#Vanguards = THE BEST
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Bump if you have monarch double god gogeta like me
And if you don’t you’ll get it soon
Absolutely not
no
Vanguards not = the best😭
dont fall for the ragebait
bro u realize when gogeta gets stunned its helps him right
You mean only if you have a pachiru?
I would agree but they updated diavolo
I would say vangaurds should have weaknesses ig
also asking for status ailment immunity when the unit does like double the damage shown is crazy
for me (monarchless) I would say I want to be able to use gogeta without monarch like I would vsjw who is pretty good as a three placement
Vanguard rarity units are the best so they dont need balancing
he slows all enemies and gains 5% damage permanetly when he gets stunned
...I'm actually impressed with the confidence you have in saying that


my guy
he has a 10% chance to not attack which is when he slow all enemy and gain 5% dmg buff
anyway
i dont agree to this post
i
a monarch gogeta with godly spa and dmg user
like this fellow here
dont want Gogeta to be immune to status ailments
that's Vegito's job
Gogeta is already way too op as he is
everyone disagreeing don’t got as many monarchs as me 🧏🏾♂️
You surely even got more chromosomes than the Rest of us 🙏
Yeah just make the baby game where everything is piss easy even easier
then buff him and nerf others?
hes the hardest unit in the game to get and only top 5
no
gogets alr op
He is not “hard” to get he is annoying to get
over 6m presents before i got mine
also gonna probably need 2.5k rerolls
until hes useable
because without monarhc hes terrible
Yes thats annoying not hard
I.e you were unlucky but the content is piss easy
well its annoying yes not really hard but
took forever
longer than any unit / any unit evo in the game
Okay but its a matter of luck
took 100s hours of grinding for a unit i cant use without monarch
why would i not use just someone better and 100x easier to get
You beat the game
he needs buff
Honestly just another example of why this game is just sloppy
There is something called collectors value
The entire point of the end game of av is to get the collectors units
So youre saying if you get lucky (by getting gogeta) you should be able to beat the game?
Imagine if any other game worked like that
thats literally the same with any meta unit
Him being annoying to get doesnt require him to be top 3 dps
i can get dawntay on a new account in 2 hours and after that ive beat the game
and dawntay doesnt need monarch
unlike gogeta
Yes
Thats you progressing the game normally to beat the content
You hit pity and get a meta mythic
You reach bp 25/50 and get a meta exclusive
Thats not luck based
i have gogeta
and use him all thhe time
but him not taking stun n shi is kinda nice cuz u can use that one familiar that does more dmg with stun
Okay, and?
What does that have to do with the topic being awful?
His main argument was giving gogeta that
But that would contradict gogetas kit
Making his main argument invalid
Therefore
Making the topic invalid
ok they MIGHT be right about low levels posting garbage 😭
another reason added the long ass list 
My suggestion is great tho
never seen it or forgot
QOL console edition
yeah never looked at it
If you don’t play on console it doesn’t matter too much
Only caters to console players
doesnt matter how many monarch you got
for your argument
the amount of Monarch you get to use as a point in this thread is 3
VSJW, Diavolo and Gogeta
VSJW is litterally the best unit in the game
so you're suggesting something already exist
Diavolo and Gogeta also hold a good spot on the tier list
the reason for Diavolo and Gogeta not being the best is because they're limited unit
so the devs need to make sure that lucky players wont keep being OP
the highest on the tierlist was and is an always obtainable unit
Alucard, Saber, Yuawach, VSJW
and use a different argument other than "oOh yoU gUys dOnt hAve aS MucH anD aS gOod unIt As mE
"
you'd only tell us how high you were dropped as an infant
yes guys im taking the bait
i wanna see how far this could get

someone doesn’t have a bunch of monarchs 😭😭😭😭
i have Monarch Vegita an Monarch Gogeta
good enough for me
my point still stand
if anything it makes you look like a beta
like if anything youre the one whos mad bc you have monarch gogeta double godly and theyre not top 3
Cmon guys this is obvious bait
just go get a tripple godly Monarch VSJW lil child
that's what your suggestion basically is
rage bait
you can stand outside and witness the lil kid getting trashed on
you can skip this
or you can join
thesse mf
want to ruin balance
+1 suggestion black list
this is cap
diavolo isnt that good atm
his kit is mid compared to other units
vergil/dante who are only bp units has more dps than him
same with yhwach
he's a support and is a sub-dps
his kit is mainly for support
you cant just compare a support to dps in damage
or else Lucy will be in the garbage tier
but her ability is what make her a good unit
and compare to a support
Diavolo's damage is pretty goddamn high
So ye guys pls try to think and actually play the game before you say anything

okay, and?
dps isnt everything 😂
what is his actual purpose?
only exists for shibuya tourneys
lb runs? he was never used for the previous season because there were better options
maybe it's YOU that don't play the game
luce uh,
I wouldn't say she's that broken the way you say it
These are the things her passive does not work on
right now she's only used for rifts/dd
In what situation is a 30 second stall not the best in slot
Also the previous season isnt exactly indicative of the current state considering it was bugged like crazy
if 30 stall was so good then how come people arent using it for tourneys?
in kills/damage tourneys
I would send you a youtube link but I can't
Awavia literally used diavolo 2 weeks ago
In the kill tournament
I have double god monarch vsjw unfortunately I need him as deadeye 💔
Everyone calling this rage bait but I’m dead serious 😭
Why is my vanguard being stunned but my mythic isn’t
There’s like 10+ characters immune to stun just make gogeta immune as well
everyone disagreeing just weird asl
Probably because the vanguard was designed to have a bit of a weakness while other characters were designed to be immune to stun
use your brain bro diff units have differnt designs by your logic they should js make every vanguard full aoe and immune to everything 💀
For your sake I hope this is ragebait💀
Where did i say she is broken
I said she's a good unit
There you go
Him not being immune to status ailments does not stop him from being the best
nah Gogeta doesn’t need status ailment immunity
He already has a ton of damage output
Oh yeah for this
He's definitely been used
He's not always used because based on the team, the support might be different
He's a good support
But aint the best
He’s also pretty nice for progressive gamemodes as well
“Collectors value” my friend, I would be surprised if Gogeta is worth 30 rerolls when trade comes around 💔
yeah obviously the economy and balancing in this game has been cooked since launch
im just saying collectors value was the original INTENTION behind vanguard rarity
diavolo: 😁
gogeta: 😡
And then people realized that collector's value is a terrible metric to base a unit like that off of lmao
aint nobody wanna grind that
yes but this guy is saying that this vanguard unit which could take up to weeks worth of time to obtain should also be a mandatory meta pick
which is arguably way worse
yes which is a good thing
gogeta is in a good spot right now
this guy wants him to be top 3 minimum
Oh yeah nah 💀
this shitter barely know what the units do
and he is suggesting something? Seriously?
its another guy who got the passive wrong
mods ban this man from suggestions
Unbump
yall all some haters
you’re all broke, no friends, bitches, tubs of lard, bed room of roaches, haven’t showered in years.
Yall don’t got as much monarchs as me
I don’t care I stand on my suggestion
Default profile on discord like you not nonchalant
Wrap it bud
YALL DONT GOT SHIT ON ME
You can stand on it by giving actual points and arguments instead of attacking the opposition
u don’t got shit on me

I think we should ban this guy
Being under the age of 13 is against discord's law
And i doubt this toddler is even over 7
monarch dante and alucard 🥀
i would rather not spend all my gold setting up 3 dantes over my other monarchs but that could be just me ✌️
85% crit with deadeye at base 🥀
greedy mf
DAWG SPARE ME SOME