Half Hourly limit

[cyan cobalt]

I definitely got past it, though wish we could actually check max intensity reached because I have no proof

[silver cedar]

bc u have to do twice as much stages for 100

like im saying manual labor for rrs

[solid roost]

Boss floor 3

Anything upto boss floor 1 is tremendously easy

Post that it scales like crazy

[cyan cobalt]

Though, I do get all the Secret/Vanguard cards so maybe it really is just luck
Wish it was in my traits instead...

[silver cedar]

ye there's too much rng in play

[solid roost]

1 hour of farming that shitty mode for like 3 of the shard that you actually care about

No clue what they're trying to do with familiars

[silver cedar]

TYPE SHII

and u roll onto something unlucky

[solid roost]

Please ask the guy balancing familiar to remain sober next time

[silver cedar]

like 4 negatives

[sleek pecan]

Idk they just wont borrow ideas from what works

Especially when they want to stick to 4 week update cycles

[silver cedar]

we better just have odyssey daily once thrice a day with actual good cards that actually makes a difference

which gives minimal but all rewards

oh brb rifts

[solid roost]

Why are you still doing rifts 😭

[cyan cobalt]

93 / (5/2) = 37.2
37.2×200 = 7440 Intensity??
I don't think I took 200 Intensity every time though

Oh wait boss room gives 5 cards too

[solid roost]

Yeah

[cyan cobalt]

Also its too bad cashing out doesnt display how much you got

it just teleport you back

im pretty sure i got 17+ of each shard and like 2.9k gems

[sleek pecan]

Idk why they randomly decided to give just some of the cards icons

[cyan cobalt]

its really jarring, the Essence Collector one looks like a common card because the skull is so grey and no other legendary card has an icon lmao

if they all had icons it'd be cool though

also why the new ui designer removed the scrolling frame

2k messages reached, in less than 24 hours
Not bad

[sinful moon]

Did Odyssey rrs and Boss rush got literally removed?

lol

i need to read update logs with more attention

[cyan cobalt]

Apparently you can still get 10 rerolls from Odyssey weekly, I wasnt sure what the upper limit was but afaik the re-farmable one is removed fully

[sinful moon]

it got removed in update 5.5?

or its a recent change

[cyan cobalt]

removed along with the new odyssey, not sure when that came out in terms of x.x

[sinful moon]

im really not aware of it

[sinful moon]

the new odyssey was deleted too?

[cyan cobalt]

no i mean the trait rewards were removed at the same time as the new odyssey came out

[sinful moon]

oh ok

i noticed that in boss rush the elite mode was missing out

but first i saw i was thinking it was a private server thing

but ngl boss rush isnt competitive at all, was just try harder

trait rrs is still here

[cyan cobalt]

It could have definitely benefitted from being given some more changes like the new tourneys

[cyan cobalt]

you dont get it from the end-pulls

its only the weekly sum

[sinful moon]

the cash out thing never gave rrs i think

[cyan cobalt]

yes

[silver cedar]

its for phoenix and corruption shards at this point

ur better off waiting for challenge or do milestones once

[tropic shuttle]

No we’re good

Id just like to point out that people are gonna find ways to get this shit anyway

There’s literally no point to limiting the rerolls one can get

[cyan cobalt]

At least read the post
Doesnt matter how large the mango creators cranium is, they can't get past a daily completion limit

[olive hollow]

Well

There is a daily completion limit

16 or something like that

[cyan cobalt]

When was that put in place though?

Don't you mean the ones Uryu and the other tester talked about yesterday

[olive hollow]

Yeah

I forgor

I just know that it exists

[cyan cobalt]

Guess I either received outdated info or.. no clue. I'll have to test it

[sturdy zodiac]

Is there? I saw a guy that ran the mango for 82 hours

[cyan cobalt]

I also know someone who runs it on the weekends, so that's why I'm a bit confused by this info

[high trail]

You use it too dude, stop shitting around, you only defend whats on your interest. No limited units but double of the rerolls for mangos than any player can 🥀

[tacit stag]

doesnt work for me

[tropic shuttle]

This is just not something they should waste their time on

Its that simple

[high trail]

Not waste their time? Its a change that could take at max 10 minutes.

[tropic shuttle]

Someone getting more rerolls does not affect another person, it does not ruin the game

If it isn’t broke, don’t try to fix it

[high trail]

Loool

[tropic shuttle]

And then they’d have to deal with the backlash

Its simply not worth it

[high trail]

Then give the other persons a more feasible way to get closer to that amount of rerolls

That mangos can do

[tropic shuttle]

You also heavily overestimate the ratio of players who actually mango the challenges

[high trail]

Its quite a lot... trust me

[tropic shuttle]

Realistically its no more than a fifth of players at best

[high trail]

The only thing u need is a 1080 screen

And a non laggy pc

[tropic shuttle]

Also, hold on, hear me out for a sec

[sturdy zodiac]

Do you perchance play on mobile

[tropic shuttle]

Why would they change this? It gets people to stay on the game longer, they make more money

[high trail]

No

[tropic shuttle]

Why would they make a change resulting in them making LESS money

Because SOME people aren’t happy?

Like yall still gonna play the game even if some people mango

[high trail]

And the same could be said about limited units

Yet you made a suggestion for that

[tropic shuttle]

Oh? So now you’re gonna redirect the conversation because I made a damn valid point?

“Damn thats interesting but lets look at something else”

[frozen oasis]

hey

instead of arguing lets play elemental warzone

challenge rrs should have a limit tho aswell as an alternative to getting the rrs n the alternative should be an engaging mode such as pvp

[weary gazelle]

Not everybody enjoy playing pvp against other people

maybe someone like playing chill

Pvp should be something u want to do , not something to farm rerolls

[frozen oasis]

does anyone enjoy playing challenges just for rrs? also pvp was an example bc it looks like an engaging mode

[weary gazelle]

but challenge is not something skill based

[frozen oasis]

its also not fun

pvp looks fun

if they add more

[signal spear]

Yea tournaments and lb don't depend on other players right

[weary gazelle]

im not saying pvp its bad, im saying that it shouldnt be all around the rewards it gives

A ranked gamemode maybe yes

but limiting challenges to force u play ranked pvp is a bad idea

[frozen oasis]

it was an example

odyssey cant be the rr method bc it can be mangoabke atm

[weary gazelle]

Odyssey with mango?

[frozen oasis]

its plausible

[weary gazelle]

Its almost impossible for every player to mango it, plus there are not mangos for it

u need 2 good teams with good traits to play it

[signal spear]

Its definitely possible

Once you get enough buffs

[weary gazelle]

Buffs are RNG

[signal spear]

And just stay on 2k intensity

[frozen oasis]

a good amount of ppl meet fhat req

[signal spear]

Yea play manually first for like an hour

And after that you could mango

[weary gazelle]

Also from what i played on odyssey

2k intensity

0 rerolls

idk if its just me

i didnt get shi

nvm actually it was 1k

[frozen oasis]

u get rrs weekly

not sure how it works tho

[weary gazelle]

i lost on 1.2k intensity, Shit was crazy lemme send a pic

[weary gazelle]

A bug hunter told me its a bug and not intended

for the bosses to be this crazy

[frozen oasis]

ive seen sum1 beat a 4b+ hp boss

[fickle laurel]

Correct. Intensity scales exponentially. So the higher you go, the higher the hp ramps

Also the 10 rrs are a weekly reward for hitting floor 13

Although spawning all the same boss was a bug

[timid path]

Man I get it but they aint gonna make it unmangoable. Its just too good for the player count. Its unfair but thats why traitless gamemodes exist

[cyan cobalt]

even then, they could at least condense the half hourlies down so manual players can finish it in a day and mango players dont have to leave their computer running constantly

[timid path]

Yeah that I can agree with

[raven haven]

L this suggestion

who plays av

like do u actually sit and wait every 30mins

like do u get fun grinding those over and over again

u don't have school/work?

js say u don't have a pc to mango 🙏

[cyan cobalt]

🤪

I have it built into my keyboard dumbass

[raven haven]

ok then go mango and stfu

[cyan cobalt]

how about you actually do literally anything
Do you need your lil ai chatbot to write a response for you?

[raven haven]

also ur suggestion not going to stop mango it will just limit the amount

[cyan cobalt]

yea?? the amount that you cant reach as a human

[raven haven]

what

they attacking me now while dude getting 56 L's in his suggestion 🙏

he saying some chit about ai bot that idk what the fuck he is saying

[cyan cobalt]

As it should? its a fucking vote 😂

Here, this genre fits you perfectly!

[high trail]

And he also got 70 people supporting him

[raven haven]

so yall just don't wanna mango

and sit there and play av

for 1 rr per 30 mins

to get vigor 1 on ur fav unit

[keen bane]

i just got done playing a few hours of odyssey, i usually mango but i reminded myself why i don’t play manually

[raven haven]

ye fr it's fits you as described

[keen bane]

odyssey just a RNG game mode

nothing else to do once you’re endgame

[cyan cobalt]

Do you not have the ability to read

[raven haven]

ok we have funnier/more challengy game modes that u can play BUT they got limited rrs

like dungeons

rifts

raids

after a while it dies because u will finish the rrs from it and got nothing else to actually play in av

[weary gazelle]

Nobody want a nerf on challenges

lets be real

its a game not a job

[raven haven]

yes

[keen bane]

already completed this

[weary gazelle]

if u want less rrs play aa

[keen bane]

completed this

[raven haven]

lmfao

[raven haven]

tell them

[weary gazelle]

U can spend 3 entire weeks 24h/24h grinding rrs and still not get monarch btw

so why we want a nerf

[keen bane]

nothing else to do endgame but mango

[keen bane]

salty mobile players

[cyan cobalt]

right, the people running m@cro 24/7 are totally the ones not doing it like a job

[raven haven]

yes as i said end game after u finish the hard game modes rrs or units after u obtain these stuff u will basically have nothing else to do other than getting rrs to get monarch on ur units right?

[weary gazelle]

Literally not a job? u can just run an rdp , while using ur pc

If u dont play nothing on roblox u can just let it grind

[keen bane]

pretty much , getting monarchs is the new endgame

[weary gazelle]

Yea

[keen bane]

av has no endgame content that is grindable

[sturdy zodiac]

How does this do anything to you it’s not like it’s harming you people are farming rrs

[raven haven]

BRO just install mango and play it it's not that hard 🙏 ur suggestion as i said won't even stop mango

[cyan cobalt]

comp

[raven haven]

ppl will just mango till limit ig??

[sturdy zodiac]

Like tournaments?

[cyan cobalt]

it reduces the difference between players and m@cros users by a massive amount

[weary gazelle]

Also monarch should not be a special thing anymore ngl, u shouldnt get one per year, its right as it is right now

[keen bane]

if they stop mango they’re gonna lose a lot of players

[cyan cobalt]

it won't stop m@cro

it will only make m@cro mostly equal to a human player

[keen bane]

fr tho on AA i had one unique and spent way more

[raven haven]

so u will play 24 games avg game is 5-6mins if not land of gods for 1 rr per game

[keen bane]

i didn’t buy my mango to play like a mobile player

👎 👎 👎

[high trail]

Lmaooo, you buy that shit

Fu king clown

[sturdy zodiac]

You had to buy yours???

[keen bane]

fucking

[weary gazelle]

i had 2 on aa, and i got these 2 recently, i was fucking lvl 220 with many battlepass and getting only 2 uniques is so bad

[raven haven]

he saves time??

he can have life?

if u heard about it

[keen bane]

yes

[keen bane]

if you’re broke just say it ❤️

[weary gazelle]

ur so jealous

[high trail]

Its free if you look good enough

[raven haven]

they probably are

[cyan cobalt]

actually spending money to automatize it is insane
Just quit if its that unfun

[raven haven]

i already using free one

[sturdy zodiac]

He could of just ate salmons with mangos

[keen bane]

now people hate the fact that AV is actually generous

[raven haven]

but saying paid one must be better

[weary gazelle]

he need to ask his parents to get money, of course they aint giving him 30$

[raven haven]

paid ones most of the time is better for ur info

me my self using salmon but still

if i got chance to pay fuck imna pay

[high trail]

Jealous for what? I can do that for free

[keen bane]

why would i quit lmao

if you get staff it’s free

so

hey

[keen bane]

guy over here self projecting , saddening to see

[raven haven]

he might be working yk

or even if he asks his parents for money what is the shame on this?

[cyan cobalt]

you could have spent that money buying a game you'll actually enjoy

[raven haven]

like should he ask his uncle or neighbors or strangers or ???

[cyan cobalt]

i wont tell you what to spend it on but damn lol

[fickle laurel]

Spending money on a mango:
Spending money on a real, juicy mango fresh from the store:

[weary gazelle]

i mean he's just getting mad for no reason cuz u spent money on what u want

[keen bane]

you don’t realize the payback is way better than spending money on rrs

[fickle laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-luffy-gif-25489523

[raven haven]

ik someone who got a spare laptop that he isn't using it anymore and he uses it to mango on av and bro mangos for a whole week he even sent his webhook thing and he got 631 rrs

[sturdy zodiac]

I’m ngl most of the games I’ve had the most fun on are free

[cyan cobalt]

not what im saying but yes the return is magnitudes more

[rough spade]

holy shit you guys disagreeing with this suggestion rn are acc idiots 😭 🙏🏿

[high trail]

I saw you putting an x on it

[weary gazelle]

giving a limit on free rerolls is just dumb

[keen bane]

it’s not that i have to spend money to enjoy it, but spending the little $6 a month greatly reduces the time spent grinding

[weary gazelle]

first time i see people complaining about free stuff

[fickle laurel]

It's not though?

[rough spade]

like i dont entirely agree with this suggestion but you guys arguing rn are so dumb 💀

[keen bane]

if they give a limit on rrs then wouldn’t it be fair if they did that for everything else as well

[raven haven]

it is indeed dumb

[keen bane]

and what are you

[fickle laurel]

the fact that there's no limit aside from the timer it takes to refresh means that mangos create such a wide gap for no reason.

[weary gazelle]

Why are we complaining on av being generous? i mean AA is still there if u want 10 reroll per day

[rough spade]

i only downvoted the suggestion bc devs like premium payouts and i like getting monarchs ✌️

[fickle laurel]

There should be a limit on the daily challenge rerolls

[keen bane]

bro that’s all tower defense games are

lmao

[fickle laurel]

It's not about being generous

[raven haven]

remember av when it was 3k players before challenges rework btw ✌️

now it's avg 50k daily

[cyan cobalt]

the one way both sides could win is if they just condensed down the current hh's to 1/3rd max per day (8 hours, 16 completions), and tripled the rewards, so the total RRs is the same but regular players can also achieve it without dying of sleep depravation

[rough spade]

challenge rework did not save av gng just sybau

[fickle laurel]

It's about the fact that mangos create a gamestate where it feels like other players are forced to use them to keep up

[raven haven]

you sybau lmfao

[sturdy zodiac]

I mean ig it softens the gap but out of every mango player there is like 0.1 percent people running it 24-80 hours in 1 sitting anyways

[rough spade]

at least i am not an idiot

[raven haven]

because ur game owners made monarch almost non believable and with new tournaments around?? fuck yes yall actually forcing IT

[rough spade]

anyone with more than 2 brain cells can understand that changing challenges did not revive this game 💀

[keen bane]

you literally have to

crying

[fickle laurel]

You don't?

Like at all?

[keen bane]

if you want to keep your sanity then you do

[fickle laurel]

And that monarch is only necessary if you're trying to do traited tournaments?

[raven haven]

you have to lmfao??? the new tournaments forcing ur ass to roll on ass cheecks unit

[keen bane]

not spending hours grinding cid when my pc can just automatically do it

[fickle laurel]

And content is completely fine to do without monarch

[raven haven]

beside that a pity avging 2.5k rrs???

[fickle laurel]

so then play traitless gang

[raven haven]

so even if u mango 24/7 u need clean 5 weeks of non stop mango

to get 1 monarch pity

[keen bane]

monarch is the only thing to get end game

[sturdy zodiac]

You lowkey right but monarchs just make life so much easier

[fickle laurel]

Well yeah

Because the entire game revolves around resource management

And anything that gives you a shortcut on that

i.e monarch's cost efficiency

Is going to be broken

[weary gazelle]

ye and we get 8-9 units per month, what if u want to use one of these with monarch? u just cant if they nerf challenge, before the challenge rework, i was stuck with gojo and sukuna monarch from fucking update 1, it was so annoying to keep using the same old units every time, without ever trying new units

[sturdy zodiac]

Like I complete cid raid act 2 in around 6 minutes and people complete like 10-15 the difference is massive

[fickle laurel]

I think challenge rerolls should be limited to 12 a day

[weary gazelle]

Wild

[keen bane]

good luck

[raven haven]

i don't even think devs will actually limit half hourly challenges because it's js dumb idea and they already don't reset other game modes shops beside boss rush like wtf??

[high trail]

Actually good take

[weary gazelle]

AA is free

[fickle laurel]

It's very achievable for casual players

[raven haven]

aa is free

[high trail]

Als is free bro

[fickle laurel]

and doesn't let the mango farmers get so much farther ahead

[weary gazelle]

12 rerolls with a 0.1 chance of getting monarch and a 2500 pity

[cyan cobalt]

Our of curosity since so many m@cros supporters are present, would you still m@cros if rates were like, lets say 10x higher?
Is it just the shit chances (1.5% choy, 20 min dungeon...) that make you feel like "yea im just gonna automate this"?

[sturdy zodiac]

Don’t compare this to aa bro that game actually gives nothing

[raven haven]

als is another thing u can get like 1k+ rrs per day wtf ✌️

[grand loom]

bro what?

legit players can also do 12 a day

[fickle laurel]

Yes

[grand loom]

12 is just way too low man

[fickle laurel]

That's

That's the point

[grand loom]

that's not helping against the

[weary gazelle]

Bro said 12 rerolls per day its the same thing

[grand loom]

no it isnt

[keen bane]

probably not , that’s the reason people who use mango actually use it. because the rates are horrendous

[raven haven]

people made because u can get 48 rrs per day if u mango ✌️

[grand loom]

so u want nerf legit players when it

it's not their fault?

or never was

[fickle laurel]

It's just a cap that is very achievable

[sturdy zodiac]

You forgot bounties and inf quest tho

[weary gazelle]

Infinite quests in the big 2025

[fickle laurel]

and leaves very little room for a gap between mangos and nons

[weary gazelle]

3 rerolls per 1 hour and 30 minutes

Nice

[sturdy zodiac]

it’s in the mango btw

[weary gazelle]

exactly

the mango

not me losing 1 hour and 30 minutes

[raven haven]

it's not even for normal players still u will still gotta play 24 games each game avging 5-6 mins u think it's achieveable? sure if u don't shower or got a life still

[sturdy zodiac]

Bro it goes to wave 10 and reset max it takes is 30 minutes

[cyan cobalt]

I really wish the devs would do an official poll to see how many people would stop using m@cros with better rates, cause I do feel like most of you guys just want achievable goals instead of weeks of failure
At least, thats my cope hopium

[fickle laurel]

You know you don't have to be playing the game the entire time, right

[weary gazelle]

U think imma do allat for 3 rerolls?

[sturdy zodiac]

30-45 and that is in downtime of challenge

[fickle laurel]

Like you can just take a break and check in a half hour later

as is the point with challenges

[sturdy zodiac]

What are you doing in the meantime then

[raven haven]

and you know we are in the av server right? and i don't want to sit near my pc to play av all day js to get vigor 1 on aizen after playing repetitive boring games that will end me up with 1 rr per win

[weary gazelle]

surely not spending 30 minutes staying afk on a mode for 3 rerolls

[grand loom]

not only that it's too low, but the fact that you're willing to go beyond its limits just to punish legit players for absolutely no reason when they had nothing to do with this

[sturdy zodiac]

Nah this some mean ragebait good job bro

[keen bane]

idk what tagged but

[raven haven]

ed.g i think

[keen bane]

bruh

😭

[fickle laurel]

It's almost like traits are just rng and the main bulk of the game isn't monarch reliant and it's really just traited tournament lbs

[weary gazelle]

people be saying ragebait on everything now, just say u dont know what to say

[raven haven]

but it's the end game??? hello?

[silver cedar]

what did i miss

tldr rq

[fickle laurel]

And if you feel the need to "roll on a buns unit for tournament," that's on you

[sturdy zodiac]

brother you are sleeping why do you care about the time you are spending to get rrs

[fickle laurel]

You could just... Not play that tournament, idk

[keen bane]

@fickle laurel thinks rrs should limited to 12 a day

[raven haven]

sure here is another rrs source wasted after limiting challenges

[high trail]

Half hourly challenge warzone between mango and legit players

[silver cedar]

16 is fine

then everyone can sleep for 8 hours

[fickle laurel]

Y'all put too much value on those

[keen bane]

mangos have been a thing since the game first came out so this is nothing new

[fickle laurel]

16's fine too, yeah

[silver cedar]

[high trail]

Agreed

[keen bane]

i remember people doing hundreds of runs for igris and not getting him , that alone is the reason people mango

[fickle laurel]

12 was just kinda a lowball number I threw out

[raven haven]

12 rrs per day?

[sturdy zodiac]

@weary gazelle do you wake up every 30 minutes perchance?

[raven haven]

😂

[grand loom]

Tourneys arent rng

[keen bane]

if av ever adds this ill never touch the game again

[grand loom]

all of the bosses are the same

[keen bane]

💔

[weary gazelle]

tf are u even saying

are u dumb?

u were talking about infinite quest?

[raven haven]

Dawg monarch pity better be 500 if they make it 12 rrs per day

[fickle laurel]

Yeah but the trait reliance behind traited tourneys is.

[silver cedar]

26 if u count bounties

[grand loom]

No it isnt?

[silver cedar]

not bad at all

[grand loom]

because ur just running the same monarchs

[silver cedar]

then sleep 8 hours like a normal person

[keen bane]

fr tho, cause 12 rrs a day when pity is 2500 just doesn’t add up

[sturdy zodiac]

lol did you even read my other message

[raven haven]

3 rrs 💔 1 rr per 30 mins to reach 50 wave so 1 hour and 30 mins for 3 rrs that's 3 range II 💔

[grand loom]

anything else wont get u a better score if u do not have the required mon

[weary gazelle]

100 rerolls in 4 days with a 0.1 trait and 2500 pity btw

[raven haven]

yes

[fickle laurel]

And how, pray tell, did you get those monarchs, o smartest av player

[grand loom]

sybau

[high trail]

First of all ur not even meant to reach pity

[sturdy zodiac]

It’s in the mango…

[grand loom]

you are

because it is possible

you just dont need to spin

just save it

[keen bane]

do you know how many people have had to hit pity

[fickle laurel]

Pity literally only exists as a last resort for the whales, pretty much 😭

[weary gazelle]

Nagblox hitted it 3 times

Ur supposted to hit it

It can happen

[silver cedar]

why u getting mad for not having 24 rr in a day

[sick swallow]

pity exists for everyone

????

[weary gazelle]

No, its not that rare

[keen bane]

i just thinks it’s dumb if they limit it

[craggy cliff]

i thought they were making challenges global cd

[sick swallow]

ts suggestion pmo

its so stupid

[weary gazelle]

Ye like a monarch isnt hard already

To get

[craggy cliff]

@cyan cobalt

[raven haven]

this is stupid suggetsion js close this post bruh @cyan cobalt

[fickle laurel]

Yeah, because he spent an exorbitant amount of money to be able to hit it

[keen bane]

😭

[weary gazelle]

what does this mean?

[cyan cobalt]

took me 180 runs on legend stage + 30-40 runs in the boss rush... i did get two back-to-back but that was painful
the 0.75% rate really sucked

[fickle laurel]

he spent lots of money

to buy many trait rerolls

[grand loom]

not true

dude

[craggy cliff]

@cyan cobalt

[keen bane]

and imagine players who don’t spend that much money, and rely on mango for rrs

[weary gazelle]

He also mango the challenges

[craggy cliff]

how are you so smart

[raven haven]

america got freedom of speech but bro u need to close ur mouth for some days after this suggestion @cyan cobalt

[craggy cliff]

@cyan cobalt

[keen bane]

see how much worse it is

[craggy cliff]

im so curious

[sick swallow]

ts thread pmo

[craggy cliff]

how are you this smart

this intelligent

[grand loom]

you wont be able to use yehowach for pvp
You wont be able to use Vergil for PvP

[fickle laurel]

and hit pity because the system was there so that people didn't spend thousands of dollars and get no monarch

[grand loom]

VSJW won't be broken for pvp

[craggy cliff]

@cyan cobalt

[sick swallow]

where was ts

[craggy cliff]

please

respond

[halcyon shard]

delete this fucking suggestion

[craggy cliff]

you're so good

you're the best

[weary gazelle]

Delete this suggestion

[grand loom]

ts what?

[craggy cliff]

@cyan cobalt

[weary gazelle]

its so ahh

[keen bane]

not justifying mangos, but these absurd drop rates are the reason people mango in the first place

[sick swallow]

where they said that

[keen bane]

😭 😭

[weary gazelle]

Just say u play on mobile

[raven haven]

then make game playable without monarches and stop hitting us with these 10m hp bosses 💔

[weary gazelle]

and we can understand ur pain

[cyan cobalt]

nah its useful to gauge how many m@cro and legit players there are

[weary gazelle]

but thats it

[craggy cliff]

@cyan cobalt

you're so good bro

[weary gazelle]

nobody like this ahh suggestion

[fickle laurel]

it just might be, you know

[craggy cliff]

how can you do this

[weary gazelle]

its so ahh

[craggy cliff]

like

[halcyon shard]

how did bro think this would be a good idea

delete it

[fickle laurel]

Like the entire game outside of tournaments is playable

[sturdy zodiac]

looks like almost 50-50 rn

[weary gazelle]

cuz he plays on mobile

[grand loom]

i'm talking about like the gamemode itself
there are modifiers that counters those units heavily

[weary gazelle]

there is no other reasons

[fickle laurel]

because tournaments are the place to flex your traits/stats

[grand loom]

ban phases will be a thing for pvp so vergil wont be used

[sick swallow]

where did they show this im asking

[grand loom]

wait

1m rq

[halcyon shard]

stats r useless

[cyan cobalt]

yea its damn close

[halcyon shard]

u can get consistent top 1 with full z+ traitless

[keen bane]

why are we still talking about tournaments as if the same 4 monarchs aren’t recycled every tournament

[halcyon shard]

z+ is very easy to get

[sturdy zodiac]

not to mention flexing birbs and black spirit

[raven haven]

what is even the point if u will not get monarch after finishing story mode???? what is the point of the whole ass game then like the end game??? i told u twice that the end game is getting monarches on ur units aka getting better

[grand loom]

htt ps://discord.com/channels/1205546848035799081/1369847799973281963/1371832469002780712

remove space

[fickle laurel]

Okay go do that with C stats traitless then

[weary gazelle]

Yes im zorutan yes i cant mango yes i do ahh suggestions

[grand loom]

vergil/yehowach/sjw wont be used for pvp

[silver cedar]

this game just has no end game progression without monarch

so ye lol

[halcyon shard]

is still possible really. z+ stats would just give a slightly higher score

[grand loom]

its a 1% difference

which does not matter

[raven haven]

for monarches this 1% is like 5k dmg or sm

maybe higher

[grand loom]

not possible

[halcyon shard]

ye we talkin traitless tho

[cyan cobalt]

i just prefer to actually play when i play, not do a second job against impossible to achieve rates

[grand loom]

2% difference aint doing shit

[weary gazelle]

then code ur game make it ahh with no free things and check how many players it will get

[fickle laurel]

Apparently challenge rrs are supposed to be capped at 20 per day already anyways

[high trail]

YES

[cyan cobalt]

whats not free in AV other than skins and mounts??

[fickle laurel]

I have no idea if it actually works properly or if it broke though

[raven haven]

top 10 ways to lose players ✌️ we are going back to 3k players daily

[fickle laurel]

And if it did it'll probably be back

[grand loom]

then it does not exist

nobody is complaining about this in any of the mango servers

[fickle laurel]

It's not going to kill the game lmao

[silver cedar]

piano emotes

[grand loom]

or talking about it

[fickle laurel]

Dang, if only we cared 🥀

[raven haven]

it will after many people got used to mangos yall late if it happens

[sturdy zodiac]

it broke I just saw a guy a couple days ago with 82 hours run time

[grand loom]

well, you do otherwise why are you so against this?

[fickle laurel]

Because I don't like the gamestate mangos promote.

[raven haven]

u don't realize that after challenges rework 70% of game players now uses mango

[fickle laurel]

70%

Yeah, definitely

[sturdy zodiac]

wait capped at 20 rrs so 10 challenges a day? and 20 on not 2x

[weary gazelle]

Its a tower defense what do u expect ? do u think someone really did vanguard sung jin woo manually?

[silver cedar]

ngl there would be a significant drop in player base if devs suddenly went against mango players, IT SHOULD NEVER EXISTED in the first place.

Now players are used and are expected to do it

[high trail]

Thats probably the percentage of casual players dude

[raven haven]

check #「🌀」portals they all using mango
check #「🐉」boss-rush they all using mango
check #「🔥」raids-dungeons most of them using mango and want leechers same w portals
u just going against something game did and u think will take it away easily without losing players?

[grim shadow]

Erm...

[keen bane]

tower defense games require you to mango for their absurdly low chances on everything

[weary gazelle]

Yes, if it would never been a thing i would be ok, but we are too used, and as its now its perfect

[cyan cobalt]

the local cooldown for challenges probably also promoted m@cro, it really sucks for regular players

[fickle laurel]

...Yes? A lot of people did.

[weary gazelle]

Jobless people

Or bug abuser

[fickle laurel]

That was the entire point

[raven haven]

i am in a mango server that got more members than the actual game player count rn

[weary gazelle]

when quest came out

[fickle laurel]

You weren't supposed to do the entire quest in one sitting

[keen bane]

if a good majority of those people had a choice i think they would play with a mango

[fickle laurel]

You just approached it bit by bit

[weary gazelle]

It still took me 2 entire days

[weary gazelle]

If it was something fun yea

Its afk simulator

u cant deny it

the shadow quests is so lame

[keen bane]

you do realize sjw raid you needed 50 boss kills

3 boss kills is an hour alone

cmon bro

[fickle laurel]

Yeah?

[weary gazelle]

Exactly

[keen bane]

not even including the other quests

[weary gazelle]

its not something FUN

[fickle laurel]

So only do a few kills a day

[weary gazelle]

or even worth the grind

[keen bane]

exactly

[fickle laurel]

Make little steps

[weary gazelle]

cuz u get nothing

[fickle laurel]

progress

[weary gazelle]

other than the kills of the quest

[keen bane]

why when a mango can do it in a day

😭

[fickle laurel]

Unless you wanted to grind tokens/choy

Point being

[keen bane]

you’re proving why mangos are more effective

[olive hollow]

but they want there instant gratification

[cyan cobalt]

but do you really need the no-effort instant grafications?

[fickle laurel]

I don't think "a majority" of players mango'd it like you think

[cyan cobalt]

how the
you future seer

[raven haven]

he is just tryna act like he is that guy

we all know devs ain't limiting shit

[olive hollow]

i can read minds duh

[sturdy zodiac]

im ngl you had to mango if yhou wanted to stay in the meta he was strong meta everything if you didnt have him go next

[keen bane]

i was in the hospital grinding sjw raid manually , 3 kills an hour. never again would i do that sh

[wide crypt]

this suggestion still going at it non stop

[weary gazelle]

My friend who dont mango will never get it , he dont want to do the quest cuz is so boring

[keen bane]

for real

[fickle laurel]

If you were that committed to having a meta team with sjw, you'd have grinded for him

[olive hollow]

so the solution is mangos? and not a rework on that particular system

[keen bane]

i did grind i did 35/50 manually

[weary gazelle]

Vsjw is forced if u wanna be decent

[keen bane]

that’s what i’ve been saying this whole time, tower defense games have absurdly low rates which most players would rather mango

😭

[raven haven]

i did all 50s manually and i found out about mango later after i got vsjw and started looking for portal mangos

[weary gazelle]

otherwise ur gonna struggle

[olive hollow]

oh i thought u were pro mango

[sturdy zodiac]

but you just told us it was meant to get bit by bit because how long the grind is but you needed him to stay in meta

[silver cedar]

same, recently got into it, only for Cid Raid so I'm very recent

[sturdy zodiac]

so if you didnt want us to mango we would of just sat there doing it for hours

[keen bane]

everything in the game requires a mango if you want it ( not actually REQUIRES) but is significantly easier to just use a mango

[raven haven]

and why bro acting like av is the only game with mango in it 💔 als?av? also aa is dead rn if u wanna go play if you really want that limited daily rrs

[keen bane]

i just don’t get the hype against hating mango

[weary gazelle]

AA was the only game with mangos being so limited, infact the game died so quickly

[keen bane]

if you wanted aizen you had to mango

😭

[raven haven]

right that's what i am saying birb and cid 1% chance is crazy without mango and hear me out before any idiot says 3% with nightmare mode u need full monarch team to win it actually and you can see getting monarch is already hard even with mango around

[keen bane]

but AA daily challenge was just horrible

1/5th of a reroll

cmon

[silver cedar]

bc ppl actually spend a lot of time in this game rather ppl getting more shii using mango and doing something else

[cyan cobalt]

its basically the age-old "che@ter VS legit" argument
Some people value getting to a point in the "intended"/"natural" way while others don't care how, they just want the end result

[raven haven]

ur a dumbass

[keen bane]

those people can invest in a laptop and do the same

[raven haven]

imna go pray bro this dude is js dumbass imna come back better find ts closed ✌️

[keen bane]

i just want the end result , i cba to grind for hours staring at a screen

unless the content is engaging

[weary gazelle]

which is not the case

[cyan cobalt]

you have brought up zero arguments other than "i dont like the game so i dont play it" but yet refuse to quit and do something you actually like

[silver cedar]

ye ive been doing nightmare mode, doubled ppicture, dang

[olive hollow]

this is the sad state of Atd games 😮‍💨

[keen bane]

once rell seas releases im just gonna drop tower defense games in general, they requires mangos

[weary gazelle]

ngl td games are boring in general, its just a dead genre on roblox in terms of fun

[raven haven]

yay i like killing bosses 69k times to get 1 rr per time every 30 mins sitting my ass on my pc to end up with vigor 1 on my fav unit 🥰

[cyan cobalt]

i do wish there would be replayable and fun content, but it seems odyssey is still hated by most people
Im somewhat into it, but at this point it just looks like "fun replayable content" is impossible to make
How has it not been done yet otherwise

[olive hollow]

so instead of advocating for change and better you guys are staying contempt with it, you all realize that the game is unfun and yet you continue to support it

[cyan cobalt]

you just repeated "i hate playing the game so fuck everyone else who doesnt"

[viscid pond]

Who even manually plays challenges its boring

[olive hollow]

ig if you really like the game

[raven haven]

is this how ur brain works??

[silver cedar]

only weekend ngl

[keen bane]

i did a few odyssey runs earlier, i have 2 teams full of monarchs and i still died at intensity 2k. Game mode is straight RNG

i’d rather skip

[weary gazelle]

Im only against for challenges cuz its so grindy getting rerolls and not rewarding at all, with the other gamemodes i always did get the rewards by myself, vsjw is the only exception, but like when rengoku was there i only got 1 and without mangos

The trait system in general is bad

[keen bane]

not even that it’s just RNG, the rewards aren’t that good for the time you spend there

[weary gazelle]

i dont like it at all

[fickle laurel]

need full monarch team to win it
chat, are they serious?

[cyan cobalt]

tell me one thing you like in the game

[raven haven]

getting better units and monarch feels good

like because that's the end game

[cyan cobalt]

i guess ive been getting kinda lucky then tbh

[raven haven]

and because roblox is dry

[keen bane]

without monarchs doing act 1 is much more efficient

[silver cedar]

its easier to complete nightmare with full monarchs

[fickle laurel]

Well no shit it's easier

[keen bane]

yeah my loot was horrendous

[silver cedar]

wave 15 then go to the next one

there a huge time diff

[raven haven]

yes on nightmare mode u need like a deadass strong monarch to win or at least monarch aizen which is still a monarch btw that u need tons of rrs to get it

[cyan cobalt]

yea that definitely sucks like, ive gone past the intended max loot but its just more rewarding to cash out at the first boss floor...

[sturdy zodiac]

no you can definitly win without a single monarch just takes alot longer

[fickle laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQtRb_VN-IE

It takes longer, yes

[cyan cobalt]

thats pretty true
ig both sides really just need an actually replayable mode thats fun to do

[raven haven]

you can't bud 💔 and even if u can it will take like 20 mins which doing normal mode even faster will take u like 11/12 mins

[weary gazelle]

but then u will have to follow a tutorial and its boring

[high trail]

Destroyed in seconds

[fickle laurel]

And is probably not worth doing, because it's a raid, you're obviously not supposed to solo it effectively especially without your units being built up

[keen bane]

i don’t hate either sides of this thread , but mangos just make the game much more better ngl

[raven haven]

YES thats the thing av is all about being replayable but in a boring way instead because u win nothing new all u win is 1 rr to gamble on and get nothing at the end after playing 6 mins for it

[keen bane]

summer portals and pvp i will play

[sturdy zodiac]

in the vid above he did it in 15 no traits on 2 of his main dps btw

[fickle laurel]

You could always just use units and use your brain instead. I know it's a foreign concept on occasions

[raven haven]

it deadass scales up w players 🙏

[fickle laurel]

Yeah. Because you have more damage to go around

Imagine that

[weary gazelle]

i never tried with non monarch units so i dont really know about it

i wont talk for it

[fickle laurel]

More units and more damage warrants a bit of extra health

[cyan cobalt]

Yea I see, its been pretty painful to do Cid raids every day with ZERO rewards over the last week in my experience
So I can also mostly understand the m@cro side

[keen bane]

scaling up 2x health for every player isn’t just “a bit”

[raven haven]

idk what he is doing atp

[keen bane]

it’s just much more time efficient in general, also the best familiar in the game comes from CID raid so i did mango that for a few days

[raven haven]

like idk what that dude trying to proof they all say limit challenges then says a point where it self explains why u need to mango

it's stupid imna go

[fickle laurel]

So anyways the 10 hours worth of reroll cap on challenges is gonna get fixed

[cyan cobalt]

that is great
But for the sake of both sides i hope they

make it a bit more like how roguelikes have intensity raising mechanics

so you could increase the rewards

you know what i mean?

that could be fun

possibly

[sturdy zodiac]

40 rrs on 2x not bad tbh

[cyan cobalt]

from all ive read in the past hour it seems like that might encourage a good chunk of players to actually play

[keen bane]

if they limit rerolls they better lower monarch pity too

[fickle laurel]

I think there might be plans down the road

I'm not too certain about it

[viscid pond]

Than we will mango for 12 hours

[keen bane]

🔥

[fickle laurel]

But the raid normal vs nightmare thing seemed to go over well

[cyan cobalt]

it was definitely a lot better than 1.5% choy

[viscid pond]

Actually thats good my pc can rest now

[cyan cobalt]

magnitudes better

[keen bane]

considering the W:L ratio on this suggestion i don’t think limiting rrs is a good idea

[fickle laurel]

yeah that's not happening lol

[keen bane]

went from getting no rrs on aa to getting a good amount on av , now everyone wants it needed

needed

NERFED

[high trail]

Its still something to have in mind because a pretty good chunk of people supports aswell

[cyan cobalt]

if they let us increase the rewards via increasing the difficulty, it could end up being closer or even more rerolls than people got with 24/7 m@cro before
but no clue how they1ll go about it

[fickle laurel]

Imagine that

[cyan cobalt]

i might make a suggestion to get the conversation started

[keen bane]

if they add this then that could resolve the great debate

all the shops in the game that you can get rrs from i have completed so

nothing else to do

[fickle laurel]

Players that mango getting way more materials than they reasonably should be able to and leaving people that actually play in the dirt so they feel forced to also mango to close the gap 🥀

[keen bane]

except maybe unit achievements

[viscid pond]

Yeah fr i got 11 birbs

🤑

[keen bane]

it’s gonna affect all parties if they nerf rrs , people who manually play and people who mango

[fickle laurel]

Not really

[silver cedar]

how many good ones?

[viscid pond]

All good rn

[keen bane]

it’ll affect ppl who mango more but at the end of the day everyone will be affected

[silver cedar]

like?

[fickle laurel]

I don't imagine manual players are usually hitting that 20 challenges daily cap

[viscid pond]

All atleast have %15 dmg and %15 crit chance

[fickle laurel]

Mango players easily would. Quite regularly

[high trail]

I would descend into madness before ngl

[viscid pond]

They have corruption too

[silver cedar]

decent ig

[cyan cobalt]

the 1 hour bounty and 2 hours inf quests are enough LOL

[keen bane]

that’s why mango is the goat

[silver cedar]

bruh corrupted 15 is mid

[fickle laurel]

more like needs to go 🥀

[silver cedar]

aim 30%

[viscid pond]

its luck

[keen bane]

maybe they could add a mode that is engaging and give rerolls

[viscid pond]

i dont have 30 but i have 20-25

[fickle laurel]

why do you think I ended up making odyssey milestones a weekly thing lmao

Although to be fair

I wanted the milestones to just loop

[keen bane]

odyssey sucks

[cyan cobalt]

i meant enough to make a person go insane, not enough as in enough rewards

1 hour for 1 reroll is insane (inf quest)

[fickle laurel]

and I said the weekly reset just to make sure people weren't going to be like, stuck on something or whatever

[sturdy zodiac]

I have a question I have a 130 meter gain black spirit is the highest c3 you can get?

[viscid pond]

Delete the challenge from the game and its fixed 🤓

[keen bane]

150 is the highest

[fickle laurel]

Yeah, I know. Imagine having to do 13 floors of odyssey every day as another chore

[keen bane]

if you get a 100% bought from the shop, then 50% C3

150%

[cyan cobalt]

TO BE FAIR

[sturdy zodiac]

welp back to grinding for me ig

[cyan cobalt]

i kinda like odyssey so id rather do that

for 10 rerolls than do inf quest and bounties

[keen bane]

130 is still good tho

at a certain threshold it stops mattering

like for goku i have a 135 on him

takes 2 attacks

it will still take 2 attacks at 150

[sturdy zodiac]

Hm I see

[viscid pond]

Birb better than black spirit

[keen bane]

i like black spirit on virgil

since his bar fills up slow

and black spirit on goku

[fickle laurel]

Oh absolutely. And that's why initially i wanted the milestones to be short and just loop. Like there wasn't gonna be a cap on them, but it would've been less efficient doing that over going to 1k intensity and quitting

[high trail]

I think birb would still do more ib that case

[fickle laurel]

And now that I think about it

[high trail]

In*

[raven haven]

wait they will limit rrs in 10 hours?

[keen bane]

with a good roll yes but those are a pain to get , and i’m not spending an hour+ in odyssey for 4 phoenix shard

[cyan cobalt]

i think they meant to only 10 hours (20 completions of half hourly)

[fickle laurel]

Having the milestones just be a weekly thing takes out a lot of the incentive to make a mango for it, since you wouldn't be able to just mango milestones on 0 intensity

[raven haven]

is it confirmed or that dude just saying it might

[viscid pond]

Bro our pc can take rest now

[raven haven]

my pc hmmm lemme js wait

[cyan cobalt]

i havent seen it officially confirmed anywhere

[sturdy zodiac]

I have 5 good rolls birbs just negative range which dont really matter so im chilling

[viscid pond]

Do challenges 1 hours

[fickle laurel]

Also yeah, that's how it's supposed to be. Apparently it was added in a fair while ago but I'm guessing it broke or just never worked properly

[cyan cobalt]

well nice. reroll inflation is finally curbing again

[cyan cobalt]

now we just need that fun replayable mode.. (if odyssey had trait rerolls..!)

[sturdy zodiac]

💀 end of life....

[fickle laurel]

Yeah, unfortunately that's not happening

[raven haven]

and yall wonder why i mango even 🙏

[fickle laurel]

I don't think there's a single source of infinitely farmable rrs

and odyssey isn't going to be the first

Keeping it solely focused on familiar stuff is the goal

[cyan cobalt]

wait what would count as infinitely farmable

bounties reset daily

[raven haven]

will they actually do it or u just saying @fickle laurel

the rrs limit

[silver cedar]

exp

[fickle laurel]

Probably

[cyan cobalt]

isnt there a 200 level cap to the rr rewards

[silver cedar]

150

[raven haven]

then it won't happen

[fickle laurel]

Because it was always supposed to be a thing

[sturdy zodiac]

150*

[weary gazelle]

did they tell u

[fickle laurel]

so if it doesn't work rn

[viscid pond]

U cant know that

[fickle laurel]

it's most likely going to be fixed

[raven haven]

what is doesn't work

[fickle laurel]

I literally do know that

[cyan cobalt]

sad, im about to hit the final milestone... no more free rerolll..

[viscid pond]

u are tester how do u know that

[raven haven]

u saying that it is already added but it's bugged?

[fickle laurel]

half hourly challenges were supposed to have a cap for 10 hours worth at most

[raven haven]

nah imna leave this game ✌️

[fickle laurel]

it might've worked before

And then broke

[weary gazelle]

never did

[fickle laurel]

That's literally how I would know lmao

[viscid pond]

Than i will mango 10 hours challenges and 14 hours cid

Thats worth

[fickle laurel]

Also infinitely farmable as in "there's no limit to how much you can do this in a day"

[cyan cobalt]

Ah okay

[fickle laurel]

every source of rrs in game rn has a cap, whether it be shop stock, timers, or daily resets

I might be wrong

But I can't think of one that doesn't

[viscid pond]

Do they say to u guys this things

[silver cedar]

anyone rift

5 mins

[fickle laurel]

Literally yes

[raven haven]

10 hours challenges
1 hour and 30 min inf
1 hour and 20 mins bounty
5 mins daily challenges
and boss rush/cid raid ig

[silver cedar]

need me a shiny ywchhh

[raven haven]

it will not change anything

do it idgaf

[cyan cobalt]

thats fine tbh, it'd be better to spread out the daily rewards across multiple replayable gamemodes anyway, to keep it less monotone

[viscid pond]

Rrs wont be tradeable

Why u guys trying to limit it tho

[silver cedar]

bruh

why would it

[fickle laurel]

"i added a max clear per day thingy"
"can only get rrs from 10 hours worth of clears in a day"
"been in place for a little while actually"

I'm guessing that it was added but never properly mentioned initially or verified that it works. Or maybe it did work and then it broke

[sturdy zodiac]

60 rrs is now the cap per day on 2x not bad

[cyan cobalt]

yea nice

[fickle laurel]

I'd thought about making milestones every other day resetting, but that felt a little weird of a timer to me

[cyan cobalt]

thats 240 on weekends (friday-monday)

[sturdy zodiac]

dont forget a bit of thursday!

[viscid pond]

im getting 600 rrs every week pls dont touch it 😭

[fickle laurel]

but daily felt like it'd be "just one more chore" that people may or may not even want to play. But I guess you can still go through 0 intensity for milestones at least

Regardless though

There is already supposed to be a limit for the half-hourly challenges

and if it's not working right now, it's most likely going to get fixed

[sturdy zodiac]

will this be announced in update logs/minor update

[fickle laurel]

Hope that clears up a little about the poll this whole suggestion was for, at least

[viscid pond]

They need to fix bugs first

[fickle laurel]

Maybe? I have no idea

[weary gazelle]

They fixing things that shouldnt be fixed

While ishtar 100$ skin bugged since day one

and never got fixed

[viscid pond]

Yea

[weary gazelle]

Shiny aizen cosmetic

it took 4 updates

To fix it

[sturdy gyro]

Delete this shit bro ✌️ 😂

[high trail]

Nah, they prob fixing it by now

Either way u came too late for the discussion

[silver cedar]

SHINYYY YWCCHHHH

[sturdy gyro]

[grand loom]

why r u leaking

this is how the devs had to come forward when trait pity got leaked

[twilit pine]

Ohoh

[twilit pine]

Heavily misinformed or pure ragebait

As a first a tester hadn't leaked it, a retired dev had

[keen bane]

71 W 66 L

gonna lose a few players if they do

more monarchs = more i can carry by noob friends

don’t nerf pls

[fickle laurel]

I am literally just explaining a feature that was supposed to be in lmao

And it either never actually worked properly or broke later on

[grand loom]

no

it was a dev

old balance team leaked it bc they got fired

[fickle laurel]

“Hi! we've had old devs leaking things that were considered private knowledge after quitting in an attempt to hurt our game, but given that we've a new dev team now and new rules, we think it'd be better for you guys to know about all this anyway 🙂
there is indeed a trait pity, and it is per-unit. meaning, if you get e.g. monarch on a unit, it will not reset your trait pity on any other unit. The trait pity for Monarch is 2500 trait rerolls, where on the 2500th it becomes guaranteed. Similarly, all mythic traits have their own individual pity, though significantly lower than Monarch's.
we dont want this pity number to be too low, since its still meant to be rare and hard to get, but given the situation we feel like you guys should know about this. Thank u!“

old devs
after quitting

[twilit pine]

👍

We can't read

[lavish peak]

😓

[fickle laurel]

1970 misinformation challenge (passed with flying colors)

[cyan cobalt]

the real reason 1970 is called 1970 is due to the incident in 1970's...

[twilit pine]

Is it worth a google search

Maybe he was born I'm 1970

Possibilities

[cyan cobalt]

[twilit pine]

The Beatles?

💔

They're THAT OLD?

They departed in the 1970s

Gng what

Oh

JOHN LENNON IN 1970

NIXON MEETS ELVIS PRELSEY

PRESLEY

[lavish yoke]

Eh i dont see a issue with it tbh

everyone can do it

[fickle laurel]

Fixing the limit realistically only impacts the mangos and the very small handful of the sweatiest AV grinders. I don’t think a majority of players even get close to hitting the intended limit

[high trail]

If your pc can spare the time yes, that aint the case for everyone tho

And even less for mobile users

[raven haven]

sybau walter go back to cooking

[lavish yoke]

Seen a dude do it for like 18 hours a day

but thats probably the longest ive ever seen

[raven haven]

imna go sleep rn gngs ✌️

[hasty spear]

yap

[bitter glen]

dude actually used mango picture

[frozen oasis]

71 stars and 71 Ls

i wonder which gonna have more in the end

[high trail]

They dont matter atp

The thread is so long that people votes without context

[fickle laurel]

Bold to assume people will even read through the first post of the suggestion and realize it’s a poll

[high trail]

I guess, naive me then 🥀

[fickle laurel]

A good chunk of the time people just see the title and base a reaction off that

[cyan cobalt]

I... forgot about that
I wonder how many people thought it was just to make each half hourly option limited to something ridiculous like 2 per day
Oh well, at least a lot of perspectives were had

[olive hollow]

100% a dozen people

[keen bane]

75W/80L

[sleek pecan]

Oof

Welp

Now the L react is the default

[high trail]

Doesnt matter

[cyan cobalt]

Its interesting how until a tester confirmed that a limit was intended to exist, stars were about 10 ahead
Maybe the news was posted to a m@cro server

[fickle laurel]

I mean considering the mention of this, it wouldn't surprise me lmao

[grizzled badger]

Mangos can easily adapt even if there r limits lmaooo

Trust me these ppl can create a mango for literally anything if they wanted to

(Except odessey)

[cyan cobalt]

And you break a hard limit how?
M@croing anything else will not come even a fraction close to what they can get with 24/7 half hourlies

Even if you do the most perfect inf-farm + odyssey farm for gems to summon for Shinies to turn into rerolls

[grizzled badger]

Sure but i dont rlly understand the logic of nerfing rewards js bcuz ppl mango,it might aswll affect some no lifers around,

And lets be honest the game isnt balanced around traits

Why does it matter if someone rlse gets more rrs than u

Its not affecting u in any sort

[silver cedar]

Not balance around traits?

Expand

[cyan cobalt]

trust me, noone is farming more than 16 hours a day as a non-m@cro player

[silver cedar]

I did once for sjw

[grizzled badger]

Basically the gamemodes are made easier with monarchs,but it can easily be finished without monarchs aswll

[grizzled badger]

Traitless exists for that reason??

[silver cedar]

I won't say easily but they can be finished

Without monarchs

[grizzled badger]

And even traits tournament sometimes needs mon monarchs

[grizzled badger]

Yes thats the point

[silver cedar]

Monarchs just shave off a lot of time when it comes to clearing

Especially Cid raid

[cyan cobalt]

Making traits a bot/m@cro gamemode is horrible

[grizzled badger]

P2w players have the advantage over mangoers in traits

Do we stop ppl from buying rerolls js bcuz its affecting comp?

No. Thats why traitless was inteoduced.

[cyan cobalt]

Not the same at all lol

People who buy things in the game support the game

m@cro users, other than those with premium, support m@cro creators, not the game

[grizzled badger]

And?they r to be given hand js bcuz they support the devs!

Corruption at its finest!

[cyan cobalt]

Like I said not the same at all therefore p2w wouldnt be punished

[grizzled badger]

😭😭 no wonder 89 Ls

[silver cedar]

Bibilous did spend $35 on a mango

[cyan cobalt]

I'm not saying p2w is a good thing, basically any game that has p2w is trash, but that is the standard on roblox
P2w is at least intended and that sets it apart from m@cro and botting

[grizzled badger]

Atleast with mangos,p2w players arent dominationg avg😭😭

Look at every other game

All the p2w players dominate it

But avg is the only game where even f2p stand a chance

Thanks to mangos

Even the devs know

Trying to base the updates based on mangos

Would cause massive uproar

[cyan cobalt]

Not thanks to m@cro, it's the fact that most things in the game aren't balanced around having Monarch
I can usually reach top 5 despite only 2 Monarchs (no aizen, no ywach, no vsjw)

M@cros also don't close the gap between you and a p2w, you can only get 800 rerolls a week at best (not counting de-shinyfying)
P2w players buy 800 on a whim if they ever need it
You only widen the gap between you and the legit players

[grizzled badger]

Lmaooo so ur saying the game isnt based around traits but yet u dont like other players getting more rrs than u?😭 😭

[silver cedar]

Mango is the closest thing you can close the gap between u and p2w players

[cyan cobalt]

No, monarch does win
But we don't need a 2nd layer of punishment to legit players

[sturdy zodiac]

Um I might widen the gap between legit players but get closer to the p2w players

[runic shell]

ppl who vote are 120% mangoing

[oblique smelt]

i hate people who mango because they usually ruin a game in many aspects but i feel the limit will be useless considering they would be able to bypass it somehow
literally bots can bypass captcha so idk about it idea
it won't harm normal players but not do anything to mangos aswell

at it point just ban them lol

or return to the old system with only 1 challenge

[cyan cobalt]

You can't bypass a hardcoded number, other than when it's bugged like the boss shop

[sturdy zodiac]

Most definitely but they are gonna limit it to 20 per day which is still insanely good in my opinion

[oblique smelt]

we are talking about av
ofc it will be bugged

[cyan cobalt]

That is fair, afterall they have somehow broken even the banner system now

Rifts are still disfuctional

Global timers arent being implemented for challenges simply because they have no clue how to make it work

[oblique smelt]

boss rush bugs returning every week

[silver cedar]

It will never be fixed 🥀

Tasks barely even work

[grizzled badger]

80% of avg playerbase mango lmaooooo

U cant rlly try to end majority

[oblique smelt]

also the devs aren't doing a good job against mango
for example the new raid is mean to not be mango but to make that possible they had to make it annoying as hell

[grizzled badger]

Avg will become AA if u stop mangoes

[cyan cobalt]

They do?

this vote was started then the new raid was bugged as hell too

[oblique smelt]

80% 💔

[cyan cobalt]

(not that its not buggy now...)

[oblique smelt]

stop pulling these % from nowhere

[silver cedar]

They failed at that tho BC there's already a mango for it

[oblique smelt]

did they what

no way

[silver cedar]

1-2 weeks old now I think

[sturdy zodiac]

It dropped like day 1 or 2

[cyan cobalt]

I think there might also be a non-image detection version you can do with a few specific monarchs

but dont remember

[oblique smelt]

💀

[silver cedar]

When there's a will anything is possible

Type shii

[oblique smelt]

it game is not giving me any reason to play it without using mangos ngl

but i won't because im a Mobile player 💔

[silver cedar]

It can even clear nightmare if u have the right units

[grizzled badger]

A specific gamemode sure,ask the pppl if they want the game to not be mangoable at all

[silver cedar]

So ur more incentivize to mango rather than dealing with the pain

[grizzled badger]

Why does this suggestion have more downvotes if its sabotaging mango users?