Odyssey Changes

[hidden quail]

the only reason to play odyssey rn is if u are trying to min-max familiars, but more often than not, the corruption just messes up your familiars and you need to do another odyssey run just to remove it (its bugged half the time and doesnt let you remove it)

[modest vale]

theres 1 option that messes up your familiar, the other 3 either buff them or dont do anything
and im pretty sure reversion is working fine now

[hidden quail]

one does nothing, one messes up, and one is useless.

cus like if im trying to buff my +5% unbound dmg familiar for my monarch aizen, why would i want +10% dmg for nature 😭

[mossy vale]

so, a bit more explanation on our issues with figuring out a good balance on rewards:

a primary concern is the significant disparity in how quickly players can earn rewards. theres a large gap between players who minmax & can acquire rewards in minutes, and the average player who faces a much longer time investment.

originally, i had in mind for odyssey to have slightly better gem rewards than standard act progression or AFK methods. however, this immediately brings up a potential motivation issue: if Odyssey is only slightly more rewarding than activities that can be done with minimal attention ('brain-off') or even while AFK, why would players choose the more demanding Odyssey mode? the reward structure needs to be compelling enough to justify the active engagement it requires over lower-effort alternatives.

however, if we raise the reward gain to be compelling enough, players will try and minmax the mode instead of engaging & having fun, which was our primary goal with the mode. so this is a bit of a "damned if you do, damned if you dont" situation for us

[flint loom]

Raise up the rewards

30x is too much

Rise it up to 100c per day

Or more

[flint loom]

Or make elite mode have no cap

[native oar]

May be u should try to Rework rewarding system itself? Like in raids (ant raid i mean) . I think it will add some challenge to oddysey and people will still have fun while playing it.

[gentle chasm]

fix culling too

[hidden quail]

one of my issues that makes odyssey un enjoyable is the sheer rng of everything. it feels like you are hardly playing the game and just hoping you get good modifiers/abilities. your starting unit is random, your unit unlocks are random, your modifiers from chests are like 1/30, getting the right thing from the shop is random, unlocking extra placements/prodigy on the correct unit is random. not only this, but the main appeal (corruption) is also completely rng which can screw over your familiar. all of this combined leads to a very boring and unrewarding experience.

if you buff the rewards, you could always add a cap to how much you can get. for example, buff the rewards by _ (placeholder) amount but you only get rewards from the first two (placeholder) odyssey’s of the day. this would give players who have limited time and cannot mango some good rewards without afking. it doesnt need to be better/worse, it could just be an alternative reward method that is more efficient for time crunched players.

[mystic cobalt]

I'm so sry I got boo and got monarch

W Game guys

Godly spa too 😭😭👌👍👍

[hidden quail]

acting like he is the worst unit in the game post nerf

[mystic cobalt]

Not rlly just way harder to get candy if you're placing other units, and u can imagine having to get that for 3 placements if u don't have monarch but anyways IDC I alr got him monarch 🤗

[native oar]

Tier list of worst units in update(torney and lb doesnt count)
1.Rohan
2. Hercool
3.boo
(It doesnt mean this units bad, they all good but other units in update just better)

[fleet berry]

pyseph thats literally nothing for the amount of time it takes

bounties give 500 and take 5 only minutes

[native oar]

DELETE IT NOW

They will nerf bountys

Gatekeep it

[fleet berry]

odyssey rewards wouldve been op in like upd 0,5

[native oar]

Bc all was saying that kisuke better than Alucard, and what they did? Right nerfed kisuke

Gatekeep my bountyes

I dont want to get 100 gems per bounty

[hidden quail]

gohan underrated, av players js cant read

[fleet berry]

gohan is so broken

[hidden quail]

is vergil any good? i hear he is kinda mid

[native oar]

I dont say he is bad. Im just think that he worse than other units in this update

Im scared

He is typing so Long

[whole ferry]

bounties are daily odyssey isnt

[hidden quail]

imo, the bottom 3 units of this upd are mr. satan, vegito, and gohan

[hidden quail]

u get 10 of them daily

[modest vale]

my bottom 3 :

1. stone lee
2. lethal bee
3. octopus

[hidden quail]

prob bad though since i really havent tested bp units

[hidden quail]

real

[native oar]

Best tier list

[fleet berry]

dawg you legit have 10 bounties

no way someone does all 10 and is like "i need more"

[modest vale]

bp units are good
there isnt really any bad units this upd
even gohan can get some insane dps if he has deadeye

[hidden quail]

yeah all upd units are really good

[whole ferry]

but this was you talking about the time it takes?

[native oar]

Dante can do around 30k dps if u luck enough and has deadeye on him

[hidden quail]

vegito could use some passive tweaking though, it js that his kit doesnt make too much sense and 99% of the time is worse than having goku + vegeta

[native oar]

Yeah this is why i say (i dont say this units bad)

[modest vale]

deadeye gohan with decent stats is like 17k dps on average😭
but he is kinda a deadeye crutch

[hidden quail]

monarch is insane on gohan when paired with lag shooter

js use mr. satan and give him pupper familiar

[fleet berry]

bounties are way more time efficient

than odyssey

[hidden quail]

all ten bounties in the time it takes for 2 game of odyssey to 1k intensity

[mystic cobalt]

Ye but For the amount of work u put into Odyssey itt not rlly worth doing(MB I'm agreeing with u)

[native oar]

Wait fr? My average run in oddysey 1 hour

If i clear bounty stage in 5 min(average) it will took me 50 mins

[hidden quail]

more like 6-7 minute average

[native oar]

And il get 5k gems and 10 traits

[hidden quail]

depends though

[native oar]

Its mine averege

I have vsjw

Monarch

So it prerty ez for me

[hidden quail]

same

depends on map

though

[native oar]

Yeah

Long clear only on god statue and leg stages golden castle

[hidden quail]

if you bring 4 meta dps and then 2 farms to odyssey, you can just spam skip waves, place all your units, win, repeat

if u get prodigy its auto win

[native oar]

Mine own army

(On this photo 164 ram and rems btw)

[hidden quail]

ragna with like 50 placements or smth (not my ss)

[native oar]

Lol

[gentle spoke]

Can you explain how this even happens

cause it just seems like to much work

[fleet berry]

odyssey should go up to 2.5k intensity tbh

like the further you go the better you get rewarded

[hidden quail]

basically after every game above 100 intensity, you can increase the placements of your unit by +1/+2

u could get like 50 ragna placements

and place buffers

[native oar]

Simple. Ragna save his previous buffs and in oddyseyu can have like 60 placement on Ragna so multiplye his dmg 60 times

[gentle spoke]

I understand that part but wouldn't getting that amount of buff take AGES

[hidden quail]

and spam place him in the buffers

[gentle spoke]

you'd need to keep spam placing him

just to win the round anyways in like less than a minute

[hidden quail]

not really if u have supports, u can js skip his passive

[gentle spoke]

i see

[native oar]

Its ez if u have trait that max out unit

On placement

[hidden quail]

monarch mr. satan 2 rrs

💔

[versed storm]

Who

[hidden quail]

i was going for scholar

might js be me coping but hes not even an awful unit with monarch

like 20k dps with db unit buff and 50% crit

[native oar]

Still his main purpose is suppurring so i think deadeye would be better (+with deadeye he actually increasing crit dmg on 85% bc of passive)

On himself ofc

[hidden quail]

2 rrs is 2 rrs and i will take it 🤷‍♂️

and also he will often times have max passive regardless of deadeye or not

cus he has 4.8 second spa, it lasts for 15 seconds, and he has 50% crit

[native oar]

392 trait rerrols on boo for 3 solars

And 1 trait rerrols on dante and i got solar

[celest plaza]

you nerfed the rewards 💔

[native oar]

Oh btw

Boo buffed

[celest plaza]

made it harder to grind corrupted shards, the main focus of the content

[hidden quail]

floor 5 = 1 corrupt shard
floor 10 =2 corrupt shards

[celest plaza]

rn its floor 2 = 1 corrupt shard

[hidden quail]

no?

[celest plaza]

???

yes?

go look

rn u get 1 corrupt shard from floor 2

so you can just leave after you beat it if ur grinding only corrupt shards

u just removed that capability

horrendous

[hidden quail]

they already buffed the rewards

[celest plaza]

you made it worse rates for corrupt shards

[hidden quail]

may aswell approve my suggestion atp

[celest plaza]

hell nah

[hidden quail]

old rewards

[celest plaza]

made it worse to get the content focused reward

[celest plaza]

that was release rewards

not current

they alr changed it to be way better

ur suggestion makes it worse than it is rn

[hidden quail]

thats what i said

😭

i made the suggestion before they buffed it

ong what do u not understand

[celest plaza]

uh?

they buffed it before suggestions were open 💔

[hidden quail]

did they?

[celest plaza]

yea

[hidden quail]

i edited my message

[celest plaza]

there are still changes to be done but the loot pool definitely aint it

mainly how long it takes to do a run

[hidden quail]

i also said they were placeholder values, its up to the balancers to buff the rewards. im just looking for some kind of increase

[celest plaza]

over an hour while being unable to do anything else 💔

[celest plaza]

well have u not checked it since release?

they changed it like 12 hours after the update came out

[hidden quail]

ik they were buffed, does the upd log say when?

[celest plaza]

uh i dont think so

but im pretty sure it was the same day they did the odysseyfix rewards

[mystic cobalt]

After grind for bro since Sunday 🥹

[fringe silo]

badacious baboon

grey chimp guy

[gentle spoke]

Amazing changes made today on Odyssey but you can p-please look into the soft-lock bug going on in #1255566269814407169 when you free p-please 🥺

[mossy vale]

were aware of it, but no idea how/why it happens

[gentle spoke]

Everyone somehow is gonna blame you for this

[hidden quail]

happens to me whenever i autoclick “skip wave”

[gentle spoke]

Just make sure to check your F9 logs

[mossy vale]

@graceful halo

[gentle spoke]

I am still in a bugged one right now

[mossy vale]

buh

<@&1220626451749929011>

[mossy vale]

^

[gentle spoke]

Seilorenso gonna ban us all for not using the bug reports channel

[modest vale]

ah so thats what makes it break

[desert pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1131208427822125138/1253196254431936575/GIF_20240602_080928_395.gif

[desert pumice]

will u report it

[modest vale]

if it actually happens to me yea

[desert pumice]

oke

[mossy vale]

all u testers suck

i figured it out

[mossy vale]

it happens if u press skip wave before starting match/voting yes

[gentle spoke]

...

[modest vale]

silly av players
why would they do that

[gentle spoke]

Cause funny green button save time

[mossy vale]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-whatever-go-my-true-scarab-go-my-scarab-morgan-freeman-gif-3091971228562826566

[modest vale]

not when the game isnt running😭

[gentle spoke]

You are right, thats why I am introducing next update in settings, "Auto Start Match"

[jolly laurel]

actaully?

[mossy vale]

no harley i lied

🖕

[jolly laurel]

ok ill figure it out py

[mossy vale]

that was

saracsem

[jolly laurel]

ii know

[shy nimbus]

why so much yap

[mossy vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241494817049936024/1360798795125887076/image0.gif

[modest vale]

so i think im just immune to the bug or something
im pressing skip wave at basically all times and my game doesnt break😭

[mossy vale]

cuz i already fixed it

this are tester

[modest vale]

i should still be in a match where its broken

but ig

[gentle spoke]

Before you go its been like 3 updates now...can you put the word in to fix jogo skin

I want to use his money effect

ITS BEEN UPDATES

🧎‍♂️‍➡️ PLEEASE

[mossy vale]

<@&1220626451749929011>

😁

[gentle spoke]

THANK YOU 🙏

[modest vale]

a report has been sitting about it for over a month

[gentle spoke]

SEEEE

[mossy vale]

oh huh

[modest vale]

https://discord.com/channels/1271021028587606016/1345072648299745361

[mossy vale]

idk its not on our tracker

can u make new report

[modest vale]

weird but ok

[hidden quail]

bro ts not bug reports 🙏🏿

[gentle spoke]

Seilorenso if you read this, let me live.

[shy nimbus]

almost every like cosmetics dont work ingame

[gentle spoke]

Really?

I only noticed jogo months ago

[shy nimbus]

try others like gojo, choso, vegito etc

[jolly laurel]

did we not test all cosmetics

[shy nimbus]

and oh yeh get into a random round story or anything it wont work

[gentle spoke]

I thought they fixed that recently

[shy nimbus]

lemme try

[gentle spoke]

Cause before you couldn't wear Roku's cosmetic in a game

now you can

[shy nimbus]

and oh yeh

whenever u like use a model

[gentle spoke]

Also

G Money

[shy nimbus]

the animation u were using gets removed for sum reason

[modest vale]

the report on it just didnt appear for them😭

[gentle spoke]

Let the team know its still not fixed

after the patch

[shy nimbus]

like

i have to equip that animation again

which is weird tbh

[gentle spoke]

Something I did try was opening the odyssey shop

before starting the next round

Idk what could be causing it

[modest vale]

why u guys always breaking shit

[shy nimbus]

what did i do

[gentle spoke]

:((

[modest vale]

stop breaking the game

[gentle spoke]

I blame diavolo

Ima move this over to #1255566269814407169

One momento

#1362599459497709649

👍

[flint loom]

He’s OP

You will need him to get in the WL lb

Cuz he’s immune to the dmg debuffs in db map

[rigid ginkgo]

I mean

Just use Vsjw

granted ease of access is pretty big

[flint loom]

He’s not helping in db maps

Low DPs

And they be tanky asf with their 100% overshield

[rigid ginkgo]

my sjw never really struggled

GRANTED

I finished wordlines early

and havnt touched it since

[hidden quail]

bump

js got a 4th alucard, what do i even do with ts

1.6m gems spent btw 😭

[hidden quail]

bump

[steady flicker]

3k gold

[hidden quail]

💔

there is defo smth wrong with you

[tepid aspen]

Bump

[zealous dove]

just scrap this fucking gamemode

cant even play

[celest plaza]

💀

[steady flicker]

yeah they hyped this mode up a little too much

[celest plaza]

itd be fine if it just took half as long to complete and wasnt as buggy imo

ts takes minimum an hour to complete rn

and if u leave or disconnect at any time u lose all the progress

and the rewards aint all that good until u get to 800 intensity or higher for the majority of players

[hidden quail]

bump

[gentle spoke]

You use the other ones to try to pull monarch

[hidden quail]

awful idea, you will never hit pity like that

and eth is better than monarch on alu anyways

[fringe silo]

it is though

[hidden quail]

bump

[steady flicker]

legit is though, his dps is laughably bad these days even with monarch

and he takes a fucking eternity to even get to that dps

like 30 waves of setup to do less dps than placement diavolo 😭

[gentle spoke]

Oh i wasnt like saying its bad

Just news to me cause on my main I have monarch but on alt I have shiny ethereal

Chillin I guess

[rigid ginkgo]

Must be nice...

[hidden quail]

bump

[hidden quail]

tengen

[shy nimbus]

B

[hidden quail]

bump

[zealous dove]

Dude I seen you ingame

Wanted to jug you for being lvl 70 with shiny alucard

Curses

[hidden quail]

bump

[hidden quail]

bump

[zealous dove]

Yay

[shy nimbus]

B

[mystic cobalt]

Bump

[hidden quail]

bump

[hidden quail]

bump

[mystic cobalt]

Bump

[native oar]

Bump

[mystic cobalt]

Bump 🥭

[native oar]

Bumo

[native oar]

Bump

[hidden quail]

they are completely reworking odyssey so there is no point in bumping this anymore