Can we do something with Igris??

[coarse thicket]

its literally called image based

[obsidian mantle]

Manega

Maneha

[gaunt otter]

That should’ve been the shiny

[coarse thicket]

manhwa 🤓 actually

[ember girder]

Isnt it like the reason why inf was banned tho

[obsidian mantle]

No

[gaunt otter]

No shot they make another sjw evo

[obsidian mantle]

He got banned cuz he eas the creator

[mellow ginkgo]

ah damn ok mb

[obsidian mantle]

Of the product

[round haven]

the person inf was banned
not anything else

[simple crag]

what did you just callme

[obsidian mantle]

Which is against the tod

Ros

Tos

[simple crag]

he was distrubuting it

and made it paid

[round haven]

also making it in general is not allowed

[obsidian mantle]

It is

Not stated in the tos

[round haven]

its against roblox tos

[obsidian mantle]

To
Make it? No

T
Make it paid? Yes

[coarse thicket]

im pretty sure all are against tos arent they

[simple crag]

yes

[ember girder]

Botting is against Roblox tos period

Mangos are botting

Cause its not a real player

[gaunt otter]

What

[coarse thicket]

im not sure if tt is against tos

maybe tho

[ember girder]

Is less punishable

Cause it cant be replicated on a high scale

And is also harder to detect

[gaunt otter]

Mango and botting is very different

[obsidian mantle]

@round haven can you play this game on movile😤?

[coarse thicket]

thats why id never risk anything else

[obsidian mantle]

Need to do my bounty

[ember girder]

Botting is anything thats not human based input

[round haven]

what

[ember girder]

Deadass i just farm everything manually

[gaunt otter]

Is mini task botting

[ember girder]

Its so painful

[mellow ginkgo]

LMFAO A SUGGESTION BEING A GEN CHAT IS STILL FUNNY TO ME

[coarse thicket]

same
i tried to set one up for salter but it just didnt work

[gaunt otter]

Cuz of chat cd

[obsidian mantle]

Mobile

[gaunt otter]

And verified ppl

[obsidian mantle]

Can u play it

[ember girder]

Yes but less detectable and not as big of a deal

[coarse thicket]

everyone did igris tho lets be real

[round haven]

i can

[ember girder]

I actually havent Even gotten him lmao

I did 183 runs for yama tho

[simple crag]

i did it manually

[ember girder]

All manual

[simple crag]

and it took

AGES

[ember girder]

No a single yama

[gaunt otter]

I got 2 Yama in 50

[coarse thicket]

it took me like 320 with tt

[mellow ginkgo]

rip to ur suggestion tho😭 im not surprised if this suggestion gets deleted or locked

[simple crag]

i had like 200 on the legend stage

and over 100 boss rushes

[gaunt otter]

Na it should be fine

[coarse thicket]

im not even gonna bother with yama
doesnt seem worth it when ive got plenty meta

[gaunt otter]

Devs r prob ignoring it on purpose

[frigid fulcrum]

over 5000 comments? What happened man

[ember girder]

Hes like only really usable with monarch

[coarse thicket]

id only get him if hes tournament meta

[ember girder]

We love minute cd chats

[simple crag]

same im not farming it

[coarse thicket]

suggestions are clear of general

[simple crag]

legend stages are boring and dont motivate me enough to farm it

[mellow ginkgo]

yeah but could've been a nice suggestion

[ember girder]

I wish they just did it like als

[gaunt otter]

😪 😪

[obsidian mantle]

Yama is mid atm

[ember girder]

Get a charm get higher chances

[gaunt otter]

Would’ve been good building blocks for future duo units too

[coarse thicket]

they very rarely reply to suggestions

[obsidian mantle]

His summons doesn’t even work properly

[mellow ginkgo]

im only farming him cus i need the essence and the food xp LOL

[round haven]

dungeon? or sum else

[simple crag]

farming food in the big 25

jut use exclusive units

[coarse thicket]

cant now

need them for sjw 😭

[mellow ginkgo]

nah i use them to reroll stats

[simple crag]

i have 65 unevoed mythics

[coarse thicket]

i sold all mine bc i ran out space
and i had no gold so couldnt even buy more

[mellow ginkgo]

that as well lmfao who knows what double evo units would they add next that req stuff likd this

[gaunt otter]

I keep running out of space

I have like 120 💔

[coarse thicket]

nah they wouldnt do 30
at least not for a while

[frigid fulcrum]

Yo tester role already? Congrats bro fr

[ember girder]

3 evolved almighty units btw

[round haven]

thanks

[mellow ginkgo]

maybe 5 or 10 for others that probably go from mythic to secret

[mellow ginkgo]

didnt u always have that role or am i tripping

[coarse thicket]

go back to the old colour 💔
i miss it

[ember girder]

I just want the igris boss rush already

I'm NOT farming Legends stage

[round haven]

i became real tester yesterday

i was trainee before

[mellow ginkgo]

Oh you there's a trainee phase? i thought u js had to apply and wait to br accept lmfao

[simple crag]

question helper -> trainee -> tester

[round haven]

trainee is basically just sort through all the repeat stuff in bug reports to make it easier to find stuff

[frigid fulcrum]

Ye he is going crazy

[ember girder]

Is like a Pokémon evolution line

[simple crag]

conflicted between rolling on jinwoo or gogeta

[frigid fulcrum]

Lol

[ember girder]

I feel like you get more value out of any mythic trait on jin over gogeta

Like gogeta is mid with anything that isnt monarch

[round haven]

yea
gogeta kinda needs monarch sjw doesnt

[simple crag]

true

id lowk shed a tear if i get etheral on gogeta

[frigid fulcrum]

I'd say that's hot take

[round haven]

sjw being 3 placement makes him so good, tierlist is going to have quite a few big changes

[narrow monolith]

REALLL

[simple crag]

he has decent damage

[ember girder]

I mean compared to most units with eth or other traits he's not up there

[narrow monolith]

gotten is 4 times btw

[gaunt otter]

Gogeta solos

[mellow ginkgo]

yeah but i heavily fw with gogetas prof background

[frigid fulcrum]

I mean yea he only has good ability and good damage

[ember girder]

Like ethereal yhwach will cook you dinner make your bath

[narrow monolith]

sjw is honestly gud with deadeye

[mellow ginkgo]

is he?

i just rolled my deadeye sung obviously aiming for monarch

[round haven]

he is
but for stuff like worldlines (all i care about) monarch way better

[ember girder]

I mean yeeaaaah but the cost and like compared to most other units with same traits is like

[narrow monolith]

Nah the passive arise stuff r op af

[frigid fulcrum]

Yea ig

[coarse thicket]

deadeye is better for lb really

[round haven]

i was talking about aizen lol

[simple crag]

i wouldve tried for wordliners lb but you need so many diff monarchs to get to the top its crazy

[narrow monolith]

oh mb

[mellow ginkgo]

ah ok nvm then i dont really care for lb runs

[ember girder]

The cost of shiny frieren

[gaunt otter]

Top leaderboard gives shiny esdeath but not her evo item rn😭

[narrow monolith]

deadeye is better on jinwu tbh with beru familiar

[mellow ginkgo]

ah aizen haven't seen his rate up since forever (5 days ago)

[narrow monolith]

lmaoooooo

[round haven]

they get to stare at her unevo
its peak

[narrow monolith]

😭

[round haven]

tbh gogeta and sjw is prob all you need now
before it was gogeta and a good unbound

[ember girder]

They just gotta add a crafting bank for all evo ítems

[frigid fulcrum]

I didn't tried it but I think saber monarch and aizen monarch is enough

[mellow ginkgo]

esdeath act op for monarch like 48k placement is crazy

[simple crag]

any of this good?

[round haven]

10 21 is pretty good

[narrow monolith]

ayooo

[round haven]

rest are easy af to beat

[narrow monolith]

thats weak

the lowest is 10 14 smthin

[ember girder]

Ye

[mellow ginkgo]

halal piccolo😭

[gaunt otter]

Give me team for it rn

[round haven]

i need to do a good boss event run so i dont get sniped

[round haven]

worldlines? or what

[gaunt otter]

Boss rush

[ember girder]

Saber carry

[round haven]

i ran sjw aizen saber subaru both farms
shit prob wasnt best team but 10:25 with bad timing

[sand vector]

please be sukuna double evo not gojo because i have monarch sukuna

[round haven]

sjw destroys boss with steel and has nuke for mobs

[gaunt otter]

Yeah I’m fried

No Subaru

[round haven]

no subaru can prob still work

[gaunt otter]

Im js gonna wait for upd 5 for trading maybe

[round haven]

sjw most important one

[mellow ginkgo]

ill just wait out my saber lol i still want monarch on vang sjw and yhwach and i have none of both

[simple crag]

thats a instant no ig

[round haven]

with saber boss being double bugged rn good luck beating without sjw

[ember girder]

Yeah i'm not even botherin with saber boss rush

[gaunt otter]

Unironically I have sjw evo but no Aizen

[narrow monolith]

aizen,saber,sakura,isdeath,both farms

[ember girder]

Did you bug

[narrow monolith]

u can get 10 14 with gud timing

[round haven]

prob not needed
he doesnt do that much tbh

[mellow ginkgo]

vanguard or mythic?

[round haven]

vanguard

[narrow monolith]

wdymm aizen carries

[round haven]

wall no work ):

[narrow monolith]

yea but the dps

[ember girder]

Okay but Okarun

[narrow monolith]

use isdeath to freeze the boss

[round haven]

you can freeze the boss?

[narrow monolith]

yea?

[ember girder]

Saber nullifies cc

[round haven]

oh i thought all cc was broken on her

[gaunt otter]

What does esdeath support do besides freeze

[round haven]

freeze and timestop freeze

[ember girder]

40K

[round haven]

should be dmg buff during ability but boken rn

[mellow ginkgo]

can we not use the word aizen rn im tweakin out its nearly been a week without a rate up 💔

[frigid fulcrum]

She timestops

[gaunt otter]

Dmg buff to Allie’s or her

[round haven]

allies during ability

[ember girder]

Mine got bugged and i got a free completed chair

[gaunt otter]

Bruh they need to fix it

[frigid fulcrum]

Bro

I wish I was there when that bug was there

[round haven]

i got a free chair but i already got aizen😭

[simple crag]

i have 2 chairs 1 was half completed cause of the bug and the other was completely free cause of the bug

[nimble flare]

AV not listening to this suggestion rip

[frigid fulcrum]

AV has some amazing bugs ngl lol

[gaunt otter]

Js wait

[mellow ginkgo]

gives the affection mark to allies and if esdeath and the marked ally hit the same target then the ally marked with affection would do 50% more dmg to the enemy they're hitting

forgot abt the active ability i just know she buffs allies ny 100% or i could be wrong

[narrow monolith]

lmaoooo sam

[gaunt otter]

We have created our own community

[ember girder]

At the very least theyre very funny

[round haven]

❌

[frigid fulcrum]

Yea

[ember girder]

Well make our own av

[nimble flare]

i doubt theyll add anything for igris,

[round haven]

ally marked with affection doesnt do 50% more
esdeath does

[mellow ginkgo]

what

[mellow ginkgo]

ah i see

[gaunt otter]

Read the suggestion

[ember girder]

Dont they gain a buff if theyre passion

[round haven]

she buffs allies only during mahokarada

[round haven]

or water or marked with affection

[nimble flare]

what about it

[gaunt otter]

Not add anything to igris

Just adress the issue with traits

[nimble flare]

i have monarch igris but ngl i dont see why they'd do it, would be amazing and im sure alot of people would love it but, not sure if they would make it so that igris evovles too

ngl it makes sense if

igris also can evolve

but uh

idk i feel like theyre convinced and wont change

[ember girder]

They can just make evo sjw buff igris

[nimble flare]

but it does make sense too if either one can evolve into the same vanguard unit

[frigid fulcrum]

What this suggestion is even about on? I ain't gonna scroll it

[nimble flare]

igros should evolve into the vanguard too

[gaunt otter]

Point was

[ember girder]

Do smth with igris

[gaunt otter]

Best trait carries over to double evo

[harsh drum]

they are crying about their igris not transferring monarch onto the new vanguard

[nimble flare]

crying is crazy

[gaunt otter]

Or create a system to choose which trait carries

[frigid fulcrum]

Vanguard igris interesting

[mellow ginkgo]

ah mb i thought by tower i thought it meant the ally marked w affection

[gaunt otter]

It’s just a broke bum projecting ignore him

[nimble flare]

im just mad im stuck with these 3 for a few more updates smh smh

im so bored of them

[gaunt otter]

Like to add future systems to duo units

[nimble flare]

theyve been with me for the past 6 months or so

[simple crag]

Same here twin except ishtar instead of tengen

[nimble flare]

im so done with placing down the same 3 units 😭

[gaunt otter]

So if the unit u were evoking didn’t have the good trait but the one u sacrificed did

[ember girder]

I find it hilarious how the 2 posts high up are one with almost 6K comments and one with a single one

[mellow ginkgo]

full aoe and immune to stuns monarch bruh why r u complaining 😭

[frigid fulcrum]

Hm good idea

But my boy igris didn't get his evo?

That's crime

[gaunt otter]

He doesn’t need another evo lol

[nimble flare]

Im complaining about that at some poinmt you get bored and want something new yknow, would have been nice if igris could go up to another rarity

[mellow ginkgo]

act nevermind it kinda gets boring when i rely too much on my monarchs

[nimble flare]

also his range is dookie butt

[harsh drum]

this guy has over 15+ hours in this one thread so id say its warranted

[ember girder]

They couldve of Made it so it was a evolved igris or an ascended evolved sjw

For the sacrifice

[gaunt otter]

Projecting

[nimble flare]

fair, i just came on so no clue

saw 5k messages

[candid heath]

Is deadeye better than monarch on sjw

[mellow ginkgo]

same at the time they didn't add the feature where you get one stat above afyer you evo the unit

[gaunt otter]

It’s just use as a general

Since other channels have cds

[ember girder]

WHAT IS THIS TRAAAAAAAAAAASH BANNER

[mellow ginkgo]

ah im guessing there's no aizen

[ember girder]

I already have Aizen

I highkey want oryo

[mellow ginkgo]

i stayed up this late for no reason at all 😭🙏

[simple crag]

saber still hass buffed hp even with A.W.E dead

[ember girder]

You can mango igris stage ez with oryo

[mellow ginkgo]

i got double oryo in one 10 pull then i found out he was shit

i kinda thought his passive was good

[round haven]

yup known
also immune to cc and no unit is immune to her debuffs

[ember girder]

Thats hilarious

[ember girder]

I actually think hes really god for mangoing

[frigid fulcrum]

The who dislikes suggestion are igris haters lol

[ember girder]

Like just plop into a spot a oryo

[mellow ginkgo]

wait ur onto something

[ember girder]

And you dont need to bother with stage mechanics

[gaunt otter]

Or just ppl who are broke

And r projecting their sadness into others

[ember girder]

Haters everywhere

[mellow ginkgo]

yeah except yamamotos leg stage lmfao

[ember girder]

I'm sure a monarch oryo could solo

I believe in em

[mellow ginkgo]

act nvm just use luce

[ember girder]

Yeah

Yhwach is what like 500K

[mellow ginkgo]

i was thinking of feeding oryo to aizen lmfao

i can alr max ascend him its crazy

[ember girder]

I mean if you got two it aint bad

Yeah he has uses

I think for the most part any unit that can fill a niche is worth at least evoing

[mellow ginkgo]

yeah im defo evoing for the gold mangoes

[harsh drum]

8k dps 🔥

[ember girder]

Okay but 3 vanguardillion DIR

[mellow ginkgo]

what's his overall dmg

[frigid fulcrum]

This suggestion has over 5300 comments. There's no way devs didn't notice this

Lol

[harsh drum]

yeah one guy has spent like 20+ hours in this thread

[ember girder]

I highkey don't want em to

[ornate wadi]

no way 💀

[mellow ginkgo]

crazy an archer in the show but the worst trait for him is marksman is crazy

[ember girder]

Oh lmfao

[mellow ginkgo]

enjoy it while ya can

no msg cd

[frigid fulcrum]

Lol

Fr

[simple crag]

either you atop tier hater or jus tlying

changed from 15 to 20

[gaunt otter]

Yeah I’ve gained some fans

[simple crag]

and it sabout the 80th time you mentioned this

we get it bro

[harsh drum]

15+ and 20+ can both be accurate

[ornate wadi]

how would he be a hater 💀

[frigid fulcrum]

Lol lmao

[gaunt otter]

He was crying like yesterday cuz he has no monarchs

[frigid fulcrum]

Frr

[mellow ginkgo]

no sane employed person would spend that much on a suggestion thread

[ember girder]

Dawg i'm lvl 101 My only monarch is zenitsu i'm gonna crashout

[harsh drum]

@gaunt otter isnt sane

[simple crag]

desperately trying to make the guy look like he has no life or something

[ornate wadi]

I mean he kinda doesn’t

If he spends that much time talking in here 😭

[harsh drum]

im merely pointing out he has over 20 hours on a thread that was created 2 days ago

[simple crag]

how does he even know he spent 20 hours speaking in a single thread

[gaunt otter]

Why are we lying💔

[burnt rock]

usually haters arent actually haters

[mellow ginkgo]

mostly ragebaiters

[ornate wadi]

idk he could jus go back and look at his messages

[mellow ginkgo]

just wanna see ppl get angry for no reason

[ember girder]

Guys what if we add hanako kun to the game

[gaunt otter]

I was literally sick yesterday 😭

In bed all day

[simple crag]

if you doing allat then you just sad

[gaunt otter]

He’s just mad cuz he has to go to school tmmr

💔

[harsh drum]

not an excuse to spend over 20 hours on discord arguing on a thread

[burnt rock]

no i meant they are usually just critiquing the game

[simple crag]

and NEED to step outside

[frigid fulcrum]

Btw how ur suggestion reached over 5000 comments? u was here for 24 hours?

[mellow ginkgo]

oh okay close enough ig

[gaunt otter]

Where is ur proof dude😭

[harsh drum]

yes hes been here for 20+ hours

[ornate wadi]

cuz ppl in here jus yappin

[ember girder]

Ive been checking here periódically people just use this as another general LMFAO

[burnt rock]

5

[gaunt otter]

I talked for like a total of 6 hours

Just cuz I’m bored time to time

[mellow ginkgo]

i thought it was a joke is this fr💔

[burnt rock]

thats 1 extra message

[gaunt otter]

This guy is just tryna stalk me or sum😭

[mellow ginkgo]

i thought ppl js wanted to chat with zero cd messages lmao

[frigid fulcrum]

Fr, he made his own community

[ember girder]

He might love you

[gaunt otter]

Idk

Maybe

[harsh drum]

yes over 1k messages in just this thread

[mellow ginkgo]

hush devs must not know about this

[ember girder]

What a 10 min cooldown does to a playerbase

[mellow ginkgo]

going strong with 6 😭🙏

[gaunt otter]

Yes

[harsh drum]

so 20% of all messages in this thread is from this guy being here for 20+ hours

😭 💔

[ornate wadi]

Oh nah that’s crazy lol

[mellow ginkgo]

maybe lvl farming.. 💔

or idk

[ember girder]

Thats not how it works dawg

[burnt rock]

devs when they see just ignoring a unit gets noticed and they have to do something with them

[harsh drum]

u dont gain lvls here

[gaunt otter]

Dawg I haven’t even been home for 20 hours since this thread was made

[mellow ginkgo]

ah poo

[gaunt otter]

💔💔

[frigid fulcrum]

He is dedicated like that. I guess

[ember girder]

You said this thread has been here for 2 days yet 20% of messages is 20+ hours?

[mellow ginkgo]

delete naruto and jago from the banner fr

[ornate wadi]

Not dedicated bro jus doesn’t touch grass

[simple crag]

how are you checking how much messages he has ina thread???

[gaunt otter]

Apparently ☠️

[burnt rock]

his shiny is cool 🗣️

[gaunt otter]

Not even two days btw

[ember girder]

You can also

Just

Do this

And get

A lot of

Messages

[gaunt otter]

I literally talk like that

[mellow ginkgo]

and that's abt it💔 they just take up rate up space tbh😭🙏

[gaunt otter]

If u look at my history

💔

[burnt rock]

legacy banner time

[simple crag]

i js wanna know how bro tracked the 1k you sent here

[mellow ginkgo]

i enjoyed my time w u guyd before this gets locked or deleted

[ornate wadi]

this guy has a total of 2k messages and 1k of them are in here

[gaunt otter]

No clue some type of dedication

[mellow ginkgo]

😭

[burnt rock]

suggest to add a spam chat to the discord

[ornate wadi]

you could jus search messages from his user not hard

[gaunt otter]

0 cd

[frigid fulcrum]

Or good side. Before this gets approved

[mellow ginkgo]

there probably is but on the higher lvls

[ember girder]

I feel like if youre acessing 2K messages over which ones were in this thread you have an issue

[simple crag]

that would mean going through more than 1 list of of his messages

[burnt rock]

this discords level limits are way too high lmao

[simple crag]

thats weird dawg

[gaunt otter]

Literally

[mellow ginkgo]

yeah just scroll up to the last 5000 messages 😭

[ornate wadi]

?

[gaunt otter]

I don’t know why my life is getting stalked

[mellow ginkgo]

i doubt devs would do that

[gaunt otter]

I spent one night talked here

[ornate wadi]

you don’t have to go through the list

[gaunt otter]

Then got a fever

[frigid fulcrum]

Lol fair point. Rip devs

[gaunt otter]

And spent some of my afternoon

And apparently I’ve spent 20 hours

😭

[ornate wadi]

cuz your wasting your life talking here instead of touching grass

[gaunt otter]

Dude

[mellow ginkgo]

bro just had good intentions till he gets doxxed

[ember girder]

Dawg no one who plays a Roblox tower defense games touches grass

[gaunt otter]

I just came back from college

[ember girder]

Be real for a moment

[gaunt otter]

I had a fever yesterday

😭 😭

Always people with no money

[mellow ginkgo]

my day consist of 90% grass touching and 10% setting up mangoes

[gaunt otter]

No girlfriend

Or education who hate

[plush bobcat]

Or they add my cha in 2nd evo

[ornate wadi]

💀

who’s hating

[ember girder]

Farmer looking ahh

[mellow ginkgo]

zero chance they'll add a 2nd evo for cha

she has no other forms in the manhwa

[gaunt otter]

That one guy idk

He started hating cuz I called him poor

[simple crag]

sooo

[gaunt otter]

Tuff

[simple crag]

FUCK

[ornate wadi]

sad

[plush bobcat]

2nd evo will be: cha in and other people🤑

[frigid fulcrum]

interesting

wait

[gaunt otter]

bro

i js checking

checked

[frigid fulcrum]

seilor commented in this suggestion?

[gaunt otter]

and i only spent 6 and hald hours in this sugg

out of like 40 hours

[simple crag]

yes

[frigid fulcrum]

what did he say

[gaunt otter]

@ornate wadi worst part was the guy flaming me has the same amount of messages as me

[frigid fulcrum]

bro scrolling in this suggestion takes ages

[gaunt otter]

he said nothing basically

[ornate wadi]

nothing really

[ornate wadi]

fr? 💀

[gaunt otter]

ys

and i only got this muhc

cuz i space my messages out

[ornate wadi]

who was it again

[gaunt otter]

some bat dude

[ornate wadi]

cyklov?

oh

[pallid meadow]

The secondary effects of not beign able to create more suggestions made this one reach 5500 comments

[gaunt otter]

this suggestion is superior

[frigid fulcrum]

u said clay never brings happiness?

[gaunt otter]

yea

[frigid fulcrum]

why bro

I'm seeing his trolls and jokes in announcements left and right

[gaunt otter]

ye n his snarky comments in general

[frigid fulcrum]

sneaky?

[gaunt otter]

snarky

[obsidian mantle]

SJw

He has more purpose

Worldline and tourney

[spiral ivy]

What’s best trait for sjw

[obsidian mantle]

Monarch everywhere
Deadeye Inf only

[harsh drum]

hes only talked in this suggestions in thread besides 1 other where he has 3 messages in

[dusky merlin]

im ngl you already have deadeye on him reroll for monarch on gogeta

monarch has a bigger impact on gogeta than any unit in the game so Ill always recommend people roll him first

[gaunt otter]

2K+ msgs btw

[dusky merlin]

better chat than general

general is just full of 12 year olds sadly

[gaunt otter]

yh

[pallid meadow]

Exactly, besides theres other units that can do sjw work with monarch better already.

[dusky merlin]

gotta work on your english

[pallid meadow]

I highly doubt it

[small steeple]

can we revert this please

[dusky merlin]

but I think the jist of that message is you think other units can outdo sjw with monarch

[dusky merlin]

no

amazing change

[harsh drum]

why?

[small steeple]

yes

inf tsukuyomi floors are braindead now thats why

[dusky merlin]

not everyone has jinwoo

[harsh drum]

tsukuyomi is the most annoying wordlines gamemode so its fine

[small steeple]

its supposed to be a wall

[maiden warren]

i can use my monarch aizen and sakura at the same time now

[small steeple]

now its not even a challenge

[dusky merlin]

not everyone has jinwoo vanguard

[small steeple]

most ppl wont push past 50

but the ones who do will have him

[pallid meadow]

Pre fix it was better ngl, unbounds were debuffed by like 72% on that weather

Made them actually a challenge to pass

[small steeple]

i wouldnt go that far

[maiden warren]

no that made it stupid asf

[harsh drum]

we should make ichigo placable in tsukuyomi

[round haven]

if you rejoined the game it would fix that
so it stopped nothing

[dusky merlin]

lol

[obsidian mantle]

Nobody cares

We don’t care stop being poor

[small steeple]

yo congrats on becoming a tester

[obsidian mantle]

@round haven why have they still not fixed Yama’s but?g?

[pallid meadow]

Oh it did? That would have been good to know 💀

[round haven]

thanks

[round haven]

they working on it
theres more severe issues rn

[small steeple]

when repulse fix

[round haven]

wasnt that already pushed through?

or am i tripping

[dusky merlin]

do they know about the one where jinwoo spawns infinite eleven men but they arent shadows they are enemies lmao

[obsidian mantle]

It’s not in #「📚」update-log

[round haven]

i think so but ill check

[dusky merlin]

if I wasnt done on my battlepass that would have instantly cleared it LOL

[small steeple]

grrr

[dusky merlin]

my game nearly crashed from the thousands of eleven men

[round haven]

wasnt it this issue

[dusky merlin]

no idea

definitely not since it just happened 30 minutes ago

[small steeple]

repulse just wouldnt work

i have a clip from today

lemme send it rq

[dusky merlin]

I have no idea how to reproduce this issue

but

it happened randomly

[small steeple]

https://medal.tv/games/roblox/clips/jUlL8sy5FQQRqUZc_?invite=cr-MSxPd3AsMzM3NzA2MTI0 @round haven

[round haven]

nvm thats already been reported

windstorm breaks repulse somehow

[small steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/brazilian-luffy-dance-gif-14601096355637687758

[frigid fulcrum]

The greenies

[indigo torrent]

get another igris 🗣️

[lost sapphire]

so tough bro

the 3 of them dont share mana so you can have 3 irons tanks and berus

arise is shared though

[unkempt cave]

You sacrifice igris bro…

[lost sapphire]

i got a second one

today

[brittle sorrel]

shared?

[round haven]

its not really shared
the condidtions to activate it are just global

[brittle sorrel]

wait so 1 kill and 3 assists isnt ewual 3 summons?

[round haven]

1 enemy dying is 3 summons

[brittle sorrel]

oh what

[round haven]

assists and kills arent needed

same with gaining mana back

[brittle sorrel]

oh shoot

ehat trait do u think is best on jinwoo rho?

tho

[round haven]

monarch > deadeye > eth

[brittle sorrel]

tyty

[round haven]

for inf deadeye would be best but outside of that monarch better

[brittle sorrel]

oh i c

[dusky merlin]

you should 100% keep deadeye if you get it until you stack up more rerolls

especially since getting rerolls is so easy through bounties now

he doesnt need monarch to function whatsoever

[brittle sorrel]

both traits r cracked

[ember girder]

500 more summons and i can finally get sjw

[bright fulcrum]

Things like this happen, can't expect every unit to be a W for ppl, they gave us a heads up with igris not being any good with the Vsjw.. So it's more like we had wrong expectations

[lost sapphire]

do u know how long ago i said this

[lost sapphire]

hes so good even witout a trait bro

[bright fulcrum]

I was reading through all the msg to make sure I don't make any stupid msg

[lost sapphire]

i was just ranting

makes zero sense for igris to transfer

[bright fulcrum]

Imo(purely my opinion alone) they should just make it, not consume igris completely, but rather, just need him in the inventory to count

[lost sapphire]

u do have to sacrifice igris

[bright fulcrum]

That way, ppl with monarch will retain their trait and everyone can chill

[lost sapphire]

i guess

[round haven]

thats not what ppl are upset about

[lost sapphire]

but

ppl are just ranting they cant transfer monarch

[round haven]

ye

[lost sapphire]

igris is still INSANELY

[bright fulcrum]

That was my suggestion to solve this above problem

[lost sapphire]

good

alone

unless u got yhwach then hes useless

[bright fulcrum]

Trying to make both sides happy tbh

[round haven]

insanely is a strong word
hes pretty irrelevent outside of dungeon

[bright fulcrum]

U gotta remember that igris is a 0.75% from the legend stages

[lost sapphire]

ehhh

multi hit aoe withj 100k dmg

hes still rlly good considering hes release

[round haven]

with like 5 full aoes that do more😭

[spiral ivy]

This the 2nd general chat atp

[lost sapphire]

they shoulda buffed him tho

[bright fulcrum]

Can tell me? I hella forgot em

[round haven]

yamamoto yhwach aizen gojo choso

[bright fulcrum]

Been using monarch Gilgamesh for too long

[round haven]

i think with sjw and against a boss igris could out dps some of them but thats way too specific of a circumstance

[lost sapphire]

i feel like igris should get like a 100% buff

dmg

then hes back up there

[bright fulcrum]

A fix to that can be that he can get those buffs without a sjw on the field

Like any summon works

Would kinda ruin his gimmick but bear with me

[lost sapphire]

or new sjw can buff him

that seems the most likely

from devs

[spiral ivy]

They are not doing shit for old igris 😭

[simple crag]

he aight

i got him monarch

hes basically always replaced outside of macaroni and cheesing

[void rampart]

[lofty acorn]

get off the game

[bright fulcrum]

He is replacable even in those now

Since there is a better full aoe rn

[small steeple]

Shut up boi

[indigo torrent]

i need a 2nd evo for my king 💔

[lofty acorn]

nah like it's good to take a break

[cyan hinge]

Honestly think this was how they were gonna do it kinda disappointed at how the devs handled this

[mellow ginkgo]

off topic but i think they should just remove the weighted banner thing lmfao saber took 6 days to get another rate up and aizen is just completely gone from the game 😭

[novel rose]

This aged so well

[earnest lance]

fr

now they HAVE to buff alucard and igiris

hell even gojita

however u spell his name

[novel rose]

Not gogeta

He does 70k DPS monarch

[novel rose]

They won't lol

[earnest lance]

these devs js say shit and go on with it

[proud juniper]

Diavolo over here with 112k with slow and cc

[novel rose]

What

Pretty sure he does 60k DPS max passive

[proud juniper]

Huh thats weird i saw a ss of someone with 112k

Anyways he got 100% dodge and counter attack

[novel rose]

Prolly with buffing units

[proud juniper]

So basically js a better overall unit

Than gogeta

[obsidian mantle]

you should get muted

you’re just constantly spreading bullshit statements

[earnest lance]

?

how am i spreading bs statements? 😭

[ember girder]

Alucard is fine as is theyre still the Best wounded unit in the game

Gogeta is top 3

And Igris doesnt needs buffs they just need support or smth else

Diavolo getting updated is jus cause theyre a vanguard unit and they were like

Good

On release

A vanguard unit getting powercrept in 6 months aint it

[spring gull]

igris general rank would be cool

[ember girder]

I actually dig the fake affinity system so much

Imagine like

You could get ítems to boost units

And like make it equalize with your team's overall stats

So it would average out to your whole teams average damage stats

Kinda like sakura

[earnest lance]

well if they are gonna buff a unit that "doest revolve around the game" or wtv then they should buff the other ones aswell

[ember girder]

That statement doesnt hold up anymore since it's a different team

Vanguards are clearly meant to be meta now

Like

[earnest lance]

then they should bufff other units

[ember girder]

The whole owner of the game changed

[ember girder]

They have said they plan on buffing units just not like

Give them more damage and call it a day

[earnest lance]

they needa buff igiris

[ember girder]

Like

Diavolo is a special case

[earnest lance]

"solo leveling part 2"

[ember girder]

Because they we're released before the new team

[wide scaffold]

deez nutz

😭😭😂😂

😂😂😂

[ember girder]

Igris doesnt need a buff

They just need new content

[earnest lance]

the hell he doesnt

[ember girder]

That supoorts it

[earnest lance]

old igiris was amazing

[ember girder]

Yes and it will keep being old

[earnest lance]

all they gotta do is revert igiris

[wide scaffold]

They debuffed bro first update tengen beat him right

[earnest lance]

diavalo is old and hes broken now

why cant igiris be the same

[ember girder]

Because hes a vanguard unit

[wide scaffold]

Vanguard

[ember girder]

Ofc old secrets are gonna get fazed out

[earnest lance]

and?

[ember girder]

For the new ones

[earnest lance]

so should old vanguards

[ember girder]

Yes but diavolo wasnt Made by the new team

[wide scaffold]

vanguard units are suppose to stay in meta for a while but i see no reason for divalo to be buffed hes a insane support imo

[novel rose]

nah when they nerfed igris they took it back like right away

[wide scaffold]

oh

[earnest lance]

igiris has been nerfed forever

[ember girder]

Diavolo is a case of simply the unit being asscheeks when released

[earnest lance]

they never reverted it

[novel rose]

this is from pyseph btw

[ember girder]

Like

[novel rose]

yeah they did

[earnest lance]

why isnt my igiris doing 100k+ then?

monarch btw

[ember girder]

Different balance team now tho

[earnest lance]

"balance team" dumbest thing i ever heard

[wide scaffold]

u don’t need diavolo ngl u can do much more with sjw or gogeta

[ember girder]

???????? Do You have any idea how a game works

Like period

[copper ridge]

[earnest lance]

no such thing as a balance team lol its the devs no other team

[ember girder]

Balance team is part of the dev team

Bro

[earnest lance]

shoulda said that

[ember girder]

Because it isnt neccesary???????

[wide scaffold]

Guys knock knock

[ember girder]

Who is it

[novel rose]

when do you think igris was nerfed? Im talking about 0.5

[wide scaffold]

ingoff

[earnest lance]

everyone is gonna ask what a "balance team" is

[ember girder]

Ingoff who

[wide scaffold]

jerkingoff 😂😂😂😂😂

[ember girder]

No because they actually know how Game development works

[novel rose]

this was after they nerfed him on 0.5

shortly after

[ember girder]

Mr eléctric send him to hell

[novel rose]

that's the only time he's been changed

[novel rose]

are you getting full passive buffs with sjw

[ember girder]

People hard coping cause of their unit not being good anymore

Let it go bro

Its over

[novel rose]

yeah im not saying igris should be good

he's a secret

from release

😭

[ember girder]

I mean like smth else to be done with it would be nice

But like

Diavolo is a vanguard

There are

3 vanguards in game

And more than like

10 secrets

Atp

[novel rose]

It's lame having the game balanced around 0.005% units tho

obviously there's nothing to be done about it

but it just kind of sucks

[earnest lance]

igiris is still nerfed no matter what

[ember girder]

I mean kinda??? Like

Gogeta wasnt neccesary

When he came out

Neither is sjw rn really

The only thing getting fucked is like

Tourneys

And some lb

[novel rose]

he's just weak compared to the current meta

[novel rose]

depends on the content

for the majority of stuff yes

[ember girder]

I mean ofc he's gonna make your life easier

But like

[earnest lance]

pre nerf igiris will still be competing with other secrets

[ember girder]

The hardest thing rn is like

Rifts

And you can clear that with two people and a lucy

[novel rose]

he was nerfed back in like 0.5

and then partially if not fully rebuffed

iirc

[earnest lance]

its all cuz of tengen

[novel rose]

No way you remember his stats from all the way back then

[ember girder]

Even then like

[novel rose]

tengen and igris are like neck and neck

[earnest lance]

pre nerf igiris was 110k dmg

[novel rose]

until you add in mythic sjw

[earnest lance]

like 6 sec full aoe

[ember girder]

Yes thats asscheeks

By todays standards

[earnest lance]

he was a boss killer, one of his passives gave him extra dmg killing bosses

[ember girder]

Yes a bad one

By today standards

[earnest lance]

buiut they nerfed that passsive

[ember girder]

Wasnt vegeta better

Even back then

[earnest lance]

HELL no

they reworked vegita WAAY after igiris was nerfed to the ground

[wide scaffold]

vegeta was a goat and still a goat

[ember girder]

They didnt?????

[novel rose]

Igris is still good btw

[earnest lance]

yes they did

[ember girder]

I mean like hes fine but

[novel rose]

Tl from the Lb server has igris in z

[ember girder]

Why

[novel rose]

Faoe

[ember girder]

Wouldnt you just run anything else

[novel rose]

Vegeta has NEVER been changed

[wide scaffold]

isnt igris the only unit to deal extra damage to bosses only

[novel rose]

You're tripping 😭

[ember girder]

I think this guy is just ragebaiting

[earnest lance]

They reworked hiisii passives

[ember girder]

Or talking outta his ass

[novel rose]

No they did not I've been playing since the game dropped

They never changed Vegeta's passives

[ember girder]

Granny seiko lmao

[wide scaffold]

ohhh that’s right mb

[obsidian mantle]

No.

There’s others

Lancer seiko Vegeta

Tengen?

Yhwach?

[wide scaffold]

don’t think tengen but ik lancer and vegeta

yhwatch jus overall good

[obsidian mantle]

Feel like Yhwaxh count cuz he’s technically doing 2x attacks

To the boss

[wide scaffold]

basically yeah

[proven galleon]

Tengen has the same passive as those two

I think he has 25%?

[wide scaffold]

who’s the absolute worst unit in the game

[proven galleon]

Worst mythical+?

[nimble flare]

prolly obito or naruto

[proven galleon]

Naruto is a decent early game

"Decent"

[wide scaffold]

i remember obito being crazy on release

then they debuffed him and made him dog, he deserves a double evo or a new unit

[nimble flare]

on release everyone was okay and viable

[wide scaffold]

dam

[sharp elk]

Bro plays aa with 1 in 400000 buddha

[earnest lance]

"Bro plays aa"

been grinding av for abt a month

[sharp elk]

Watchu mean a Month 😭🙏🏻 tournament v3😭😭

[wooden goblet]

Dtm

Just evo ur sjw and sacrifice igris fam

[earnest lance]

i quit the same day dandadan update dropped

[sharp elk]

Understandable

[earnest lance]

we ALL know that update was horrible

[sharp elk]

Yh

[simple crag]

yeah but hes my only monarly full aoe multihit onarch

[wooden goblet]

Monarly onarch

[simple crag]

my only* monarch*

[rapid oriole]

bump ts

[plucky shoal]

Bump

[vale cypress]

if im not doing inf leaderboard do i still roll off my deadeye on sjw

[brittle sorrel]

get another jinwoo go for monarch

[vale cypress]

i had another shiny sjw but i normalized it

[bright fulcrum]

Understandable

[ember girder]

Deadaye is tbe Best trait for vanguard sjw tho

[blissful eagle]

Ye

Monarch for basically short tuns

Runs

And deadeye for long runs

[brittle sorrel]

Nope

[frigid fulcrum]

Nope

[wicked cave]

then what?

[frigid fulcrum]

monarch

[wicked cave]

ive been told by man thats not true

[frigid fulcrum]

thats not true

Its the best in everything except inf

[wicked cave]

So in longterm its not the best 🤔

[brittle sorrel]

Yeah

[wicked cave]

ill just stick to my deadeye, my gogeta has all my attention atm

[brittle sorrel]

Don’t roll for monarch if u have deadeye

They’re both good

[frigid fulcrum]

no

Keep gambling

[brittle sorrel]

😭

Icl

8k dps on placement jinwoo is juicy

Then 15k on upgrade 3 with fat cone

[narrow monolith]

Deadeye can honestly be better than monarch on jinwu

The only reason monarch wud be better is for the nukes and cost

[elfin spire]

Please.

[pure willow]

and the 3m beru summon ,1.5 m bear 4m steel and the monarch scaled healing from healer and passive regen from beru

[novel rose]

Deadeye ends up being better

[round haven]

-# for inf

[novel rose]

Yeah

[pure willow]

only in lb runs

overall game content monarch is better

[round haven]

simply get both traits

[spark kelp]

Bear summon’s also a lot better with Monarch

since you can spam him

[narrow monolith]

It rlly depends....

[narrow monolith]

Bcuz arise summons scale based on enemy hp

So in like jeju raids,rifts and anywhere where enemy hp is like high

Deadeye is Definitely better, due to the fact that the arise summons deal WAYYY more dmg than monarch active summons

And like u don't even need to upgrade him

Just place 3 of him,while u focus on other units

Only reason monarch is better is bcuz of the cost and nukes.

[idle kayak]

realistically you arent using arise mode in jeju raids anyway

you are using full aoe units

the only thing arise mode is good for is early story and not wanting to upgrade anything else for the run

or summon builds

[narrow monolith]

And??the question here is sjw monarch vs sjw deadeye

[narrow monolith]

??? Other than the nuke gand cost

Give me one reason

[idle kayak]

and monarch is significantly better for the majority of content

[narrow monolith]

Yo use monarch of deadeye

[idle kayak]

more powerful summons?

[narrow monolith]

Yes but for this particular unit deadeye is pretty solid and stands a chance against monarch

[idle kayak]

the hp scaling even with deadeye on the arise build is still only 20% of the enemies health

[narrow monolith]

Arise summons do more with deadeye.

[idle kayak]

yamamoto is better than that in the vast majority of content

by a long shot

[spark merlin]

Deadeye better for inf

[narrow monolith]

20% of and u can stack upto 50 shadows.

[spark merlin]

ok next

[idle kayak]

sjw you want to use as backline support and nuker

yamamoto is the summoner

unless you are exclusively in infinite or jeju raids

then sjw deadeye is better

[idle kayak]

and jeju raids

but tbh that ones kinda a toss up

the unique summons get a LOT of health if u have exterminator

[narrow monolith]

He requires kills which is difficult in late game,and in late game,his arise summons actually has the potential to kill the enemies by itself

[idle kayak]

what late game?

[left parcel]

Thats a necessary flaw

[idle kayak]

are you talking about the two specific things i said sjw was better in?

[narrow monolith]

And the fact that jis arise summons do not get powercrept

[idle kayak]

cuz even in 30 wave content, monarch sjw is better

[narrow monolith]

Let's say enemies have 2 mil gp

Hp

As u said

Sjw does 20% in arise

Of the enemy

[idle kayak]

yea you need to kill 10 of them to kill 1, lets say you have deadeye, now you need 5 kills per enemy you kill

[narrow monolith]

200k+ crit +50 shadows stacked up

[idle kayak]

its still not good

its 5 shadows per enemy

you'll run out after 12 enemies

[narrow monolith]

Compared to berus with 1 mil hp

[idle kayak]

?????

beru has way more than 1m hp

[narrow monolith]

Alr so 36

[idle kayak]

he has like 3-4m

[narrow monolith]

36 x 400k

U can do the maths

[narrow monolith]

Still arise is more.

[idle kayak]

not when u think about overall

like i said

in two specific gamemodes deadeye is better

in every other gamemode monarch is better

[narrow monolith]

Think about in the later meta

When enemy scaling go up

[idle kayak]

that will be at least 4 updates away

which by then you could easily have a second sjw vanguard

[narrow monolith]

Rn the bleach enemies go upto 100k

[idle kayak]

since they only take like a week to get

[narrow monolith]

20k +crit+ 5.1k placement + 36 shadows + constantly summoning

Whereas monarch

U need to upgrade him

To get him beru

And bear at placement does less than 10k

100k*

[idle kayak]

???

wdym constantly summoning

no he is not

its 4 mana per summon + something that has died in his range

aka its 2 kills per summon + chances are you'll be summoning units that have far less than 10% of the enemies health

since the weak enemies die first

so you'll spawn them first

[narrow monolith]

😭😭😭

It's still doing more than bear+ if the mana recovery as u say doesn't recover as much as it does, wudnt the same apply for his active summons???

And the Nuke potential

U can use 3 nukes at the same time for the bosses

Whereas it's only one with monarch

Being better in 2 endgame content, traits lb and infinite

And the arise summons never get power crept,unlike his active summons

[idle kayak]

yea they arent supposed to be permanently up

with monarch you are never leaking enemies + you can use nukes on the bosses and have full mana again for the next boss

if its a 2 or 3 boss gamemode and u for some reason even need to use the nuke

[narrow monolith]

I mean for traits lb

[idle kayak]

and its useful in ALL content

not just inf or jeju

[narrow monolith]

Why is it never??? The same applies for deadeye too?

[idle kayak]

the point is you arent using all your mana while also not leaking enemies

with deadeye you ARE using all your mana and not leaking enemies

[narrow monolith]

And?? What's the point if the enemies r gonna die anyways

It takes 3 shadows per enemy,if I crit with all 3

And his 2nd passive

Is completely useless With monarch and if u dint bring giselle

Even with giselle,u need the spawns to travel all the way to his range which takes time

And as I said u can just place him at the beginning and let the summons do the deed

And u can focus on another unit to kill the enemies

So u can just consistently generate shadows