*RETURN OF UNOBTAINABLE UNITS*

[copper stag]

RETURN OF UNOBTAINABLE UNITS

[floral mortar]

I really dont think that this is a good idea whatsoever

[copper stag]

Why?

[floral mortar]

well, lemme give you an example

imagine if fortnite sudently puts renegade rider in the shop

[copper stag]

I don't play fortnite, that example is not gonna work for me

[floral mortar]

how do i explain this

it just wont be fair for the OGs

they were playing back when AV had 15k players, they should have some advantage

lets take Haruka rin, for example (i dont have her). She is like a flex

Its actualy the biggest flex you can have, since only a few people had it

[copper stag]

Nah, they should get a title or smt, no advntg in the game. Gatekeeping content based on advntg is bad for any game in the long run, new players wont feel compeled to start playing, etc

[floral mortar]

well that lowkey ruins the game

if you didnt play that is your problem

AV is thinking of adding trading, as they metioned like 3 stages ago. So, lets be honest, if they do indeed return this gamemode, then what do you think the values will be?

i dont really know how to explain what im thinking, since my english really isnt that good

But, the return of the unobtainable units will ruin the game. Well,not really ruin it, but it will definetly cauze a big downfall for Av

[radiant roost]

i think something like this would actually be cool?
i do not want to go through trade to get lucy, because people will just overprice her like crazy
so old limited units returning for limited time every 3-4 months or so would be nice

[floral mortar]

lets get a mod in here, maybe he can tell you what i mean to say

[copper stag]

Well, if that's what they're aiming for, high values on unob units, they are headed for a bad economy in the game. Probably rewarding PTW players, adding value on spenders other than comunity etc

[radiant roost]

just like how reruns are in gacha games

[copper stag]

Exactly

They could even add a skin to that unit in its return, so the unit will feel fresh, old players could even get excited for the rotation too cuz they would have a chance of getting a new skin for they're favorite units or smt

[floral mortar]

so, do you think that it would be fair, for people who joined the game 3-4 days ago, to get carried in a raid to get diavolo? Keep in mind how hard Diavolo was to get back then. If you didnt play, and you dont know then lemme tell you. If you have the best possible units, with monarch, and you got suuuper lucky with the modifiers, then you could get around 8k currency from a run. Now, a run was like half an hour. Well yeah, he was hard to get, and for those who have him, its like a trophie. Also, forgot to add, that back then, only 7k players were playing (on a good day). I dont have diavolo, but i have been with AV from the start, and i really dont think that you should be able to just come and get any unit, it just wont be fair for those who dedicated themselves.

[granite siren]

i mean, you could just add an additional cosmetic/title to the obtained unit, just to differentiate the new ones from the OGs

[floral mortar]

Again, yall dont get it

[radiant roost]

maybe bring back the exclusive units and not vanguards

[granite siren]

i get it, but if a meta unit is unob, itll cause a whole lotta problems, especially if you need to trade just to play competitively

[radiant roost]

lucy, dante, vergil, etc...

[floral mortar]

@tepid python Please help me out on this one

[granite siren]

youd have to pray that the next update would powercreep those units

[copper stag]

Don't you think that if they keep "rewarding" OG players, by gatekeeping content like units (not talking about skins and bundles), the only players left on the game will be the OG ones?

[floral mortar]

soburo: Most of the people who didnt got him were lazy. isdeath: again, many people were lazy. Okurun/pwenie/seiko/mimi: Many peopl swiched tower defense games, and gived up on AV. Same goes to Diogo.

[floral mortar]

How are they rewarding the OGs. From what i remeber, and from what i know, when they release an exclusive unit he is eather trash, or they add another unit wich can replace him

[copper stag]

Don't you think that people would start to give up on AV too if they start the game today and see that the leaderboards are full with people that played the game for a long time and that they would never be able to even get on leaderboards bcz they just werent playing the game back then? I mean, what's they're end game goal afterall?

[floral mortar]

dont you think that you should dedicate yourself if you wanna be on the leaderboard?

[copper stag]

Yes

[floral mortar]

most of the unobtainable units are not that good (some exeptions are haruka riin, diavolo, soburo and isdeath)

goku is alr better then gilgamesh

[copper stag]

But don't you see that if unob units are the reason why ppl are on leaderboards, ppl wont even have a chance of dedicate themselves

[zinc relic]

Atp just get rid of everyone’s limited units ❤️

[floral mortar]

well unobtainable unit are trash, most of them at least

[copper stag]

If goku is already better than Gilgamesh why keep Gilga unob? Since your whole point of view was to give
OG players advantage based on how much time they're playing the game

[floral mortar]

tell me, what games do you play, in general?

[copper stag]

Why do you ask that? What that has to do with anything?

[zinc relic]

Fortnite*

[floral mortar]

i wanna give you some examples, since i gave you the one with fortnight and you dont seem to understand

Yeah mb unc

[copper stag]

The example you gave with fortnite, wasn't that a exclusive cosmetic shouldn't return to the game, to reward the players that were playing by the time that cosmetic was released?

[floral mortar]

welp, imma leave yall, gotta go watch Dexter. In coclusion i can say that its just not fair for the people who played back then. For us, these units are like trophies, its what actualy matters to us, and yall got no ideea how much they mean for some of us. Hope yall understand my point of view. Boomgolan out

[copper stag]

Well your pov on fairness it's different than mine

[zinc relic]

sooner or later these units are gonna be forgotten in history
-# ma goat rare monarch godly stats Goku will be forgotten

[copper stag]

They shouldn't :c

[copper stag]

Up

[tall sleet]

Wrong channel

[copper stag]

What do you mean by wrong channel?

[tall sleet]

I mean ig you could consider it a “stage suggestion”

But this is more of a mechanic suggestion which is posted in the other suggestion channel

[main kettle]

A rotative shop could be a good idea to do, like after 2 months bring límited units to a rotative shop pool.