Why AV is dying

[abstract kite]

the boss said it in arx server apparently 🤷‍♂️

[vast crescent]

Oh okay

[rancid ore]

The boss?

he brought arx too

[unique sand]

The main problem is that bi-weekly gets set as the goal, then everyone gets lax and crunches and it delays to tri-weekly, and then that three week deadline becomes the new norm and now 4 weeks is the delay period

[rancid ore]

bought*

[vast crescent]

The strongest dev sweatshop owner of today

[vast crescent]

Yeah thats pretty problematic

[abstract kite]

I mean even now from what we can see in the sneaks, they have kaguya modelled, with a cutscene and all her passives done

[vast crescent]

The stretch between 3.5 and 5.0 was really good because of the update times too

[abstract kite]

but regardless we will still have to wait 2 more weeks

for what will be a portals upd

[vast crescent]

4.0 only took 3 weeks and it was the most content filled major update imo

[abstract kite]

Cause they had real competition then from the threat of aa

[vast crescent]

.5 should be 2 weeks, .0 should be 3.

[vast crescent]

Yep

[abstract kite]

I hope ALS goes on a god run to wake these devs up

[vast crescent]

Thats kinda just the summary of it tbh, their only competition died so they started making stupid decisions thst they wouldnt

[abstract kite]

Maybe the game needs to reach 10k to revive again

[vast crescent]

It already kinda is

Als hasnt hit 87k in months

[abstract kite]

new upd in als lowkey goated

[vast crescent]

Hell it might be an all time high

[abstract kite]

im back on the game now playing for the first time

[vast crescent]

Its ight

[abstract kite]

it is at its peak i think

playerwise

[vast crescent]

I dont like the factions events

The quests are just mad annoying

[abstract kite]

meh they are what they are, nothing special

[unique sand]

“Done” is putting it generously from just sneaks alone

Like putting in a block of passive text isn’t much at all

[vast crescent]

Yeah thats true

Who knows what passive allows her to somehow perma freeze enemies or smth

[abstract kite]

They probably SHOULD have her done though lol if shes the main point of this update

Maybe its just wishful thinking that we will see this upd next weekend but i know theres no chance

[unique sand]

Oh absolutely

I’m not saying she isn’t almost done or anything

[abstract kite]

pvp overhaul definitely not coming either

[unique sand]

But rather that assuming she’s done just from the sneaks is disingenuous because there’s many pieces that have to come together to have her actually be “finished”

[vast crescent]

Okay i heavily doubt its a 4 week 0.5 update lol

[nova magnet]

hopefully it is

[vast crescent]

It probably should be within the 3 week period

If it isnt then we have a serious problem

[abstract kite]

Yea ig so but i just pray they dont keep us waiting 4 weeks

[vast crescent]

Probably shouldn't

They havent done a 4 week 0.5 update yet i dont think

Hopefully we maintain that level of consistently atleast 💀

[abstract kite]

how long did 5.5 take

nvm 3 weeks

[vast crescent]

Yea

[unique sand]

Yeah, every update has just gradually taken longer than the last

I can’t imagine this one doesn’t release this weekend at the latest though

[abstract kite]

we gotta consider the fact they spent alot of time fixing bugs

i damn hope so being a portals upd

[vast crescent]

Thank god ig

[unique sand]

That’s mainly what 6.5 has been

And why the fixes havent really been pushed to live

[vast crescent]

We've not had a 0.5 update take 4 weeks yet, not even ddd crossed that line

[unique sand]

Because it takes a lot more time out to go in and edit main game code without breaking everything and doing that back and forth for every fix

[vast crescent]

Hopefully it stays that way

[vast crescent]

Thats fair

[abstract kite]

Hopefully and maybe start bringing .0's to 3 weeks

considering they wont be focused on a new mode every .0

[unique sand]

I’m pretty sure vsjw and cid both took 3 weeks to release

[vast crescent]

Yeah

I meant 4

Think ddd also took 3

[sullen blade]

Dandadan

[nova magnet]

als 76k

[indigo fox]

Only reason I’m playing Als rn is because it gives easy trait rrs

[sullen blade]

Aa is free

[indigo fox]

No

Never touching that shi again

[vast crescent]

Yeah the boss is gonna buy aa for 2 cents soon

[toxic scaffold]

whos ready for thhe update to take 2 weeks

[vast crescent]

It basically is free

[indigo fox]

In my dreams

[indigo fox]

Boss has like hella Roblox games now

Hopefully the he makes arx better tho

Or change it to a trait heavy game

[vast crescent]

Glad i never got into arx

It can go both ways tbh

Game could improve under brandon but it could also just become even sloppier

[indigo fox]

The game is already slop I don’t think he can make it worse

Only way is up

100%

[vast crescent]

Arguable tbh

Theres always room for degradation

Just imagine do big doing anything

[indigo fox]

[last anchor]

Its gonna become als but with other gameplay

[indigo fox]

Would be better for the game tbh

[last anchor]

Powercreep every upd and horrible to grind

[indigo fox]

Eh

Als grind is ok but their power creep has gotten way better

[last anchor]

Lowk true

[indigo fox]

All of the Als grind is easy because you can afk it

They really haven’t done anything to stop fakers

[last anchor]

Idk about the powercreep, every upd always has a better unit than before

[indigo fox]

Afkers

[last anchor]

Thats what i mean

[indigo fox]

Ah I see

[nova magnet]

ngl hopefully it will take 2 weeks

not saying it "should"

i still need alot of things from winter shop/banner

[unique sand]

gang how 😭

Also wdym "not saying it should" why wouldn't it take 2 weeks? Do you want it shorter?

[agile thunder]

Av “must” update this weekend...

[indigo fox]

On your life it is

[agile thunder]

I'm okay with it. I would be very surprised if it took longer...

[brave beacon]

And we do not forget about communication and hype build up aswell

They have to figure out a way to drop sneaks almost daily like they used to during cid update and prior

Because the current ones have a difference of 3-5 days, its too much time.

[agile thunder]

They don't have enough things to sneak every day. And they want to reserve some things for the trailer...

[nova magnet]

i think u misunderstood what i said

read it again

[unique sand]

"hopefully it will take 2 weeks"
"not saying it 'should'"

idk how else to interpret that other than "It shouldn't take that long" or "they should take longer"

[candid mural]

In my personal opinion tho

Its because of adding stuff that arent well known

if they stop doing mainstream stuff, its over for the game

[viscid lynx]

Me pe rsonally, the non mainstream stuff isnt killing the game
its just the dev arent locking tf in

[nova magnet]

i think ur misunderstanding again

i said the update could hopefully take 2 more weeks

in my favor

[unique sand]

I think the non-mainstream stuff is fine

If it's just once in a while

[nova magnet]

since were already 3 weeks away from last upd

or 2 weeks

[unique sand]

like GG was legitimately not a bad pick for the theme they wanted to go for, considering they had it planned for a while

[unique sand]

oh my god it actually has been 2 weeks already

[nova magnet]

yeah update released in like 3rd or 4th june

[unique sand]

[unique sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153324866699788288/1357626680134340780/togif.gif

[indigo fox]

We all playing anime run kingdom

[last anchor]

I prefer playing arx at that point 💔

[indigo fox]

🥀

Lowkey might play that

Cant afk av till the weekend

[last anchor]

Its dead rn

[indigo fox]

Anime run kingdom got less

And I really don’t care about player count tbh

[last anchor]

Yea but its kinda uncertain if they could do a lil comeback with theboss

[indigo fox]

Yea but there’s really nothing to do but afk als

[toxic scaffold]

yeah 4 week updates are the norm now

bum ass game

[toxic scaffold]

everyone loves 4 week updates

[toxic scaffold]

also u guys need to buff astolfo in some way or form

[sterile sable]

no

[toxic scaffold]

he sucks

[sterile sable]

tell ME A reason he need a buff?

wtf you want

full aoe repulse

that can travel like kata

and grant status immunity

i dont think his repulse is weak

and the last skill is good for inf

and some team setup

bypass overshield btw

perfect for last map

[solid urchin]

God damn it

[toxic scaffold]

hes 16000 to get his first ability so at minimum you'l wait like 5-6 waves just to get his first support to start buffing ur unit
40% dmg buff doesnt matter because his spellbook will have like 5s of downtime to buff the unit if u constantly use his support abilities

[solid urchin]

MahNa is typist

[toxic scaffold]

and for the first thing you better hope you hit enough enemies to get his max dmg buff instantly

[toxic scaffold]

otherwise thats another wave of waiting

[sterile sable]

i think that his spell book shouldn't go cd upon ability usage

otherwise he fine as he is rn

[toxic scaffold]

he needs his dmg buff up to like 25-30% especially since it promotes active usage

[sterile sable]

20% is enough

subaru tier buff btw

[toxic scaffold]

okay so

[sterile sable]

the only problem he have rn

[toxic scaffold]

nobody uses subaru

[sterile sable]

his first skill dont grant dmg buff stack

for unknow reason

which make him less useable on short mode

you have to rely on his finall skill to get the buff

[toxic scaffold]

jst a bug

[sterile sable]

and no one like to wait 200 sec for the buff

[toxic scaffold]

i was assuming when hes fixed

bc rn hes not even usable

[sterile sable]

he is good for inf

and only inf i think

[toxic scaffold]

yeah hes a inf unit fs

i mean at some point idek if thats true

[sterile sable]

what point

[toxic scaffold]

gokus a better support, kat id say too, esdeath, dio, gojo, gilgamesh, salter

idk abt salter

dont remember if her slow still stacks

actually

yeah

i think hes gonna be used in infs

[sterile sable]

hes is perfect for inf

that have dmg reduction modify

and overshield

his last skill bypass all of that

with full aoe repulse and can move anywhere

perfect for inf

[toxic scaffold]

yea

[sterile sable]

but kinda mid for short mode

(not just mid straight up bad)

[toxic scaffold]

he not just mid hes horrible for short modes

yeah lol

[sterile sable]

he isn't horrible

[toxic scaffold]

nah he is

[sterile sable]

he in unuseable

[toxic scaffold]

lmao

[sterile sable]

who tf use bro for short mode

[toxic scaffold]

you get like 200k yen in one match and the fact astolfo is half of that

is crazy

[sterile sable]

poitenal man again lol

hey at least he is cracked in inf

[toxic scaffold]

yeah

[sterile sable]

dont like someone name yamamoto

[toxic scaffold]

so

[sterile sable]

just buff his buff poitenal in short mode

and all good

like wtf i have to hit 50 enemy

in a single third skill

when every enemy get oneshot by aizen

[toxic scaffold]

inf meta is gojo, dio, esdeath, kata i think, salter, alucard, gilga, astolfo

nah its only 20

[sterile sable]

wait only 20?

[toxic scaffold]

yeah

1% every enemy hit for dmg

[sterile sable]

yea lets make it 10

[sterile sable]

stalling meta get bully in new map inf lol

[toxic scaffold]

that and goku

[sterile sable]

i dont think goku even that good at a support

kata just do it better

[toxic scaffold]

kata cant always stun

goku can

[sterile sable]

you gotta need like godlike setup

to mix kata stun and goku stun

[toxic scaffold]

i maen

cant be that hard

[sterile sable]

i dont even use goku for inf lol

my kata with bird just stun everyone

gotta give goku a try

[toxic scaffold]

tf does any on hit effects

is unit gets applied with mean on katakuris passive

mean

[sterile sable]

aladin passive right?

or asto?

[toxic scaffold]

no kata

[sterile sable]

uh

[toxic scaffold]

wait

so

[sterile sable]

his puddle

apply slow

that all

he have slow

[toxic scaffold]

theyre just slowed for 50% while in his puddle?

[sterile sable]

and it apply slow

yea

[toxic scaffold]

damn

[sterile sable]

if in the future

there is a unit

that can change his status effect

then he can apply bleed

[toxic scaffold]

wait is that stacked with his on hit slow

[sterile sable]

froze

[sterile sable]

no

just more reliable

[toxic scaffold]

hmm

[sterile sable]

50% slow every second yk

[toxic scaffold]

idk what the point of goku is then

cuz sosuke exists

[sterile sable]

you have 3 puddle

that hella cracked yk

[toxic scaffold]

yeah thats still bugged

[sterile sable]

imange there is a future unit that can change people on hit effect

i want my kata apply bleed

BURN

[toxic scaffold]

i guess goku is for stun?

[sterile sable]

yea aoe stun

10 sec per stun ig

black spirit yk

it just that each time he change to vegeta

[toxic scaffold]

i was looking at the inf tier list so i could name the inf metas without it being on the top of my head but now i dont understand

cuz sosuke exists

[sterile sable]

he get animation dowtime

[sterile sable]

sasuke just might be better

with setup

but goku is a full aoe stun

but it just 2 sec btw

[toxic scaffold]

i think all stun is 2s

[sterile sable]

welp whatever

goku is like the worst support option

unless you go to buu map

or fate map

then he might be good at support

[toxic scaffold]

nah its prob cuz its full aoe

stun

[toxic scaffold]

so all 4 teams: cid, vsjw, vergil

[sterile sable]

this is from illusion

a lb sever

people seem dont like goku that much

[sterile sable]

oh btw its 5.5 tier list

[toxic scaffold]

why in hell is choso there

[sterile sable]

dont care about dps tier

[toxic scaffold]

😭

[sterile sable]

5.5

[sterile sable]

still do hella dmg

and full aoe

full aoe is full aoe

[toxic scaffold]

ddamn yeah

theres like no full aoe units

[sterile sable]

and also

fun fact

solo run is somehow easier to manage than team run

and you dont need cid monarch for solo run

[toxic scaffold]

i mean yeah

all u have to worry abt is urself

[sterile sable]

i somehow get top 9

edge of heaven

by my self

[toxic scaffold]

9937 dps(not really cuz its assuming all bleed dmg is done instantly its flawed ik) alucard to choso 16560dps

i mean

idk

maybe i did dps calculations wrong or something

i still dk why choso is z

[vast crescent]

Everything besides the top 5 is irrelevant

Also tier list is hella outdated

Vergil wouldnt be that high

Cid would be top 1

[toxic scaffold]

why wouldnt vergil be that high

i mean

he'll like

always have a damage buff

[vast crescent]

43k dps to all enemies but like 3

[toxic scaffold]

43k dps and full aoe

[vast crescent]

Better to have constant higher full aoe dps

Or someone like choy

[toxic scaffold]

isnt it 56k?

[vast crescent]

No

[toxic scaffold]

unless his clone doesnt get 1.5x too

[vast crescent]

His dps is 21.5k with a 4.9% spark darkspirit

x2 because of clone

[toxic scaffold]

is that with dt?

[vast crescent]

Yes

And triple godly stats(monarch obviously)

[toxic scaffold]

liar

[vast crescent]

72.2 range?

Yeah gang this isnt just dt

Why would i lie anyway

[toxic scaffold]

the showcaser lied to me..

[cerulean lark]

you are forgetting abt the follow up attacks which account for most of his dps and brings it to over 100k

[vast crescent]

Occur in a tiny ass circle

[cerulean lark]

hes a boss killer

[vast crescent]

Hes the best boss killer outside of inf

Sure

In inf its more valuable to have higher constant full aoe dps

[cerulean lark]

43k dps consist and then follow ups do a lot more dmg

[vast crescent]

To 4 enemies yeah

[cerulean lark]

he can follow up on multiple different enemys at the same time if they are all frozen, right?

[vast crescent]

Anyway unless kaguya is bad, shes the only dps unit youll ve bringing anyway

[vast crescent]

Nah

The extra hits only occur on whatever hes targeting

So whatever is within that circle aoe gets hit

[cerulean lark]

his spot on the inf lb is still deserved

[vast crescent]

😕

If you say so

[nova magnet]

gogeta above yhwach

[vast crescent]

early 5.5 inf tierlist gang

though that is true that should probably still not have happened

neither is really that relevant in this case so

[abstract kite]

I doubt black spirit is used on vergil during inf runs

Birb for the follow ups dps boost

[sterile sable]

ywach will be better for solo and certian map

gogeta will be better for team and in certain map again

[wide rover]

repulse is ass also hes way worse than baiken, kata and esdeath

[abstract kite]

Av might be fucking saved

Trailer on a wednesday

Are we BACK

• we get actual communication from the devs on 6.0

[wide rover]

ong

[sterile sable]

full aoe repulse

is full aoe repulse

can move to anywhere

have skill that straight up negate any dmg reduction modify

dont forget the buff (subaru tier)
status negate

[keen stirrup]

pyseph forgot record of ragnarok existed

[wide rover]

"full aoe repulse" like that makes it any better, its the worst status effect in the game and astolfo is the least cost efficient unit in the game all while doing literally zero damage

[wide rover]

thats great until u realize that it only affects 1 unit + hypogriff and spear cancels it

[sterile sable]

ye ik about this

[sterile sable]

and it still full aoe crowd control

what is wrong with it

[wide rover]

repulse has a 30 second cooldown and doesnt affect bosses

compared to slow which has like a 5 second cooldown or freeze which has 10 (both affect bosses)

[sterile sable]

they just gut it from asto and byken

and when tf

repulse have

30 sec?

[wide rover]

since always

[sterile sable]

let me test hold on

[wide rover]

actually it might be 25 seconds idr, but eitherway its still x2 more than every other status effect in the game

[sterile sable]

if this true then the problem is repulse

not asto

[wide rover]

repulse being 1 of the like 5 downsides astolfo has btw

[sterile sable]

uhh

tell me more downside of him

to expensive

do no dmg

have no range

what next

status immunity buff that refuse to stay when you use skill

[wide rover]

absolute worst cost efficiency of any support in the game, does no damage, spellbook being cancelled by other abilities, hypogriff having a wonky hitbox, spear being overall worse than a timestop

[sterile sable]

spear isnt for crowd control

isnt it to negate all the dmg reduction bull shit

yea hypo need buff

[wide rover]

its the ability that spawns the enemy soul, but its overall usefulness is way worse compared to a timestop or nuke

not to mention 200 second cooldown

[sterile sable]

ik

but spear littrealy give you a way to negate dmg reduction thing

(soul dont have dmg reduction)

[wide rover]

i mean sure i guess, thats really situational though

[sterile sable]

its fine dont you agree?

that thing littrealy do really good againts overshield enemy

and resilent enemy

yea asto deff need cost reduce

cause oh god

support unit and cost almost 100k

[wide rover]

yeah i'd say its fine, probably one of the only things about astolfo that doesnt need a buff

[sterile sable]

but cough

40k money

cough

[sterile sable]

uh welp

asto is an inf focus unit i think

do the job pretty good in inf

but outside of inf

he suck

[abstract kite]

AV REVIVAL FRIDAY UPDATE ADDING SOME GOOD UNITS 🙏

[upbeat tusk]

SEA SALT

[vast crescent]

Conqest+Mark unit is the best decision these guys have made since 4.0

[wide rover]

since vergil and dante even

[nova magnet]

one of them costs 67.5k yen to max out

the other costs 180k yen

it's pretty obvious

[nova magnet]

wb it

inf didn't change from 5.5 now did it

yhwach has the biggest non infinite range with full aoe

im sure he should be higher

[eager nova]

No one wants kaguya bro what is this

And again devs ignoring suggestions like usual

[icy vault]

im ngl conquest would have been a better vanguard

but conquedt is prob worldlines

[eager nova]

Who even does worldlines bro

[unique sand]

[icy vault]

wrd

it just the same thing as infinity castles n i never liked infinity castle

but maybe others like it

[vast crescent]

This is pre cid

And again you dont run anything below godly tier

Anything below that is irrelevant

[vast crescent]

Had to be a mainstream vanguard ig, bleach is done, one piece cant happen and theres already a db vanguard. So naruto was the most mainstream thing

Ill state the same thing people have said 500 times, madara wouldve been cooler

But kaguya is ight

I like the rest of the selections

[viscid lynx]

i saw arcueid so av is taking money

i just saw the trailer

[unique sand]

Madara would've been cooler, sure.

But why not save vanguard madara for a potential naruto update

[indigo fox]

Hashirama would’ve been better

[vast crescent]

This is not me saying it, ive already agreed with this, im just saying that this is kinda the general opinion about kaguya

I personally dont think shes a bad choice

[verbal flicker]

…ehhh

[vast crescent]

People might not like her but most people know her

Also yeah i dont think hashirama wouldve been better

Hashirama makes more sense as secret imo

[indigo fox]

Hashirama would be a great nature unit

[vast crescent]

Hashirama fits more as a wl or quest unit ngl

[unique sand]

No, of course not

But the point is that if we make madara the spring vanguard

We can't really do anything with him in a naruto update

[indigo fox]

Yes their was

Lortomo

[verbal flicker]

The other 2 fit better ngl joker seems more like a aizen quest unit

[unique sand]

They just wanted kaguya because she has a cool kit to make, and probably because she's one of the few female characters that fit for a vanguard unit lol

[undone prairie]

Joker?

[unique sand]

I know literally nothing about persona lol

[vast crescent]

Because people probably wouldnt be too happy about a game vanguard right after they said "no game updates for a bit"

[unique sand]

Maybe they wanted a female vanguard

[unique sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1371696052507377715/1375522068749353030/meme-1.gif

[vast crescent]

I never defend the devs but this is genuinely complaining for the sake of complaining

[indigo fox]

Isn’t that what #1315875683603447969 are for

[vast crescent]

No not really

[unique sand]

people making good suggestions??

not in my server

[indigo fox]

75% of suggestions are just people complaining about something

[unique sand]

this is all for complaining and derailing threads

[vast crescent]

Because 50% of suggestions are just dogshit, 25% are complaining about bad features which is valid

[unique sand]

The best you might get is like, slight extra damage if the cc can't be applied but at that point why bother

[wide rover]

[nova magnet]

cid wouldn't change the position between yhwach and gogeta

[vast crescent]

Fair enough

I mean again its just irrelevant everyone besides the top 5 could be in the same tier and it wouldnt matter

[eager nova]

100%

Don’t know why they’re wasting time on mid units

Even like pain or sum would’ve been good

Itachi

Wtv

Kaguya was only there in the end

Weird unit to put in

[blazing falcon]

its not weird

madara has nothing to do with spring session but kaguya does so it was the right decision to choose her

[wide rover]

"kaguya, a literal alien, has more to do with spring and nature than madara"

just pack it up already

kaguya is the exact opposite of a spring unit

[blazing falcon]

"why kaguya and not naruto units" type stuff, losing intelligence by the second

[wide rover]

literally what does kaguya, an extraterrestrial, have in common with spring

[blazing falcon]

check her wiki

it says rabbit

within her nickname

need the link?

image?

[wide rover]

not only do rabbits not have anything to do with spring, but she's called "rabbit goddess" due to her connection with japanese folklore being the moon rabbit (yet another aspect that strays her away from earth and hence spring)

[pallid compass]

Jin mori would’ve better as a spring vanguard

[unique sand]

"not only do rabbits not have anything to do with spring"

[blazing falcon]

why are you so butt hurt lmao

[unique sand]

What sort of spring are you existing in

[blazing falcon]

such a cry baby holy shit

[unique sand]

have you ever heard of a little thing called "Easter"

[wide rover]

i dont think i need to explain why connecting kaguya to spring via her title being loosely connected to easter is a stretch

[unique sand]

I mean

[wide rover]

resorting to insults is not a good look

[unique sand]

I don't think there's really a connection to spring

i dunno if merlin, rudeus, or rimuru really have any sort of connection

But saying rabbits have nothing to do with spring is just flat out wrong lmao

[wide rover]

if kaguya was actually properly connected to rabbits in any way other than a title then i'd agree with you

[blazing falcon]

youve probably done in the past and its a trouble when i cross the line, i mean at least I'm not a loser who is constantly chatting in here and asking myself the question "Why in the world did the devs pick kaguya unknown girl over madara" who has the potential to be used for a future .0 update?

[pallid compass]

I don’t think current vanguard are connected to his station, Gogeta and Diavolo dont have nothing to do with Winter or autumn

[wide rover]

if the devs are gonna pick somebody like kaguya for the vanguard for the very minimum she should fit the theme

[blazing falcon]

It does?

Gogeta represents Winter dumbass

Diavolo also presents Halloween

[pallid compass]

With what

[blazing falcon]

oh now ur going ask?

yeah go on their wiki

not doing shit for you

[pallid compass]

“I don’t think”

[wide rover]

why are u projecting to this extent? just admit you were wrong and move on

[blazing falcon]

wrong on what?

[wide rover]

[pallid compass]

I didn’t assume it

[unique sand]

Oh, it does.

It fit the theme they wanted for it.

[blazing falcon]

wiki still shows that she has something to do with spring session as in rabbits so i don't see where am i wrong with

[wide rover]

whats the theme then? cant be spring thats for sure

[unique sand]

Also I said nothing about connecting kaguya to rabbits. I think that's a terrible stretch. But saying rabbits don't connect to spring is a foundation made out of toothpicks

[blazing falcon]

i think a rabbit goddess fits spring/summer pretty well but thats just me

[blazing falcon]

what else could it be?

[wide rover]

have u watched naruto by chance

[blazing falcon]

can't be summer either because it hasn't started officially as of right now

[unique sand]

At this point I'm not fully sure because rudy and rimuru kinda go against it but

[fringe saffron]

did the winter units even fit the winter theme?

[wide rover]

yeah i was wrong on that but i still stand lf kaguya not being related to spring at all

[wide rover]

to an extent yes

bunch of freeze and ice related units

[fringe saffron]

i feel like it is just barely connected
what does gogeta have to do with winter

[wide rover]

frostburn etc

[fringe saffron]

and rem

[wide rover]

her character design matches a winter vibe due to her blue hair for the very minimum

[blazing falcon]

gogeta is related to winter

he was created during December' month

[pallid compass]

What wiki, AV wiki? How that affects with the character? Gogeta ssj4 as character what connections have with winter?

[blazing falcon]

are you trolling?

im talking about the actual wiki u freak

[fringe saffron]

that is the loosest connection ever😭

[pallid compass]

What wiki

[wide rover]

[blazing falcon]

hold on

ill ask fighterz rq

[pallid compass]

And if he is created in December have nothing to do to represent winter

[wide rover]

exactly

[blazing falcon]

What do you mean?

[pallid compass]

I can accept diavolo ngl

[pallid compass]

He have nothing to do with winter, only born in a winter month

[blazing falcon]

like that logic just

make no sense at all lol

i have multiple examples where it does matter which month you were born on

[wide rover]

[pallid compass]

If he at least fight in a winter biome I could understand

But he just fight in a city

And more thing

But not related to winter

[blazing falcon]

you do know he's canon now right? so that's no longer true as he has done way more things than just fighting on a city

[wide rover]

ssj4 gogeta is canon?

[blazing falcon]

yeah

[pallid compass]

Yes, but no one of his fight or appearances have nothing related to winter

So?

[wide rover]

dont tell me its cuz of daima

[pallid compass]

[blazing falcon]

What?

It's now canon because of it

[pallid compass]

Vanguard should’ve characters that people like a lot(could’ve exceptions), not characters that even his fandom hate

[fringe saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-gif-18128361

[undone prairie]

yeah pretty much

[vast crescent]

Eh

What does gogeta have to do with winter

[fringe saffron]

also fubuki too
i kinda forgot about her cuz she was given freeze but how is she even winter related

[vast crescent]

Fubuki too yeah

I dont even know why she has freeze

Repulse would make way more sense

[fringe saffron]

her whole kit makes like no sense😭

[vast crescent]

Or just slow

Yeah seriously

Rem and ram are also just there lol

Saying they fit the theme because they have blue hair

Is insanity

💀

[fringe saffron]

also i dont really get the need to make units fit the "theme"

[vast crescent]

I mean i get it but its not like it has mattered in the past

[fringe saffron]

theres not very many that fit the theme of just being a season

also ngl you could argue for most of the units to be related to the theme this season

but once again does it even matter

[undone prairie]

I mean

Connect a lil Imo

fur

Keeps you warm in cold

Rest of the units got white shirt or smth related to freeze

Im taking it

[abstract kite]

Pretty sure kaguya was selected to provide room for a future naruto upd to have naruto madara etc

I dont see how its hard to understand their choices for vanguard

[pallid compass]

People understand, but the character is trash, there are more characters that will fit as a vanguard better then her

[solid urchin]

it is wat it is

[abstract kite]

Yeah I cant really argue that I have never seen naruto

I only know a few of the main characters and kaguya wasnt one of them

But my point is they never would have made like sasuke, naruto, madara a vanguard

[pallid compass]

I can understand that, but they can still avoid her if no one want her

I think the only Naruto fan that was happy for Kaguya is lortomoto

[abstract kite]

Ye ppl were only happy to see her cause they assumed 6.5 would be naruto

7.0 could be naruto though

I have a strong feeling it will be something mainstream

[pallid compass]

They should do it, astd x is coming in less then a month probably. If they dont do main stream updates this game gonna fall

[abstract kite]

I think astdx is coming in like 2 weeks

didnt the owner say the release date after the trailer will be like a few weeks

[pallid compass]

Yes probably, trailer is this Friday

Yes

[abstract kite]

yh so tomorrow

[abstract kite]

i feel like 7.0 could be one piece, berserk, naruto

it kinda has to be something like that lol

[pallid compass]

I hope so

[blazing falcon]

op??
naruto??

[pallid compass]

Mainstream

[blazing falcon]

and you think those are good ideas?

[pallid compass]

Absolutely

[abstract kite]

All 3 of those would do well lol

Devs could release a total slop naruto/op upd and it would have more ccu than 6.0 did

[undone prairie]

Astdx is won't live

All delay tower defense in this era

[pallid compass]

The last months astd have 1-2kccu without updating, saying that it won’t live is insane

It always depends on how they handle it, if they care about community astdx could’ve the #1td

[verbal flicker]

They did say most of the progress is getting wiped though

Iirc only a select few things actually transfer over

[pallid compass]

Because is a new game? They don’t gonna give u the better units just joined, pretty sure the gamepass will save so that is the important thing

[abstract kite]

Astdx will be good if they remove the long boring grind

Game had the most potential

[last anchor]

The boring grind: 10 stages

Only gauntlet was annoying

Gojo and law spam

[abstract kite]

Naw the whole game even inf got to the point where it was all nukes and shit

It got so boring lol especially with no traits there was nothing but the unit to grind for

F2P game but boring as hell

[last anchor]

Its far better without traits

[abstract kite]

I disagree but I know thats a controversial take in itself

[last anchor]

I mean, devs have to balance it out with traits in mind now

Plus the stats

[abstract kite]

is astdx gonna have traits

[last anchor]

Sadly

And stats

[abstract kite]

it might stand a chance then lol

theres nothing to grind for if you have no traits or stats, once you finish the grind you can only do tournament

[last anchor]

It will

More bc of nostalgia

[abstract kite]

could still be good

[last anchor]

I like that there was no traits cause i wouldnt be focus on just one unit

I could get all and that unit could have value

[summer veldt]

💀

[abstract kite]

But ultimately there is nothing else to go for once you get the unit lol

[summer veldt]

Less rng = better game

[abstract kite]

Why do you play av over other td games that getting the better traits are much easier on then lol

The rng in this game is balanced almost perfectly

[last anchor]

Depends on the content

[abstract kite]

Between being rewarding and not overindulging

[hoary veldt]

while yes I think the RNG is fine in this game
however, grinding for rerolls for weeks just for the new update, only to get 1 ethereal and 1 deadeye is very frustrating and has definitely caused me to be less interested in the game overall.
If grinding rerolls was more straightforward and I didn't have to play multiple game modes for 3+ hours for each game mode, this would be different.
So I think it's less about the RNG and more about the tediously annoying grinds you have to do for even a chance at getting a monarc.

[abstract kite]

The game is balanced around not needing monarch though

Beside ex stage, traited pvp, and tournaments you really dont need any monarchs

Monarch is rare its supposed to feel special when you get it

Cause its 1/1000 afterall

[hoary veldt]

Yes, but the sole purpose of grinding rr is to get a monarch, and when many of the new units while not dependent on Monarch, are generally worse than old units without it.

[verbal flicker]

Being so fr, the gg stage is the only legend stage you might need monarchs for the difficulty spike was a bit too excessive

[abstract kite]

This is not rlly true lol baiken does not need monarch to be very insane

But ofc if you have other monarchs then non monarch new upd units wont be that good

As long as you get vsjw, gogeta and kaguya monarch you are doing it right

those are worth pity

[hoary veldt]

I have none of those
im too unlucky in this game bro

[abstract kite]

Roll to pity then

[hoary veldt]

Ive spent well over 4million presents to get gogeta lol

still nothin

[abstract kite]

Do u have vsjw atleast

[hoary veldt]

I cant get the damn key

[abstract kite]

Just trade for gogeta when it comes out lol he wont be valuable

[vast crescent]

2 cents of value

[abstract kite]

Grind for it when you are able then monarch him

[hoary veldt]

and frankly, with both college and my job I don't have time to grind this game

[abstract kite]

Fair

[vast crescent]

Actually you'll have to pay someone to take gogeta from you at this point his value is in the negatives

[hoary veldt]

thats why I mainly play other games nowadays lol

[vast crescent]

🥭

[hoary veldt]

no monarchs + my laptop is ancient

[abstract kite]

Come friday there wont be a portal done manually

[hoary veldt]

Its literally just come down to the fact that I feel like I can't really progress without one now, and yes I know that I can always do group stuff or stuff like that but its still annoying

[vast crescent]

Of course not

Nobody sane is grinding 3m currency manually

[abstract kite]

Hell no lol

I just hope the spring event rr farm is as good as 3.0 was

aka the present boxes

[hoary veldt]

AV is just going down a direction I don't really enjoy
They have a lot of cool things but It's not enough to keep me hooked

[unique sand]

Can't progress in... The EX stage? The only thing that might require monarchs but could be doable with a full party without monarchs if you actually know what you're doing

[vast crescent]

No probably referring to magnos

Those need monarchs to consistently do stuff

[unique sand]

lol

lmao

[abstract kite]

Yo

does cid nuke stack infinitely in infinite mode

[unique sand]

Yes

Resets on use

[abstract kite]

Very good thanks

[unique sand]

the scaling caps at 600% per swap tho

[blazing falcon]

Well that is stupid

THey need to make monarchs have a use

[abstract kite]

im being trolled in the new inf didnt know armored knight is immune to cc

[verbal flicker]

Has to be meaning the new legend stage that’s the only one that does require atleast some borderline meta unit to solo

[unique sand]

?????????

[abstract kite]

They make the game a breeze

[unique sand]

So you want the game to be balanced around the rarest trait in the game???

[blazing falcon]

No but make it feel rewarding at least?

Like

Give the new portals new scaling

[unique sand]

Instead of letting it be a luxury for progression and a thing for competitive scenes

It is rewarding

[blazing falcon]

higher scaling

[unique sand]

You get to skip an entire portion of the core mechanics of the game

[blazing falcon]

Maybe but deadeye is better than it for inf

You normally dont get to use monarchs for lb runs

[unique sand]

because you need a fraction of the money

nobody cares about inf

[blazing falcon]

Same with eth cid over mon cid for lb runs

[unique sand]

When monarch's biggest strength is the cost efficiency

Obviously it's not going to matter as much in the mode with infinite money

[vast crescent]

The difficulty scaling or whatever it was called in anime royale was a cool concept ngl

Modulation

[unique sand]

Yes

Not a good fit for AV though

[vast crescent]

I mean

I guess

[unique sand]

And also it was good before Royale pivoted on their goals like three different times

[vast crescent]

Yeah they did do that

[unique sand]

50x was supposed to be like, almost impossible outside of having a full team with optimized traits

And then when it was released that was the same time the owners wanted the powercreep to get on a rocket

and 50x just immediately became the standard to grind

It's such a wasted system

[vast crescent]

Thats the only thing that comes to my mind as to how you can make monarch more "rewarding" or whatever whilst not fucking up the entire balance of the game but yeah

Royale's execution had pretty big issues

[unique sand]

why i stepped down from their tester team lmao

[blazing falcon]

Why is Omni Man the Shiny unit? They just wasted an entire potential for a future character we could have owned with Allen as BP units?

[unique sand]

bro

[north quarry]

???????????????????

[unique sand]

there's no way you're actually complaining about that 😭

[blazing falcon]

Invincible Raid Update

IF they cant do bp units they raid update?

[unique sand]

No 😭

[abstract kite]

Whats the chance i get sniped last minute

Bracket looking a little low too good to be true

[fringe saffron]

You prob fine
This traited requires very specific monarchs

[abstract kite]

Yea no monarch cid cooking me

[blazing falcon]

im still top 1 with 3b

my bracket too lazy ig

[abstract kite]

My traitless bracket is on smtgh

1.2b like top 3

[brave beacon]

The traitless strat is too easy

It didnt require more than 2 hours to fully understand such thing

This traitless tourney is basically free

If you have the units ofc

The only hard thing is timing elphet ability

[unkempt smelt]

thats the key part if you can delay them for the boss part you can do really well

[gray lily]

Bump

[abstract kite]

Tournament is spark buff

[upbeat tusk]

And it just had to have the immunity modifier

[abstract kite]

True true but its either going to be vsjw yhwach vergil yhwach anyways

vergil will be doing 90k with a good black spirit full aoe, still a decent pick with monarch

Tournaments have been on a hot streak of pure buns lately though

Didnt think it could get worse than 33 but 34 proved me wrong

[nova magnet]

bro has to be ragebaiting

i will predict that he will reply to my message with swear words

if this prediction happens i might just be aizen

[eager nova]

B

[undone prairie]

Real rage baiter accusing egoist with rage baiting