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[misty wing]

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[low hatch]

yes make the unobtainable units obtainable

whats the point of them being limited in the first place

[steep agate]

literally sybau dont even think suggesting again

[marble blaze]

Make it so you can get them

But without any passive

And cosmetics wont work

[atomic moat]

If that's not sarcasm, I agree with you, no point in gatekeeping units/content from new players

[atomic moat]

Why would you get them then?

[marble blaze]

There is tho, because trade will be eventually added

And it doesnt matter if you dont like that feature or not, devs will add it regardless anyways so this type of suggestions have been clearly rejected by now

[barren thicket]

Yeah this is just never gonna happen

[atomic moat]

But what do you think it would be better, a trade system with overpriced units that could lead to a bad economy in the game, prolly favoring PTW players or a way to offer those units for new players? a lot of other games have reruns

[wide flume]

99% of f2p players are not gonna go for a full completion. In my experience, they try to strike a balance of easy to get and meta when starting off, and going straight for meta units at higher levels

[atomic moat]

Where's the ban or smt, for agressive behavior in msgs?

[steep agate]

warn me

"agressive behavior" 😭

[barren thicket]

There's no ban for hurting someone's feelings 👍

[atomic moat]

My feelings aren't hurt, its just disgusting to see those kinda of ppl are still allowed to message other and stuff, but wthvr

[willow mirage]

but then that's the point of limited time stuff...

they stay 'for a while'

and that's also why trading will be there

[steep agate]

why would u get haruka then for example or subaru 😭

[willow mirage]

to allow even new players to obtain them

[vagrant finch]

FK people who has bad luck or wasn't playing on that time

[atomic moat]

I see

[willow mirage]

it's not that serious bro what

chill

[atomic moat]

Kids are nervous

[vagrant finch]

Just saying, they should add some way to get límited units

[willow mirage]

but then they arent limited...

[barren thicket]

Nobody is nervous

You don't see me crying about not getting diavolo in 3.5 million wisps

[vagrant finch]

Límited for a time, like 1 or 2 months

[willow mirage]

'returning of unobtainable units' is basically trading

[frail kite]

asspull suggestion

[willow mirage]

just trade for it in the future

[river trellis]

yes make the unobtainable units obtainable
whats the point of them being limited in the first place

[willow mirage]

what??

[atomic moat]

Exaclty, still can't see the point of them being limited

[vagrant finch]

Like other games, or anime Worlds TD, add a rotative shop

Trading suck for a lot of pople

[willow mirage]

i havent heard of this before

[willow mirage]

just because they are

and there's still a lotta units to get in the game

[atomic moat]

Imo trading won't work, players will overprice units

[willow mirage]

values will fit into their own place over time

if it's overpriced then it is

[marble blaze]

I only heard about als receiving backlash for rerunning limited units.

[willow mirage]

if you want it then trade for it

[atomic moat]

Then they will still be unob

[vagrant finch]

In league of legends there's a rotative shop, with límited skins, they should add something like that

[willow mirage]

they arent limited then

[marble blaze]

Because lol has no trading afik?

[willow mirage]

why not

you can always get smt to trade for it

if you cant then you cant

[river trellis]

"imo trading won't work"

why is that?

[willow mirage]

i mean there's a reason it's limited

[vagrant finch]

They are, you have to wait and spend More Money getting in than it was on release

[willow mirage]

still not limited

just costlier

[vagrant finch]

Doing rifts without Lucy suck so much

[willow mirage]

what's rifts gotta do with this

[atomic moat]

Players will overprice units and they will still be unob, bcz high prices annd stuff

[lavish matrix]

In 2 years

[vagrant finch]

I dont like fomo thing

[river trellis]

no shit? that's how the economy works?

[willow mirage]

then just dont get it, you dont have to ??

it's a choice

if you really want it that bad you try trading for it

it's not even like the units are that great

[plush totem]

I think there needs to be an iq test before people make suggestions

[willow mirage]

maybe a few of the new bp ones are

[marble blaze]

#1367487502348324927 this guy was right

[red parrot]

💀 oh lord

[willow mirage]

it's really not that serious, it's just a game

[lavish matrix]

Make a challenge like same difficulty as rift but 15x harder and only one person can enter it at a time and only start with 100 cash to get unob unit

[river trellis]

then hop off

we're not like u

[willow mirage]

same difficulty but 15x harder 💔 make up ur mind

[atomic moat]

What are we in? In a fun game or are we just farming units so we can sell and become rich or wthvr?

[river trellis]

you're still dodging the question

why do you not want trading ingame?

[vagrant finch]

Say that to all kids wasting fathers money

[river trellis]

the devs wants them ingame

[vagrant finch]

Poor kid

[river trellis]

well, that's not our issues is it?

[willow mirage]

yes we're in a fun game and some people came early and got to get stuff that was early in the game

sometimes people leave games mid way and miss out on stuff

[atomic moat]

I literally just reponded that, to you and to @willow mirage

[marble blaze]

No, next question

[willow mirage]

and then you dont get it in the future

that's why it's limited

some people got it

[vagrant finch]

Fuk new players then

[willow mirage]

some people didnt

sometimes those people who didnt get it will be someone else

sometimes it will be you

you need to understand that

[plush totem]

I know, I think the first question should be, "What is the definition of exclusive?"

[willow mirage]

the point of it being limited is that someone doesnt have the chance to get it anymore

it comes at someone else's cost

it makes it rare

[vagrant finch]

Limited Is different from unob

[willow mirage]

gang it's literally not

a limited unit must be unobtainable after it's available time has passed

otherwise it's not limited anymore

'limited'

'less'

'fixed to a certain maximum value'

[wooden laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-water-bottle-bottle-head-gif-27083229

suggestion blacklist this guy

[vagrant finch]

Wdym, then límited meaning Is The same for unob

[willow mirage]

how does that have anything to do with this conversation tho
and how do i care about them at all

[river trellis]

limited and unob r two different things

[willow mirage]

unobtainable is just something that isnt available anymore

[vagrant finch]

Yes, they are límited, not unob

[willow mirage]

and every limited item will eventually become unobtainable

if ur argument is that a limited unit should never be unobtainable

then i want you to think about what 'limited' means to you anymore

[normal oyster]

What is this cope

[wooden laurel]

limited = will become unobtainable and is obtainable for a certain amount of time
unobtainable = was limited, no longer obtainable

why tf yall aruging

[willow mirage]

literally

[red parrot]

Just remove the concept of a limited items ❤️

[willow mirage]

literally that

[wooden laurel]

its 2 diff things

[willow mirage]

no dont

[vagrant finch]

They should make all límited units trash then, so new people dont cry for getting them

[red parrot]

Yes ❤️we ont need em

[willow mirage]

which limited unit is razy broken gng

[wooden laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1286814838235988082/1331198896990453801/image0.gif

[willow mirage]

only dante and vergil are at that level yet

[atomic moat]

Thats not the point

[willow mirage]

gilga is Z or smt

[marble blaze]

This was a thing with the old dev team and nobody grinded them

[vagrant finch]

Png lock

[wooden laurel]

esdeath and diavolo are right there

[willow mirage]

diavolo a vanguard gng

[wooden laurel]

so what

[willow mirage]

i dont like the idea but it is what it is

[wooden laurel]

he still limited

[vagrant finch]

Having meta units limited Is ass

[willow mirage]

yeah i agree

i dont like the idea of limited meta units either

[red parrot]

I wonder how much esdeath is gonna go for 🤔💭

[willow mirage]

vanguards dont have to be like that and im pretty sure they're changing it

[river trellis]

but he's not broken

[willow mirage]

starting with vsjw

[wooden laurel]

just get them while you can yo

[fathom magnet]

I completely agree with this approach. Introducing a hard-level stage with unique mechanics (like Rift or Cid Raid style) would add exciting challenges for players while also giving new players a chance to obtain older, previously unavailable units. The % drop chance combined with an exclusive currency system is a great way to balance effort and reward, and the option to guarantee the unit after grinding ensures fairness. Rotating these stages weekly or bi-weekly keeps the content fresh, and adding new skins for returning units is a brilliant way to reward veteran players who already own them. This system would create hype for both new and OG players, making the game more inclusive and dynamic. Overall, it’s a win-win for the community.

[river trellis]

?

[willow mirage]

chat gpt ahh

that HAS to be ai gng

[red parrot]

Where dis come from

[marble blaze]

Why dont you gift us nitro instead of relying on ai to chat

[fathom magnet]

?

[vagrant finch]

I prefer a rotative shop with a special currency, or robux, so i dont need to trade with randoms

[wooden laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255547054105690222/1368634417161048064/bro-just-typing-shit-atm.gif

[fathom magnet]

[red parrot]

Wrong reply

[marble blaze]

Glad you didnt agree with that

[red parrot]

WRONG REPLY

[vagrant finch]

What Is The problem with US folks

[fathom magnet]

Us?

It’s just u buddy

[red parrot]

I agree with this idea because it provides a balanced and engaging way to reintroduce limited or unobtainable units, benefiting both new and veteran players. Introducing a hard-stage mode with unique mechanics and a percent-based drop chance adds meaningful challenge and replay value, while a currency exclusive to this mode ensures that even unlucky players can eventually earn the unit. The addition of a timed rotation—whether weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly—keeps the content fresh and gives players something to look forward to regularly. Offering alternate skins for returning units is a great incentive for original owners, letting them show off their legacy while still keeping the content relevant for newer players. Overall, this system promotes fairness, player engagement, and community excitement without undermining the exclusivity or value of previously released content.

[willow mirage]

😭 🙏

[outer harbor]

Why have i been summoned

Oh

[atomic moat]

Just mentioned that you told me to post here instead of the other suggestion

[outer harbor]

Right

[atomic moat]

Apparently ppl are not pleased with the idea of the suggestion, some being a lil agressive with theyr opinions kk

[outer harbor]

Yeah average suggestions channel moment

I personally do not mind the idea

But then again this would butcher the “trading economy”

Which apparently alot of people care for

[willow mirage]

nah rather than trading

[atomic moat]

Yh, I get the trading POV

[desert lodge]

Trading is so cringe lmao

[willow mirage]

what about the idea that they are 'limited'

i mean someone eventually said 'stop with the limited meta units' and i entierly agree with that

[atomic moat]

Limited content should be strict to cosmetic purposes imo

[willow mirage]

hm true

but i mean there's only a few rare cases of limited meta units right

[outer harbor]

Limited content keeps the game alive

[willow mirage]

they shld def stop with the limited vanguards

[red parrot]

Just bring Rengoku back and I’ll be a happy man

[willow mirage]

but the rest are just there for being there right

[willow mirage]

mmmm

but then if you remove the limited part from it

[red parrot]

yurp

[willow mirage]

by bringing them back

[atomic moat]

I'll be happy with a dancing unit on track t_t

[willow mirage]

then is it really limited content anymore

[atomic moat]

Do they? How so?

[outer harbor]

I mean not really

[willow mirage]

that's the problem

[outer harbor]

Fomo content keeps games alive in general, they scare players into playing so they don’t miss out on stuff

[willow mirage]

it's understandable that people are annoyed for not being able to get a unit they like that is now unob cuz it was limited

[willow mirage]

yeahhh

and the problem with this is that eventually someone will miss out

[atomic moat]

I see

[willow mirage]

some new player in the future

or someone who was just taking a break

[outer harbor]

Pre sure every gacha game uses that practice nowadays

[atomic moat]

thats why I don't play these games in general

[willow mirage]

and that's also what makes it limited

that some people have it and some people dont have the chance anymore

[river trellis]

No.

It brings them in money,

no reason for them to stop doing it

[outer harbor]

Yes we get it

[river trellis]

clearly 99% of the people in here suggestion does not...

[atomic moat]

imo devs should keep the player base, and community bcz they are making a rlly good game, not by insiting fomo on players

[outer harbor]

Literally never happening LOL

[atomic moat]

But I get, the logic behind it

[marble blaze]

You have to make a game and a business at the same time

[river trellis]

so the devs cannot make

money?

[marble blaze]

So not possible

[atomic moat]

there's other ways to make money

[desert lodge]

Tbf, most of the unob limited were alr powercreep

[willow mirage]

yeah okay wtv

[atomic moat]

IK

[willow mirage]

always that same argument

[river trellis]

such as, what?

[red parrot]

Money this money that

[willow mirage]

i understand that they would want money but that's their side of the story

[willow mirage]

our arguments were purely on the basis of a players standpoint

[outer harbor]

Well fomo content isn’t the only way to maximize profits, its just one of the best ways to do so while keeping players hooked

[atomic moat]

Cosmetics moslty, but if you're creative you can make money in a million different forms

[willow mirage]

what the devs feel is a third and final opinion

and yes it absolutely decides whether a suggestion will be added

so you dont have to tell us that they're getting money

we know

[marble blaze]

Arent cosmetic bundles the most sold things rn

I would risk to say more bought than traits in general

[river trellis]

yeah, they are

nobody buying them rerolls no more

[outer harbor]

Obviously

Who actually buys rr’s anymore

[red parrot]

[outer harbor]

Idk they could heavily invest in the cosmetic side of the game like in fortnite

Sell mounts, Unit skins special player cosmetic options idk

[atomic moat]

Exaclty

[outer harbor]

But nothing does it like Fomo content

Its literally the meta for money and player retention

[atomic moat]

Good to know

[river trellis]

i wish but unfortunately they cannot cook on cosmetics themselves
paying the balance team $20k usd monthly but when it comes to cosmetics their budget at max is deadass $10

[red parrot]

Zorutan is typing…

[signal lotus]

Yea I'm here to make another obvious statement

[signal lotus]

I believe FOMO content is moreso the trash fastfood version of keeping people playing
Old games didn't need that crap
It's just the most braindead easy way to funnel profits and make people mentally ill
That and people got used to all these predatory practices, especially on mobile and roblox

TL;DR: Genuenly good games don't need it

[atomic moat]

My thoughts exactly

[outer harbor]

Well obviously

But av is FAR from that

[red parrot]

Never getting there🥀

[signal lotus]

Well yea definitely

[outer harbor]

Its how the game is designed that Fomo is quite literally a need

Or how atd games are designed in general

I mean a good example of this is awtd

It tried its best to stray away from fomo

[red parrot]

I love awtd

[outer harbor]

And lean into good gameplay

Look how its doing

💔

[signal lotus]

Its also worth mentioning that due to other games doing FOMO, you are almost forced to do it too
If a player has to choose between 2 games, 1 with a limited event going rn, and another they can just return to, they will likely go to the limited "to get it real quick"

[outer harbor]

Exactly

[atomic moat]

So they keeping players for all the wrong reasons ;/

[outer harbor]

I would imagine that you would have to completely overhaul the current atd system if you don’t want fomo

[signal lotus]

It's too bad these things are very difficult to test, because I would love to see if limited-time skins would be enough of a replacement

[red parrot]

Bro wat miso

[outer harbor]

Well sure it could act as a replacement but it won’t be as impactful as units/content

[red parrot]

Where’s that Aizen skin at???

[outer harbor]

Ts pmo

[red parrot]

WHAT DID I DO???

[signal lotus]

The next replacement I'd experiment with is rotational/seasonal events
Technically, things would be limited, but you'd always eventually be able to get more
But the time between should be big enough that most people consider it the same as true limited ("I don't wanna wait till winter")
I guess I'm just gonna have to see it for myself when I get there

[outer harbor]

Again look at awtd

They do the same thing

[signal lotus]

I'll go check it, I never heard of it (I was dragged into this one (by that i mean AV))

[outer harbor]

Yet they are unsuccessful

Awtd onlt has decent gameplay and a very good reputation

But actually being an endgame player sucks

[red parrot]

I like their Ultra Boss Cid mechanics
-# was it called ultra boss??

[outer harbor]

The one that flys around?

[signal lotus]

opening any other ATD game gives such whiplash by just the visuals man

[red parrot]

Pretty sure that’s Super Boss

[outer harbor]

What the hell is a ultra boss

Im a unc in awtd now ig

[robust anvil]

Excellent idea! I suggested the same thing awhile ago but all these kids didn’t like the idea

[royal hamlet]

real kids are the ones who dont understand the word "unobtainable"

[atomic moat]

Whats an unc? I see ppl calling other like that

[tame lance]

Uncle

[outer harbor]

Unc = uncle

[tame lance]

Indicating that they are from an older/more out of touch generation

[outer harbor]

Usually someone old or out of touch

[atomic moat]

Like older Roblox players? lmao

[outer harbor]

💔

[robust anvil]

I understand what’s an unobtainable is, what I’m saying is that concept is stupid and shouldn’t be a thing

[red parrot]

It’s the new type of boss they released for their last New Years Updae

I’m trying to find where they put the mechanics

[robust anvil]

I don’t what limited air unobtainables to exist

[royal hamlet]

trading will be a thing in the future

[atomic moat]

Apparently its a fomo thing, and it works for business purposes

[robust anvil]

Do you understand?

[outer harbor]

Literally have not played eversince senku was in abyss

[royal hamlet]

yes and that does not matter, thats how the genre works, there are compromises in game for this

[robust anvil]

Stupid predatory game design

[tame lance]

Av cant decide anything for itself 😭😭😭 copied aa traits, aa story, aa legend stage, aa raids, aa evoes, aa stat rerolls, and now aa trading

[robust anvil]

That don’t need to be doing that

[wooden laurel]

fr bro

[atomic moat]

I agree, but some ppl like it, so what can we do? Not invest time and money

[royal hamlet]

it doesnt even matter that much

[robust anvil]

Exactly, they don’t need to do everything aa or other tds do

Trading is worthless

[tame lance]

If trading becomes the endgame im just gonna quit

[atomic moat]

Same

[royal hamlet]

can’t call it lost if it keeps coming back

[signal lotus]

okay this game has way too many issues to accurately tell if its the limiteds
like holy shit i cant even figure out how to get into a level
Everything is in the wrong order, its just, what the hell bruh

[royal hamlet]

yeah

[robust anvil]

“Some ppl” are idiots, and I don’t really care about what they think

[robust anvil]

That’s what I’m saying

[outer harbor]

Idk im kinda unc in awtd

When i was playing it wasn’t that hard to navigate ui

[red parrot]

Damn

[tame lance]

Av aa and als are literally the exact same text but in different fonts

Als and aa might be in comic sans but the text is still the same

[low hatch]

trading

[red parrot]

I found it

[tame lance]

L trader

[low hatch]

read what word unobatainable means

or limited

oooor exclusive

[signal lotus]

it means ruining a game and its balance lol

[tame lance]

Thats not my point you buffoon

[signal lotus]

it means not playing the game

[atomic moat]

Yh, prolly gonna quit

[tame lance]

Trading will kill the game

[low hatch]

🤷‍♂️

why would devs make diavolo return

[tame lance]

Upds gonna boil down to “lemme just grind this absurd unit so i can trade for this other unit”

Youre literally working a job at that point

[tame lance]

Why not? Why is there reruns in gacha?

[low hatch]

because https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/limited

[atomic moat]

We know what the word mean my man

[low hatch]

yes make all units return so all my grinding is wasted

[atomic moat]

Thats not the point

[tame lance]

Yeah so you admit the game is shit and you only play for rewards

That is slavery

[atomic moat]

Its such a narrow vision

[low hatch]

thats how gacha games works

[tame lance]

No the game can actually be fun

[low hatch]

i enjoy getting something rare or limited

[tame lance]

Shocker i know

[low hatch]

especially when you got that rare limited unit that turns out is good

[red parrot]

"If they come back it’s whatever if they don’t it’s whatever"
-# I’m just sayin shit

[tame lance]

So you want to gatekeep?

[low hatch]

thats the meaning of exclusive unit

[red parrot]

Good for 1-2 updates😔

[atomic moat]

Apparently the whole atd comunnity genre are like that

[tame lance]

Yeah maybe we can have some exclusives and not EVERY SINGLE UNIT THAT COMES OUT

[atomic moat]

Collect Rare units so I can feel the reward of having them

[tame lance]

Theres tournaments for that

Infinite

[atomic moat]

But please, dont let other ppl feel it too

[tame lance]

Wordlines

[low hatch]

collect limited units so others can get them later

trading was confirmed since atleast update 1

[red parrot]

"High Value for the while then Lower Value after a long while"

[tame lance]

Why punish people for not playing the game? You can reward dedicated players without shitting on casual players

[atomic moat]

Its not even "not playing the game" its more like, not playin the game at a certain point of the game

You can be a new dedicated player, but you'll never be an OG

[low hatch]

Why punish players who played during the time when Unit X was available, only to make it unobtainable for months and then bring it back again?

[tame lance]

This doesnt even make any sense

[low hatch]

then maybe read again

[tame lance]

Anyone else in the room gets what he means

How tf are you punished

The grind is shit?

The grind is shit regardless if you play it now or 5 months later

[low hatch]

that i grinded something limited for it to not be limited

[atomic moat]

Exaclty

[low hatch]

why not just delete the exclusive rarity then

make any unit obtainable forever

[tame lance]

We have competitive exclusives

Those merit the status

[low hatch]

💀

why not bring those back too?

[low hatch]

you wanna gatekeep those?

[tame lance]

Lol what makes a raid unit worth being exclusive

[low hatch]

save me

please

[tame lance]

Because they are collectibles not fucking meta units

They can stay exclusive

[low hatch]

maybe in the future someone will want mahito because he likes him in the anime

[tame lance]

Yes can you not read im saying they can stay exclysive oml

[low hatch]

why gatekeep

[outer harbor]

I love fomo…

[tame lance]

Because those are COMPETITIVE you arent competing to get gogeta

[atomic moat]

Not you Miso, nooo 😭

[low hatch]

so you want all exclusives to be obtainable but tourney units no

[modern gulch]

[atomic moat]

@low hatch all units could return at some point regardless of method of obtainment

[low hatch]

@atomic moat great, now why. Why make then limited in the first place.

[tame lance]

Yes because why tf should a raid unit or worldlines unit be exclusive

[signal lotus]

Exactly! They shouldnt have been limited in the first place.

[atomic moat]

Exaclty, there's no point in making them limited in the first place

[signal lotus]

2 entirely different people saying almost 1:1 the same thing, its almost like its true

[low hatch]

because the devs said so 😭

[atomic moat]

And if you are playing the game just to collect limited units, good for you I guess

[tame lance]

Exactly there is no good reason for them to be exclusive

[modern gulch]

trading

[low hatch]

yes make trading with only 6 tourney units youre right

[atomic moat]

Apparently ppl are satisfied with trading being the end game content

[tame lance]

Why tf does this game needing an entire fucking international stock market for trading

[atomic moat]

Good for dev pockets, quoting some ppl pov, not mine

[tame lance]

Why force EVERYONE to trade for units when a good chunk of people clearly dont want to

[outer harbor]

Atd player mindset

(WHY THE — IS THERE A 30 SECOND CD NOW IN THIS CHANNEL)

[modern gulch]

so people think before sending anything

[tame lance]

Gotta make another suggestion to revert that change lol cant even argue in suggestions anymore 🥀🤧

[signal lotus]

Slowmode for thinking works just as well as a level requirement for suggestions lol
Just lock the thread like usual, there's not even a point
but of course (⬇️)

[outer harbor]

Oh its just this thread thank god

[lost valley]

Theres no reason for them to return except for wanting to collect units. They are so outdated now

[atomic moat]

Some are, some aren't. Some are still high tier in support for infinite leaderboards

[tame lance]

Esdeath subaru giselle and soon choy are plenty valuable what

[fathom magnet]

All are valueless

[modern gulch]

true

[signal lotus]

Oh great then let us obtain them

[tame lance]

You talking to me?

[rare rose]

what the point of this

[atomic moat]

In conclusion, AV follows a format in the genre of ATD, there's no point in even making suggestions like this (wich I've learned), some players like the format of limited content and trading, so AA is not changing the mold, and if we're not ok with how things work we should just quit

[primal bridge]

aa 💔

[lost valley]

are you including wordlines?

[tame lance]

Illusion of choice smh theres a stage on sunday, wonder how much important feedback will get through 🤧🥀💔

[signal lotus]

"uhhh maybe"

[lost valley]

Why would wordlines units return when theres a new worldline unit every 0.5 update?

[tame lance]

Theres is many ways to create rerun events what are you even saying

[lost valley]

Why are u being weird, "What are u even saying"

[modern gulch]

new events > old reruns

[tame lance]

They could make a new mode like the LITERAL ORIGINAL POSTER was saying IN HIS POST or literally so many other things

[tame lance]

Not true because both can be done simultaneously look at how much revenue wuwa generated with the simultaneous anniversary and zani banners?

[atomic moat]

New Events + Old reruns, hbt?

[primal bridge]

why r u comparing wuwa to av

[iron river]

does someone not have esdeath💔

[primal bridge]

terrible comparison

[tame lance]

Why not.

“Ooo av is a roblox slop game therefore we should have no standards for it” 🥀

[primal bridge]

because its a completely different type of game? av is a tower defense while wuwa is an rpg

[tame lance]

That literally doesnt matter in this context

Tf are you on

We are comparing the reward systems

[iron river]

can you trade in wuwa

[tame lance]

Can you trade in av?

[lost valley]

But why would they make them return, they were obtainable for a very long time, if u didnt get them oh well.

[iron river]

soon lol

[tame lance]

“There will be trading! Guys!” 🥀

rip miso refreshed his cd

[red parrot]

They really put 30 seconds in this bs

[iron river]

if theres trading and its limited it means we arent getting reruns cause it ruins value

[outer harbor]

Wouldn’t need trading if reruns exist

[modern gulch]

focusing dev effort on new events >

[lost valley]

this suggestion is mid

[fathom magnet]

Reported gg ur cooked buddy

[outer harbor]

Sorry sometimes i get ahead of myself, need to filter myself sometimes yo

[iron river]

why bro reacting to a message rhat disagrees with him 😭😭

[tame lance]

Lol yeah tell me how you like these past few updates

[lost valley]

few updates, how many updates we talking

[atomic moat]

[red parrot]

Why tf did they add 30s in here 😭

[jovial topaz]

cuz the owner of the post can add slowmode

[outer harbor]

No

[tame lance]

Yeah name which new event this game recently released excites you lol

[jovial topaz]

yes he can

[atomic moat]

it wasn't even me

[outer harbor]

I love portal grinds…

[lost valley]

events are good but to little content nothing to do about

[red parrot]

Remove portals I hate them

Idc bwo

[tame lance]

Which event name it

[outer harbor]

Its a free content farm…

[jovial topaz]

can we get a portal grind update and you HAVE to play with 4 people to even start hte portal and there's a new unit worth 1 million of the new currency and you get 10 per ocmpletion that takes 15 minutes

[red parrot]

😔 only thing that deserves a rework is them darn element reactions

[jovial topaz]

[outer harbor]

Never happening lol

[red parrot]

It will one day bro trust

[iron river]

and that damn odyssey mode

[royal hamlet]

not really, just fix bugs and thats it

[outer harbor]

I have 0 faith in this dev team

[fathom magnet]

Rework the rework

[jovial topaz]

holy element is the only time they really even matter and even then it's still a lame mechanic

[tame lance]

Its okay now but its still kind of a shell of a roguelike mode

[red parrot]

Fuck that bum ass game mode 😔🙏 remove that shit immediately bro

[signal lotus]

Hear me out they should play ads for extra revenous on slowmode
Hire me dear investors im so good at this

[lost valley]

Sjw update, Ruined city is fun, Rifts are good, Boss events are good, Portals are well made, Wordlines is a cool thing, Occult was well made.

[fathom magnet]

Just say u suck

[atomic moat]

Yes efforts need to be very focused, or else we get another updt with 1k bugs

[tame lance]

Occult and well made ☠️☠️☠️

[jovial topaz]

I only dislike the god statue stage on odyssey cuz if u can't cycle out 2 monarchs per team ur basically fried if u get back to back god statues

[iron river]

you not getting tester brochacho

[tame lance]

Why are they fun id like to hear your reasoning

[cloud sedge]

Make ALL bp units obtained from a rift thats harder than e thing in the game(even wjth best dps units) and make all vanguards obtained after their event ended that has a rste of 0.0000000001

[lost valley]

Ur acting like a whole ass nerd LOL

[atomic moat]

They just have different standards for games

[jovial topaz]

2 cids no birb im being shafted

[outer harbor]

Its fun cause uh… i get to slave away or put up my mango for easy rewards…

[tame lance]

This you? @lost valley

[jovial topaz]

fuck this game im just gonna go grind bc in pgr now

[outer harbor]

So?

[primal bridge]

if u dont like the game just dont play it?? 😭 nobody is forcing you

[lost valley]

?

[red parrot]

Did you ever see that message I put the Ultra Boss Cid (awtd) mechanics?

I’ll just send another screenshot

[jovial topaz]

pgr> genshin any day btw

[cloud sedge]

Hakura rin shouldn’t return so i can overprice her aswell as diavolo

[outer harbor]

I did not see

[tame lance]

I want to play the game genius its an anime crossover game but the grind is so fucking ass

[atomic moat]

Exactly, but you only learn about a game and its comunnity by playing

[iron river]

they should make half hourly challenges 5 rr each clear and make daily the same as weekly and weekly should be all rr you can get in 168 hours 😁

[outer harbor]

I agree but im kinda addicted to the genshin grind

[jovial topaz]

ur trying to aura farm in a roblox anime tower defense server sylau

[cloud sedge]

only exclusive idc that returns is the dandandan units because they’re hot ass and no value

[primal bridge]

which grind is ass all of them are reasonable

[lost valley]

Aura farm 🤡

[red parrot]

INCORRECT
-# I am bored

[primal bridge]

which one then
u say incorrect and then nothing

[jovial topaz]

roblox games in general tend to have awful grind

[cloud sedge]

you mean those cashgrabs

[outer harbor]

Grind so good that the majority of the playerbase mangos

[red parrot]

I’m just saying shit too annoy people

[iron river]

lets all hop on arise crossovers with their amazing hp system 😂🤞

[atomic moat]

Yh, those fomo cashgrabs Rblx games

[primal bridge]

"majority of the playerbase" is so untrue

[jovial topaz]

yea roblox games

[tame lance]

Winter, love, choy, bounty, occult, familiar rr, vsjw quest

[jovial topaz]

familiar rrs aren't the worst thing to grind but I agree w everything else

[primal bridge]

vsjw quest gives u by far the best unit in the game, obviously the quest will be time consuming 😂

[iron river]

notice how rifts aint here yhwach is my goat

[cloud sedge]

Familiars can be a WHOLE ASS trait

[outer harbor]

“A large portion”

[jovial topaz]

seeing monarch ywach do 10 mil dmg in one attack fries my dopamine receptors

[tame lance]

Rifts are in disaster category bc youd be lucky to even play it every 6 hrs

[lost valley]

Every grind in the game is ass for you 😭

[outer harbor]

Yeah because games are supposed to be fun…

[tame lance]

Yes it is because i have to mango every single one to even hope to get the rewards im not unemployed

[jovial topaz]

this i agree w but there was def a better way to implement it other than repeating the same map over and over again

[iron river]

lets turn av into a battleground arena and you have to grind the units to play them 😂😂

[lost valley]

Tower defense games have never been fun, you only play it because theres gambling in it

[jovial topaz]

you forgot we're on roblox

[primal bridge]

and again nobody is forcing you to grind that, you can make it through id say all of the game with banner units like saber and aizen

[cloud sedge]

I mostly play for the effects and units

[atomic moat]

I did too

[outer harbor]

That has got to be the most lame excuse for a game being unfun

[jovial topaz]

nanami startrail ❤️

[lost valley]

How old are you

[tame lance]

Im a senior

[jovial topaz]

ite unc

[iron river]

hey guys 150 runs without choy 😂😭 just imagine having to grind that manually

[lost valley]

have u seen people play rng games? i wonder why they are playing it

[cloud sedge]

200 runs

[signal lotus]

braindead (afk)

[tame lance]

Yeah and people try and defend that shit saying its reasonable and a good event like what ?!?!?

[outer harbor]

Roblox games can be fun…

Its just that devs would rather prioritize giving players an dopamine rushes via gambling and farming engagement with idle content

[iron river]

imagine having to grind that manually btw

[lost valley]

Av (afk)

[cloud sedge]

Yea I agree with shit like 1% units, they need a soft pity

[jovial topaz]

obviously it's possible to make gacha games w fun gameplay and balance it out with grinding as well. example pgr

[red parrot]

Someting they’ll never do

[tame lance]

Kitawari’s RNG goes hard 🔥🔥🔥

[outer harbor]

Punishing gray raven?

I haven’t played it lol

[lost valley]

Thats the tower defense genre for the last 6 games

[cloud sedge]

ESPECIALLY someone like choy since he’s limited on a map that takes a long ass time

[jovial topaz]

it's really good past story 8 and once u get through story 14 there isn't a lot of stick in the mud type content

[iron river]

too bad the good roblox games (passion projects) take 4 months for an update 💔

[tame lance]

*aa genre

Every single recent atd has copied aa formula

[outer harbor]

Game genre?

[lost valley]

what i just said

[jovial topaz]

hack n slash

[tame lance]

You said and i quote “tower defense”

[outer harbor]

Might check out pgr but kinda have my hands full atm wirh FGO and HSR

[atomic moat]

Id rather a 4 month good updt, with no bugs than a 2 weeks one, rushed for no reason

[lost valley]

Name 5 anime tower defense games

[iron river]

av fr

[red parrot]

Is HSR fun???
-# I just need something to do bro

[outer harbor]

Astd
Awtd
Av
Aa
Als
AD
ARX

[iron river]

av is literally the only roblox game i get bugs in frequently 💔 thats how bad it is

[lost valley]

I said 5 are u dumb

[jovial topaz]

the only thing I will say is that it's hard to start cuz some good grinding methods are locked to 80+, the beginning of story is boring, and it's confusing cuz of all the bonus events and stuff

[outer harbor]

Whats got ur panties in a loop

[red parrot]

I think banning us Elites from suggestions is a good idea 💔

[jovial topaz]

but I'd recommend to start now cuz we have 3x summon currency and 2x next upd due to the global sync theyre doing

[atomic moat]

It's the only roblox game I play, or played

[tame lance]

Anime royale, astd, awtd, that one atd with the easter thing rn, ar, apd, and prob more

Shit wrong reply

[jovial topaz]

also theyre adding vergil and dante from hit game anime vanguards

[lost valley]

Anime girl pfp and saying this. i cant say what i want to say or ill get banned

[outer harbor]

Its decent…

[tame lance]

“…” 😭

[red parrot]

imma chance you down

[jovial topaz]

heh... I can't say what I want to say. Otherwise ill get banned 😈

bro apush test just ruined me

[lost valley]

U made it sound nerdy

[jovial topaz]

give me ur lunch money pal

[lost valley]

Loser

[jovial topaz]

nande.....

btw I haven't updated my bio or touched any of those apps other than spotify in 2 years

[tame lance]

Youre punching the air rn buddy no ones trying to fight you, tough guy

Bet you smirked after you sent that

[jovial topaz]

heh! that's me! I'm just a loser.... aren't I? 😔

[tame lance]

Really my friends told me it was free

Apparently mcq section was light

[jovial topaz]

yea no I just got an awful saq& dbq prompt. the rest was light

[atomic moat]

any final words? gonna close/delete the suggestion

[misty rampart]

do NOT bring god damn diavolo back

[signal lotus]

I'd recommend only closing instead of deleting

[tame lance]

Why, keep it up

This is an important topic

[atomic moat]

With all that has been discussed here I don't think something will ever change in regards of bringing old units back, we just might have to accept that we need to buy them when/if trading comes if we keep playing the game

[outer harbor]

This kenny guy really just went to dms just to insult me for a good 5 mins

“No testosterone”
“You are not accepted by society”
“You have no real friends”

[low hatch]

i infact did not do that

[signal lotus]

So understandable, afterall, trading is for MEN only

[outer harbor]

Kenny not kennedy💔

[tame lance]

No this other bum that was tryna act tough

[atomic moat]

tf was this answer?

[signal lotus]

Kenny (not Kennedy) going nuclear in DMs just seemed so ridiculous that I felt I must make a statement just as stupid and ridiculous

[desert lodge]

If people invest time on trading, might asqell imvest on market stocks

[tame lance]

Kenny wanted trading, called the guy who disagreed with him emasculated, so the punchline is that

[atomic moat]

Oh I see

[tame lance]

You have at least 5 people here who agree with you, keep it up

[atomic moat]

A QH, handpicked by whom?

[atomic moat]

sure

[low hatch]

not me

[red parrot]

Kennedy is a shmart dude
-# I thought there was an "H" in his user

[signal lotus]

He boutta bring up the % when its not even relevant

[tame lance]

Bro is so mad 😭
Tryna pack a discord user

[red parrot]

He a lil angy

[tame lance]

im going to hate on “men with no testosterone” bc they seem to be happy with who they are while im frustrated with myself and being accepted!

[atomic moat]

@outer harbor in your experience, how trade works in other atd games?

[outer harbor]

You are asking the wrong guy lol

Last time i was invested in trading was astd

I still don’t really get the appeal behind it besides getting unobtainable units and robux items for free

[atomic moat]

So the currency will prolly be robux for trades?

[outer harbor]

No, anything unobtainable will be tradable

Skins, units, familiars and im guessing robux bundles will be tradable too

[atomic moat]

Hm, Ig

[atomic moat]

Unob bundle = robux 😂

[desert lodge]

As long as they dont do it like ad, we re fine

[tame lance]

echoed the idea behind your suggestion in a suggestion of my own

hopefully people are more open minded than here

[iron river]

wdym kanji list for 9 units

[tame lance]

the kanji tier has 9 limited units

[iron river]

can you name them cause i dont see any unit being kanji list unless irs diavolo

[tame lance]

yuha, dante, vergil, rem, katakuri, gogeta, choi, esdeath and cid are all limited

[desert lodge]

Most of them are for inf tho

[last musk]

cid isnt limited

i dont think yuha is either

[tame lance]

he literally has a limited tag
and they literally said they are going to rotate the rifts

[last musk]

he does not have a limited tag

[iron river]

theyll fall off, only esdeath maybe cause gogeta value is eh

[tame lance]

okay so 8 uints

[iron river]

pretty sure aizen and valentine has one but they arent limited, just to showcase the time you got them😭 💔

[iron river]

yhwach will probably be like boss rush where it cycles once more rifts are added

[tame lance]

anyways thats what i want for the game

gating units behind the "unobtainable" tag is just annoying

[iron river]

never happening, the devs just want their moolah from b o ts and alts from mangoing

[atomic moat]

Great suggestion post, good luck getting your pov across

[tame lance]

SOMEONE with cc role has to confront them about ts

during the stage

yet no one does

[iron river]

theres a reason why av doesnt have 279k players sctive btw, the b ots arent here yet cause theres no trading

the player spike will see a massive increase once trading is added especially with limited vanguards like gogeta and diavolo

[tame lance]

they have been vocal about banning bots, so hopefully they have some honor

[wooden laurel]

yhwach isnt limited i asked kamui a while ago he told me it aint

[fathom magnet]

what does he know 🙄

[robust anvil]

He will be removed

[low hatch]

no

[robust anvil]

Yes

They said they would add more rift units right?

[low hatch]

maybe check the OFFICIAL wiki

[sonic raptor]

Yes plz I tryna get shiny esdeath💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏😍

[low hatch]

he doesnt have the limited tag, so hes not limited/exclusive to a time period

[robust anvil]

lol does esdeath have the limited tag? What about Subaru? And what about s rank fire guy?? You don’t know what you’re talking about

[low hatch]

they are limited

[sonic raptor]

They're limited bro💔

[robust anvil]

They are secrets like the rift unit

[sonic raptor]

And he is clearly a question helper how could you even say that he didn't know what he was talking about? He won't get such a role without a good knowledge in this game

[low hatch]

ok, and? Ragna is secret too and HE is limited.

[robust anvil]

I have more knowledge than him

[sonic raptor]

Secrets doesn't mean shit💔
Ragna is a secret but he will be gone soon

[low hatch]

you clearly dont bud✌️ worldline units wont return

[sonic raptor]

Probably rage baiting

[robust anvil]

That’s a Secret rarity not limited 💀💀💀 do you know what the limited rarity is? Toji and Gilgamesh are limiteds, alucard and esdeath are secrets, hope that helps

[low hatch]

theres no limited rarity 💀 its EXCLUSIVE, limited units are units that are limited to time period

[robust anvil]

Exclusive and limited are the same thing

[low hatch]

this is the worse ragebait ive seen

[robust anvil]

You’re just slow

[low hatch]

ok bud youre the slow head here, you clearly cannot understand basic english

[robust anvil]

Let me ask you are exclusives limited? Yes or no

[low hatch]

is there limited rarity in the game? yes or no

[robust anvil]

No, I ment to say exclusive

[low hatch]

then its because devs wanted him to be secret, yet limited at the same time

[robust anvil]

Yea those devs are very smart

[low hatch]

just because unit doesnt have exclusive rarity doesnt mean its not limited

should diavolo and gogeta have exclusive rarity too?

[robust anvil]

What was the point of the exclusive rarity than? Toji and Gilgamesh should have been secret and exclusive rarity should not exist

[sonic raptor]

Because the dev simply wanted to?

[twilit shell]

The way you get it is the difference on the rarity

Exclusives are are from banner event, leaderboards, limited quest and battlepass

[mortal geode]

i get what this post is saying cause esdeath so op if you didnt get her you kinda screwed for like 10 updates

[twilit shell]

And thats why they gonna add trade in the future

[robust anvil]

Why would we need trading when they can just bring her back?

[mortal geode]

even if they do, not everyone is gonna be able to get her still

[twilit shell]

Nah

[mortal geode]

make a rotating return banner for unobtainable units so they can comeback but not ALL units can comeback

[robust anvil]

Trading is worthless, bring back and rotating the limited units makes more sense and is objectively better

[twilit shell]

Thats the point of the seasonal worldlines, reward the people that complete it

Not the lazy people that didnt

[robust anvil]

I didn’t even get the first one or esdeath

[signal lotus]

not knowing about the game = lazy
🤪

[mortal geode]

yeah but then the people that dont get them cant play at a high level cause she DOUBLES up to 3 units dmg

[robust anvil]

“Lazy”?? Some of us actually have things to do in our lives and can’t spent hours grinding in a Lego game everyday

[twilit shell]

Then don't play the game

You have more than a month to complete worldlines, is not even that hard, I Made My first worldlines with starter units

You don't have a valid point, good night

[robust anvil]

I didn’t know that cuz they never told us until the last day or something they removed subaru while I was half way done 💀

[mortal geode]

your just locking out new players of getting good units

[twilit shell]

Lol

If you want good units just play the game, but the limited units won't come back

[mortal geode]

i have them all your just gatekeeping new players tho

[signal lotus]

Little timmy doesn't know how to share yet
Only one kid gets to play with the red ball!!

[twilit shell]

Only kids that are not lazy

[mortal geode]

😂

[willow mirage]

they should be but they arent

[fading tinsel]

How do limited seasonal banner units

would be obtainable again? Like i doubt that they will bring banners back, i saw the edit, your suggestion isnt bad, but if the Units are meant to unob there isnt a reason to make them ob

[atomic moat]

No point in explaining how the concept of reruns works well in other games or how unobtainable/limited content (except for cosmetic purposes imo) shouldn't even exist in the first place. Why there is no point in explaining it? Bcz this game/genre is built to engage players and profit from FOMO, trading systems etc. So the community (player base) are used to this type of games/content and don't want that to change.

[atomic moat]

The top argument people have regarding Limited/Unob. units is that a trading system will solve it, that's a wishful thinking (delusional). I've played many games where the economy surrounding a failed trade system lead to the game demise. Only players who invested or are willing to invest large amounts of money in the game (which new players usually don't do) were able to stay competitive. Bot accounts everywhere inflating the economy, etc. And trust me, no one will stay in a game full of bots that has no new players.

Also I'm new to Roblox and ATD genre, MAYBE the mold here is to engage kids for as long as you can, until they spend all theyr parents money on getting the strongest unit with the strongest trait before they move on to the next game.

[fathom magnet]

Blah blah blah

[signal lotus]

Such a massive chad! You are so cool!!

[crude hornet]

It just sucks for the people who eventually will start the game later down the line and not be able to get their favorite characters just because they haven’t played before

Also trading is such a bummy mechanic in any tds, astd did it pretty well with it being purely cosmetic though

You just play at one point of the game, get a unit, wait a bit then put it up for trade for like 1.9k robux it’s a stupid cycle

[atomic moat]

I'm sorry if you can't form a sentence or have critical thinking bud, stop playing roblox games and go back to school

[fathom magnet]

I’m not the idiot that thinks unobtainable units should be obtainable

[atomic moat]

@crude hornet exactly

[outer harbor]

Is silence the new 1970 or sum💔

[marble blaze]

I said the same, but iciqer atleast cares enough to explain anything

Silence is just his bootleg version

[verbal willow]

if they did this exclusives would no longer become exclusive

and vaguards would be glorified secrets

[outer harbor]

We don’t need 2 dawg

[fathom magnet]

What is there to explain

[safe lark]

Can you explain why you felt the need to say this

[fathom magnet]

Because the suggestion is horrid

[atomic moat]

@outer harbor @marble blaze maybe we shouldn't give stage and attention to these kids

[violet cedar]

💀

Tf is this suggestion

[atomic moat]

if you can read, and interprete basic text you would get the point of the suggestion and read the conversation around it

[violet cedar]

Make unobtainable units obtainable
Great idea
Very smart

[atomic moat]

But Ik, its really hard to do that for some ppl in this discord server

[violet cedar]

You had more than enough time to get these units. If you didnt thats on you. The only units that were somewhat difficult to get were the ddd raid units, which were ass anyways (except diavolo cause hes rare and not everyone was supposed to get him). Also you literally dont need any limited units to easily progress in the game. Vsjw is by far the best unit and guess what? hes permanent. Same with aizen and saber and many others. If you didnt get a unit with a specific mechanic you wanted, there will be more with similar if not the same mechanics in the future and i assure you they WILL be better than those old ones. You could maybe get the old units from trading but that shit is unreliable.
This suggestion is entirely pointless. Unobtainable units are unobtainable and stop whining if you didnt get them.

[atomic moat]

Really, this server should have better standards for the people they let in, but ig

[violet cedar]

Cant even form an argument💀
Straight to insulting

[atomic moat]

Argument is on the conversation which you probably didn't read

[atomic moat]

So you coming here and commenting the same things people already said without understanding the context affirming that I'm "whining" bcz a didn't get a unit it's just dumb, idk

Are you that slow or ragebaiting?

[violet cedar]

The context is that you want unobtainable units to be obtainable. Theres really nothing more to discuss other than that. Thats the main point of your argument which is just plain stupid so why would i care about any other points of it.

[atomic moat]

If you took the time to come in the chat of the suggestion to comment shit without a pov, just stating that the suggestion is stupid you should care to read the whole conversation around it, BUT I KNOW, it's hard to read

[outer harbor]

Its more that the problem is that limited units are fomo content, some people like it some don’t. I personally would prefer a system were unobtainable units are obtainable not via trading but through rerun events or progression

[violet cedar]

You know its hard to read? Ig you do experience this phenomena on a daily basis but you dont gotta announce it to everyone

[atomic moat]

Again, pointless to explain simple things to brainrot ppl, wich unf this server is full of

[outer harbor]

Temper yourself Mr.QueenElune

[twilit shell]

Anyways this suggestion won't happen, theres nothing to debate lol

[atomic moat]

Nah, im good, tired of these kids

[violet cedar]

Hypocrite

[atomic moat]

gonna close the suggestion and thats it

[outer harbor]

Yeah which was already established above

[violet cedar]

Hurry up then
Nobody wanna see ts

[twilit shell]

We already have a system with units that rotate (boss rush)

[atomic moat]

@outer harbor You need to be very patient miso

[outer harbor]

Completely unrelated but ok

[outer harbor]

Dawg what does this mean how much more patient do u want me to be 💔

[atomic moat]

Meaning you need to be very patient to explain simple things to people who don't read the conversation, and can't interprete context,and feel entitled to still comment without getting tired

[violet cedar]

Alr lets say they do add an incredibly difficult mode where you can get unobtainable units. What about bug abusers or scripters? People will still manage to find a way to automate it, and the challenging aspect will be gone entirely. Its just gonna be another mangofest update which will just make those specific units drop in trade value, which most people who DO have the unit will not like.

[outer harbor]

You are acting as if the whole game isn’t mango’ed already

Its not a matter of “trade value” but just making permanent content

Yes we understand, people who already have the limited units may not be happy which is why it was suggested that all the owners of the limited units would get a exclusive skin

But again we have already established and accepted that Av will most likely never add this so its a pointless debate

[violet cedar]

Yeah so whats the point of making another mode which you can mango. The said unobtainable units were mostly gotten by mangos too so whats the point.
And for the "permanent content", as i said the best unit in the game currently is permanent. Theres plenty permanent content which takes a while to get and is rewarding. Most people who complain about mangos and all that are day 1 players who got most of everything at the start and have good units so they dont really feel challenged

[atomic moat]

@outer harbor thank you

[violet cedar]

Roblox devs are greedy. They wont give away skins for free

[violet cedar]

I wanted to say more in my message regarding that but accidentally hit enter

[violet cedar]

I could MAYBE agree with SOME units being brought back for a short rerun, but whichever units those may be, its not happening.

[twilit shell]

The suggestion is asking for a gamemode that rotates to obtain unobtainable units, Basically make them not limited, the game already have a gamemode that rotates and gives you good units, so its almost the same thing

Players will never be satisfied with what the devs give them, that's all.

[outer harbor]

Bro yes the system is similar but does not mean its related to the topic💔

Boss rush units are not limited content nor do they let you obtain any limited units

[daring sinew]

Hiii guys

[twilit shell]

But thats what you guys want, have non limited units

[signal lotus]

Actually, what DO you trade those units for?
That is the one argument always told by traders, "it would drop in value", but watchu actually trading for?
Other limiteds? Some VIP passes? Trait Rerolls? (if that's even added anyway)
Black Market????

[twilit shell]

They will make more boss rush units in the future

[violet cedar]

Black market most likely

[daring sinew]

I’ve missed half the good units that doesn’t mean you cry to bring back a limited unit🤔

[outer harbor]

Yeah i aint explaining ts again 💔

[atomic moat]

KKKKKKKKK told you miso, is kinda pointless

[daring sinew]

There’s nothing to explain it’s limited. End of story

[fathom magnet]

This luckydragon guy might be the new 1970

[daring sinew]

I only know cooper Williams sorry

[outer harbor]

Nah you are just his shit copy

[atomic moat]

No one here is crying over not getting limited units @daring sinew we are debating so much more, if you only read the whole conversation and understood other players pov

[outer harbor]

Well to be fair aint no one wants to read theough 700+ messages

[daring sinew]

I’m not reading an essay full of conversations, im going off your title alone and I disagree with it

[atomic moat]

Then don't comment if you dont have the whole context T_T

[daring sinew]

if you have a different opinion make your title more clear, not my issue

[atomic moat]

Very smart, your opinion is very valid, thank you sr

[outer harbor]

TLDR: some people dont like fomo content, which limited units are.

We have already established that rhis will most likely never come and accepted that. Anything more and its just a pointless debate

[daring sinew]

Yeah fomo is dogshit but instead of asking for returns of limited units ask for future units to not have fomo anymore

[outer harbor]

Yes we already understand💔

[daring sinew]

Then why is this suggestion titled what it is?😭😭

[outer harbor]

I aint the poster

[fathom magnet]

• claims the argument is pointless
• continues to argue

[daring sinew]

Shutup 1970

[outer harbor]

I agree ☝️

[violet cedar]

@river trellis stfu

[tame lance]

National level ragebaiter

[atomic moat]

Lacking attention at home

[outer harbor]

Why is the real one actually catching strays😭

[violet cedar]

He deserves them

[tame lance]

Hes chill now i think

[outer harbor]

Meh, he just doesn’t talk as much in suggestions which most of his shit takes come from and still has some really bad ones in gen 2

[queen skiff]

crazy strays 😭

[sterile nest]

Lol

[fathom magnet]

Fake cc get out

[sterile nest]

Not our fault you quit the game 🤣🤣
Sorry for your loss - this is not happening

[red parrot]

Wats sup guys

[atomic moat]

Thank you, much aprecciated insight

[sterile nest]

Ight bud stop stalking me

[fathom magnet]

Stalking? I was here first

[red parrot]

[sterile nest]

You stalk me every channel I go

You must be a fan 🤔

[tough swallow]

if we all stop typing in this thread it will finally close

[tame lance]

“Heh, too bad you’re not level 574 with 2.5k hours on the game like me, a true gamer ”

[fathom magnet]

Looks like ur the fan

[outer harbor]

Why are we “coming again” this can only mean what i think it does…

[sterile nest]

Ight bud 💀

[tame lance]

He cooked with you that icl

[sterile nest]

He asked for subs that's why 💔

[jovial topaz]

please don't reportt me sir

[tame lance]

Whyd you give it to him 💀

[sterile nest]

Coz uh idk

Bro zorutan get your point across you been typing for a year 😭

[atomic moat]

Let him, take your time bud

[wooden laurel]

can we close this bumass suggestion already

[sterile nest]

Real

[atomic moat]

Do you have the power to do so?

[daring sinew]

@fathom magnet 1970 do you agree

[sterile nest]

He doesn't need the power coz we know it's inevitable

[fathom magnet]

some people dont like fomo content, which limited units are. We have already established that rhis will most likely never come and accepted that. Anything more and its just a pointless debate

[wooden laurel]

@last musk i beg you please close this

[atomic moat]

I will, just waiting for Zoru

[sterile nest]

@smoky wadi
You might be asleep but if this still up close it

[versed wadi]

Leminsuka | DM/@ for Bugs is AFK: take care of yourself - 4 hours ago

[signal lotus]

Check the definition of slave
I wonder why, despite slave meaning "not free person", they made the slaves free when slavery was abolished!
It's almost like, just because something means something, doesn't make it how things SHOULD be

In case you haven't connected the dots yet, if the only reason you grinded for something was because "its limited", you were psychologically exploited to do something you don't give a shit about
Was a few euros or a couple hundred trait shards worth the hours you put in to get the limited units? Was it now?
If you only wanted it for monetary gain, then let me introduce you to something called "employment" which gives you several hundred times the monetary gain than some virtual figurines
If you did it because you like the character... finish kindergarten? Learn the basics of sharing is caring?? Nothing justifies that type of gatekeeping

Because lets be honest here, you did NOT do it "because you had fun", most people just put on some crappy script to do the job for them. Hence they deserve those limited things no more than anyone in the past or future. Not to mention, if you did it for fun, you wouldn't care if others could do the same.

[daring sinew]

I’m not reading all that

[sterile nest]

Not reading allat

[signal lotus]

Of course you won't
It doesn't matter if you do, you are objectively wrong regardless
Enjoy being exploited

[wintry helm]

why the hell you started you message talking about slave

[wooden laurel]

i read allat and u got no point

[wintry helm]

whatever
can someone reply the original message so i can see the op idea

[sterile nest]

Ohhh don't cry
Just because you are but hurt

[fathom magnet]

They’re not gonna change something just cause you don’t feel like doing it

[tame lance]

Cooked him, too bad he cant read

[outer harbor]

Nah he aint wrong

[wooden laurel]

op comment

[atomic moat]

Thank you, your opinion is aprecciated and valid

[tame lance]

The fact that the game is predatory is not a point?

[wooden laurel]

yet you still play it and so do i whats ur point

[daring sinew]

This game is not that serious, WHY are we connecting it to slavery😭✌️

[sterile nest]

Fr

[wooden laurel]

hop on als its better anyway ✌️ ✌️✌️

[signal lotus]

Part of the point!

[tame lance]

Because predatory video game behavior is literally challengeable in court

[tender raft]

has this ragebait been working so far

[wooden laurel]

then go sue the owners 😭

[daring sinew]

bro? Fomo for a fucking unit has no relation to predatory behavior or slavery

[tame lance]

Im a minor i cant represent myself in court

[tender raft]

Going to court over not being able to control yourself and spending money on a game is crazy

[abstract horizon]

why tho, theres no unob unit thats needed for anything

[outer harbor]

Eh fomo though?

[tame lance]

Who said i was spending money?

[daring sinew]

Yeah let’s compare being forced to work in a field to being forced to get a limited unit in ANIME VANGUARDS

[sterile nest]

They defo talking abt suburu and esdeath but that's on them LOL

[tender raft]

also why is there a 30s cooldown on the suggestions channel 💔

[atomic moat]

A lot of reasons

[outer harbor]

Its only this one in particular

[wooden laurel]

kamui save us and close this

[abstract horizon]

you dont need them for anything tho, like you rarely actually need buffs to beat anything

[grizzled yarrow]

I hope next update units do 100m dps and Are only available for 7 minutes

[tender raft]

The point was that you're the one to blame for whatever you do in the game, be it wasting your life away on it or spending too much money on it

[sterile nest]

Esdeath needed for multiple tourneys and is vergils best partner

[fathom magnet]

[abstract horizon]

mochi is vergils best partner rn, but yea i can kinda see esdeath

[grizzled yarrow]

yo look what i got

[wooden laurel]

sorry that was mean

[sterile nest]

Why we lying 💀

[fathom magnet]

Mochi isn’t his best partner since slow doesn’t affect him

[tender raft]

thats ccwwl not goatkuna great try

[abstract horizon]

deaduzz? i thought it did

[sterile nest]

Bug hunter can't read

[fathom magnet]

Bro do we not read the passives 💀

[abstract horizon]

i dont got vergil vro

[wooden laurel]

ts lwk hurt my eyes

[sterile nest]

Then don't speak if you have no idea what you're talking about

[daring sinew]

If there’s a paragraph defending the relation to slavery I might get pmoed

[abstract horizon]

nuh uh, i wanna tho

[grizzled yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[wooden laurel]

then get a lawyer and sue av

[tame lance]

My point was never that we should sue av. My point was that there are ethical boundaries to predatory design and while this scenario may not be illegal it certainly is unethical

[tender raft]

no we should sue av

[daring sinew]

Wdym? Sue av

[sterile nest]

Please kamui end this suggestion I'm tired of seeing ts

[signal lotus]

You really are not slick always appearing when someone makes an uncounterable point, talking about completely unrelated shit
Have fun I guess.

[abstract horizon]

whats your opionon on the political geographical state of the world right now

[wooden laurel]

noooo i want to farm more xp

[tender raft]

do you even get xp in suggestions

[daring sinew]

I take this as you realizing your reference was wrong, thanks

[tame lance]

No

[outer harbor]

You don’t get exp in suggestions man💔

[abstract horizon]

ngl i shoulda got esdeath

[atomic moat]

If you are tired leave my boy, the only reason this chat is like this is bcz a lot of you came here to start fires, instead of joining the conversation around whats been brought up here

[red parrot]

Shh don’t tell him that

[wooden laurel]

pretty sure i got some xp a while ago but its whatever ig

[abstract horizon]

insane

[sterile nest]

I already gave my point but some ppl here wanna give their stupid points that have no relation to the main point

[tame lance]

The ethical decision regarding fomo is clear. Whether people want to accept that or not is up to them

[daring sinew]

Fomo is wrong but the analogy regarding fomo has gotten out of hand

[tender raft]

cuz theres just no way something like this is gonna get added, this is what always happens with these types of suggestion 😭 it gets clowned on so much people just forget that they are supposed to talk about it

[outer harbor]

What even are you, some sorta cat duck

[sterile nest]

CAN WE MAKE SUGGESTION PERMS TO LVL 25 😭✌️

[abstract horizon]

avocato

i thought it was an avocado and cat, turns out its a duck plus cat

[tender raft]

most people here are that level 💔

[red parrot]

Eh..

[daring sinew]

Can’t say it🤔

[sterile nest]

Cold

[abstract horizon]

if ya missed out on a unit then dont get mad for doing bad in a tournament

[tender raft]

when the suggestion is so bad auric says something about it

[wooden laurel]

kazi was also in that suggestion

[sterile nest]

It's a diff suggestion but same point applies here

[atomic moat]

Yes, we already discussed that

[tame lance]

Yeah but whats the argument for limiteds? Trade value for a yet to come trading system? Why should this game be centered around trading?

[outer harbor]

Yeah he crushed the hopes and dreams of us ever getting a another Artoria

[red parrot]

Kazi the Dream Crusher💔

[abstract horizon]

theres like 1 meta limited unit, its really not centered around limiteds

[tender raft]

the limiteds stay obtainable for so long it doesnt even matter 😭

[daring sinew]

Are we seriously asking why they make limiteds? To get higher playercounts

[tender raft]

i'd understand being mad if there was one every 1 week but theres a lot of limited units that have been here for like 3+ updates

[tame lance]

What about a new player

@abstract horizon im not talking about meta im simply talking about peoples abulity to get units they like being locked behind trading

[atomic moat]

Yes we already discussed that T_T

[signal lotus]

Now you really can just close it. Nothing else can be brought up, I compiled every point and they still can't understand even a fraction of it
Nothing more can be said, unless you want people to try and get a reaction out of each other, end it

[outer harbor]

The kids love fomo…

[red parrot]

Just close this atp😔

[sterile nest]

If everything was obtainable it would defeat the whole accomplishment of having a unit since anyone can get it

[daring sinew]

Av is slavery! Sue av!

[mystic stone]

[red parrot]

.

[sterile nest]

Question helper end this

[wooden laurel]

this might be the method

[tender raft]

New players will be able to trade for it once its out; I know theres a lot of hate about how they are doing the planning for trading, but i guarantee you that this much is needed so they can atleast try to do a good trading system

[atomic moat]

Someone else is reopening, not me