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[upbeat granite]

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[tepid bobcat]

difficult passive is like the salter's passive this is the hardest passive to understand for me

and easy passive is like vegeto passive, and ik its just very easy mecanic so it's easy to understand

[nimble hound]

Why

[tepid bobcat]

why what ?

[nimble hound]

Why make them easier

[tepid bobcat]

to make it more understandable

[formal mist]

Dawg use Google translate

[nimble hound]

Compromise gameplay so you can understand it better🤔

[tepid bobcat]

when i say easier passive i don't want to change a complex passive to a simple passive

i just ask, when they do the passive, they use simple word

[signal helm]

Just don't be dumb

Simple as that

[tepid bobcat]

to be more understandable

[nimble hound]

Are they not simple already?

[signal helm]

I thought they were

[tepid bobcat]

this is simple, but for me the salter passive is not rly simple

[nimble hound]

I don’t get whats so hard to understand in this passive

[signal helm]

????

[nimble hound]

How so???

[tepid bobcat]

bro read what i said, not all guy are english

[signal helm]

Salter is just a lot of text since her passives do a lot

[formal mist]

He's not fluent in English

[signal helm]

It's not hard to understand

[nimble hound]

Someone send salters passive pretty please

Do they use big words or sum in it?

[formal mist]

I do agree the wording is weird but if u use 2 braincells I guarantee u will understand

[tepid bobcat]

is not hard for you

[signal helm]

Nah just some sokora specific interaction text

[ionic narwhal]

Respectfully, if you cant understand this then i suggest learning english a bit

[round fulcrum]

@next light me no english

[tepid bobcat]

yeah, this is not my principal language

[ionic narwhal]

I dont see a way to dumb this down further than it already is

[signal helm]

Which just dumbs down to: based on sokora spa do a 2nd attack with 50% damage

[tepid bobcat]

i said vegeto is easy to understand

[signal helm]

But that's with dumbing it down to like a 2nd grade reading level

[round fulcrum]

they could just do that

[tepid bobcat]

i talk about her second passive, and the ability of sokora

[round fulcrum]

add an option to make all passives only display buffs etc

For people who's first language isnt english

[signal helm]

Which part specifically

[tepid bobcat]

thanks

[signal helm]

Is hard to understand

[next light]

All of it

[signal helm]

Dumb

You should have the same name as the guy typing

[gusty vigil]

Bro wants him to have his damage based on his passive, bro couldn't be diavolo

[signal helm]

That guy

[round fulcrum]

nah that was tuff as hell

[next light]

Nah ur tuff

[round fulcrum]

nah boi u cold boi

[next light]

Speak another language

[tepid bobcat]

now i know all passive so when i read it like easy to understand

[round fulcrum]

bros like me no english

[signal helm]

Play English game -> complain when it's in english

What

[round fulcrum]

?

nice bait man haha....

[signal helm]

I wish it was :(

[tepid bobcat]

bro why are u like that, just doing more simple word for other person who english isn't the first language is too hard ?

[signal helm]

It's hard to dumb stuff down yes

They already make it readable by elementary age children

They shouldn't need to accommodate preschoolers too

[tepid bobcat]

don't try to discredit what i'm trying to say

[next light]

He’s just ragebaiting

Don’t bother

[signal helm]

It wasn't meant for you

[tepid bobcat]

yeah i see that

[cerulean coyote]

i dont get this suggestion

[signal helm]

People say others are ragebaiting just because they disagree with them 💔

Insane

[ionic narwhal]

2 1

Those who know

[signal helm]

He's saying make it a toddler level of reaching comprehension

Like with just exactly what it does and nothing else

Which is already what it does

[gusty vigil]

1st passive
When they fuse
Damage 2x
Spa 1x
Range 1x

After 40 seconds
Damage 1.2x
Spa 0.8x
Range 1.2x

2nd passive
Enemy will always target Vegito then get range buff; disable regeneration

3rd passive
Perfect Kon familiar and Diavolo counter attack

Idk what you dont understand about that, just google translate it

[signal helm]

But with easier words

[tepid bobcat]

I just wanted him to use simpler words, not that they change the passives to make the units more boring, but he's ragebaiting

[signal helm]

"ragebaiting" this and "ragebaiting" that, why don't you learn to read and comprehend instead of complain

If anything they should make them more complex to read so y'all learn something

[tepid bobcat]

not toddler, i'm not toddler bro, i'm just not english

[gusty vigil]

We have this in google called "Translate"

[rich yew]

?

ur so stupid

just ask for help then

[signal helm]

Toddler LEVEL of reading comprehension

[rich yew]

no need to rework the passives cuz some dumbass dude cannot understand it

💔

[signal helm]

Fr 1970

[tepid bobcat]

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO READ MY SUGGESTIONNNNNN I SAID vegeto passive IS VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND, I SAID TO MAKE MORE PASSIVE LIKE HIM

[signal helm]

I don't usually agree with you but you're right about this one

[tepid bobcat]

again i don't have toddler LEVEL

[signal helm]

This suggestion is useless

[signal helm]

If you couldn't understand Salter's passives then you might

[tepid bobcat]

what is that community

[signal helm]

They are not hard to read bro

[ionic narwhal]

Check out my cat guys

[rich yew]

every community is toxic

sybau

cope with it

[signal helm]

Such a good cat

[gusty vigil]

It isn't even confusing, what are you talking about, earlier you cant understand now you say it was easy to understand, IS THIS A GODDAMN RAGEBAIT SUGGESTION??

[signal helm]

Can we get Draedon's Cat as a unit in the game

[gusty vigil]

Definitely rage bait im outta here

[signal helm]

That's what I'm sayin

[gusty vigil]

Hope your meal doesnt taste good

[signal helm]

He says I'm ragebaiting while his entire suggestion and arguments are conflicting

[tepid bobcat]

bro i said vegeto passive is easy to understand, " We understand all passives"

[gusty vigil]

Fr bro, ask a mod to lock this post, it's just a goddamn ragebait

Aint helping

[tepid bobcat]

nah is rly crazy

[gusty vigil]

Then what is this suggestion for?

[upper barn]

They have already tried to improve some passive wording

[cerulean coyote]

so whats this suggestion about

[nimble hound]

Nono check out my cat

[gusty vigil]

Future units or vegito himself?

[tepid bobcat]

just 2 good person in this suggestion

[cerulean coyote]

since of all passives, i think this one is easy to understand

[ionic narwhal]

Good cat, good symmetry

[gusty vigil]

There is no point in this suggestion

[tepid bobcat]

oh mb idk that

[tepid bobcat]

is about to do more passive with simple word LIKE the vegeto's passive

[signal helm]

He means 2 people that agree with him 💔

[tepid bobcat]

just that

[formal mist]

Yall aren't solving the problem so I'll do it myself this is the simplest it can be even my 8yo cousin understands it if u can't idk if u even know English

The Strongest Fusion
When vegeto is placed down

He gets +100% damage for 40 seconds.

After 40 seconds he llose the 100% dmg but gets:

+20% damage

20% faster attacks

20% more range

His attacks will always hit even if the dodge card is active

Alright!

If an enemy tries to attack a unit it will attack vegeto instead

Every time this happens vegitos range goes up by 3% (up to 30%).

Vegetos attacks causes Rupture (Rupture, preventing enemies from regenerating permanently. What lancer does)

Enough!

Vegetos attacks ignore 50% of the enemy's damage reduction.

If an enemy attacks or puts a status effect on this unit, vegeto will attack that enemy

[ionic narwhal]

Those who grow: ☘️

[nimble hound]

I know

[gusty vigil]

Alright i think i now get bis point

[upper barn]

Yeah, either Pyseph talks in Moon Cryptics irl or all AV Devs do that,
Or they aren't native proper English speakers.
They did noted about it once before

[tepid bobcat]

nah, all person who disagree with me are insulting me, what is that

[signal helm]

See you have above toddler level reading comprehension, must be why you didn't make the suggestion then

[gusty vigil]

he says other unit passives are harder to understand like from salter's passive which is too long

[signal helm]

You are the one insulting yourself by saying you can't read simple to read passives, we are just agreeing with you

[tepid bobcat]

bro i said i understand the vegeto passive, just do more simple passive like him

[nimble hound]

Not personally trying to insult you but they already made passives very clear to understand

[gusty vigil]

You should have suggested to reword all other unit passive wordings instead of using vegito as your model

[nimble hound]

[signal helm]

I tried saying that at first but then he called me a ragebaiter

[signal helm]

So it is how it is

[formal mist]

Yh I mean it's already simple enough tbh anyone should understand it

[gusty vigil]

This is suggestion isn't about Vegito, but the wordings of other unit passives, damn this is a ragebait

[signal helm]

Yeah imma be honest I don't know a single unit in the game I had to ask questions on how they worked, they are pretty self explanatory

[tepid bobcat]

i don't talk about u, but some other person and I DON'T TALK ABOUT VEGETO PASSIVE, HIS PASSIVE IS EASY TO READ I JUST TAKE HIM FOR AN EXAMPLE OF EASY PASSIVE

[tepid bobcat]

you are

[gusty vigil]

Bro should have done this sooner

[formal mist]

Yup ion know what the fuck is going on

[nimble hound]

No im also talking about salter and sakura

[signal helm]

Cry about it, even if I was trying to ragebait you, you couldn't understand it

[wide lance]

calm i get what u are saying and i agree the passives should be somtimes worded better but i think there are ways around that

[tepid bobcat]

i know, i just use the vegeto's passive for an example of easy passive

[gusty vigil]

Definitely toddler level of rc

[signal helm]

He must be inebriated

Got to be

He's googling what that word means

[formal mist]

Ok who's passive isn't as easy to understand?

[gusty vigil]

Like Saber Alter will get damage when enemy or unit is in her range

[tepid bobcat]

so they are more difficult than vegeto, but we can understand a little but not completely

[signal helm]

That's what I'm trying to understand

[gusty vigil]

The aura slows enemy movements and unit attack rates

Pretty easy to understand

[signal helm]

Idk a single unit who is hard to understand based on their passives

[tepid bobcat]

THANKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[signal helm]

Aarth give us one unit who is hard to understand what they do

[rich yew]

rebel has a point
even if english is not your first English language, then how do you understand everything in an english game only? so if that's the case for you, understanding vegito's passives shouldn't be a problem either way i'm sure once he's officially released ot the public, there will be YouTubers who can break it down easier for those whose's main language isnt english

[signal helm]

Salter is not hard to understand at all

[gusty vigil]

I had one on vsjw, his 1st passive got me thinking why he isnt getting 30% damage when the mana is 0% lmao

[tepid bobcat]

for ME, when the salter upd was released, the salter's passive and the sokora's ability was not rly understable

[nimble hound]

Salter is extremely easy to understand

[signal helm]

He didn't mean vegito but yeah lmao

[nimble hound]

Sakura’s ability was pretty hard to understand but thats like the only passive in the game

[gusty vigil]

In my mind i thought he will get damage based on his missing mana but in reality he gets damage when he loses mana lmao, i understood just earlier

[signal helm]

Ehhhh I understood it fine, it's just adding damage every time you lose mana, not gaining damage proportionate to how much mana you dont have

[nimble hound]

Had a grade 2 student read salters passive and he understood is pretty well

[signal helm]

See what I'm saying

[tepid bobcat]

there is no Youtubers for my language and i'm not stupid, i understand all in the game but just some word i don't know what is it, and that can confuse me

[gusty vigil]

Yeah this is what i thought, i was abt to report it as a bug lol, good thing i noticed his damage got buffed when i turned on his arise until game end

[nimble hound]

Ok then learn boy

[signal helm]

From now on I can make an instructional video on what the units passives mean if that is really necessary

[signal helm]

🤣

[tepid bobcat]

so is the example, and if somebody who english is the first language don't understand, why they insult me because i don't understand too ? and ik is the only passive in the game, but i just said that because with the screen of Buu passive, maybe they will do it again

[signal helm]

You insulted you first, we just agreed with you

[nimble hound]

Yeah that it quite literally the only passive thats hard to understand and thats not even a wording issue

And not once did i insult you

[signal helm]

Which one?

[gusty vigil]

rename this thread as "make OTHER unit passive easier to understand like Vegito"

To avoid raged ppl

[signal helm]

Oh I definitely insulted him but he threw the first punch

[nimble hound]

The corruption ability, i was lowkey a bit confused when first reading it but its not even a wording issue

[signal helm]

Yeah they explained it best they could but it's just a weird mechanic in the first place

[tepid bobcat]

i'm learning, just when i talk with english guy i learn english, and when there is a word idk what is it i use google translate. so yeah put difficult word is good for learning english but is not good if we want to understand ( google translate don't give the word ideal in context )

[formal mist]

I mean to give u credit brought someone who doesent play av the read her passive and didn't understand because to understand salters passive u need to understand sakora also
Only passive he understood is Dark excalibur.

[signal helm]

Weird mechanics can't have good descriptions since yknow, they're weird anyway

[nimble hound]

Yeah but you are talking about 1 passive thats somewhat hard to understand on not on a reading level

[signal helm]

To be fair you should know sokora if you are going for salted

They are from the same activity

[gusty vigil]

I got confused to aizen 1st passive at first until someone told me it's just like Sakura's way of attacking, but based on how near enemies are to him

[signal helm]

And link to each other on the wiki

[tepid bobcat]

i don't talk about u, u never insult me but the majority of person here say i'm stupid

[signal helm]

My brother in Christ you said you were stupid first

Cant fault a man for agreeing

[tepid bobcat]

yeah ik it's one passive, but it's even good to say that

[gusty vigil]

Your suggestion title is stupid, ofc people will think it's about vegito's passive

[signal helm]

Yeah he fr needs to change the title to "Make passives easier to read for non English speakers"

[nimble hound]

Another example, having trouble understanding aizens passive wasint because of how it was worded but based on how you could comprehend it

[signal helm]

It might get more agree-ers that way

[tepid bobcat]

if u don't read what is write is not my fault

[signal helm]

The title is the reason why you have 6 down votes and 3 upvotes

[gusty vigil]

Experience it and you'll know it ahh passive wording

[upper crater]

"make your passives boring like any other td out there"

[signal helm]

That's how I understood it at first too

[gusty vigil]

"If you dont read what is written, it's not my fault" you mean? Did i get that right?

[formal mist]

Like what is he even arguing about cuz the English used in the passive is good tbh.
Only one he made some sort of a valid argument is salter but even in game u can piece it together to realize u need to know a lil bit abt sakora to understand salters passive

[signal helm]

I think he meant more: "if you can't comprehend my thoughts that I didn't write properly then that's not my fault"

[tepid bobcat]

so i did a mistakes ok but read all of why i write and after comment

[signal helm]

You can change them at any time dude

[upper crater]

after reading some comments i understand it better but theres still no reason reason for this

[gusty vigil]

Just rename the title and the description on why should they do it

[signal helm]

I agree with that, useless suggestion

They are alr super easy to read

[tepid bobcat]

oh that is just horrible, BRO READ ALL OF WHAT I SAID after this message i write " not to change passive but just to use simple word"

[upper crater]

just go to your language's designated channel and ask for a rundown

[tepid bobcat]

what u want i put ?

[signal helm]

... What I said before

[gusty vigil]

Poor English at its finest, i cant comprehend at all

[tepid bobcat]

Make easier passive ( not change passive but put easier word )

[formal mist]

I mean also the fact he can only name 1 unit who's passive isn't easy to read and made a whole suggestion is crazy

[signal helm]

I mean...

I guess that's easier to understand?

[tepid bobcat]

there is a lot of message i probably forgot or don't read

[upper crater]

just go to your language's designated channel and ask for a rundown or explanation

[signal helm]

Fr

People usually don't mind explaining how units work

[tepid bobcat]

there is not my language channel

[upper crater]

[tepid bobcat]

i just did that to make it easier, u seen the passive of buu ? they maybe will do same for him so i put that here

[gusty vigil]

Does bro understand Yamamoto passives? Just asking ✌️

[tepid bobcat]

yeah

[formal mist]

Nope but it's also not valid to assume they are gonna complicate buu's passive

[upper crater]

Passives are already pretty straightforward, theres not really any reason to change the wording except if it is confusing. There will always exist someone that cant understand it because its in english, theres nothing thst can be done about that really

[gusty vigil]

Now, tell me what you understand

Jk

[upper crater]

except if they made an official translation which i doubt they'd put that much effort into

and considering theres so many languages there still would be people who would complain

[tepid bobcat]

yeah ik but that probably will be that, buu is a complex unit and they said " cant wait for people to call all the update units mid again until they understand the passives"

[upper crater]

theres no real win here, you either understand english enough or you watch videos to understand the units

nothing that can be done about that

[tepid bobcat]

so that will be complex passive

[formal mist]

Valid point but I mean i don't know what pysephs "complex" means. But from that sentence.
Pyseph Is saying ppl are gonna misunderstand his passive and think he sucks

[tepid bobcat]

or they just do more simple passive ( with simple word) to be understandable

[upper crater]

yeah you didnt read any of what i said

[formal mist]

But I mean no point in arguing sth we don't know i guess we will wait for buu to come and see if this is still a valid argument

[tepid bobcat]

yeah Pyseph say that, and if they misunderstand that mean the passive is not rly easy to understand, even for english people

[tepid bobcat]

a just read your last message

[upper crater]

you made that obvious

[formal mist]

Wish u were here the time ppl were thinking vegeta was asd tbh.
I got a project i need to finish js think abt that time but for now I'm gone 🫡

[tepid bobcat]

ok but majority of this community are bad guy, they just don't read my suggestion and just ragebaiting

[upper crater]

😭

ragebaiting

most people here are genuinely just explaining to you its already simple

[tepid bobcat]

bro i play the game when the game released, and what is asd ?

[tepid bobcat]

but bye

[tepid bobcat]

with insult? good explain

[formal mist]

Ass* btw and can't respond after this needa lock in dawg

[tepid bobcat]

saying i'm dump will not helping me, they are just ragebaiting is just real

[upper crater]

who insulted you 😭

[upper crater]

well, calling someone dumb is indeed a bad thing but 😭 you just dont wanna acknowledge that you are making a big deal out of something so simple

[tepid bobcat]

ok bye and yeah i seen that when all ppl said vegeta is bad but after that he stay S tier for a long time, more long than sjw and all other unit ( except alucard )

[upper crater]

you either understand it or you dont

what are the devs gonna do

if someone that cant understand english AT ALL

complains too?

[tepid bobcat]

bro are u joking ? all ppl said i'm dumb stupid and all bad word

[upper barn]

this is more active than active chat or general atp

[upper crater]

ts more entertaining vro

[upper crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1238734357838037045/1336585403997884467/attachment.gif

[gusty vigil]

Many (including me) got rage baited cuz we thought it's about changing vegito's passive and make him stronger

[upper barn]

No mods in here

[tepid bobcat]

making a big deal ? i just said to use more simple word and it's a big deal ? Nah is just rly crazy

[upper crater]

you made a whole suggestion and the only unit you said was confusing was salter

(as far as i read the messages atleast)

I said this before and i'll say this again

they only change if its CONFUSING

[tepid bobcat]

how can i say that if i don't use suggestion ? and i said that because MAYBE buu will be same as salter

[tepid bobcat]

and even if it's just one unit, it could still be useful

[wooden snow]

I think it’s a bit wonky how sometimes they just throw in additional effects under the same name even though they don’t really correlate

[upper crater]

If you only had one unit in mind while making this you should have just named "make X unit's passives easier to understand"

[upper crater]

yup

[wooden snow]

Like does “attacks ignore dodge” occur after the 40 seconds

[upper crater]

i also feel like that with some characters

[wooden snow]

Maybe they should separate them like “attack effects” and “passives”

[tepid bobcat]

yeah it's true mb, but and i said even if it's just one unit, but here it maybe will be the case of buu

[upper crater]

Maybe 🤷 it will prob just be another case of people thinking hes bad just because they arent using him properly

like what happened with choi

[tepid bobcat]

yeah ik

and sokora for me

[upper crater]

sadly they cant make passives easier to understand just because some people cant understand them because of the language barrier, since there would still be the problem of people who cant speak english at all

[tepid bobcat]

but all ragebaiting ppl are gone, IS RLY GOODDDDD

[upper crater]

btw, roblox has an auto translation thing right? is it any good or nah

i expect its trash as most roblox features

[tepid bobcat]

person who don't talk english, we can just do nothing for us except translate but make passives easier to understand will help all person, maybe some english ppl who just don't understand, and some ppl who english isn't the first language so they will understand

[floral turret]

I think Vegito passives were like pretty clear

And straight forward

Idk how you can simplify it more

[tepid bobcat]

i used that when the game released but i change to english because it's rly trash, that don't translate all thing, for exempla for 3 passives, roblox translate 2/3. and i change it because when it translate, the game is so ugly

[floral turret]

But I agree some other passives need some rewording

[tepid bobcat]

i used that for an example of very easy passive

i say it again IT'S RLY COOL TO TALK WITH NO RAGEBAIT PPL

[tepid bobcat]

as most roblox features, but the most trash features is the censure in chat, that just horrible, i can't say discord but other ppl can say "ur mom"

[nimble hound]

examples?

[tepid bobcat]

that was rly cool to talk with u guys ❤️

but tbh, before some thing i don't understand in the game ( maybe 2 or 3 words in the game) but now i undertsand all, but maybe there is somebody they are like the me before

wow 7 guys said no

that will be better if i delete this suggestion