Half Hourly limit

[cyan cobalt]

Before it was confirmed this was supposed to be a feature, stars were 10-15 ahead on average

either way, even after the news spread to m@cro users that this is being implemented, the ratio still stayed about 50/50

[grizzled badger]

No undeniable majority tho

[oblique smelt]

because people want to do stuff easier without having any issue ig or winning without doing anything lol

[cyan cobalt]

which is way more legit players than i expected

[grizzled badger]

A good suggestion has no opposition at all

Implementing such a controversial feature is such a risk

[oblique smelt]

controversial for the people the devs doesn't want on their game

[sturdy zodiac]

It’s been in the game for almost a month now they have tasted the rewards of course they don’t want it limited

[oblique smelt]

who wants mango users on their game
it literally ruins it and make it a afk festival like certain game

[grizzled badger]

Devs r the ones who implemented this kinda half hourly in the first place without anyone asking 💔

[silver cedar]

Then why does afk chamber exist bro

[grizzled badger]

Mango is the reason why avg stands on top.

[silver cedar]

And afk chamber

[grizzled badger]

AA fell off bcuz mango was impossible

[cyan cobalt]

There is a middle-ground solution that both m@cro and legit players would love
instead of 24 hours of half hourlies giving 1 reroll each, limiting it to 8 hours (one third) but 3 rerolls each (triple)
The total amount gained would be the same for m@cro users, but still allow legit players to compete with them

[cyan cobalt]

premium payouts

The real reason AV stands on top is just that all the other TDs are pretty shit in quality

at least all the ones ive tried so far

though AV is slowly joining them with each update breaking it more and more

[oblique smelt]

people doesn't care about quality anymore
people just want updates

[grizzled badger]

Sure thats a part of it,but mango is also the primary reason,even the devs admitted to that

[grizzled badger]

Still on top

There isnt any other anime tds

Ppl can go to

Als is eh

[cyan cobalt]

Yea I do believe AV is still on top despite it

[oblique smelt]

that game is impossible without using mango lol

als is the king of the mangos

[cyan cobalt]

isnt that arx?

[grizzled badger]

Ye exactly the reason why it defeated AA

[cyan cobalt]

that game doesnt even have gameplay (arx)

[oblique smelt]

AA died because people aren't the same as before
they couldn't adapt to modern times

[cyan cobalt]

the powercreep seemed pretty bad on AA though i never played it so im only saying this from an outside angle

[oblique smelt]

and the remodels (fucking frieren got ruined)

[cyan cobalt]

i also hard a lot of people hate the remodel thing they do?

releasing units as normal then changing them to some off-brand OCs

i might be confusing it with another ATD

[oblique smelt]

yea, that is aa

[oblique smelt]

there was barely any powercreep at all
in fact the aa meta was stable

[cyan cobalt]

isnt AA the one with the double Unique Vegito that deals 3 billion damage or something?

[oblique smelt]

which was only possible to get on inf mode

and wasn't even that great
only crazy with double unique lol

[cyan cobalt]

Hmm I see, limiting it to inf mode does sound alright

[oblique smelt]

i pray for it game downfall

[cyan cobalt]

Look on the bright side... If the tournament requires Uryu, you can use 3 Ethereal Sabers to give him -45% SPA (for some reason, it stacks)

[solid roost]

Okay so this is genuinely just a bad take

We're talking about setting limits on content that's existed for months just to TRY and counterract people who afk

But p2w is completely fine?

About the "p2w being the standard on Roblox"

The standard for the atd space atm literally is farmable rrs

The only reasons people don't make a big deal about that in AV is because 1) The 700 rrs a week figure helps the devs maintain that "You can get that many of you really want" and 2) Because the game doesn't scale to monarchs yet

Not to mention that nerfing something months after it has come out is just a horrendous precedent that should not be set

[cyan cobalt]

No not at all. I hate p2w with a passion, but asking for p2w to be changed/removed is magnitudes times more impossible than asking to curb m@cros

[cyan cobalt]

I kinda just disagree with that but sure

[solid roost]

Everything else in the game is going to depend on mangos anyway

[solid roost]

Did we not see how badly this was recieved last time it happened?

[cyan cobalt]

You mean the buffing of Diavolo?

[solid roost]

No

Igris nerfs

And they haven't done anything like that since

For good reason

Nobody cares about diavolo being buffed from bad to okay

[cyan cobalt]

That nerf was just kinda stupid though from the old devs
Igris didn't seem broken whatsoever, meta at the time sure but completely pointless nerf

[solid roost]

Any nerf that occurs MONTHS after something has been in the game

Is stupid

You had time to test the feature before it was even out, and then you had atleast a week to determine how things are looking

Why should anything be nerfed for someone's 2 month long oversight

[cyan cobalt]

That sentiment is why a lot of games in general keep broken things broken forever, and I don't just mean OP but underpowered as well
Not everything will be apparent until it settles into the game via live players

[solid roost]

This is not that sort of game

It takes 2 minutes of thought to realize the impact of the challenge rework

Not 2 months

[frozen oasis]

its better late than never

[solid roost]

No it is not 💀

[frozen oasis]

it is

[solid roost]

If this was meant to be a poll

[sudden elk]

bounty rewards are bad tbh only 1rr per turn

[cyan cobalt]

Okay, then surprise, it was intended to exist they just can't not make things broken to save their life
What then

[solid roost]

You can already see how that's looking like

[frozen oasis]

so bad

[sudden elk]

make em 10 rrs!

[solid roost]

Horrid precedent, shouldn't be set. Do it, and then face the community backlash.

The challenge rework greatly boosted their reputation and overall opinion around the game

What do you think will happen when the direct opposite happens

[frozen oasis]

i dont think the majority of the playerbase actually thinks about the future of the game

[high trail]

.

[fickle laurel]

Chat does he know

[solid roost]

What you or I think doesn't matter if the average playerbase is about as loyal as a hyena

[cyan cobalt]

I saw the opposite, turning them local cooldown has been negatively received by everyone

[solid roost]

Only the dailies and weeklies reallt

Don't know why those aren't global in the first place

[frozen oasis]

which is why it shouldnt be a poll

[solid roost]

..?

[frozen oasis]

devs simply need to make a decision even if its late

[cyan cobalt]

I still think its useful to poll the % for calculated risk taking

[frozen oasis]

but i heard its already been made

[cyan cobalt]

even if this post had only reactions I still think that in itself would be valuable to know

[solid roost]

Reputation and public opinion when damaged takes insane amounts of effort to fix

It took 2 bad updates for this game to go from 90k+ at all times to what, barely 20k?

The devs are free to experiment as they like

[frozen oasis]

who cares about the public opinion of ppl who dont want the game to change and become better(mango users)

[solid roost]

We've already seen the results of a chain of delayed and bad decisions once

[solid roost]

You think the game is becoming better because instead of 700 rrs mango users now make 500?

[frozen oasis]

yes it limits the amount of rrs they can get

[solid roost]

This makes the game better how I'm genuinely curious now

[frozen oasis]

its still not enough but its better

[cyan cobalt]

Let's be honest most of those were bots even after they did a few ban waves
I open the server list and see entire servers with the exact same appearance, join, and see automated names
Realistically the game never truly had 100k even during the Bleach update

[solid roost]

Will this make the game more enjoyable

Will we see a hike in playercount after this

Will we see an overwhelmingly positive response from the community

[frozen oasis]

stops this game from becoming a total rr farm

[cyan cobalt]

Legit players aren't left in the dust for no reason

[solid roost]

Oh yeah those 200 less rrs are surely going to stop people who already got 10 monarchs in these 2 months 💀

[cyan cobalt]

Yea, new units will come out

[fickle laurel]

200 rrs is a lot

It adds up

[solid roost]

Yeah over like half an year maybe

Also if units like Vergil and dante go out of meta in like 3 updates even

[frozen oasis]

half a year isnt a long time tho

[solid roost]

Idk what they're doing

[fickle laurel]

6 months is a pretty long time for a game like this

[solid roost]

They can make this change for all I care it doesn't really matter. If they actually want to make people mango less then make fun modes. I hope pvp is just that

[frozen oasis]

maybe for a game but for life 6 months isnt long and will go by fast

[solid roost]

Making the cid raid a bit more annoying to mango didn't change shit

[fickle laurel]

Well yeah

[solid roost]

People mangod it same day still

[fickle laurel]

But it's not a good comparison for the state of things

[solid roost]

Instead of deliberately making life harder for people who just use tinytask and don't pay mr non formal or have other ahk alternatives just make modes that you can have fun playing and don't need to do 100 times

[sleek pecan]

Elements dont matter in this game

[solid roost]

Maybe then we'll see less people mango

[sleek pecan]

at least in games like als you have elmental metas

that slightly lowers the rate of powercreep

[solid roost]

Yeah let's not go down the als path in that regard

💀

[signal spear]

Thats not true 2 elements matter. The rest are just objectively worse

[frozen oasis]

they said it was to introduce unique n interactive mechanics though just bc they said that doesnt mean jts true

[fickle laurel]

It's kinda hard to make a TD of all things fun outside of being a singleplayer game that's entirely dictated by you

In a game like this, repetition and being boring is just kinda a given if you want any semblance of playtime

As much as it sucks

[sleek pecan]

powercreep rate or elemental metas?

[signal spear]

Both

[solid roost]

Both

[signal spear]

Als elements are just "bring this color now, dont bring the others"

[sleek pecan]

just because the als implementation is shit doesnt mean the fundamental idea is

[signal spear]

You compared it to als

[sleek pecan]

because people usually dogpile me for saying "ooohh x game is incomparable to an atd "

[signal spear]

Because theyre stupid

[solid roost]

300% elemental damage is very much shit

[fickle laurel]

It depends on the mechanics you compare

[solid roost]

And "als" and "less powrcreep" in one sentence

[fickle laurel]

Like royale had the pokemon style elemental matchup system and it was a neat idea in theory imho, but it just didn't have enough explanation/utilization

[solid roost]

I think that's just the simplest and most sensible to do type advantages ima be real

Als just fucks it up because 300% is beyond stupid

But 2x and 0.5x are easy to understand and follow

[signal spear]

Yea advantages arent a bad idea just dont make it so that 1 element has 1 weakness and 1 strength you know

Make it like pokemon where each element has multiple weaknesses and strengths

[solid roost]

I get that they tried to be unique and creative with the av elemental chart but it's legit just "only use monarch units against holy enemies and ignore every other element"

[fickle laurel]

The biggest problem with it was that it had no in-game description to help players understand it, and the systems that were supposed to make the element matchups matter ended up not doing anything at all because the powercreep hit way too hard

for royale, for clarity's sake.

[solid roost]

And to be honest I don't think av has that much of a powrcreep issue

Like most of its competition rn

[signal spear]

Yea yhwach is still meta

And he was 4.0

[solid roost]

He's still the 2nd best unit in my opinion, overall

Aizen with monarch is still good

Great even

[signal spear]

Although powercreep might speed up once they run out of unique ideas for units

[solid roost]

Had the dmc units not been this broken the meta since 4.5 would've legit been about the same

[signal spear]

Yea if anything the 5.0 db units were a bit too weak

[solid roost]

You can do so much with the current unit gimmicks and stuff alone that I don't think that should happen

[sleek pecan]

and literally

just make proper elemental reactions

and make proper elements while were at it

[frozen oasis]

are the devs aware of the problems of the current state of the game

[sleek pecan]

wtf is a reaction between unbound and passion supposed

to be

[signal spear]

Yea rename the passion element

[fickle laurel]

In royale? I have no idea. I left.

[signal spear]

Like what is that

[solid roost]

Don't think so

I just watch the nag videos on it

And the dps number rises by a good 50% for every new unit showcase

[frozen oasis]

i mean av

[fickle laurel]

Oh

[solid roost]

Als powrcreep ain't even worth talking about

[fickle laurel]

I mean yeah, they're aware of a good deal of them

[signal spear]

They just dont care

They make enough money

[sleek pecan]

dragonball units 🥀

[solid roost]

They care a little bit

[solid roost]

Goku is meta support atleast

[fickle laurel]

Some of them are things that they just don't intend to do anything extra with, like corruption. There's plans around it down the road, but I can't say much more about it than that.

[signal spear]

Yea they cared enough to fix the buffed unit in the tournament but they didnt change the fucking map

How incompetent do you have to be

[solid roost]

Gohan makes life convenient so I'll say he's alright too

[cyan cobalt]

i guess this applies to legit players too...

[solid roost]

It certainly is a gambling addiction

[sleek pecan]

i play because i like having playable anime characters

[solid roost]

I won't say p2w is too bad in this game

[sleek pecan]

nothing more

nothing less

[cyan cobalt]

I almost like Odyssey and tournaments

[solid roost]

You could legit run inf lb with 0 monarchs rn if you wanted to and still get t12

[signal spear]

I hecking love energy drain in every single tournament

[fickle laurel]

Monarch gohan is probably one of the best starter strats for some things in the game
Hercule's a very nice support unit
Buu's a good balance of support and damage, namely for the DBZ teams themselves
Goku/Vegeta are a good support duo and Vegito's strong, will probably shine more in the future

[sleek pecan]

oh i thought we were talking about the royale dragon ball units

[fickle laurel]

oh

[sleek pecan]

or whatever game

had beerus

[fickle laurel]

fusions being powercrept basically next update or two 🥀

[solid roost]

It will take a lot of mr "more expensive than gogeta but 66% the dps" to shine, can't lie

[cyan cobalt]

I love that Hercule actually allows you to support your friends

[solid roost]

Goku and Vegeta are fire though

[fickle laurel]

Just wait for the future

[cyan cobalt]

I mean sure theres others like Haruka Rin and Subaru, but money-wise

[solid roost]

Goku being a more consistent slow than katakuri with the familiar will never not be funny to me

[fickle laurel]

Also yeah. I read the description and made sure that it was supposed to work like that so I could report it not working after

Being able to buff co-op income is crazy

[solid roost]

Did katakuri really need that drawback when esdeath is just a meta freeze with high dps and a timestop that enables you to nuke bosses like nobody's business

[sleek pecan]

just put it on closest?

[solid roost]

Did they fix that

Heard it still doesn't work

[fickle laurel]

Only on the full aoe

[high trail]

I think no

[fickle laurel]

everything else works fine

[solid roost]

Yeah well why use anything else when Goku is just a full aoe slow too

And he stuns more often

Ig traitless modes

[potent cloak]

Isnt goku's slow a lower %

Isnt it like 30% slow

[cyan cobalt]

Goku & Vegeta being an all-in-one mega support is still insane
Stun, Slow, Rupture, Anti-Debuff/Status Ailment (whichever it is at this point)

and i think im forgetting 2 more

[solid roost]

He's 40 I think?

[mortal sparrow]

I need Mon pity plz no 🙏 💔

[high trail]

Plz yes

[sleek pecan]

give up something for the greater good of the game

[fickle laurel]

Curb the mangos

[mortal sparrow]

Anyways this is a losing battle for y’all there’s more L’s than stars

[sleek pecan]

only because L is the default reaction

[solid roost]

There's gonna be a 12 hour cap or smth

[cyan cobalt]

Thats okay, its a vote afterall to see who prefers m@cro and who prefers legit

[olive hollow]

i mean there already is a limit

[solid roost]

Which doesn't really do too much

[olive hollow]

or that

[fickle laurel]

I have very little problem with mangos actually existing, it is what it is. (I still miss when it was just "record>repeat" instead of making something play the game for you) I just don't like the disparity between mango and non-

[cyan cobalt]

it exists it just doesnt work atm

[fickle laurel]

There's supposed to be

[mortal sparrow]

Ye and until they make the regular modes fun obv mango is better

[fickle laurel]

So this isn't really a "losing battle"

[sleek pecan]

why make progression more productive when youre afk

that makes no sense

arent you playing the game

to play it

[solid roost]

No rational person can be asked to prefer "legit" if that means you need to do like 100 manual completions of a floor just to get a unit.

[olive hollow]

to be fair one of the main appeals of td games in general is that it requires low attention (i think)

my sources for this information? I made it the fuck up

[solid roost]

A 24 challenge limit is fine I don't think even most mangoers do more than 30

But it doesn't change anything

[civic hornet]

[solid roost]

Why would I choose to play manually when the grind is not enjoyable and has no end in sight

If those criteria were met

[sleek pecan]

ony atds bc they do stupid shit like monarch/unique

[solid roost]

I probably wouldn't bother mangoing in the first place

[sleek pecan]

travesty of a tower defense

[cyan cobalt]

Well. I have done 200 igris legend stages and around 40 boss event completions before getting an Igris
But I'm not at all against improved rates like Cid with Catalyst
I fully believe Choy should have either had Catalyst or increased with the Loot Multiplier from the cards
And many other cases

[civic hornet]

this game being anti manual is the dumbest take

if anything its anti mango

[mortal sparrow]

Also btw most mangoers aren’t gonna be on 24/7 anyways due to disconnecting and such so the limit u proposed really wouldn’t affect much

[fickle laurel]

Don't get me wrong, I don't like them and I'll never be doing them. But I'm not going to be mad at my buddy mangoing a boss event overnight because he just wants a single copy of igris for the vsjw quest and he has an actual job.

[signal spear]

I think we found someone dumber than 1970

[solid roost]

It doesn't matter what you've done man, I personally might do it but most people won't because asking people to keep doing the same stage that is not fun just for a slight chance at a character is just insanity

[civic hornet]

they legit tp to spawn randomised

shit is so egregious

[sleek pecan]

you could also just... rebalance the rates...

[mortal sparrow]

It is but there just really bad at accomplishing it

[cyan cobalt]

remember when the TD cycle was just "new TD comes out, they add some new units over a few updates, the game dies" (no RNG, you just bought units) lmao

[civic hornet]

rs

[signal spear]

Womp womp, they want you to play the game

[civic hornet]

uhuh

[fickle laurel]

That doesn't stop people at all

[mortal sparrow]

Remember when they lied about not making cid raid unmangoable on purpose

[civic hornet]

yeah ik

still the efforts there

[fickle laurel]

The people that are mangoing challenges have a thing playing the game for them

[solid roost]

You could 5x the rates and that does nothing

[fickle laurel]

It just makes basic "record>repeat" ones ineffective

[signal spear]

Maybe thats just really the most complex mechanic they could come up with

[fickle laurel]

Except seamless retry just exists

[mortal sparrow]

Ye and it’s still mangoable lmao

[cyan cobalt]

Yea my bad if I wasn't clear in my wording, I wish the rates were either better or we were allowed to do even harder versions of the stages for better chances
I dream of 10% drop rates that requires a full team
I fully agree that these low drop rates are just insane and actually negatively impact the fun you can have

[sleek pecan]

just make this game coop heavy, increase the rates, and add smaller daily tasks for solo players to make incremental progression

thats how every mmorpg does it

[cyan cobalt]

Wait really?
You wouldn't have to grind to boredom though, no?

[mortal sparrow]

Btw mangos have gotten extremely accurate a good config can play better than a real player

[solid roost]

The latter is a good idea but ion think making stages scale to coop play is a good idea

[solid roost]

I went 500 floors for Igris

[olive hollow]

what

[sleek pecan]

not scaling to coop, coop mechanics

[solid roost]

I would not do 100 stages for him

[civic hornet]

the cid config im using keeps losing

slide urs twin

[mortal sparrow]

I mean it repeats the same set of steps precisely and quickly so there’s no human error

[cyan cobalt]

Ok well yea that is fair, 0.75% is just so low that even 10x hardly saves it LOL

[solid roost]

You mean making coop play more rewarding?

[mortal sparrow]

I have it posted

But it’s like full Mon

[civic hornet]

word

[civic hornet]

which

[cyan cobalt]

That's just a regular m@cro though

[civic hornet]

[solid roost]

Because there's not too much coop mechanics I can think of, besides guilds having things like quests and shops

[sleek pecan]

coop mechanics within the stage

[fickle laurel]

It's a lot more difficult to make content "unmangoable" when mangos are at the point where you have a literal AI playing the game through image recognition

[olive hollow]

at this point these mangos are just cheats

[solid roost]

So should the stage ONLY be beatable with coop or should coop simply make the stage more rewarding

[signal spear]

Ban people who mango

[fickle laurel]

Only beatable with co-op is a terrible idea

[cyan cobalt]

The eternal war of cheaters vs developers has ended along with that becoming a thing in general
Developers simply can no longer do anything against a never-resting machine

[solid roost]

The dandadan event was such a bad idea. That was where these ahk mangos became popular too

[fickle laurel]

Like I get where it comes from on paper

[sleek pecan]

coop allows you to progress further and challenge higher tiers that involve more complicated mechanics

[signal spear]

Destiny raids are only beatable with other players and theyre fine

[solid roost]

Exactly

[fickle laurel]

But people will want to farm things on their own time

[mortal sparrow]

70% of there playerbase gone instantly

[solid roost]

Can't ban them if you can't detect them

[fickle laurel]

And in practice, just turns players away from wanting to do things

[signal spear]

Good

[solid roost]

Exactly

[solid roost]

Yeah stop cooking

[civic hornet]

[solid roost]

It's also probably more like 85%

[fickle laurel]

Look at love portals requiring at least 2 people

[cyan cobalt]

Apparently only 40-50% from the official poll

[sleek pecan]

i agree

[fickle laurel]

Nobody liked love portals lmao

[signal spear]

The problem was the amoumt of love portals ypu had to do

[solid roost]

You guys would kill the game 💀

[mortal sparrow]

Ye but some people mango multiple accounts

A lot of people

[fickle laurel]

That too, yeah

[cyan cobalt]

40 hours of grind MINIMUM
It was just stupid as shit

[sleek pecan]

because that wasnt a coop mechanic that was just a number requirement to get max rewards

[solid roost]

Also how do you ban something you can't even detect

[sleek pecan]

that was stupid

[potent cloak]

and love portals already had additional incentive to play with others😭

[mortal sparrow]

It probably is detectable if they tried tbh

[fickle laurel]

The point is that forcing co-op onto players

[solid roost]

Nobody is going to recieve a mode that cannot be solod well be real

[fickle laurel]

Just isn't enjoyable in practice for a game like this

[sleek pecan]

what about mmorpg raids?

[solid roost]

Not without forcing you to download something

[mortal sparrow]

Wdym how was it forced

[signal spear]

Playing with others is always more fun tjan sitting alone in a dark room

[sleek pecan]

true technically it wasnt forced

[cyan cobalt]

2 players to start at all

it was completely forced

[fickle laurel]

Those have entirely different mechanics that also have entire guild systems surrounding the idea of a co-op experience

[cyan cobalt]

you couldnt even attempt to solo grind love portals

[sleek pecan]

so why cant this game be a coop experience

why does it have to follow the aa formula

ion get it

[fickle laurel]

I'm also saying the suggestion of a co-op mandated mechanic in a stage would also be terrible, unless it was disabled in solo

[solid roost]

Making gamemodes only beatable with a full team is literally the aa formula

[fickle laurel]

In which case, what's even the point

[cyan cobalt]

Yea at least you can crack a few jokes during your 87th Ant Raid run...

[sleek pecan]

you dont get it

[mortal sparrow]

Well the rewards scaled with more people so it was a waste of time to do it with less than 4 anyways

[signal spear]

Same with the cid raid. Why do you punish players for playing with others

[sleek pecan]

aa isnt coop check

[civic hornet]

love portals without the selector was hell bro

[sleek pecan]

its a stat check

[civic hornet]

had to do grid

[fickle laurel]

Also yeah that's kinda the problem with new mangos. It's almost impossible to distinguish them from a normal player from just a purely technical standpoint

[sleek pecan]

stat checks are annoying asf

[mortal sparrow]

Don’t bring back those nightmares

[civic hornet]

lmao

of yeah diidnt i do it w u aswll

shit ws so bad

[solid roost]

Yeah dawg I don't get how raids from mmorpgs would work in this game with a completely different gameplay loop, playerbase and general opinion on game mechanics

[civic hornet]

uryu vsjw

[solid roost]

It's a coop check for anyone without uniques

[mortal sparrow]

Actually ngl delta would cook for grid

[fickle laurel]

Shoutouts to the buu raid basically needing an entire party and one or two people to have uniques or else everyone left

[mortal sparrow]

Unique 💀

[potent cloak]

and if you had the right uniques you could just solo😭

[sleek pecan]

its a dmg check that just manifests in people needing more dmg

[ornate stratus]

who tf afks half hourly challenges anyways?

[sleek pecan]

that isnt coop

[civic hornet]

aa twin

man

[sleek pecan]

calling that "coop" is disingenuous

[olive hollow]

mango users

[mortal sparrow]

Ik but yall need to move on

[civic hornet]

rs

[signal spear]

Just cope the destint 2 dungeons. The mechanics are soloable but significantly easier if you play with 3 players

[solid roost]

Any mechanic that forces you to be in a coop is going to be recieved the same way

[civic hornet]

rip my monarch elyssia

[mortal sparrow]

It’s like 300 rr a week

[ornate stratus]

what??

[fickle laurel]

Good luck doing that without a wallet or being some dumpster diving trade sweat

[civic hornet]

word

[solid roost]

Way more

[potent cloak]

just get lucky
unique ainz could solo before they nerfed him

[sleek pecan]

not really

aa wasnt fun

[solid roost]

Yes really

[ornate stratus]

whos gonna leave their pc on for a week

[civic hornet]

uh huh

[mortal sparrow]

Well only if ur on 24/7 im talking about average mango user with shit WiFi

[olive hollow]

idk they just leave there nasa computars on for the weekend and get hundreds of rr's

[sleek pecan]

nothing in aa was fun

[solid roost]

Most people in this community WILL NOT like a mode that cannot be solod

[fickle laurel]

True

[grand loom]

Content was

[solid roost]

Dumbest Roblox player title next please

[grand loom]

It was fun playing with teammates as the difficulty was incredibly difficult even with uniques

[mortal sparrow]

I think a good balance is soloable with monarchs, requires coop without

[fickle laurel]

But it was also amplified by content being so difficult that you basically had to be in co-op unless you had the disposable income to put unique on every unit

[solid roost]

That's just aa then

[ornate stratus]

i get that the devs need to make money, but they should just be like ASTD and make it so that there arent ANY traits in the game at all. it would be 100x more fair

[olive hollow]

Lol

[grand loom]

Yeah and AV doesn’t have any of that

[olive hollow]

never happening

[mortal sparrow]

Ye I mean the difficulty was the best part of aa

[grand loom]

All of our gamemodes here are pure solo

[solid roost]

Little too late to do that now 💀

[grand loom]

Which is annoying

[ornate stratus]

yeah

[potent cloak]

and then there was on release sakamoto contracts that just straight up werent beatable without a full team of uniques😭

[fickle laurel]

Which is a good thing. Players will want to be able to do content on their own time

[grand loom]

They need to stop being scared and raise up the difficulty

[solid roost]

Well tbf that only lasted like 20 hours

[grand loom]

They had no reason to need that event

[fickle laurel]

Co-op is for if you need to make things a bit easier or get a carry, or if you wanna make use of the MVP system

[grand loom]

Deadass all you had to do was play with others

[mortal sparrow]

Ye there moving in the right direction with cid raid at least

[signal spear]

Its insane how there is literally nothing other than wl lb that requires a single thought

[solid roost]

No we ain't

[signal spear]

Its all just place monarch units in front

[potent cloak]

still was actually insane
insane hp, story money, hp scales with teamates so matchmaking is a guaranteed loss😭

[grand loom]

So you want av to not add co-op
Gamemodes? At some
Point we’re going need them soon later

[signal spear]

And then go away

[mortal sparrow]

*in terms of difficulty

[solid roost]

Making tinytask more and more irrelevant and making ahk more and more common place is not a good idea

[fickle laurel]

I don't want them to be forced co-op mechanics.

[solid roost]

Exactly

[grand loom]

Then say that,

[fickle laurel]

I said that in the beginning

[olive hollow]

😮‍💨

[civic hornet]

rifts 🤟 😝

[potent cloak]

rifts?

[olive hollow]

just pack it up 1970

[solid roost]

It's 1970

[mortal sparrow]

👍 unmangoable

[solid roost]

What did you expect

[fickle laurel]

oh ik

[solid roost]

Rifts were actually sorta the right direction mostly because of vowstones

[grand loom]

my point is that they won’t improve overall if all they going do is keep adding solo gamemodes

[solid roost]

Even if the grind was tedious I'd do it if I could see a pity in sight

[mortal sparrow]

O ye actually when I saw what vowstone did I was so surprised

[grand loom]

maybe bring back pargraon or something, it’ll be useful to test our unnecessary monarchs

[mortal sparrow]

That they were actually reasonable about grind for once

[civic hornet]

wordlines twin

[mortal sparrow]

Ik rn it’s just leaderboards

[grand loom]

Solo gamemode

[civic hornet]

word

[mortal sparrow]

Inf lb?

[solid roost]

To be fair to 1970 for once wl is solo

[grand loom]

Eh, it’s just the same meta

pargraon was different

[civic hornet]

paragon prime 😭😭😔😔🤟🤟

[mortal sparrow]

100 good job people

[civic hornet]

d1 hating

[fringe drum]

we need to pump those numbers up

[fickle laurel]

Gonna be fun when the limit gets fixed anyways

[solid roost]

Hope the backlash isn't too bad

[fringe drum]

what limit?

[signal spear]

I hope they get mad about it

[potent cloak]

It shouldn't be
Only affects macros realistically

[solid roost]

Issue is that 90% of the community is just gonna follow like sheep

Without thinking

People hated on the fate update just because, despite it probably being one of the better updates this game has had

[fringe drum]

what yall even talking abt

what limit

[potent cloak]

Challenge limit

Like 12 hours worth of challenges as the daily limit or something like that

[fringe drum]

did they say anything abt a challenge limit?

[solid roost]

Supposed to be 24

Isn't in the game atm

[potent cloak]

It was supposed to be added a while ago ig it just never got added

[fringe drum]

welp better if there isnt

[signal spear]

How would that be better

[civic hornet]

🥀

[fringe drum]

cus more rerolls?

lol

[signal spear]

Yea the people who mango get more rrs

[fringe drum]

exactly

[signal spear]

Are you fucking stupid mate

[olive hollow]

-# fate update was peak tho (Totally not biased)

[fringe drum]

no but i am pro getting as many rerolls as possible

[olive hollow]

so pro

[solid roost]

It was good

[signal spear]

Theres other ways to give out more rrs without it only benefitting mangos

[fringe drum]

just get a mango its not that deep

[signal spear]

No bro I have pride

[solid roost]

People hated on it because the opinion around the game was bad at the moment

[fickle laurel]

20*, iirc

[solid roost]

Masochism is what I'd call it

[olive hollow]

idk i saw saber thats all i needed

[fringe drum]

pride in a roblox game?

[solid roost]

That's ight

[signal spear]

No pride in general

[civic hornet]

🥀

[fringe drum]

u can take pride in being top 1 in lbs

[hallow vapor]

Keep it how it is I’m happy with my 500 rr a week

[fringe drum]

which u need rerolls tog et moanrchs for

[solid roost]

We were reaching 250ish before challenges were even a think so I doubt thats affecting people that much

[signal spear]

What did the fate update even add other than units

[civic hornet]

hi dexter

[solid roost]

Worldlines

[hallow vapor]

Hi sen

[solid roost]

Tons of qol

[civic hornet]

u mangoing arx or av rn

[signal spear]

Yea once they stop resetting I will try

[hallow vapor]

all I’m running 10 rdps rn

[civic hornet]

[fringe drum]

i dont think they will

[civic hornet]

use / timeusage

in bot commands

[hallow vapor]

I got an av account with 2k re rolls just an alt

💀

[civic hornet]

1 monarch

and 40 deadeyes

[hallow vapor]

I’d be sad

[fringe drum]

are u the famous dexter config maker?

[civic hornet]

is it a lag issue if u get stuck on unit manager in cid raid

[hallow vapor]

Bro knows me

Also lead tester

of infroggy

[fringe drum]

ur kind of a big shot

u and jijat

[hallow vapor]

gulp

[hallow vapor]

config issue you can try add a unit slot 0 on cancel

[hallow vapor]

nobody knows us twin

[fringe drum]

i do

[hallow vapor]

❤️❤️

[fringe drum]

we need to unit and fight against the macr0phobia

[civic hornet]

mango

[fringe drum]

?

[civic hornet]

mango mango

[fringe drum]

🥭

[hallow vapor]

even if they do we will find a way to get around it

So don’t worry

[fringe drum]

yes but it seems other players also hate us

lol

[hallow vapor]

oh well

[civic hornet]

its av

[mortal sparrow]

The goat worldlines

[solid roost]

😭

[civic hornet]

pvp mango

[hallow vapor]

Is that the void???

[civic hornet]

strat is js 6 monarchs

[hallow vapor]

Ye I’ve already brought this up to info that we need config battles

[solid roost]

Tbf how do you overcome a 20 daily challenge cap, that should cut the rates atleast by a little bit

[mortal sparrow]

Be careful when fighting ender dragon

[fringe drum]

i wAnT tO limit to 16 hOurS a daY cus i can OnlY manuaLlY play 16 hoUrs per daY 🤓

[hallow vapor]

crazy work

[mortal sparrow]

As if we mango more than that

*most of the time

[fringe drum]

welp yea i dont usually but i've seen ppl letting it run over 3 days straight

someone let it run 2 weeks and when he got back home his pc burnt to death

[mortal sparrow]

Makes sense

[civic hornet]

can we get a fail safe option or setting like

local TeleportService = game:GetService("TeleportService")
local PlaceId =
local WaitTime = 300 -- Time before it teleports

[hallow vapor]

What is bro cooking

[civic hornet]

if the thing gets stuck

[civic hornet]

like after nun happens after inserted time

[hallow vapor]

In what

Mode

[civic hornet]

tps u to priv or game in general

any

toggle setting feature

[hallow vapor]

[civic hornet]

like if a unit hasnt been clicked or match end screen hasnt been detected in a

selected time

[hallow vapor]

Put this in av testing

See what he replies

[civic hornet]

i got kicked twin

[hallow vapor]

I’ll just invite you back

Who gonna stop me

[civic hornet]

🥺

[mortal sparrow]

How

[civic hornet]

he was crashing out

and i sent a ss of it

[mortal sparrow]

Who

[civic hornet]

inform

[mortal sparrow]

O lmao

[civic hornet]

also it turns out i ws banned not kicked

✌️

[mortal sparrow]

No way he banned ultra

[civic hornet]

🥀

[trail scaffold]

delete ts🥀

[ashen bay]

sybau bro please

delete ts

[cyan cobalt]

ts pmo vro sybau ts ts fr fr!!!

[ashen bay]

bottom 3 takes in terms of td games oat

✌️

[trail scaffold]

and it's not 2 or 3

[cyan cobalt]

ts so true my fellow 14 yos

[civic hornet]

@trail scaffold @ashen bay 🥀

[cosmic lintel]

[ashen bay]

u a bum bro

[cyan cobalt]

🙏 🙏

🔥 💀

[ashen bay]

horrible take

genuinely

[civic hornet]

why edit it from 12 to 14

🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀

[cyan cobalt]

discord false flags i forgot lmao

[ashen bay]

shouldve reported

[civic hornet]

lmao

[ashen bay]

only to get this fuckass thread deleted

[cyan cobalt]

🗣️ 🔊

u so real fo dis

[ashen bay]

my mom doesnt let me leave my pc on at night

plz make more manual friendly

[fickle laurel]

yknow what

[civic hornet]

😭

[fickle laurel]

I think we should pin this suggestion

goated idea

[cosmic lintel]

Ong

[fickle laurel]

I sure hope they add a limit to the half hourly challenge rrs

[trail scaffold]

fr tho this suggestion is so braindead

[fickle laurel]

based suggestion

[trail scaffold]

limiting autochall isnt dumb, but the reasoning is so set 8

[fickle laurel]

It's a good reason wdym

[trail scaffold]

like why does the mango part matter

[fickle laurel]

Because that's the entire reason why it needs a limit lmao

[trail scaffold]

no it needs a limit anyways

[civic hornet]

@cosmic lintel say sm gng

[trail scaffold]

only reason this is a problem is cuz of how many rerrols you get

[cosmic lintel]

I did like twice

[trail scaffold]

if you got half as many rrrs thsi would never be a thread

[fickle laurel]

It needs a limit because of macros

[cosmic lintel]

I’m on word lines while looking at this lol

[civic hornet]

rs

[fickle laurel]

No sane player is reaching the limit if one is in outside of a small handful of sweats

[trail scaffold]

what

[cyan cobalt]

It would, the one and only single reason it exists is due to the disparity between legit and m@cro players
As well as to gauge how many people m@cro and how many people just play
TL;DR: nah it'd exist

[civic hornet]

mango*

[potent cloak]

just say macro

[trail scaffold]

you are saying ts like mango players arent literally benefitting the game

[cosmic lintel]

fudge

[trail scaffold]

the game is pve anwyays

[ashen bay]

the game wouldnt even have half of its playerbase if mangos wouldnt exist

✌️

[civic hornet]

rd

rs

[trail scaffold]

and when pvp gets added they literally said there will be mechanics to counter monarch players

[fickle laurel]

Yes, benefitting the game by making other players feel like they have to also mango just to keep up

[cyan cobalt]

Only in the short term but ig thats how far you guys think in general

[civic hornet]

arx lost like 30k players 4 a while after shutting down servers

cause everyone be afking that shi

[fickle laurel]

And making players that can't feel like shit because they can't. Very benefit.

[cyan cobalt]

thats not even a game though lmao

[trail scaffold]

this thread is just useless tho, it's making a deal out of something that isnt a practical issue

[potent cloak]

theres nothing to do in that game outside of afking😭

[trail scaffold]

"keep up"

wth are you talking about

[civic hornet]

why reply with @ off

[potent cloak]

cuz i can

[cyan cobalt]

since you dont actually play the game ig you wouldnt know leaderboards exist

[civic hornet]

what

[trail scaffold]

bro

this is the most braindead shit ever

[ashen bay]

because so many people are going for leaderboards

[cosmic lintel]

Ngl I wish I had some popcorn fr

[ashen bay]

[trail scaffold]

what about before they added auto challenge bro

[civic hornet]

drink water

[trail scaffold]

issue was even worse

[trail scaffold]

@cyan cobalt

respond to ts

[ashen bay]

ts like saying remove all bundles and gamepasses because if people buy them other people feel the need to buy them too

[keen bane]

hi

[ashen bay]

because the ones that are buying rerolls are gettign monarchs

[civic hornet]

hi

[keen bane]

Wsp gurt

[cyan cobalt]

m@cro still existed yes
what about it

[ashen bay]

and the ones that dont buy them dont

[trail scaffold]

bro look at this thread

[ashen bay]

meow

[keen bane]

Lol i know i sent it in the server yesterday

[tacit atlas]

arf arf

[civic hornet]

hi gerg

[tacit atlas]

wsp

[trail scaffold]

the issue was even bigger without auto chall rework, the change actually benefitted it and made it more close between p2w players and f2p players

[civic hornet]

how u feeling abt chem

[tacit atlas]

ill revise sunday

[trail scaffold]

yo whats this tag

[tacit atlas]

itll be fine

[civic hornet]

gaza shit innit

[tacit atlas]

idk

[civic hornet]

🥀

[trail scaffold]

@cyan cobalt respond

[tacit atlas]

someone translate it for me

[mortal sparrow]

Bin laden

[tacit atlas]

holy racist 🥀

[ashen bay]

i feel the need to buy rerolls because people who buy rerolls have better traits than me

[trail scaffold]

bro

[ashen bay]

[olive hollow]

word lines?

[mortal sparrow]

[olive hollow]

[mortal sparrow]

Jk

[civic hornet]

unlimited rrs claim incident

[mortal sparrow]

I WAS JOKING

[cyan cobalt]

it just made m@cro players completely beat out f2ps

[civic hornet]

why are there so many mfs named xon

i cant ping this guy

[trail scaffold]

bro f2p are mango players aswell what

[ashen bay]

why wouldnt mango players be f2p?

huh?

[trail scaffold]

they dont contradict eachother

[civic hornet]

@corazxon

he aint here

🥀

[cyan cobalt]

they are f2p, but they arent legit, its a tier of its own

[mortal sparrow]

Rip

[civic hornet]

🥀

[trail scaffold]

and then again, now atleasst tthere IS a difference, before it was only for p2w

[trail scaffold]

we cant be serious🥀

[civic hornet]

stevo mogs

[tacit atlas]

whats this thread even about

someone reply to the top msg

[mortal sparrow]

Ok then what’s the difference between a f2p mangoer and p2w one

[tacit atlas]

im on mobile and i cba to scroll

[mortal sparrow]

Limit half hourly challenges cuz mango too op

[cyan cobalt]

One is f2p one is p2w...

[potent cloak]

its about putting a limit on how many half hourly challenges you can do daily

[tacit atlas]

yeah ts 🔥

[civic hornet]

we fucking up

[mortal sparrow]

U just said mangoers r there own tier

[tacit atlas]

we can read idiot

[civic hornet]

sybau

[civic hornet]

f2p btw

[silver cedar]

thank god I have to redo my run the 3rd time

[civic hornet]

rs

[tacit atlas]

js a lil op

[trail scaffold]

@cyan cobalt respond gang

[mortal sparrow]

U sure about that

[fickle laurel]

I think the term you're looking for is "casual," rather than f2p

[mortal sparrow]

U literally have all the skins

[civic hornet]

its only 0.1% twin

[cyan cobalt]

Just think, its not that hard

[trail scaffold]

@cyan cobalt even in inf deadeye and ethereal is the meta now

[fickle laurel]

dawg why are you so obsessed with pinging him to respond 😭

[trail scaffold]

deadeye IS better than monarch and eth in inf right now cuz of birb

like bro what

[mortal sparrow]

No Mon is better cuz birb on Dante

[civic hornet]

ts like when u were arguing w that guy abt like wildlife survival

[tacit atlas]

@cyan cobalt respond

oh

ur typing

nvm

[cyan cobalt]

cz ts fire!! 🙏 🔥

[trail scaffold]

cuz i genuinely cant imagine why he even made this thread

[tacit atlas]

why are you dodging

[trail scaffold]

it's like hes simply jealous

[fickle laurel]

Because the challenges should have a limit

[mortal sparrow]

He’s salty about not being able to mango

[fickle laurel]

And they were actually supposed to

[civic hornet]

me when im trying to act like an unbothered queen! 🤩🤩🤩

[fickle laurel]

But either it never worked or it broke at some point

[silver cedar]

some total dps dont add up

[tacit atlas]

cap

🤦‍♂️

[fickle laurel]

How is it cap

It's literally just true

[civic hornet]

rip comp server

[trail scaffold]

serious question

[tacit atlas]

the easiest thing to cod* is a limit

[trail scaffold]

do testers actually test?

[mortal sparrow]

Rip

[trail scaffold]

they literally got bounties like what

[fickle laurel]

Yes?

[civic hornet]

inf dmg incident

lmao

[trail scaffold]

ight just wanted to know

[civic hornet]

inf freeze incident

[cyan cobalt]

I don't really see why I should be bothered, no arguments are being made you're just being gen alpha and gen beta
Either way, no point, so I'm not really gonna respond anymore

[civic hornet]

inf gems incident

[trail scaffold]

[fickle laurel]

Like shit breaks all the time on updates that worked fine before

[trail scaffold]

this how you know you said sum braindead shit

[mortal sparrow]

Cid nuke still bugged to this day

[fickle laurel]

Or things that weren't even touched will somehow break

[civic hornet]

wtf is gen beta

🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀

why we on beta alr

[fickle laurel]

sometimes we just have reports sitting for a while

[civic hornet]

🥀🥀🥀🥀

[trail scaffold]

fr that aint even happened yet i swear

[tacit atlas]

making up words

[silver cedar]

next gen should be named Bbg

[civic hornet]

what

[silver cedar]

they're my baby guys/girl

[mortal sparrow]

Cuz u lost the argument 😭

[civic hornet]

super senior max🤟

wtf is ts twin

[cosmic lintel]

I accidentally spaced it…

[weary gazelle]

We fixing rerolls (not needed) but not fixing people accounts being over lvl 1000

🤦‍♂️

Now tournament trait is gonna be about who buys more rerolls again

[cosmic lintel]

[fickle laurel]

I mean, who cares if they're over level 1000, there's nothing to gain from that

[weary gazelle]

still, and also odyssey scale being crazy on the boss room, ishtar 100$ skin not working, some odyssey cards not working

[fickle laurel]

I mean the odyssey scaling is just exponential, so high intensity is going to be stupid. I don't know what cards don't work other than limit break, which has had reports for it. Same with the ishtar skin.

[weary gazelle]

Ishtar skin released so much time ago tho and ever since its release it never got fixed, i mean its just an image not loading idk if it can be that hard

[fickle laurel]

Might be. Might not be. It also might just not be as high priority as well. I have absolutely no idea.

Though chances are the report for the ishtar skin is marked as low priority, I'd have to look again. It's a purely visual thing, so it'll never be higher than low, unfortunately

[civic hornet]

updating the game to give esdeath a rack is indeed high priority

[fickle laurel]

😭

[keen bane]

i don’t get why they would limit rrs

speaks for itself

[weary gazelle]

Doing anything but fixing serious and annoying bugs

Forgetting we get 9-10 units per update

How are we even supposted to grind rerolls for these units

But ig we cant do nothing about it

[sleek pecan]

if you think you need monarch for every single unit you have youre just dumb

[weary gazelle]

Its preference?

I dont like ethereal

[sleek pecan]

and we literally got a grand total of THREE units

this update

[weary gazelle]

I dont like placing 3 units everytime for me its just boring

[sleek pecan]

TWO units

4.5

[olive hollow]

me when there already is a limit lol

[weary gazelle]

this is the first time

[weary gazelle]

They fixed it ?

[sleek pecan]

4.5? 1.5?

3.5?

[olive hollow]

no its supposed to be there tho

[weary gazelle]

Dandadan had 4 units

btw im talking about .0 updates

[pine peak]

me when buu took 6

[sleek pecan]

meant 1.75

1.1

0.5

[cyan cobalt]

In case you missed it, I remember talking with NetherResonant and Challenges might eventually get difficulty multipliers which would also affect loot
So whenever that's implemented, more rerolls!

[weary gazelle]

why we talking about when the game was bad

with older devs

[sleek pecan]

literally 3.5 and 4.5 have the same amount of units

[weary gazelle]

who is nether

[cyan cobalt]

Uryu guy

[weary gazelle]

I didnt follow the entire discussion

[cyan cobalt]

Yea no worries, I just thought it's good to know
Hopefully said difficulty options also spice up the gameplay part of it besides increasing the rewards

Who knows when they actually get to it though...

[weary gazelle]

still, my point is that pre rework challenge the game was so boring for me, cuz i was using gojo sukuna akaza ( these 3 monarch) for years

Since update 1

[weary gazelle]

till update 5

[weary gazelle]

Oh lol

[cyan cobalt]

forever stuck as the Uryu guy for me

[fickle laurel]

It’s true

[rough spade]

3 units in 4.5

[fickle laurel]

Then people stopped slandering uryu

[weary gazelle]

what even was 4.5?

im dumb

i dont remember the theme

[rough spade]

solo leveling part 2

[weary gazelle]

oh right

[rough spade]

we got choi vsjw and frieren

[weary gazelle]

Fate part 3 when

[sleek pecan]

yeah my point was that there really isnt 8-9 units being released per update

lol

[fickle laurel]

Don’t say that or kazi will appear

[sleek pecan]

much less who actually warrant getting a monarch on

[weary gazelle]

i was talking about normal updates

[sleek pecan]

brother

[fickle laurel]

Tbh it’s better that way though

[sleek pecan]

you dont need monarch

[weary gazelle]

.5 updates never had good units

[rough spade]

shouldnt be expecting 8-9 units on an x.5 upd

[weary gazelle]

never

[sleek pecan]

on mr satan

[weary gazelle]

only vsjw

[fickle laurel]

Allows for more diversity in kits and keeps the pool of units from bloating too quickly

[sleek pecan]

the original convo started bc this yamil guy said we "needed" the current amount of rr because of the volume of units theyre releasing per update

[olive hollow]

3.5?

[sleek pecan]

and i said thats not the case

[cyan cobalt]

Higher quality but less units is good for f2p as well, less rerolls to spend
Actually for everyone, what am I even saying
Edit: less stats and evo items to farm as well, more time for other in-game content

[weary gazelle]

Not units that i would use

i dont like debuff units

[rough spade]

tengen was top 3 unit when he released

[olive hollow]

yeah but the statement of x.5 units having bad units is simply untrue

[weary gazelle]

Ye

[weary gazelle]

Im talking about my experience i never used those .5 updates units other than demon slayer and cid raid

[fickle laurel]

Choy, VSJW, Cid, Katakuri, Salter, Esdeath,

Like they’re all really good units

[weary gazelle]

Vsjw cid kata

i dont like the rest

[olive hollow]

"i don;t like" does not make them bad units

[fickle laurel]

That doesn’t mean they aren’t good

[olive hollow]

😭

[keen bane]

gonna be stuck with my current monarchs

[weary gazelle]

There are better options

[fickle laurel]

Esdeath and vergil is like one of the strongest combos in the game

[olive hollow]

still good units lol

[keen bane]

i’ve been mango for the past day there’s not a limit

[olive hollow]

its bugged

currently

iirc

[keen bane]

sure

[fickle laurel]

I have no idea if the limit did work initially or not

I don’t remember anymore

But it’s supposed to be there

Also salter is still a crazy good dps, but you need Sakura for that. And Dante to really push the limits

[fickle harbor]

Reading through this thread

I think there should be a limit but I really don’t think it’ll make a difference

[silver cedar]

will depend on luck at the end of the day

hitting 2500 pity aint something to be proud about

ur just one unlucky mf

[fickle harbor]

Most people don’t even get near 1k tbh

Most I’ve seen someone go is 2.3k

[silver cedar]

saw a guy that hit a pity on buu, which he paid full robux for 2500 rrs

miserable man ngl

[fickle harbor]

Was it nagblox?

[silver cedar]

i think

[fickle laurel]

That’s kinda the main reason why pity exists. It’s miserable but imagine spending the robux on 3, 4, even 5k rerolls and just being the unluckiest person alive

[silver cedar]

type shii fr

[fickle laurel]

It wasn’t really designed for the grinding of rerolls considering I imagine it was added long before rerolls were anywhere near as farmable as they are now

[tacit stag]

yea

[mortal sparrow]

Well that’s just bad game design thank god we have mangos to fix that

[tacit stag]

imagine not hitting the guaranteed chance twice

[fickle laurel]

Hitting pity without spending money before was just completely infeasible before the next update would drop

[fickle laurel]

How is it bad game design?

[tacit stag]

actual pain

[fickle laurel]

Originally you weren’t meant to hit pity unless you were spending money. That was the point as a last ditch failsafe

[mortal sparrow]

Pity only being reserved for people who spend literal thousands of dollars is stupid

[fickle laurel]

[silver cedar]

thats why its called pity

bc the game pities u

[fickle laurel]

Considering when it was probably added

[mortal sparrow]

Ye but imagine someone right

[fickle laurel]

That was literally the only way to hit pity

[mortal sparrow]

Who started at release

And was f2p

[fickle laurel]

Okay

[mortal sparrow]

Without mangoing

[fickle laurel]

Mhm

[mortal sparrow]

Any unit that they get Mon pity on would be literal trash by the time they get it

[fickle laurel]

Wow

[silver cedar]

they're just unlucky fr fr

[fickle laurel]

It’s almost like

[silver cedar]

lucky issue

[fickle laurel]

They weren’t intended to hit pity

[mortal sparrow]

That’s not even pity it’s just rubbing salt in the wound

[fickle laurel]

And traits at the end of the day were just a luck show or a wallet flex

[silver cedar]

no but if they did, its literally just luck issue for hitting pity as f2p and no mango

its literally just miserable

[fickle laurel]

Well yeah. But if they were spending that many on a single unit

With how scarce rerolls were before

That’s just poor decision making and unfortunate luck

[mortal sparrow]

Which is why it’s bad game design

[silver cedar]

not really poor deciscion making???

bc its literally just bad luck

[mortal sparrow]

Like with mangos at least u can hit Mon pity in like a month

[fickle laurel]

Well yes, but if a unit has fallen out of meta by the time they’ve acquired that many rrs and they’re still rolling on it

[mortal sparrow]

Which I think is completely reasonable

[silver cedar]

bc it's more logical to rr on that unit bc u already rolled on it before

[fickle laurel]

You can do it in like a week right now

[mortal sparrow]

No?

[fickle harbor]

Prob not a month

[silver cedar]

its just bad luck

[tacit stag]

how

[fickle harbor]

I’d say 2 weeks if you really grind

[silver cedar]

which does suck

[mortal sparrow]

~3 weeks

[grand loom]

misinformation goes wild

even if u mango 24/7 that's not possible either

[tacit stag]

you get like 600 in a week full on grinding

[grand loom]

if we had old odyssey then yeah it wouldve been possible

but they nerfed it

[silver cedar]

w statement from u