Suggestions...

[bitter musk]

new cards coming for odyssey,

[floral tiger]

is that real...

[latent palm]

oh yeah ive seen that one, i forgot about that doe

[glossy quest]

is this in the booster sneaks

[bitter musk]

oh yeah, we've gotten a lot of cosmetics sneak peaks as well

cid/yori/uruyobito/alter whatever

[latent palm]

yeah, is it bad?

[bitter musk]

rem including

[glossy quest]

where are these sneaks lol

[latent palm]

man im so happy pyseph read my feedback, almost everything i said in my message to him was fixed

[grave oyster]

How is that new cards

[bitter musk]

it is in #「🚀」general-2

[latent palm]

its in the gen2

[magic epoch]

Pyseph just chucks them around everywhere

Booster sneaks doesn’t even exist anymore does it?

[grave oyster]

Painful Gains has been in the game lmao

[bitter musk]

and they're often posted in #「💬」general

[latent palm]

i think he meant interactables

[glossy quest]

just put them in #「💡」sneaks not that deep

[bitter musk]

still means we're getting something new for odyssey

[glossy quest]

holy moly

[bitter musk]

then you guys will complain

[glossy quest]

????????

[bitter musk]

on how this sneak isn't enough and will beg for something bigger

[latent palm]

cant wait to waste all my money to a stitches shrine

[floral tiger]

No, but when 1970 sends something its either complete bullshit or undeniable truth, so I had to ask...

[grave oyster]

“Nobody cares about odyssey sneaks booooooo show us the update”

[magic epoch]

This is the true intention of anime vanguards

[glossy quest]

taking over two updates to fully refurbish odyssey is just poor production management

[latent palm]

pyseph and valk are the goats

[glossy quest]

if 6.0 is marketed as the "pvp update"

[magic epoch]

Give it all away to stitches

[glossy quest]

you bet your life im looking for a pvp sneak

[magic epoch]

Every dime you’ve ever made

[grave oyster]

I mean when literally only one or two people work on it and also have to work on the rest of the update as well

[bitter musk]

pyseph, and valk have given out multiple information about pvp, it's not hard to put in a little research in their messages regarding pvp

[grave oyster]

Yeah it kinda takes a while

[glossy quest]

why should i have to go dig through chat logs?

[honest aurora]

Unless its spoon fed this guy wont see it

[glossy quest]

lol so i have to be in #「🚀」general-2 8 hours a day? no thanks

[grave oyster]

Also I will say that I’m at least working to rebalance/remove/rework a fair few things on odyssey

[odd schooner]

multiple information 💔

[bitter musk]

because you're the one asking for information about pvp? digging through their chat logs is the way to do so

[grave oyster]

I’ve still got a whole list of changes I wanna work with but it’s just a waiting game

[honest aurora]

or just watch one of the 5 youtubers that got to make a video on pvp

[odd schooner]

tbh you shouldnt have to search general for sneaks

[floral tiger]

The most poor production management is working on two updates at once, then wasting stupidly large amounts of time manually porting over bug fixes one by one from the alternate version, which then end up causing even more bugs, which you then have to allocate even more time to fix, then you have to actually cross-reference if the developer version still works or if it needs the ported-fixes ported over....
Sounds like an absolute git nightmare, except roblox doesnt even have that, so it's probably even more horrifying

[latent palm]

elite role sybau challenge: impossible 😅 ✌️

[odd schooner]

they should already be posted in SNEAKS

[bitter musk]

They should not

[odd schooner]

oh sneaks shouldnt be posted in sneaks

you right my fault 😭

[latent palm]

why not

[bitter musk]

something this small? they shouldnt

[latent palm]

just dont ping

[bitter musk]

you guys the community, in general, will riot over a sneak peak not being enough despite the fact we had to wait 3 weeks for a small sneak peak rather than a big one.

[odd schooner]

what is this argument bro?? 😭

arguing just to argue bro

[glossy quest]

i watched pery and ab plays and when i critique whats shown in those previews people then cop out and say "oh theres a lot of new changes lol" stop moving the goalpost

[odd schooner]

those ytbers cant elaborate for shit

[honest aurora]

do you actually want the devs to show you the new pvp after every single change is implemented

[glossy quest]

yes? ever heard of dev diaries?

[honest aurora]

insane

[bitter musk]

that must be your fault

[honest aurora]

Your anyway

back to being blocked

[odd schooner]

I mean there is a challenge called UPDATE LOGS and SNEAKS

LOOL

[grave oyster]

And also when the YouTubers hardly even know what’s going on sometimes

[odd schooner]

channel*

[honest aurora]

update log is not for shit done in the test server

lmfao

[glossy quest]

ok so why even recommend them to me as part of your argument

lol

[bitter musk]

there's a new video on pvp by the main balancer guy (valk) which was uploaded just yesterday, again ur not doing enough research and then complaining when ur not updated to recent changes

[odd schooner]

you just referenced update changes not testing 💔

[glossy quest]

"go watch the youtubers"

"i did"

"oh theyre bad communicators"

[odd schooner]

.

[glossy quest]

you guys keep moving the goalpost

[odd schooner]

now he has short term memory loss

[honest aurora]

b-b-b-b-b-b-but dev diary

[grave oyster]

What

[honest aurora]

Are you stupid

[odd schooner]

gotta love when people argue to argue

you are refuting your own claims dawg

[honest aurora]

What

[odd schooner]

couldnt be stupider 💔

[honest aurora]

i dont even get what your saying

lol

[odd schooner]

proving my point further

[glossy quest]

you said i needed to watch the youtubers since apparently that has important information i "missed" but when i say i did all of a sudden those videos "arent the whole picture" and "dont elaborate"

[honest aurora]

you want us to use update log for fixes pushed to the test server that will have 0 impact on the live game?

[glossy quest]

so why we advocating the yt previews as good information in the firstr place

[grave oyster]

I’m trying to remember the part where I said that

[bitter musk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pFoP-3lyK8
watch this video for useful information on the new upcoming game mode
it's valk talking about pvp here and what to expect in it

[glossy quest]

it was the goatkuna guy

[odd schooner]

you referenced "changes" not testing

shifting your entire argument

[honest aurora]

bro

can you explain your point

your just commenting on my wording

[glossy quest]

whatever bro

[odd schooner]

I need you to explain yours bro you got me befuzzled

[glossy quest]

these testers want to "surprise" people

to cop out from transparency

[grave oyster]

The videos are just meant to be a very early showcase of the general way a pvp mode works

[grave oyster]

You send modified enemies at your opponent and figure out what counters them and when

[latent palm]

delete ts rn

what the fuck

what is this

white theme

[magic epoch]

My fucking eyes Jesus Christ light mode

[odd schooner]

This wasnt your original claim, go back and read your own message dawg

and stop this light

[grave oyster]

It’s really not that deep at a core level

[versed finch]

Tf is wrong with you man

[honest aurora]

this?

[latent palm]

lets all hate on goatkuna

sybau goatkuna

[odd schooner]

no

[honest aurora]

Then what

😭

[odd schooner]

the one where you reference changes

ill .

wait

[honest aurora]

your trolling right

[odd schooner]

.

[versed finch]

I think I skipped a chapter what are y’all yapping about

[honest aurora]

How does this have to do with anything we are talking about

Bro lowkey 1970 doesnt deserve the role

[odd schooner]

If a change is implemented, then it should be mentioned in update logs no?

I mean its pretty self-explanatory that

[odd schooner]

thats the reason for creating that channel?

[grave oyster]

I fail to see how that’s any different from what kamui’s been saying

[honest aurora]

can you read my msg where i said that changes made in test have never, and will never go in #「📚」update-log bc it has no effect on the live game

[versed finch]

Tf is this for

[grave oyster]

Update logs are for the main game

For the shit that actually affects people

😭

[versed finch]

🥀

[glossy quest]

they keep saying hiding things for "suprises" is the optimal update strategy

[grave oyster]

There’s no shot you think every test server change should be in there too

[glossy quest]

every change is an exagerration

[odd schooner]

He didnt say "test" changes 💔

[polar raft]

he did tho😭

[glossy quest]

you perfectly know what we mean

stop dodging

[polar raft]

changes to a thing that is not in the game is test changes

[versed finch]

I need a ss proof with red circles and arrows pointing to what he’s saying

[honest aurora]

your argument is clearly not a good one when we have to guess what it is

[odd schooner]

"single change" does not equate to tested and modified changes

[grave oyster]

Yes it's an exxaggeration, but that's the point to show how absurd it is

The devs are not going to post every single pvp modification and change in the update log when the mode isn't even out yet

[honest aurora]

its actually pretty crazy that you think changes made to test should be in update log lol

[versed finch]

That’s what y’all are arguing about?

[odd schooner]

not my point 🤦‍♂️

[honest aurora]

then what is 😭

[grave oyster]

man i don't even know what they're arguing about atp

[odd schooner]

gotta love speaking with concord grape roles

[grave oyster]

suggestions is the land of rotting brain cells sometimes

[odd schooner]

whos with me

[honest aurora]

@bitter musk if it was up to me you wouldnt have that role anymore

[versed finch]

Can we go back on topic about the under consideration tag or something like that

[honest aurora]

I love when i ask what your point is and you dont elaborate

[glossy quest]

clearly there is some disconnect between what i saw in the yt vids and what is supposedly in the current build so im just asking for the devs to bridge that gap???? not that serious

[grave oyster]

I will not tolerate this grape slander

[magic epoch]

What is this argument even bro no one knows what anyone’s saying 😭

[polar raft]

that discussion already ended

[versed finch]

I think it’s about test server updates

[odd schooner]

I am lore accurate lelouch

[versed finch]

What was the conclusion

I skipped that episode

[latent palm]

vfjknvcoijniodsvf

[grave oyster]

And they don't want to do that, it's as simple as that. They aren't going to port the changes to live so that the youtubers can showcase the updated builds too

[versed finch]

[spare coral]

Didnt believe in magic until I saw all my dogs turn into snakes

[latent palm]

basically that

[polar raft]

devs still arent going to add the tags themselves because they just dont want to, testers will add aproved tags after that stuff gets added, and declined if it has already been declined

[odd schooner]

This might've been funny if you said it another 3 times

[versed finch]

Ok

[spare coral]

This was only the second time I think

[glossy quest]

no point in using this forum as sei said if the community and devs are operating as two independent entities

[versed finch]

[spare coral]

Devs after 20 minutes of hard work a day

[odd schooner]

say that in fortnite terms gang

[honest aurora]

The issue with suggestions is we have these suggestin reapers who think they know what goes on/should go on behind the scenes and when we say they are clearly wrong they either dont believe it or fail to shift their stance

[spare coral]

They dont have time to approve suggestions

[versed finch]

[spare coral]

Why did goatkuna agree with me

[odd schooner]

do you gotta commentate on everything

[glossy quest]

because he deadass thinks so 💀

[odd schooner]

bro

[spare coral]

I dont think he read my first message

[honest aurora]

missclicked

[odd schooner]

Pftt

[glossy quest]

sure

[honest aurora]

meant to react to my own message

[spare coral]

Sure

[versed finch]

We need more suggestions like the pride month one

[odd schooner]

pffffft

pfffffffft

[honest aurora]

anyway

dont see how not having your suggestion aproved/declined is this much of an issue

[odd schooner]

elaborate

[honest aurora]

like

if its approved you will see it in the update man

[glossy quest]

🤦‍♂️

[spare coral]

And if it isnt

[versed finch]

There was a suggestion that got closed saying that monarch rates should be buffed on pride month

[odd schooner]

well i dont know what month that is

[honest aurora]

then it was clearly declined

[glossy quest]

.

[versed finch]

Next month

[odd schooner]

eh we dont really need pride month

replace it with av month 👍

[bitter musk]

why do you want pride month?

what the fuck?

are you gay or trans

[spare coral]

Yea

[odd schooner]

you cant slander lgbtq becuse half the dev team is lgbtq

[glossy quest]

the video you sent is a whole bunch of yap

[versed finch]

Both

[spare coral]

Is there something wrong with that

[bitter musk]

no proof of that

[bitter musk]

Yes.

[odd schooner]

bro?

are we serious?

[spare coral]

Please elaborate

[odd schooner]

no wait is this guy

actually serious

[bitter musk]

only one dev is trans but what about the rest?

you have no proof on the rest of the dev team

[spare coral]

No its 1970 hes never serious

[odd schooner]

thanks you just proved my point

absoloute moron

[bitter musk]

no?

you said half of the dev team

[odd schooner]

take this bums role away from him

[bitter musk]

1 out of 10

[odd schooner]

every suggestion i see this guy in

[glossy quest]

the people in the gay suggestion were going pretty hard ngl

[odd schooner]

hes always spewing some bs

[odd schooner]

wish i was there to see it

[versed finch]

Straight up being homophobic over a joke

[spare coral]

Youre no different lil bro

[odd schooner]

"devs work for 20 mins a day"

[glossy quest]

its still up

[odd schooner]

bro take a look at the map

[bitter musk]

*complains how we're not getting enough information about pvp

• i redirect you a source that provides a lto of information regarding pvp
• complains if it's a bunch of yapping even though it means getting what you asked for

[spare coral]

What map

[versed finch]

Oh shi it is

[glossy quest]

dude

[versed finch]

#1373380172434112796

[glossy quest]

im 5 min in

and there is literally no new information

[bitter musk]

but you're still getting what you asked for, right?

so why complain

[glossy quest]

because it isnt what i asked for lol

i asked for information about the current build

[honest aurora]

Why does every suggestion go off topic

and why is it always the same ppl making it go off topic

[spare coral]

Maybe if devs approved or declined them

[spare coral]

This wouldnt happen

[glossy quest]

goatkuna waffling as usual

[odd schooner]

.

[glossy quest]

av staff shocked when they leave the community in the dark and the community tries to make speculations

[bitter musk]

if u do accepted tag it makes the community thinks it's getting added next update which would lead to a lot of confusing going around

[glossy quest]

i just realized

its so stupid

[spare coral]

We are like the only people talking in suggestions in general

[glossy quest]

they say they hide update content so people can "speculate"

[odd schooner]

then specify what "accepted" means bro its such an easy solution

[glossy quest]

but they get mad when people get info "wrong"

[odd schooner]

youre over-complicating it for no reason

[glossy quest]

like wtf

[bitter musk]

remove accepted and just add an seen tag
will make the community happy knowing the devs has caught their attention on this suggestion

accepted is so stupid

[odd schooner]

It is the same exact shit 🤦‍♂️

[bitter musk]

seen and accepted are two different things

are you high

[odd schooner]

blacklist this guy from ever chatting again

[glossy quest]

like how you gon say this and then get mad when people get stuff wrong

[odd schooner]

the concept is the EXACT same

[glossy quest]

you literally did this to yourself

[odd schooner]

everytime i see this bum in a thread my mood plummets

[honest aurora]

how about we all stop yapping about your suggestions in other peoples suggestions

[bitter musk]

prove it,

[spare coral]

Wtf man why did the players speculate about the solo leveling update? Lets make fun of them

[bitter musk]

sl update 2.0 is confirmed to come

[pure lynx]

This is only for suggestions, move ur conversation to a different channel.

[floral tiger]

from what i see

someone speculates something
someone else counter-speculates
no actual response from anyone who has the info OR confirmation that there will not be any info given
repeat same thing 10 times
still no info
something else is brought up
offtopic begins

[glossy quest]

??????????

bro

we are literally talking about the game state

how is it off topic

[spare coral]

We are literally talking about the suggestion

[glossy quest]

staff on sum bs rn

[spare coral]

And its ramifications

[glossy quest]

this conversation is literally taking about dev communication regarding suggestions

yikes

[versed finch]

Fuck Jeff the land shark

[pure lynx]

talking about above

[spare coral]

No guys please dont talk in negative light

[pure lynx]

if u know ur not then dw

[spare coral]

About the game

[glossy quest]

alright mb 🙏

[versed finch]

Can we all move the conversation to this suggestion

#1371562225176678453

[void brook]

No

[odd schooner]

yeahhhhh nobody was talking to you

[spare coral]

🐺 move the banter to general. Or else

[odd schooner]

[opaque yoke]

Breh, the approved tag was removed

[odd schooner]

[floral tiger]

ay a direct response achieved

[glossy quest]

staff when people are mad about no sneaks (they want the community to speculate):

staff when people speculate (they expect the community to know about an update the devs didnt tell anyone about):

[spare coral]

Goatkuna is watching

[grave oyster]

Why are we mad about people actually speculating again?

[frozen halo]

Look what youve done 😠

[void brook]

No hd isn’t

[glossy quest]

read the 2nd line

[grave oyster]

Yes

Again

[odd schooner]

Take this useless chatting to general guys, this is extremely disrespectful

[grave oyster]

Why, or rather how are we getting mad about just speculation

[versed finch]

Because I said so that’s why

[grave oyster]

[hollow bridge]

[grave oyster]

Damn, he got me, guess I'm out

[glossy quest]

was kamui not literally crashing out because i supposedly didnt know about pvp and was just going off based what i saw

[honest aurora]

what

i dont know why i clicked show msg

I was suprised you wanted every single pvp change made on the test server to be documented

[glossy quest]

or how about just forward all the stuff in #「🚀」general-2 to #「💡」sneaks

not that serious

[versed finch]

What is in no access

[glossy quest]

A bunch of stuff apparently

Search 1970’s image history

[radiant crown]

Tbh why are ppl even allowed to write under suggestions suggestions should just be suggestions and ppl being able to react instead of all ts 🥀

[void brook]

How else will people know their suggestion is shit

[glossy quest]

Discourse literally creates new ideas and allows for compromise what are you talking about

[radiant crown]

Doesn't it's the same 4 guys debating everywhere

[radiant crown]

When they see Ls

[floral tiger]

Ive been given ideas to expand my suggestions before
Although its rare
I suppose its fair to say the majority is pointless, but sometimes, opinions are actually shared

[glossy quest]

Not at all

[spare coral]

Even if that were true (its not) it still wouldn't change the fact that discourse is good

[radiant crown]

Most of the debate is pointless anyways

[glossy quest]

No they do cover important issues

[radiant crown]

Can u name anything which actually made it better

[spare coral]

Im afraid Im under no such obligation

[radiant crown]

lol

[glossy quest]

Look at miso beefs holy update in stage suggestions

Dude they removed tags

[floral tiger]

But now we heard it from a dev directly that they read them

[radiant crown]

Seen pyseph a few times interacting

[floral tiger]

Ive unfortunately only seen Pyseph under troll suggestions and ragebait

But now, i can rest assured that the devs including Pyseph sometimes see the suggestions with effort and thought put into them

Goodbye "add trait transfer 2000"

[spare coral]

Of course broski. They said so

It must be true

[floral tiger]

Ill just take it

[radiant crown]

They should actually add a way to filter out ppl who always make shit suggestions or use it to troll

[versed finch]

Pyseph gets ragebaited too much

[floral tiger]

Suggestions blacklist exists

But noones ever got it before (probably wrong but it sure feels like it)

[void brook]

Our goat 1970 had it

[spare coral]

Dont say our

[void brook]

Why

[spare coral]

Hes a wolf

[void brook]

And we’re his pack

[lost dew]

Sub announcement is 100% targeted to this 😔😔

[spare coral]

Also Im pretty sure seilo specifically told us once that we could just chat in suggestions

[glossy quest]

Sure i guess but its more of this “trust me bro” stuff instead of actually working towards being more transparent

Tags where like the one thing besides testers that bridged the communication gap

[floral tiger]

Iiiiii getcha, nothin thoughtout or goodfaith ever seems to get a response
But tbh, ive given it what i wanted already, ill just see where it goes on its own and work on my own things instead
Unless one enjoys writing suggestions, they are better off just making them a reality themselves

[glossy quest]

Cs was a half life mod 🗣️

Dota was a warcraft mod 🗣️

[wintry epoch]

pyseph replied !!

this was def needed though to let us know if devs actually looked or not

[glossy quest]

We still dont have confirmation

[somber arrow]

Tbh they dont even had 90% of the highest voted suggestions lol
Tbf a lot of these suggestions I see are not great

[glossy quest]

Unless you want to take their word for it

[wintry epoch]

ig so

something that could be nice is like them replying to the spotlight suggestions

idk

[glossy quest]

Half of it being because no one has any idea of what is coming to the game or not and people are just making random guesses as to what ought to be added

[somber arrow]

I just think if enough people are voting on stuff and requesting it they should add
the devs should def consider adding it

[somber arrow]

yeah that's a good point, they don't tease anything cuz devs do be stealing
but AV shouldn't be afraid of that if they are so confident in their updates

[spare coral]

I dont know what they woulf even steal from a sneak

They cant just magically port the vfx

[glossy quest]

It doesnt make any sense to be scared either how are they going to be worried

Once they release content other games can copy it anyway

And its not like another game is going to make a superior replica of the concept from scratch and release it before av does, especially since av would have a working prototype by the time they even sneak something in the first place

[somber arrow]

Like I see people say SOME form of soft pity at the least for things like Igirs or Choy or Yammamoto
but they just sidestep the whole problem by saying they wont ever add it
not giving a reason, or trying to negotiate with people

[somber arrow]

exactly

[glossy quest]

.

Devs are just being naive in that regard

1970 has spawned

[somber arrow]

spooky

[bitter musk]

Just because the community is asking for a soft pity or something like that doesn't force the devs to respond and add it?

[spare coral]

Or maybe theyre scared of sneaking units early and als just implementing them before the av update even releases

[somber arrow]

Yeah, but if enough people are saying there should be some kind of it
the devs should at the very least explain why they dont want it

[glossy quest]

Units are the only things they do put in #「💡」sneaks 😭

They dont sneak any gameplay

[somber arrow]

Like im not blaming the devs here, I just want to know why they dont explain themselves for the more popular suggestions they deny

[glossy quest]

Pvp being the only exception

[somber arrow]

PvP better be worth it istg

[spare coral]

I have faith in pvp

[bitter musk]

there's a good reason why the devs don't respond or ignore suggestions or leave it to one person to do the job is cuz yall suggest stupid suggestions that clearly do not deserve to get added in the game and STILL will ask why is it being declined when its obvious what the answer is

[somber arrow]

After playing ASTD PvP I do not

[glossy quest]

If what we saw in the previews is what were getting im not going to play it

[spare coral]

Altho it is pretty goofy that they literally made new modifiers specifically to counter the dmc units

[glossy quest]

And im 60% sure thats the case

[somber arrow]

Ovb the answer isnt obvious enough if people keep asking for it lol

Like im sure they have a decent reason for not adding it
but it doesnt hurt to explain why in a little bit of detail

[glossy quest]

They need to direct the community to give targeted feedback

Through more polls and whatnot

[bitter musk]

that's why they gotta ignore their own community because they're the one who knows what good for the future of this game, by that logic if the community suggests changing the monarch pity from 2500 to 1k, obviously everyone will spam it all over the channel to force the devs to response and add it or else face a backlash?

[bitter musk]

even worse

polls can be rigged

[glossy quest]

36k and dropping

Let me know if the future looks bright

[somber arrow]

QnA is a good step in a good direction
I would just like to see them explain a bit more in detail

[bitter musk]

what's the problem? they're making 7 figs biweekly

[void brook]

That’s cause ur bad

[bitter musk]

ccu is the least of their problemes

[glossy quest]

And you know this how?

Bro thinks hes a part of the team

[somber arrow]

no Astd PvP was not good lol

[bitter musk]

they're willing to spend 50m robux just for an update, i don't think money is a problem plus they're paying valk $30k usd monthly.

[void brook]

It was

[glossy quest]

Valk is making more than a senior fang engineer?

[lost dew]

How is there hate when pvp isnt even out yet 😭😭

[glossy quest]

Hard chance bub

[somber arrow]

30 minute long runs are not good lol

[bitter musk]

old balance team was being paid $20k monthly

[somber arrow]

Do those lower monarch pity ever even get traction?
I dont see them pop off too often

[void brook]

It was 25mins max

[bitter musk]

now that valk has been part of the new balancer for a year now, it's fair to say they've raised up his salary for being loyal, and doing a good job on his current position within the av

[somber arrow]

thats still not great lol
rewards werent worth at all unless you liked trading as well

[glossy quest]

To edit a trello board? 💀 💔 🙏

[bitter musk]

he's in charge of everything,

the updates, the roadmap and the balancing itself

[spare coral]

Valk literally designs the units

Like their passives I mean

[bitter musk]

same with the roadmap?

which is extremely important

[glossy quest]

Why is only one guy doing that

[digital tree]

devs don’t wanna pull a yandev ig

[bitter musk]

it tells you the future of this game's updates

[glossy quest]

Or does he have teammates

[spare coral]

Yea I know valk is carrying this game hard

[spare coral]

Whats a yanderedev

[bitter musk]

it's his job

[versed finch]

LOL

[glossy quest]

Um sorry but you dont usually have one person filling that kind of role

[bitter musk]

nothing in this world is free,

[digital tree]

…

[versed finch]

elite ball knowledge

[bitter musk]

aaa companies?

ubisoft does it at least

[novel badge]

i think its a dev thats obbsessive n violent n loves ppl

[spare coral]

You said theyre pulling a yandev. You cant just not explain what that entails

[bitter musk]

probably because they're currently going bankrupt

[glossy quest]

Ubisoft has one person doing all the balancing?

[novel badge]

bc thats what yandere means

[sick shuttle]

Instead of arguing tell me if genshin is worth playing

[bitter musk]

for r6, they do

[spare coral]

Hell nah

[novel badge]

just try it out

[digital tree]

They’re gonna take less suggestions moving forward (half of them were shit anyways)

[glossy quest]

Skirk cant save mid 🤣

[shy saddle]

No gogeta

For months

I’ve lost count of how many presents I’ve spent

[novel badge]

im p sure they werent taking much suggestions in anyways

only the ones that appealed to them

[glossy quest]

You need to give sources for this man

First youre saying 360k/yr sallaries

[tight oak]

dawg I make like 1/5th of this, the old balancers individually made double what I do each.

[glossy quest]

Now youre saying r6 balancing is done by one guy

[bitter musk]

why do i need to give sources? just join their discord server and you'll get your answer, there are official people from he r6 development team in there

[glossy quest]

Brother

Ykw i cant

Im hopping on a game

[bitter musk]

this is why youll never achieve anything of what you've done asked, you ask too many questions and proceed not to do any research

[glossy quest]

You say that as you literally got valks salary wrong

[spare coral]

Bro you literally just made up numbers about valks salary

[glossy quest]

You buffoon

[spare coral]

You cant be talking

[sick shuttle]

I wish I was rich so I could buy a mansion

[sick shuttle]

Look at his role

[bitter musk]

kindness is your weakness brother, don't let anybody take advantage of it

[glossy quest]

💀

Im dead

[shy saddle]

[bitter musk]

first of all, how was I supposed to know what his salary was? you guys didn't give me enough time to do research so i had no choice but to assume it was the same as the old balance team

[glossy quest]

Youre mad funny icl

[glossy quest]

[spare coral]

You do realize that you arent forced to make up numbers if you dont know them right?

[glossy quest]

Bro has lost the plot

😭

[spare coral]

Just dont talk about it if you dont fucking know it

[bitter musk]

i'm quietly confused on why he isnt earning the same numbers as the old balance, i mean he's putting in more work and effort and he has way more responsibilities to take care and he's earning less money?

[glossy quest]

Society ☕

[spare coral]

Sure I agree that hes doing a better job than the old team were

[shy saddle]

What’s the script again?
-# AgAin?
-# And AgAin

[glossy quest]

Good work btw thanks for your effort

[tight oak]

[shy saddle]

Rare Goku buff when?

[tight oak]

ultimate gohan

[sick shuttle]

tell them to make vergil summon 5 clones pls

for balance

[glossy quest]

🗣️

[tight oak]

[lost dew]

Madara vangaurd when?

[shy saddle]

[tight oak]

Real

[shy saddle]

Never

[lost dew]

Cant give the king off rrs anything less

[sick shuttle]

good

and make obito a rare

[lost dew]

Real

He has no place being a mythic

[sick shuttle]

someone agrees with me

[lost dew]

From best to worst mythic 😔😔

Powercreep be huge in this game 😔😔

[sick shuttle]

its not that bad

he can still be used…

[lost dew]

For what 😭😭🙏🙏

[sick shuttle]

sjw bait

[lost dew]

Waiting for tournament obito 500% buff 🙏🙏🙏

[sick shuttle]

how much his burn even do

[polar raft]

still wont be used

[cunning sleet]

powercreep isnt huge old balancers just didnt know anything besides +20% dmg on placement

[glossy quest]

strongest sorcerer

[lost dew]

(peak gameplay)

[glossy quest]

we need mimi rework

ong

[sick shuttle]

who

[spare coral]

Please keep it on topic for the suggestion.

[void brook]

Momo ayase

[glossy quest]

momo from 1.5

[lost dew]

Game braking fate update coulda added +20% passive buffs, yall went overboard 😔😔

[sick shuttle]

def sjw bait

[sick shuttle]

Tbh

[cunning sleet]

and then they proceeded to say that weve only been able to do our new passives cause “av hired like 3 new programmers after we quit” (kazi yuru and i did all the passives until 5.0)

[sick shuttle]

They still being used

well saber, gilg and lancer

[glossy quest]

wild

[sick shuttle]

medea is too

[cunning sleet]

theyre so lost in the sauce they had to make up excuses for being bad devs

[sick shuttle]

if you don’t have lucy

[lost dew]

Made all those passives but saber still hasnt got her cosmetic 😔🙏🙏

[spare coral]

Pyseph make medea one shot god statues again please

[glossy quest]

making excuses on your way out is so sleazy

[lost dew]

Fate was meant to be the best upd

[spare coral]

Shes literally useless now

[sick shuttle]

Again?

💀

wtf was she doing

[glossy quest]

she could nullify the statues

[spare coral]

Not the boss

The side statues

[lost dew]

Was madea really that good...

[sick shuttle]

oh

[spare coral]

That you have to beat first

[cunning sleet]

not nullify

[polar raft]

she could oneshot up to 5 non boss enemies
well still can

[spare coral]

Also mahito too

[cunning sleet]

her friendly enemy conversion stuff worked on the statues which was a bug

[glossy quest]

doesn the nullify description say disable any inherent enemy mechanic

[sick shuttle]

so she was good for solo leveling lb…

[polar raft]

statues and mahito existing isnt really a enemy mechanic

[sick shuttle]

it worked on mahito too?

[polar raft]

yea

[sick shuttle]

is that how ppl got high waves

[spare coral]

It worked on cid too

[polar raft]

cuz they werent considered bosses

[spare coral]

Thats why it got fixed

[lost dew]

Pyseph give me you're blessing for shiny cid luck 🙏🙏

[sick shuttle]

She had her moments

[glossy quest]

this forum is not good for my health

i get so toxic in here for no reason

[misty heron]

100 AV players vs Reading comprehension

[lost dew]

Tbh ive never used madea cuz when she was good I couldn't get her off banner

[restive roost]

oh my gosh guys the devs saw this suggestion

is that why they said that in sub announcement?

[sick shuttle]

I used to use rider

honestly she wasn’t bad

[spare coral]

Safe assumption to make

Medea might be meta in pvp tbh

If enemy sends 1 big enemy with a lot of health

[tight oak]

No the jump between update 0 and jjk was INSANE powercreep wise, which makes how awful the 1.5 and 1.75 units were even more curious

[spare coral]

You one shot

[sick shuttle]

Unironically

Delta might be meta

[spare coral]

Hell nah

[sick shuttle]

hear me out

[spare coral]

Delta will never be good because she targets weakest

[sick shuttle]

Number 1 delta player

[lost dew]

Deltas the goat man wym...

[misty heron]

ts so true

[spare coral]

1 of the 3 delta players

[misty heron]

basically all old Units are self buffers

[somber arrow]

Quick question, not trying to be rude or anything
Other than not adding it because it might make the game not feel worth it
Are there any other reasons why you don't want a form of Pity or even Soft Pity (Soft pity being it caps out percentage at like 5% or something)
I'm just curious as to why

[sick shuttle]

Sukuna is a bleed buffer

[somber arrow]

Hopefully I get a response lol 🙏

[sick shuttle]

we need bleed…

for sukuna

[polar raft]

too bad bleed buffing is useless unless its a massive buff (sukuna isnt)

[void brook]

Delta is good

[versed finch]

Why do devs respond to trash suggestions like this but not good ones💔

[polar raft]

same issue with rengoku
the buff is so minor

[spare coral]

Rengoku is meta with choy

[polar raft]

no hes not😭

[lost dew]

Wait for his double evo in upd 15.5 🙏🙏

[spare coral]

Trust me pal I know what Im talking about

[sick shuttle]

rengoku cause too much

cost*

[glossy quest]

standard monarch dps is now 33k when it was like 22k a bit ago

[sick shuttle]

meant for his buff

[glossy quest]

oh no im just talking about in general

[misty heron]

King’s Curse
Attacks inflict Bleed for 30% of this units Damage; Attacks before upgrade 9 Cleave enemies, making them take 20% more DMG from Bleed
Sinister Sanctum
(Upgrade 8) Gains the ability Sinister Sanctum; DMG +1% for each kill during Sinister Sanctum (up to +30%).
Divine Flames
(Upgrade 9) Gains the Fire Element; DMG +40%; Attacks inflict Burn for 30% of this units Damage; Immune to Stun.

[lost dew]

Saber/ saber alter / gogeta ect all had more than 20k

[spare coral]

20% more damage to bleed when the best bleed unit is alucard

Its over

[sick shuttle]

Uhh

[glossy quest]

doesnt saber require sakura to have that dps though

and gogeta is a vanguard

[sick shuttle]

Maybe we’ll get another bleed buffer

[glossy quest]

im talking about standard secret units

[sick shuttle]

someday

[misty heron]

Choso still the best bleed dps

[lost dew]

Nah, she has like 20-30k dps without sokora

[spare coral]

Another bleed buffer before a good bleed dps

Good idea

[sick shuttle]

i thought kisuke was

[lost dew]

Even more im pretty sure

[polar raft]

kiske dps is garbage

[sick shuttle]

i got lied to

[lost dew]

Ive seen her go up 2 40k dps

[misty heron]

kiskae is barely a support now

[glossy quest]

they "fixed a bug" for him

[polar raft]

kiske's only use was his bugged perma wounded

[glossy quest]

[lost dew]

That alucard buff cooked kiskae

[spare coral]

Why did they remove that

[misty heron]

Choso being goated since UP 1

[spare coral]

Could have been a feature

[sick shuttle]

thhats

[spare coral]

Now every tournament is just alucard

[sick shuttle]

a broken ass feature

[misty heron]

3,6M Gems and no Alucard

[lost dew]

Choso and vegita sukuna boss event win condition 🙏🙏
The good ol days

[cunning sleet]

its a grind game at its heart. remove the grinding part, and people stop playing

[spare coral]

130 cid raids and 0 birbs

Please add pity

[sick shuttle]

for what

[glossy quest]

but you can make other things to grind than traits yk

[misty heron]

Pyseph Pls give me an Alucard, i Just spend 3,6M Gems and i think i cant do It to 5M

[spare coral]

For the birb

[versed finch]

🥀

[dreamy robin]

when we running

[polar raft]

at 5M you get him shiny trust

[somber arrow]

Yeah that makes sense ig
thank you for actually responding tho lol

[sick shuttle]

its ok

at least hes not unobtainable

[glossy quest]

i wouldnt even call it a grind game

its an idle

game

av is an idle game atp

[spare coral]

It doesnt tho. People would still grind until they hit pity

[misty heron]

If i cant get him he is unob for ME

[somber arrow]

Yeah that's true

[versed finch]

Td games are idle games

[rich aspen]

why is bro agreeing because its a devb

[glossy quest]

the genre no, the atd subgenre yes

[rich aspen]

adding a pity doesnt remove a grind

😭

[somber arrow]

I mean it makes sense from a dev standpoint
plus theyve alr said they wont add it so I'm basically done trying to argue for it lol

[versed finch]

Lowkey the worst excuse they’ve made oat

[glossy quest]

its disingenuous to call rr farming a "grind"

its just afking

[spare coral]

Obviously pity wouldnt be like 3 runs

[glossy quest]

or unit farming

[sick shuttle]

pity should be 1 run for me and me only tbh

its fair

[versed finch]

Als is the most grindest game ever and they got a pity

[rich aspen]

as a dev your job is to make a enjoyable game that can make money

[spare coral]

If anything Id feel more motivated to grind if i knew there was a guarantee at the end of the tunnel

[glossy quest]

they should just add every shiny to my acc

[rich aspen]

NOT milk playtime and calling it a grind

[glossy quest]

yeah i agree

[somber arrow]

I tried suggesting a soft pity
do the raid 10 times, than every 3 runs after increase chance by 0.25% up to a max of 5% (TOTAL)

[glossy quest]

calling the current game state a "grind"

is inaccurate

[somber arrow]

yeah that makes sense

[shy saddle]

Me when I actually play my game
-# Omygod this shit sum ass

[glossy quest]

raise valk salary! 🗣️

get my boy out of the trenches

[rich aspen]

pyseph dont even play roblox 😭

[shy saddle]

Ofc he doesn’t 💀

[misty heron]

Theres nothing to me (Release player with 13 Monarchs) to actually Grind except FAMILIARS and Rrs

[glossy quest]

bungie motto said it best with "we make games we want to play"

[somber arrow]

Ive been playing since release and I still don't have a monarch lol
Im just unlucky like that

[spare coral]

Bro destiny 2 isnt going too strong currently

[rich aspen]

it hasnt for a while

[sick shuttle]

aint that game drad

[glossy quest]

😖

[sick shuttle]

dead

[rich aspen]

loyal players still there

slowly leaving bit by bit

[spare coral]

I mean the game dies like every year

Before the expansion

[rich aspen]

somehow warframe is STILL thriving

thats why its my goat

[sick shuttle]

halo is too

[spare coral]

And then a lot of players come back for a few months

[sick shuttle]

and im not questioning it

tbh

[rich aspen]

warfarme is a game where a grind is actually a grind and not milking you for playtime

except for rivens

dont get into rivens

[spare coral]

Surely. New land beyond catalyst will give it infinite ammo again

[glossy quest]

eidolons and duviri are awesome sauce

[misty heron]

warframe grind is funny

hack n Slash are funny when the mechanics are good

Anime saga tried to do it

[spare coral]

Bullet sponge enemies

[glossy quest]

me when i hit 999 trillion damage cap

[misty heron]

i think we are getting a Roblox game too serious atp

this platform is cooked

[glossy quest]

more than gameplay these games need a good buildcrafting system

i aint going to lie

this evo stuff

and food/fuse stuff

is ass

[spare coral]

Yea levels literally dont do anything

[versed finch]

I wish a atd copied tds format

[spare coral]

Theyre a slight inconvenience

[misty heron]

Actually Levels and Evos are so easy to make that It feels useless

like

do a unit summon with Level 60 and already Evod

[shy saddle]

I want more freaking mile stones

[misty heron]

and im not using It without Monarch

[spare coral]

Yea evod, level 60 units are literally the default

Nobody uses anything under that

[sick shuttle]

different upgrades give you different things?

[glossy quest]

yeah idk devs are full steam ahead to the next grand gamemode when theres a lot of basic stuff that needs reworking

[sick shuttle]

I saw a suggestion like that

[versed finch]

That’s tdx

[sick shuttle]

oh shit

💀

[glossy quest]

i dont think anyone caught that part of my message in my fix the game suggestion

[spare coral]

Nah the btd approach wouldnt work in a game with this many units

[versed finch]

TDS is where you can grind all the characters without gambling your life away

[misty heron]

Paragon and Odyssey ahh

[sick shuttle]

eh that’s different from av tho

[shy saddle]

It’s gonna be funny when some huge bug comes out of nowhere during that PvP tournament LOL

[spare coral]

They have had more than enough time to test pvp now lol

Surely it wont be a buggy mess

[versed finch]

Oddyssey needs a remaster

[glossy quest]

bringing epic inosuke will somehow cause an insta kill bug

[versed finch]

Paragon needs to revert to its old self

[shy saddle]

😭

[sick shuttle]

toji back to being meta??

[versed finch]

Yes

[spare coral]

Also can't wait for the meta to devolve into keeping enemies alive on your side of the map so the opponent lags out

[versed finch]

I think that’s what happened to astds pvp

Units were so op

[shy saddle]

Oh no

[versed finch]

You just spammed spawned

[polar raft]

good luck doing that

[spare coral]

Im gonna win that tournament lil bro

[frozen halo]

Lagshooter, go!

[polar raft]

this unit is too powerful for this realm or whatever the message says

[shy saddle]

We endin both our games

[sick shuttle]

meta pvp unit

[spare coral]

You cant use lagshooter if you play with others

[shy saddle]

With this sacred treasure I summon Lagshooter

[frozen halo]

I wonder if draws are possible

[glossy quest]

imagine someone finds a way to get lagshooter into a pvp match

[shy saddle]

Probably

[sterile elbow]

wow it worked lol

[shy saddle]

What worked

[sterile elbow]

the suggestion announcement

[shy saddle]

oh

[sick shuttle]

will this suggestion

die them

[sterile elbow]

yea lol

[sick shuttle]

then

[glossy quest]

its an easy thing for them to comment on so yeah

[sterile elbow]

no

[polar raft]

you cant place lagshooter if theres multiple players
idk how someone would get around that

[frozen halo]

Hes technically not affected by energy drain, so ig lmao

[sterile elbow]

the devs actively read the suggestions but don’t interact

[glossy quest]

which defeats the whole point imo

[versed finch]

They could atleast give there two cents into spotlight suggestions like bg “games” do

[glossy quest]

am i cooked

[sterile elbow]

so to avoid confusion they just removed the approved, declined, and already planned tags

[sterile elbow]

yea maybe

like “this is cool”

or sum

[spare coral]

I dont see how going from bad communication to zero communication is good

[versed finch]

Or like a random emoji like

[sterile elbow]

same bro 💀

[shy saddle]

So erm what are they gonna do abt Stage Suggestionsbwo

[spare coral]

They dont care about those

[sterile elbow]

idk

yea they don’t

[versed finch]

Who reads those

[sick shuttle]

I seen some good ones

[shy saddle]

Me

[sterile elbow]

a lot of ppl

[sick shuttle]

some of them are unique

i cant lie

[versed finch]

The only one I’ve seen is Miso beefs

[sterile elbow]

i think the only stage suggestion they used was steel ball run one

[misty heron]

literally nor players nor devs read it, It basically a useless Channel ngl

[shy saddle]

MY LORD AND SAVIOR MISO’S SUGGESTION WILL BE ADDED

[spare coral]

Theres a ton of players who read them

[sterile elbow]

a lot of players do read it

i make some too

[versed finch]

Idk about a lot

But stage is kinda useless ngl

[spare coral]

There used to be a lot

But suggestions in general died

[shy saddle]

😔

[sick shuttle]

This had to be seen

its no way

[versed finch]

Suggesting like a whole update theme that will never be added

[sterile elbow]

it’s for fun

[lost dew]

I need this so badly...

[sterile elbow]

a lot of ppl read it

[versed finch]

It’s a waste of time ngl

[shy saddle]

It’s fun to read

[sterile elbow]

that’s what u think

[spare coral]

So is playing a roblox game

[sterile elbow]

it’s a hooby to us

[shy saddle]

You wouldn’t understand 💔

[spare coral]

But you still do it

[sterile elbow]

hobby*

[frozen halo]

I was planning in doing some but i just gave up lmao

[sick shuttle]

People make suggestions because they want it to get in

[versed finch]

No I don’t m💔

[misty heron]

Stages is a cool event but It would be cooler If they bring UP Stages suggestions by players and do nkt give voice to Yt's 24/7

[sick shuttle]

sometimes it gets in sometimes it dont

[versed finch]

I play marvel rivals and lose 24/7

[spare coral]

Thats even worse

[sterile elbow]

💀

waste of time

[sick shuttle]

thats

worse

[versed finch]

Nuh uh

[sick shuttle]

is ultron good

[shy saddle]

Crucify your device

[sick shuttle]

or annoying

[versed finch]

He’s not out yet

[glossy quest]

thats just not possible

[sick shuttle]

Ain’t there a test server

[spare coral]

I wont play marvel rivals until they add modok as a tank

[sterile elbow]

i bet a dev is reading rn

[versed finch]

Yea

[spare coral]

Pyseph already unfollowed

[versed finch]

Do y’all not get that what I said was a joke🥀

[glossy quest]

i havent played that game since f4

[sterile elbow]

😔

prob right too

[glossy quest]

you can read without following the post

[spare coral]

Fuuu I lost the 75-25 in hsr lc banner

Im gonna get angwy

[sterile elbow]

i think he means like he won’t read it no more

[shy saddle]

Can the AV devs make an interesting boss fight???

[versed finch]

Ws

[glossy quest]

your first mistake was playing hsr

[versed finch]

No it’s a td game

[sterile elbow]

cid was a step up ig

[shy saddle]

[sterile elbow]

not enough tho

[versed finch]

CID sucked ass

[severe kestrel]

please also add to allow shiny transfers

[versed finch]

It felt like a pesky task

[severe kestrel]

(real i have no shinies)

[sterile elbow]

place saber and click a button

u win

[lost dew]

Real

[sick shuttle]

im at 230

[lost dew]

Couldn't be me

[sick shuttle]

i stopped for a while

[sterile elbow]

gotta be a lb player

[lost dew]

Nope

[versed finch]

I was grinding for a 100% black spirit

[sterile elbow]

nahh no way

[severe kestrel]

frieren and katakari are lame

[versed finch]

But I gave up

[spare coral]

You couldnt even get katakuri from lb yet

[sterile elbow]

oh yea

[versed finch]

Now imma just farm rrs to get monarch cid

[lost dew]

Bro ong, I ain play lb

Shit takes 2 long

[sick shuttle]

surprised we can still type

[versed finch]

Boss rush reset

[spare coral]

Theyre gonna implement a 20 minute cd first

[polar raft]

im tempted to do that because you said it

[glossy quest]

oh naur

[sick shuttle]

its over

[spare coral]

🐺 dont even think about it

[versed finch]

Change boss rush back to igris

[polar raft]

no

igris had his week

[versed finch]

🥀

[rocky sphinx]

Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time

[versed finch]

[rocky sphinx]

Sorry boss!

[sick shuttle]

igris is the best unit in game

[rocky sphinx]

I wont make stage suggestions again

[sick shuttle]

only real goats have him

[versed finch]

That’s why I have monarch on him

[shy saddle]

What

[fleet roost]

anything not related to the topic

will be warned and muted

[versed finch]

Do it no balls

[shy saddle]

…

[sick shuttle]

oh

[rocky sphinx]

Thats after i finally post the one ive been working on

[shy saddle]

Oh ok

[spare coral]

So guys lets talk about the suggestion

[shy saddle]

Yea

[rocky sphinx]

What even is the suggestion

[spare coral]

I personally am of the belief that going from bad communication to worse isnt s good idea

[fleet roost]

ok

[spare coral]

How do you guys feel about this conundrum

[fleet roost]

past this ill start warning and muting unless you all have been verbaled

[spare coral]

Arigato

[sick shuttle]

I think it was about the communication….

[rocky sphinx]

Was it bad?

[spare coral]

It still is

Even worse now arguably

[rocky sphinx]

Idk i swear i see netheresonent guy in every thread

Kinda like the spokesperson for the devs no?

[spare coral]

Please keep it on topic

[rocky sphinx]

But it is tho😭

[fleet roost]

wait i wanna

[sick shuttle]

I see goatkuna most of the time

[fleet roost]

read this suggestion though

[sick shuttle]

I do too

[spare coral]

No one is stopping you

[rocky sphinx]

I allow it

[sick shuttle]

I can’t scroll up on mobile

[fleet roost]

heh someone link me to the start

im on mobile

[rocky sphinx]

Here

[glossy quest]

mods it aint that deep

[shy saddle]

E

[sick shuttle]

yea they need to make a arrow to scroll up

[glossy quest]

automod already blocks everything

[sick shuttle]

all the way on mobile

[fleet roost]

wait

someone cooked here

i respect your opinion

[rocky sphinx]

Btw u can click here to jump to the top of threads on mobile

[spare coral]

Doesnt work on android

[fleet roost]

OHHH

[sick shuttle]

How did you find that out

😭

[rocky sphinx]

Hidden tech

[spare coral]

Guys you are going off topic again

[rocky sphinx]

Sorry boss!

[glossy quest]

[spare coral]

Im gonna get angwy

[shy saddle]

-# so many things

[spare coral]

Yea so about the suggestion

Sorry I forgot