Dont rush trailer

[slate thistle]

Make the post

[naive pulsar]

sure man

[floral heart]

nah they're doing pretty good quality upds within schedule before

[spiral flicker]

5.0's meat was supposed to be odyssey and it just flopped lmao

[floral heart]

peak mentioned

[pearl tangle]

this upd is slop content tho it is not well polished
its fine if u drop not a large amount of content as long as its well made
qol is cool tho

[spiral flicker]

the unit grind was intentionally way easier though

[teal yew]

yeahhhhhh

[naive pulsar]

and oh yeh FIRE THESE lazy devs they're talking about

[pearl tangle]

they need the rework and to make it multiplayer

[teal yew]

might as well give it for free atp

[pearl tangle]

ong

[floral heart]

i kinda expected odyssey to be really buggy anyways

[spiral flicker]

I kinda wish it was multiplayer but it is what it is

at least the rework will be in a better spot

[swift garnet]

For sure, but my major point was the gamemodes that supposedly “getting touched”

[pearl tangle]

if the rework isn’t then nobody is gna play

a little when the upd drops then that’s it

[spiral flicker]

Multiplayer odyssey might come later down the road

When they have the time to actually develop that and fix all the bugs that'll cause

[patent ore]

is it just me or does cid look like hes preparing to throw a fishing net in water?

[pearl tangle]

wait just realised ur a tester💀

u acc know

[pearl tangle]

yes its just u sybau

[floral heart]

yeah heavily fw thay since i feel like im at "end of the game" currently so its waiting game for me

[floral heart]

fym fire kazi

kazis the owner 🥀

[spiral flicker]

LMAO

[icy stag]

Nether do you know if by "before the end of the week" they mean today or next week?

[patent ore]

why are the mana lines coming from his head tho is it something i missed from the anime?

[naive pulsar]

the ones who DIDNT do their job

[floral heart]

does uryu need a buff

[spiral flicker]

That I legitimately have no idea on

[spiral flicker]

yes

[naive pulsar]

i want them gone

[floral heart]

yeah that's why i said someone's getting fired lmao

[teal yew]

we still have monday so

[pearl tangle]

his hand is up

[spiral flicker]

he needs 80 placements

[floral heart]

fuh no bruh earliest we get is Wednesday

[pearl tangle]

5 placements would be a good buff no troll

[spiral flicker]

monarch uryu value plummets 🥀

[teal yew]

the week still not end isn't it?

[patent ore]

his hand then* im pretty sure he has to cover something up with them as its kinda of a reinforce

[floral heart]

monarch uryu and 5 timestop/stun/slow units

[patent ore]

not have them fly mid air

[naive pulsar]

delay the update

[teal yew]

lil bro no

[naive pulsar]

yes we are

[floral heart]

yeah but it'll be a d move if they release the upd the same day or the next day as the trailed

[teal yew]

how is that a bad thing?

[naive pulsar]

insane idle

[patent ore]

also where is cid's sword? not once have i seen it

[naive pulsar]

polish MORE

[teal yew]

idle is fine bro mf doesn't have to act all high and mighty

he's a shadow remember

[woeful tinsel]

We are 🧍‍♂️

[pearl tangle]

making excuses for this is crazy

[naive pulsar]

now compare it to his unevo

[pearl tangle]

idle animation takes such little effort to do

[teal yew]

how you know what's what?

[pearl tangle]

this def isn’t his unevo but wtv

[sweet grove]

I agree with this, but they went about the reveal backwards
They should have STARTED with that paragraph of "this update focusing on quality and fixes"
But no instead they first pissed the clueless playerbase off and then tried to pee on the open electric wire to stop the fire :(

[teal yew]

did the dev tell you?

[naive pulsar]

Cid (disguise)

[naive pulsar]

prolly but who knows

[teal yew]

this kid is tripping

[naive pulsar]

but we do know it has a cooler idle

[swift garnet]

Why are they peeing

[naive pulsar]

the other units

[teal yew]

who's we?

[pearl tangle]

why not

[naive pulsar]

yeh not so lucky

all they gotta do is polish this more

he looks weird ash

[hollow tiger]

Hello guys

[median moth]

from what anime these units

[naive pulsar]

Eminence in shadow

iirc

[hollow tiger]

New chat

Guys are cooking

[median moth]

is chat dead?

[patent ore]

still needs polish bro.
cid has no sword
his atomic vfx looks like hes holding a fishing net
atomic box?
also in the atomic box he spawns slashes out of thin air?

[naive pulsar]

real

[teal yew]

his sword is a slime, he can conjure it at will

[naive pulsar]

not even a cutscene

[patent ore]

you dont see it once bro i looked at everything in 0.25

[pearl tangle]

there prolly is

[patent ore]

not even the i am atomic has one

[hollow tiger]

When is the maintenance ?

[naive pulsar]

hopefully

[median moth]

wdym like the trailer was lazy?

[pearl tangle]

iirc they didn’t show vsjw cutscene

[naive pulsar]

"let me ask something that the community has no info about"

[median moth]

any1 down for portals?

[naive pulsar]

are we serious

[teal yew]

so he can't punch?

[hollow tiger]

Fr
Btw when is the maintenance ?

[hollow tiger]

Yes

[naive pulsar]

give him ts POSE

[hollow tiger]

You

[teal yew]

because it looks like they are going into that direction with no sword

and more magic like

[patent ore]

those are slashes vfx bro. stop trying to make excuses

[woeful tinsel]

Pls dont release update and delay update pls no one want mid update

[teal yew]

it's a punch vfx holy shit

[naive pulsar]

cant believe a td game fumbled cid

but all i can hope for is a delay and they polish it more

[stiff spoke]

Yh bro

[patent ore]

0/10 ragebait, you failed right here

[median moth]

lf 2 leechers

[stiff spoke]

On what

[teal yew]

wow these geniuses know everything about unreleased character from 1:47 minute long teaser

amazing

[naive pulsar]

DELAY!

[icy stag]

I mean tbf cid is literally so fast that he could do this

[median moth]

namek portals

[median moth]

:D

[patent ore]

cuz we seen them all 3 moves 💔

[stiff spoke]

10t

[median moth]

ofc

[prisma venture]

n

[teal yew]

never watch one piece?

[stiff spoke]

K dms

[icy stag]

Why would anyone watch one piss

[teal yew]

it's so common for people to punch and have aura like that

[patent ore]

fr bro thats luffy using gomu gomu not cid

[teal yew]

same vfx tho no?

[naive pulsar]

why are we using toei animation

[icy stag]

Also cid wouldnt just punch

He cares about aura

[patent ore]

he does but this guy says thats a punching animation thats why he has no sword

and if so he punches straight

[teal yew]

whaTt?!?!

[median moth]

LF 1 portal namek t10 leecher

[teal yew]

punch straight?

hook, uppercut

[naive pulsar]

i dont see a hook there

[patent ore]

ok then what typa punch is that

[naive pulsar]

nor an uppercut

[icy stag]

What kind of punch is that its way too wide

[patent ore]

from the backyard sack punch?

[teal yew]

tell me lil bro, I can't even see what's he doing all I see is purple aura

[icy stag]

Punch vfx would have the same width as height

[median moth]

LF portal leecher (soz i need leecher )

[teal yew]

we don't know yet, you can't just go around say it's not polish

[icy stag]

This is clearly a slash

[teal yew]

how about we see the actual work first

[gusty oak]

the worst trailer they have made so far imo

[teal yew]

then ask them to fix if they done him wrong

[patent ore]

wanna know what punching vfx looks like? right here in the same video np

[icy stag]

Yea a punchs impact would be circular

[teal yew]

?? that's a silver thread

[icy stag]

Not a line

[naive pulsar]

i wonder what boxing move is ts

[patent ore]

yeah no just stop ignoring this guy hes clearly rage baiting

[patent ore]

he is throwing a fishing net mate

[icy stag]

Why does it look like hes stuck under his own attack

[naive pulsar]

its clearly a slash

[median moth]

what happend tho why is the communtiy mad

[patent ore]

you never seen one?

[icy stag]

Literally trying to escape lmao

[naive pulsar]

DELAY THE UPDATE!

[woeful tinsel]

ARX cid better than AV cid

[patent ore]

look at the trailer and u will see why

[teal yew]

bro these guys don't even see the unit yet and they can already tell unpolish

[naive pulsar]

the trailer speaks for it self

[teal yew]

[median moth]

sec

[icy stag]

Wait why isnt there a sword in his hand

Hes literally holding both his harms up

[woeful tinsel]

I eat

[naive pulsar]

because some lazy devs didnt wanna do their job

[icy stag]

Why is there nothing there

[naive pulsar]

which pmo

😭

[teal yew]

are you one of the dev?

[naive pulsar]

the animators sold aswell

[patent ore]

why would they release the trailer showcasing the units for all their community to see the supposed "product they will use" if they are unpolished? its very much obvious it will cause problems

[dusky geode]

actually insane how there would still be people who glaze the devs

[naive pulsar]

here man

even the owner had to say it

[plush cave]

3 units 1 with a crazy long obtainment method and 1 who’s a worldline 💔

[teal yew]

then how do you know it unpolish?

you not even see the unit

not in game at least

[median moth]

how

[icy stag]

So what will cids shiny be

If john smith is a different unit

[dusky geode]

basically 2 unit with a crazy long obtainment method (wl is long/boring asf 😭 )

[naive pulsar]

def his school uniform

[plush cave]

Fr 😭

[patent ore]

because you can litteraly see it in the trailer?

[median moth]

how to obtainment them

[teal yew]

trailers are called trailer for a reason

they not gon show u the whole thing

[patent ore]

school uniform, we saw it in a sneak

[naive pulsar]

are we seriously asking ts

[patent ore]

like not showing me cid's sword?

[dusky geode]

lil bro edited the message and didn't fix anything 😭
before vs before

[teal yew]

and how do you know he's not punching instead of using sword?

we don't know

[median moth]

elite rank type shi

[teal yew]

stop calling them out ong

[pearl tangle]

because it’s obv a slash ggs

[naive pulsar]

because thats his style? are we ts slow?

[pearl tangle]

fvx

people gotta understand

[naive pulsar]

you cannot be serious

[loud oriole]

oh suggestions arent closed

[naive pulsar]

if u watched the series

[loud oriole]

funny

[pearl tangle]

everything is done intentionally

[teal yew]

🥀

[dusky geode]

💔

[pearl tangle]

leave it open pluh

[teal yew]

I did he's not always on sword that's for sure

[pearl tangle]

we’re having civilized convos

[pearl tangle]

he like never punches tho

[naive pulsar]

he WAS always

the only time he didnt when he disguised himself as john smith

[patent ore]

dis u?

[loud oriole]

server is locked, everything should

[teal yew]

yes he did, go watch again

[teal yew]

not me, my main acc got banned

[pearl tangle]

show me it then

[naive pulsar]

aw

[teal yew]

im not ur servant

[pearl tangle]

biggest cap

[naive pulsar]

discord drama!!

[pearl tangle]

i had omega lights og and 1000 vbucks but my account got banned

[teal yew]

im 3 against 1 right now

[pearl tangle]

type shi

[teal yew]

these troglodytes can tell if work is bad by a glance when we actually don't know

[dusky geode]

lowkey the only thing that we should really care about on this update is QOL 💔

[naive pulsar]

polish more!

[river rivet]

And I want them to make a fucking bug fix upd

[river rivet]

Rather than creating a new bug

[patent ore]

also i think he forgot his sword at home in all of these

[teal yew]

what's ur point in showing me this?

[dusky geode]

pretty sure someone made a suggestion of "make a health update 0.5 upd" right? maybe the dev decided to do that

[plush cave]

Models lowkey just getting worse and worse like why so many units missing key parts of design

[lucid terrace]

clearly you were not for the halloween update all their trailers are like this

[river rivet]

I don’t even know if they ever care about Suggestion atp

[iron horizon]

still are

[frosty mulch]

those who remember dandadan update

[pearl tangle]

fr used to love this game for their models now they have kinda dropped in quality

[naive pulsar]

what could've we got if they locked in

[woeful tinsel]

AUT CID BETTER AV CID🤣🤣

[dusky geode]

well there are updates that they push out that is related to suggestions so i DO think that they actually read them cause if not why would they start doing sub announcement to explain things right?

[plush cave]

Where’s sabers sword makes her padoru skin cosmetic look like I should be put in a schizo ward 💔

[naive pulsar]

what i said

[jolly pollen]

JOIN IdoIsSped FOR RIFT

[teal yew]

them geniuses are discussing how to make game for the game maker

[river rivet]

I mean I can only hope but some suggestion are fire asf and have like hundred of star but they just ignore, especially April Fool suggestion

[lucid terrace]

this man is the real genius

[river rivet]

We want something interesting

Guess what we have

[river rivet]

WITH THE POWER OF THE SUN

[iron horizon]

her sword aint meant to be visible

[naive pulsar]

anyways ggs

[river rivet]

WAIT, SHE HAVE A SWORD????

[pearl tangle]

as i was saying before i got timed out go watch the anime her sword is invisible

[patent ore]

did you even watch the anime? her sword is invisible

[naive pulsar]

yes bro

[fallen summit]

Evb molding bro

[iron horizon]

what are you producing out of your trap

[fallen summit]

Malding*

[pearl tangle]

A rage bait nice try almost had me

W

[plush cave]

No shit but why is every other piece of media her sword is visable just make it seen it makes her look better

💔

[river rivet]

No no, I mean I alway see Padoru skin as she just doing pose

And I’m not even watch the anime

[river rivet]

And I don’t get what you mean by this tbh

[patent ore]

she keeps it invisible so people dont figure out its excalibur because people would know shes king arthur

[icy stag]

We already know who she is bro

[patent ore]

i explained to that guy cuz he doesnt know why her sword is invisible

[plush cave]

Dawg ain’t no one care she’s King Arthur in AV give her the sword 😭

[river rivet]

Ohhhhhhhhhh

[naive pulsar]

no

[river rivet]

That’s why

[river rivet]

Nah let it be

Its lore accurate

[naive pulsar]

just give me gilgamesh fsn skin 💔

[river rivet]

You mean fem Gil?

[icy stag]

So why is cid literally holding on to nothing

[plush cave]

People still use Gilgamesh 💔

[naive pulsar]

no 😭

[icy stag]

No adidas tracksuit gil

[river rivet]

Lemme search rq

[naive pulsar]

i just want his ubw suit to be added 💔

[hot root]

hes super good early game if u have monarch bro

[plush cave]

Fate stay night skin

[fair owl]

was the trailer really that bad 😭

[river rivet]

Lol

[icy stag]

Yes

[fair owl]

what were the expectations then

[plush cave]

No fucking shit almost everyone’s super good early game with monarch cmon man 😭😭😭

[naive pulsar]

yes

[icy stag]

7 shadows + cid + john smith + mundane man

[hot root]

not really he literally is meant for early game with his passives and he has defense ignore so hes super good in every sorta content

[naive pulsar]

a "good" model for cid

[hot root]

with my familiar he ignores 93% of all resistances

hes better than saber ngl

[fair owl]

umm it's a 0.5 upd tho?

[icy stag]

Also no cutscene for cid is insaje

[fair owl]

oh

ic

[woeful tinsel]

Cutscene nuke pino

[patent ore]

just a sword for my goat 😭 not slashing with his hand

[naive pulsar]

looks straight up stolen from awtd

[grand yoke]

isnt that literally at the start of the trailer

like first 10 secs

[icy stag]

Awtd looks better

[naive pulsar]

they need to polish it more

[plush cave]

At the very least give bro his crowbar 💔

[naive pulsar]

thats all im asking

[fair owl]

oh right he has a sword 😭

that's silly

[grand yoke]

I mean, its the same character 😭 but even with av having more details, for some reason awtd looks better

[dusky geode]

atp just change the suggestion tiltle to general 2

[icy stag]

No I think thats just his normal attack filmed from an angle to make it look like a cutscene

[fair owl]

stolen in what sense tho
wont all cid designs in any atd game be based off the same thing

[grand yoke]

first 10 secs hes playing a piano

[icy stag]

Oh

[plush cave]

Gen 2 is filled with Freakazoids you don’t wanna be there

[icy stag]

Actually I have no idea what the piano is

[dusky geode]

i dont want to

[grand yoke]

prob the cutscene to the start of the thing if we assume its a boss rush

[naive pulsar]

because it wasnt polished enough but i understand it only had 3-4 devs to worked on it

but i cant with the model

[fair owl]

OH HAHAHA peak cutscene

that sounds like a great idea

[naive pulsar]

it could've have more detailed model if they had more devs focusing on .5

[fair owl]

but people dont wanna believe that 💔

[woeful tinsel]

What should i do my rrs 652 roll on aizen or save for 🧍‍♂️ Update?

[plush cave]

Like I get wanting to get ahead in the .0 updates but if it causes our .5 updates to be this then just don’t even bother

[fair owl]

mmmm ic ic

[naive pulsar]

but some of them

[fair owl]

that looks neat indeed

[naive pulsar]

yeh not so motivated

[grand yoke]

even if they had all the devs working on it at the same time i guarantee you the cosmetics would still look bad

they always do

[fair owl]

maybe it's the lighting that makes the av one look less deatiled?

[grand yoke]

😭

[naive pulsar]

copy and paste

i hate it

💔

they gotta use astd mindset at some point

use their own creativity making cosmetics

but at the end of the day it wont happen

[plush cave]

Has there ever been like…

A great cosmetic

[lucid terrace]

idk man has there ever been a good character design

because how else is this game going to get a good cosmetic as it's based on the character and their design

[naive pulsar]

dante atleast his fit is nice ig

[dusky geode]

i fw peashooter

[lucid terrace]

i did too until they removed his model

[fair owl]

peashooter on top

[patent ore]

shiny vergil and shiny dante are the most insane ones ive seen in tds
vsjw is very good too and also diavolo

[formal crater]

how do u know?

[icy stag]

Nah dante and vergil cosmetics are a bit over the top imo

[fair owl]

trust them, they know

[plush cave]

It’s not even like too much of a cosmetic it just turns you into their dt models 1:1

[scarlet nexus]

I heard bugs

[formal crater]

combine buu idle animation with gogeta tail and alucard aura looks sick

[scarlet nexus]

🐛❓

[naive pulsar]

john smith.... oh the day i get you with my own hands...

[formal crater]

toji worm?

[icy stag]

Im busy using gogeta aura to blind others

[iron horizon]

back off friendo before i send you to petey's playhouse

[lucid terrace]

im busy playing anime defenders

[plush cave]

Use one of the Christmas skins they’re better at blinding

[patent ore]

can yall believe i saved up 900 rerolls and 3 godly stats in each category just for cid's release and then I see ts? 😭

[fair owl]

js wait vro 💔

get more rrs

[short fog]

just wait people are complaining too much

[brave bolt]

watch him not be meta💔

[gilded nexus]

its not that deep 💔

[formal crater]

im busy getting seizure from vsjw cutscenes

[short fog]

units will look better ingame

[fair owl]

agreed

[short fog]

was the trailer ass? yes.

[patent ore]

its been deep from the first 100 rerolls

[short fog]

did the effects look good? yes.

[gilded nexus]

complaining about a whole lot of nothing

[brave bolt]

no

[formal crater]

Gang someone run me a battlpass

[icy stag]

No thry didnt

[short fog]

yall are spoiled

deadass

effects look good

[patent ore]

they just need to add him a sword and ill stop complaining 😶

[formal crater]

only psychopaths play with effects turned on

[short fog]

look at a unit like gojo and compare cids nuke to gojos

[gilded nexus]

those who didnt watch the anime :

[naive pulsar]

polish the cid, and add idles to the units ill shut

[icy stag]

?

[naive pulsar]

what

[short fog]

cid looks fine

[icy stag]

He uses his sword all the time

[gilded nexus]

they showed

john smith

[naive pulsar]

he did

[naive pulsar]

they did

[fair owl]

wtf 💀

[patent ore]

you mean the slime sword? he doesnt use it at all during his "shadow" form
he does a slash,
the atomic box
and the nuke all without his sword
or anything

[icy stag]

In the anime he literally has the sword in his hand all the time

[naive pulsar]

no

delete

[fair owl]

dawg

remove ts

[iron horizon]

when are we gonna collab with the red one?

[fair owl]

thank you

[formal crater]

my fault wrong pic was trynna show off my gogeta shiny

[fair owl]

💀

[iron fiber]

Pvp better be the greatest fucking gamemode ever

[patent ore]

do yall think they seen this image and thought its a box then made the atomic box move?

[iron fiber]

Cuz ain't no way they sacrificed that much of cid for it

[fair owl]

crazy

[gusty oak]

i hope not

[naive pulsar]

glazing the gamemode just to end up like oddessy LMAO

[fair owl]

where's the stats tho dawg

[formal crater]

shiny gogeta doesnt feel rare or is it just me

[fair owl]

broki leave it it's fine 😭 if it ends up ass then it's ass but do we need negativity already

[naive pulsar]

it really doesnt

since it doesnt look cool

[iron fiber]

Gogeta been here for too long man

[patent ore]

no but like fr now why did they make the atomic box move and not just made the lines + explosions when he was fighting elizabeth?

[naive pulsar]

lame rewards also not worth of the grind

[fair owl]

so what shape did you want it to be instead

[gusty oak]

shiny medea feels rarer than shiny gogeta atp ive only ever seen one person with a shiny medea

medea*

[fair owl]

im not talking about odessey, im saying pvp

[naive pulsar]

literally got it

its not allat

[iron fiber]

gogeta getting that aa aizen treatment

[fair owl]

js leave the new game mode alone 😭 shit aint dropped yet

[naive pulsar]

its just her fgo

[naive pulsar]

no

they did cid pretty dirty

[formal crater]

this would be cool for shiny gogeta

[fair owl]

i aint talking about cid either 😭

[naive pulsar]

then no

im shutting my brain off

its 1 am

[fair owl]

xd

get sm rest then vro

[patent ore]

not a box?

[formal crater]

i wish they would reskin shiny gogeta into this

[fair owl]

no like, i dont know anything about the anime so u suggest what else

you probably have a good idea of a better shape for that attack since ur hating on the box shape that they decided on

or is this just hating to hate

'they made a box so i want a sphere'

[formal crater]

shiny gogeta reskin someone post this in suggestion im on cool down

[trail sentinel]

I want this shadow

[formal crater]

is that astd?

[fair owl]

girl cid ?

💀 crazy

[formal crater]

astd had a girl cid

[patent ore]

litteraly just some classic purple lines with explosions woulda been better and more canon

[formal crater]

idk if its this one though

[fair owl]

ooooh ic

they had a female sukuna too right ?

💀

[trail sentinel]

Ye

[formal crater]

oh the good old days

[fair owl]

looks crazy
isnt that an entirely different attack tho ?

[elder goblet]

watch this update cause 9999 bug

[fair owl]

also is the box thing not canon or smtn

[patent ore]

also atomic box makes no sense. he uses those purple sigils to coat things as a form of reinforce for his nukes

[fair owl]

yeah and it will and theyll fix it

[elder goblet]

box thing is canon

[trail sentinel]

Nah it's broke my 100%Egg value

[naive pulsar]

ts could've been better in the trailers bg sound theme

[fair owl]

oh ic ic

[naive pulsar]

might be overrated but

it fits more

[blazing panther]

🇸 🇹 🇫 🇺 💅

[fair owl]

dont they usually make their own music or use free domain music

[elder goblet]

his last atomic in space is in shape of a box

[fair owl]

is this in free domain

[naive pulsar]

kind of

[formal crater]

i didnt have the egg anyways lol i also got a sh ton of stardust saved up didnt play after getting luffy

[naive pulsar]

like think of it as a remix

[elder goblet]

gang i bet cid will end up getiing vegito treatment lol

[fair owl]

mmm ic ic

[patent ore]

they could have also went with a mini version of I'm Atomic where he shoots a nuke from his finger (except that created a flashlight in the space)

[elder goblet]

bro gonna be mid asf asf

[trail sentinel]

We can farm level on this?

[plush cave]

Vegito’s strong asf he just expensive

[fair owl]

cuz av devs wwld get trolled even harder if their trailer got took down due to copystrike 💀 🤡

[elder goblet]

that why he mid

get locked hard with monarch too

[fair owl]

umm
they dont always, show all the attacks in the trailer right ?

[formal crater]

shiney gogeta needeed

[fair owl]

or do they?

[plush cave]

Nah eth is Vegito’s best trait

[elder goblet]

they always show all attack

in trailer

[fair owl]

nope

[elder goblet]

support ahh unit

[patent ore]

or they could have made a slime attack with spikes coming out the ground impaling the enemies.
or switched to his crowbars, his favorite weapon and did a barrage or smth

[elder goblet]

mf still mid with monarch

[patent ore]

but he just made an atomic box and spawned slashes mid air with his hand like what

[elder goblet]

ngl cid deverse 7 attack animation

[trail sentinel]

I get free premium pass

[naive pulsar]

tier says otherwise

[elder goblet]

i think 7 is too low for bro

[elder goblet]

uh yea and what?

[naive pulsar]

ah yes world 2

[naive pulsar]

def not mid

[elder goblet]

dont bring overall tier too here

[patent ore]

im pretty sure the guys who made cid havent watch the anime, thats why he didnt get the love he deserves

[elder goblet]

in inf he mid

in worldline he mid

in tour he still mid

[naive pulsar]

i mean who should i trust? you? or the tier list?

[elder goblet]

trust the fucking tier list

[fair owl]

bro im not asking you for more attacks dawg 😭

[elder goblet]

it just my opinion that he mid

that all

[naive pulsar]

woah calm down buddy, did i hit a nerve

[elder goblet]

no bro

[calm wigeon]

i got this for cid 🥀

[patent ore]

just pointed out some possibilities they had with the diverse attacks he has. not fkn atomic box slash 😭

[elder goblet]

the problem with vegito is that you need to much money and time to call him too the battle field

[autumn ferry]

U better make that 2500

[calm wigeon]

i am

[elder goblet]

which make him hard to asscess too

[autumn ferry]

[naive pulsar]

thats true heard alot of that for a while from the community

[elder goblet]

and become mid in most progress mode

[naive pulsar]

u gotta spawn bro at like

wave 1

if u want vegito

[elder goblet]

if you can call vegito too battle field then he will clear all

[plush cave]

Inf is where he’s best lmao what

[elder goblet]

and it still gonna take you 10 wave to call vegito

[calm wigeon]

HOLY SHIT I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO CRASH OUT, WHO IS REACTING “☠️” ON EVERY SENTENCE I SAY, WHEN YOU COULD USE THE BETTER VERSION “💀”

[elder goblet]

its vegito

[fair owl]

vegito is designed for land of the gods legend stages

[plush cave]

Yeah

[elder goblet]

if the enemy get leaked

[fair owl]

it's like they made his kit entirely to solo that one mode

[elder goblet]

you will lost ủe cegito

ur

unless you have todo to move bro

otherwise you gotta wait another 10 wave to call him again

[fair owl]

mmm ic ic kk

[calm wigeon]

yeah but vegito gets energy drained 💀

[elder goblet]

vegito only shine when he in goku and vegeta mode

[fair owl]

yeah so they way it works is that ur supposed to call vegito only at the very end when only the boss is left

[jolly pollen]

am i cooked

[elder goblet]

goku and vegeta is what make vegito high tier

[calm wigeon]

ethereal better

[fair owl]

he ruptures, and buu's crazy ahh regen is negated

and for the early game

goku's weird buff system allows him to effectively bypass energy drain

[elder goblet]

who need rupture when you can spirit bomp buu

[plush cave]

Best trait on bro

[jolly pollen]

I HAVE TWO

[vale sun]

best trait on bro by like 5% more stats

[elder goblet]

etheral goku is acctually so good for support dang

[median moth]

got 100k presents i save for mill or just summon cuz am gambler?

[fair owl]

i dunno if the dmg is enough
but if that's also true then that's another way to complete land of the gods lg

[last grotto]

The fact people are just using this to talk is funny

You’re all welcome by the way

[plush cave]

No, objectively best trait because you can use 2 Vegito’s and 1 goku for support

[elder goblet]

1000% of 30k

[fair owl]

summon cuz gambale gambale

[elder goblet]

3m

[fair owl]

yeah but 💔 i dont trust that shi and i know i cant time it

[fair owl]

no

300K

[elder goblet]

ye

[fair owl]

broki ?

[median moth]

❤️‍🔥

[vale sun]

true if hes your only dps unit

otherwise monarch is a lot more convenient

[jolly pollen]

is ethereal buu decent

[elder goblet]

uhhh

i think i need to learn math dang

[fair owl]

😭 bro had a moment

[elder goblet]

how tf i misscaculate this

[fair owl]

happens ong

[elder goblet]

any way vegito mid on most mode

[patent ore]

where else should we then? all other channels are locked down

PLS OPEN GENERAL

[fair owl]

yeah vegito isnt reliable

[plush cave]

1000% is just 10x

[naive pulsar]

Who knows

[fair owl]

nah it's fine bro

dont open gen rn

ull get a mob of people spamming and crying

[elder goblet]

idk how vegito got that high on overall tierlist

[plush cave]

Same reason midchigo got that high

[elder goblet]

prob get carry hard by goku and vegeta

[calm wigeon]

ethereal vegito is better than monarch cus he is mainly support and u can have 1 goku, 1 vegeta (cc) and then 1 vegito (rupture)

[fair owl]

why is ichigo mid now 😭

[naive pulsar]

Yeh no we know people when they don't see a perfect update

Especially the people ask when is the upd

[plush cave]

He was always mid

[elder goblet]

hey for overall he is acctually good bro

[fair owl]

umok

as u wish

[calm wigeon]

only when he came out

[fair owl]

yeah

[calm wigeon]

cus he didnt have the ability

[elder goblet]

he just trash on release and inf

[fair owl]

yeah

[plush cave]

Even with ability he’s mid. Using stocks to do above average damage

[icy stag]

The ability is not even that good

[elder goblet]

cheap

cheap

[naive pulsar]

Yhwach better

[calm wigeon]

cus he is progressive

[naive pulsar]

Trust

[icy stag]

Ability just to do what sjw does for free

[plush cave]

Real

[fair owl]

mythic sjw ?

[icy stag]

No

[elder goblet]

sjw power crept everyone anyway

[calm wigeon]

also 500% for one hit followed by 200% for 40 seconds or wtv it is is not mid imo

[fair owl]

mythic sjw ass compared to mythic ichigo

[naive pulsar]

Vsjw

[fair owl]

ainnoway we comparing a mythic evo to a vanguard

[calm wigeon]

vergil and dante

[fair owl]

who thought that was a valid take

[naive pulsar]

He most definitely is

[vale sun]

vsjw powercreep is the worst thing to ever happen in AV

[elder goblet]

good thing that vsjw gonna get ban in upcoming tourament

[icy stag]

Those are not insane numbers given that ichigos base stats are dog

[calm wigeon]

tbh they should get moved up to godly tier

[naive pulsar]

No it's bleach

Trust

[calm wigeon]

he gets way higher stats with missing stocks

[plush cave]

Especially with how easy he is to get

[icy stag]

Even at 1 stock his stats are worse than gogeta, sjw, yhwach

[naive pulsar]

They allowed to overpower fate units especially my goat golden sweet sage perfect wise egoistic prideful king Gilgamesh 😢

[elder goblet]

inf tier list

[vale sun]

vergil ❤️

[patent ore]

yeah tbh cid's a flop for me imma just use the rerolls i saved up for him. who do yall think I should try getting as my 3rd monarch?

[last grotto]

Im not saying yall need to go somewhere else, I just think its hilarious

[fair owl]

😭 bro why we comparing him to gogeta and sjw

[elder goblet]

vergil dps is on par with aizen wtf

[icy stag]

Choy should be in the same tier as sjw

[calm wigeon]

vergil 100%

[vale sun]

he's just that guy

[plush cave]

Vergil

[fair owl]

patience bruh

[elder goblet]

still get out clash by aizen but who care

[fair owl]

just wait for the upd

[icy stag]

Bad players will tell you vergil but yhwach monarch is better

[vale sun]

you do apparently

[swift garnet]

Cd aint even come out

[elder goblet]

aizen only good when you can keep enemy in the corner lol

[naive pulsar]

Just be patient we'll get our delay and polish them😢

[swift garnet]

Savr ur rrs cuh

[fair owl]

legit

[elder goblet]

hey at least cid dont get early showcase

[plush cave]

Yhwach is the most glazed unit oat. Vergil you don’t need to lobotomize your team to do good damage

[elder goblet]

and become exit scam like buu and goku

[fair owl]

but lobotomy team yummy

[calm wigeon]

if cid is mid then all of these are going on vergil INSTANTLY

like deadass no hesitation

[elder goblet]

at least buu is pretty good for some mode

[fair owl]

crazy grind

[calm wigeon]

like 4 weeks or smth

[plush cave]

I already got monarch Vergil so I don’t need to waste rrs on him if cids mid

[elder goblet]

mango god lol

[icy stag]

Yhwach does just fine with 2 farms and another monarch

[jolly pollen]

100000 takedowns on uryu and lancer 😭

[patent ore]

565 more for pity

[fair owl]

wild

[calm wigeon]

uryu and vsjw 🤫

[plush cave]

2 farms in infinite 💔

[calm wigeon]

iykyk

[elder goblet]

when they buff vegito

[patent ore]

yeah but yhwach needs team dedicated to him and cant fit in multiple monarch teams

[elder goblet]

when they make vegito meta

[naive pulsar]

No way 💔

Yeh...

[icy stag]

I was talking about wl, but even in inf vergil is ass

[jolly pollen]

i just wasted 60 rerolls to get blitz on uryu so im grinding raids to get them back 🥀

[icy stag]

Choy is just too good

[calm wigeon]

IYKYK (gatekeep)

[plush cave]

Someone give this dude opinion blacklist

[calm wigeon]

yeah get marksman uryu trust

[elder goblet]

ok ok you telling me someone can almost reaching aizen corner dps

is bad

[icy stag]

Id rather have a support for my choy than a mid dps

Who wont keep up

[fair owl]

vergil is not a mid dps im pretty sure

[elder goblet]

mf doing aizen corner dps

[plush cave]

Vergils better than choy in inf funnily enough

[icy stag]

Everyone is mid compared to choy

[calm wigeon]

like actually stop with the ☠️ emoji

[icy stag]

No hes not

[plush cave]

He is

Cope

[icy stag]

Dont say "but hes higher on the tierlist"

[plush cave]

[calm wigeon]

tl so buns

[elder goblet]

vergil is uhh easier to setup

[calm wigeon]

pretty sure they have ichigo and rem above vergil on the overall tl

[median moth]

is summoning w 200k presents daily enough or i shall grind more

[elder goblet]

we dont talk about overall tier list

[icy stag]

Who the fuck is in charge of the tierlists then lmao

[patent ore]

just go ahead

[icy stag]

Rem in 2025

[calm wigeon]

monarch vergil does 90k full aoe dps

[elder goblet]

he not full aoe

his follow up is not full aoe

[icy stag]

In dt he is

[calm wigeon]

dt and his follow up attacks

are full aoe

[icy stag]

His follow up is supposed to hit everyone with a debuff

[elder goblet]

follow up is circle bro

[median moth]

veteran rank type shi

[elder goblet]

his main attack is full aoe

follow up is circle

[calm wigeon]

bug

[elder goblet]

and his clone only mimic follow up

[calm wigeon]

but its ok

[elder goblet]

hey they state in passive that

he do his first attack

which is circle aoe

so what you expect

[fair owl]

pretty sure it's the aoe

just check the shrine video on vergil

[calm wigeon]

his follow up is s supposed to be full aoe and his regular attack is supposed to be circle aoe

[wanton stirrup]

CID IS, FULL AOE

[elder goblet]

fun fact his clone is inf range

[calm wigeon]

pretty sure its bugged

[fair owl]

um what

[plush cave]

His follow up is only the circle when not in dt when in dt it’s the full AOE

[elder goblet]

only if vergil attack

and clone only mimic his first attack

[plush cave]

It’s not inf range

[elder goblet]

bro clone dont even have real range

[plush cave]

You can click on the clone and see it’s range lol

[elder goblet]

if vergil attack then his clone will send another attack

[elder goblet]

clone only attack when vergil attack

and he can attack out side of its range

[plush cave]

Yeah. But the clone has its own range.

It’s not infinite

[elder goblet]

you can test that on sandbox

[plush cave]

I already have in dungeon

[elder goblet]

clone range is bassically vergil range

not inf but also not real range

[last grotto]

Hot take:

demon slayer fights suck, really good animation, no fucking choreography

[plush cave]

Not a hot take

[jolly pollen]

AWFUL TAKE

[icy stag]

This not a hot take

[naive pulsar]

Just go do your chores bro

[plush cave]

It’s just the truth

[fair owl]

oh miso hello

[naive pulsar]

💔

[icy stag]

Nobody actually likes demon slayer

[last grotto]

I like it, the animation is good, its just the fights have no real choreography, just flashy effects

[swift garnet]

[fair owl]

do you mean the plot

[hardy zephyr]

Only for animation

[icy stag]

Just like fate

[naive pulsar]

Ufotable

[last grotto]

No, I will stand on it, the animation is just flashy effects, there’s no REAL fighting

[naive pulsar]

That's just ufotable's thing

[icy stag]

They need to stop overanimating shit

[fair owl]

mmmmm ic

[elder goblet]

hey fate fighting is acctually good

[fair owl]

idk what a real fight looks like maybe

[icy stag]

I dont need to see 3000 vfx every second

[fair owl]

just looks like fight to me 😭

[naive pulsar]

Lancer vs archer was good

[tame chasm]

jjk , demon slayer and Solo leveling hot take a lot of them are carried by animation

[naive pulsar]

Trust

[swift garnet]

True for most fate series , but some have good choreography

[plush cave]

Salter when you turn vfx on

[elder goblet]

real fight will end in 20 second

[fair owl]

solo levelling is the hype

[elder goblet]

if you using weapon

[fair owl]

um what

are we trying to say all animes are ass now or smtn

[last grotto]

Solo leveling isn’t even top 20 animation, the choreography in the fights is actually good, that’s what carries it for me

[swift garnet]

Its not a real fight tho

[plush cave]

Solo leveling I will die on this hill is ass

[fair owl]

exactly

[elder goblet]

imange world what you expect

[fair owl]

what's imange

[elder goblet]

i dont think real fight with wep will last longer than 1 min

[calm wigeon]

gen 3 type shit

[elder goblet]

uhhhh

[fair owl]

a what

[calm wigeon]

general 3

[swift garnet]

Im a competitive martial artist, fights can span over 3-5 mins on average and even longer in official matches

[fair owl]

that exists?

[jolly pollen]

is monarch dante with a good c3 turbo granny better than deadeye.

[elder goblet]

weapon

[calm wigeon]

i am saying that this is basically general 3

[fair owl]

just check the shrine video, i think he accoutned for turbogranny

[fair owl]

oh okay

[jolly pollen]

yeah but no corruption and i have a super high corruption 3 on mine

[fair owl]

or u cld just calc the extra dmg urself

[elder goblet]

deadeye dante have less downtime than monarch

[jolly pollen]

ill do that.

[icy stag]

Im gonna be honest the solo leveling sjw vs belu fight looked like shit

[elder goblet]

monarch have more dmg than deadeye

that all

[fair owl]

nice okay

[icy stag]

Its literally just flashing lights

[swift garnet]

Same applies with weapons, although I can’t say for sure but atleast in situations with blunt objects im sure its 3-5 mins too

[fair owl]

but that's what it was

the lights couldnt flash in tha manhwa gng 💔

[elder goblet]

i dont think any fight with sword or gun will last longer than 1 mon

and for blunt part

idk

[fair owl]

ppl added so much hype to beru fight

[icy stag]

Its probably a really cool fight if you have epilepsy but to me it was boring as shit

[fair owl]

ofc they wouldnt like it no matter what happened

the manhwa was already pretty cool

the way they illustrated it

[swift garnet]

It just really depends on the skill of the fighters nkt the weapobs

[elder goblet]

gotta agree with this one

[fair owl]

gun fights arent supposed to be a thing anyways

[elder goblet]

yea

[fair owl]

you dont like

[icy stag]

No a fight with a knife ends in like 10 seconds

[fair owl]

play cod irl

ur gonna die if u get shot

u dont revive

[icy stag]

The winner is whoever bleeds out in the ambulance instead if the pavement

[fair owl]

💀 true

[elder goblet]

who gonna land critical hit first ahh fight

[hardy ore]

Coming soon is genuinely crazy work

Ain't NO WAY we're going back to 4 week 0.5 updates

[swift garnet]

Anyways do not slander my glorious fate

[icy stag]

Im mad because hsr collabed with mid fate instead of a good series

[elder goblet]

fate is good

[brave bolt]

explain the story and the chronological order to watch fate from start to finish

[hardy ore]

G-g-gooner bait...

[swift garnet]

I mean what should they have collabed with

[elder goblet]

first go to fate visual novel

[brave bolt]

yes

[jolly pollen]

zero ubw heavens feel

[brave bolt]

my favorite

[elder goblet]

second read and try all the ending

[icy stag]

Mushoku tensei, rent a girlfriend, oreimo

[elder goblet]

come back after you spend 1 month on that

[jolly pollen]

ass ass and ass 😭

[brave bolt]

the only peak fate series is visual novel

[elder goblet]

fate visual novel story is very good

[brave bolt]

av visual novel skin soon?

for saber

[elder goblet]

we dont talk about h scene

[hardy ore]

I know what kind of man you are..

That trailer was fucking ass though cant lie wdym coming soon 😭

[swift garnet]

Magical cup grants wishes, 7 people fight to the death to get the cup. They use magic and heroic spirits from history

Watch order:

fate zero
Fate
Fate ubw
Heavens feel

Everything else are alternate universe’s

[swift garnet]

Alr bro

[brave bolt]

explain alternate universes

[elder goblet]

just tell him reading visual novel first

[elder goblet]

nasu verse hurt the brain fr

[wanton stirrup]

Rush trailer

[swift garnet]

Fate extra = plot but on moon or wtv

Fate apocrypha = plot but in Romania

Fate fake = plot but in america

Fgo = time travel and dimension travel to fix bad timelines

Kalid ilya = do not watch

[wanton stirrup]

Oh the reaction spammers aren't here anymore

[fair owl]

maybe

[fair owl]

did u not want a trailer gng

[sweet grove]

"plot but in Romania" LMAO

[wanton stirrup]

Fate part 3 is smth the devs would do🫂 💔

[swift garnet]

Pretty much sums it up

Fate fans trying not to overcomplicate the series challenge level impossible

Its not even that complex

[brave bolt]

wait fate grand order isnt the main timeline

oh nvm

im thinking about stay night

with kiritsugu guy from aba

[swift garnet]

Yeah thats main timeline

4th and 5th holy grail wars are main timeline dawg

Everything else is just alternative timelines

[icy stag]

Prisma ilya is literally the best part

[swift garnet]

…

[elder goblet]

also fate saber route fate ubw and fate hf is alternative timeline

[swift garnet]

Well technically yeah

Ig

[brave bolt]

fate apocrypha is the one with my astolfo right

[elder goblet]

3 route same universe

[swift garnet]

Yes

[brave bolt]

why the fuck can i not send genmojis

[wanton stirrup]

Astolfo confirmed in June

[elder goblet]

i still hate how complicated fate power system is

[wanton stirrup]

Gen 2 confirmation

Astolfo WILL COME

[elder goblet]

the au can be shorten up

[wanton stirrup]

Therfore Fate update 3 in June

[elder goblet]

but fuck the power system

[brave bolt]

noble phantasm

[frosty mulch]

general chat 2?

[brave bolt]

or sm

[swift garnet]

Yes please

[wanton stirrup]

Yeah

[swift garnet]

Give us one more

[elder goblet]

np and other shit too

like rm

or true matic

magic

[swift garnet]

That’s literally the only reason its complicated 💔

[brave bolt]

if i had astolfo as my servant

[elder goblet]

mable phantasam

[icy stag]

??

[elder goblet]

nobel phantasam

reality marble

magic

true magic

[swift garnet]

Just stop right their

[elder goblet]

what next

[icy stag]

What would you use your commands for

[swift garnet]

2nd magic?

[elder goblet]

yea

[brave bolt]

make her wash my back

[swift garnet]

Him

[brave bolt]

her

[icy stag]

Boring

[swift garnet]

Wash ur back

[elder goblet]

stepping into fate power system is worst choice in my life

[brave bolt]

prison school style

[swift garnet]

I mean hey if you like playing with the joy stick bro

[elder goblet]

i hate reading fate wiki just to reliaze that i dont know anything about fate power system

[brave bolt]

prison school update soon

and grand blue

trust

[swift garnet]

I find it interesting

[elder goblet]

ahh yes reading 20 page is interesting

and it acctually interesting

[swift garnet]

That’s exactly why i find it interesting

Its actually really intricate

[elder goblet]

gotta love true magic is just random bull shit

when true magic animation gahh

[swift garnet]

But its cool tho

[wanton stirrup]

Doesn't Saber have a fake sword

Like in Aba

[elder goblet]

uhh

you mean her wind sword?

[hoary vapor]

Is this real

[wanton stirrup]

Or is her Excaliber invisible to everyone

[elder goblet]

it just saber coating excalibur in wind

[wanton stirrup]

I love Delta

[elder goblet]

that all

[wanton stirrup]

Actually

What the fuck

That's why it's invisible in aba

[elder goblet]

yea

[sweet grove]

is there a plottwist in Fate
where it turns out Saber is the Saber, and you have to pick her up and swing her around cause she is secretly the Legendary Saber...

[elder goblet]

and when she using mode

she just not coating excalibur with wind anymore

and let excalibur unleash it power

[swift garnet]

Its not fake

Its just hidden

[elder goblet]

and her excalibur get sealed lol

[icy stag]

Damn I sure wonder what weapon type she could be using

[wanton stirrup]

She conceals it*

?

[swift garnet]

Ikr

[swift garnet]

Yeah

[wanton stirrup]

Oh

[elder goblet]

when excalibur unsealed

[swift garnet]

I personally find it silly

Just unleash bro

[wanton stirrup]

Can we just get Derieri from 7DS in AV

[elder goblet]

her idenity gonna get leak when she just step in the war if she do that lol

and then everyone gonna jump her