Revert hourly challenge limit

[untold solar]

lmao

i mean it DOES inhibit it specifically to stop mango-ers

[eager ridge]

?

[untold solar]

it literally is stated in the subannouncement that they did it to fuck over people who mango by limiting the amount of rrs they can get in a day

[eager ridge]

it doesn't necessarily stop mangos, however it does nerf them. Like people will still be able to mango half hourly challenges

[elfin lagoon]

[untold solar]

i know it doesnt specifically stop mangos but it was literally implemented to fuck people who do by nerfing them and nobody else
"so i feel i should clarify: we did this to make it fairer for players who dont mango, giving everyone a fair shot of playing the game. " in other words, FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU YOU NEED TO BE AT YOUR COMPUTER AT ALL TIMES ROTTING INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING MEANINGFUL WITH YOUR TIME

The argument that you can get 400 rrs weekly or whatever is fucking stupid because thats a very set amount of players and you would need to complete every single boss bounty and challenge so you would need to mango that anyways
Its basically forcing people to solely focus on the game which seems pretty fucking dumb considering theyre getting the money anyways

These devs just really like screwing their playerbase over bruh
I didnt even mango that shit but it was just completely uncalled for the nerf the people who are giving you the most money and actually putting their time into anyways, you cant mango and do other shit on your pc at the same time 😭 So literally all theyre doing is inhibiting their playerbase's ability to spend time outside and that pmo lowkey

[glacial geyser]

holy shit bro it's just a roblox game, it's not that deep 😭

[untold solar]

"its not that deep" shut the fuck up bro 💔 You see an argument that actually has reasoning behind it that you cant just say is cope and you start talking about some bullshit
That dude was right bottom 1 testers of all time

[eager ridge]

[untold solar]

btw these people who win the tourneys and boss leaderboards are the same people who mango the rerolls, the meta is just completely reliant on having good traits and by inhibiting the MAIN method that you can get rrs without spending money, theyre just hoping people spend robux to get it atp because getting them now is reliant on having good traits so you either have to be
Unbelievably lucky
OR
Drop a band on a roblox game

[glacial geyser]

It's at like, what, 16 clears a day right now? Just for the half hourlies? That's very generous for people to work with just grinding normally. 8 hour span of checking in on AV. If you're doing more than that, then I'm worried about you. Maybe 24 would've been fine, but it's pretty much the upper limit for what I'd expect

[merry rock]

Tl;dr its a classic dilemma of a game having two distinct player-bases because they refused to sacrifice one for the other and now are simultaneously disappointing both

[untold solar]

why are we acting like this is a positive thing
you should not have to spend 8 hours a day playing a goddamn towerdefense game to get good units

[glacial geyser]

Also traitless tournaments literally exist for a reason. Trying to compete in traited tournaments without the insane luck or just dropping your wallet is a silly thing to do.

[glacial geyser]

Because it is a positive thing? Now people don't feel like they need to mango or else just fall even further behind because "that's what everyone else is doing."
Surprise of the day, you can get good units without slaving away to the game. Revolutionary idea, I know.

[untold solar]

That essentially halves the amount of rrs you get btw Without traited tourneys and leaderboards you cannot get the rerolls that people say you can get (the whole 400 rrs a week thing)
And also that whole category of people is an incredibly low portion of the playerbase

[untold solar]

The entire point of them limiting it was to fuck over people who mango so that you actually have to BE AT your computer grinding for hours in order to get the rerolls
Once again all that does is inhibit people's ability to go outside, and force them to
either drop a band
or
be insanely lucky

[glacial geyser]

Crazy....

[eager ridge]

[merry rock]

???? Being at your computer doesnt change anything you wouldnt be able to continue doing the half hour rr challenge regardless

[glacial geyser]

People really wanna blow this whole change outta proportion. The only really bad thing about it was just the lack of saying anything or being transparent about it. Which I think is actually valid to be upset about.

[violet walrus]

Why are you acting like you can’t mango anymore, you can mango, just for less time😭

[eager ridge]

Duck -> some sorta Duck cat -> Just cats

[untold solar]

oh so theyre fucking over BOTH categories of the playerbase 😭 cool beans

[violet walrus]

Metamorphosis

[merry rock]

Its also not solving the issue it claims it does, mangoes are still 95% as oppressive as they were towards manual players. And plus now youre angering the mango community too

[glacial geyser]

God forbid the mango players not be miles ahead of everyone else and make people feel like they have to mango to catch up too. This change affects like, a very small portion of players that didn't mango. I guarantee you a majority of players weren't even hitting cap in the first place.

[untold solar]

Like i said
Idgaf that you cant mango that much anymore, i didnt even mango ts
Im just mad that theyre actively removing ftp options of getting rerolls
Which is some shady shit if i do say so myself

[violet walrus]

Half the people in gen 1 just acted like they mangoed to feel included

[daring monolith]

they could make cap of 24 challenges AND double rrs u get ...

[analog yew]

and why should challenges give 48rrs a day?

[untold solar]

yeah i dont mango challenges because i dont have uryu
but i also havent spend a fucking penny on buying rerolls im just real lucky

[violet walrus]

Because more reroll mean more dopamine

[strange oak]

So real, i asked one of the guys supporting them what is a mango and he couldnt even formulate 5 words to resume

[daring monolith]

and why not? monarch pity is 2.5k, what changed to nerf them?

[analog yew]

so what if pity is 2.5k

[glacial geyser]

I mean, yeah. It's hard to really combat them to not be as oppressive without really taking an entirely different approach to the game. But as for angering the mango community? Good.

Also this barely affects the f2p player's income of rerolls. a majority of them weren't hitting cap to being with. Mangoers are not on the same tier as normal f2p players, I'm sorry.

You're also not meant to hit pity, people need to stop planning and basing everything around it.

[safe otter]

I swear everyone acting like they go till pity every single monarch

[untold solar]

because it would make the game less of a choice between
Absurd grindfest
Dropping a band

[violet walrus]

I think you like using this to emphasize your words

[glacial geyser]

Is there something wrong with that?

[merry rock]

Yeah honestly i take that back piss off the mango community as much as possible so they leave the game and the devs are then allowed to shift the game direction

[daring monolith]

it doesnt have to awlays go to pity, once it goes its INSANLY bad, ur pretty much wasting 2.5k rrs

[analog yew]

why should challenges be giving more rrs than every other source? why should challenges be so abundent in rerolls? how is that balenced?

[safe otter]

You do realize people mango because of the game direction not vice versa

[violet walrus]

No I’m sorry if it came up that way i just thought it was funny

[untold solar]

and also i was just calling them out like the other dude
when they said "We dont actively attack mangoers! I swear!"

[paper field]

W Change on YOUR soul

[daring monolith]

buff other stuff then 😭 they just removed 80 weekly rrs this 5.5 update, and now chall nerf

[merry rock]

Except it would no longer be profitable to continue doing that if the mango players leave

[glacial geyser]

LMAO

@violet walrus I also just do a little bit of writing in my free time for hobby stuff, so I'm just used to sprinkling in emphasis sometimes

[safe otter]

If only there was a new gamemode that desperately needs more rewards

[untold solar]

im dying bro

[violet walrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1366476174108397642/1372556688351301632/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_7.gif

[opal steeple]

revert this bro this is the only reason i got monarch on katakuri 😭🙏

[glacial geyser]

you're right, rifts

[safe otter]

Honestly yea those too

[analog yew]

you do realize that rerolls have become increasingly more obtainable/abundant as more ways of obtainment are introduced

[untold solar]

Like actually why the fuck are we acting like removing FTP options is a good thing
Thats all this does
People who mango do it specifically so they dont have to spend money on the game
And the devs are limiting that
Its not because of balance they just want more money

[echo cliff]

barely harms f2p
harms macros
they are not the same

[true hearth]

Rip boss tournaments

[daring monolith]

and what they added? odysey only, thats less than removing tournament

[strange oak]

Now we are using all the arguments over and over, fell on a loophole

[analog yew]

people who spend money also macro

[glacial geyser]

Because options being only achievable by not even playing the game is not healthy, my guy

[opal steeple]

buff rift rewards, shard drops, make it every hour instead of whatever it is now, add new rift unit and cycle between the two and make the familiars in the shop cost less if ur not gonna buff drops

[glacial geyser]

Congrats, you can't mango your rerolls while you sleep anymore, or you can because you didn't do any towards cap earlier. That sounds like a pretty fair change to me towards the f2ps who can't mango.

[violet walrus]

I seriously don’t get the huge outrage for this

[untold solar]

mangos are ftp bro
You do not need to spend money on them
Therefore is free to play

[strange oak]

I highly doubt that ( we were with mfs wasting 30 dollars for some yesterday 😭 )

[safe otter]

Getting a job is free

[untold solar]

yeah but i dont like these devs so i will not be giving them money

[echo cliff]

the change harms macros
some people who macro happen to be f2p, but the change does not harm the vast majority of f2p
the majority of f2p are fully unaffected by this change because they werent farming challenges the entire day

[true hearth]

99 percent of players are still in school

[analog yew]

enemy index milestone
weekly challenge
being able to play/select specific hh challenges
shiny normalization
event shops
more perm shops
more achievements
worldline
etc

[glacial geyser]

It's just a very vocal minority of the playerbase

[opal steeple]

wdym f2p who isnt mangoing. all mangos are f2p ur not spending anything anyones whos got a pc can mango

[violet walrus]

Too much to read can u summarize

[safe otter]

So you would give them money indirectly via mangoing all night? Youre stupid

[untold solar]

acting like enemy index isnt a scheme
You can literally look in there and see how utterly bugged it is
The SBR one cant even be completed as far as i know

[echo cliff]

it can lol

[merry rock]

If youre consciously making a decision to buy something in this game that is not vip then something has gone terribly wrong

[glacial geyser]

That is just legitimately false. What about the people who want to actually use their PC to do things with it instead of staring at it playing roblox for hours? What about the people who have limited access to their PC for whatever reason? What about the people with worse PCs that just can't handle long sessions like that?

[true hearth]

The sbr one can be completed but enemy index is lowkey a scam anyways

[daring monolith]

all those things are ingame for decent ammount of time and most are limited, chall rrs were consitent, but other stuff got nerfed as well this update. personally from the start i thought it was joke u can chose rrs in chall, but once it happend why shadow nerf it at weekend and it was set to NOT 24 100% yday, now its fine and ppl arent even unhappy anymore

[untold solar]

The difference is money via players from roblox and money via microtransactions from ME
I will not be giving them MY money

[glacial geyser]

Cool. Good for you. Nobody said you had to. You can play the game perfectly fine without doing it.

[safe otter]

Does it really matter what you call it? Time, money youre still giving them your resources

[untold solar]

Real shit brother!!!

[violet walrus]

For ur first point there’s something called rdp, basically a second computer where you can mango in a diff tab

[safe otter]

So forcing people to get a second pc is somehow better than limiting challenges?

[untold solar]

So atp youre just saying "dont play the game" because you spend more time by not mangoing

[merry rock]

My point is theres no reason you would have considered buying anything in this game in the first place. The only people who actually buy the rr bundles and whatnot are the same people who buy every single xx90 card

[violet walrus]

rdp is widely known and easy to setup, not very hard

[opal steeple]

you can do all that no ones stopping u bro if ur pc cant handle a roblox game realistically u wont even be able to do the 12 hours worth of challenges ur given

[untold solar]

Did you read his message or did you just see "second computer"

[safe otter]

Answer the question mate

[glacial geyser]

I never said they were going to hit cap. But that's also why this change doesn't even affect them to begin with?

[strange oak]

That still doesnt answr his question, do u need a second device or not

[violet walrus]

Oh I didn’t understand his question, no it’s just a software you download where it acts as a second window tab

[merry rock]

Why force players to do something outside of the game for something inside the game??

[opal steeple]

ok so if it doesnt affect them why make the change for those who get affected ur literally arguing with ur own point

[untold solar]

No you do not bro 😭
"like a second computer"
Its the same software that people use to test viruses on youtube
Acts as a secondary system

[safe otter]

So the game should force players to download third party software

[static cape]

Real shii bbg

[violet walrus]

This has been a thing for ages, wdym forcing

[daring monolith]

no matter what if u dont farm 24/7 u will be behind it doesnt matter what devs do

[glacial geyser]

Because it's a completely unfair gap that is made by players who aren't even playing the game, making other players feel like they need to use the same tools or else fall behind because "everyone else is using it"

[untold solar]

Nobody is forcing you
If you wanna grind more then grind more nobody gives a fuck
If you wanna spend money then spend money nobody gives a fuck
I Dont wanna do either of those things so im gonna do what the hell i want with my computer
This is not a forced thing
You have other options

[safe otter]

Sure but the width of the gap does matter. And limiting the challenges definitely made it closer

[merry rock]

That is just untrue the devs have a choice here

[untold solar]

Also explain ts and tell me its not contradictory to this change

[thorny tinsel]

bro acting like his life depends on it ts frying me

[safe otter]

Did your mango suddenly stop working? No

[daring monolith]

thats diff thing 😭 stopping and limiting mango advantage is diff stuff

[echo cliff]

it doesnt stop macros
it just limits the rrs you can get from macroing

[merry rock]

Yes obviously thats an issue like i said:

“ its a classic dilemma of a game having two distinct player-bases because they refused to sacrifice one for the other and now are simultaneously disappointing both”

[static cape]

Real shii again bbg

[untold solar]

It inhibits their ability to work properly
And to answer your question, yes 😭
This broke literally every single challenge mango

[glacial geyser]

Disappointing both? The only one that's realistically disappointed here is the mango users.

[keen kestrel]

on my soul no human being played all 48 challenges everyday

[violet walrus]

You haven’t met me.

[true hearth]

I did

[merry rock]

It does directly contradict other things though like the poll they made about adding unique mechanics

@glacial geyser mangoes still feel just as mandatory as they were before

[desert pollen]

It’s 16 dude

[untold solar]

i really dgaf by the way
its just annoying how these drones are defending the devs when this change was obviously just so people spend more money on rrs

[opal steeple]

nobody is forcing the “other players” to not use the same softwares and tools most of the player base uses. theyre free tools and everyone can use them if ur pc cant handle it then it wont be able to handle the 12 h ur given anyways

[analog yew]

i actually played 500 challenges a day

[neat tinsel]

okay so we're going to ignore what a developer said

[violet walrus]

He said human being not ugly gremlin

[echo cliff]

how does it contradict
they just limited the advantage you can get from macroing

[safe otter]

This was so cool dude

[glacial geyser]

bought that "refresh all challenges for 49 robux" ahh pass

[untold solar]

real shit king 🔥

[merry rock]

How does this poll not directly contradict with that message pyseph sent

[violet walrus]

Yeah ik everyone tells me I’m scary

[neat tinsel]

these testers dont have brains pointing ts out to them is useless

[desert pollen]

@glacial geyser can u confirm it’s 16 instead of 24 now??
This guy refuses to believe the proof

[untold solar]

btw you get more rerolls by grinding the game
just so you know
(boss leaderboards, tourneys, etc) The only mangoable stuff is infinite, challenges, boss bounties
thats it

[glacial geyser]

afaik I've only seen one screenshot saying 16, no clue if that's actually where it's at right now. idk if it was said before or after the sub announcement post

[ancient current]

Bar4bar bro is just spitting fax

[analog yew]

Odyssey macro exists

[untold solar]

real shit king 🔥

[merry rock]

They are promising two things simultaneously

[neat tinsel]

so we are downgrading this cap from being good to be worse to eventually being substantially worse

[opal steeple]

deadass ?? 😭

[safe otter]

? It used to be 12

[glacial geyser]

Yeah, that one. Personally I'm fine with 16, I think that's a good, very achievable cap

[untold solar]

wait what 😭
I dont know what kind of prototype tech yall motherfuckers got but i aint never seen this shit bro

[neat tinsel]

so it went from being shit to being good to being shit
WITHOUT any announcement AGAIN btw

[safe otter]

If you did more than 16 a day you got bigger problem than the cap

[glacial geyser]

People literally make AI image recognition programs to play shit like Cid raid or whatever else, Odyssey wouldn't be that far off to do either

[untold solar]

So your point is to fuck over the FTP players who actually have a life and go outside? Because both categories are ftp but one is actually spending time outside and the other has to constantly be at their computer for eight hours

[desert pollen]

12 is a greater number than 16? go back to school pls

[daring monolith]

thats what you would think but they are so lazy its crazy 😠

[neat tinsel]

from 12 (shit v1) to 24 (good) to 16 (shit v2)
jesus fucking christ im not saying 16 is worse than 12 im saying its back to just not being worth it

[analog yew]

then dont play for 8h

lol

[untold solar]

Ive seen cid raid but it just doesnt work like 99% of the time

[safe otter]

Wouldnt odyssey just be a normal mango once you reach 2k intensity and just pick +0

[ancient current]

I really hope the devs or someone that can change this back sees all of this man, cause damn.. Just revert it atp. Insane amount of complaints and justly so imo

[strange oak]

No, next topic

[echo cliff]

or it just goes to 1k, cash out, and repeat
a odyssey macro isnt hard to do, just slightly more advanced than most of this game's macros

[wary badger]

No way mango players are still crying 😭

[opal steeple]

literally had no reason for this change to be made bro

[analog yew]

the only people complaining are the vocal minority of macro users

[untold solar]

No no their reason is so people spend the hundred dollars on rerolls instead of spending time with friends

[glacial geyser]

It's not justly so. It's a very small portion of the playerbase that is spending all the time they save in not playing the game to argue and complain instead.

[analog yew]

dont try to get so many rrs then, just play the game in moderation.

[ancient current]

Mb for going outside and not burning a hole in my wallet 🥀

[neat tinsel]

the larger % of the community doesn't like the change
SOME mobile players and SOME non mangoers like it
some people dgaf, and then there are 🧠 dead ppl who will mindlessly defend ts like its a positive change

[gloomy bobcat]

this only affected people that mango during the day 24/7 btw if u mango at night it wont affect u

[wary badger]

^^^

[untold solar]

So your argument here is "Ok go fuck yourself, just stop playing the game so much"
Your argument is essentially like the people who play fortnite and say "The sweats ruined the game..." Of course people are gonna grind and do better than you not everything accomodates for you

[opal steeple]

so how many rrs am i getting if i mango for one day on 2x

[glacial geyser]

I think you severely overestimate the ratio of the playerbase that doesn't like it. Like it's almost exclusively discord complaints about it. Looking at videos covering the changes and for the most part I see people very supportive of the change.

[ancient current]

Yeah this I can highly agree with, it's not that I dont get it. But their argument of preventing black market selling makes 0 sense since now instead of 48 a day those accounts get 18, but like, aint no way those accounts exceed actual players wanting to farm rrs

[daring monolith]

issue is there is 0 content in game, so its just chall + cid, also u can do cap on ammount of challs w/o nerfing rr gain

[merry rock]

Thats how it is with every update ngl

[neat tinsel]

even in these suggestions the ratio of W/L was like 134-96 dude

[wary badger]

Beat me on traitless wl buddy then talk about no content hehe

[untold solar]

Its not even about it affecting us
its the principle bro 😭
They are actively nerfing the most effective ftp method
if that doesnt scream "Money hungry piggies over here! Im a money hungry piggy!" then idk what does

[safe otter]

Its almost like most people didnt care to participate in a random poll

[opal steeple]

whats the cap of challenges u can do per day at right now

[daring monolith]

xd? i will np im just waiting for reset

[safe otter]

All that for it to be reset next season

[untold solar]

Grass is a form of foliage that grows commonly in soil throughout almost the entire world, with small roots and thousands of miniature leaves/blades.

[neat tinsel]

and you think mangoers care enough either??
mangoers dont do anything except mango the game and harm no one, so your point is? this entire situation is stupid, just nerfing f2p players all around because of a small, vocal minority, which is exactly what the testers and such want to make out mangoers to be (who dont care minus this change being more balanced)

[merry rock]

💀 bro wtf literally NO ONE NEITHER MANGO OR MANUAL PLAYERS CAN PLAY PAST THE LIMIT

YOU CANT PAY TO GET MORE RR CHALLENGES

wtf are you saying dawg

[wary badger]

Nono no reset, no reset PLEASE

[true hearth]

We all know that getting reset waiting for it

[untold solar]

Yes
And that is a ftp method of getting rerolls
And they are nerfing it
and you CAN pay for rerolls 😭 you stupid asf bro

[glacial geyser]

Crazy how on the first post that mentioned it, the star reacts for the limit were way ahead until the mango players started getting heated in there and we took notice of the thread and probably spread it around their servers to spam reacts on it to "downvote" the post's poll

[gloomy bobcat]

the only reason end game players play av rn is because of rr id guess i totally agree that nerfing half hourly challenges are stupid but still i didnt know what yall were yapping about so i just said that it doesnt affect anyone

[daring monolith]

they already reseted lb inf, mby they learnt smt (we all know they didnt), i for sure enjoyed my 100f in 1 sitting for sure

[opal steeple]

these are the type of people voting for W on the poll

[neat tinsel]

the mango community didnt care when it was said to be 24 because thats relatively f2p neutral, and now its down to 16, which reignites the debate even more because its just not fair to f2p players

[wary badger]

Damn 100f in 1 sitting is crazy, i just do a few per day

[merry rock]

Read my message you buffoon i said rr challenges

And literally paying for rr is 10x worse than getting it normally????

[daring monolith]

well they did wl reset like 5 days before update or smt what can do, all that to not get evo item

[safe otter]

Im finna crash out 5th cid still not a single birb

[untold solar]

Yes and my point here is that they are nerfing the methods of getting rerolls normally
These devs are money hungry fucks
Thats it end of story

[opal steeple]

its 16 challenges per day now??

[neat tinsel]

yes

[true hearth]

I’m ngl most players are just gonna cycle challenges and cid raid now

[merry rock]

Literally how????

If anything you are playing the game less

And you still get way more rr from f2p than any paid option i just dont understand

[wary badger]

Oh yeah i saw a bug report about it, hopefully getting fixed soon

[untold solar]

AND it was down to twelve at a time too
They are masking the whole thing of nerfing FTP methods as "Combatting mango-ers! Making the game fair!" and yall are falling right into it

[solar portal]

What da hail

[eager ridge]

idk

[neat tinsel]

24 was fine and dandy but they randomly cut it down again without any communication minus a singular message in some channel from pyseph

[opal steeple]

so 32 rrs daily on 2x 😭😭 holy nerf

[untold solar]

Ok let me spell this out in words you might understand

They are lowering the amount of challenges you can do in a day, was at 12 earlier, now at 16
This means less free rerolls in a day, mango user or not
By lowering the amount of free rerolls you can get in a day, this nerfs FTP methods of getting rerolls
Wow do you understand it now baby boy

[neat tinsel]

i mean my main pet peeve is the utter lack of communication jesus
fucking tell us shit man thats such a bad sign, thats some AA type shit right there, no word about shit until several hours after it happens

[wary badger]

16 is not perm yet, might get lower/higher

[static cape]

not that deep

[merry rock]

Oh wow as if people are spending $80 for 100 rerolls wow this game is so p2w!

Who tf besides nag and kage are spending money on rr

[untold solar]

Next thing you know they'll make a double rerolls gamepass for 5000 robux

[neat tinsel]

this should be POLLED by the COMMUNITY atp because no good consensus will ever come out until they do smth community based to solve the issue
although I believe most people probably though 1/2 was good, but 1/4 and 1/3 is a lil much. they also need to talk abt ts more, we shouldnt be left in the dark for so long

[safe otter]

Literally just making stuff up now

[wary badger]

No need for it, we know which side is clearly winning lmfao

[untold solar]

Strawman argument alert!!!
My point is that they are nerfing FTP methods, that is a bad sign brother

[wary sigil]

mods just close this suggestion atp

[daring monolith]

do we? would be interesting to see big poll ngl

[analog yew]

true

[neat tinsel]

full amount of rrs is too unfair but like i said 1/2 is a good sweet spot
not too f2p negative nor p2w positive, its just in the middle and thats perfect

[safe otter]

Why tho. Its not like anyone is harmed by people talking

[untold solar]

I was rocking with 24 too lowkey
But then they halved it again
Hell they might just straight up remove that shit and just not tell us bro

[merry rock]

“Yeah omg theyre forcing us f2p players to p2w” 😢

Like sybau dude you get rr from f2p faster than any paid method even with the change

[wary badger]

On suggestions there arent a lot of people who check thems so usually nerf mango suggestions get a 50% stars and 50% L reactions
But on a global poll on announcements/polls or smh nerf mango option is clearly winning ngl
8h of challenges per day is balanced

[untold solar]

Yes and they are nerfing the rate at which you get rrs from f2p, which is a bad sign
Like holy shit dude use context clues

[safe otter]

Theyre not nerfing f2p players theyre nerfing mango player
Which idiot made the cd 2 minutes

[neat tinsel]

okay dipshit what are mango players

[desert pollen]

r u trolling
why would u create a poll when u damn well know which side is going obvious win?

[daring monolith]

it was just if they should be doing unique mechanics. personally cid mechanic is terrible for non mango players

[echo cliff]

a different subset from f2p and p2w
almost all the p2w ppl i know macro😭

[true hearth]

People are never gonna vote for less rrs that poll is gonna be 10 to 1 no point

[wary badger]

I like the step the devs are taking, they might fumbled cid mech but the next one might be better

[opal steeple]

16 challenges cap is atrocious horrendous and awful bro make it 30 challenges a day i think its the best choice and most f2p no mango friendly

[untold solar]

mangoing is free to play dumbass
You are not required to spend money on it

[echo cliff]

just because any pc player can macro doesnt mean that its healthy for the game

[safe otter]

Every player can get a job and subsequently buy rrs. Should they be forced to do so?

[untold solar]

You know what isnt healthy for the game?
Nerfing ftp options
This is some BIG studios shit bro

[echo cliff]

oh no the ftp option of macroing is nerfed
what will people do now that they cant make a robot play the game for them

[spark hound]

Unhinged people who send death threats over a roblox game

[wary badger]

Cry here 😂

[opal steeple]

we’re talking about a game where im willing to bet more than 60% use mangoes in ,this game popularized mangoes in atd games bro we did have mangoes before but this game made them even more mainstream u cant be talking about mangoing isnt healthy for this game

[strange oak]

Ban all those mfs

[eager ridge]

that is actual wild work

[echo cliff]

im confused how this means that macroing is healthy for the game

[daring monolith]

more players = better?

[untold solar]

Its not even just mangoing
it was down to twelve earlier bro
its just nerfing challenges at this point

and also yeah the death threats is fucking insane

[spark hound]

I woke up to 48 pings, most were already deleted by the mods before I could check
These people are not normal

[true hearth]

If someone sees you here you might get a lot more pings

[eager ridge]

thats honestly just sad

[safe otter]

Is it? Is the garden game a good game?

[echo cliff]

thats good for premium payouts/player count
not really healthy for the game

[strange oak]

I saw a dude exposing and motivating people to harass you, crazy, worst of all is that he was a purple rank

[daring monolith]

also mango =/ bot, ppl that mango still play game and buy stuff so its good no?

[wary badger]

Yeah i hope those type of idiots are not adult bc saying that being over 18 is wild (A guy told me to reset irl just cuz his mango got nerfed 😭)

[untold solar]

what about it is unhealthy? Theyre still PLAYING the game
just avoiding the horrendous grind

[neat tinsel]

1: these arent death threats these are heavily inapporopriate messages with one including a violence threat (which should not be condone banned that loser ts not that serious)
2: @desert pollen i literally said not to include full amount of rerolls, only half, a third, and a fourth

[true hearth]

I don’t mind this change but the people that aren’t against it are usually mobile players which is a small percentage

[untold solar]

If your point is that you should have to struggle to do well then thats Pretty Fuckin Dumb!

[dreamy nimbus]

guess who can suggest now🤑🤑🤑

[safe otter]

You sure showed that strawman

[opal steeple]

never said its healthy but u saying mangoing isnt healthy for a game that is already full of mango players is just useless bro

[untold solar]

What about that is incorrect or out of proportion
Literally all mangoing does is removing the insane grind and lets you do other shit

[wary badger]

Defending them is wild

[echo cliff]

so we just give up?
just let the game run itself into the ground?

[strange oak]

Indeed

[untold solar]

I also dont even think that the mangoing nerf is the problem

its them just actually nerfing challenges

12 challenge limit is insane

[neat tinsel]

ts gotta be fucking ragebait theres no way
pointing out the difference between a death threat and a threat isint "defending", and I said that it literally deserves punishment

[untold solar]

and they did it without telling us

[neat tinsel]

theres no way reading is failing us this much

[merry rock]

Mango players calling mango “f2p” when you literally are required to have a spare computer as well as constant power source and internet connection

[true hearth]

Good ragebait

[paper sand]

lowkey this challenge limit literally has to be bugged for me, it’s already been 24 hours and i’m still not getting rrs 🥀

[opal steeple]

😭😭 its been like this bro people have been using mangoes since update 0.5 and will continue to do so nothings gonna stop mangoes from being made

[safe otter]

Im guessing those were dms in which case I dont think punishment is needed

[neat tinsel]

doesnt matter imo

they should still be banned

thats just plain inappropriate

and one is inciting violence

[safe otter]

Freedom of speech

[eager ridge]

they should get banned or face some punishment

[neat tinsel]

calling them death threats is a lil bit of a stretch tho

inappropriate? yes

death threats? not exactly

[strange oak]

Theres one until u act dumb

[opal steeple]

dms about events that happened in this server about THIS game

[untold solar]

This has to be ragebait
That is the case for EVERY SINGLE ONLINE VIDEO GAME

EVERY SINGLE ONE

EVEN IF YOURE NOT MANGOING

[safe otter]

So if I say something about this server irl should I be punished for it in this server?

[opal steeple]

yea well dms arent irl are they

[dreamy nimbus]

the hell is mango🥀

[neat tinsel]

you dont need a spare computer

and essentially every GAME requires power

and every ONLINE game requires internet

[untold solar]

word for m*cro because this server censored it for some reason

[neat tinsel]

this is acc ragebait

XP farming..

[echo cliff]

wydm just say macro

[strange oak]

Bypassing shit

[glacial geyser]

Some of them are threats of harm. I'm willing to bet somone has made a death threat or two over it. Either way, it's actually pathetic to be making either of those over a roblox game.

And f2p players are not on the same level as mango users. If anything, you would probably differentiate f2p between "casual/grinders/mangoers"

[dreamy nimbus]

lwk can you suggest aokiji

[opal steeple]

i said informa and got timed out 😭

[echo cliff]

i have faith claytaki will give us a good onepiece update when the time comes

[dreamy nimbus]

you literally can’t say anime vangaurds in the AA swrver

[echo cliff]

i cant even say that one ):

[merry rock]

You think people can just have something running 24-7 the entire month????

And yes you do need a spare computer because some of us actually have j*bs and academic obligations and arent unemployed

[neat tinsel]

loll

[dreamy nimbus]

try it

[neat tinsel]

it doesnt need to be 24/7

[dreamy nimbus]

their link is invalid too

[neat tinsel]

thats a situational assumption

[wary badger]

Might dont be death threats but still hate/violence treats which arent really far away, just warn/ban those guys we dont need them here

And how tf you can talk that fast bro server booster is op

[neat tinsel]

idk i dont have cd

shruge

[echo cliff]

there isnt a cd here😭

[wary badger]

Oh nice

[neat tinsel]

also yeah i repeat myself for the third time they deserve to be punished

no world where they dont

[opal steeple]

hes on some voldemort type shit 😭

[untold solar]

quite convenient ngl

[wary badger]

They removed it recently i swear

[neat tinsel]

thats some stupid ass shit

[daring monolith]

they did

[merry rock]

If you arent running a mango 24/7 then why does the limit even matter??? Youre defeating your own argument

[echo cliff]

yea probably
it randomly changes
idk whos doing it

[neat tinsel]

he pissed the devs off by farming moneyt

[untold solar]

Nobody even gives a fuck about the mango nerf bro

[neat tinsel]

okay

let me reiterate myself

[wary badger]

Pyseph stalking us

[opal steeple]

yea it was a min cd like 20 mins ago

[neat tinsel]

leaving it 24/7 4-5 weeks for an entire month

most people dont do that

and cant do that

[untold solar]

Theyre nerfing challenges as a whole dawg
And by doing that its just gonna set the precedent that they can nerf other ftp options
And we all know how that turns out

[opal steeple]

no ones doing this 😭

[neat tinsel]

because they have other shit to do

ik 20+ ppl that mango

and im the only one whose psychotic enough to go for 24/7 4-5 weeks (usually doing portals only)

[visual rock]

mango isnt even something bad bruh

[neat tinsel]

ur presenting an awfulyl unrealistic situatation

[paper sand]

Pyseph already straight up replied to people and said they’re just coping due to calling it f2p nerf so oh well

[neat tinsel]

stretching boundaries and borders to make yourself right

[paper sand]

They don’t care 💔

[neat tinsel]

it IS a f2p nerf

lol

[opal steeple]

right now the cap is at 8 hours of mango which is honestly awful thats why im talking about reverting this but honestly when it was 24 it was just fine bro

[paper sand]

yeah it is

[neat tinsel]

no matter how u really look at it

[safe otter]

Pyseph is right

[opal steeple]

literally no reason to nerf it more

[paper sand]

but apparently we’re just coping ✌️

[untold solar]

See and now they try to cover it up as a mango nerf
Its just gonna keep getting worse

[neat tinsel]

its a f2p nerf for normal mangoers, and f2p players

[untold solar]

These devs are money hungry pig piggy fatsos bro

[neat tinsel]

it only benefits the p2w mangoers and the p2w players

[merry rock]

And its an awfully unrealistic situation to say that but also simultaneously claim that someone would mango for more than 12 hrs a day

[opal steeple]

u not getting tester gng 😭

[neat tinsel]

im sorry lord pyseph, that I dont have 2k to throw towards the game everytime I want a monarch

[opal steeple]

i do

[untold solar]

this is the devs

[neat tinsel]

Im sorry I mango im sorry!! forgive me!!

[untold solar]

This is them

[safe otter]

By that logic its also a nerf for p2w players. They also get less rrs with this. Do you realize how dumb you are

[neat tinsel]

12 hours a day isint as bad as you think it is

thats barely 8 horus of sleep

and then school

or work

mangos are so useful because of how long you can do them for

[opal steeple]

exactly

[neat tinsel]

most p2w players wont gaf

they can just

p2w

shocking

[opal steeple]

sleep and school is around 17 hours

[neat tinsel]

😭

[untold solar]

usually people mango overnight and at school and thats more than 12 hours

[paper sand]

it’s not even 12 a day really, it’s even less because the 24 hour challenge doesn’t even end till when you finish your last challenge 🔥

[safe otter]

Normal f2p players dont care either you know

[neat tinsel]

that doesnt mean it isint a negative

[paper sand]

You finish your last challenge at a later time and your entire day is essentially gutted due to how challenge timers are rn ngl

[neat tinsel]

just because they dont care doesnt mean it still isint a negative

what

[safe otter]

Lowering the ceiling between mango and non mango is somehow bad?

[untold solar]

This change doesnt do that much on its own
But with them setting the precedent that they can nerf f2p options whenever they want
AND THEN CLAIM THAT ITS NOT A F2P NERF
Its just gonna result in them doing it more and more

[neat tinsel]

lowering the amount of f2p rerolls overall by drastic ammounts

[paper sand]

Bro only hears lower the ceiling between mango and non mango and not raise the ceiling for everyone with a wallet 💀💀💀

[neat tinsel]

i repeat my thoughts on this

[safe otter]

Are you demented you brought up p2w players not caring first I just follow suit

[neat tinsel]

24/48 is good

16/32 and 12/24 is not

[untold solar]

Plus these devs are egotistical too
They just lock channels whenever someone has an opposing thought to what they wanna do

[safe otter]

There is no ceiling for p2w players

[neat tinsel]

p2w players wont care because they can just spend their money
f2p players wont care because atp the situation is drawn out

[paper sand]

Orrrr they just delete the reacts and posts and insult the community ✅

[untold solar]

That too

[neat tinsel]

this is only a positive lit for the p2ws

[untold solar]

i remember when they said the AV community was incapable of media literacy

[safe otter]

No, f2p players dont care because they didnt reach the cap anyway

[untold solar]

because we didnt like an update

[neat tinsel]

not even a positive for the developers

[paper sand]

There was most certainly a lower ceiling before this garbage shadow nerf lmao

[opal steeple]

this is just on 2x too and no one said anything but when they lowered it thats when most people started complaining

[neat tinsel]

now they lose premium payout farm

[safe otter]

Im literally telling you there isnt a ceiling for p2w

Never was never will be

[neat tinsel]

see im fine and dandy with 24/48

[opal steeple]

literally

[neat tinsel]

because it means rerolls are halved and not a fourth or third

[merry rock]

You dont bring your laptop to school?

[neat tinsel]

said this like thrice atp

[untold solar]

Who the hell plays roblox on their school given laptop

Bro are you 50 years old

[neat tinsel]

does ur school not provide u with a laptop

[merry rock]

No

[neat tinsel]

damn that must suck

[eager ridge]

no

mabye im to unc

[neat tinsel]

we get fuckin chromebooks atleast

😭

[untold solar]

unc

[neat tinsel]

those shits r so ass i js bought a fucking macbook instead

[eager ridge]

back in my day you had to bring ur own laptop or fight for the rights to use a school laptop

cuz there was like only 6 per class

[untold solar]

not for long 😈
i made a device called the C-CAD (covert chromebook annihilation device)
You just plug it in and it short circuits that shit

[neat tinsel]

gonna buy a new one this summer smh

[neat tinsel]

the F students

[safe otter]

2024 was a crazy year yall you guys werent even born then

[neat tinsel]

the F students are the inventors

[untold solar]

holy unc bro was born in 2023

[untold solar]

Theyre so fucking creative

[neat tinsel]

[safe otter]

I know what youre referring to bro thats not creative

[neat tinsel]

woweezowie

worth it tho..

[opal steeple]

get the grey one trust

[neat tinsel]

i like blue doe

[opal steeple]

honestly both fire

[neat tinsel]

riel

[safe otter]

Get a pc at that point

Whats the point of a soybook

[neat tinsel]

i have a pc

[opal steeple]

what if he has one

[untold solar]

You should see the shit that ive made
I made a C-CAD (Plug it in and it cycles the power from your chromebook back into it, short circuits)
SU-CAD (Plug it in and it runs a program that FUCKS your chromebook, essentially kill switch)
D-CAD (Plug it in and it just fucking explodes)

[neat tinsel]

its js for school

[untold solar]

I am an inventor

[opal steeple]

427

rrs

[paper sand]

Also if you do 6 challenges at 8 pm today, and then do the other 6 challenges tomorrow before 8 pm you will be locked out to essentially missing like 2-3 days per week of challenges?

[opal steeple]

weekly

[neat tinsel]

my pc is exclusively for games, mangoing, and editing videosd

and sometimes homework if im too lazy to put my laptop to charge

[opal steeple]

my pc is exclusively for games ONLY

mangoing counts too

[neat tinsel]

shiny cid plz

[merry rock]

So you guys do have two computers

[opal steeple]

no 😭😭

[neat tinsel]

i think im an odd case

[untold solar]

School appointed chromebook and a pc that we own

[neat tinsel]

where i have money because im employed

[opal steeple]

a pc and a mac is NOT 2 computers

[neat tinsel]

and i love spending money

[untold solar]

Ts has like 600 kb of ram

[opal steeple]

literally mac cant run shit

[safe otter]

Buy rrs

[neat tinsel]

planning on it

[untold solar]

It crashes when you run certain desmos equations bro

[neat tinsel]

after school ends

[untold solar]

You cannot mango for shit on that dwag

[opal steeple]

dont go down that path gng

[safe otter]

Lmao thats so sad

[merry rock]

Buy a watch or sum idk

[neat tinsel]

because I need tofocus on my school

[neat tinsel]

im suffering from success

[neat tinsel]

i adore this game

[opal steeple]

we all do

[safe otter]

Invest in some shitcoin

[merry rock]

Get some emporio armani

[neat tinsel]

deadass this game is a contributing factor to me being alive mane

[lusty marsh]

yap final boss

[wary badger]

Nooooo pyseph got you

[neat tinsel]

if it werent for AV i wouldnt have met my friends if i hadnt met my friends i would have ended up doing some drastic shit

av got a place in my heart forever and always

[opal steeple]

im not spending 100 bucks on 100 rrs tho

[neat tinsel]

❤️‍🩹

[safe otter]

This vanguardia shit is serious business

[neat tinsel]

its like 80 thats not that bad

ikiab50

[echo cliff]

made friends through av
unheard of

[neat tinsel]

and with bundles its mad cheap

[neat tinsel]

update 0

[opal steeple]

also trye

[neat tinsel]

❤️‍🩹

[wary badger]

Bro is p2w

[neat tinsel]

dude upd 0 was prime time

[uncut crag]

lol

[merry rock]

“Not that bad” 💀 💀 💀

[neat tinsel]

not rn

[untold solar]

Next time you go to school i want you to do this
Take an eraser, preferably the block kind
Take 2 paper clips, put them in a L shape
Stick each one into the sides of eraser
Lay 5 sticks of mechanical pencil lead on the paper clips
Shove it in an outlet

[untold solar]

big boom

[lusty marsh]

it wasnt

[uncut crag]

Where bro at ?

[opal steeple]

but 100 ur guaranteed shit and when u now u can just spend more ur gonna be willing to until u reach pity

[untold solar]

Really big boo

m

[neat tinsel]

HELL YEAH

[safe otter]

What even was there to do in upd 0

[upper cradle]

nah u gotta spend money for rerolls so u can get rerolls faster?
why do u thin mvps are a thing bro

[neat tinsel]

HELLLLLL YEAH

IM DOIN THAT

[untold solar]

it makes a big ass explosion

[analog yew]

igris grind

[neat tinsel]

it was imo

[opal steeple]

what are u saying bro 😭

[neat tinsel]

was still fresh off the press

and I was chillin having funm

I still remember getting monarch SJW

in the middle of history

[untold solar]

another method is wrapping your computer charger in gum wrappers and plugging it in
Generates the sun

[neat tinsel]

i think I broke something when I bought BP and used every last reroll on igris just to not get shit

😭

it was so fun

[neat tinsel]

wut

[merry rock]

F students discovering arc flash

[opal steeple]

i got monarch shiny igris in the middle of my economics class 😭

it was so peak

but igris is buns

[neat tinsel]

PEAK

[opal steeple]

so theres no point

[neat tinsel]

dude I spent SO long

chasing shiny igris

[opal steeple]

buff igris ❤️

[neat tinsel]

never got him

[wary badger]

Be happy ngl, u would get pissed off after seeing only sjw trait counts on evo

[neat tinsel]

shiny gogeta when

[untold solar]

hes saying you need good traits to win tourneys and MVP
Therefore you need to spend money to get traits F2P efficiently

[neat tinsel]

😭😭

I woulda

[opal steeple]

deadass got him on my 3rd run of boss rush when it came out

[scenic dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[neat tinsel]

my newgen friend

[wary badger]

Feel sad for those monarch igris owners, still good for dungeon ig

[neat tinsel]

got shiny in ONE over night

ts pmo

[untold solar]

This suggestion got so positive so fast now that the other drones left

[neat tinsel]

lets js keep it this way

[paper sand]

i did 8 challenges yesterday, 4 today and now i’m locked out for another 24 hours is this supposed to be intended

[neat tinsel]

i finally got my monarch gojo

[safe otter]

What

[echo cliff]

vsjw 3rd evo that requires mon igris sacrafice
trust🙏

[neat tinsel]

although

kinda only took

like

87~ rerolls

over all

[merry rock]

More like people can have different opinions but still have similar experiences

[untold solar]

My lucky ass got monarch igris on the 20th reroll

[neat tinsel]

gojo eza when

[safe otter]

No this time its an igris evo which needs the vsjw as sacrifice

[untold solar]

Then proceeded to roll on gojo when he came out and got monarch on the 3rd

[wary badger]

Emo vsjw evo 🔥

[echo cliff]

you are locked out until the time that you did the first challenge yesterday
also idk how the changes affected people who had already done challenges
i think they system could use some refinement but we shall see what happens

[opal steeple]

not after i got 2 choys and bought out the dungeon shop and got 2 vsjws

[neat tinsel]

hes so useful

[opal steeple]

now igris has no meaning

[safe otter]

Wow old units get powercrept

What a concept

[dapper ermine]

theres a limit now 💀

[paper sand]

i think it would be better if the daily limit just got reset every day at 8 pm EST like daily quest 💔

[untold solar]

lowkey they shouldve made him unobtainable

[dapper ermine]

whats the point in making it timed if theres a limit

[neat tinsel]

i want them to just make challenges 24 daily again and everything good on my part i really dc past that

[untold solar]

So now

[wary badger]

I just used his godly stats on better units heh

[untold solar]

it would be like an "OG" status

You feel

[neat tinsel]

i mean eh 32 daily on 2x aint that bad

[echo cliff]

yea same
hopefully the change that makes challenges global cd again also makes the limit global cd

[neat tinsel]

my lucks shit tho so its gon take a while

💔

[merry rock]

Except igris kit was ass so it got powercrept even harder than it should have

[echo cliff]

and 2x is 4 days of the week

[opal steeple]

i was so happy when i saw sjw getting a second evo i thought igris was finally gonna be useful

[safe otter]

Its all old units which literally just have +dmg as their passives

[opal steeple]

yea im not sacrificing my monarch shiny igris 💔

[untold solar]

damn near 100k for 14k dps on monarch 💔

[opal steeple]

he got nerfed

[neat tinsel]

monarch ichigo carries negl

[opal steeple]

he was actually decent

[wary badger]

I would love to say programming global events on roblox isnt hard but anime saga banners are crazy

[echo cliff]

their banners got messed up?

[merry rock]

For requiring another unit to max out his dps? Nah

[wary badger]

Haha

[safe otter]

How do you spend money and mango and still have a worse account than me

[neat tinsel]

i dont spend money

[wary badger]

Different banners on public and private servers

[opal steeple]

pre nerf

[neat tinsel]

I mango portals

likme

TOO many portals

[echo cliff]

the headless models broke everything💔

[neat tinsel]

i get 1.5 million presents per day

[wary badger]

Also Okarun was spawning 24/7 lmao

[wary badger]

fr

[neat tinsel]

i will not stop

[merry rock]

How is that even possible

[neat tinsel]

until i have enough gogetas

to get diavolo

[neat tinsel]

3 accounts

I can hear

my CPU

[lost ginkgo]

we should replace all challenges with green essence stone challenges

[dapper ermine]

ts just sad

[neat tinsel]

begging for mercy...

[lost ginkgo]

get rid of rr challenges

[scenic dirge]

They had a dupe for everything in the game on release

[safe otter]

Gogeta already worthless tbh

[wary badger]

Dawg this game aint that deep

[lost ginkgo]

weekly? 50 green essence stones

[untold solar]

bro atp just farm bitcoin

[neat tinsel]

wont stop till i get that diavolo

[scenic dirge]

Rr gems keys and whatnot

[untold solar]

It would be more worth it

[neat tinsel]

YALL

[merry rock]

Is that not bannable

[neat tinsel]

DONT

GET IT

I NEED DIAVOLO

[scenic dirge]

Whats ur offer lil boi

[neat tinsel]

HES THE ONE VANGUARD IM MISSING

[echo cliff]

Yea i got sent the inf gems/gold from doing inf with onepiece units😭

[dapper ermine]

you wont be able to, gogeta will have 0 trade value

[untold solar]

its not
botting is bannable but he just uses alts

[neat tinsel]

10-15 gogetas and like 250-300 rerolls

[lost ginkgo]

trading $100 bundle for diavolo

[neat tinsel]

maybe more

dek

[opal steeple]

yea no

[neat tinsel]

i can do plain rerolls/bundles and units

[runic breach]

i got 4 diavolos lmk

[neat tinsel]

idc

[scenic dirge]

Im taking 1000 rr, shiny subaru, and like 5 brolys for it

[opal steeple]

gogeta isnt worth shit 😭

[merry rock]

How is using alt accounts different from botting

[neat tinsel]

shiny subaru is elite knowledge

[opal steeple]

u get me

[neat tinsel]

i want that shit so bad

[safe otter]

I will give you a bardock crochacchio

[untold solar]

because youre actually playing on those alts ? botting is just player farming

[neat tinsel]

but id deadass do like 1-1.5k rerolls for diavolo depending on stats

[scenic dirge]

I didnt even play the game but i was told everything

[wary badger]

He is not gonna worth that much unless he gets an insane buff

[neat tinsel]

yeah all of my alts are level 50+

[wary badger]

He is just good for inf lb thats it

[opal steeple]

i have 2 diavlos and i could swear i would have gotten another if it wasnt for sudden maintenance

[scenic dirge]

One of my friends has shiny monarch subaru and he is like the biggest rezero fan ever

[neat tinsel]

I do other stuff

on them too

[safe otter]

Higher level than the devs

[lost ginkgo]

doesn't he do some pretty okay damage with monarch

[opal steeple]

i had 800k wisps saved up

[echo cliff]

The game is ... something
I love not being able to pull a mythic until lvl 10 and not being able to evo them until lvl 25😭

[neat tinsel]

pzl

plz

[runic breach]

trading 4 diavolos in bulkj for a grand total of 10k rrs lmk ✌️

[neat tinsel]

ill do anything

[safe otter]

Its not okay when you could just use vergil

[neat tinsel]

well my friend has diavolo idk if shes gonna play anymore

so

ill see..

[lost ginkgo]

fair

[scenic dirge]

Dont you Love having to play for hours just to realize you cant even progress

[neat tinsel]

eh

gogeta monarch does like

300k

[echo cliff]

I love how every map has 5 acts of the exact same thing with a different boss😭

[opal steeple]

add a shiny subaru and uh a shiny rengoku

[neat tinsel]

with the clone too

100% uptime on that clone

[opal steeple]

that game is so ass bro

no block

[neat tinsel]

and the occasional 20% spa buff

[opal steeple]

u gotta dodge everything

some attack are undodgeable

[safe otter]

Gogeta fell off already. Vergil, sjw, yhwach, john smith are better

[neat tinsel]

he needs stun and damage decrease immunity

[opal steeple]

testers werent doing their jobs

[echo cliff]

That and arx are a mystery to me
Idk why ppl play them

[wary badger]

Yeah but not really worth using him over other units, 5k placement is crazy

[neat tinsel]

john smith is only better conditionally

[scenic dirge]

I saw nags video on it and the ai looks so trash

[wary badger]

His upgrade cost is wild also

[neat tinsel]

yhwach is also conditionally

[runic breach]

mf talking about some john smith better than gogeta

[neat tinsel]

SJW is only better when using nukes

[opal steeple]

arx is deadass a afk farming sim

[scenic dirge]

Ccs were telling them to not release it

[safe otter]

John smith has the highest dps ceiling

[merry rock]

What are we talking about

[safe otter]

Other than sjw ig

[neat tinsel]

Vergil is just substantially worse

[lost ginkgo]

fair

[neat tinsel]

although they're both good

[opal steeple]

honestly shouldve listened the game is ass

[scenic dirge]

Anime saga

[safe otter]

Vergil literally does like 3x gogetas damage

[neat tinsel]

AS and ARX

are brain numbing

[lost ginkgo]

john smith is infinite

is it not

[scenic dirge]

Arx farming premium pay outs

[echo cliff]

They keep scaling the drops to macros and it just makes the game awful
Not to mention their "tournament" is just inf lb

[opal steeple]

i got 2 subarus for some reason idk why

instead of one

[safe otter]

Yea if you can stall the enemy infinitely, which you cant

[opal steeple]

from portal

[runic breach]

yeah if you spend 4 millenia swapping that doesnt make him good 💀

[neat tinsel]

atleast they know

[lost ginkgo]

fair

[neat tinsel]

what their gamebase is

lol

[scenic dirge]

1% chance every 30 minutes

[lost ginkgo]

john smith not cid

[neat tinsel]

been saying that shit is ass

ngl

[opal steeple]

and its global not even brackets 😭

[wary badger]

I mean the game had autoplay since day 1

[echo cliff]

Even worse
It's a 15% drop every 30 minutes that is then a 1% drop😭

[safe otter]

Av devs need to take notes

[echo cliff]

Yea its just inf lb
It's not a tournament
And only top 3 get rewards😭

[safe otter]

Double rng

[scenic dirge]

500 gems for top 1 is crazy

[echo cliff]

The unit is mean

[opal steeple]

portal unit is 0.1 for a portal thats 0.5 😭😭 and on raids its 5% every 15 mins for a tier 3 portal

[lost ginkgo]

we should buff monarch

[queen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/m3n-i-maanbaz-gif-21247318

[lost ginkgo]

make a 0.01% trait called

fucking

monarch 2

[lost ginkgo]

+900% damage

[neat tinsel]

he outdamages on a full freeze/stun team

where hes hitting that follow up

[safe otter]

Make monarch but you still have 3 placement

[neat tinsel]

all the time

[echo cliff]

Does nightmare change the odds of the portal?
I know nightmare changes rates but it just doesn't say

[lost ginkgo]

80% discount

[neat tinsel]

even in dt

the DPS overall compared to gogeta and his clone

[safe otter]

Vergil in dt doed 3x damage

[neat tinsel]

isitn that much

[echo cliff]

Why is your gogeta dps so low

[opal steeple]

i think it does not 100% sure tho

[neat tinsel]

DT is right there btw

[neat tinsel]

its not mines

[echo cliff]

Mine gets to 50k 😭

[safe otter]

The gogeta doesnt have the buff from smows

Slows

[echo cliff]

100k with clone

[neat tinsel]

oh yeah

its the slow buffs

lmao

forgot about that

[opal steeple]

bro i rolled monarch on katakuri whilst going for eth

[scenic dirge]

They deaduzz had to nerf the rr just when i am about to hit pity

[runic breach]

no passive no familiar prob

[neat tinsel]

but yeah gogeta is better

shrug

vergil is still good

[opal steeple]

who u rolling on

[scenic dirge]

@devout stone i saw u type stop lurking 😡

[neat tinsel]

hes incredibly situational

[scenic dirge]

Yhwach

[safe otter]

Gogeta misses 10% of his attacks

[devout stone]

[neat tinsel]

this is js cope

he misses

[opal steeple]

isnt eth ideally better on him

[safe otter]

Rolling on a 4.0 unit

[neat tinsel]

and does slow

[neat tinsel]

ethereal is better for lb while monarch is better for short form/dps build

hes kinda becoming overrated tho

[runic breach]

eth is ideal on NOTHING besides supports or inf

[safe otter]

Yhwach is only used in 15 stage content where monarch is better

[wary badger]

Bro wants to get that weekly #1 on traits tournaments

[scenic dirge]

I got eth in 1 rr im rolling on a 2nd one

[scenic dirge]

Best unit in the game for anything

[safe otter]

Nice does the same slow katakuri already did

[neat tinsel]

you get a two in one

super high dps

and a slower occasionally

[safe otter]

Yea but you should have gotten monarch a while ago

[scenic dirge]

My traits are way too ass to run infs atm

[opal steeple]

same here i got eth in 7 rr im going for a shiny to hit monarch on tho

[devout stone]

[neat tinsel]

i need to get

deadeye vsjw

[safe otter]

You only need like 2 monarchs in inf

[neat tinsel]

i have ethereal and monarch

💔

r we fr

[opal steeple]

i got monarchs on all my good support units 😭😭 esdeath and kata

[neat tinsel]

curse this game...

[scenic dirge]

Lemin 30 hours diamonds incident

[devout stone]

Yo…

Don’t be leaking my first time playing minecraft

[scenic dirge]

[neat tinsel]

can i plz get shiny cid so that i can go back to doing portals

[wary badger]

Whats the dps meta rn, yhwatch and vergil?

[neat tinsel]

or gemsd

[opal steeple]

why do u want shiny cid

[neat tinsel]

idk

i just want him

[opal steeple]

yhwach has one of the best shinies in the game

[neat tinsel]

i dont even like teis i just want his shiny

[opal steeple]

my goat

[scenic dirge]

Monarch dante with a really really good birb is the best dps in the game, or todo + aizen

[opal steeple]

yhwach

please shiny yhwach

[neat tinsel]

undebatable

[safe otter]

So we just lying now

[opal steeple]

so many units i wanna roll on im lost

im rolling on gogeta rn im at 600 rrs

[neat tinsel]

ts pmo

ethereal... 💔

[wary badger]

Pretty sure deadeye slams monarch/eth with these shitty ass birds

[scenic dirge]

Using Todo to move around aizen is the highest dps in the game lmao

[opal steeple]

550 rrs vergil and i got eth

[wary badger]

Only ur units tho

[opal steeple]

should i roll

[neat tinsel]

na

[safe otter]

Yea sure if you spend half your money buying todo

[neat tinsel]

ethereal is good on vergil

[scenic dirge]

Rs

[safe otter]

Instead of a good dps

[scenic dirge]

Todo gets his ability on placement

[safe otter]

Todo isnt free

1k every move

And aizen wants to move all the time if you actually want good dps

[wary badger]

I got deadeye Vergil/Dante/Yhwatch and eth Katakuri/Subaru/Rin, might try to get into an lb run hehe

[safe otter]

Its laggy as shit

So wait a bit

[static cape]

dawwggg only 197k?? Should be pushing for 300k avg

[runic breach]

deadeye vergil meta

[wary badger]

Yeah

[neat tinsel]

i could get more

[static cape]

thast the point

max is like 240k plus or smthing

iirc

[safe otter]

Youre not even using the birb familiar

[neat tinsel]

I get 300k

[opal steeple]

why is deadeye choi good

someone tell me

[neat tinsel]

avg

I js placed down that gogeta

quickly

no stacks built up

[safe otter]

Mainly for placement and because tje nukes can crit

[neat tinsel]

no supports

[wary badger]

Bird must be the most braindead familiar

[neat tinsel]

nthn

[opal steeple]

what nukes

choi can nuke ??

[safe otter]

When choy burn expires he deals a nuke equal to the burn damage

Dealt

[wary badger]

Imagine a godroll bird with high corruption %

[scenic dirge]

Get c3

[safe otter]

And every single choy on the field does that nuke

Thats why you want more placements

[wary badger]

Legit got a 1% buff 💔

And its 1-50%

Actually 0-50%

[safe otter]

Didnt even reroll the element before

[static cape]

agreed.

[opal steeple]

is buu meta or not

[safe otter]

No

[static cape]

pretty unlucky with the -27% tho

[wary badger]

That goes crazy for monarch aizen/yhwatch

[runic breach]

as long as it isnt on a crit unit this is crazy 😭

[safe otter]

Mfw my units crits do less damage than non crits

[dense jewel]

this is my best birb for deadeye dante

[safe otter]

Because negative crit damage

[opal steeple]

i got this

[runic breach]

reroll it bro 😭

[opal steeple]

not bad

[dense jewel]

y

[safe otter]

Why are we not rerolling elements guys

[dawn ledge]

no cause it coruption 1 aahahhahah

[static cape]

its technically -3% dmg for me if i crit

[runic breach]

-crit and all mid stats besides crit dmg

[night stone]

For my gogeta

[dense jewel]

cus i was going to use it for dante and there isnt unbound

[opal steeple]

should i corrupt my birb

[static cape]

last option, get a good roll firstr

[opal steeple]

is this good enough

[dense jewel]

i only care about the crit dmg and +15% is good, also deadeye dante has like 125% crit rate so -3.4% crit doesnt matter

[static cape]

try harder

[opal steeple]

what are ideal stats

[dense jewel]

also no reason to reroll it considering i have like 15 birbs

[static cape]

atleast 2 of those aughta be 20%

[static cape]

4 20% stats

[safe otter]

Theres a +30

Crit damage

[dense jewel]

keep it and roll on a diff one

[sullen wigeon]

Good

[static cape]

oh dangg awesome dududeee

[dawn ledge]

just get monarch dante vro

[dense jewel]

i have enough rrs to hit pity and dante but i would rather wait for 6.0 and roll on vergil/yhwach

[safe otter]

No worries croschiliccious

[dense jewel]

cus deadeye dante is sufficient for my needs

[opal steeple]

another birb 😭😭 i only have one bro

[dense jewel]

😭

[static cape]

get another one, so u dont risk it

unless ur down for odyssey

[opal steeple]

i will probably

[night stone]

Was this good?

[dawn ledge]

yhwach monarhc firsttt

[static cape]

w

[dawn ledge]

ro my keyoard acig erid as uc

[night stone]

I rolled it off but I should’ve kept

[opal steeple]

shard drop buff soon hopefully

[dense jewel]

both 😊

[safe otter]

Yes thats a really good roll

[dawn ledge]

youonlgot111pity

[safe otter]

If its before c3

[dawn ledge]

thiskeyboard

omd

[opal steeple]

wgat does c3 do

i forgot

[dense jewel]

but avg rrs per monarch is 1000 so if im average i can get both

[safe otter]

0-50% boost to stats

[opal steeple]

so basically no downside

[dawn ledge]

good luck then

[safe otter]

Why wait for 6.0 to roll on them

[safe otter]

Yes

[opal steeple]

maybe better units drop

[safe otter]

Fuck off bro this suggestion sucks

[dense jewel]

cus potential powercreep and maybe different units i would like to roll on

[runic breach]

200k no goku is actually some insanity lmaooo 😭 ✌️

[sullen wigeon]

Js vote alr

[sullen wigeon]

I’m Him yk

[opal steeple]

200k for goku is straight up lying bro 😭😭

[safe otter]

I roll as soon as I get to 20 rrs

[sullen wigeon]

If only 😭😭

[static cape]

Losing on a 40% chance banner is def insanity, especially with a 200k

[runic breach]

0.02 percent chance of happening btw and thats assuming you hit pity every single time 😭

[dense jewel]

how many monarchs do u have

[static cape]

worse than hitting 2500 pity monarch

[dense jewel]

much worse

[safe otter]

Sjw, gogeta, yhwach, vergil

Only those 4

[dense jewel]

nice

[opal steeple]

actually good monarchs

[dense jewel]

u dont really need any monarchs for now

[opal steeple]

unlike mine

8 monarchs half are buns 😭

[dense jewel]

just save until pity

[dense jewel]

7 monarchs 3 are buns

[safe otter]

I only started playing in 3.5 so I didnt even roll on old units like most people

[opal steeple]

not worse than mine trust me

[dense jewel]

what do u have

[safe otter]

Trying to get cid rn

[opal steeple]

i get eth on meta and monarch on supports

[safe otter]

4 ethereals in

[dense jewel]

SAME

like deadass

[opal steeple]

look at my eths compared to my monarchs

add monarch katakuri

this ss is old

[strange oak]

My fellow monarch esdeath comrade aswell

[opal steeple]

monarch zion is diabolical 😭

[opal steeple]

i wanted eth 💔💔

same happened with kata