#Why are we going back to stupid decision making and shadow nerfing things without telling anyone?

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magic vine
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yikes

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I remember drama with psyeph around the Jjk upd and ddd upd where he was crashing out

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Said some shit about the community being absolute shit

magic vine
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at least about #「💬」general

ripe arrow
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I saw him in there a few days ago

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Did not like what ppl said about the rrs nerf

wooden drift
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I can kinda understand why pyseph was so hesitant to make an announcement on things because of shit like that happening

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But I don't think it was enough to really not at least let the players know

ripe arrow
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Should’ve just done a poll

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The black marketing excuse was so bs

magic vine
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and in turn help to self-moderate the community

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or maybe they did

wooden drift
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This was like, way back iirc

ripe arrow
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Yeah

wooden drift
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I wasn't following AV much at the time

magic vine
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like 1.1?

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it seems like they got doxxed by aa players

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recently at least

ripe arrow
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The drama with psyeph hating the community was around 0.5-1.5 iirc

magic vine
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oh wait

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nvm i saw their msg with the google doc now

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damn

novel pelican
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I wouldn’t blame anyone for hating this community

wooden drift
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I don’t know enough to really speak with much certainty on the topic

ripe arrow
wooden drift
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Aside from just “yeah, the community is more than a little insane sometimes”

novel pelican
ripe arrow
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Both those games so shit

magic vine
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surely there can be a vetting system or something

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i guess there is applications for testers

ripe arrow
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Inf lb reference

wooden drift
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But those crashout messages are mostly for the sake of a joke. There’s probably some drive behind them, but mostly because of just how the community has been in the past and isn’t really meant to be an attack on people nowadays

magic vine
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the more you know ig

wooden drift
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Even if the announcement was made before the change happened, the backlash on it likely would’ve been just as bad, but a lot less justifiable

magic vine
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ignorant of me to not attempt to understand why pyseph is closed off

ripe arrow
silent pendant
wooden drift
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Not excusing not saying anything for a while though

ripe arrow
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Then you buff and shadow nerf

silent pendant
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you'd know the ratio

wooden drift
silent pendant
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there's no point in creating a poll

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bro, yall so stupid LMAO

wooden drift
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The system was supposed to be in place for a while

ripe arrow
wooden drift
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And I guarantee you the poll would’ve been overwhelmingly against the limit

silent pendant
wooden drift
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Given the one suggestion that basically had a poll on it

silent pendant
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I think you deserve a mute, hmm

magic vine
wooden drift
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I could agree with those

silent pendant
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it's the game managers job to forward them to the devs,

wooden drift
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No?

silent pendant
wooden drift
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If anything it’s usually the testers that look in suggestions and will talk about things with them

magic vine
# silent pendant why first one?

not enough transparency/immediacy between devs and the #1315875683603447969 community for things to be as productive as they should be

silent pendant
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why do you think Andrevious was responding to popular suggestions or the ones that caught their attention?

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that's because it was his job

wooden drift
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Either because some of the suggestions are already planned regardless of the post

silent pendant
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They gave him the game manager role

magic vine
wooden drift
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Or because we’re actually discussing good suggestions we’d like to see

wooden drift
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wooden drift
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At best you could say “planned” as an overall

ripe arrow
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He was horrid

magic vine
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just use all three staff-exclusive assignable post tags more often and require posters to read through the history of accepted/declined suggestions in posting guidelines before posting

wooden drift
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But not everything in it would make it

wooden drift
magic vine
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since it would be a violation of posting guidelines

wooden drift
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silent pendant
silent pendant
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even als had one in the past before

magic vine
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ive been asking for roadmaps and devlogs too

silent pendant
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so does popular aaa companies

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such as r6, and cod

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perhaps ac too

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if you look on twitter that is,

ripe arrow
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A road map would be nice so I could see what updates are planned

silent pendant
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doom the dark ages etc

wooden drift
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I asked about a roadmap thing earlier

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And was told “why would we ruin the surprise on things”

magic vine
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dude

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magic vine
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that same excuse

ripe arrow
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I get the joke now

magic vine
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again

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holy shit

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surpise! you get a shit odyssey!

silent pendant
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why would you ruin the surprise

ripe arrow
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Can’t wait for update 6.5 to be so random!

wooden drift
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Odyssey also just literally wasn’t properly playtested for more than a day

magic vine
ripe arrow
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I swear it seems like they log on and get off after 2 seconds

magic vine
wooden drift
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It’s not because we didn’t test

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It’s because we couldn’t

ripe arrow
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Oh great

magic vine
wooden drift
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We literally didn’t have a properly functional build of odyssey to playtest actual gamemode progression and feel until a little before the update

silent pendant
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wooden drift
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I barely had time to try and get the income carrying over thing removed/reworked

ripe arrow
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And they have been okay updates IMO IMO IMO

wooden drift
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I wanted it reworked in a very specific way for release odyssey

ripe arrow
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Db update was okay this update is not good imo

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I’m def biased about this update tho

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Since I hate the anime

wooden drift
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But when trying to fix something else it just reset every stage and they said “eh sure leave it”

novel pelican
silent pendant
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gg will be unique

ripe arrow
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I don’t want Naruto bro

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Eminence in shadow

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Has been done

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In every TD game

wooden drift
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The point is that GG is something new and fresh

ripe arrow
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EVERY

wooden drift
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And if it actually succeeds as an update

novel pelican
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Community would flip the fuck out if Dororo got added to the game

wooden drift
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Could put forth an idea that maybe people can afford to branch out with their updates

ripe arrow
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I feel like there should be polls

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On options for updates

magic vine
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DIZZY SMplead

ripe arrow
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But that’s just me

novel pelican
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devs gotta add Faust to the game or imma crash out

wooden drift
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Dizzy isn’t real I’m sorry

magic vine
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nah

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hope shall prevail

wooden drift
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He’s learned I’m baiting on it

ripe arrow
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I wouldn’t be surprised if we get blue lock before black clover/hxh atp

magic vine
wooden drift
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Man

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Fuck HxH, I want a FMA update

novel pelican
ripe arrow
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My only problem with gg

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Is I prefer other fighting games

wooden drift
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Which is valid

ripe arrow
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But if the update is done well whatever

magic vine
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av would be smited if they added tekken or sf

ripe arrow
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Akuma would be so tuff in av

magic vine
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smited by capcom

wooden drift
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For our next bp, we are adding Ken and Ryu

novel pelican
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Terry Bogard would go hard in this game

magic vine
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deadass??

magic vine
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😶‍🌫️

wooden drift
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no LOL

ripe arrow
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Okay

wooden drift
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I know what the bp units are

ripe arrow
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I swear

silent pendant
wooden drift
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as usual now they're gonna be a little nuts but

silent pendant
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and it's back to 799 robux

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due to not being special

novel pelican
magic vine
silent pendant
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he said they're changing the bp to 799

ripe arrow
silent pendant
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since they won't be special as dante, and vergil

wooden drift
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I mean, I don't know one of them

magic vine
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it just means they wont have osts or whatever

wooden drift
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But then again, I don't exactly watch a lot of anime

ripe arrow
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Well

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I mean if csm/tokyoghoul gets wasted on a bp

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Pmo

magic vine
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they definitely wont

novel pelican
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We getting Kanye West and Lebron for the next BP units

silent pendant
ripe arrow
magic vine
silent pendant
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have you seen their sales for Tokyo Ghoul?? poof massive downsales

ripe arrow
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So low sales = not a good update and should be bp

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Got it

magic vine
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if the show has a lot of characters to pull from

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why not make it an update

silent pendant
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hence why the next vanguard unit will be another unit that can provide a lot of hype to the game itself

wooden drift
magic vine
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ofc

novel pelican
magic vine
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tuff

wooden drift
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I'm actually not sure how much hype the next vanguard will bring tbh peepoNotes

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All I know is that I have a lot to test when the time comes for that

wooden drift
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I don't know if I'm allowed to say

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idk if they mentioned it on stage

magic vine
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🤔

novel pelican
ripe arrow
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They didn’t mention

magic vine
ripe arrow
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Ion want another double evo

magic vine
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they need to do 110% for summer given how long winter has gone on

wooden drift
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If it wasn't mentioned on stage, then I'm not going to say here either

ripe arrow
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With a stage that’s gonna be “hard”

magic vine
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so my bets are on banner vanguard

wooden drift
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The unit will definitely be unique for sure

ripe arrow
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Dude everyone and their brother has gogeta

magic vine
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not me

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i have diavolo

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but no gogeta

ripe arrow
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I have all 3 vanguards

magic vine
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aura

spark ibex
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no monarch💔
absolutely washed i cant believe a lvl 15 doesnt have monarch gogeta yet

wooden drift
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vanguard stitches takaroda evo

ripe arrow
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Banner has been here wayyyyy to long

wooden drift
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🔥

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I mean yeah

ripe arrow
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I also want a new farm

wooden drift
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But considering they have nothing to replace it with

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Better to keep it around at least

magic vine
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it would have to function differently from your standard wave based farm

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for that kind of unit to even matter

ripe arrow
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Well yeah

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Something new

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Other than taka and sprint

wooden drift
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Especially considering how good it is for a newer player to get a strong unit to work with to catch up with the rest of content

novel pelican
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Winter banner been here longer than Anime Reborn’s career

wooden drift
ripe arrow
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I think they should shadow nerf farms

novel pelican
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Shadow nerf Naruto 😭

magic vine
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bounty hunter style farm that periodically marks enemies that drop cash bounties on death as part of their kit

ripe arrow
magic vine
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no way dev log got rejected

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im going to crash out

slate girder
magic vine
slate girder
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I know

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I’m tryna see if this is edited or real

magic vine
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editing allat to make that elaborate of a lie is psychotic behavior

slate girder
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Happens all the time

magic vine
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nothing in the message history

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ez

light pond
light pond
harsh pelican
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holyyyy

light pond
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meanwhile me laughing since i never do half hourlies bc 1 rr aint worth it

silent pendant
light pond
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fisch is buns

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fell off

weak slate
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Still better than grow a garden surprisingly

umbral seal
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Av is dead get back to toilet tower defens✊

spiral igloo
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Still nothing is crazy work

spiral igloo
jaunty oasis
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ngl

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shit disapointing

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backlash well deserved

umbral seal
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This game is dead;(

warm belfry
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Whoa wait i didnt get auto modded

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I thought i would erm

fast shell
warm belfry
fast shell
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waiting for like 7k

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so they get their shit together

warm belfry
fast shell
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who u

warm belfry
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Do u fr think 40k ppl left only cuz they didnt tell us when they gonna limit rrs

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Its the content drought

fast shell
warm belfry
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Then why say that

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Eh

fast shell
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i mean its exactly what i said

warm belfry
ripe arrow
ripe arrow
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I was in Typesoul announcements gng

warm belfry
fast shell
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its not really just the rr part, its that they got no competition rn so they just make L decisions that they know will receive backlash but they know ppl will still keep playing their game

warm belfry
ripe arrow
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They want the game to be talked about ig

fast shell
warm belfry
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Idk why we gotta keep going back to the ‘theyre gettin too cocky’ thing everytime they focus on smt else

warm belfry
fast shell
warm belfry
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Or ass to whatever extent

fast shell
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its mainly about how they changed it but didnt even communicate abt it until everyone started talking abt it

ripe arrow
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Update 3-4.5

fast shell
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and then reduced it even more and said nothing

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😭

ripe arrow
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Best updates

fast shell
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real

warm belfry
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Ya but that has nthn to do with 40k ppl drop

fast shell
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(i started playing 4.5)

ripe arrow
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4 was so peak

fast shell
warm belfry
warm belfry
fast shell
warm belfry
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And theres a reason for that

fast shell
ripe arrow
fast shell
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🥀

warm belfry
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Which is that theyr working on pvp

ripe arrow
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Guilty gear is it

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Top 10 games oat

fast shell
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sure its a good game

ripe arrow
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I’m being sarcastic

fast shell
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oh

ripe arrow
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Tekken>

fast shell
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ive barely played guilty gear icl

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the units have cool vfx but this could literally have been fire force too 💔

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6 couldve been eminence

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5.5 couldve been guilty gear

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sigh

ripe arrow
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That would’ve been horrid

fast shell
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but i didnt mean this same raid and units as update 6

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more content ofc

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just meant they couldve taken more time for eminence

ripe arrow
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Well

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The anime

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Is ads

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Ass

fast shell
ripe arrow
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Idk why people like cid

fast shell
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hes cool

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yk whats not cool

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guilty gear

ripe arrow
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Better than eis icl

fast shell
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fast shell
ripe arrow
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Worst take ever

fast shell
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eis is like an isekai opm (ofc not as good) but its still fun to watch

ripe arrow
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And shits boring asl

warm belfry
fast shell
warm belfry
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Also the main focus has been stated to be pvp so uh

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They better cook

ripe arrow
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And I was entertained

fast shell
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watch it give fkass rewards

warm belfry
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Can we chill with the negative stuff

fast shell
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bleach is peak

fast shell
ripe arrow
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I mean I just finished Tokyo ghouls anime

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All 4 seasons

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Wasn’t bored

warm belfry
fast shell
warm belfry
fast shell
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hard cap

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tokyo ghoul s3 💔

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💩

warm belfry
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Apparently the manga is goated but not the anime

warm belfry
fast shell
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yeah

ripe arrow
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I watched before reading the manga

warm belfry
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I couldnt TELL what was going on

ripe arrow
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Then I started reading the manga

ripe arrow
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To me

warm belfry
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Just bad story writing

ripe arrow
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Manga peak so far

warm belfry
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Or rather, bad screenplay

warm belfry
ripe arrow
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But eis is not it

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The whole thing is just constant fan service in 1 minute long fights

fast shell
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did u have ur eyes closed while watching the anime

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srs question

ripe arrow
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No

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Actually

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Yes

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It put me to sleep from episode 1-14

fast shell
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theres like barely any fan service especially in the fights

ripe arrow
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Dawg barely any fan service

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You can’t be deadass

fast shell
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ppl dont really watch 14 episodes while sleeping

fast shell
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theres some in the first few episodes

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after that

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none basically

ripe arrow
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Dawg

fast shell
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dawg

ripe arrow
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First ep of season 2

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It’s just a goner isekai

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Isekai=shit 99.9% of the time

fast shell
# ripe arrow First ep of season 2

i swear mfs watch the entirety of issei hyoudou and his chronicles but god forbid 1 scene of fanservice in another anime and its entirely mid now

ripe arrow
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Literally never seen

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Who tf is issei bro

fast shell
ripe arrow
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My attention isn’t cooked cause I listened to all of i am music and more chaos without getting bored 😇

spiral igloo
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I doubt it's a 40k drop 💀

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10k is more realistic

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Though the recent drops were also caused by bot ban waves

warm belfry
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Lmao i might be completely wrong

fast shell
fast shell
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those same people are going to bot again

ripe arrow
warm belfry
spiral igloo
warm belfry
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They have been pretty serious about banning bots

fast shell
warm belfry
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At least on paper

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But there has to be some minimum trust

spiral igloo
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If it was afterwards I would've thought about it being an excuse but it was like 2 days prior to this als type behaviour

warm belfry
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Considering what happened just before upd1

ripe arrow
umbral seal
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fortnite or pubg?

spiral igloo
umbral seal
spiral igloo
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the only valid choice fr

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chat what do we think has a higher probability the devs acknowledging this or aa reviving

umbral seal
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aa x fortnite collab will happen before the devs acknowledging thisshock

mild quail
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holy shit

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bro just went at it

umbral seal
spiral igloo
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Still nothing 🥱

umbral seal
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they are ignoring this funny suggestions thingycyclopsblush

spiral igloo
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We on full als timing with this one

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Shadow nerfing something, lying to our community, and then not even talking about it after getting caught

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Sigh

wooden drift
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boo womp

umbral seal
# spiral igloo Sigh

too big fat ego in the dev team... aa2 ahhh downfall if they dont change back😔

spiral igloo
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Oh the sound effect

umbral seal
winter compass
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gang where have you gone

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grand fern
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simple they think their players are really stupid and wont figure out
or they js think we are trash and are not worth informing

ripe arrow
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Psyeph has alr said he hates the community

grand fern
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yeah im alr aware ik his a piece of shit tbh

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but idgaf abt him im here for the game not for that loser

harsh pelican
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anything but admitting a mistake 🔥

umbral seal
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KIckHImOutOFthEdEVtEaM!!

grand fern
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but idrc tbh
its js come every month play av play sth else

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this game only perform goods when they got competition

umbral seal
spiral igloo
winter compass
ripe arrow
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Server is full of shimmy clones

light pond
harsh pelican
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ragebait used to be believable

light pond
warm belfry
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Arent all the ones after that just jokes or smn

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Also considering that a huge chunk of the playerbase is just kids that keep crying about nonsense and spewing insults

ripe arrow
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Well he still said it

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I doubt he changed his way of thinking

warm belfry
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I find it at least somewhat understandable, although ofc its not great

warm belfry
ripe arrow
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Yeah

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Mt point doesn’t change

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He hates the community

silent pendant
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yall mad ungrateful

hollow loom
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I hate the community too

ripe arrow
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So do I

warm belfry
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How else should he refer to the kids?

near charm
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i mean why would him hating the community effect anything tho

warm belfry
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single them out and speak their names ?

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Ofc not
Ofc hes gonna say community

near charm
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hes still just gonna script for the game regardless

near charm
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pre sures hes not a planner or wtv

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and he doesint even watch anime

ripe arrow
spiral igloo
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what sort of loser does free pr for ANYONE

spiral igloo
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what do you think happens

silent pendant
spiral igloo
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In most contexts, "PR" stands for Public Relations. It's the practice of managing how information about an individual, organization, or company is disseminated to the public, particularly through media. Essentially, it's about controlling the narrative and building a positive image or reputation.

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👍

silent pendant
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and you think pyseph is harming the reputation of av based on his childish behavior actions..?

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or the dev team in general..?

spiral igloo
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obviously?

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they're making themselves look like a clown

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by either falling for ragebait, getting excessively heated over nothing, or flat out spitting bullshit

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how is this so hard to comprehend

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yes homie, anyone is harming the reputation of av when they go "touch grass" or some bullshit when asked about endgame content, or if they start banning people just for having non-formal related things in their name because they're mad atm

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😭

warm belfry
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Endgame content 💔

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Did pyseph himself say touch grass for that ?

spiral igloo
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pyseph has said some equally stupid shit

warm belfry
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No like did he actually

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Man

spiral igloo
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dont remember

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it was one of the devs atleast

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i believe

warm belfry
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We cant be making up random stuff

spiral igloo
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i made it say "anyone" for a reason

warm belfry
spiral igloo
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there

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that's smth they personally did

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👍

spiral igloo
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no it was stupid

warm belfry
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But i dont like the type of magno he made

spiral igloo
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very childish behaviour

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that accomplishes nothing

warm belfry
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That thing is basically botting

spiral igloo
warm belfry
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It literally is

spiral igloo
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scripting is bannable because it injects smth to the game's code

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ahk is just image detection

warm belfry
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Yeah but welp

spiral igloo
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if its not cheating

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then its not bannable

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only reason to ban non-formal was a personal grudge and hate bone

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which did nothing besides make everyone make fun of em

fast shell
spiral igloo
fast shell
warm belfry
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anything beyond that is upto personal preference of the devs

warm belfry
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Cuz yeah even tho i dont like it its impossible for it to be abolished
A new one can easily pop up

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I would honestly make my own if i could tho 😛 im js jealous

spiral igloo
spiral igloo
novel scroll
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@nimble void I agree with what was said, what about you?

warm belfry
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But it would definitely make life better for normal players

spiral igloo
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Nobody would magno a stage if it's semi enjoyable and there's a clear, feasible limit in sight

warm belfry
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Also what even is supposed to be enjoyable about playing an atd stage

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Clear feasible limit tho yeah

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We need pities for raid and legend stage drops 🙏