#Cid rebalancing/rework

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olive glen
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not even amazing just good

next crystal
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nah it'll make getting swaps on him easier

olive glen
pliant acorn
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Does anyone even actually use Cid for his swaps in infinite, like just asking 💀

pliant acorn
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I got his nuke up to like 20 million after 180 waves

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olive glen
versed smelt
olive glen
pliant acorn
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Black spirit is too trash to use with Cid

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birb benefits him much more

olive glen
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yeah cuz swapping isnt even worth it

pliant acorn
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gives him literally 70k dmg

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and 15 more range

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his range is so bad without it 💔

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pliant acorn
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bro says this like it even matters 😭

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his dmg is so bad on the nuke regardless

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he would need 5 swaps every 30 seconds to be useful

olive glen
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not to mention his dps while swapping is especially bad

pliant acorn
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by the time you use his nuke in progressive it’s too late to farm the takedowns if you farm swaps

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pliant acorn
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i don’t even think his swaps count until you max him

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just rework lord of shadows entirely bruh 💔

next crystal
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I'd rather have Cid have mid DPS if it means his nuke is worth using

olive glen
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cid is just fried in general

pliant acorn
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John’s nuke will almost always be better to use for bossing, though testers said Lord of shadows nuke was never meant for bossing so that’s fair i can definitely see that because 20 million vs 1.4 billion is not helpful in the slightest, but it literally doesn’t even count for the fact enemies have also like 50 mil hp by then

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even gilgamesh has a better nuke than cid bruh

next crystal
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All Range Atomic only gonna be used for extra nuke damage in progressive gamemodes

pliant acorn
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i don’t even know why they bothered calling it all range atomic

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if his normal attack is ATOMIC

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and it has the same range

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all range atomic being literally the same range as normal atomic and just more dmg

olive glen
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entire unit is badly designed 💔

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pliant acorn
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“we will not do Cid dirty”

olive glen
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i can find uses for buu unlike cid

pliant acorn
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KannaStare their excuse? “we did not do Cid dirty, read the passives”

next crystal
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mf can't retain any of his stacks after transformation

pliant acorn
olive glen
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fr

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atleast buu costs like 77k to max

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cid is 100k

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cid literally has zero redeeming qualities

next crystal
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only reason Buus ever gonna be used is for stun

pliant acorn
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I used Cids nuke once, after having it on auto swap the entire 170+ waves just for it to not kill anything and render him useless because boss stunned him right after so i can’t be bothered 💀

glossy saffron
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Stuns don't cancel his ability

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pliant acorn
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well not anymore but he got stunned for like 14 seconds by lancer

glossy saffron
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They never did

pliant acorn
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idk why stun isn’t counted as a debuff ngl

tepid lily
pliant acorn
glossy saffron
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It was just that his ability was bugged af and didn't actually hit everything

pliant acorn
glossy saffron
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olive glen
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pisses me off

pliant acorn
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i mean vegito doesn’t

tepid lily
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But turning off waveskip should still help

pliant acorn
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you have to max him or well you use to idk if he’s fixed now

tepid lily
pliant acorn
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Regardless his nuke wasn’t going to do anything

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it was 20 million vs enemies with 50 mil+

tepid lily
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Thats not even bad

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If it didnt reset

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After use

pliant acorn
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gilgamesh would’ve did better in his case due to the fact it executes enemies with 10% atp 💀

tepid lily
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You can use both you know

pliant acorn
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not really feasible honestly, unless you have 4 players for inf run ig

tepid lily
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Well obviously

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Thats where you use cid nuke

pliant acorn
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💀

honest pecan
pliant acorn
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it would’ve been 100 mil then

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and cid would’ve done even less 💀💀

tepid lily
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It doesnt scale like that

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Its not linear

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pliant acorn
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the boss hp did did it not

tepid lily
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Not linearly

pliant acorn
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gilgamesh can be used in progressive

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John also can

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Lord of shadows can’t

tepid lily
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Because his "nuke" does no damage

pliant acorn
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it’s not even worth it really

tepid lily
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Gilgameshs that is

olive glen
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ngl i can see shrine glazing cid in his upcoming video which will 100% invalidate any cid related suggestions

tepid lily
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How would you even glaze this

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tepid lily
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Maybe sakura tech to make cid swap faster

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But does sakura even work with swap units

olive glen
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pliant acorn
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yeah idk it’s also just the fact we went from Vergil and Dante doing literally more dps than Lord of shadow and John combined that makes me feel they don’t compare other trait dps to their units when testing

olive glen
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yeah idk how the devs can actually buff someone like vergil

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but keep cid shit

tepid lily
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Vergil was already good and they buff him for no reason

olive glen
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literally what was the thought process

next crystal
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I'd just rebalance Cid's damage and SPA

pliant acorn
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Buffed #1 dps, kept #15 practically dps so ahh

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peak

pliant acorn
tepid lily
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Did valk say that

pliant acorn
tepid lily
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I dont see how it would be any better in pvp lol

pliant acorn
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i don’t see Cid being top 3 for pvp either

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same

tepid lily
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Tester got automodded

glossy saffron
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Oh

tepid lily
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Insane

glossy saffron
next crystal
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wiki TL is pure kek

glossy saffron
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Even a video wouldn't do that nuke button justice

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its buns

pliant acorn
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pliant acorn
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ah

next crystal
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I'd never put Buu in meta

tepid lily
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Meta should be like maybe 6 units

pliant acorn
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or is it also john

tepid lily
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Same unit

olive glen
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glossy saffron
pliant acorn
glossy saffron
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Because the units are all so close together

pliant acorn
tepid lily
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Theres a huge difference between rem and yhwach

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And theyre in the same tier

pliant acorn
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idk if they’ll ever bother buffing Cid anyways

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I’m just tilted that John can tie us up in raid but can’t stun enemies 💀💀

olive glen
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other than that i wouldnt count on it

honest pecan
pliant acorn
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and then Lord of shadows gets out shadowed by his side character

olive glen
honest pecan
pliant acorn
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why is Cid so trash and do bad dps? “uhm, read the passives, dps isn’t everything”

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💔

honest pecan
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15k damage per swap 💔

next crystal
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I feel like Cid having high DPS with Z+ stats contributes to why his nuke is buns

tepid lily
pliant acorn
glossy saffron
pliant acorn
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I mean no complaints but

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glossy saffron
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I dunno

honest pecan
tepid lily
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Atomic is literally a blast

glossy saffron
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Why does the man whose entire shtick

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is being an atomic bomb

tepid lily
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I dont think thats the problem here

glossy saffron
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have blast as an element

pliant acorn
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why is john unknown

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atp

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💀

honest pecan
tepid lily
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Because hes undercover

olive glen
pliant acorn
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💀💀

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glossy saffron
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Well currently lol

pliant acorn
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as if SHADOW isn’t undercover

glossy saffron
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His nuke sucks

olive glen
pliant acorn
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😭

tepid lily
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Will the nuke be changed before next update

honest pecan
olive glen
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entire point of lord of shadows is to be an underground organization leader

honest pecan
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Devs would rather delete him from the game then go back on their words

glossy saffron
pliant acorn
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devs would rather turn him into a unit just for his cosmetic 💔

tepid lily
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They have gone back on their word so many times

next crystal
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I'd honestly just cut Cid's DPS by a chunk and compensate by giving him better nuke damage

olive glen
tepid lily
olive glen
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and his nuke scales on his dps

tepid lily
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It should deal 100% of enemy hp

honest pecan
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A unit from update 0-2 is getting a double evolution as well according to them in stage

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watch them take it back

glossy saffron
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Absolutely not

glossy saffron
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SJW was enough %hp scaling

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Hell no not adding any more

pliant acorn
honest pecan
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tepid lily
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No, not probably

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Its definitely sukuna

honest pecan
# tepid lily No, not probably

In that specific case I think they were talking about another unit as they already said they were gonna do something to sukuna

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Why would they say they are gonna change sukuna openly then be like guys a secret unknown unit from 0-2.0 is getting a double evo smirk_1

tepid lily
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Maybe gojo then

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Tho idk what his evo would even be

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Its not like he got stronger

pliant acorn
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i don’t know what gojo can even be evolved into

honest pecan
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maybe they’d make him look like goji from the manga or give him the tweaking form even tho he was weaker then

pliant acorn
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he also has 200% purple

honest pecan
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They could do like anything and jjk fans would eat it up

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Idc what the double evo is for as long as it’s not saber

tepid lily
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Jjk will be forgotten in a month

pliant acorn
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literally just make him better than what he is rn and jjk fans would be happy 💀 tho he did get a shadow nerf lately

honest pecan
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This one guy has a suggestion for a double evo on saber and I never want her to get a second evo because of that

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I don’t want him to gain any happiness

tepid lily
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So true

honest pecan
olive glen
pliant acorn
honest pecan
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It was mainly to push people to get sjw vanguard so they can make the content harder and then blame the players who can’t clear it for not getting him

next crystal
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mf make him a vanguard

pliant acorn
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💀

honest pecan
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make a unit that’s 0.005 have a double evo

pliant acorn
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give him a second evo through a quest Pepe_Mugshot

honest pecan
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Ppl will complain like mad

tepid lily
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Thats not what he said

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Just change his rarity

pliant acorn
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lowkey

next crystal
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ppl actually get mad over double evos

honest pecan
olive glen
tepid lily
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Not like rarity means anything in this game

pliant acorn
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He needs a fat buff if he goes to vanguard imo 💀

tepid lily
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Whats the point of the exclusive rarity

pliant acorn
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his support is good

pliant acorn
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or limited time

next crystal
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ong make Giselle and Ishtar exclusive units

tepid lily
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But the limited secrets will be tradeable too

pliant acorn
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even tho secret is also limited

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lol

honest pecan
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Wait I know how they could give gojo a double evolution

fringe oyster
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Is yehowaxh limited?

tepid lily
pliant acorn
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rifts will apparently swap

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and rotate

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but idk how they plan that now

honest pecan
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can’t add the damn gif

next crystal
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I feel like a new Rift can be added every x.5 update

tepid lily
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Thats too much work for the devs

honest pecan
tepid lily
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Wl unit, rift unit and then the units from the update

honest pecan
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If they keep adding units like that frequently the power creep would be ridiculous

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tepid lily
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They cant possibly make more than 3 units you need to understand

tepid lily
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They will die if they work more than 15 minutes a day

pliant acorn
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rifts can end up like worldlines

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good few units first and then trash the next

next crystal
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legit make this mf a Rift unit, I'll grind him for a day

honest pecan
# pliant acorn i mean

He does 3 separate attacks synced to his spa, buffs your entire team, buffs himself by 30% from his passive, and has status immunity

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if they release units like that every .5 then they’d have to be shit

honest pecan
pliant acorn
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That’s what I said, I don’t know what other units could do that if they turn them into rifts

tepid lily
pliant acorn
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besides being dps etc

tepid lily
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Frieren is complete ass

pliant acorn
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Units will vary in quality always lol

tepid lily
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And katakuri is pretty good

next crystal
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the only two worldlines units that're meta are Esdeath and Katakuri

honest pecan
tepid lily
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What would he even do

honest pecan
tepid lily
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I think he just one shots goku and dips

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In the manga

next crystal
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anyways next update, how many units y'all think we getting

olive glen
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idk but i hope the bp units are atleast characters i care about

pliant acorn
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actually

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7

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cause new battlepass as well

next crystal
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it'll be 7 units, but three of them are behind tournaments/leaderboards

pliant acorn
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thank god i never play the tournaments, rock lee not worth it 💔

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neither is that octopus 💀

next crystal
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legit just a poor mans Alligator

pliant acorn
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worldline is monarch tourney sooooo

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i will not be touching that ever

next crystal
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thank god for traitless

pliant acorn
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yeah even then 💀

olive glen
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rock lee aint even so much as submeta

pliant acorn
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at least Mahito hit 200k dmg and ignored dmg reduction 💔

olive glen
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yeah mahito was actually decent back when tourneys released

next crystal
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idk how people were saying Martial Island is hard for beginner players

pliant acorn
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don’t even need takoroda 💔

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act 2 you need monarchs for sure though probabaly to get under like 15 minutes

fringe oyster
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I’m up to ear on how they’ll do rotation for rifts

pliant acorn
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that’s also assuming if they still plan to do that

cloud herald
olive glen
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nearing 50 stars

glossy saffron
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I can tell y’all he’s getting a slight change

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Not a major one

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But something to make him actually usable in inf because somebody goofed

tepid lily
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Since inf lb is resetting

glossy saffron
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I don’t think any changes will be

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Because they’re at the point where they can’t push anything to live because of the work on 6.0

olive glen
glossy saffron
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It’s going to make his nuke actually usable in inf like it was supposed to

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But the math was all fucked up on it

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I can’t exactly say what the changes are, but it should hopefully put his infinite usage back into place where it was supposed to be

olive glen
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oh

glossy saffron
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The scaling was definitely an issue

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I think when calcs were done on it, someone forgot to put a % in multiplying

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And got a way higher number than actual KEK

tidal pine
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dont think cids ever getting reworked simply because devs dont want powercreep

glossy saffron
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It probably won’t be very viable in shorter content still but that’s the point

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He’s not getting reworked, just “””adjusted”””

olive glen
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hopefully some meaningful wave 50 gamemode gets added in the future

glossy saffron
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You could probably use it in stuff like dungeon at least

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Or maybe portals

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I’d have to test once the change is implemented

olive glen
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alr

glossy saffron
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It will still reset the swap counter on use though

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Because letting it infinitely scale would still be batshit absurd

glossy saffron
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With the new things

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It definitely would

tepid lily
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Idk the new things, but his problem could just be fixed by making it not reset

glossy saffron
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No

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Because right now, it has nothing to do with it resetting

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It’s the fact that it does no fucking damage lmao

tepid lily
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You can stack it pretty high in inf

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You turn off auto skip wave

glossy saffron
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If you left a monarch Cid to swap for 2 hours with no spirit familiar to help out, you’re getting a grand total of 12M

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Which is nothing

glossy saffron
tepid lily
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Why would you not use the familiar designed for the swap unit

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On the swap unit

glossy saffron
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Because even with familiar

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That’s only 24M

tepid lily
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And then 2x dmg with esdeath ts

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1.2 with alucard

glossy saffron
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If the base scaling is shit

tepid lily
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Its not that bad

glossy saffron
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Also turning off auto skip for infinites has to be the wildest thing 😭

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Anything to drag an infinite to four hours

tepid lily
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You gotta do what you gotta do

glossy saffron
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I know it’s tech

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And I see the vision

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But his nuke is really just kinda pitiful for where it’s at rn

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It’s supposed to be a “last resort” sort of nuke button

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But with its scaling and its range limitations rn, it doesn’t do enough to justify that

tepid lily
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But cid doesnt nuke as a last resort, its his like second resort

glossy saffron
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Well yeah, but that’s his main attack

glossy saffron
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I guess the matchmaking fix was an exception

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Better to have it out now though to get some stress testing before PvP

olive glen
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oh my god war is over

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cid does stuff now

versed smelt
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Uuuh

honest pecan
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It happened

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cheers ig never thought the day would come

modern finch
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Alr, now naruto buff pls 🤖

glossy saffron
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You're welcome for actually redoing the math pepeLmao

olive glen
half marsh
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W

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amber elk
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It would be nice if his nuke did percentage dmg instead of just plain normal dmg

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like 25% dmg to every enemy in his range

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so his nuke will forever stay good and cid wont just fade away in future updates

orchid cipher
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so greedy

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cid riders asking for too much now

amber elk
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its good though he is a special unit afterall

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and 25% is fair amount

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and like before you have to build up to it like idk 2% every attack

modern finch
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"Special unit" thats what people thought of igris 💔

amber elk
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i shaved away my life for it and it became dookie after 1 update

tender grail
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js another secret

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✌️

amber elk
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wait

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is he not limited?

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i swear all raid units are or were limited

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if he not my fault i assumed he limited bcs every game that relased cid so far made him limited

cloud herald
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He's not limited

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Though that's kinda on them because knowing what unit is limited and what isn't requires you to use unit view

half marsh
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ts is why we need exclusive rarity to be used like it was meant to be 💔

amber elk
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i didnt even know choy was limited till they announced it an update before its leaving

half marsh
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🙏

cloud herald
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These idiots can't balance for the life of them

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13m nuke in 15 wave mode btw

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😭

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@glossy saffron you can't tell me this shit was tested

versed smelt
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This is why we dont ask for buffs

glossy saffron
cloud herald
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Because this is insanely fucking stupid I think that's obvious

versed smelt
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Incoming nerf

cloud herald
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This isn't even the best you can do btw you could probably easily get 20m+

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In a wave 15 mode

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Ion think it was intended for him to be able to one tap wave 100 inf bosses just at wave 15 lowkey

glossy saffron
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I don’t think the “turning off skip wave and stalling” was considered LOL

cloud herald
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It shouldn't be stronger than 10x at wave 15 anyway

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3m is strong enough

glossy saffron
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I don’t think it’s gonna change though

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At least not for a little while

cloud herald
versed smelt
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Oh no

glossy saffron
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Let people have their fun fucking with it ig

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Until it finally does get a change

cloud herald
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We've just cooked tourneys and wl

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Oh my god bro

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😭

glossy saffron
cloud herald
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I have very strong things to say about whoever balanced this shit but I'm gonna refrain

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This is some actual als bullshit 🥀

versed smelt
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Vergil found dead in 1 update

glossy saffron
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Before it was too low

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Now it’s too high because we forgot about wave stalling pepeLmao

restive lake
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Was gonna let you guys have fun for a bit

cloud herald
restive lake
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But since you feel so strongly on it

cloud herald
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Yeah because wl is gonna be cooked as shit

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😭

glossy saffron
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You should fix everyone else’s Cid

restive lake
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LOL

glossy saffron
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But leave mine buffed

versed smelt
restive lake
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The change is gonna be shitty but whatever

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not really any choice

glossy saffron
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I wanna have fun with it, these guys are nerds smh smh

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(I will proceed to never bother abusing it)

fringe oyster
cloud herald
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Lemme ping the wl sweats rq let them know they're cooked in advance 🤣

noble sage
cloud herald
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You buffoon

restive lake
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Just gonna lock the nuke to infinite modes only

glossy saffron
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I mean monarch cid is still good lmao

noble sage
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Let cid have his fun

cloud herald
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You guys looked at the 13m nuke at wave 15 and went "yeah this seems intended"

noble sage
restive lake
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Only way for it to keep its meaningful scaling

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bc it NEEDS to do that much damage

noble sage
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That's so bad bro why would I waste my rr if that's the case

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U should have told it sooner or something

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💀😭

versed smelt
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Why did you waste rr on cid

glossy saffron
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You say waste like cid is a bad unit 😭

noble sage
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I spent fucking 2k re

restive lake
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Cids still insanely strong idk wym

noble sage
fringe oyster
noble sage
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I don't even play inf and I fucking spent 2k rr

cloud herald
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John smith is solid

glossy saffron
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Because it’s only the atomic nuke ability that’s gonna be infinite only?

cloud herald
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You'll find a use

glossy saffron
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And the unit is still legitimately good outside that?

noble sage
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Nah bro if it's inf only ima be disappointed as fuck ig

glossy saffron
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It’s one ability

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The whole point was that it was supposed to only be directed at inf

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And in theory wasnt going to be scaled enough outside that

cloud herald
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Tbh I don't see how else youd make the nuke usable in inf but still be balanced

noble sage
glossy saffron
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You’re right

noble sage
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I wouldn't have rolled

glossy saffron
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Let me get my crystal ball

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Look into the future

cloud herald
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Maybe you can just cap it at 1000% outside of inf or smth?

noble sage
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If it's inf only

restive lake
cloud herald
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Idrk

glossy saffron
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Predict every player and strategy

fringe oyster
glossy saffron
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That’s 10x damage

cloud herald
versed smelt
glossy saffron
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Same as vsjw duo nuke

noble sage
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Just make the swap longer

glossy saffron
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Except it’s map wide and benefits from his 3rd passive

noble sage
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Like more time to swap

glossy saffron
cloud herald
glossy saffron
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Not even just the nuke, but the swap parts of the passive too

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But it would just make the scaling in infinite even worse

noble sage
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Tbh I only rolled on him caz I saw 50% per swap

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If u gonna rework everything

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After the release

glossy saffron
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Idk why you think he’s still bad to roll on though

noble sage
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And nerf him heavy

glossy saffron
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Like the unit is still good

noble sage
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By locking him to inf only

glossy saffron
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He’s still better than he released as

restive lake
glossy saffron
noble sage
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I'm heavy disappointed caz I spent fucking 2k rr which is ton of time and effort to get it

cloud herald
restive lake
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the nuke will just get capped outside of inf

cloud herald
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WHY ARE TOU DROPPING 2K IN A WHIM

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😭

restive lake
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I also dunno why you dropped so many RR right before a major update

noble sage
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😭💀

restive lake
#

you dont even know what the new units do

noble sage
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9-5

glossy saffron
#

You weren’t even doing that before his nuke rework lmao

restive lake
#

at most before his rework you were doing like 600%

noble sage
restive lake
#

Oh 1970 has a friend

glossy saffron
#

The previous one was dogshit 💀

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Literally worse than the proposed cap

noble sage
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And I spent 2k rr

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😭

restive lake
#

Dawg have you not read anything anyones saying

worldly patio
#

Full map 1000% nuke doesn’t sound bad to me catthink

glossy saffron
restive lake
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Its just gonna get capped inside story so you can't be a goober and perma stall and abuse it.

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well not story prog

untold sonnet
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What’s the cap gonna be?

glossy saffron
restive lake
restive lake
untold sonnet
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That’s fair for progressives

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Does cid raid count as progressive or infinite though since it can technically go forever

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Imagine just insta killing lord of shadows

noble sage
#

I got Lil upset after I saw it's inf only mb

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😭

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Now it's good

cloud herald
noble sage
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1000% FOR story/rest

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Is good

restive lake
cloud herald
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Yeah seems about right

glossy saffron
#

So it’ll work there

tender grail
#

spent like 20 rrs on the guy

untold sonnet
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Uncap it for boss events for fun

restive lake
#

LOL

glossy saffron
#

But tournaments work like an infinite so I wanted to make sure

worldly patio
#

20 😭

compact crag
#

bro cids gonna get neutered again??

restive lake
#

again?

compact crag
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actually not again

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dude just sucks

glossy saffron
#

When was the first time

modern finch
#

Oh no, my blitz cid 💔

compact crag
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before

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my bad i had a very bad dream

untold sonnet
#

I wish I could get a good trait fr

restive lake
#

Dawg this is literally the first nerf we have ever done 😭 Everything else was a bug fix.

glossy saffron
#

The only thing that sucked before was the nuke button

restive lake
#

This ones a direct nerf.

fringe oyster
#

Buu?

compact crag
#

igris

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buu

restive lake
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I wasn't here for igris

untold sonnet
#

Direct nerf after an insane buff

restive lake
#

buu was a bug fix

fringe oyster
noble sage
fringe oyster
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Cuz yall forced him to use a familar now

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And yehowach

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That's a nerf

glossy saffron
untold sonnet
#

Buff epic Sakura to cleanse the entire map fr

restive lake
#

Yhwach is actually still bugged funnily enough

compact crag
#

tbh if they'll nerf cid just make the swap buildup slower

restive lake
#

its why hes so damn strong

compact crag
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50% 60% 70% or something

fringe oyster
#

its part of his passives dude

restive lake
#

But we just consider the bug part of his base kit now

noble sage
#

I hate ywhaa tornoments

compact crag
#

yhwachs bugged??

untold sonnet
glossy saffron
restive lake
compact crag
glossy saffron
#

Yes

compact crag
#

ohh

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thats not bad actually

fringe oyster
restive lake
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Bc fixing that bug would've nuked yhwach SUPER HARD

worldly patio
fringe oyster
#

it was legit shown in the trailer

compact crag
#

thats like a 13m nuke right for wave 15

glossy saffron
#

So you can’t just turn off auto skip and stall forever

worldly patio
#

1970 are you arguing with the person who made the passive

glossy saffron
fringe oyster
#

he has two attacks with full aoe

noble sage
restive lake
worldly patio
compact crag
#

ohh

glossy saffron
#

Yeah

worldly patio
#

It was only meant to hit the first and last enemies SPECIFICALLY

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It was a big fat middle finger to those 2 enemies specifically

restive lake
untold sonnet
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Side note we need another rift unit

restive lake
#

Like this situation

untold sonnet
#

Maybe 6.5

glossy saffron
#

Also yhwach was supposed to do like, single target instances of damage originally

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Through the passive, not his attack

noble sage
#

😭😭😭😭 my boi cid just change the 600% to 100% cap won't that be better ?

compact crag
#

wat

restive lake
#

Believe it or not, infinites ramp up VERY fast.

noble sage
#

This shit is hard

untold sonnet
#

Best I did on infinite namek was like wave 120

compact crag
#

vro honestly just let me balance

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ill make johnny have ability inf dmg 👍

restive lake
#

💀

compact crag
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then i'll have gokus nuke be 10000% instead of 1000

untold sonnet
#

Make Johnny randomly spin everything he hits

fringe oyster
compact crag
#

next will be yhwach now being able to proc his passive with other players units now

light glen
#

how abt they give lord of shadows the unknown element too and it solves all his problems 😊

compact crag
fringe oyster
#

inf spin does that

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slows them perm

untold sonnet
#

Oh I don’t have him

noble sage
fringe oyster
#

yeah inf spin is really op

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people just don't know how it works

untold sonnet
#

I don’t trust you considering your role

compact crag
#

😭

noble sage
#

Ig I can't read properly

restive lake
cloud herald
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1000 mapwide is good enough

compact crag
#

speaking of 1000% nuke

tender grail
#

make it 2000% instead please 🥺

cloud herald
#

Maybe it can 1200 to match with the 600%

compact crag
#

where is the option to end gokus nuke??

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😭

untold sonnet
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Why wasn’t it mapwide to begin with literally called ALL RANGE atomic

cloud herald
#

Idk

restive lake
compact crag
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probs cuz its all range = only his range something something

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😭

modern finch
cloud herald
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Idrm 1k all map

untold sonnet
#

Normal atomic is his full range already

compact crag
restive lake
#

thats 2.3m map wide dmg and multi hit to run through shields

noble sage
noble sage
#

Caz his damg is kinda low

restive lake
#

is he

noble sage
fringe oyster
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which is huge already

compact crag
#

dude i say just have cid instakill everything on the map

fringe oyster
#

you don't need all of that

tender grail
noble sage
tender grail
#

besides inf

restive lake
#

being able to snipe the bleeds without reposititioning is massive

untold sonnet
#

That’s why uryu is the goat

light glen
#

buff delta

noble sage
#

#

If u gonna buff someone buff my boi igris

restive lake
tender grail
noble sage
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Just his damg is enough

light glen
#

fuck igris

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who give af abt igris bro

compact crag
untold sonnet
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Buff sukuna oh wait double evo

light glen
#

fodder ass 😭

modern finch
compact crag
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i thought i could halt the chargeup and just have goku throw the nuke already

light glen
noble sage
untold sonnet
#

When I get igris I’m doing his achievements before I melt him into juice

noble sage
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Igris is out of touch

untold sonnet
restive lake
#

I like using delta

untold sonnet
#

I stopped playing after update 2 and joined back in update 4.5

noble sage
light glen
#

why is she limited to one targetting

untold sonnet
#

I still got a cursed worm but it gets deleted when u get Toji so I literally can’t evolve him

restive lake
untold sonnet
#

The weakest is usually leaks anyway

light glen
restive lake
modern finch
#

If theres no weak enemies then she will target the stronger ones thumbsup

glossy saffron
#

See but the thing about Delta’s passive….

untold sonnet
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Make a unit like warlock and Pierre or whatever from battle cats only being able to target bosses

noble sage
glossy saffron
#

(I lost the snip of the ability overview 🥀 )

glossy saffron
light glen
tender grail
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why igris out of everyone bro

noble sage
light glen
#

give up

noble sage
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💀

tender grail
#

fell off ages ago

untold sonnet
#

Igris got a buff by becoming literal fodder for sjw

noble sage
#

Secret my ass boss rush my ass 😭

light glen
modern finch
#

Cha in buff when

compact crag
#

can they gives support that gives lifestock so i can make my monarch ichigo b etter

light glen
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which was fucking 30 years ago

glossy saffron
#

He’s a release unit 😭

noble sage
light glen
#

double evo alcuard when 🧐

cloud herald
tender grail
glossy saffron
#

Sukuna’s already in the grave what

compact crag
noble sage
untold sonnet
noble sage
#

Why do igris dirty

split pike
restive lake
cloud herald
fringe oyster
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Two extra live stocks

untold sonnet
glossy saffron
#

Because igris was out of date, just like sjw. So now they combine and you get an actually good unit

noble sage
#

No need to change his passives just buff damg

glossy saffron
#

No

untold sonnet
#

1 + 1 = meta

raven helm
#

Wow Rage our 2k Rerolls are Useful on this Unit now

glossy saffron
#

We don’t touch my goat

noble sage
#

Bro 80k at monarch

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Nice

untold sonnet
#

Buff Vergil fr he weak

glossy saffron
#

Because if they buff him, he’ll just invert it into a nerf em_waaaaah

#

That’s clearly how it works

untold sonnet
#

Make it decrease by 5% every extra attack

compact crag
untold sonnet
#

Will yhwach be the only rift unit forever though

glossy saffron
#

Clearly this means if uryu ever gets a buff, we need to mark it on the update log as a nerf

cloud herald
noble sage
#

Ik Im asking for a lot but it's just 70k buff to his base damg which is at 80k rn he's not even usable

glossy saffron
#

Tbh he already got all of a buff he needed with the placement cost reduction

worldly patio
#

Get Vsjw

worldly patio
#

Simple solution

noble sage
glossy saffron
#

Oh

untold sonnet
#

I kinda thinking of fu from dragon ball xenoverse would fit a rift unit because his whole thing is about rifts

glossy saffron
#

No lmao

fringe oyster
tender grail
#

igris's biggest fan 💔

cloud herald
#

I highly doubt Igris is ever getting touched again

glossy saffron
#

Igris doesn’t need a buff

worldly patio
#

They red key awaits a sacrifice

glossy saffron
#

Let it go

#

His buff is being used to make a better unit and be relevant again

fringe oyster
glossy saffron
#

Afaik no

cloud herald
glossy saffron
#

No clue what the future plan is tho

cloud herald
#

Unless they decide to change it

fringe oyster
noble sage
# glossy saffron Let it go

Well man returning players only have igris he's so fucking trash he gets out run by fucking stupid exclusive

untold sonnet
#

Could just be different riffs

cloud herald
#

Would be a waste to make rifts a one time thing

fringe oyster
#

Would be weird with the current schedule

untold sonnet
#

Considering 4 spawn

cloud herald
split pike
tender grail
#

touhou and madoka upd please ✌️

restive lake
#

ima be real, anything pre 2.0 isn't even worth trying to fix as the passives are so ass they won't have a place in the meta regardless without just being absolute stat demons. Some of the jjk units are still really good but outside of those few everythings pretty buns and just would need a total rework. Which we do not have time to do.

modern finch
restive lake
#

So just let it go

glossy saffron
tough kraken
#

Fr valk

untold sonnet
glossy saffron
#

Strongest sorcerer

untold sonnet
#

Old units are OLD

tender grail
#

strongest sorcerer passive 😭

glossy saffron
#

And then they just made gojo immune to everything anyways there

noble sage
untold sonnet
#

Might go on a deep dive and try to make a fu rift unit suggestion at some point

modern finch
noble sage
#

Caz monarch shouldn't be 80k peak damg

cloud herald
noble sage
#

I get it for mythical it sucks but for secreat

cloud herald
#

Even then I don't think he'd be worth much

glossy saffron
worldly patio
#

Let igris go bro

untold sonnet
tough kraken
#

Stfu rage

glossy saffron
#

He’s a release unit bro, just accept that he’s old and outdated

worldly patio
#

The red key awaits a sacrifice, it calls for igris

modern finch
#

Most of the release units can have evos tho

untold sonnet
#

Is stage suggestions just for units

cloud herald
#

You could double Igris' dps and nothing would change ima be real, especially when nobody even has a decent mythic sjw these days

tender grail
cloud herald
glossy saffron
noble sage
cloud herald
split pike
modern finch
glossy saffron
modern finch
glossy saffron
#

He’s outdated

worldly patio
#

The red key yearns for igris’ arrival

glossy saffron
#

Powercrept

untold sonnet
#

Ultra instinct yamcha when

worldly patio
#

Sacrifice him

glossy saffron
#

Useless kit

modern finch
#

Tho i find it weird that he isnt used with goku ssj3

glossy saffron
#

What is so difficult about this lmao

untold sonnet
cloud herald
worldly patio
#

Igris awaits to be sacrificed for the monarch to reach his true potential

tender grail
noble sage
untold sonnet
cloud herald
worldly patio
glossy saffron
#

So should we buff every secret too, then

modern finch
glossy saffron
#

Do we need to buff valentine and sukuna too

untold sonnet
#

Buff aizen aura to be his entire range fr

noble sage
#

Caz if u change passive everything changes

#

Just make them usable

#

Not meta

worldly patio
#

Do you want secrets to just be cycling in the meta forever or?

cloud herald
glossy saffron
#

You can’t just keep buffing stats

worldly patio
#

Like ofc they’re gonna fall off, they’re outdated

untold sonnet
#

Honestly current cid passives should swap

fringe oyster
glossy saffron
#

Because it just does the same thing over and over. You bump their numbers, then they immediately need another next update

noble sage
glossy saffron
#

Just let it go bro

restive lake
glossy saffron
#

Igris ain’t getting buffed

#

Your buff is vsjw

cloud herald
untold sonnet
#

Damage scaling

glossy saffron
#

The sooner you accept it, the better it’ll be

worldly patio
restive lake
noble sage
untold sonnet
#

How much bonus damage does cid do with the whole more damage on lower hp targets thing

split pike
noble sage
#

Normal people only need something good so other units can also work around it

cloud herald
tender grail
#

js make it so after you use cid's nuke he gets deleted from your unit inventory

worldly patio
untold sonnet
worldly patio
#

I’m also taking this as a moment to let all the non-Alucard havers know that you will never get him

raven helm
cloud herald
untold sonnet
#

He gonna cut the enemies in half with world cutting slash

glossy saffron
#

We should make it so that cid’s nuke also nukes your base and makes you instantly lose

noble sage
#

Ur just making it hard for returning players

cloud herald
worldly patio
#

Can we make Cid’s nuke just kill the player and you can’t respawn

cloud herald
tough kraken
#

Saber 💔

noble sage
split pike
glossy saffron
modern finch
worldly patio
#

Cid’s nuke should have so many things going on that it crashes the player as well

#

A true last resort

cloud herald
#

Yeah cids nuke should just launch nukes all around the globe irl

tough kraken
#

You literally get 2/3 of the best units from bp rn so how hard is it really for returning players

tender grail
#

make it fry your pc and wipe your acct

untold sonnet
worldly patio
#

Extreme damage in exchange for a blue screen of death

split pike
glossy saffron
#

Cid’s nuke is the only thing that can compete with lagshooter

noble sage
#

Fuck old units fuck nerf to cid I hate everything don't change anything

worldly patio
#

Can we make Cid’s nuke real and it just explodes in a radius of 10km from your device

cloud herald
#

Why stop at 10km

untold sonnet
#

Uncap cid nuke but make it delete all units on the map

worldly patio
cloud herald
#

Yeah seems right

tough kraken
#

Make it so every time you use cids nuke, it blows up lemins house

worldly patio
#

NO

#

DONT DO THAT

untold sonnet
#

Make it blow up a random house in their neighborhood

#

Lemin prepare to commit felonies

glossy saffron
#

Guys

#

Guys

split pike
glossy saffron
#

Hear me out

#

When you use Cid’s nuke

untold sonnet
cloud herald
#

Chat how about when you use cid mode odyssey gets deleted 🔥

untold sonnet
#

zip bomb

glossy saffron
#

It should spawn 4 towers around the map and you have to hit them in order or else the nuke backfires and you instantly lose

noble sage
#

Fuck cid bro u should have thought it through

untold sonnet
cloud herald
glossy saffron
tender grail
#

they not gon reset these mfs hardstuck like room 200 anyways 😭

noble sage
cloud herald
tender grail
#

pretty sure you can push higher normally and these guys js suck ass

cloud herald
#

Unless the floors are unclearable even with a 20m nuke

#

Ic

tough kraken
#

Release units don’t suck u just suck

cloud herald
#

🥱

tough kraken
#

Ur just jealous

untold sonnet
#

Make the farm units do damage equal to their yen gain every second

#

(They have 1 range)

cloud herald
noble sage
#

😭

#

80k peak

#

Monarch

#

Nice

modern finch
#

Full aoe tho

noble sage
#

Usable

cloud herald
#

His dps with a shadow in range is slightly less than Gojo

noble sage
#

Wow slightly less than gojo

cloud herald
#

Yeah

worldly patio
cloud herald
#

Igris doesn't have a 10 second spa does he

tough kraken
#

stop fucking crying

vivid steeple
noble sage
cloud herald
vivid steeple
cloud herald
#

Yeah

#

Granted 2 of them seem to be useless but still

#

How greedy

tepid lily