 90% of the times

[subtle epoch]

also we have featured banner pity now

[placid torrent]

I went 15k jewels without the celestial i wanted to once

[quick garden]

here limited banners are op asf

[placid torrent]

Bro what

[molten obsidian]

i mean if we talking variety wise 100%

[placid torrent]

Im completely at rng's mercy if i wanna get any of the good summer units

[subtle epoch]

ALS and AV are just 2 completely different games in the same genre

you cant really put AV logic into ALS, or als logic in to AV

[placid torrent]

What does that mean

Als does not deviate from the atd stereotype be so fr

[subtle epoch]

AV is more cantered towards the gacha themes of ATDs game
ALS is more cantered to a full F2P experience

[placid torrent]

Their most unique features are just shit they copy from elsewhere

This aint even a diss

[subtle epoch]

AV and AWTD

😭

[quick garden]

i mean limiteds in als arent a must compared to av like arent a must u go for em

[subtle epoch]

bulma is literally killua from awtd

its funny as shit

[placid torrent]

Bro "the units get powrcrept in a few updates" isnt a good counterargument

[molten obsidian]

most of the grind like said earlier is based on time then it is on rng

[quick garden]

well how long has ichigo been meta

i would say a pretty fucking long time

[subtle epoch]

after being reworked like

what

3 times?

[placid torrent]

Hes not a limited banner is he

[subtle epoch]

units get reworked like every single time in als

[quick garden]

well yeah

[subtle epoch]

thats not how u make a meta

or a balance unit

[placid torrent]

I mean sure idk how thats deviating much, the only super rng based unit this upd was kaguya

[subtle epoch]

if you are forced to rework your units 3 times due to power creep, then ur game is severly lacking in balancing

a meta should created via buffs, low powercreep, and keeping the dmg moderate across units

not having units be reworked every single time they are out of the meta

[quick garden]

yeah that means their is obv a balancing problem if they need to get reworked obv

but then reworking them is kind of a solution tbh

[subtle epoch]

reworking causing more issues

then a soulation

the moment ichigo falls out of meta again, the community will complain

that will lead to a buff, that doesnt help him

then to another rework

[placid torrent]

A solution is not just spamming the same concept like 50 times in the span of 4 updates

[molten obsidian]

i mean yh but in als dont remember having to deal with a 1 in 20k unit

[placid torrent]

Can they stop doing "goes to x form for 30 seconds then goes to y form for 30 seconds yada yada" bs now

[quick garden]

well its obvious they do lack a balancer so as of rn this is their only solution

[molten obsidian]

they can 100% hire one btw

[placid torrent]

Av did meter based units like once and now als just slaps one on every fucking unit

[subtle epoch]

they have a balancer

[quick garden]

thats true

[subtle epoch]

hes just so shit at his job

[placid torrent]

Bray barely counts as a balancer

[quick garden]

well same as the guy in the head of the research department for this game

[placid torrent]

Also this upd had a pretty big bug too, godly leads stopped working

[subtle epoch]

oh

he got fired?

[placid torrent]

Idk if they fixed that uet

[subtle epoch]

thank god

nvm, i take my point back then

[placid torrent]

Valk is chill

Besides gg hes made mostly good choices

[subtle epoch]

i was mostly talking about bray b tw

not valk

[placid torrent]

Gg was bad, atleast they acknowledged that

[subtle epoch]

bray is terrible at his job

[quick garden]

yh well i js woke up and i could think of alot of issues tbh but imma chill

[molten obsidian]

i mean yh how tf is katakuri stunnable
and why the fuck does delta only attack weak enemies

and the whole vsjw quest is bullshit

maybe besides the 15k summons idk

[subtle epoch]

delta doesnt really fight anyone too strong iirc

[quick garden]

well thats a few issues but cool

[subtle epoch]

the only strong person she fought was john smith

[placid torrent]

The hardest unit in the game being hard to get is fair man

I think you expect a little too much when you complain about that

[subtle epoch]

havent read EIS in a while dont quote me if im wrong

[molten obsidian]

well that doesent justify her passive of attacking weak ppl
and majority of her fights are actually with ppl who are strong but not very strong

[placid torrent]

Do we forget that thats just the game we're playing, a gacha game that has td aspects?

Ofc vsjw is grindy

[molten obsidian]

atleast make it somehow correlate to the anime

[placid torrent]

It does?

Vsjw definitely correlates

[subtle epoch]

vsjw quest does relate to the anime ngl

[molten obsidian]

ok where did sjw beat beru 50 times?

[subtle epoch]

beru is just a boss

[molten obsidian]

when did sun jin woo ever sacrifice 30 allies?

[placid torrent]

Thats nitpicky

[subtle epoch]

😭

[molten obsidian]

fucking never

fight me

[placid torrent]

Did ichigo have to collect 3 crumbling orbs to go hos in bleach

[subtle epoch]

did denji need asa for his hero of hell form

😭

[molten obsidian]

havent watched bleach

[subtle epoch]

why does gilgamesh evolve into the same thing he was before

and not caster gilgamesh

which makes more sense

[placid torrent]

Did sjw need 20 s rank essence stones to go to his final form

[grizzled rain]

Honestly I agree that the length and effort makes sense since it’s something that’s always there to work for but DAMN 20 minutes per stage is brutal

[molten obsidian]

i havent watched solo leveling that shit is mid asf

[placid torrent]

Yeah i know it is but thats just the genre

[subtle epoch]

the only godly quest in als that makes sense is dio

did cid need to beat summer portals with one other unit to become atomic

😭

[quick garden]

well u could make the argument did gilgamesh have to beat himself to become gilgamesh?

[placid torrent]

😭

[subtle epoch]

tbf on gilgamesh, he legit says "challenge me for my power"

when yu speak to him

but then again, ye that makes no sense

im still mad on WHY gilgamesh isnt his strange/fake form, or caster

[molten obsidian]

also i wont lie vsjw is gonna break the meta for a while

[quick garden]

nah that shit is forever

if u have fucking lancer vsjw monarch speed wagon and takaroda u can beat any stage in the game

[subtle epoch]

i mean, thats his whole point as a unit

upd 4.5 was the big power creep for the game

besides elphelt and yhwach, its been the only instant of massive power creep

[molten obsidian]

yh but this js leads to a situation where u would never use any other units besides vsjw

[placid torrent]

You do

[subtle epoch]

you do

[molten obsidian]

what situation?

[subtle epoch]

EX stage

tourney

[molten obsidian]

that shit is unsoloable even if u have monarchs

[placid torrent]

Anything relating to lbs, or tourneys

[subtle epoch]

Yhwach + sakura

[placid torrent]

Its soloable

[subtle epoch]

elphelt can still solo you just need to manage 3 of her

[molten obsidian]

well the casual player doesent need to involve himself in those stuff

[placid torrent]

I dont think she does anymore

[molten obsidian]

lemme look for the vid i swear it cant be solo'd

[subtle epoch]

i did it yesterday, had monarch tho

i think deadeye can still, but dont quote me

[quick garden]

in terms of clearing stages 100%

[subtle epoch]

also with kaguya buffing elements

it opens up to more units being able to solo

psure most blast units would be able to solo now

[subtle epoch]

theres yhwach + sakura strat

a vsjw + yhwach strat

[molten obsidian]

yh cant find this vid tbh

[subtle epoch]

elphelt strat

[molten obsidian]

u beaten the update?

[quick garden]

Fuck no

[molten obsidian]

oh its that onoe?