Why Av Just Why (Rant)

[arctic dragon]

:eyebrow

[small spade]

i never said that

[arctic dragon]

What if conquest is the portal unit guys

[small spade]

gulp

[north chasm]

invincible is

worldline

[glad eagle]

Rimuru and ragna have the same vibes, therefore rimuru its from portal

[north chasm]

rudeus agenda is crazy

[glad eagle]

Idk if that would be better than kaguya

[wind elbow]

Not really man

Hes a straight weirdo

[subtle torrent]

I'm almost certain invincible and conquest will be the portal secret

Rudeus will probably end up being the worldlines unit

and the rest on spring banner

[ripe quarry]

All wl units were more supports than dmg until now

Maybe thats still the way

Frieren doesnt count since her money passive is useful asw

For some cases...

[mental vapor]

Nah

Worldline units were always shown last in the Trailers,no?

For example frieren

Now it Was conquest

So high chance

He could be the worldline unit

[subtle torrent]

I dont think so, specifically because of them bringing up shiny hunter

Granted that could still apply to worldlines but I don't think it would be enough for the devs themselves to say "Hey yeah you might want shiny hunter for this one", i think that fits way more in the context of another ragna farm

[small spade]

Wouldn't a worldline shiny be a really good reason to get shiny hunter

[subtle torrent]

(Plus you can guarantee a shiny worldlines unit if you hit high enough in LB's anyways so wouldnt make sense why they'd encourage buying shiny hunter unless their talking about the room 50 drop specifcally)

[small spade]

Because you only get the one shot at it outside of lb

[arctic dragon]

I mean true but that isn’t really worth it

[small spade]

Any stage/portal shiny it isn't nearly as much of a necessity

Because you can just farm more of the unit

rather than take your one shot and hope it lands

[arctic dragon]

Spending 20 dollars to raise a 1.5 chance to a 3 percent chance that you only get one try at

[subtle torrent]

In my eyes not really, i think it makes way more sense in the context of another portal drop

[small spade]

May as well make the most of that shot if you really want

[small spade]

It's still a permanent upgrade and investment though

[arctic dragon]

Not worth it tho

[subtle torrent]

Plus it wouldnt make sense why the devs are encouraging people to buy shiny hunter for this worldlines unit specifically

[small spade]

Because the shiny looks good?

[arctic dragon]

Yeah but so did katakuri

[subtle torrent]

I mean yeah but that's also a subjective take, a lot of people will probably favour conquest out for nolan

[small spade]

Which is why they don't have to buy it

[subtle torrent]

I could easily be proven wrong come tomorrow but as of rn, my personal take is they'll be a portal drop

[subtle torrent]

Not saying they have to, just saying doesn't make much sense to me why they'd want to encourage people for this worldlines shiny specifically

[small spade]

Because they'd want to draw out the hype in it

Katakuri shiny wasn't nearly as much

[chilly storm]

DDD will not be touched on further

[subtle torrent]

Not much point in arguing over this, no current way for either take to be proven until tomorrow

[mental vapor]

But tbf. My logic does fit no? If frieren Was shown last(worldline unit). Katekuri was shown last (World like unit). Conquest is now shown last

[subtle torrent]

I wouldnt be suprised if they do end up being worldlines

its just the shiny hunter comment thats making me lean more to portal drop

[small spade]

I would think shiny hunter comment is more the other way

Portal drops wouldn't need it nearly as much

You can always just farm portals

[subtle torrent]

The way i'm looking at it, i think it makes way more sense for them to encourage spending your money on a grind with multiple chances of getting the shiny rather than a one time chance that (realistically) the vast majority of players aren't going to reap the rewards from, especially when theres a f2p method already of guaranteeing that shiny you want through LB's

[winter condor]

nevermind IM fucking stupid

[small spade]

Yes but LBs are increibly limited both in accessibility and quantity of the drops itself

[subtle torrent]

I mean ig, but i still can't see the devs encouraging spending money on a one time chance for a shiny. If people buy the gamepass specifically because the devs themselves have encouraged it, hit floor 50, and then still get the regular unit (which again, atleast 80% of players bare minimum will NOT get the shiny even with shiny hunter), they're going to feel cheated

Its why it makes more sense for me to be portals, grinding for the unit by itself is already gonna take a while unless your pretty lucky, even longer for the shiny, and since seasonal banners arent gonna last as long as the winter one did going forward, there's a bigger ticking clock

[mental vapor]

I am 100 percent sure He is a worldline unit

[subtle torrent]

Overall, again though, no matter the take, nothing can be 100% proven until tomorrow

[mental vapor]

Nah i am in the dev team

Rn programming

200 percent sure. If i am wrong. They can wipe @umbral marsh account

[small spade]

Not unless I leak it rn

[subtle torrent]

[full magnet]

Yes because god forbid there be a reason to hit monarch pity

Also I’m not sure if you didn’t watch the trailer and just heard rimurus getting added but all his his attacks and his form shown is pre demon lord form, as av ages there will be a time where things that are already in the game garner hype. If the slime anime has a ton of hype around it and is doing amazing and they decide to do a full update for it they can simply give rimuru his newer forms through evolutions

Or if av ages enough to become similar to Als they’ll just randomly give older units their newer forms like Als

The difference being av doesn’t look horrible like als

[ripe quarry]

Giving evo to a limited unit

[full magnet]

In the trailer it said he’s a limited unit?

I must of missed it

show me where

So you’re just assuming

Remember what happened when people assumed things about sukuna

And if they decide they wanted to do an update based around slime do you really think they’d just go “oh boy we made it limited guess we can’t do anything”

[small spade]

Yes?

[full magnet]

So if they genuinely wanted to do a slime update and there was tons of hype from the anime they’d just not do it is what you’re saying?

what a shame this means there will never be a slime update ever

because they added one unit as a limited once

[small spade]

I mean, they're most certainly not doing an evo for it

And it wouldn't make much sense to release the unit as part of a limited update and then re-release it later

[full magnet]

Then they literally can’t ever do a slime update

[small spade]

They could add more of the characters as part of later updates at least

[full magnet]

he’s the mc

[small spade]

Yes

You can't do future content based on stuff that's already limited and gone

[full magnet]

the people would complain so much if the mc of the anime they like just couldn’t get added because they added him as a limited once

[full magnet]

I’d say the literal developers of the game can bend that rule

[small spade]

They can

But it'd be an INCREDIBLY stupid decision

Unless they re-release the unit, which would open a whole new can of worms in pissing people off

[full magnet]

It’s not a vanguard he’s an exclusive he’d be obtainable through the theoretical trading that’s getting added anyways

[small spade]

It has nothing to do with the unit rarity

[full magnet]

I think that if they genuinely wanted to do a slime update and the anime was doing extremely well like solo leveling level even with the people that would complain about 1 unit being re released it couldn’t be worse than the response from the gg update

[small spade]

What's the point of making something limited and exclusive if they're just going to release it later?

[full magnet]

Because the limited unit is shit

[small spade]

???

[full magnet]

rimuru isn’t going to be some insane unit that you miss out on

like Dante or Vergil

[small spade]

You literally haven't even seen the units yet

[full magnet]

He’ll get powercrept eventually by the time in this theoretical scenario of slime doing extremely well

I’d doubt he’s going to be some kind of Dante or Vergil

[small spade]

Oh well, such is the game

Reruns of the unit defeats the purpose of them being limited/exclusive
and making content that revolves around said unit just sticks up a big fat middle finger to people that either didn't get him or weren't even playing at the time, saying "hey, here's this point of content you can't access"

[full magnet]

Then they shouldn’t release the main character of an anime that has potential to do well in the future

it’s like if they decided to add every mc from every anime as a limited unit then they cut off all potential for that anime

The only way to combat that in this hypothetical is to rerun the 1 unit that’s the main character

[small spade]

I mean, that would be the case

That's why they don't do it

[full magnet]

I’m excited for saitama and then the mc from lord of mysteries and all of them to get added as limited so they never get a full update

[glad eagle]

Do the slime anime have more characters? Cause people always talk about rimuru and thats it

So ig it could be a eis case

[full magnet]

I’m not a big fan of it personally but the people who are into like multiple of the characters

I know like 4 rimuru milim veldora and clay man

[small spade]

I don't think they'd do saitama as a sole exclusive unit when other characters draw just as much potential and hype that they could at the very least make a .5 update out of

for rimuru, though, he's literally the only character I've ever heard people talk about lol

[full magnet]

Thus just means slime doesn’t have much potential then

Like it’s not very popular

Compared to other things for example fire force

But let’s say slime suddenly did really well like solo leveling

then it’s a mistake

[small spade]

[edgy basin]

nobody is really relevant but rimuru

[small spade]

Congrats, you figured out the flaw of people not being able to see into the future

Even fire force has just been getting things slowly added bit by bit

[full magnet]

If only there was a way to counteract that maybe by not adding the mc from the franchise

Shucks

[full magnet]

Not the main character as a limited

For example if they released sun jin woo as a limited because solo leveling isn’t the kind of peak fiction in which you’d expect to be as successful as it is

that’s all I’m saying

[small spade]

Yes, but characters have been slowly added as limited units. So it wouldn't make much sense to release a whole fire force update in the future, would it?

Rimuru is about the only character that really matters from the series

[full magnet]

doesn’t do much when they add someone insignificant from the series

[small spade]

If they wanna do other characters, they'll probably come in the future

simple as that

[full magnet]

In comparison to if they added shinra as a standalone limited

[glad eagle]

GOKU ULTRA INSTINCT LIMITED

[full magnet]

re read my points again I’m sick of restating the same over and over just for you to not understand it

[glad eagle]

I remember that one td did a gear 5 limited lmao

[full magnet]

Lmao genius

[small spade]

And I'm sick of trying to explain very simple points. If they wanna do a slime update in the future, it'd have to be some advanced form of Rimuru as an entirely separate unit. Otherwise? The update's likely ruled out. Simple as that

[full magnet]

Hilarious how you’re disagreeing with what you said previously

[agile heron]

I dont think he is

[full magnet]

This is your first time stating this point in which I agree with

[agile heron]

how do we shiny hunt a unit that u can only get one time?

[full magnet]

did they say conquest is from worldines?

how do I keep missing all of this info

[agile heron]

no but

from all of the hints they've been giving us

[full magnet]

[agile heron]

I have a high reason to believe he's more like the secret unit from portal

[full magnet]

They also hinted at sukuna

look what happened

[agile heron]

nah this is different like

[full magnet]

Unless they flat out state something I never make assumptions

[agile heron]

wl units don't get their own title cards
asking us to buy shiny hunter?

[full magnet]

?

My guess is he’s a secret portal unit

[agile heron]

yeah he is

at least to my guess

[full magnet]

And you’ll be able to wear Omni man skin or something

But I don’t think shiny hunter applies to that

so it’s not that

[small spade]

No?

[full magnet]

Agree to disagree whatever you’re right

this has dragged on too long

[small spade]

I said that in regards to "them deciding to add every mc from every anime as a limited unit and cutting off all potential for those animes"

Because that would be stupid

[umbral iron]

we should get the game banned for adding rimuru

[acoustic merlin]

wait did u just confirm rimuru portal secret unit 🥹🥹🥹

[small spade]

I never disagreed with that lol

[agile heron]

rimuru is 100% wl

[full magnet]

oh ok I misinterpreted you then

[small spade]

I said she

[agile heron]

conquest secret portal

rimuru cant be banner bc it dont make sense to do that

[full magnet]

Why wouldn’t it make sense?

[glad eagle]

Me when i cope

[full magnet]

anything can be on banner I don’t see any limitation

[umbral iron]

he will

[agile heron]

bc its just not her at all (she has nothing to do with spring) but the rest of the characters that were shown in the trailer at least has a reason to do with spring including kaguya

[umbral iron]

her?

💀

[small spade]

what if conquest was the wl unit

[agile heron]

well i don't believe it

sorry

[full magnet]

It’s a .5 update it doesn’t really need a theme

[umbral iron]

everyone would do leadboards

[glad eagle]

Idk, everyone expects that

[umbral iron]

i will hunt for leadboard

[agile heron]

worldlines cant be shiny hunted they wouldnt do a whole sneakpeak for a shiny that will only be owned by like 2% of ppl
worldline units dont get their own title card ✌️

[umbral iron]

i will pay for rerolls

if conquest is wl

[full magnet]

For example the cid update wasn’t like super eminence in shadow theme it just added some units

[acoustic merlin]

I dont understand you sent something that leaked the update ? why they saying u leaked everything

[small spade]

It was a joke

[full magnet]

Fun fact, everything the testers say isn’t absolute and true

[runic frost]

Fun fact, lying is fun

[full magnet]

If you didn’t know the testers aren’t almighty

[glad eagle]

Idk, havent watched it but, eis has another interesting characters apart from cid?

[glad eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[umbral iron]

no

[runic frost]

Just his alter egos

[full magnet]

we need more people like you

need more funding for the dev team

[umbral iron]

im willing to go bankrupt for conquest

[full magnet]

Idk about that far

a healthy dose

[small spade]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[umbral iron]

im willing to rob a bank for conquest

[small spade]

I love spreading lies to the playerbase

[full magnet]

Anime vanguards does not promote crime or any illegal activities

[small spade]

That way they'll never believe me if I do leak

[umbral iron]

conquest will be something special if he is getting a own banner for profile

[full magnet]

People say you leak shit all the time and then they say if you’re lying you’ll get your tester removed

because you have to tell the truth according to them

[runic frost]

😭

[small spade]

they also think everything out of my mouth has to be glazing the game

and that I'm not allowed to think for myself

[glad eagle]

Me when i gaslight

[glad eagle]

People have THOUGHTS????1

[acoustic merlin]

i hope the update will be on a good time for eu

[full magnet]

This guy was trying to convince me the gg update was gonna be delayed by 2 weeks bc of this lmao

[umbral iron]

hell nah

[runic frost]

😭
how long do they think testing units takes lol

[agile heron]

quest line?

[umbral iron]

people believe everything

[full magnet]

you do a fair amount of glazing to be honest

[glad eagle]

1 minute bc of the bugs

[high nacelle]

Is kaguya good

[umbral iron]

10 days

[runic frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1292077547030315011/1375376917946962011/7320831648431688416.gif

[acoustic merlin]

ofcourse

[glad eagle]

Mods mods! Animal abuse!

[umbral iron]

full aoe repulse

[acoustic merlin]

kaguya have some insane potential

[runic frost]

shes actually just a pain skin

[glad eagle]

Astolfo powercreept already 😭

[full magnet]

once i can finally spend my saved rerolls i shall glaze as well for a while

[small spade]

I glaze what I think is fine, and will gladly complain about things I genuinely dislike/disagree with

[agile heron]

who is the rerolls for?

who are you most hyped for

[high nacelle]

How do you save rrs

[full magnet]

The next one placement unit

I roll blitz on anything that’s not a one placement

[glad eagle]

We see the monarch bro

[small spade]

Unfortunately there's also things behind the scenes that I know about that make my glazing look a lot more unjustified sometimes

[glad eagle]

Relatable

[agile heron]

its easy

[full magnet]

Pity is here for a reason

[umbral iron]

conquest

[small spade]

like hibana being the secret portal unit

[umbral iron]

she what

[high nacelle]

Idk once I get 200 rrs I just rolling on random units

[umbral iron]

let me put my glasses

[small spade]

Because it's setting up something for the future

[full magnet]

I feel like she’d be worldines but idk I’m horrible at predicting anything

[umbral iron]

i think i read bad

[glad eagle]

Ill let you read again

[runic frost]

nah shes a bundle unit
first p2w av unit

[small spade]

I think im also just fucking lying

[full magnet]

Lmao can’t wait

[high nacelle]

😿

[runic frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1322562258693394432/1385356449756217435/caption.gif

[glad eagle]

Same as the current bundle

[full magnet]

I like the monarch pity and few one placements so I can actually get monarch on everything that needs monarch to perform like Gogeta

[small spade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1322562258693394432/1385356449756217435/caption.gif?ex=6855c53c&is=685473bc&hm=b13b9388b6115c2280d82dabeddd7cc960a5c7fd2b175f5d16d1cb76b8897d3c&

[full magnet]

Oh yeah what is this thread about also I didn’t read all of op’s complaining

was to quick to start yapping about something else

[runic frost]

making slime into a event unit instead of its own update

[full magnet]

that was it?

[runic frost]

yea thats the whole suggestion

[umbral iron]

doesn't rimuru have like a lot of forms

[full magnet]

yeah a lot and there’s a light novel where he’s like multiversal or something

[high nacelle]

Rimuru or rudeus as the portal secret will make me happy

[umbral iron]

then op was a idiot 🥀

[umbral iron]

no no
merlin secret portal
trust me

[subtle torrent]

I mean afaik neither does rudeus or the moon girl

[full magnet]

I was saying that they could just give rimuru his forms because the rimuru ingame is base but I didn’t know he was a spring banner unit

[subtle torrent]

so by process of elimination

[umbral iron]

people complain about the other characters but i don't see anyone asking why merlin of all the 7ds lol

diane was right there 🥀

[full magnet]

Which time do they show up?

idk them

[agile heron]

diane will just be raw dps unit

boring

[high nacelle]

Honestly people probably think she is jsut gonna be a banner unit so they don’t really care

[agile heron]

merlin has supports kit

and we need more support units

[subtle torrent]

tbf i have no idea why they picked rimuru for this

he's not a character you put on a throwaway seasonal banner

[runic frost]

idk what time in the vid it is

[umbral iron]

merlin the goat

🐐

[agile heron]

i think the character decisions are pretty odd?

[runic frost]

is slime really that popular? i watched the first 2 seasons and i dont even know any of the characters besides rimuru

[full magnet]

She’s the one who had like the dimension seal stuff?

[subtle torrent]

Isn't it the most popular series in the isekai genre

or atleast like top 5

[runic frost]

idk
i never got past season 1 of 7ds😭

[crude creek]

thought it would be re zero or konosuba

[runic frost]

top 5 isekais isnt really saying much

theres like 3 good ones

[full magnet]

That means that they doubt the anime will ever do well enough to get its own update

[umbral iron]

konosuba full upd when

[umbral iron]

people only known
rimuru, rimuru slime form, demon king rimuru and rimuru before isekaed

[subtle torrent]

I mean its arguably one of the most recongizable isekais

so feels like an odd conclusion on their part

[glad eagle]

U aint missing nothing tbh

[high nacelle]

What’s like the average maintenance for av

[glad eagle]

Its pretty bad

[umbral iron]

8 hours

[runic frost]

like 2 hours
ignore last one

[glad eagle]

Theres like 3 good characters

[subtle torrent]

about 5 hours i'd say

[umbral iron]

escanor,king and ban ✌️

[subtle torrent]

it was only rlly upd 6.5's that had an egregiously long maintenance time

[high nacelle]

K

[full magnet]

Since they said it’s releasing Friday they already established a deadline so they’ll probably start maintenance earlier than last time so it doesn’t release an extra day from when they said

[runic frost]

lowkey this one shouldnt be long
this should be one of our best launches bug wise
-# i hope im not jinxing it

[full magnet]

Is isekai popular as a genre tho?

[subtle torrent]

tbh i wouldnt expect this one to take long regardless

[full magnet]

I don’t really watch much anime I only read stuff

[subtle torrent]

since we're not dealing with gamemodes

[umbral iron]

last minute delay please

[high nacelle]

If it’s just portals I don’t expect much bugs the love portal and winter were pretty good

[glad eagle]

Should i be hyped if theres no bugs?

[full magnet]

You don’t have your worldines done?

Or no Gogeta?

[umbral iron]

i still didn't evo my emilia

[subtle torrent]

I'd say its not like a forefront genre or anything like that, but tensura still kinda goes beyond it

[umbral iron]

work is annoying 🥀

we should pray for a bug that makes you get the secret portal from any portal tier

[subtle torrent]

like most people when they think of it don't immediately go to 'yup, isekai' despite that being its genre (idk how to word this)

[full magnet]

No I don’t want to finish the update in 3 days

[runic frost]

For alot of ppl when they hear isekai they think of the generic slop that's pumped out constantly

Not actual good works

[subtle torrent]

yeah

Slime imo kinda escapes that

which is why it stands out more

[full magnet]

That’s what I think like, “I was the pope in my world until I was reincarnated and surrounded by thick anime demon waifus, can I stay strong and not sin in order to keep my heavenly super magic in which I gained from my previously life which was given to me from a goddess who reincarnated me in another world?”

They always have super long titles

[runic frost]

Yea
Reincarnated as a vending machine
Reincarnated as a apple

[night jungle]

even tho i think rimuru should be a vanguard unit
the anime is just so eh that it lowkey kills it so i rlly dont mind it

[full magnet]

LMAO WYM VENDING MACHINE

you can’t be serious

[subtle torrent]

nah thats legit

[full magnet]

Is it like a small manga?

[subtle torrent]

thats an actual series

[full magnet]

some guy made

[runic frost]

https://tenor.com/view/reborn-as-a-vending-machine-vending-machine-gif-11682371891240018527

[runic frost]

Mc btw

[full magnet]

You have to be fucking with me

is it a fan made thing on YouTube?

[runic frost]

No a real anime

[full magnet]

like when people try to make their own shows

What’s the title?

[runic frost]

https://tenor.com/view/boxxo-lammis-arigato-gozaimasu-reborn-as-a-vending-machine-i-now-wander-the-dungeon-gif-12625645575995647646

[runic frost]

Reincarnated as a vending machine

Iirc the apple one is real too

[full magnet]

No way

Why is the search about season 2

[runic frost]

Wait nvm my title was off

[full magnet]

Who could possibly want this to have another season

[runic frost]

Reborn as a Vending Machine, I Now Wander the Dungeon

It's getting a season 2 next month

[full magnet]

A man with a passion for vending machines awakens to realize that he has not only died, but he has also been reborn as one of his beloved machines! Although he is a modern appliance in a fantasy world, he requires money in order to keep functioning. He is stuck in one location until a young girl named Lammis stumbles upon him. Amazed by the drinks and food he sells, Lammis uses her "Blessing of Might" to lift him with ease and take him back to the village of Clearflow Lake. There, she officially dubs him Boxxo.

💀

[umbral iron]

i do

is peak bro

🥀

[subtle torrent]

Im convinced the author for that series genuinely just one day decided to throw shit at the wall, it stuck, and he was like "oh shit this caught on? alr let's see how long i can keep this going for"

[full magnet]

But a animes don’t even make much money

I don’t get why

[subtle torrent]

thats what i mean

[full magnet]

Don’t they need to sell apparel to actually generate income

[subtle torrent]

its just for the love of the game

[full magnet]

Maybe it’s powered by the Chinese government

Unlimited budget

[subtle torrent]

the latest in social experiment ingenuity

[full magnet]

They’ll get people addicted to their unlimited slop generation then they’ll suddenly cut us off and we’ll have to go to China for it

This will fix their underpopulation issue

[austere breach]

why would they publicly announce it

[odd violet]

I hope rim gets powercrept in one update

[subtle torrent]

Rim?

Pacific rim?

[odd violet]

Gipsy danger monarch????!!!??!?!???

Shiny monarch vanguard Gipsy danger 7.0

[subtle torrent]

Vanguard striker eureka

[chilly zephyr]

Do you mean in general or just AA’s system

[chilly zephyr]

Rem?

[runic frost]

aa's system that almost every single atd has coppied

[odd violet]

Rimuru

[chilly zephyr]

Oh😭

[chilly zephyr]

So what about AV’s trait system

[odd violet]

My lazy ass can’t type the extra uru

[runic frost]

yea same thing
monarch existing = bad

monarch fundamentally breaks the game

[chilly zephyr]

Bruhhh

[odd violet]

But I love my monarchs :((

[chilly zephyr]

Idk why but I like how monarchs work

For the regular player they take a long ass time to get so its satisfying when you get one

I doubt AV would be as fun if it didnt exist

[odd violet]

I think they’re better than uniques in AA cuz they aren’t needed and they’re easier to get for low spenders/f2p so it rewards consistent play

[chilly zephyr]

Well I wouldn’t say aren’t needed

[runic frost]

monarchs leaves you with 2 options

1. game is balanced around traits that arent monarch and monarch players never have any difficult stages
2. game is balanced around monarch and if you dont have one you cannot play the game
   it only somewhat works in games like als where they give so many rrs with good rates that getting the monarch equivalents are easy

[chilly zephyr]

But yea they are definitely easier to get than AA

[odd violet]

I didn’t play after the shutdown, but gamemodes like the winter event and the sakamoto bounties looked very unique needing

[chilly zephyr]

AV is more of a mix of both

[odd violet]

Also there was some daily challenges I couldn’t beat with max players and uniques

[runic frost]

after their nerf sakamoto ones werent really
they became pretty easy

[chilly zephyr]

ALS is a balancing mess I wouldn’t exactly say it works

[runic frost]

yea
als in general is just a easy game

[odd violet]

Ah okay good to know

[runic frost]

its as casual as a game can get

[odd violet]

Ngl these games should be casual, LB content should be the hard or end game stuff. I would like harder things to do but then EX stages pissed everyone off and now I don’t think I’ll even get them as a side option with better rates

[chilly zephyr]

The thing is AV is supposed to be challenging

And I’d say there is tons of casual content in AV tbh

But games like ALS don’t really have both, like tournaments in ALS is literally just getting meta units every upd, no strategy required

[odd violet]

Is it? I’ve played since release and I never felt like it was anything challenging after you get out of the “new player” era

[runic frost]

av is pretty casual
the only content that is really hard for your average player outside of lb stuff is hard mode cid raid and ex stage

[chilly zephyr]

Can’t really agree, I’ve also played since release and I would say that for most updates, on release the gamemodes/stages were difficult or atleast required some brain power to complete

[odd violet]

The only time I felt that was with raids, spider raid had the snare mechanic and then the SBR raid had sturdy

[chilly zephyr]

Yea exactly

[ripe quarry]

The brain: bring bleed to sukuna boss rush.

And then we were surprised by the amount of people that were complaining because they didnt even know that

[odd violet]

Both of those mechanics became trivial after you engage with them the first time

I found snare more annoying if anything and study was only really hard cuz Julius was the only water unit worth using

[chilly zephyr]

Toji was all u really needed

Or momo since nature also worked

[odd violet]

Oh yeah I forgot toji also worked for it

[chilly zephyr]

So sad tojis out of the meta 💔 💔

Used to carry paragon back in the day

[odd violet]

I got eth on my first one, then wasted hundreds of RR on my shiny one trying to get monarch cuz I thought paragon would still exist 😭😭

[chilly zephyr]

😭 😭

Did you get one atleast

[odd violet]

He’s on deadeye rn 🙏

[chilly zephyr]

Noo😭 😭

[odd violet]

It’s fine I have a habit of wasting RR on units that fall off or don’t need monarch

[chilly zephyr]

just like me fr

Spent almost 1k rerolls trying to get diavolo monarch

I got it but at what cost💔

[odd violet]

I saved up 1400 RR for update cuz I love GG, just to waste 600 on astolfo cuz I thought monarch would be his best trait

[chilly zephyr]

I mean it is😭

[odd violet]

6 million spirits down and I didn’t get him

[chilly zephyr]

Unless marksman is better

[chilly zephyr]

Thats tragic bro

I only used like 3M and managed to get two

[odd violet]

I have marksman on him rn, should have saved them for my shiny elphelt im 900ish down on her ima roll until monarch ima do the same when I get shiny baiken. Need them to reset ranked tho cuz I can’t get any more cu I can’t find matches

[odd violet]

Yo when trading comes out hit me up I got half a Kit Kat for you

[chilly zephyr]

😭 😭

Half a kit kat does sound good

[chilly zephyr]

Bro doing PVP is so annoying because majority of people just log

[odd violet]

Don’t ask how I got 17 baikens day one 🧍‍♂️

[chilly zephyr]

And then you have to go all the way back to lobby to get another queue

I wish you could just press queue right after an opponent leaves

[chilly zephyr]

.

Bro abused tf out that quest glitch😭

[odd violet]

🤫 she’s my main in strive I gotta

[chilly zephyr]

Did you get any shinies atleast😭

[odd violet]

Baikens? HELL nah

[chilly zephyr]

17 and no shiny wtf😭

Do you have shiny hunter?

[odd violet]

I’m 3/6 rn for GG shinies, I need baiken Sin and Sol

[odd violet]

I do, took me 24 elphelts to get her shiny tho

[chilly zephyr]

Whos sin

[odd violet]

Gear boy

[chilly zephyr]

Holy shit ur luck is awful😭

[chilly zephyr]

Ohh

[odd violet]

This update has NOT been it for me, I did get shiny dizzy monarch and shiny Dark mage monarch in 200 rolls the start of update tho

Wasted all my luck I’m half a million gems down on sol badguy banners with luck potions and no shiny

[chilly zephyr]

Ok bros trait luck is crazy

[odd violet]

On my road for my 14th monarch 🙏

[chilly zephyr]

Half a million💔 save some gems for next upd bro

[odd violet]

I won’t need any it’s an event banner

[chilly zephyr]

Oh yea true

Is it fr just going to be a portal upd

[odd violet]

I would otherwise

[odd violet]

Yeah it’s an event banner

[chilly zephyr]

Last time they added an event it was fate + winter portals

[odd violet]

No I thought it was just winter portal for the .5

[chilly zephyr]

It came on a .0

[odd violet]

Oh fr? I’m tripping then

[chilly zephyr]

Nvm im wrong☠️

[runic frost]

what
fate was 2.0
winter was 3.0

[odd violet]

Ohhhh

[chilly zephyr]

Oh

So it was after saber boss rush?

[runic frost]

bleach

[odd violet]

Need an AV update timeline on the wiki frfr

[chilly zephyr]

Oh it was winter upd, saber boss rush

Then bleach

[chilly zephyr]

Yea thatd be rly good

Hard to keep up with all these updates😭

[runic frost]

https://animevanguards.fandom.com/wiki/Update_Log

[odd violet]

Glad to see my suggestions are being taken seriously

Quick turn around

[chilly zephyr]

Damn its been 6 months since the last level rewards extension🥀

We need lvl 200 rewards

[ripe quarry]

Only macaroni people reached that lvl ngl

[odd violet]

They won’t do it cuz of 🥭. I’m pretty sure

I say in level 304

[chilly zephyr]

Majority of tower defense players use macaronis

[runic frost]

they prob arent coming
if they were they would have cared about ppl using aizen bug to hit level 1k

[chilly zephyr]

🥀

It is what it is ig

Atleast we get 200 free rerolls from
This upd

[odd violet]

Not enough for me, they need to give me more so I can monarch my elphelt

[crude creek]

it ends up becoming 50 rerolls because of inflation

[odd violet]

They put tariffs on event banner

[chilly zephyr]

AV inflation 🥀 🥀

[chilly zephyr]

Give it up broski😭 💔

[odd violet]

As long as pity exist it’ll happen, eventually

[chilly zephyr]

But will it be worth it

[coral falcon]

They took it down 😦

[chilly zephyr]

?

[odd violet]

It will be to have a full profile of shiny monarchs

Also elphelt is my bae

[odd violet]

I’m not surprised 😭

[coral falcon]

If only they worked as fast updating rhe game from maintenance

[odd violet]

Normally it’s not that long I’m used to having to deal with 3 hour maintenance or long from actual games last update was insane but I guess it was cuz of PvP

[silk pasture]

This is peak

[mental vapor]

Then just play at the time, where He is available 🐢

[night jungle]

Sigh

[dusky sparrow]

Dude do u even play the game?

That what stages are for

LITERALLY

[thorny sorrel]

GOKU SANS

[daring fulcrum]

nobody wants kaguya..

if they made madara the vanguard this would have a much bigger outlook because it’s madara

nobody likes kaguya as a character and shes just strong

[small spade]

Again

That’s exactly why she was picked for a random seasonal event

[daring fulcrum]

??? but people liked diavolo and gogeta

this is a horrible pick

[small spade]

And madara still has the potential for a full fledged Naruto update

[full magnet]

Check polls a considerable amount of people would take kaguya over invincible albeit less she’s not as hated as you make it out to be

[small spade]

If they did him as the spring banner vanguard, they wouldnt have any reason to do anything with him as a unit in an actual Naruto update

[daring fulcrum]

they can make juubito the vanguard then and make juubidara the naruto update

[full magnet]

People are just complaining they madara won’t be a vanguard in the future or it will be a while until they add madara as a vanguard since supposedly they only do one every 3 months or 4 a year

[small spade]

That sounds like a terrible idea. Why split them up?

[full magnet]

Who even is that

[small spade]

Also don’t we literally have an obito unit

[daring fulcrum]

idk since kaguya would be apart of it, why not just replace her with someone likable

[daring fulcrum]

yes we do so why can’t we just have juubito?

[small spade]

Because it’s not a matter of being “likeable”

[full magnet]

There is one so it’d have to be a double evo if they wanted to build off of that

[daring fulcrum]

not for an evo but a vanguard

[small spade]

That’s not the point

Plenty of people still like the character

[full magnet]

Kaguya seems alot more complex than juubito

[daring fulcrum]

it is because a community wants the character… it’s different when you make a character that is boring to people

[small spade]

That’s exactly my point though. Why do a banner vanguard for it when we have a unit with potential

[umbral iron]

mfs really want to waste such a good unit for a seasonal banner

[daring fulcrum]

i guess but shes probably gonna be a gogeta reskin

[umbral iron]

[small spade]

People still like kaguya

[full magnet]

???

[daring fulcrum]

portals around the map

[small spade]

Just because YOU don’t

[daring fulcrum]

and a big aoe nuke probably

[small spade]

Doesn’t mean she was a bad pick

[full magnet]

I originally didn’t like her because in the anime she looked very mediocre but ingame she looks great

And she has a nuke

[daring fulcrum]

because AV can make any character look good

[umbral iron]

Dandandan units...

[daring fulcrum]

they looked good?

[full magnet]

What does juubito have that’s more unique than kaguya

[umbral iron]

we are lying now

[daring fulcrum]

cooler vfx potential because kaguya just has bone shards

[umbral iron]

🥀

[small spade]

Also saying she’s “just a gogeta reskin” is so far from the truth

[full magnet]

Have you not even watched the trailer?

[daring fulcrum]

juubito has tailed beast bombs, the mt blade or wtv, kamui, ect

[full magnet]

Woah explosions and slicing

so much more unique than kaguya

[daring fulcrum]

he could actually use kamui as an ability

kaguya can make portals bro

is that really unique?

[full magnet]

Dk what that is tell me or show me

[umbral iron]

so waste the opportunity to bring back a old unit to the meta for no reason

[full magnet]

No he’s right they are gonna give kaguya instant transmission and she’ll travel around the map

[daring fulcrum]

its where he uses his sharingan to put them in another dimension

[full magnet]

Trust me I know this

[daring fulcrum]

it can be some kind of stay place to group up enemies and kill them off

[full magnet]

I’m a junior junior trainee beginner tester

[daring fulcrum]

she has portals that let her do this

[full magnet]

Woah dimensions guess what kaguya does

[umbral iron]

so just a freeze with extra steps

[full magnet]

Exactly

[umbral iron]

[small spade]

So true, we’re not even releasing a unit, the vanguard is actually just a skin for seasonal banner 🗣️

[daring fulcrum]

you can say any stun is a freeze with extra steps

[daring fulcrum]

this would be fine with me

[small spade]

This would be terrible for most everyone else lmao

[small spade]

The playerbase would despise a vanguard skin

[daring fulcrum]

why?

[umbral iron]

bro really hate kaguya

[small spade]

💀

“Why”

[daring fulcrum]

could be like a saber skin or smth idk

[crude creek]

You want one?

[umbral iron]

bro what

[full magnet]

And you already know conquest is a BUNDLE UNITTT ANIME MONEYGUARDS YESHHHH BABY 🤑🤑🤑🔥🔥

[daring fulcrum]

yes i would instead of kaguya

[umbral iron]

💀

[marble glade]

Can this reach 50 skulls and be on spotdark

[daring fulcrum]

unfortunately no

[small spade]

Like a 1/20000 drop just for a cosmetic wouldn’t make people fume that they grinded for the really rare drop and it did fucking NOTHING, yeah that’d be a great idea

[full magnet]

Yeah because they both totally fit together

[daring fulcrum]

why would you grind for it?

it’s something you get off the moment

unless you really really want it

[umbral iron]

dude

[daring fulcrum]

like alucard

[full magnet]

Buddy has never heard of afk chamber

[daring fulcrum]

i guess bro idk

[small spade]

The point of the vanguard

[daring fulcrum]

that doesnt explain why you would grind for it

[small spade]

Is to give people something to grind the event for

[daring fulcrum]

no, the other units are because most people want characters like ragna or subaru or even the fire force ice dude

nobody will want to grind for kaguya bro

[marble glade]

Would be nice this one is not another one placement

[umbral iron]

ragna

[daring fulcrum]

ragna is actually cool

[small spade]

You can get those all in like a few days or so

[full magnet]

There’s event characters to grind for on the banner, and a secret portal unit, and a new worldline, and as a bonus there’s an additional unit that’s difficult to get that will actually take a significant amount of time to get depending on your luck

[small spade]

Then what?

[crude creek]

It is instead a 2 placement

[daring fulcrum]

then if you really want to grind for the vanguard you could

[marble glade]

Ragna the goat

[small spade]

If there was no banner vanguard, there’d be no real reason to keep playing the event

[marble glade]

Im lowkey fine with that

Way better than just 1

[small spade]

Just because YOU don’t like kaguya

[daring fulcrum]

what happens whwn you get the vanguardv

[small spade]

Tough shit

[daring fulcrum]

?

[marble glade]

The perfect placement would be 3

[full magnet]

Also there’s zero reason to have monarch pity because they don’t add one placements other than vanguards

[daring fulcrum]

then what after the vanguard and u finish the update

[umbral iron]

you destroy the game

[small spade]

When you get the vanguard, then you can finally be done with the event

[daring fulcrum]

true

[full magnet]

If they didn’t add one placements I’d have 10k rerolls rn waiting for a unit that actually needs monarch

[daring fulcrum]

thats actually a good idea

[small spade]

But guess what? The vanguard isn’t something you feasibly grind out in two days

[small spade]

I got some bad news then

[daring fulcrum]

do u need to grind for the vanguard though????

[full magnet]

unless you’re sigma like me and you get it in 200k presents

[marble glade]

[daring fulcrum]

i dont think u understand if somebody doesn’t want/like the character they have no reason to grind for it other than “it’s meta”

[small spade]

Of course not. You don’t need to grind any of the units if you wanna be that reductive.

[full magnet]

There’s barely any one placements man let me have a reason to get a monarch

[umbral iron]

one placement characters are boring as hell

[daring fulcrum]

yea, but your saying that there has to be a vanguard to grind for to finish the update

[full magnet]

Then don’t get any units ever unless they are your favorite then come back when your favorite units get added and you can suffer with your weak ass characters while you try to clear the new content

[full magnet]

There’s literally 1

[daring fulcrum]

if new units get added that are my favorite they’ll be better than older characters

[full magnet]

There’s 1 relevant one placement character rn

[umbral iron]

gogeta,astolfo and someone else i forgot

[full magnet]

“Relevant”

[daring fulcrum]

and im saying this because diavolo and gogeta were actually cool vanguard characters

[small spade]

Yes, that is the entire point of the absurdly low rate banner unit, because it’s something for people to chase that artificially inflates playtime because getting it is down to a matter of luck

[daring fulcrum]

the cutscenes the characters themself were cool

[umbral iron]

astolfo is not relevant?

[full magnet]

Astolfo is not a character you chase monarch on

[daring fulcrum]

yes but it’s dependant on if that player actually wants the unit…

[full magnet]

there’s diavolo who barely any has and gogeta and that’s it for the one placements even though diavolo is a 2 placement

[small spade]

Again, just because you don’t like the unit doesn’t mean everyone else doesn’t either. People like kaguya. People will like her kit. People will want to grind for her. The choice of the unit has been made and it was not a bad choice. So just suck it up and live with it

[full magnet]

We’ll see if you’re right based on how the update does then I doubt it’s so horrible it’s gonna kill the game

[marble glade]

Monarch is legit the best trait for almost every single unit unless you do lb inf

I want the unit to be goated without monarch

Since is a damn 0.004%

[daring fulcrum]

it was a bad choice when we have juubito instead for naruto.. maybe even for one piece a uta unit would be sick, a first vanguard support (diavolo is useless)

[marble glade]

Def not useless

[small spade]

Who tf cares

She’s strong

She has a cool kit

[marble glade]

But gogeta and vsjw slams

[small spade]

Nobody does her for a unit

[full magnet]

So do I because that makes it even better with monarch it being a 1 placement is for balancing

[daring fulcrum]

this update was a step in the right direction but god did they fumble by not adding the skins as characters

[daring fulcrum]

why not MUI goku as the vanguard then

[full magnet]

if your unit is goated without monarch so to speak then with monarch it’ll be even better is it that complicated?

[umbral iron]

dude

[daring fulcrum]

better yet

[marble glade]

Legit 1 placement is the main reason of breaking the balance 😭

[daring fulcrum]

what about super broly as the vanguard?

[umbral iron]

do you really want to waste mui goku as a seasonal vanguard

[marble glade]

Seems like you didnt play aa

[full magnet]

Seems you play infinite then

[daring fulcrum]

kaguya is the final villain of naruto

and she’s “wasted” on a seasonal banner

[small spade]

And she has cool potential for a vanguard kit

[full magnet]

Oh no there’s a 2nd one placement in the game

games gone

dead

[small spade]

Because nobody would’ve wanted vanguard kaguya for a full fledged Naruto update

[marble glade]

Hope she is based on support and not dps

[daring fulcrum]

they had cool potential for a vanguard kit with gleeful disorder

[full magnet]

Support with a nuke?

To me it just seems like you’re coping bc you can’t save enough rrs to ever hit pity

[marble glade]

Astolfo is a good example of 1 placement unit done correctly

Monarch is an option rather than a must have

[full magnet]

Yeah a unit that’s horrible with monarch

[umbral iron]

the nuke is just a global repulse 🔥

[small spade]

She’ll be usable without monarch

Unlike gogeta

[full magnet]

🗣️ 🔥

[marble glade]

W

[daring fulcrum]

then they still could have done invincible as the vanguard

[umbral iron]

a support vanguard

[arctic dragon]

yeah we'll see about that buddy

[umbral iron]

crazy

[daring fulcrum]

and made conquest a exclusive

[full magnet]

ig I’ll keep saving rrs

[marble glade]

The game is still called anime vanguards

[daring fulcrum]

ok

?

[full magnet]

Isn’t invincible literally animated

[umbral iron]

invincible vanguards

[daring fulcrum]

anime - animation

sooo

[small spade]

There’s no way you’re serious lmao

[marble glade]

Are u fr

[daring fulcrum]

he would make it so much better as a vanguard

unique kit

[full magnet]

Blacklist this person from applying for anything ever

[small spade]

I’m sure dudes that just punch and punch would make for a very interesting vanguard kit

[daring fulcrum]

not available for a full update

[small spade]

You’re just ragebaiting atp

[daring fulcrum]

diavolos most unique part of his kit is time erase and gogetas is teleporting

[frank pumice]

LOL

[full magnet]

It’s animated it being from Japan isn’t that deep lmao

[frank pumice]

That's so true though

[small spade]

There’s no way you can tell me with a straight face that Invincible would make for a cooler kit than Kaguya

[arctic dragon]

i will always advocate for a persona update because it has mad potential

[daring fulcrum]

jin woo has his shadows as the best part but their still not that even unique

[daring fulcrum]

cooking

[daring fulcrum]

he would have actually uniue passives

kaguya will be a gogeta v2

[full magnet]

You haven’t even seen kaguyas passives

[daring fulcrum]

teleporting around the map

[full magnet]

Has to be rage baiting

[daring fulcrum]

and shooting bone projectiles and stunnijg enemies

[full magnet]

This guy didn’t watch the trailer

[daring fulcrum]

i promise you she will be a kaguya v2

[small spade]

Diavolo was also a relic of the old dev team and gogeta was the first one of trying to make something with the new team on board. VSJW had a very clear different direction in vanguard design philosophy

[daring fulcrum]

vsjw is still not very uniue

unique*

[umbral iron]

bro what

[small spade]

Again, that is so far from the truth it’s actually funny

[daring fulcrum]

the shadows are not very special when you only use 2 of them at max ipgrade

[small spade]

You haven’t even seen the kit and you’re doomering about her

[full magnet]

She changes the map and does different attacks based on the map and does different effects based on that as well she’s nothing like Gogeta

[frank pumice]

VSJW feels like a Vanguard, Diavolo and Gogeta are glorified secrets lel

From my perspective

[daring fulcrum]

trust me she’ll have nukes and just a better tp

[full magnet]

Kaguya doesn’t even move around

[daring fulcrum]

vsjw is so non unique its not even funny

hes just the mythic sjw but better

[full magnet]

we have lost the plot

[umbral iron]

🥀

[small spade]

Agreed

[daring fulcrum]

the cutscenes distracted you

[small spade]

And… Is that it?

[daring fulcrum]

maybe a map change like pokemon and your types do more damage

😭

[daring fulcrum]

it’s the trurh

[daring fulcrum]

vsjw is not that unique

[small spade]

Don’t you think something that impactful would be like the entire point of a kit to revolve around

[full magnet]

What a simple looking kit she definitely just has a nuke and does nothing else

[umbral iron]

they make passives without thinking about mobile

[daring fulcrum]

she probably has a evolve kit like buu

[small spade]

No that’s invincible’s stuff

[umbral iron]

i won't be able to read that shit on mobile 🥀

[north chasm]

yo leaking

[marble glade]

Hope her nuke isnt as crazy as vsjw/goku

[full magnet]

You do too much trolling Iol

[small spade]

Or maybe I’m just lying

[daring fulcrum]

oh wait she’ll MAYBE have a global stun

[small spade]

[north chasm]

invincible will be able to stay invisible

[full magnet]

They both have 4m damage nukes their nukes are weak

actually gokus does even less

[small spade]

Dawg just stop fuming over kaguya and wait for the damn unit to come out

[daring fulcrum]

with flashy vfx so your distracted from the fact that it’s just a normal stun

this could have been such a good vanguard unit

[full magnet]

yes the nuke is just a global stun trust

[daring fulcrum]

yes the infinite tsukiyomi

[small spade]

Playing with vfx on lol

[marble glade]

Can we expect the shutdown on 3-5h like usual or no clue

[arctic dragon]

they arent giving kaguya infinite tsukuyomi

[north chasm]

we havent even seen the passives yet???

[daring fulcrum]

then its covered by a cool curscnee

[north chasm]

how did that make you think its a stun

[daring fulcrum]

they will it makes no sense not to

[full magnet]

Why am I catching strays

[daring fulcrum]

she has the rinnesharingan

[north chasm]

is bro looking at the future

[arctic dragon]

dash just admit you're salty the vanguard isnt italian brainrot guy and leave

[daring fulcrum]

what italian brainrot fuy

[full magnet]

He’s using his sharingan rn to look into the future to then complain about it

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roland???

[marble glade]

Legit invincible only fits on wl

[umbral iron]

the vanguard should have been freddy fazbear

[daring fulcrum]

if he got added i just wish it was battlepass

[full magnet]

Nah he only fits worldine

Buddy didn’t watch the movie

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im using my ken haki

[north chasm]

he took epitaph from diavolo requiem and used it

[small spade]

TRUE

writing that one down

[full magnet]

Remember when Freddy fortnite was like its world lining time and lined the world and defeated his enemies

[daring fulcrum]

acceptable but i want him battlepass along with springtrap so everybody can have him

[north chasm]

they marked it down has the most historical day

[daring fulcrum]

they should have made happy chaos the vanguard for 6.0

[full magnet]

Yes because that would be way more well received by the community rather than kaguya

because the gg update did so well

and nobody complained like you

[daring fulcrum]

nobody understood the update anyway

i mean the source

[subtle torrent]

Vanguard Springtrap

[daring fulcrum]

this update was bad dont get me wrong

but its because they did guilty gear

[daring fulcrum]

nah vanguard golden freddy

thats peak

[subtle torrent]

His first passive is if a unit is aged below 5 he gets +50k% damage buff

[small spade]

It’s because PvP was a horribly buggy mess as well and Baiken’s quest was hard locked behind a really hard stage 😭

[umbral iron]

rudeus passive leaked

someone ban him

[daring fulcrum]

if the year is 1987 then the unit instakills other enemies

[subtle torrent]

💔

[daring fulcrum]

i still believe making characters skins and skins not skins is insane work

[full magnet]

True and he’d stuff them in fazbear suits for his buff

Killing your unit for the match

[subtle torrent]

Give him a meter with years on it, then when he hits 1993 he just goes Afk until the bar hits 2023

Peak game design

[daring fulcrum]

exactly

[full magnet]

A meter….

[daring fulcrum]

meters didnt really work this update though

sooo

[full magnet]

I don’t wanna do cid raids

[subtle torrent]

You’re right

[full magnet]

I DONT WANNA DO CID RAIDS

[subtle torrent]

One meter isn’t enough

[full magnet]

NOOO

[subtle torrent]

Let’s give him 2

[full magnet]

And 2 familiar slots for each meter

[delicate fern]

"A meter for you, A meter for you, METERS FOR EVERYONE!!"

[full magnet]

4 familiars

2 meters

8 passives and 3 swaps

You need 3 other familiars for the swaps

[subtle torrent]

Ghost child familiar

Causes him to get hit with severe ptsd every 30 seconds

[full magnet]

But they killed purple guy

[full magnet]

Let’s out a roar like kenpachi then

[full magnet]

*cid raid for everyone

This community shall know pain

[frank pumice]

And then also a familiar that makes or breaks meter units for no reason

[arctic dragon]

conquest shiny should have been immortal and omni man