#Legend Stages SUCK!
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challanges exist
langes
Idk everyone talking about challenges not everybody got time to sit n run 40 challenges just to evo 1 unit
W idea
Wensky already made this point but yea not everyone has time for that and for those worried about challenges being useless how challenges work now they are basically worthless already and are in need of a revamp

alot of others simple ways of getting essence stones
yall deadass dont know what it was like
when we didn't had these type of QOF'sin av for essence stones
Ive played since day 1 so yea i do and its really not much better now once you finish boss rush and rift there arent many good ways to get stones
Where im at right now its basically 20-40 runs of a challenges or legend stage to get enough to evo a unit but if i want someone like Aizen i need to evo 3 units and then Aizen which takes hours i dont have of grinding just for the essence stones not including the evo items (which are easy to get but still)
And once you buy all the stones from boss rush? Neither that nor the awful gold shop give enough stones to be consistantly viable
so u have played since DAY ONE u think when u finish boss rush and rift there arent many good ways of getting stones?
boos rush resets every tuesday
better yet boss rush is resetting today
65 green stones
every tuesday
15 for the rest
u have 2x weekend
which just ended
u have dismantle
which is so peak
resets everyday
doesnt give much but comes in handy
joj raid shop
not much but its there
50 and 30 for the rest
which is alot since the others are the mainly the ones u are missing most of the time
literally this.
helped out so much
bro theres fucking 99
u can get
world lines
u said rift shop but that's 100 and 50
in there
like bro
legend stages arent rlly for green stones
that's why they never rlly buffed it
yes u can grind it on the side and get lil at time but having dismantle makes everything so much better
there's a reason why everyone said the fate update was their comback update
cuz that shit bought so much QOF NEEEDED for this game
u want legends to grind essence which is NOT what it is meant for
Daily challenge/Hourly Challenge are FOR essences
the legend stages are meant for unit evo materials
i hope u see what am saying
if u dont idk what else to tell u
this is clear as fucking day
40 challenges when u can get up to 6 in 1 run + gold + boss rush
There a lot of ways to get stones but most of what you listed aren't viable grinds especially for newer or more casual players
I've played since day 1 and have a current meta team and still can solo dungeons
Command seals grinding is slow
Love shop takes awhile to grind forg giselle and most people dont have time to do both grinds
World lines also takes a lot of time and after you've beaten it that's maybe 2 evo units maybe
Rifts are also not a grindable thing because they are too hard for most ppl to solo and only spawn once every 2 hours IF they don't bug out
Dismantling is good but not good enough
Raid is fine but only gives 25 and thats not enough to evo anything
You make good points but your only thinking from the perspective of someone who has the means and time to grind all of this
The way essence stones are now is just setup to artificially inflate playtime on an otherwise very well paced game
?
dosent help much
I dont think half of what you listed is affected by 2x weekend
ofc they are not the msg that are posted are points that are saying "ppl dont have time"
and even then your suggesting someone who plays casually or is new only evos maybe 2 units a week
then play weekend bro
liek its so good
thats not a solution its a cop out
Boss rush
Challenges
Event shops
Raid/Dungeon shops
Legend stages
Dismantling
Gold shop
wtf are u saying at this point
All those gives essense
read abouve where i list the problems with all of these
u clearly said if ppl dont have time literally do challenges at weekends
so ncie and simple
Can you reply to it pretty please

then u gonna tell me it dont rlly help
bro that how u grind essences...
like wtf
yes 2x weekend is good and helpful but not good enough to make up for the amount of grinding needed
its not even that big bro like what 😭
im not even suggesting more essence stones be given from other things
Im assuming its this message
just add maybe what 1 an hour to AFK chamber so ppl who dont have time to play as much can still evo things
yea
But what about boss rush?
amazing way but not new player viable
Depends on the boss rush, but yeah i can understand the concern
So practically you want a way for essense stones to be easily grind able for new players
?
I also agree if that is the case however
I do not think giving essense stones in the afk chamber is the solution
I know this isn’t wide spread information but a while back pyseph did respond to a gamemode suggestion which would help new players grind for essense stobes
have a friend who also played since day 1 who took a break when AA came back to give it a try
He plays ALOT with me and because he never "afk farmed" or anything he is level 40 and has 6 evo units in the entire time hes played
he has collage and a life so he sadly dosent have time to grind and evo all the new units so something small would be a great help for him
this was ment to reply to the other guy
There are alot of outlets to afk grind essense stones tho?
And if he has college and is getting busy in life i think its about time he drops atd games lol
Didnt they also suggest a new gamemode for gold?
Don’t ever remember seeing a dev respond to one
why should he have to drop atd games because hes busy? these arent supposed to be competitive for the most part its ment to be a casual grind
literally just do the daily, takes 5 minutes a day and you'll comfortably evo about 2 units a week
you simply shouldnt be able to afk your way to endgame, simple as
so 2 evo units a week is viable to you?
for literally zero effort? absolutely
What? do you expect to get #1 on leaderboards by... afking?
Yea good luck
Not gojng to speak on that(wtv ur friend and casual grinds) but there are still ways to afk grind essense stones
nobody is saying give out free monarch
the suggestion is make essence stones not take forever to get for new/casual players
it wouldnt affect leaderboards at all
Yeah but givibg them in the afk chamber?
like what?
Worded it poorly but my main point was that theres still ways ti afk grind essense stones from boss rush and legend stages
Updates usually have about 8-12 characters or whatever, so yes with just dailies you can evolve them each before the new update
8-12 at 2 a week takes a month to a month and a half
even if updates are monthly that requires you to play daily and still makes it difficult for newer players to be able to grind initially or catch up if their like me and want to collect a lot of characters for team building
It all boils down to "just make it free" you're getting nowhere man
there is no mechanic to afk either thing
the only way i know is leeching
never said that
are gems "free" because you can afk them? why dosent everyone have alucard then?
Then just make a new gamemode for getting essence stones, that is accessible for new players etc
im not against that but my suggestion is designed to be simpler
Not an official mechanic but macaroni and leeching are 2 ways
Hah, that assumes I think the AFK Chamber is okay, but guess what I think that whole mechanic is cancer in the first place
The ONLY reason it was added is so roblox devs can get premium payouts, not for the good of the player
side note
I need a modern day macaroni for essence stones you know where i can get one?
Check dms
You think your a good player because you have more time then others?
funfact leaderboards are surprisingly skill based so even if you had every unit in the game if you didnt know how to use them properly or make a good team you would still lose
if you're still grinding legend stages for essence stones then you got a problem to deal with,
like we have so many shops that now offers them
nobody is doing lb runs
it's going get wiped
@versed quest
u can leech winter portals
that's something noobs can do
get those presents
open them for stones etc
not a built in option and relys heavily on others
?
wdym rely heavily
scaling doesnt increase
with others in game
Presents are good
You still have to leech aka something you cant do alone
I get leeching culture is differint in this game compared to many others but its still not a viable solution
that's it
you dont gotta place shit down 😭 🙏
okay, either way what about rift shop?
you can leech in those
any solution reliant on others is viable
already explained why
boss rush etc
Yes i know its possible but requiring others to be able to play the game for you isnt viable
it is tho
that's why they want leechers
so they can get the mvp rewards
yea i get leeching works and its actually a good solution but its not designed into the game to be a mechanic its more an awkward work around
and the christmas event will be leaving soon (probably)
making it no longer viable long term
dued
why the fuck is everyones solution adding it to afk chamber
instead of suggestion a way to improve the grind
because not everyone has time to grind but im not opposed to a better faster grind
i mean how much is not much time to grind
cause boss raids give you so much
and its much more efficent than legend stages
boss raids are good for experienced players but not for new players
saber is the only one that isnt good for new players
the first 2 are quite easy
but Saber is whats available right now
saber is also do able btw it just requires more thinking than the other
I can solo saber easily but im trying to imagine someone who just started and has maybe 2 evo units doing it
not all content needs to be doable for very new players
some content will always require more playtime
not the point
the point is most available ways to get essence stones require experienced players and are not new player friendly
im not advocating for making boss raids or dungeons easier
if ur saying u dont have time to play the game then why are u expecting essence on a silver platter??
holy greediness, isn’t it enough with 2x challenge drop on weekends
or are you really expecting to get all the meta evo units just from being afk
I have time to AFK and id rather not macoroni
is the afk chamber handing mythic units on a silver platter? if not then why is like 10 essence stones a night a problem?
I have meta evo units i want to be able to evo non metas mostly for collection
and a few essence stones a night wont have me waking up top of the leaderboard
also even 2x drops from challenegs would still take like 20 runs to evo a unit
Why are people assuming not having essence stones is what is stopping people from having top meta? thats just stupid
its traits, banners, secret luck and a hundred other factors
(this isnt targeted im just getting annoyed by the same argument)
back to my point, u can’t expect to get everything from afk, gems and presents/event currency is already pretty generous
and any mid-end game player should be having max essence stones every time, just by playing boss rush, buying every day from gold shop and opening giftboxes
its not a problem its that adding solutions like this is why games are dying
I admit the event currency is too much
the gems arent very generous its only a few 10 pulls for an entire night of sleeping
I have completed boss rush and almost every other way to get essence stones so id rather not mindlessly grind legend stages or challenges just to evo some mid units
why add an afk option to instead farm something in a better more enjoyable
I wouldnt mind a gamemode dedicated to essence stones or a significant buff to challenges
Star fruits have always been easily gotten in AA so ik making 10 green essence stones a night from afk isnt gonna kill the game
were not talking about me waking up with 200+ stones
im legit thinking 1 an hour or less
i have pretty much all the collection completed, and i have NEVER played legend stages for essence stones. There plenty of viable, easier and faster ways to get them. I can’t really see how ppl struggle with them, if you’re early game player I might understand it but you can always join someone else boss rush, you can always join others’ portals for giftboxes (10 green essences), and the list could go on
also u can dismantle rainbow essence, bc most evos only require 1-3 rainbow essence, and etc
if you never played legend stages for essence stones you didnt play early updates much
ive explained before Viable does not equal accessible and most methods your talking about require experienced players
forcing someone to join others isnt a solution its a work around for a bad system
Portals have at most a 30% chance of dropping a gift which can drop essence stones
rainbow essence stones cost 7k gold to dismantle often leaving new players without enough money to afford an evo just to maybe get some of the stones they need
afking isnt playin? and it gives like 40k presents per night lol
Ive already stated i think they give too many presents
and when did i say it was playing?
only reason why im broke rn is because aizen is a needy boy
same
your acting like you should be able to get everything u need from afk chamber
realistically you probbaly need to farm legend stages 3 times until you are able to access boss rush it does not need any changes
Im acting like 10 essence stones from afk chamber helps people who have a life
adn by access i mean beat
the saber boss rush is too difficult for newer players to grind solo
average amount of units per update is about 6ish, 30 per unit, so 180 stones. thats about 16ish days of buying out the green stone shop
and for gold ones just do daily
40+ per a unit
aight where do you get the gold?
in those 2 weeks what if they do a 0.5 update?
why is this a better solution then giving scraps to new players?
boss rush shop or dungeon shop, saber boss rush shop gives 500k
damn its almost like its been said multiple times new players cant do those easily
oooor since u love the afk chamber just afk for gems and summon to get gold
it isnt i just said you would only need to farm 3 units evo's to actually solo saber boss rush
you dont get enough gems for that to be viable
new players dont need secrets
new players need evo units
"lf carries"
bro ive already said leeching is a work around for a bad system
not a solution
depends on the units they evo
you def do
and even then thats alot of time spent on trying to evo 3 units just so you can evo 2 more
also gtg
you def do not
8+ hours with VIP i wake up with maybe 5k which is enough for just over ten 10 pulls
not garenteed a mythic and other units dont sell for much
not relevant
vip and premioum dont do anything
all players get the full benefit
im telling you
all players
ge tthe full benefit
ffs
your not suppose to even be getting 450x xp
presents*
that is the max
either way your suggestion is terrible
even suggesting to increase the amount legend stages minium green essence amount is
To those who cant read who plan to comment
The purposed idea is 1 essence stone or less an hour
This idea is for new or casual players who dont want to grind as much
This isnt about the AFK chamber needing a nerf
is a better suggestion
my suggestion is literally a bare minimum idea to help new players
and i will keep preaching
im sorry i suggested giving people with jobs and lives 8 free essence stones
a game should never incentivise afking to get resources
afk chamber exsist
thats the worst possible soluton
you do know alot of ppl macaroni for essence stones right?
how does this change the fact that your suggestion is bad because it promotes afking even more?
your legit just punishing people without time and incentivizing less legitimate or regulated ways of afking
instead of suggestion a idea that promotes actually playing the game
also then why are you even here? denying this suggestion dosent remove afk chamber and thats just a stupid belief to hold over a video game
the literal
entire fucking point
is that people (maybe not you)
have lives to live outside of the game
so why would i make a suggestion for people without the time to farm... to farm
mf then deadass
dont play a game
if you dont have time to play the gmae
i mean the entire fucking point of these games
is to grind
and get better to beat the harder stages
thats like playing warframe
and saying
this dosent remove the grind
"omg add a afk chamber because i dont have time to play the game"
it takes the unfun unnecessary part out
if you find the grind unfun and unnecessary just play a regular td game atp
cause the entire point of the game is gridning for better units and then using them to beat harder stages
I enjoy grinding for secrets
I enjoy grinding raids
I dont enjoy grinding essence stones and idk anyone who does
it literally just inflates game time and waste your time
that grind can include
secrets, gems, trait rerolls, stat rerolls and more
there is 0 reason for it to include all of those then a longer more annoying grind to get the item to make the item to evo your unit
the fact that you added stats here but dont like evolution is genuinely isane to me
because grinding for stats is more fun and rewarding then grinding essence stones
it is literally the worse part of this game and adds almost nothing
my suggestion isnt even to remove it tho. I just want to make it microscopically less time consuming
grinding the material that makes you unit leagues better and unlocks new passives for it is somehow less fun than grinding the rng stat rolls that only provide numerical buffs?
yeah aight bro
stats add NOTHING but being exactly what you described evoing as LMAO
mindless grinding for something just to make a unit remotely viable is far more boring then trying to minmax your unit
yes
please stop talking here because you cant read and its giving me a headache
stats allow customization same with traits
it makes your unit differin then the basic unit
u sayin get em from chamber? yeah nah this aint sols
afk chamber is already a stupid addition
what customization??
premium payout farm
not the topic
and i already adressed your points you have made again and again clearly not listening
??? afk chamber is the topic
your stats are something that sets your unit apart
its a form of customization same with traits and the pets i forgot the name of
no an addition to the afk chamber is
not the chamber itself
familiars and traits are not even close to the same as stats
going off topic then telling others for going off topic
yes they are in this context
look up the term "customization"
no my main complaint is youve brought this up about 3 times
and you clearly arent reading what i have to say so your just speaking to speak
wait rq do u want green stones, legendary stones or rainbow stones added?
green
wtf is legendary stones
colored
also the suggestion is basically a pointless addition
the coloured ones
8 GREEN stones an hour?
it changes literally nothing
sorry
8 green storys every 8 hours*
stones*
holy why cant i speak
😭 WHAT?!? 2 an hour would be balanced but 8?!?! thats like almost full inventory overnight god people hate playing games!!!
its 1 an hour
he wanted 1 an hour
oh
i typed it wrong
that just
with 8 green stones an hour if you only afk you can eveo a 40 green stone requirment unit in 5 days (not counting the colored stones)
its to minorly lighten the load
its not ment to be a major thing just a minor assistance to people without a lot of time
not 5 days, 5 hours bro 😭
i ment 1 an hour 8 a night
reading comprehension is more important than the words said
saw this
you sleep 8 hours you get 8 stones
lets say you sleep 8 hours and work 8 hours thats 16 stones when you get home
that half the green requirment for an evo
not overpowered but enough to be helpful and lighten the grind a little
so the suggestion
is to add something to help new players
who are
"employed"
get evoed units
so why not add a quest that actually requires playing the game that helps newer players get their first few evoed units so that they can access the content that give essence stone rewards
actually a quest that gives like 200 green essence stones for completing the tutorial or something isnt a bad idea
200 seems like alot but if you account for the colored they have to make its maybe 3 evos
which is what you said was needed to beat the saber raid and grind more
I have played since release, when the only way was challenges and ls -- I have always made my way through challenges and only evolved the necessary units, now that there is A LOT more ways to get essence stones I have completed my collection. Giving a rough estimation, I'm sure you can make 25 colored essence stones (of each color) and 75 green essences EVERY WEEK. (as a casual player ofc, if you try hard it doing winter portals all day you can max it out easily)
About "forcing others to join", do you realize tower defense games are meant to be cooperative games? So that's really not an excuse, I personally always look forward to play with others because its simply more fun.
About the giftboxes, 30% is a lot and giftboxes most times will drop green essences, which of course it's not guaranteed but it provides a solid way to get them while grinding for other stuff. I legit have +40 unopened giftboxes because I have max of every essence (and I dont even grind winter portals at all, I just join to help other randoms in the lobby/friends.)
About gold, it's the same, boss rush is the solution. 500k gold from Salter boss rush, and 100k for Igris and Sukuna boss rush its more than enough for most things.
yhwach can solo it
which the average noobs can farm for
Im tired of having this conversation how do i delete a suggestion
you don't
wait till you get the suggestion blacklist role
then you won't ever create another one like this
why would i be blacklisted for a fine suggestion?
it would fit in too low quality and poorly elaborated
the idea was perfctly elaborated on and ive discussed it in over 300 messages
im just tired of dealing with people who cant read and dont even want to dicuss the premise
and the suggestion wasnt "low quality"
and what happens if you're wrong?
and you're on the list to get the role
then i get in trouble for following every rule perfectly because someone got pissy that i made a suggestion they didnt agree with
but nobody here is on your side
some people have been
and what does that matter?
just because people disagree with something dosent mean its an offense to the rules
we all can agree you just want to promote afking even more because you're too lazy to grind throughout your way
which is against the suggestion rules, no?
poster does not deserve suggestion blacklist
firstly no its not im suggesting an addition to the afk chamber
although most of us don't agree with his post its not like his intentions for the suggestion were bad
🤷🏻
thank you my guy
also the suggestion was for newer players
i just grind saber boss raid
are you active in the server?
im guessing not since ur rust role
I took a break for like a month but ive been active since
most people ignore 1970 since he is famous for having some really bad takes
and how he has a pissy attidude and stuff
so its best not to interact with him to much
you won't
he just says that to everyone who he doesint agree with lol
is there a way to delete this suggestion? im tired of these conversations
close post?
or do i just mute it and go on with my life?
pov: you start to lose an argument
I never was losing i specifically got tired of people like you who cant read
i didnt read the entire suggestion chat, no, but thats because it should all be up the top rather than 2 or 3 sentences
it was all at the top
you instead argued that afk chamber shouldnt exsist
anyways I cant delete this so im done
like talkin to a brick wall
god
you just cant grind
expect everything to be handed to you
you refuse to listen
i can quite well
and you refuse to stfu
you cant organise your suggestion
its like im banging my head into a goddamn wall
the wall is trying to tell you that new players dont need essence stones much because once they get saber or smth they wont need a new unit for a while
ur acting like new players wanna 100% the game
they dont
its almost like i said im done having this convo with you
if ur done why do u keep responding?
because i keep getting pings and i want to delete the suggestion but cant for some stupid reason
umm mute post? unfollow post? block user if your really weird
ngl i think ur just too lazy to grind 💤
dis aint about new players
stop talkin about readin i cant cos ya deleted the message you dum dum
cant read what isnt there
I didnt delete the 100 times i explained this shit to you
keep talkin about tat u explained it but never
actually did
your skull thick or ur brain small?
i did again and again and again
false
explain again if you wish
still havent explained it 🤫
compare your own iq before others :)
read up
read what ya deleted the suggestion
god
idiot bro
keep sayin i dont read the suggestion that you deleted
blocked 🕊️
wow ur weird 🤣
tldr
you want the thing
but too lazy
so u make suggestion
wanting it to be easier

🤣
i may or may not have ragebaited him into it, but also his argument was they are too hard for new players but most dailies have bosses with 3k hp 😭 roku dark solos
Whoever made the original post, I agree
nah it wasnt even about that, he wanted essence stones in afk chamber. title was clickbait
lazy bum
Idrc about that i just think they are content that is simply boring and unnecessary
legend stage are so fun are you grazy