#Illya needs balance changes desperately.

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cloud grove
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HEY

median nacelle
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lila is better than sjw for wl

cloud grove
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maybe because

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Lila is a

median nacelle
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being able to put where ur berseker is a good feature

cloud grove
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MYTHIC

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and SJW is a

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VANGUARDDDD

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don't know why this is a suggestion

median nacelle
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and is jealous

cloud grove
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should think before posting man

junior umbra
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i dont

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LOL

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😭

junior umbra
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aizens better then diavolo for everything and hes not a vanguard

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🤔

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literally aizen is a secret but hes the strongest dps unit

junior umbra
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i dont see it ngl

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i do have deadeye sjw for infinites though

median nacelle
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yhwach has more dps than aizen

junior umbra
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no lol

median nacelle
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yes..?

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read his passives

junior umbra
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per placement?

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1 placement yhwach with 1 placement aizen

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u wont even get near the dps

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80% of his atk is being dealt /s

junior umbra
median nacelle
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aizen's dps requires enemies within his range
that won't be the case in most sitatuions...
yhwach only needs more than one enemy within his range to be doing his aura's dps...

junior umbra
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😭

junior umbra
median nacelle
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  • giselle buffs yhwach
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  • giselle's zombies also buff yhwach
junior umbra
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with 50 units

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lol

median nacelle
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no..?

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that's not true

junior umbra
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yes

median nacelle
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LMAO

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okay nvm

junior umbra
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show me the layout

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rq

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thats what i thought

median nacelle
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glaze aizen all u want but the facts r there

junior umbra
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thats what i thought

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hush it up pack it up go back to ur cave

junior umbra
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he just does his normal dps

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it isnt 2x'd

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idk why ur coping so hard with midwach lol

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anyway

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time to repost ts cause this bum made me flood it

median nacelle
junior umbra
median nacelle
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he still has more dps..?

junior umbra
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yw

median nacelle
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regardless of 10% crit or not

junior umbra
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gng

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go test it rn

median nacelle
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sora + giselle

junior umbra
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and send me a vid plz

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😭

median nacelle
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test what?

junior umbra
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his dmg

median nacelle
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that clip already disproves it

junior umbra
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its a crit

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no shit its doing more

median nacelle
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nvm ur trolling g

junior umbra
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for sure

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get disproven -> say its ragebait/troll

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low iq gambit

median nacelle
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can't believe you still think Aizen has more dps when its unstable as it's only for about 15s even then you still need the minimum enemies to even reach the max cap (80%)

junior umbra
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ill mog ts rq

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yhwach users when no 5 units to sacrifice

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median nacelle
last arch
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So what was wrong with ilya?

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I thought she was fine

junior umbra
median nacelle
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monarch lila is op for wl

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better than sjw

junior umbra
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are YOU trolling

median nacelle
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monarch sjw is trash for wl

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deadeye is better

last arch
median nacelle
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for wl

junior umbra
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oh its miso from the frieren thread 😭

last arch
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Since she gets boosted + monarch

last arch
junior umbra
last arch
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I mean if you are talking overall

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Monarch ilya is worse then deadeye sjw

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I can’t deny that

junior umbra
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monarch lilia upg 4

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deadeye sjw upg 3

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if u 3x the dmg its literally even worse because its deadeye

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if u had monarch it'd be like 130k

median nacelle
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difference is u need mana to summon bear

junior umbra
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and u can spam them

last arch
junior umbra
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no downtime

median nacelle
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with lila its just cd

junior umbra
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im not an idiot miso u know that well

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😭

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1:1 cost

last arch
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Hmmm

junior umbra
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both placeable in tsukuyomi

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except 1 cannot be debuffed

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ever

last arch
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Its just that the major thing is ilya gets boosted in tsukuyomi

junior umbra
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and has a nuke

last arch
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Whole sjw doesn’t

junior umbra
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it wont be as good as monarch sjw

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unbuffed

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and usually it isnt even 100% its like 50-70

last arch
junior umbra
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that 59k would be approximately 100k at a 70% buff

last arch
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Well I don’t think the devs would balance ilya so she would be on par with sjw in any situation

junior umbra
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which would still be less then 120k from sjw bear

junior umbra
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nukes beru and steel

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would still make him better

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just giving illya like berserker off spawn

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would already make her reasonably strong

last arch
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What was your proposition for ilyav

last arch
junior umbra
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sjw has offspawn summons why not illya

last arch
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I mean yeah

junior umbra
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

last arch
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She should in all honesty

junior umbra
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it still scales with her atk so

last arch
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Thats like her gimmick in the anime

junior umbra
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yeah shes weak without him

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like horriblky

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im just saying that vanguards shouldnt make other units obsolete

last arch
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Pre sure

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Unless it makes other secrets + vanguards obselete

junior umbra
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the thing is

last arch
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Then its a problem

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But they don’t give 2 shits about mythics

junior umbra
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i mean maybe

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but compare them to other mythics

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like even ichigo

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got a ability off spawn

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because people thought he was bad

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and hes a mythic

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so why not illya too

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she has one of my favorite shinys (which i dont have 👲 )

last arch
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I would say shes above average

junior umbra
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like objectively

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more outclassed

valid fulcrum
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She was ought to be outclassed at some point,they can't buff her for that reason.

junior umbra