#Cid rebalancing/rework
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nah it'll make getting swaps on him easier
its a bandaid solution to one of cid's many problems
Does anyone even actually use Cid for his swaps in infinite, like just asking 💀
no
I got his nuke up to like 20 million after 180 waves
it's alot better than what we have now
the cooldown and the fact that it resets kills the usefulness immediately
black spirit already mostly solves that issue so not really
Yeah not even sure why they even bothered making it reset
Black spirit is too trash to use with Cid
birb benefits him much more
yeah cuz swapping isnt even worth it
you're still only getting one swap every 20 or so seconds
imagine getting three of them every 20 seconds
💀💀
bro says this like it even matters 😭
his dmg is so bad on the nuke regardless
he would need 5 swaps every 30 seconds to be useful
yeah that doesnt even affect monarch, and his nuke would still be ass in sub 30 wave gamemodes
not to mention his dps while swapping is especially bad
by the time you use his nuke in progressive it’s too late to farm the takedowns if you farm swaps
That's the problem trying to make him a DPS character as well
i don’t even think his swaps count until you max him
just rework lord of shadows entirely bruh 💔
I'd rather have Cid have mid DPS if it means his nuke is worth using
even if his nuke is worth using you'd never use him over goku or vsjw or something
cid is just fried in general
John’s nuke will almost always be better to use for bossing, though testers said Lord of shadows nuke was never meant for bossing so that’s fair i can definitely see that because 20 million vs 1.4 billion is not helpful in the slightest, but it literally doesn’t even count for the fact enemies have also like 50 mil hp by then
even gilgamesh has a better nuke than cid bruh
All Range Atomic only gonna be used for extra nuke damage in progressive gamemodes
i don’t even know why they bothered calling it all range atomic
if his normal attack is ATOMIC
and it has the same range
all range atomic being literally the same range as normal atomic and just more dmg
entire unit is badly designed 💔
just like Buu 💔
“we will not do Cid dirty”
dont diss the goat buu like that
i can find uses for buu unlike cid
their excuse? “we did not do Cid dirty, read the passives”
his candy stacking mechanic sucks absolute ass
mf can't retain any of his stacks after transformation
his candy stacking feature is 10x better than Cids nuke stacking mechanic at least 💔
fr
atleast buu costs like 77k to max
cid is 100k
cid literally has zero redeeming qualities
nah I can actually use Cid's nuke
Buu's Valentine 2.0
only reason Buus ever gonna be used is for stun
I used Cids nuke once, after having it on auto swap the entire 170+ waves just for it to not kill anything and render him useless because boss stunned him right after so i can’t be bothered 💀
Stuns don't cancel his ability
so it's just as practical as Goku's nuke
well not anymore but he got stunned for like 14 seconds by lancer
They never did
idk why stun isn’t counted as a debuff ngl
Did you turn off auto wave skip and keep him on lowest spa upgrade
yes realistically
It was just that his ability was bugged af and didn't actually hit everything
i’m pretty sure his ability doesn’t stack until you max him
Because it's a status effect, not a stat debuff
lemme test that
devs seperated the 2 just to make unknown special
pisses me off
i mean vegito doesn’t
But turning off waveskip should still help
you have to max him or well you use to idk if he’s fixed now
It does
Regardless his nuke wasn’t going to do anything
it was 20 million vs enemies with 50 mil+
gilgamesh would’ve did better in his case due to the fact it executes enemies with 10% atp 💀
You can use both you know
not really feasible honestly, unless you have 4 players for inf run ig
💀

bro the 50 million hp enemies was just with 2 people
it would’ve been 100 mil then
and cid would’ve done even less 💀💀
in conclusion, nukes are overkill outside of infinite
the boss hp did did it not
Not linearly
well not really
gilgamesh can be used in progressive
John also can
Lord of shadows can’t
Because his "nuke" does no damage
it’s not even worth it really
Gilgameshs that is
ngl i can see shrine glazing cid in his upcoming video which will 100% invalidate any cid related suggestions
How would you even glaze this
all range atomic is just more nuke damage
youtubers find a way
nah his SPA is actually good
yeah idk it’s also just the fact we went from Vergil and Dante doing literally more dps than Lord of shadow and John combined that makes me feel they don’t compare other trait dps to their units when testing
Vergil was already good and they buff him for no reason
literally what was the thought process
I'd just rebalance Cid's damage and SPA
ask the balancer who said Cid will be top 3 and carried by his passives 💀
Did valk say that
he did but it wasss for pvp
I dont see how it would be any better in pvp lol
Tester got automodded
Oh
Insane

wiki TL is pure kek
did John get moved down? 💀
nah Alucard got moved up
ah
I'd never put Buu in meta
What even is the point of the meta tier if theres like 20 units in it
Meta should be like maybe 6 units
where is lord of shadows in that case then lol
or is it also john
Same unit
hes so ass hes not even worth mentioning
I put him below Choi on mine
It means there needs to be more submeta tiers 
real
Because the units are all so close together
lowkey fair
But theyre not
Theres a huge difference between rem and yhwach
And theyre in the same tier
idk if they’ll ever bother buffing Cid anyways
I’m just tilted that John can tie us up in raid but can’t stun enemies 💀💀
only possibility is if shine makes a vid about it for him being ass
other than that i wouldnt count on it
In stage they said they are never buffing him and gave the reason being “read his passives”
and then Lord of shadows gets out shadowed by his side character
yeah peak
love how they say "read his passives" and never mention his dps
fr him being stunnable is ridiculous they should of gave unknown to both forms at the very least
why is Cid so trash and do bad dps? “uhm, read the passives, dps isn’t everything”
💔
15k damage per swap 💔
I feel like Cid having high DPS with Z+ stats contributes to why his nuke is buns
Yea Im reading the part where it says he loses his buff after swapping. The swap unit loses his buff after swapping
how did they even decide on BLAST for Cid

I mean no complaints but
atomic nukes go boom
I dunno
Ong why is he not cosmic unknown
Atomic is literally a blast
I dont think thats the problem here
have blast as an element
At best he’s a grenade lmao
Because hes undercover
yeah john is a better option
💀💀
masks disguise peoples identities
Well currently lol
as if SHADOW isn’t undercover
His nuke sucks
LoS*
😭
Will the nuke be changed before next update
They are not buffing his ahh
entire point of lord of shadows is to be an underground organization leader
Devs would rather delete him from the game then go back on their words

devs would rather turn him into a unit just for his cosmetic 💔
They have gone back on their word so many times
I'd honestly just cut Cid's DPS by a chunk and compensate by giving him better nuke damage
his dps is already ass bro 💔
Make it so the nuke scales off enemy hp.
and his nuke scales on his dps
It should deal 100% of enemy hp
A unit from update 0-2 is getting a double evolution as well according to them in stage
watch them take it back
Absolutely not
Sukuna
?
make his nuke global range or get a 2x range buff for 10-30 seconds or something at LEAST
Probably
It’s ass because the units that’re better have follow-up attacks
In that specific case I think they were talking about another unit as they already said they were gonna do something to sukuna
Why would they say they are gonna change sukuna openly then be like guys a secret unknown unit from 0-2.0 is getting a double evo 
i don’t know what gojo can even be evolved into
maybe they’d make him look like goji from the manga or give him the tweaking form even tho he was weaker then
he also has 200% purple
They could do like anything and jjk fans would eat it up
Idc what the double evo is for as long as it’s not saber
Jjk will be forgotten in a month
literally just make him better than what he is rn and jjk fans would be happy 💀 tho he did get a shadow nerf lately
This one guy has a suggestion for a double evo on saber and I never want her to get a second evo because of that
I don’t want him to gain any happiness
So true
Yeah because they added a new status ailment then said nuh uh it’s a debuff
buff unknown and fuck everyone else 🔥
yeah after also saying we will not be touching any old units that are already existing with previous balancers changes lol
It was mainly to push people to get sjw vanguard so they can make the content harder and then blame the players who can’t clear it for not getting him
Except for Alucard, he can become the best bleed unit in the game
mf make him a vanguard
💀
hell nah
make a unit that’s 0.005 have a double evo
give him a second evo through a quest 
Ppl will complain like mad
lowkey
ppl actually get mad over double evos

yeah he should be a vanguard ngl, he was just added before it was implemented
Not like rarity means anything in this game
He needs a fat buff if he goes to vanguard imo 💀
Whats the point of the exclusive rarity
his support is good
nothing realistically, ig just trading
or limited time
ong make Giselle and Ishtar exclusive units
But the limited secrets will be tradeable too
Wait I know how they could give gojo a double evolution
Is yehowaxh limited?
And choy and the wl units
no
rifts will apparently swap
and rotate
but idk how they plan that now
can’t add the damn gif
I feel like a new Rift can be added every x.5 update
Thats too much work for the devs
nah that would be annoying asf especially with how good ywach is
Wl unit, rift unit and then the units from the update
If they keep adding units like that frequently the power creep would be ridiculous
true, recycling old maps is too much for them
They cant possibly make more than 3 units you need to understand
i mean
They will die if they work more than 15 minutes a day
legit make this mf a Rift unit, I'll grind him for a day
He does 3 separate attacks synced to his spa, buffs your entire team, buffs himself by 30% from his passive, and has status immunity
if they release units like that every .5 then they’d have to be shit
That’s also yhwach
I’m talking about ywach fym
That’s what I said, I don’t know what other units could do that if they turn them into rifts
Wl units also vary in quality
besides being dps etc
Frieren is complete ass
Units will vary in quality always lol
And katakuri is pretty good
the only two worldlines units that're meta are Esdeath and Katakuri
I want black frieza as a vanguard
What would he even do
damage
anyways next update, how many units y'all think we getting
idk but i hope the bp units are atleast characters i care about
4-5 maybe
actually
7
cause new battlepass as well
it'll be 7 units, but three of them are behind tournaments/leaderboards
thank god i never play the tournaments, rock lee not worth it 💔
neither is that octopus 💀
legit just a poor mans Alligator
thank god for traitless
yeah even then 💀
yeah i can get them not making lb units meta but its a bit absurd
rock lee aint even so much as submeta
we went from mahito and broly TO ROCK LEE
at least Mahito hit 200k dmg and ignored dmg reduction 💔
yeah mahito was actually decent back when tourneys released
idk how people were saying Martial Island is hard for beginner players
i mean you can literally do cid raid act 1 with all rares, takoroda and inumaki and they will still complain, tho it does take like 30 minutes
don’t even need takoroda 💔
act 2 you need monarchs for sure though probabaly to get under like 15 minutes
Kinda confusing
I’m up to ear on how they’ll do rotation for rifts
that’s also assuming if they still plan to do that
yeah thank god he aint we DO NOT need meta tourney units
nearing 50 stars
I can tell y’all he’s getting a slight change
Not a major one
But something to make him actually usable in inf because somebody goofed
Will it come before 6.0?
Since inf lb is resetting
No
I don’t think any changes will be
Because they’re at the point where they can’t push anything to live because of the work on 6.0
a slight change probably aint doing much but its better than nothing i guess
It’s going to make his nuke actually usable in inf like it was supposed to
But the math was all fucked up on it
I can’t exactly say what the changes are, but it should hopefully put his infinite usage back into place where it was supposed to be
so im guessing the scaling is getting buffed then?
oh
The scaling was definitely an issue
I think when calcs were done on it, someone forgot to put a % in multiplying
And got a way higher number than actual 
dont think cids ever getting reworked simply because devs dont want powercreep
It probably won’t be very viable in shorter content still but that’s the point
He’s not getting reworked, just “””adjusted”””
cooked
hopefully some meaningful wave 50 gamemode gets added in the future
You could probably use it in stuff like dungeon at least
Or maybe portals
I’d have to test once the change is implemented
alr
It will still reset the swap counter on use though
Because letting it infinitely scale would still be batshit absurd
No it wouldnt
Idk the new things, but his problem could just be fixed by making it not reset
No
Because right now, it has nothing to do with it resetting
It’s the fact that it does no fucking damage lmao
If you left a monarch Cid to swap for 2 hours with no spirit familiar to help out, you’re getting a grand total of 12M
Which is nothing

If the base scaling is shit
Its not that bad
Also turning off auto skip for infinites has to be the wildest thing 😭
Anything to drag an infinite to four hours
You gotta do what you gotta do
I know it’s tech
And I see the vision
But his nuke is really just kinda pitiful for where it’s at rn
It’s supposed to be a “last resort” sort of nuke button
But with its scaling and its range limitations rn, it doesn’t do enough to justify that
But cid doesnt nuke as a last resort, its his like second resort
Well yeah, but that’s his main attack
I guess the matchmaking fix was an exception
Better to have it out now though to get some stress testing before PvP
Uuuh
Alr, now naruto buff pls 🤖
You're welcome for actually redoing the math 
W
Let's go he's decent in 1 mode now, finally 🔥
It would be nice if his nuke did percentage dmg instead of just plain normal dmg
like 25% dmg to every enemy in his range
so his nuke will forever stay good and cid wont just fade away in future updates
greedy
so greedy
cid riders asking for too much now
its good though he is a special unit afterall
and 25% is fair amount
and like before you have to build up to it like idk 2% every attack
"Special unit" thats what people thought of igris 💔
dont remind me bro
i shaved away my life for it and it became dookie after 1 update
how is he special in any way
js another secret
✌️
wait
is he not limited?
i swear all raid units are or were limited
if he not my fault i assumed he limited bcs every game that relased cid so far made him limited
He's not limited
Though that's kinda on them because knowing what unit is limited and what isn't requires you to use unit view
ts is why we need exclusive rarity to be used like it was meant to be 💔
i agree
i didnt even know choy was limited till they announced it an update before its leaving
🙏
These idiots can't balance for the life of them
13m nuke in 15 wave mode btw
😭
@glossy saffron you can't tell me this shit was tested
I’m honestly not sure 
Wl reset incoming
Because this is insanely fucking stupid I think that's obvious

Incoming nerf
This isn't even the best you can do btw you could probably easily get 20m+
In a wave 15 mode
Ion think it was intended for him to be able to one tap wave 100 inf bosses just at wave 15 lowkey
I don’t think the “turning off skip wave and stalling” was considered LOL
😭
It shouldn't be stronger than 10x at wave 15 anyway
3m is strong enough
Okay ig fuck the wl lb
Oh no

I have very strong things to say about whoever balanced this shit but I'm gonna refrain
This is some actual als bullshit 🥀
Bet I'll do the change I have planned soon as py gets up.
Was gonna let you guys have fun for a bit
Thank you dawg 🥀
But since you feel so strongly on it
You should fix everyone else’s Cid
LOL
I wanna have fun with it, these guys are nerds smh smh
(I will proceed to never bother abusing it)
so this will be a huge nerf?
Lemme ping the wl sweats rq let them know they're cooked in advance 🤣
Bruh why 😭 I just now got cid monarch
You buffoon
Just gonna lock the nuke to infinite modes only
I mean monarch cid is still good lmao
Let cid have his fun
You guys looked at the 13m nuke at wave 15 and went "yeah this seems intended"
Oh hell na bro
That's so bad bro why would I waste my rr if that's the case
U should have told it sooner or something
💀😭
Why did you waste rr on cid
You say waste like cid is a bad unit 😭
I spent fucking 2k re
Cids still insanely strong idk wym
Bro why would I use him if he's inf only
u will need him for pvp anyways
I don't even play inf and I fucking spent 2k rr
John smith is solid
Because it’s only the atomic nuke ability that’s gonna be infinite only?
You'll find a use
And the unit is still legitimately good outside that?
Nah bro if it's inf only ima be disappointed as fuck ig
It’s one ability
The whole point was that it was supposed to only be directed at inf
And in theory wasnt going to be scaled enough outside that
Tbh I don't see how else youd make the nuke usable in inf but still be balanced
Should have thought it through bruh
You’re right
I wouldn't have rolled
Maybe you can just cap it at 1000% outside of inf or smth?
If it's inf only
I'ma be real I tried to let the thing run free, but its gonna get abused as you can see bc ppl just gonna turn off wave skip and and stall it out.
Idrk
Predict every player and strategy
Good idea
1000% is too low
That’s 10x damage
1000% mapwide nuke is okay dawg
Same as vsjw duo nuke
Just make the swap longer
Except it’s map wide and benefits from his 3rd passive
Like more time to swap
That would just make everything worse
Shit would still just boil down to "stall as much as possible"
Not even just the nuke, but the swap parts of the passive too
But it would just make the scaling in infinite even worse
😭
Tbh I only rolled on him caz I saw 50% per swap
If u gonna rework everything
After the release
Idk why you think he’s still bad to roll on though
And nerf him heavy
Like the unit is still good
By locking him to inf only
He’s still better than he released as
only the unlimited will get locked to inf only enderian had a good idea
It’s one ability bro, it’s not that deep 😭
I'm heavy disappointed caz I spent fucking 2k rr which is ton of time and effort to get it
1000% nuke outside of inf is okay dawg
the nuke will just get capped outside of inf
I also dunno why you dropped so many RR right before a major update
I got it so I can just shill and 1 shot boss bruh wdym it's only 1 ability
😭💀
you dont even know what the new units do
2k rr 💔
You weren’t even doing that before his nuke rework lmao
at most before his rework you were doing like 600%
Bro at that point just go back to the previous one
Oh 1970 has a friend
Bro it's better than fucking locked to inf
And I spent 2k rr
😭
Dawg have you not read anything anyones saying
Full map 1000% nuke doesn’t sound bad to me 
I think you play too much AV gang, you forgot how to read 🥀
Its just gonna get capped inside story so you can't be a goober and perma stall and abuse it.
well not story prog
Ok that's good
What’s the cap gonna be?
Make sure that includes tournaments too
1000%
yeah ill make sure
That’s fair for progressives
Does cid raid count as progressive or infinite though since it can technically go forever
Imagine just insta killing lord of shadows
And wl
gonna make sure its story mode infinites only, so basically only uncapped for leaderboard runs
Yeah seems about right
yo can yall not neuder him again bro 😭
spent like 20 rrs on the guy
Uncap it for boss events for fun
LOL
But tournaments work like an infinite so I wanted to make sure
20 😭
bro cids gonna get neutered again??
again?
When was the first time
Oh no, my blitz cid 💔
I wish I could get a good trait fr
Dawg this is literally the first nerf we have ever done 😭 Everything else was a bug fix.
The only thing that sucked before was the nuke button
This ones a direct nerf.
Igris?
Igris?
Buu?
I wasn't here for igris
Direct nerf after an insane buff
buu was a bug fix
Still a nerf
Just buff igris damg pls

Buff epic Sakura to cleanse the entire map fr
Yhwach is actually still bugged funnily enough
tbh if they'll nerf cid just make the swap buildup slower
its why hes so damn strong
50% 60% 70% or something
how is he bugged?
its part of his passives dude
But we just consider the bug part of his base kit now
I hate ywhaa tornoments
yhwachs bugged??
That’s what I said in general
It’s just getting capped outside of infinites
his passives got reworded to include the bug
to 1000% i assume?
Yes
yehowach attacking twice is not a bug
Bc fixing that bug would've nuked yhwach SUPER HARD
His 2nd passive was only meant to hit the first and last enemies rather than be a second attack entirely
it was legit shown in the trailer
thats like a 13m nuke right for wave 15
So you can’t just turn off auto skip and stall forever
1970 are you arguing with the person who made the passive
ohh
isnt that what it's doing??
More like 2.3m
he has two attacks with full aoe
Nerf him he sucks I hate him in tornoments
Ahh yes tell the person who designed the units, living up to your role.
It’s doing 2 entire attacks, that wasn’t intentional
Yeah
It was only meant to hit the first and last enemies SPECIFICALLY
It was a big fat middle finger to those 2 enemies specifically
Nah I only nerf if absolutely necessary
Side note we need another rift unit
Like this situation
Maybe 6.5
Also yhwach was supposed to do like, single target instances of damage originally
Through the passive, not his attack
😭😭😭😭 my boi cid just change the 600% to 100% cap won't that be better ?
wat
then hes dead in infinites, his intended purpose.
Believe it or not, infinites ramp up VERY fast.
This shit is hard
Best I did on infinite namek was like wave 120
💀
then i'll have gokus nuke be 10000% instead of 1000
Make Johnny randomly spin everything he hits
he does?
next will be yhwach now being able to proc his passive with other players units now
how abt they give lord of shadows the unknown element too and it solves all his problems 😊

Oh I don’t have him
Bro this shit is hard just make him kinda op so I can one shot boss I don't have to worry anything when am solo that's all I ask don't nerf him heavy in story / other modes
I don’t trust you considering your role
😭
Ig I can't read properly
lmao 1000% is still very strong
1000 mapwide is good enough
speaking of 1000% nuke
make it 2000% instead please 🥺
Maybe it can 1200 to match with the 600%
Why wasn’t it mapwide to begin with literally called ALL RANGE atomic
Idk
nah 1k is plenty
The same as the button toswap
Idrm 1k all map
Normal atomic is his full range already
rlly
thats 2.3m map wide dmg and multi hit to run through shields
Welp if it's same as vsjw vsjw can nuke 3 tiles 💀 1000% 200% 600% atleast make it 2000
vsjw isn't map wide
Caz his damg is kinda low
is he
Cid ain’t equal to vsjw
Nope
dude i say just have cid instakill everything on the map
you don't need all of that
its not like ur rlly gon have enemies on every corner of the map anyways tho 😭
Nah gilga lose his fun
besides inf
Yes you will lol, in difficult stages bleeds are very common
being able to snipe the bleeds without reposititioning is massive
That’s why uryu is the goat
buff delta
I think shes pretty buff alr, if she worked out more she would look like she-hulk
fuck igris
Just his damg is enough
YOU ARE A LIAR
Buff sukuna oh wait double evo
fodder ass 😭
Wdym
i thought i could halt the chargeup and just have goku throw the nuke already
seriously tho man shes so ass delete the target passive 🙏
Sukuna already got buff
When I get igris I’m doing his achievements before I melt him into juice
Igris is out of touch
Ah?
He did?
I use her all the time
I like using delta
I stopped playing after update 2 and joined back in update 4.5
Yep bro
she'd be so much better without the weakest passive js think abt it..
why is she limited to one targetting
I still got a cursed worm but it gets deleted when u get Toji so I literally can’t evolve him
well its almost like its an intended design weakness to keep her from just being a better uryu

The weakest is usually leaks anyway
then js change the target from weakest to strongest honestly
nah weakest is better
If theres no weak enemies then she will target the stronger ones 
Make a unit like warlock and Pierre or whatever from battle cats only being able to target bosses
Gurt is it possible to just buff igris damg to current unit damg as monarch which is gets as low as 150k around where gojo damg is so igris won't break his passives nor get into meta
(I lost the snip of the ability overview 🥀 )
He did get a buff. It’s called vsjw
ur monarch igris isnt getting buffed bro
why igris out of everyone bro
Fuck u ig
give up
💀
fell off ages ago
His both was vsjw
Igris got a buff by becoming literal fodder for sjw
Just make VSJW
Secret my ass boss rush my ass 😭
igris fell off when tengen was meta 🤣
Cha in buff when
can they gives support that gives lifestock so i can make my monarch ichigo b etter
which was fucking 30 years ago
He’s a release unit 😭
Giorno Giovanna
Then nerf sukuna
double evo alcuard when 🧐
Bro what
infinite sakura aizen tech 😭
Sukuna’s already in the grave what
exactly bro
He got buffed ig
He can give immunity to other units from effects and debuffs like with the snake vaccine
Why do igris dirty
Bro even his boss rush is fodder now
you have no idea how busted this would be
Ichigo 1 quadrillion hp nuke 🔥 🔥
Just add a cap to it g
Two extra live stocks
15 minute cooldown
Because igris was out of date, just like sjw. So now they combine and you get an actually good unit
🫠 I hate this
Can we buff uryu tho
No need to change his passives just buff damg
No
1 + 1 = meta
Wow Rage our 2k Rerolls are Useful on this Unit now
We don’t touch my goat
Buff Vergil fr he weak
Because if they buff him, he’ll just invert it into a nerf 
That’s clearly how it works
Make it decrease by 5% every extra attack
oh you so right
😡
Will yhwach be the only rift unit forever though
Clearly this means if uryu ever gets a buff, we need to mark it on the update log as a nerf
I don't think so unless there's been a change of plans
Ik Im asking for a lot but it's just 70k buff to his base damg which is at 80k rn he's not even usable
Tbh he already got all of a buff he needed with the placement cost reduction
Get Vsjw
-20dmg +10spa
Who?
Simple solution
For who?
Igris
Oh
I kinda thinking of fu from dragon ball xenoverse would fit a rift unit because his whole thing is about rifts
No lmao
They said they’re going change it
igris's biggest fan 💔
I highly doubt Igris is ever getting touched again
Igris doesn’t need a buff
They red key awaits a sacrifice
is yehowaxh going be limited or will rifts have some rotation type shit
Afaik no
He doesn't say limited so
No clue what the future plan is tho
Unless they decide to change it
well idk how they gonna do the rotation for rifts
Well man returning players only have igris he's so fucking trash he gets out run by fucking stupid exclusive
Could just be different riffs
Would be a waste to make rifts a one time thing
Would be weird with the current schedule
Considering 4 spawn
Just make it like boss rush but 2 weeks instead of 1
Make a 3rd sl update but this time it’s his son and to get him you need to sacrifice igris as a questline
touhou and madoka upd please ✌️
ima be real, anything pre 2.0 isn't even worth trying to fix as the passives are so ass they won't have a place in the meta regardless without just being absolute stat demons. Some of the jjk units are still really good but outside of those few everythings pretty buns and just would need a total rework. Which we do not have time to do.
Returning players have both sjw and igris, enough to do vsjw
So just let it go
So you get some of the newer units and get up to speed and then use igris to make vsjw?? He’s a unit from release, we’re going into update 6 soon 😭
Fr valk
Itadori passive literally just a small stat buff
I still think todo is the goat
Strongest sorcerer
Old units are OLD
strongest sorcerer passive 😭
And then they just made gojo immune to everything anyways there
Why change his passives ? When just little stat buff so he's atleast doing lowest damg but still usable
Might go on a deep dive and try to make a fu rift unit suggestion at some point
So true... (i have a monarch on him, cant wait for just to be a sacrifice for the yuji duo unit)
Caz monarch shouldn't be 80k peak damg
You'd need to 2.5x his dps for him to be worth anything
I get it for mythical it sucks but for secreat
Even then I don't think he'd be worth much
Because doing a stat buff is pointless. Do you expect them to just stat buff every old unit to be on par with current units??
Let igris go bro
Gotta get choso too for the whole family
Stfu rage
He’s a release unit bro, just accept that he’s old and outdated
The red key awaits a sacrifice, it calls for igris
Most of the release units can have evos tho
Is stage suggestions just for units
You could double Igris' dps and nothing would change ima be real, especially when nobody even has a decent mythic sjw these days
yeah get my goat obito back in the meta
Or stages, or updates in general
Yeah igris already got his
Only the secreat 💀 should secreat atleast hold something to his name or should just be trash only make it to lowest monarch damg which is gojo damg 150k
Obito Vanguard soon trust
Vogita
Naruto upd 50
His secret is that his kit design is ass and that the red key is still hungry
Its not like he has like 4 transformations ahead
He’s outdated
The red key yearns for igris’ arrival
Powercrept
Ultra instinct yamcha when
Sacrifice him
Useless kit
Tho i find it weird that he isnt used with goku ssj3
What is so difficult about this lmao
Someone make a conquest edit with this
If he was then he'd just end up being another Igris
Igris awaits to be sacrificed for the monarch to reach his true potential
conquest like deepwoken

I get he's oudated passive trash as fuck but atleast give some attention to secreat caz the hierarchy sucks rn mythical can do fucking 100x than secreat wow great
Like [Title Screen]
Hi silence
So should we buff every secret too, then
The thing is that he is more useful and easier to obtain than igris lol
Do we need to buff valentine and sukuna too
Buff aizen aura to be his entire range fr
Just stats no one asked for passives
Caz if u change passive everything changes
Just make them usable
Not meta
Do you want secrets to just be cycling in the meta forever or?
You need to make valentine sellable that's enough of a buff 👍 👍
You can’t just keep buffing stats
Like ofc they’re gonna fall off, they’re outdated
Honestly current cid passives should swap
What?
Because it just does the same thing over and over. You bump their numbers, then they immediately need another next update
💀 just make him on par with gojo bro which is also fucking update 1
Just let it go bro
yes an infinitely ramping passive on an infinitely scaling nuke, what could wrong.
What would making him do 3k more dps do
It would just be this nuke update
Damage scaling
The sooner you accept it, the better it’ll be
The power creep from update 0 to update 1 is extremely noticeable, buffing igris to be equivalent to Gojo doesn’t even make sense
Why not buff the other units that are outdated then? What about valentine who came out AFTER both of them and was literally worse?
i dont think you understand how multiplicative values work
I think it's good buff caz 80k to 150k is good
How much bonus damage does cid do with the whole more damage on lower hp targets thing
My goat alocard is still staying strong ❤️
Normal people only need something good so other units can also work around it
That's significantly more than gojo in that case
js make it so after you use cid's nuke he gets deleted from your unit inventory
Well he’s got the glorious wounded passive
🔥
2 * 2 is 4 - 1 that’s 3 quicc maths
I’m also taking this as a moment to let all the non-Alucard havers know that you will never get him
Just make it so you get banned if you use his Nuke atp
I got him last week randomly
He's gonna go out of meta when sukuna Vanguard comes out and inflicts bleed Wounded and rupture 🔥 🔥
He gonna cut the enemies in half with world cutting slash
We should make it so that cid’s nuke also nukes your base and makes you instantly lose
Ur just making it hard for returning players
U are forgetting the burn
Not really tbh just get saber and go from there
Can we make Cid’s nuke just kill the player and you can’t respawn
Yeah burn and intense burn too
Saber 💔
When they have igris 😭
Honestly just drop the vanguard atp I want something to roll on
It is literally so easy for returning players to get units and catch up on the game
Vegeta will solo most of the maps
Cid’s nuke should have so many things going on that it crashes the player as well
A true last resort
Yeah cids nuke should just launch nukes all around the globe irl
You literally get 2/3 of the best units from bp rn so how hard is it really for returning players
make it fry your pc and wipe your acct
Fr I stopped at update 2 and came back at 4.5 and I almost immediately got meta stuff
Extreme damage in exchange for a blue screen of death
Complete battlepass get Vergil get a decent trait and you have a top 5 unit already or Dante
Cid’s nuke is the only thing that can compete with lagshooter
Fuck old units fuck nerf to cid I hate everything don't change anything
Can we make Cid’s nuke real and it just explodes in a radius of 10km from your device
Why stop at 10km
Uncap cid nuke but make it delete all units on the map
10000?
Yeah seems right
Make it so every time you use cids nuke, it blows up lemins house
Make it blow up a random house in their neighborhood
Lemin prepare to commit felonies
Yes and don’t make it a global cd for 3x the effect
We listen and we don’t Judge
Chat how about when you use cid mode odyssey gets deleted 🔥
zip bomb
It should spawn 4 towers around the map and you have to hit them in order or else the nuke backfires and you instantly lose
Fuck cid bro u should have thought it through
Martial story and the towers are stuck in the stands
Yeah the wl reset bouta be awkward can't lie 💀
I’m sorry, my crystal ball was out of batteries
they not gon reset these mfs hardstuck like room 200 anyways 😭
Who even cares update 6 gonna bring more unit which will change the meta
Which is why they'll probably get reset no?
pretty sure you can push higher normally and these guys js suck ass
Release units don’t suck u just suck
Make the farm units do damage equal to their yen gain every second
(They have 1 range)
Fucker go to igris and check his damg
😭
80k peak
Monarch
Nice
Full aoe tho
His dps with a shadow in range is slightly less than Gojo
110k max
Wow slightly less than gojo
Yeah
Stop leaking the secret Naruto buff
Igris doesn't have a 10 second spa does he
boohoo u have 1 bad monarch
stop fucking crying
bro just get gojo then 💀
i have both
That's the funny part you're talking to someone with like 10 monarchs
then stop using igris 💔
Make it so his swaps only count after he has been maxed
