Can we do something with Igris??

[kind wraith]

I think you guys are coping cause you got a good trait on igris

[gaunt otter]

Yeah do u know what happened to the testers with this game

[kind wraith]

Igris doesn’t even have any sort of potential to be upgraded unless they make their own unit

Or reach into heavy spoilers in the manhwa

Both of which is just unethical

A buff sure I get that

But anything else is just not happening

[deft goblet]

New evo boutta be called jinwoo and igris and beru and bellion while igris gets nothing else 💔

[ember girder]

Okay i'm not saying to do this with igris but what if units actually sounds cool

[gaunt otter]

Like literally what was the point of adding a super rare secret unit bro

[keen folio]

My monarch igris a fodder for my blitz sjw bruh

Devs are rage bait fr

Ppl already crashing out bout this

[gaunt otter]

Like they need to just add a buff for igris

These devs keep tryna say this new unit is worth it

But it’s literally worse than old sjw imo

[kind wraith]

This is actually blasphemy bro 💔

JINWOO was completely irrelevant before this update

[gaunt otter]

Holy ur a bot

[kind wraith]

He hasn’t been good since release

Let’s not start spouting blatant lies

[gaunt otter]

Sjw is literally the best boss killer

[kind wraith]

No

He’s not

[gaunt otter]

And best unit for infinite

LOLLL

[kind wraith]

😭

He’s mid

I’m sorry to the bearer of bad news bro

[gaunt otter]

Mind u this guy isn’t part of the lb server

😭 😭

[kind wraith]

It doesn’t matter

Sjw is mid

End of the day

Completely irrelevant in all shape and forms

[ember girder]

Hes literally the Best boss killer though

[gaunt otter]

LIKE WHAT LOL

[kind wraith]

There’s better dps there better summoners there’s better everything’s at what sjw can do

[gaunt otter]

HIS EVO NERFS HIM

[ember girder]

Ant unit that scales based on your progress in a stage will forever be at least solid

[gaunt otter]

I guarantee that his guy doesn’t know he scales with the waves

[ember girder]

I wouldnt say this either tho

Like

[gaunt otter]

IMO yes

New sjw doesn’t scale

[ember girder]

Useful in 1 Game mode vs useful in almost the entire game

[gaunt otter]

And other units do his job better

Not saying he’s a bad unit

[kind wraith]

There’s only 1 unit arguably better than jinwoo

And it’s gogeta

[ember girder]

I mean thing is you NEED monarch for sjw to be edfective on lb

[kind wraith]

Because it’s gogeta obviously

[ember girder]

You don't need monarch on evo sjw for them to do well

[gaunt otter]

Yes but he doesn’t deal crazy dps without monarch on new sjw

[ember girder]

His point is summoning he doesnt need dps

[gaunt otter]

IMO

If u have monarch she

Sjw

I wouldn’t evo it

[ember girder]

Gogeta mid without monarch tho

[deft goblet]

Summons dont scale off enemy hp anymore?

[kind wraith]

Yeah true

[deft goblet]

Im confused on what jineoo rots

[kind wraith]

But honestly

[deft goblet]

does*

[gaunt otter]

New jinwoo doesn’t scale

[ember girder]

Or just get two of em this fucker was forced onto banner for 11 hours

[kind wraith]

Gogeta good for a person who doesn’t have monarchs

[gaunt otter]

Unironically he’s not a crazy summoner

He’s better for nukes

[dim mural]

Huh why

[ember girder]

True tbh

[gaunt otter]

New jinwoo doesn’t scale summons

If u aren’t planning on lb runs

[deft goblet]

What does his summons scale off

[gaunt otter]

And want another biker

Nuker

Go for it

[ember girder]

Hes still like top 3 units but people havent found the way to optimize em

[gaunt otter]

I wouldn’t otherwise

[gaunt otter]

They might need to buff it

Or maybe it’s a bug

Why is unironicallymythic sjw doing more dmg with summons

[ember girder]

I mean but once again youre not getting anything out of em apart from lb runs

[deft goblet]

Does the new jinwoo still summon enemies

Like the ol

Old one

[ember girder]

Yeah but they scale off the mana bar

Not the enemies health

[gaunt otter]

Really cool unit though

IMO his viability as a summoner is kinda buns

He’s more useful as a nuke

He’s a good sub dps if u pair him with gogeta

And then use Giselle as support

I can see sjw being good for lb but not as good as old one

He is f2p friendly tho I’ll say that

[void rampart]

rest in peace igris you had carried me badly

not even better than traitless yhwach or gogeta

[dusky merlin]

gng I evolved him without looking...

[plush bobcat]

Cursed av

Ascensions on av unit?

[dusky merlin]

does it carry over ascensions?

[severe condor]

No

They get deleted

[plush bobcat]

Nooooo

For what i saved 5 song jin wuu

[iron star]

have they made it so you cant make suggestions anymore??

[plush bobcat]

Same question

I think we can now only talk here

We need more rizz up lvl

[severe condor]

Why would they do that

[plush bobcat]

To rizz up devs

[plush bobcat]

Idk

[proud juniper]

We need ascension??

Gng i literally js stat transfer my sjw cuz i thought they gonn make him like aizen but vanguard

[dusky merlin]

no no I think they get deleted

[void rampart]

it's over chat we will wait til 2026 when sjw gets another evol named sjw and bellion without better ver of igris it's over for us

[spiral ivy]

[copper ridge]

Yo

Can you tell me about the arise

Like if one shw uses arise does it disable for the rest?

[dusky merlin]

no

obviously

he doesnt even need to attack an enemy

any dead enemies get revived

[copper ridge]

Huh

So its not an ability?

[dusky merlin]

it is a toggle

[copper ridge]

How do the summon hp scale?

Is it based on the enemies?

Or his own dmg

[dusky merlin]

oh the normal summons

idk yet

I cant test in sandbox until next update

the named summons are pretty bad first impressions

the screenshot in announcements was baiting

its not 1mil

steel spawns at 120k

[void rampart]

i see him increase hp time after time

like infinity

so 1mil is not impossible as all

[copper ridge]

Pre sure beru base ho is like 500k no?

[dusky merlin]

caps at 500k

[dusky merlin]

120k

[copper ridge]

If you summon at max mana

Cause i was watching a video on him

And he was constantly summing 1mil berus with giselle

[dusky merlin]

either im doing something wrong or hes bugged

[copper ridge]

The more named summons the less hp they have no?

[dusky merlin]

no idea

[copper ridge]

I just need to know the scaling on his normal summons

Like the ones from arise

Cause if hes worse then pre evo sjw for inf then thats wild work

[pure willow]

tbh they should have made them combine their stats and traits, so like if you had ethereal and blitz it would have been that that unit with double traits which are those two and double Z+ can become godly

[plush bobcat]

Balance in the game would destroy

Like

[dusky merlin]

hes a lot worse than I thought he would be

[copper ridge]

Hell no

[dusky merlin]

but hes not bad at all

[copper ridge]

He scales with monarch btw

Summon hp etc

[plush bobcat]

Now units average dmg around 70k and he would do like 600k

[dusky merlin]

im starting to think monarch is needed on him

ye

[copper ridge]

So hes a monarch merchent

[dusky merlin]

kinda sad I wont use him unless I get monarch

[copper ridge]

Eth is decent ig since you can more consistently have summons and such

But monarach gives a huge dps buff for less summons

[copper ridge]

Have you tried him with giselle?

[dusky merlin]

dont have giselle

[copper ridge]

Pre sure yiu have to use giselle with him

[plush bobcat]

Why u say he is bad😭 yes i think he isnt top 1 meta unit in game but bruh he is still meta

[dusky merlin]

gng you have to realize I have 3 monarchs

[copper ridge]

Top meta depending on his arise summon scaling

[dusky merlin]

rn he replaces none of them based on the performance so far

[plush bobcat]

I have 2 monarchs

[copper ridge]

🤨

U missed the point

But anyways

If you can figure out the scaling that would be super helpful

[gaunt otter]

Scales on mana

Not enemy hp

[copper ridge]

[gaunt otter]

If that’s what ur asking

[copper ridge]

Even the ones from the arise toggle?

[plush bobcat]

This arise scaling will help u only in inf lb. U just trade inf lb meta unit on meta unit overall

[gaunt otter]

He’s better with ethereal or deadeye icl

[dusky merlin]

talking base shadows

not named

[plush bobcat]

I have deadeye

[copper ridge]

Cause if the base shadows scale off mana

[gaunt otter]

Only like scenario

[copper ridge]

Then he might just be buns

[gaunt otter]

That monarch is better

Is if u want to use nukes at max potential

[copper ridge]

The summons scale based on his dmg

[gaunt otter]

But if u want dmg just get monarch gogeta atp

[copper ridge]

So monarch is generally better overall

[gaunt otter]

Aware

[plush bobcat]

Hell No. How i say he just turning from inf lb meta to meta overall

[gaunt otter]

But with 3

[dusky merlin]

gng the summons were just 99 hp

[gaunt otter]

You can get more dps

[copper ridge]

He would be low meta for progressive and low meta for inf

[plush bobcat]

Inf not only gamemode in the game

[copper ridge]

Pre evo sjw woukd be better then him

[gaunt otter]

Since there’s no global cd and they don’t cancel each other oit

[knotty belfry]

With deadeye or ethereal hes only meta for inf lb with monarch for literally everything else

[copper ridge]

For inf if the summons don’t scale the same

[gaunt otter]

You can use more abilities without monarch

[plush bobcat]

Why for progressive low meta

[gaunt otter]

He’s high progressive meta

[plush bobcat]

Like he has hight dmg + he is summoner

[gaunt otter]

Just place 3 and ur chilling

[plush bobcat]

^

[gaunt otter]

I don’t see any other practical uses for him

[knotty belfry]

Why do that if you can place 1 with the dmg of 3

[gaunt otter]

Unwhelming for a vanguard

[gaunt otter]

U don’t understand

His passives and abilities

[plush bobcat]

What

[gaunt otter]

If you use arise

You cant use the named summons

[dusky merlin]

you can

but the mana drain is ridiculous

[gaunt otter]

See

[plush bobcat]

40 mana per summon

[sand vector]

Is sjw evo 3 placement

[gaunt otter]

It’s better if you just get sjw

[plush bobcat]

Yes

[gaunt otter]

Non monarch

Get a high dmg unit

[dusky merlin]

mana is a massive issue with this guy

[gaunt otter]

And the high dmg unit helps the sjw

He’s a sub dps

He’s like THE f2p unit lol

[plush bobcat]

If he hasnt mana thing, he would be broken

[gaunt otter]

No momarch required

Unless u go for nukes

[dusky merlin]

I actually think monarch is the play because mana drain is insane

[pure willow]

u dont need monarch for summoner team ❤️ just a good pc

[plush bobcat]

Like summoning 500k summon every min and he can summon other shadows with 40-70k

[copper ridge]

Don’t get me wrong

[plush bobcat]

With out mana

[gaunt otter]

Just use

[plush bobcat]

It broken

[gaunt otter]

A good dps

[copper ridge]

Hes good for progressive

But

[gaunt otter]

To get mana for sjw

[copper ridge]

No status ailment immunity

No dmg reduction bypass

[gaunt otter]

I’m close to getting him rn

@dusky merlin

We’re there any issues

On the key

[copper ridge]

And other units do same amount if dps for less cost

(Ragan/rem)

[gaunt otter]

He might get buffed idk

[plush bobcat]

He has summon for this. No stats ailment immunity not that bad. Just get unit like fubuci or saber idk

[gaunt otter]

We will just have to see when more people get him

As of right now only people that have him are people who bugged it

[copper ridge]

Yeah which is why those units are still better

Plus using sjw without giselle is pretty underwhelming

[pure willow]

im getting him rn with monarch, just 4k more shadow summons. just wait like 7 hours and ill be done 😭

[plush bobcat]

I still will farm him. His dmg like meta dps but he is summoner

[copper ridge]

Yeah still worth to farm

[gaunt otter]

@copper ridge is the arise bug fixed

[dusky merlin]

if you get the sac igris

ur good

[copper ridge]

What bug?

[gaunt otter]

Like you can still arise on end screen

[dusky merlin]

its not a bug

[copper ridge]

Oh I don’t know ask legend

[gaunt otter]

That can’t possibly be intentional

[pure willow]

u can but it wont count towards the quest

[dusky merlin]

no but its not a bug either

[pure willow]

i tested

[plush bobcat]

Oh i have idea about monarch igris

Issue

[gaunt otter]

Legend does it still count towards quest

U did get it right

[dusky merlin]

yes

[plush bobcat]

Like give players options to choose whos trait will be apply on evo

[gaunt otter]

@pure willow ur shi is just bugged

☠️

[pure willow]

bro i had it on inf after loss

for 2 hours

it did not count

[gaunt otter]

Ngl better idea

When u sac the igris and it has monarch

It will just imbue the evo item with monarch

[copper ridge]

No way you guys are still on that

[dusky merlin]

that is a dumb idea

[gaunt otter]

That’s doing too much but

[copper ridge]

[gaunt otter]

I can see it happening

Just an idea

For future duo/double evo units

[pure willow]

bro igris got cooked just let it go man 🪽

[spark kelp]

speedkillz

[plush bobcat]

No one want lose monarch😭

[pure willow]

what map did u do it on

[dusky merlin]

new dungeon

[plush bobcat]

I can see only black screen

[pure willow]

with loss or win?

[dusky merlin]

loss

[gaunt otter]

Literally at the point

They can either just like

Give igris raw damage buff

Or just let him also evo into the unit

[dusky merlin]

or just accept that jinwoo is the double evo

[plush bobcat]

May be in next update

[gaunt otter]

Only other option

Is wait for solo leveling part 3

Since it’s confirmed

[plush bobcat]

They give us cha in evo and iris evo

They should fly again🔥

[dusky merlin]

consensus on jinwoo without monarch

good unit

top 5

[gaunt otter]

5?

[dusky merlin]

overrated though

[knotty belfry]

Buff vanguard sjw

[gaunt otter]

Rs

We got Aizen, yhwach, gogeta, saber, salter all out dps

Salter is actually good now since she doesn’t break cc

Don’t sleep on her

[earnest lance]

bro this game is so hard for a new comer

[dusky merlin]

of course my friend who hasnt touched the quest gets monarch in 15 rolls on jinwoo

[gaunt otter]

Yeah icl

Pention to make the monarch pity universal

Or just lower it to 1k on a single unit

Cuz this is absurd

[plush bobcat]

Im start thinkig new comers have increase luck to have monarch

[dusky merlin]

hes not new

has monarch yhwach

[keen folio]

Bro Devs gotta make a new unit called Igris and Sung Jin woo cuz wtf is this

Crash out party

Devs rage baiting 10/10

I wanna sacrifice my monarch sjw to my blitz igris

[plush bobcat]

U want sacrifice monarch to blitz unit?

[limber python]

Huh ?

[keen folio]

Exactly my point

Nobody wanna sacrifice a monarch to a non monarch unit just for an evo

[primal igloo]

then don't

[gaunt otter]

🤔

[primal igloo]

reply to the message above

not your post

[spark kelp]

lowk only suckers grind out monarch units

[primal igloo]

I haven't read it

[gaunt otter]

Lowkey

Upd only sucks for f2p who rolled monarch on igris

When he was meta meta

[primal igloo]

the only p2w thing in the upd are the skin bundles

you can't even buy monarch tokens

which you could in previous updates

sjw is a guaranteed obtainment method in a few days

it took me nearly 2 months to get gogeta

[gaunt otter]

Just unfortunate nothing for igris since it’s a duo unit

[spark kelp]

fuck trying to get Gogeta atp

[primal igloo]

he gets a 4x buff in the new dungeon

[gaunt otter]

I think anyone will suffice for a small dmg buff

Or just like let him evo into it too

They should try to keep secrets in meta

[primal igloo]

questline would need a complete remake

[gaunt otter]

Igris is probably the only raw dps secret I can think of

Others are good bc of passives

Except valentine

[spark kelp]

Ragna's pure DPS

[gaunt otter]

Yeah try using 1 ragna

Let me know how that goes

[gaunt otter]

Questline could stay the same

[primal igloo]

Valentine did not deserve his fate but the balancer is against buffing old units like that

[gaunt otter]

But just for the people who want to go the xtra step

[spark kelp]

devs should buff him

[still tulip]

bump

[gaunt otter]

Can transfer the monarch

[spark kelp]

or give him a vanguard evo

[primal igloo]

No he won't get a buff, the closest thing they were comfortable with was fixing the thing where his clones cost money

now they no longer do

[spark kelp]

Have it so you can either place his clones down or summon them on the track

[gaunt otter]

Uh but I yeah

Just add some

That can do something with monarch igris

Doesn’t even have to be accurate or revamp

Cuz icl IGRIS and valentine have no use

And now there’s 2 igris ingame

[spark kelp]

Valentine needs more focus

[gaunt otter]

And unlike salter and saber

They are both meta

[spark kelp]

mf shouldnt be the worst unit in the game

[gaunt otter]

Stretch

[spark kelp]

no stretch, he's useless

[gaunt otter]

This thread has become huge holy

3.4K messages

The real meta duo unit

🤤

[spark kelp]

quad unique vegito needs to be real

[gaunt otter]

no

[spark kelp]

yes*

[dusky merlin]

gng

his summons can crit

deadeye might just be the second or best trait on him

[signal arch]

Things to do if your unprepared for jinwoo double evo

Grind for winter event
It's the best way to get 30 myths

Igris you have to grind for a week sit on a crusty chair

[coarse thicket]

literally this

[empty herald]

bump

[uneven pelican]

Lmao just bc the one you wanted never got added doesn't mean they doesn't care about the community
Igris is fine buff could work but there's isn't really need to be done or rework on igris bc his literally on sjw ability now that makes them duo together

Buff would work but there's really nothing to do w rework on igris

[void current]

https://tenor.com/view/pfft-erobb-stubbies-try-not-to-laugh-gif-16095012407725024477

monarch igris havers stay losing

[uneven pelican]

I got monarch igris and I'd say his really good along side w my monarch sjw

[void rampart]

Shut up dxl💔

[void current]

🤬

[earnest lance]

then why dont they add animes the community wannts?

devs alr said they doing animes they want

[void rampart]

Nah they alr dong that

But there are too many

They have to catch the hype for new gens tho

The onlys that they never hear about us are diavolo and many other comestics that havent been fixed

[earnest lance]

they coulda done so many other animes for a .5 but they choose a part 2 and introduce 1 character

[gaunt otter]

Right

[earnest lance]

out of the ENTIRE solo leveling series

1 character

[gaunt otter]

These devs are allergic to neiche animes

[void rampart]

Ye peoples were not just expect for sjw

Also igris

[earnest lance]

• solo leveling is so mid

[void rampart]

And vro

We got only one useful unit in this upd

[gaunt otter]

Rs

[earnest lance]

2

[gaunt otter]

Nobody wanted the flame guy

[earnest lance]

sjw and frieeren

[gaunt otter]

People wanted buffed igris

[void rampart]

And the flame guy plus fieren their comestics are so bun

That we have complained time by time

Giving us weapon is enough

And fieren's just disappeared of no where

[gaunt otter]

This has to be the most overrated upd yet

[void rampart]

And it give us only her clothes same with flame guy

[gaunt otter]

If the devs didn’t have those 3 cutscenes this would’ve been the worst update

[void rampart]

I also expect the diavolo tittle tho

Bro has a worse fate than a secret unit

For 0.005%

[earnest lance]

they added igiris, cha in to thhe game just to die in the next update of av

av release all were meta

update 1

dog shit uniits

[gaunt otter]

They power crept so hard

[earnest lance]

thge nerf for igiris wasnt evcen needed

[gaunt otter]

Then they talk about some all units balanced cuz of passives

[earnest lance]

0.75 for him and monarch was perfect for him

[prime ivy]

might aswell just give players 1k rerolls

[gaunt otter]

Who’s complaining

[prime ivy]

no one told u to reroll on igris

unless u got the monarch from the start of the game

people just assumed that it would be either double trait

or

[gaunt otter]

Start of game

[prime ivy]

u choose one

[void rampart]

He was meta duh

Who i gonna roll in upd 0

Obito?

Naruto?

[gaunt otter]

They literally made igris meta for 1 update

Power crept him

NERFED him

And now he is food

[void rampart]

Sasuke monarch?

Sounds great

[gaunt otter]

Igris has fallen

For a secret too

[earnest lance]

igiris was doing 130k full aoe and like 50% boss dmg

b4 nerf

[prime ivy]

nah if u had igirs monarch from the start

then sure

[gaunt otter]

No

[prime ivy]

but

half of the people who reacted

[earnest lance]

with monarch

[prime ivy]

have just recently rerolled on him

[gaunt otter]

I literally had him with monarch

And all buffs

[uneven pelican]

Uh they actually released 3 sjw double Evo, choi jong, and frieren

[prime ivy]

cuz they thoight he would be used with his monarch

[gaunt otter]

And bro maxed at 109k

[uneven pelican]

Aren't that enough for 0.5?

[earnest lance]

noiw he does like 60 k

[earnest lance]

1 double evo and thats sjw

[uneven pelican]

You want them to release full anime series unit on 0.5?

[prime ivy]

why yall complaining he came out 4 updates ago ofc hes not gonna be meta anymore

this is how it is with any game

[earnest lance]

a .5 isnt worth 1 new solo leveling unit

[gaunt otter]

Demon slayer raid better

[prime ivy]

u got monarch

and now u cant use him

u can still use him

[uneven pelican]

Actually ass

[prime ivy]

but hes not meta

[earnest lance]

it was the nerf they gave him

[prime ivy]

imma suprise you... it was also 3 units!!!!

[gaunt otter]

3 units

Not two and an evo

[uneven pelican]

U can't nerf monarch trait

[earnest lance]

they nerfed igiris as a whole

[prime ivy]

you do realize u got 3 units with 3 passives instead of 3 units with 1 that has 3 passive and the other 2 having only 2?

[earnest lance]

they shit on his passives and his dmg

[gaunt otter]

Devs never liked igris tbh

[prime ivy]

and all 3 units are meta unlike the demon slayer raid

[gaunt otter]

Ppl just say anything is meta atp

[prime ivy]

but they are?

we finally got a good wind unit

[uneven pelican]

Everything is meta w monarch

[gaunt otter]

Valentine

[prime ivy]

and choi is best or 2nd best fire unit

[gaunt otter]

Igris

[prime ivy]

and then u got sjw

[gaunt otter]

2nd best

That’s not meta

☠️

Especially for burn units

[void rampart]

Karem does exist buddy

[gaunt otter]

Nobody is using Choi

[void rampart]

Rengoku does exist buddy

[earnest lance]

the one main thing i hate abt av

[prime ivy]

kareem is good only with a freeze and thats barely

rengoku sucks

[void rampart]

Choi is absolute ass

[prime ivy]

no one uses him in torniments for a reason

[earnest lance]

is 99% of their meta units are locked behind a 1 in 10k wall

[violet beacon]

new fire unit?

[prime ivy]

he does 50% of his dmg as burn and it gets reset everytime he attack and it gets buffed everytime he attacks

[gaunt otter]

I promise u NOBODY will use Choi

[prime ivy]

thats legit the most fire damage we've gotten

[void rampart]

Sound not better than full aoe dps and free flame buff

[gaunt otter]

Mythic sjw has more use than Choi

[prime ivy]

thats why i said yamamoto is better

and rengoku's flame buff

is at upg 9 or 10

and hes expensive

not worth it

[gaunt otter]

Nobody is using Choi bro

[prime ivy]

sure

[spark kelp]

Choy seems like a good DPS unit

[gaunt otter]

Nobody will use Choi over Yama

[void rampart]

Nobody is using choi unless there is a fire tournament

[gaunt otter]

💔

[void rampart]

But rather than using him imma just use jogo

Lol

[void current]

[earnest lance]

crazya how av bleach update made me quit a4 and play av

solo leveling part 2 made me quit av and go to a4

[void current]

a4?

a4 bond paper?

[void rampart]

Aa

You stupid

[earnest lance]

i wasnnt sure if the work was blocked

[void current]

dont call me stupid

anyways

igris is buns

Anyone wanna make a "Can we do something with naruto" 🗣️

[void rampart]

"naruto is a mc he will have evo, unlike sasuke"

Vanguard naruto

That require minato with 0.75% drop from legen stage

Sound great

[earnest lance]

i have no cllue waht to grind in av i quiot the game fforever ago

[narrow monolith]

dont play

[ember girder]

Do salter and yhwach

Don't need much else

Maybe like ichigo and aizen

But really yhwach with good supps can solo almost all the content ingame

You come late for most good supps too

Maybe like a crocodile would do good

[prime ivy]

dumbasses whne a 0.5 update(which is somehow better than the aa update) has only 3 units 💔

[prime ivy]

lmao bros quitting cuz he has monarch on igris and cant use it

grow up

[earnest lance]

i never said I was quitting 😭😭

im grindsing ts rn

u look silly

[prime ivy]

^^^^

lmao

what

u legit said it

right here

[ember girder]

I'm sure it was joke its alr

[earnest lance]

guess what im doing rrn

grindiong av

u idiot

[earnest lance]

u srsly think i would quit av when im 3 updates behind?

goofball

[ember girder]

Why cant we all just hold hands and do little hops in a circle

[primal igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-worm-cat-worm-catworm-ai-generated-gif-11758626355945811640

[earnest lance]

i get s-s-s-SCARED when im stressed 🥺🥺

[granite breach]

@tawny cedar idc abt the igris thing anymore

I got monarch on my sjw so Im good now

[gaunt otter]

Bias final boss

[granite breach]

Haha

Wish they still would do smth abt all the monarch igris tho

[narrow monolith]

😦

got the one worst trait on him

[lost sapphire]

isnt etheral the best

[narrow monolith]

Nah deadeye is

his summons scale with enemy hp so

the passive ones

the active ones scale on his dmg

[plush bobcat]

I have deadeye and monarch song who should i evo?

[frigid fulcrum]

gogeta

[plush bobcat]

Evo gogeta

Ok

[lost sapphire]

i rolled that

yo

im acctually gonna get mad

[narrow monolith]

Monarch is better for short runs

deadeye for inf

evo both 🤷

[lost sapphire]

is 30 seconds the max for press it

chat

[narrow monolith]

nope

[spark kelp]

ngl Frieren seems kinda mid

Her ability seems annoying to manage

[copper ridge]

solid even if you don';t manage the skill to much

just get some chest buffs and shes chilling

2x dmg against overshield is huge

[spark kelp]

I guess, however I don’t have a problem taking down over-shield enemies

[copper ridge]

Shes only really meta in tourneys and mabye future boss rushs

Otherwise theres better options

[quick osprey]

bump

[severe condor]

Pre evo sjw with deadeye still better

He just outdmgs bro by too much

Especially late inf game

[copper ridge]

I heard that evo sjw summons scale off enemy hp

[severe condor]

Where the mfs have 20million hp

[copper ridge]

Sooooooo

[severe condor]

Even if they do he summons less

Just being both lowkey

[copper ridge]

How much?

[severe condor]

Those 2 with gazelles and Yama would be crazy

[copper ridge]

Well yeah that too

[severe condor]

Every summon takes mana/ he regents 3 mana every kill he gets

[copper ridge]

Hmmmm

I thought it was every kill not only him

He regens mana

[severe condor]

So you basically need him monarch and on weakest for him to be as good as old sjw evo

Each special shadow takes 40 mana

And they scale with mana

And each nuke use is 100% of mana

Which basically means just use old sjw with deadeye

Which is same dmg if not more but more simple and less of a hassle

Atleast that’s my understanding of it

[copper ridge]

It seems old sjw is better but im not to in depth with the meta and starts and what not

[severe condor]

Also for him to continuously summon you have to toggle it

[copper ridge]

Ill let the people who min max this stuff decide that

[severe condor]

Which means as long as he’s continuously summoning like Yama does he will never nuke

Bc every time he summons it costs more mana than he regents, and if you get a nuke off you can’t summon anymore

[copper ridge]

All i know is that hes crazy for progressive modes

[severe condor]

You’re basically picking between pure dps or dps support

O

Just got the new flame unit

Tragic that he’s mid

Can’t beat yamagoat

[copper ridge]

He looks good

From passive

[severe condor]

Nah

Shit ass fire unit

Whole point of flame units is for them to synergize

[copper ridge]

But looks like he gets outclassed by frieren in terms of basic dps

[severe condor]

They gave us one who doesn’t synergize with any of them

💀

[copper ridge]

The intense burn doesn’t synergize?

[severe condor]

Not from what I’ve read

[copper ridge]

If not thats just dumb

[severe condor]

So his intense burn doesn’t stack

[copper ridge]

It stacks but its weaker per stack no?

[severe condor]

Uh

No

Just does not stack

First passive

[copper ridge]

I don’t really remember his passives

[severe condor]

💀

Yeah idk

[copper ridge]

Like if he hits a enemy with intense burn he will re apply

And increase the dmg by 10%

[severe condor]

Devs said he’s busted but these the same devs that think shit ass units are busted so

No

He just resets the burn duration

And makes it tick faster

[copper ridge]

Oh really?

[severe condor]

It doesn’t stack

Yeah

[copper ridge]

Can u send passive rq

[severe condor]

So technically he could apply infinite burn

But his spa isn’t fast enough

[copper ridge]

What does it matter if the multiplers don’t stack though

[severe condor]

And everytime he attacks and enemy the burn ticks speed up

[severe condor]

Idfk dawg

[copper ridge]

Seems kinda usless

I thought he increased the intense burn dmg everytine he attacked

But ig not

[severe condor]

Ok so my understanding

Remember I’m illiterate

But

Instead of normal burn he applies intense burn

[copper ridge]

Yeah

[severe condor]

Which deals 50% of his dmg in 10 seconds

[copper ridge]

Yes

[severe condor]

If he attacks the same enemy the burn resets so the timer goes back to 10 and the dmg he deals is increased by 10% up to 50%

Everytime he attacks and enemy with intense burn already on said enemy the burn ticks speed up for 3 seconds

And every enemy with intense burn on the field he gets 5% range up to 40%

[copper ridge]

So the 10% increase is not burn dmg or sum?

[severe condor]

Which technically means he could do infinite amounts of dmg with burn

If you cc and stun the enemy enough times for him to continuously hit them

My understanding is it’s basically sokora but with more range and you have to continuously hit the enemy

[copper ridge]

But doesn’t it have a max timer of 10?

[severe condor]

But idk how accurate that is

Yes

[copper ridge]

And he just brings the timer back to 10

[severe condor]

So every attack the timer goes back to 10

Yes

It doesn’t stack

[copper ridge]

So how would that be inf burn though

[severe condor]

So he’s doing 50% of his dmg in ten seconds and every attack he does on the same enemy the timer resets back to 10

Which is infinite 50% of his dmg so long as he keeps attack the enemy

That’s my understanding of it

[copper ridge]

Oh i misunderstood

I thought u litterly meant inf burn

[severe condor]

Well

It’s basically that

As long as he keeps attacking

[copper ridge]

Yeah

[severe condor]

But idk what the difference between intense burn and normal burn is

Or if they stack off each other

Which I don’t think they do

Considering his shit doesn’t stack

Basically he’s a burn boss kill unit

💀

[copper ridge]

Can’t normal burn already dot that though? Aslong as the unit keeps attacking rhey apply burn no?

[severe condor]

If Kareem is the burn support unit this mf is the burn boss kill and Yama is the hybrid

[severe condor]

Yeah but only 25%

[copper ridge]

But it stacks

[severe condor]

And I’m assuming burn just does less overall dmg

Than intense burn

[copper ridge]

Probably

[severe condor]

Honestly don’t know

Only burn I know that actually stacks is obito

The others I got no idea

💀

[copper ridge]

His base numbers don’t seem high enough to make him a crazy dps unit imo

[copper ridge]

I thought all burn stacks

[severe condor]

Idk

[copper ridge]

Then again i never used a burn unit

[severe condor]

Maybe it does

Shit me neither

[gaunt otter]

it does

[severe condor]

Only burn unit I’ve ever used is sukuna/yama/obito

[coarse thicket]

fuck burn units

[gaunt otter]

all burn stacks

[severe condor]

And the only one I know stacks is obito

[severe condor]

Oh ok

[gaunt otter]

burn units are mid anyways tho lol

except yama

[severe condor]

So basically new fire unit is the Aizen/boss killer of the burn untis

Kareem is the support

[coarse thicket]

i actually hate all burns for some reason

[severe condor]

And Yama is the hybrid

Basically it

[severe condor]

Cuz they made the burn mechanic horrendous

[gaunt otter]

yeah but nobody will use choi

i promise

[coarse thicket]

even in aa i hated them

[severe condor]

Atleast they did justice to my boy yamagoat

[severe condor]

Never played midventures

So idk what that mechanic is over there

[gaunt otter]

100% burn

[coarse thicket]

yama is my goat but i don’t think he’s worth the grind

i cba

[gaunt otter]

• relic that double burn time

and you can stack burn on your own burn

[severe condor]

I got him monarch

This mf

So op

It’s dumb

[gaunt otter]

aa burn system sucks

[severe condor]

Yeah Thai sounds dumb

Anyways he’ll probably be insane

For burn tournaments

Anything else I just don’t see bro cooking

Anyways justice for Igris

My goat deserves his double evo

I die on this hill

[misty bobcat]

So their point is (you can evo sjw into sjw + igris) but you cant (evo igris to igris + sjw) or atleast igris himself alone

thats quite smart

[void rampart]

"sjw is a mc" ahh moment

[misty bobcat]

Sjw being mc and people want igris more quite funny

he's just have more aura

like aizen

nobody cares about that ichigo when there's such aura farmer himself aizen

[misty bobcat]

🤨

[obsidian mantle]

um, what..?

ichigo has a lot of hype

igris does not

Igris is boring and pointless

[misty bobcat]

and so ichigo

1 move shikai

1 move bankai king

who even cares about him

[ember girder]

Id genuinely end up on the news if i had to evo two sjw

[lost sapphire]

getting a second igris is harder than quest line hands down

[copper ridge]

Just wait for igirs boss rush on wedsnday

[lost sapphire]

but i need it nowwww

[copper ridge]

Patience brother

Grinding for a eztra copt of igris now is nonsense

[lost sapphire]

igris still usefull when he got monarch

[gaunt otter]

Is it even worth grinding live event until u get 3 ascension Giselle

[icy vector]

nope

You’ll never actually upgrade Giselle for dps

Doesn’t it take like 30 years to get enough Giselle

[lost sapphire]

900 more shdaows

im so close to freedom

[still tulip]

🙏

[proud juniper]

Did they patched the bug where you can js turn on auto ability after the match ended?

[dusky merlin]

I’m tired of people saying jinwoo is mid, he is one of if not the best unit without monarch and a must have in any endgame content due to his scalings and damage potential.

[lost sapphire]

idk

ive js been doing inf

i cant be bothered to try andg et press it

[dusky merlin]

Gng you gotta hurry up I already got deadeye on mine and u haven’t even gotten him 🙏

[lost sapphire]

i rolled deadeye on him💔

[dusky merlin]

That’s a good thing

Deadeye > ethereal

On him

[lost sapphire]

i dont accept anything but monarch

including fortune

[copper ridge]

How so?

[dusky merlin]

Atp get monarch on gogeta not sjw

[dusky merlin]

Summons can crit

[copper ridge]

Ohhhhhhhh

That makes alot of sense now

[dusky merlin]

It gets insane when all your summons are 140k+ in rifts

Critting for 200k+

[lost sapphire]

id rather be struck by lighting than grind for gogeta

[copper ridge]

I just got the key today
I am now subjected to killing beru 50 times

[dusky merlin]

He was made for endgame content

[copper ridge]

To be fair you can atleast afk grind gogeta

[dusky merlin]

His hp scaling is ridiculous and he trivializes all endgame content

[copper ridge]

Yeah looks like it

Did you ever figure out the scaling?

[dusky merlin]

You can solo salter just placing 3 of him down setting to arise and afking

Maxing him out of course

[dusky merlin]

It’s split

I think

I don’t know exactly how it scales but attack must apply a separate multiplier

On top of the hp scaling

[copper ridge]

I thought it was based on his mana bar + enemy hp

Ill have to lab out when i get him next week ig

[dusky merlin]

Monarch increases hp

I know that much

[copper ridge]

Even the arise summons?

[dusky merlin]

I also know the devs were lying when they posted the screenshot of iron having 1mil hp and saying it was blitz

[dusky merlin]

If it didn’t monarch would be useless on him

Think about it

His arise summons is his best mode

[copper ridge]

🤷

[dusky merlin]

His other summons are completely useless except for maybe iron without monarch

Sad to see

Well not completely useless for story and stuff where enemies don’t have much hp

Just don’t scale well

[gaunt otter]

Do they share mana bar

If not then deadeye would be best imo

Unless u wanna nuke with him ig???

[lost sapphire]

oh yeah

what do his attacks do

[gaunt otter]

300% 600% and 1000% percent nukes

One time use each

[round haven]

400% for the first one
not 300%

[gaunt otter]

Forgot whoops

[plucky shoal]

;-;

[narrow monolith]

Id say deadeye is better for the summons and sjw in general

Monarch is cost efficient,but deadeye let's sjw make full use of his passive

One issue with deadeye is the nuke,which is global

So it rlly comes down to how u want to use him

[pure willow]

like the arise thingy where he summons dead enemies?

[narrow monolith]

In inf,deadeye is 100% better bcuz the passive arise enemies scale with enemy hp

[narrow monolith]

Yeaaaa and he can summon better shadows with mana

[pure willow]

ngl ill still keep monarch on him

[narrow monolith]

Ye obv

[pure willow]

4m hp steel and 3m beru is insane

[narrow monolith]

. Monarch is the best trait

[pure willow]

and his nuke does 12m in the raid, it can one shot ant king

[narrow monolith]

Yea

[pure willow]

i just wish they add auto summon thing for his shadows so i dont have to go in the menu everytime

[lavish creek]

I'm like 99% sure he does

[pure willow]

i could test it ngl but im too lazy to do so

[lavish creek]

I.loojed at some showcases

His arise ability

The base one you can toggle

Scales with hp

I'm 99% sure

Tank and Beru and the others are dmg based like old shadow knights

[pure willow]

i just use it first few upgrades for the passive dmg then i do bear + steel and when hes max i just spam healer + beru

first 2 nukes for bosses and final nuke last wave boss

and gotta do esdeath ability before u use nukes

for 2x dmg

[lavish creek]

His attacks are nukes right?

It's kinda hard to tell with the cutscene playing and stuff

[plush bobcat]

Wish in solo leveling part 3 update we recive 2nd evo for cha in

[dusky merlin]

it fully scales off enemy hp? so monarch is useless for it?

[gaunt otter]

monarch is good for the nukes

[dusky merlin]

missed the question

[gaunt otter]

im js sayng monarch isnt useless

cuz of the nukes

[narrow monolith]

nah his active summons like beru scale on his dmg

but the passive summons,which r so op btw

[dusky merlin]

missed the question again...

[narrow monolith]

nah

monarch isnt

monarch is way better in other modes

[gaunt otter]

im pretty sure they dont full scale off enemy hp

[gaunt otter]

i heard its only 10%

[dusky merlin]

im talking the arise enemies only

nothing else

[narrow monolith]

yea

[gaunt otter]

i could be wrong tho idk

[narrow monolith]

they scale on enemy hp

[dusky merlin]

all the other summons are useless in scaled content

good

deadeye is his best trait

[gaunt otter]

for inf

[narrow monolith]

nah

[dusky merlin]

not only for inf

[narrow monolith]

even this dungeon

bcuz

his 2nd passive

[gaunt otter]

💔

[narrow monolith]

needs multiple of him

[gaunt otter]

obviously bro

[narrow monolith]

u can utilise all his passives with 3 sjw's

[dusky merlin]

took him into a rift and deadeye allowed him to spam 150k summons monarch would never let him do that

[unborn atlas]

this is an amazing addition and everyone who disagrees is doodoobutts

GET TS TO 2000 STARS

[gaunt otter]

like arise summons?

[narrow monolith]

gosh i hope they dont make so many complicated units like him

its so tough to manage 3 sjw's at the same time

[dusky merlin]

arise summons are just superior

[gaunt otter]

ngl there was 0 purpose to add those active summons bro

only useful one is tank

i mean iron

[dusky merlin]

they blatantly lied with iron

[narrow monolith]

beru is solid aswll

[dusky merlin]

he does NOT get 1mil with blitz

[narrow monolith]

😭

[dusky merlin]

nobody is calling them out on this either which is crazy

does giselle buff all his summons btw? dont have her yet

[gaunt otter]

yeah they just keep glazing the unit

and telling youtubers to spread that word

then everyone gets wrong idea on him

[dusky merlin]

he is overpowered asf

but not for the reason you think

[gaunt otter]

yeah thats what i mean

[dusky merlin]

for any endgame content I will bring him no matter what

he scales so fucking well

[boreal mantle]

can someone explain how deadeye is better then monarch in terms of summons

or i got it wrong

[gaunt otter]

they scale of enemy hp

not monarch

and they crit

[dusky merlin]

arise summons scale off enemy hp and not attack

and crit yuh

[boreal mantle]

what about the three main summon

[dusky merlin]

also they need to rework belu familiar lol its completley useless for jinwoo

[dusky merlin]

3 main summons are trash

[gaunt otter]

yeah those scale off of your dmg

but thers 0 use for them

actually iron isnt that bad

just place 1

and let him sit there

[dusky merlin]

for story and low tier content you can get some use out of em

[boreal mantle]

wait so like 3 sjw can summon 3 times the ammount?

[gaunt otter]

yes

they dont share mana bars

[primal igloo]

🤔

[boreal mantle]

even enemy summons?

[gaunt otter]

actually

idk what would be more worth

monarch or deadeye

[dusky merlin]

now tell us how you achieved this

what external buffs

to artificially inflate it

[brittle sorrel]

Does sjw vanguard get stunned?

[dusky merlin]

no

[gaunt otter]

yes

[gaunt otter]

no?

[boreal mantle]

?

[brittle sorrel]

What 😭