Make a 2x or 1.5x speed

[silent charm]

fair you are free to express your opinion

[heady fern]

it would still take the same time to get something with 2x because the game will scale for 2x

[floral kernel]

Anime defenders had 300-500k daily at it peak and it started with 2x

[floral kernel]

There gonna add more long ass unit like sjw

[silent charm]

why not making it like feature for cleaning up same stages

over again

[floral kernel]

With is another 28+ hours

[heady fern]

defenders did that when the game was already dead

[rare thicket]

"Y-yes it would"

[floral kernel]

With people don’t got time for that bc of school,job, and other stuff

[heady fern]

AND it started scaling for 2x

remember dracula raid?

which took 15 mins even with 2x?

[floral kernel]

Bro what are u talking about

[silent charm]

2x is meant for easier stages

[rare thicket]

Pretty sure they added 2x-3x when they died

[silent charm]

if stage is to hard

[floral kernel]

2x been in the game since the beginning of ad

[tardy grove]

and guess where it is now

[silent charm]

we obviously would turn to 1x

[lament wren]

on everyone's soul ts will be a common skin in the halloween event

[floral kernel]

They did not

Did non of y’all play AD

☠️

[heady fern]

it did NOT help the situation at all

[tidal echo]

i don't get it though the devs said that they would never add it and will never consider adding it (unless its for inf) but they quickly changed their mind on that too

[floral kernel]

Crazy

[heady fern]

why is this an argument?

[floral kernel]

It does

[heady fern]

ad died

why does it matter

the game scaled for 2x and it wasnt faster to grind

[floral kernel]

Only die bc the devs gave up on the game

[lament wren]

yknow what

[heady fern]

because the game scaled for 2x

[lament wren]

ts lowk

[floral kernel]

Update? Is the reason not 2x

[tardy grove]

why would they give up updating an active game buddy

[floral kernel]

Bro did not play anime defender so bro can’t be saying shit

[silent charm]

i played anime defenders

reason i stopped playing

were ads

[heady fern]

i did, i have 16 accounts just for ad

watch nag's vid

[floral kernel]

16 is mad crazy

[lament wren]

how did yall even got into it in the first place? the models were not accurate

[silent charm]

my friend got me into it

[idle spoke]

an average match is 5 minutes right?

[silent charm]

forcefully

😭

[floral kernel]

Bro did not play the game bro just farm the game without experience it

For fun

[distant chasm]

Yes

[heady fern]

here we go with mental gymnastics

[floral kernel]

It was popular bc it bring back so many td player from Aa since Aa got deleted back then

[idle spoke]

so i’m guessing they wanna complete the match in under 3 minutes 😭
5 minutes is already good pace for a “1x” speed td

[heady fern]

2x does not matter that much, its the same as pet sim ot bgsi

[floral kernel]

And people wanted a good td game for a long time after aa got deleted

[slim tangle]

tournament was only 25 minutes 1 time bro

[floral kernel]

And astd down fall

[soft stone]

theres no point trying to reason w them

just leave it

[heady fern]

bgs had 3 eggs so the secrets weren't that rare in terms of chances for the most part, but now bgsi has insane potions and 6 eggs, and the game scales for this

the same goes for pet sim 99, you can open 99 eggs but the chances are atrocious

because the game scales for it

[distant chasm]

Not when you have to do that shit 10 times a day. And its not like youre even playing the game because the game is so piss easy that a single unit will clear the entire stage

[heady fern]

the same goes for 2-3x in td games

[floral kernel]

We talking about td game

Stupid

[heady fern]

yeah you are way too dense

not the sharperst tool in the shed huh

[heady fern]

yeah ima just follow your advice

ts has to be ragebait atp

ts blerk kevin 😅 ✌️

[floral kernel]

Say you

Horrible reason

[stable holly]

Say you...

[heady fern]

lmaooo

[floral kernel]

Mf brought up pet simulator

💀

That not a td game

[soft stone]

hes also hard to argue with cuz u dont know what hes saying half the time

respectfully

[idle spoke]

is english your first language?

[distant chasm]

Either make the stages actually difficult so I feel like Im actually playing the game for those 5 minutes or just let me skip that shit if I just stand there afk

[lament wren]

atleast this isnt the most horrible suggestion

[idle spoke]

“add skip waves to every stage”

[lament wren]

💔

[heady fern]

can we just add autoplay

[floral kernel]

That the suggestion

[floral kernel]

☠️

[idle spoke]

like what astd did

[heady fern]

embedded scripts

[floral kernel]

Mf think auto play is a good idea

But think 2x is bad ☠️

[lament wren]

ts aint rangers 💔

infact did the game even came back

[distant chasm]

Hes obviously being satirical

[stable holly]

wow.. the sarcasm flew past him

[heady fern]

lol

[lament wren]

the game did NOT infact came back

[floral kernel]

Good that a defeat the purpose of the game

[lament wren]

monday they said

[tardy grove]

why are yall even arguing

[stable holly]

true.

[distant chasm]

The game is boring as shit

[tardy grove]

we yes we all know this is not getting added anyway

let him yap

[distant chasm]

Thats why

[floral kernel]

Tell them that

[stable holly]

peace upon mother earth 🕊️

[lament wren]

idk theyre debating whether if its a good idea to add 2x or not

[idle spoke]

honestly they gotta rework floor 10+ on odyssey
why the fuck are the enemies so resistant

[rare thicket]

2x Speed Tokens ❤️

[floral kernel]

Idk

[distant chasm]

Theyre reworking all of odyssey

[lament wren]

they already said they will anyways

shit was rushed

[stable holly]

reworking the new mode..

[lament wren]

def did not lived to the hype

[idle spoke]

rushed to the max

[distant chasm]

Yea they gave up on it like 3 days in

Lmao

[idle spoke]

ragna doing quintillion amount of damage

😭

[distant chasm]

And now theres nothing to do

[rare thicket]

:) they should rework elemental reactions

[lament wren]

mfs was milking like crazy

[acoustic lance]

they is nobody doing odyssey ngl

[lament wren]

oddysey was NOT allat

[idle spoke]

i actually found odyssey fun i’m ngl.

[acoustic lance]

🧢

[lament wren]

fuck ass mid gamemode

[idle spoke]

i have like 23 corruption things

[lament wren]

infinite 2.0 headass

[distant chasm]

Thing is odyssey would have been at least worth grinding if you could corrupt multiple times

[acoustic lance]

that thing was not fun

[distant chasm]

But corruption sucks ass

[lament wren]

corruption sucks ass

[idle spoke]

corruption lowkey is shit

[lament wren]

just do rerolls bro

[distant chasm]

And the mode is boring

[acoustic lance]

like they should add a lb for it to give ppl incentive to grind it otherwise no one is oding it

[idle spoke]

the enemy hp scaling is also shit as well

[acoustic lance]

or js bring paragon back

no one asked for this bootleg paragon rip off

[lament wren]

"this is how u make a gamemode" yes i will keep milking this

even AA's dungeon was better im just saying bro

[idle spoke]

they should’ve made odyssey savable or something

[distant chasm]

They need to humble themselves

[idle spoke]

like imagine doing 100 floors in 1 sitting

[acoustic lance]

aa's dungeons is the best gamemode i have played in any td so far

[distant chasm]

Every time they fix a bug they somehow implement 3 new bugs

[lament wren]

skip wakes dont even work it still consumes a huge amount of time

and the rewards are hell mid

[distant chasm]

Should have been like 100 waves in 1 go

Rather than 15 over multiple stages

[acoustic lance]

and when an upd drops the bugs are crazy

[idle spoke]

that’s 400 rounds if you always pick +25
400 minutes if you somehow clear each stage in 1 minute
SIX HOURS for floor 100

[acoustic lance]

i swear they are like 30 sum testers idk

[idle spoke]

and that’s if you clear everything in a minute, which is super farfetched

[distant chasm]

And the rewards are somehow worse than doing 30 minute challenges

[lament wren]

they dont exist

swear bro

[acoustic lance]

like lowkey they needa get aa's testers 100% bug proof upd

[idle spoke]

this is so true man 😭

[rare thicket]

Nah there’s 9 trust

[acoustic lance]

yup js fake ppl with fake roles to convince "testing is going on"

[acoustic lance]

yh would explain all the bugs lol

[rare thicket]

lol

[distant chasm]

I dont remember the last time a tournament wasnt bugged

[idle spoke]

we gonna have a R only game mode soon bro

[lament wren]

the reputation of being the buggiest td oat, will never go 💔

[acoustic lance]

the only time tournament was garbage was that garbage nature one when broly was the only one

[rare thicket]

Out of every character…why Broly…

[idle spoke]

could’ve been krillin 😼

[acoustic lance]

aint no one even use that dude bro 😭

...

[distant chasm]

They should honestly just make a dating sim

[lament wren]

broly super is our only hope 🙏

[idle spoke]

marry your units ts ts

[distant chasm]

Nobody cares about tfs

Tds

[rare thicket]

Ong

[distant chasm]

That was such a good suggestion

[rare thicket]

Funny suggestion

[acoustic lance]

av's last hope

[lament wren]

ts aint doki doki

[idle spoke]

highkey orbs > familiars

like astd orbs

[acoustic lance]

ong underated ahh take

[idle spoke]

much more better

[distant chasm]

I love getting a dogshit corruption on my familiar

[rare thicket]

Big suggestion when?!

[lament wren]

got me doing infs for the materials

[idle spoke]

+100% atk damage on placement is too fire

[rare thicket]

Biggest Suggestion everyone can agree on when?

[idle spoke]

monarch esdeath with flame orb doing 120k on placement

[fleet raven]

Fax

[rare thicket]

"ONE PIECE IS OVERANIMATED!!!" 🤓 ☝️

[slim tangle]

the one where they restock every shop every 2 days for inf rr

cause everyone loves them restock suggestions

[slim karma]

But it's not meant to take alot less than that he is the unit in the game also if u want someone who doesn't take long to grind for just get vegito 🤷

Astd 2x wasnt that fast thats why they had 3x which made it more "paytoprogress" faster every raid run people would look for people who have 3x to make it even more faster

[lament wren]

3x was basically cash grab

[slim karma]

Also none of the modes really take long to comeplete dungeon is the highest waves gamemode and it still only takes 20 mins AVG time

[woeful zenith]

Why is there still heat here💔

Delete the suggestion already

Oh god

67 🔥 reactions

[fierce orbit]

suggestion bl this bum

[woeful zenith]

Gonna keep posting this

Please mods💔

[slim tangle]

not needed

[acoustic lance]

nah it is some mf needa give him black list

[stable holly]

2x has been denied multiple times already

more suggestions about it are just flood

[floral kernel]

U hating on the success

[floral kernel]

“Multiple time” it only denied one time

[woeful zenith]

😭

deluisonal

[stable holly]

dude

[floral kernel]

And that was a long time ago when av doesn’t need 2x back then

[floral kernel]

?

[stable holly]

this is legit just sad

[woeful zenith]

Answer me this

is VSJW

Rare rarity

or what rarity is VSJW again?

remind me

[floral kernel]

Did u not read a single word I just stated? There gonna add more unit just like Sjw and it good time for them to 2x when that happen so people can get the new unit a faster

28+hour ☠️

[woeful zenith]

For what unit

thats available for how long?

Oh yeah

[floral kernel]

“Gonna add” can u not read

[woeful zenith]

For the duration of the games existance

[floral kernel]

Cap

[woeful zenith]

that's how long its available for

[woeful zenith]

DUDE

[floral kernel]

Not cap

[woeful zenith]

VSJW won't be removed

[floral kernel]

Game that had 2x have lot of people playing it

[woeful zenith]

That's the whole reason why they made the grind so tedious

[floral kernel]

Who say it getting removed?

Tf u on about

[woeful zenith]

Why did u say Cap here

like what

😭

ur tweakin dud

[woeful zenith]

Names?

[floral kernel]

I say cap when u say the extinction of the game

[woeful zenith]

Don't say Anime shit Stand 💔

[floral kernel]

Not sjw

Does bro not know what bro just say

☠️

[woeful zenith]

extinction?

dawg u good?

u reading what I typed correctly?

[floral kernel]

Didn’t say sjw

[floral kernel]

The game

Not sjw

[woeful zenith]

VSJW

is available

until the game

dies

or whatever happens

that is what I wrote

and that is what I meant

[floral kernel]

Ik, when did i say it gonna I’d be gone

[floral kernel]

Sure

[woeful zenith]

"Cap"

[wild holly]

y'all still yapping about a bad suggestion?

[floral kernel]

Didn’t bring up sjw

I say cap bc u say that right after my 2x

[woeful zenith]

So why did u say cap on that specific msg?

[tired crag]

HELL NAH 2K messages???

[floral kernel]

Tell him that

[woeful zenith]

@wild holly get a load of ths guy 💔

[floral kernel]

Look who talking

[woeful zenith]

Rage-bait suggestions go crazy

[tired crag]

[woeful zenith]

Ok lets TRY

[wild holly]

This game needs to have 0.5x speed

[woeful zenith]

and be logical here

OKK

lets try

so so so

why should we have the gift of 2x speed

[tired crag]

🐌

[woeful zenith]

ur reason being?

[slim tangle]

i wouldn’t mind this with these vsjw strats

[floral kernel]

Explain it

Already

[woeful zenith]

What

[floral kernel]

U just keep forgetting my word

[woeful zenith]

Ok so this is the reason

wait

[floral kernel]

Bro just prove my point

[woeful zenith]

is this

[wild holly]

This game doesn't need x2 speed lmao

[woeful zenith]

ur reason?

[floral kernel]

And more

[woeful zenith]

???

[woeful zenith]

ok

thats why I asked

whats ur reasonsssss(

[floral kernel]

Clueless like always

[floral kernel]

Scroll up and read from the beginning u started yapping

[woeful zenith]

Thats ur only reason u ever brought

up

only 2 paragraphs u managed to form

[wild holly]

Just play ALS if you want x2 speed

[woeful zenith]

💔

[wild holly]

Keep hiding behind artist role, common role 🥀

[floral kernel]

???

U can literally go look at the other artist and they don’t have a lot of role

Or they have around the same as me

[floral kernel]

Why does that even matter?

[wild holly]

I don't care about the other person

[floral kernel]

About my role

[floral kernel]

Crazy

[wild holly]

It explains why you want x2 speed

[woeful zenith]

Funnily enough it does matter in this case

its a sign u should get back to making some art

[floral kernel]

How is having less role explain my reason in wanting 2x

[woeful zenith]

and never suggest again

💔

please

[floral kernel]

I literally been in this sever longer then u

[woeful zenith]

go make some art

[wild holly]

Oh.

[woeful zenith]

LMAO

[floral kernel]

U know I join the server in earlier June but left the sever bc the game wasen’t out and there wasn’t there much to do in the sever vs now

[wild holly]

sure.

[floral kernel]

That just prove I don’t chat vs you

Back then

I join in 2024 and chatted in 2025

[wild holly]

cool

[silent charm]

is there any welcome bot etc

otherwise its kinda impossible to check

[floral kernel]

Maybe idk

[ocean vapor]

And why not 0.5x? More time to think 🔥

[fleet raven]

how does a role make that matter

actually shut the fuck up dude

💔

[floral kernel]

Agree

Mf brought up role when nobody was talking about role and shit

[fleet raven]

ppl like him are corny as shit bringing up roles for NO REASON

like its irrelevant to the topic

[fleet raven]

fr

[wild holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1340099888221786126/1350282609887936572/togif.gif

[fleet raven]

"my roles higher than yours"

like gng

nobody gives a shit besides you and its irrelevant

😭

it js proves you no life discord

[wild holly]

Yes, my role is higher than yours. Therefore your opinion sucks

[fleet raven]

ts gotta be ragebait

[woeful zenith]

the topic is such a joke

why even have a discussion on it

like what

[fleet raven]

we all got our own opinion and we're debating here bro

😭

[woeful zenith]

Ok wiw

[fleet raven]

if you can't debate js leave gng

[woeful zenith]

someone who wants to give reasoning

[fleet raven]

🙏

[woeful zenith]

sososo

so

can u list some reasons

[wild holly]

Yeah, and your opinion sucks

[woeful zenith]

why this is in any sort of way

a good idea

please

lay it on me

[fleet raven]

cuz i dont got the time to play and inf and dungeons take a long ass time

[wild holly]

2x speed is a bad feature

[fleet raven]

i dont got that time vro

or make a 1.5x like in the title bro

🙏

[woeful zenith]

You'll eventually get the time

The VSJW quest grind is here to stay

you have all the time in the world

anymore points?

[fleet raven]

yeah ik but man waiting that long sucks

[fleet raven]

worldlines

tkae

a very long time

also

[floral kernel]

Wouldn’t that make ur opinions suck bc am higher role

Like bro make no sense

☠️

That not how things work

[woeful zenith]

Ik Ik but it is what it is unfortunatley, I'm also suffering

[woeful zenith]

Yeah but like, its only 3 hrs

and the grind is mostly worth it

Frieren is bad though

[wild holly]

Nah artist roles don't count

[woeful zenith]

so this worldline is horrid

[fleet raven]

i thought it was longer than that i didn't know it was only 3 hours and yeah frieren is buns

[floral kernel]

Sureeee

Since u brought up role

Even tho nobody care or brought it up until u did

[wild holly]

You're still a filthy elite role

[fleet raven]

hes a proud artist

cuz he made

a good drawing

and post it here

so hes an artist

yeah

you dont got artist role

[floral kernel]

You just need to yap a lot lot just like this kid

To get his role

[fleet raven]

just cuz you said that breezyy im gonna post my art and get artist role

nvm i dont think i qualify

[slim tangle]

the stench

😭😭💔

[fleet raven]

r u able to play rn

?

[floral kernel]

In 25 min

[fleet raven]

oh okay

[floral kernel]

Am coming home rn

[fleet raven]

alright

[frank sleet]

They not adding this

Ya’ll really don’t listen to nth they say

[proven obsidian]

Why would they add this bruh

[polar maple]

This is a bad suggestion

[manic cape]

???

infinite is litearlly infinite

[crystal meteor]

Wrong one mb

[void bolt]

There’s literally no valid argument in favour of the suggestion itself besides “pls add i cba doing allat”

Pretty much, it’s why suggestions for more rr methods almost always do good

[azure mountain]

this was declined+ the games r already fast enough?

[near meteor]

what is this suggestion 💔 this game's 1x is almost equal to als 3x

survival on als takes 30 minutes without 3x(or 2x) and story takes 9~ ish

[frank sleet]

Ppl who agree really have the worst attention span💔

[teal coyote]

is this a troll suggestion

[weary marsh]

dawg

[weary marsh]

yea

pubic execution on april 30th

[rancid anvil]

I think for story mode sure give a 2x speed since nothing really changes but other than that it shouldn't be implemented

[near meteor]

bro each story map takes 3 minutes

😭

[jovial bluff]

so there IS a play timer there i never knew that

[rancid anvil]

the problem is that outside of the bosses it's just the same thing over and over again so ur playing like 2 hours of the same thing for horrid rewards

and that's assuming u have meta units which some new players do not in which case it will take 5 mins

maybe for the first few cuz of the free Vegeta but soul society onwards can't be solo with just Vegeta

[jovial bluff]

by then u can get stuff like saber

[rancid anvil]

that's assuming saber was in banner tho

I see ur point since there is other meta units but spending 20 minutes without changing ur play style at all in a game just isn't fun

[void bolt]

2x speed doesnt necessarily fix that

it just makes it slightly more bearable, until inevitably you get accustomed to matches moving 2x faster, then your mainly back at square 1

[rancid anvil]

I see ur point and it's kinda the fault of how anime tower defense game story modes are made in general but even super intuitive games like awtd don't do anything more than that

[jovial bluff]

other stuff can be good (etc goku, cu, etc)

[fickle marlin]

no way this made it on spotlight

[lament wren]

Rolecism lmao

[stable holly]

only reason this suggestion has this many stars is the fact that the op spammed reactions on it

you cant even see the x or L reactions rn you have to react them urself

[floral kernel]

That was LKB

Bro hating on the success☠️

[stable holly]

you realize i can see your reactions right?

[floral kernel]

Ye u can check urself

[heady fern]

kids don't understand how 2x works and how it would affect the game

that's all there is

[floral kernel]

I do? Unlike someone

I already explain why it just that u have horrible memories

Like ong

[heady fern]

no you dont broski, i already tried talking with you, you completely miss every single point

[floral kernel]

Gotta repeat myself 24/7

[floral kernel]

?

[heady fern]

tell me how it would affect the game then

[floral kernel]

Here we go again

[heady fern]

disprove whatever this guy said

show me your critical thinking skills

he's saying exactly what i said when ts was made

[wicked oxide]

x2 would just ruin the game, just my opinion. I’ve seen what happened to games that added it.

[heady fern]

i mean its not gonna ruin it straight up but it wont change anything

the game will scale for 2x

[wicked oxide]

Yup exactly

That would make it slowly worse

[floral kernel]

If anime vanguard add 2x it help newer playing I getting hard unit and long unit like sjw and there gonna add more long unit just like him. It can help with infinite and dungeons and other stuff. 2x can get more people to play the game like astd was debatably the best atd game of all time and it has 2x. Anime defend had 2x and it averaging 300-500k player every day at it peak. And anime ranger has 2x and they have more people playing the game and it has better rating. So overall if they 2x more people would play the game

Like u know people drop this game like many time

[heady fern]

2x does not fucking make a game great

astd wasnt good because of 2x

[floral kernel]

Bro did not read all of it

[heady fern]

what are you even saying

[floral kernel]

💀

[floral kernel]

Bro prove my point what ever I say bro don’t understand shit

[heady fern]

anime ranger is full of bots, not an argument either

[floral kernel]

Is it a atd game?

[heady fern]

you see how anyone understands what im saying and agrees but nobody is backing you up?

[floral kernel]

Every td game has bot

[heady fern]

why are YOU making an argument with this game then?

[floral kernel]

There is some people who back me

[heady fern]

And anime ranger has 2x and they have more people playing the game and it has better rating

thats what YOU said

[floral kernel]

U were offline for most

[floral kernel]

It example how game with 2x has lot of people playing the game?

[heady fern]

You completely miss what im and other peoplpe are saying

you did not disprove anything

why would a game NOT scale for 2x after its added?

[floral kernel]

Say the mf who brought up pet simulator☠️

That not even a td game

[heady fern]

yeah you are very dense

[floral kernel]

Cap

[heady fern]

do you know what a comparison is? a conecpt?

[floral kernel]

That pet simulator is not a td game

[heady fern]

do you understand that i dont need to touch a same genre to give you an understading of a concept

[floral kernel]

??!

[heady fern]

why does that matter, the situation is exactly the same

[floral kernel]

Touch?

[heady fern]

its EXACTLY the same

[floral kernel]

Cap

[heady fern]

pet sim 99 gave you CRAZY amounf of eggs to open at once and it made the chances for huge pets ATROCIOUSLY small

[floral kernel]

Bro does not know what a td game

☠️

[heady fern]

because of what? bacause EVERYONE can open 23490829048 eggs

because the game SCALES for that

[floral kernel]

There no unit ?

[heady fern]

its the same as any ATD game

[floral kernel]

Just lot of animals with like of damage

[heady fern]

als has 2-3x speed and it SCALES for that speed

[heady fern]

wow you lack any kind of critical thinking

[floral kernel]

First of all it not a td and it not anime

What are u on about

[floral kernel]

Say you

[heady fern]

a consideration or estimate of the similarities or dissimilarities between two things or people.

the representing of one thing or person as similar to or like another. His poetry invites comparison with the poems of Robert Frost. b. : an examination of two or more items to establish similarities and dissimilarities

[floral kernel]

Thinking pet similar is a anime tower defense game☠️

Bro stupid

[heady fern]

Comparing involves directly linking texts through their similarities and differences

The comparative form is used to compare two people, ideas, or things

do you understand what a comparison means?

[floral kernel]

They don’t got unit and other stuff like every atd game have

[heady fern]

after i told you like what, 5 times?

[floral kernel]

Like story and challenge a

[heady fern]

why would that matter? do you not understand the concept of what im trying to say

[floral kernel]

There tower defense game by placing a unit to defend ur tower☠️

How pet simulator a atd game

With u don’t defend shit and it not anime

[heady fern]

was i fucking saying that it was an atd game?

[floral kernel]

Yes

[heady fern]

where

[floral kernel]

.

[heady fern]

show me

exact message

[floral kernel]

Blind ass mf

[floral kernel]

I just did

[heady fern]

THATS THE CONCEPT OF SCALING

every game scales

als scales for 2-3x

[floral kernel]

Sureee

[heady fern]

NO ONE IS PLAYING 1x BECAUSE IT ISNT SCALED FOR 1x

[floral kernel]

Still not a td game

Idk what u yapping about

[heady fern]

how old are yoiu

if you are a kid i can understand the complete lack of critical thinking

[floral kernel]

17 and got a brain unlike someone

[heady fern]

you are not 17

dont lie to me

dont even try

[floral kernel]

Say the person who think pet simulator is a tower defense game

[floral kernel]

Am not?

[heady fern]

i hope you just get suggestion blacklisted

[floral kernel]

I guess we see

[heady fern]

people like you should not be allowed to touch this channel

[floral kernel]

U better pry then

[floral kernel]

Bro mad?

[heady fern]

they gotta add some kind of iq test

to determine who can and who cant make suggestions

[floral kernel]

Agree bc this sever cannot handle dumbass like u

Thinking pet simulator is a tower defense game☠️

[heady fern]

yeah thats exactly why no one disagrees with me besides you

[floral kernel]

Cap

Lot of people would disagree with u

[heady fern]

show me the message where i said that pet sim is an atd game

[floral kernel]

I just did

[heady fern]

no one did though

[floral kernel]

How bad is ur memories

☠️

[heady fern]

yeah you showed that it would scale like any atd game

Imagine a factory makes 1 toy every 1 minute.
Someone says: “Let’s make the conveyor belt go 2x faster! We’ll make toys faster and solve everything!”
But guess what?
Now everything else has to move 2x faster too — the workers, the machines, the tools.
If they all scale up with the speed, then:

You still make 1 toy per minute, just in half the real-world time.

You didn’t increase productivity — you just made everyone work faster.

The effort and output per toy didn’t change — only the pace did.

[floral kernel]

Pet simulator is not a atd

[floral kernel]

We talking about a game?

[heady fern]

i did not say that, i said that it scales with the amount of eggs you can open. If you can open 100 eggs at once it wouldnt make sense to make a pet 1 in 1m, so the game makes it 1 in 100m

[floral kernel]

Suree

[heady fern]

yeah and there are comparisons, you can google the word though

[floral kernel]

I compared game that are similar to av not a whole different game

💀

[heady fern]

im not comparing the games themselves — im comparing a concept that applies across many games (or systems): scaling.

concepts like scaling, probability, or speed apply across games, systems, and even irl. Just because im using another game to illustrate the idea doesn't mean I'm saying the games are the same. I'm explaining how a mechanic works, not comparing the games side by side

[floral kernel]

That doesn’t explain how 2x is bad vs me who actually gave example from other td game, how 2x benefits the game

[heady fern]

2x doesn't benefit

it takes the same amount of time to get everything with 2x speed

[floral kernel]

What a game with 2x that did bad the first few week it getting added ?

[heady fern]

sjwv will be fater to get, sure (28h as you said) . Next vanguard added - its a 28 hour grind with 2x speed

[floral kernel]

Have bro not play a game with 2x or what

[heady fern]

play als

[floral kernel]

?

[floral kernel]

☠️

[heady fern]

play any other atd with 2x

[floral kernel]

Name

[heady fern]

ad, als, btd6

[floral kernel]

Didn’t u say u had 6 account

To play the game and farm

Or what that someone else

☠️

[heady fern]

why does that matter

[floral kernel]

Bro not experience the fun of td game

[heady fern]

in btd6, NOT A ROBLOX GAME, even there the difficulty and balance stay exactly the same
you're not stronger, you're not earning more, and you're not progressing faster in game terms

it still for the most part scales for 2x

thats the basic speed everyone plays at

[floral kernel]

We talking about atd

???

[floral kernel]

When did I say it wasn’t?

[heady fern]

yeah that says alot about your knowledge

btd6 is literally one of the biggest inspirations for av

[floral kernel]

Bro prove my point about being shit

[heady fern]

one of THE BEST td games on the market rn

[floral kernel]

That not related to the topic just bring up other game

But not game that are similar to av

[heady fern]

concepts like scaling, probability, or speed apply across games, systems, and even irl. Just because im using another game to illustrate the idea doesn't mean I'm saying the games are the same. I'm explaining how a mechanic works, not comparing the games side by side

disprove what i said earlier

give me an answer to this

[floral kernel]

Copy and paste that shit lol

[heady fern]

does scaling exist in av only?

what is scaling, define scaling

define a meaning of comparison

2 words, i need their meanings defined by you

dont use google

[floral kernel]

Can bro not let me type

One question at a time

[heady fern]

have i muted you? you can type

[floral kernel]

Scaling is adjusting size,capacity and performance

[floral kernel]

Comparison is two or more thing to identify their similarities and differences

[heady fern]

scaling in games

[floral kernel]

Performance?

Of a game

And other stuff

[heady fern]

EXACTLY. Two or more THINGS

not specified

i can use another game as an example to give you an understanding of some mechanics

[floral kernel]

That doesn’t prove how 2x is bad☠️

[heady fern]

Imagine a factory makes 1 toy every 1 minute.
Someone says: “Let’s make the conveyor belt go 2x faster! We’ll make toys faster and solve everything!”
But guess what?
Now everything else has to move 2x faster too — the workers, the machines, the tools.
If they all scale up with the speed, then:

You still make 1 toy per minute, just in half the real-world time.

You didn’t increase productivity — you just made everyone work faster.

The effort and output per toy didn’t change — only the pace did.

[floral kernel]

Saying game that not td and doesn’t have 2x

[floral kernel]

Copy and paste

[floral kernel]

That not in game

How dumb are u

Do u not know how 2x work in td game?

[heady fern]

so what? why does that matter

Comparison is two or more thing to identify their similarities and differences

is it similar? it is

its an exact same concept

[floral kernel]

2x help the unit move faster and the attack making the game faster

[heady fern]

Now everything else has to move 2x faster too — the workers, the machines, the tools.
If they all scale up with the speed, then:

You still make 1 toy per minute, just in half the real-world time.

You didn’t increase productivity — you just made everyone work faster.

The effort and output per toy didn’t change — only the pace did.

the workers - towers
the machines - enemies

[floral kernel]

Like I give u example like if I do a story in anime defenders with take 10 min bc the unit are walking slow and other. With 2x the unit and ur attack goes faster and it only take u around 6 min

[floral kernel]

U can literally test this out

Play a story in anime defenders

Without 2x and see the time

And then play the same story with 2x and it shorter time

Mf does not know how 2x works

[heady fern]

yeah because it started scaling for 2x

[floral kernel]

[heady fern]

the game became crazy long at 1x because why would they scale their game for 1x

[floral kernel]

U don’t understand shit

[heady fern]

you don't, i even used irl comparisons for you to understand basic gaming concepts

[floral kernel]

1x?

[heady fern]

yes, 1x speed

[floral kernel]

1x doesn’t do anything are u stupid

When u time 1 it the same

Do u not know simple math

☠️

[heady fern]

oh my fucking god you are completely braindead

[floral kernel]

Say you

Who doesn’t know how 2x work

[heady fern]

holy shit you just completely miss every single point

[floral kernel]

And bring up other game

[fickle marlin]

only u and LKB agreed to the 2x speed

[floral kernel]

And doesn’t explain how 2x work

[heady fern]

can you just read this shit dude

[floral kernel]

Mf thinking 1x is the same as 2x☠️

[heady fern]

please read this shit this is embarassing

im genuinely baffled

[floral kernel]

and v6a

[heady fern]

how a 17 y.o can be so god fucking dammit dense to completely lack critical thinking to this extent

[floral kernel]

And mars

[floral kernel]

Say you who can’t understand a single thing

Bring up random ah topic

[heady fern]

Critical thinking is a kind of thinking in which you question, analyse, interpret, evaluate and make a judgement about what you read, hear, say, or write

interpret

you dont, you just say "thats not the same game!!!!"

[floral kernel]

Like it went from chatting about atd game to completely different things

[heady fern]

you dont connect a single dot

[floral kernel]

There not atd games?

[heady fern]

all you do to disprive my words is - "thats not the same game sooo sybau"

[heady fern]

yeah exactly, you dont have any kind of critical thinking

[floral kernel]

It does prove how 2x is bad when those game u name don’t have 2x in the first place

[heady fern]

you cannot interpret information

[floral kernel]

Pet simulator💀

[heady fern]

connect the dots, draw the parallels

i gave you gaming examples and i gave you irl examples

and you failed to comprehend any of those

[slim karma]

It's not more people playing it's more bots it was 1 main account with 3 bot accounts especially anime defenders and look what happened to the games with 2x where are they now?

[floral kernel]

How can I connect a two separate games atd , pet simulator and btd6 and factory workers☠️

Like how that all tie in with 2x being bad

Beside atd game

[heady fern]

Yep. Thats exaclty what tells me you dont have any critical thinking capabilities

looooool

[floral kernel]

Every atd has bots

Even av

[floral kernel]

Anime ranger is doing better then av surprisingly. Astd lack update and anime defenders devs just quit the game

[slim karma]

Yes and u said anime defenders had 300k to 500k "players" 💀

[heady fern]

thats your goat?

[floral kernel]

U make 0 sense changing the shit and adding random shit

[heady fern]

anime rangers x is botted to hell

[heady fern]

no you just dont have any critical thinking skills and completely miss the point

[floral kernel]

I don’t like anime ranger? Never stated that I only use it as an example

Plus the goat of td is astd

[heady fern]

hey can you help me out a little, im gonna ask you 1 question

[heady fern]

Imagine a factory makes 1 toy every 1 minute.
Someone says: “Let’s make the conveyor belt go 2x faster! We’ll make toys faster and solve everything!”
But guess what?
Now everything else has to move 2x faster too — the workers, the machines, the tools.
If they all scale up with the speed, then:

You still make 1 toy per minute, just in half the real-world time.

You didn’t increase productivity — you just made everyone work faster.

The effort and output per toy didn’t change — only the pace did.

can you connect the dots

[floral kernel]

At it peak? Can u not read

[heady fern]

do you understand why im saying this

[slim karma]

People like easier braindead games more anime rangers has auto play u join in a game and have auto play on 💀

[heady fern]

and what message does it contain

[floral kernel]

Draw it for me if u even can

[heady fern]

pet sim 99 gave you CRAZY amounf of eggs to open at once and it made the chances for huge pets ATROCIOUSLY small
because of what? bacause EVERYONE can open 23490829048 eggs
because the game SCALES for that

or this, do you see what im trying to say here?

[slim karma]

Ye this is true

[floral kernel]

I don’t like anime ranger with am surprise that many people with less amount of time like I say “ surprisingly”

[slim karma]

2x doesn't give longevity to a game

[floral kernel]

It does

[slim karma]

Bro where are the games u were talking about now?

[floral kernel]

Anime defender was the biggest td last year

[floral kernel]

Already explain can u not read

[heady fern]

because it was 70% bots

lmaoooo

[floral kernel]

. Like read my statement instead of skipping some of them

[floral kernel]

That AA

[heady fern]

thats AD

[floral kernel]

Cap

[slim karma]

Bro no way u were one of them people playing it thinking it's actual people 💀

[heady fern]

oh my god dont tell me you are that delusional

theres no way someone defends ad

[floral kernel]

aa people can join random people to do stuff

[heady fern]

am i seeing ts right

[floral kernel]

And some people just sit there and let the other player do the work

[floral kernel]

Christmas event is a good example

In AA

[heady fern]

ad is a much better example of botting loooooooloololoolololoollo

[floral kernel]

I play many td game

[heady fern]

this is insanity

genuinely

[floral kernel]

Saying av is better then AA is mad crazy

[heady fern]

this is just insane, everything you say is insane

[floral kernel]

💀

When av is literally based on AA

[slim karma]

So what happened to AA now?

[heady fern]

what the fuck are you on

[floral kernel]

Saying “connecting the dots and other bs “ ur more insane than everyone i chat with in this suggestion

[slim karma]

Why does it have 1k players 💀

[heady fern]

i NEVER mentioned av

[floral kernel]

It is?

Av is basic on aa and saying aa bad is crazy

[heady fern]

and yet most people would agree with me lol

[floral kernel]

CAP

[heady fern]

dude you need to take some pills

what the fuck are you on

[floral kernel]

AA lack update

[heady fern]

what are you even saying

im in a room with a mentaly ill person

[floral kernel]

They need to make an insane comeback update just what av did

[heady fern]

im gonna go crazy soon too

[floral kernel]

Like av use to average 10-20k maybe less

Until they made good update

[floral kernel]

?

I think the only mentally ill person is u

[slim karma]

It's not lack of update it's the trash updates after winter update they didn't do one proper update it didn't even have unit manager 💀

[heady fern]

unbelievable, do you listen to itself

i have not said a single thing about av

[floral kernel]

Agree

[heady fern]

yet you are putting words in my mouth about some kind of av vs aa?

[floral kernel]

The update were trash and boring

[slim karma]

That won't happen

[floral kernel]

When did I bring up that?

[floral kernel]

Ik bc aa probably gonna end up like anime defenders were the devs just gave up on the game

[floral kernel]

It is?

If u ask the og player they say

It better

[heady fern]

are we deadass right now

[floral kernel]

Aa>av back then

[heady fern]

you are a schizo

[slim karma]

So your point is something can't be better if it's based on another

[heady fern]

do you even read

[floral kernel]

Bro never experienced og as

Crazy

💀

[heady fern]

show me where i said something about av

this is just rage bait isnt it

and i fell for it

if so then thats a 10/10 ragebait right here

[floral kernel]

.

[heady fern]

do you read?

like actually

can you spend like 2 seconds of your time

to read

[floral kernel]

Mf saying lol to my examples

[heady fern]

this

[floral kernel]

Too busy scrolling up didn’t read text

[heady fern]

what did i say in this message

[heady fern]

.

quote me

[floral kernel]

Read I was too busy scrolling up before you said that

Meaning I didn’t see

[lament wren]

Av based on AA

Av based on AA

[proven obsidian]

How this shit has 100 stars

Yo mods lock this post

[floral kernel]

get on ur knee

and pry

[jovial bluff]

tis is buns

[woeful zenith]

104 fire reactions

wasn't it 68 last night

dawg 💔

[rancid anvil]

sjw SHOULD be a long grind he's literally top 3 units in the game. 2x should be implemented for certain game modes such as story mode since it cuts down 2 hours of gameplay down to an hour which is much better

[lament wren]

story modes? are we serious

[rancid anvil]

most of my friends who don't play av is cuz of story mode and other modes being too long. because if we're being honest newer players will probably do story mode, some challenges and maybe bounties since they don't have the units to do boss rushes or legends stages

I think the endgame content of av is cool it's just the early game gameplay loop is definitely a drag

[acoustic lance]

his not serious defo

story mode is the easiest and least time consuming game mode in game

[lament wren]

story mode is not long bro

what r u on

its only 5 mins you aint dying

[fiery valve]

Maybe he's trying to solo with nothing but his character

No units no nothing

Just him

[woeful zenith]

108 reactions

Lock in people

[rugged dagger]

real

[fiery valve]

The game cannot be that long

I've had literally no problems

You can ignore dungeon length if you're playing with friends and having fun

Same with long infinite runs

[woeful zenith]

The funny this is AV added the feature where u can skip story mode stages

To immediately go to content ur able to do

U can do the 1st stage of any map

[fiery valve]

Yeah you can just skip some stories entirely

You only have to do them for legend stage unlock and some quick gems

[woeful zenith]

It's still short whether u skip or not

[fleet raven]

I mean yeah but after like 10 runs wtf is there to talk about really

[rancid anvil]

wait when was this

if that's the case then nvm 2x probably isn't needed

[woeful zenith]

In the bleach update gng

[proven obsidian]

You mean the best unit in the game

[floral cypress]

WE all need this

[rare thicket]

Erm it only had 208k🤓☝️

[void bolt]

2x isn’t gonna get more people to play the game, it’s just going to kill it faster

It’s not a coincidence that AV’s player count both shot up and remained consistently high when more grindy updates came out

VSJW is by design supposed to take a long time, so arguing for 2x and using that as an example falls apart immediately. Adding 2x to infinite is going to A) encourage more mahcrowing and B) cause inflation on gems, and C) 2x speed is not going to do a thing for the player count

The suggestion very clearly isn’t made with the intention of improving the game, sorry but there’s no convincing anyone this wasn’t made purely for you

[void bolt]

None of those people provided good arguments, literally all of them just nodded their head to whatever you said without actually bringing anything substantial

[rare thicket]

😔 after 2x-3x speed was added it slowly died

[void bolt]

💔

[rare thicket]

I am lurking

[heady fern]

watch him perform more mental gymnastics in his stubborn denial after this

he's still gonna say something dumb

[rare thicket]

That’s gonna be fun to see

AD did NOT get 300-500k when they added 2-3x speed

[fiery valve]

By the way, "new" players are not meant to get vsjw so that's not even a valid argument

The same goes for any unit of his obtainment difficulty

[void bolt]

If I were to guess he’ll just keep disguising his argument under “AD hit 300k” or “it’s for the new players” when anyone can tell he just doesn’t wanna work as much for stuff that’s by design meant to be time consuming

[void bolt]

It falls apart even further with all the QoL the games added for newer players too

Like the vegeta quest

[fiery valve]

When I found out that was a thing I started raging

I got 2 monarchs before I got Vegeta from banner

[heady fern]

every single thing he said isnt a valid argument

[fiery valve]

And as soon as I evod him Lancer came out 😭

[void bolt]

Damn really? 💔

[heady fern]

all he says is "you dont understand anything" or "ad had 280k players after 2x"

[rare thicket]

208k*

;)

Then it died❤️

[void bolt]

It’s for the greater good of all AVians trust

[heady fern]

or when im trying to make a comparison, he says that "erm thats not a td game you're dumb"

[heady fern]

i hope auto upgrade gets added 😅 ✌️

[rare thicket]

I wonder when he’s gonna come online and start another argument with yall

[void bolt]

Idk

[rare thicket]

Make that a game pass ❤️
-# W idea am I right?!

[void bolt]

Realistically there’s no point in actually arguing against it because the devs have already said 2x speed isn’t happening, but it’s fun regardless

[rare thicket]

More pay to win

:)

[fiery valve]

50k robux too

[heady fern]

yoo thats a good idea, we need to add infinite stacking luck gamepass too

[rare thicket]

W price bro

[heady fern]

yk those pet sim go gamepasses

[void bolt]

And you need premium to even have the option to buy it

[heady fern]

2x then 4x then 8x and so on and so on

would be fye

[rare thicket]

Onb

[void bolt]

“Start at wave 15” would be such a great gamepass 🔥🖊

[heady fern]

lowkey hope they blacklist the 2x speed suggestions

[rare thicket]

Can’t they say in rules what they already said they aren’t adding?

[void bolt]

They probably will eventually

[fiery valve]

Hear me out
Auto Complete Gamepass- Instantly completes the stage you select at the click of a button

[void bolt]

To be fair, even if they did, most of the people who post this kinda stuff would just ignore it entirely

Would be nice to have a list regardless though

[rare thicket]

True 🫠

[void bolt]

“Cheater gamepass” pay 300 billion AVian-bucks to get sandbox perms in every single stage

[rare thicket]

Massive Suggestion when?

[lament wren]

Never

[rare thicket]

There will be one trust

One day

[woeful zenith]

114 fire reactions

114

114

[rare thicket]

155

:0

[woeful zenith]

I have massive suggestion

I DO

I RLLY DO

[rare thicket]

No u don’t

[woeful zenith]

WANNA CHECK IT OUT

I'll be on top

I DO

[rare thicket]

Sure

[woeful zenith]

I pinged u

Massive

[lament wren]

Def not the cosmetic one

[heady fern]

yeah he also flexes this

[lament wren]

Wish they can use their creativity more when it comes to shiny designs and cosmetics

😢

[heady fern]

i saw him saying "wanna make a bet?" replying to a message which said that this wont be added even if it'll do good

[lament wren]

Shiny units needs justice

[woeful zenith]

IAMATOMICS LIST IS MASSIVEEE

[heady fern]

i want to see his face when he discovers that one of my suggestions has 900+ stars and theres another guy with 1k stars

[lament wren]

Oh yeh

[heady fern]

and none of them were added

[lament wren]

The atomic thjng

I forgot you made that

[woeful zenith]

Yes sie

Sir

That's massive

[lament wren]

Literally like the most example I could think of is the alucard buff

[woeful zenith]

Because multiple suggestions in q

1*

[lament wren]

Like again more fire/star reactions does not mean it has a greater/guarantee chance of getting added

[fiery valve]

Yeah

It just has a higher chance of getting looked at by mod/dev

[rare thicket]

Bored as hell bwo

[woeful zenith]

OK so suggestion rewarder

If ur suggestions get a thumbs up by the devs

2 times

U got ur own suggestions channel

[Pro suggestions channel]

Name subject to change

[lament wren]

Diabolical

[woeful zenith]

Smth like that

[rare thicket]

Can’t they make sum sort of bumping command for a bot?
-# I am bored

[woeful zenith]

🔥

[woeful zenith]

Go to media

Goofy shit goes on there

[rare thicket]

Erm

[void bolt]

Does he know?

[rare thicket]

He doesn’t know

[void bolt]

Also

I hope the guy does realise that the only reason this has as many upvotes as it does

Is purely because it just means people get things faster

Not because it’s actually needed or improves the game

[rare thicket]

it’d just end up like AD
-# Dead

[void bolt]

Pretty much

[tidal echo]

But “Devs” barley react or talk in the channel, unless you count testers as devs

[frosty breach]

Counting testers as devs is like counting cashiers as bankers

[rare thicket]

What’s the differ-

[tidal echo]

Well we don’t know exactly what the responsibilities of testers are…

Ive heard that they influence balancing and mechanics added into the game and im assuming they work somewhat close with “Devs”

[frosty breach]

They test...

[rare thicket]

I don’t believe that

[tidal echo]

I’ve heard that they also have other responsibilities other then just simply testing🤷

I could be wrong im not a tester after all