Limited second evolutions for older units

[still dagger]

thank god

[pearl pumice]

foolish clown

[tender panther]

youre actually coping

fuck out of here

[eternal crescent]

GRRIIFFFFFIIITHHHH

[tender panther]

pmo

[pearl pumice]

poster will do anything but accept he made a bad suggestion

[hot herald]

Gave you a good argument the first hour this suggestion was made and you said I was throwing a temper tantrum. 😭 keep coping with your dogshit suggestion

[half flax]

this dude got shamed out of his own suggestion

[eternal crescent]

The only griffith who's actions ill agree with

[tender panther]

alright bro

ive bought 10 gons

and havent gotten one cosmic

[still dagger]

this dude is increasing my screen time
ts pmo

[half flax]

😭

[still dagger]

top 5 worst threads oat

[empty haven]

bump

[pearl pumice]

don;t delete this thread

we must keep this as a reminder

[still dagger]

this or buff alucard

[molten agate]

There's been worse

[pearl pumice]

just like that one alucard thread

[half flax]

the alucard thread is so braindead istg

I hate the op

[still dagger]

god i wanna make the worst or all time vs the worst of today thing so bad

[pearl pumice]

what are actually the worst threads of oat tho

[still dagger]

buff alucard

this

[pearl pumice]

ok thats 2

[still dagger]

secret pity for sure

[pearl pumice]

i only remember

[still dagger]

my one low-key bad too💔
#1340092051592839178

[pearl pumice]

one that asked to make ragna work with monarch and No sjw double evo as a seperete unit

[molten agate]

Thats a good suggestion

[empty haven]

maid saber alter

[still dagger]

just me arguing with many people tho

in terms of threads

[still dagger]

peak

[pearl pumice]

like the one that asked to not make sjw a double evo was horrendious

bro got banned

[pearl pumice]

💔

[empty haven]

i forgot about this one

[pearl pumice]

your so right

[empty haven]

lol

[brittle nebula]

[empty haven]

neco arc familiar

[brittle nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1344390742436483197/1347520746372599869/ezgif-1e98bd7ea49bb8.gif

[still dagger]

yes

bump mine instead 💜💜 #1347716001604571136

[orchid palm]

bump mine #1348395292826796123

[limber heron]

#1326211360970903643

suggestion thats actually gonna be worth your time

[pearl pumice]

How’d you send a link

Bro does stinky red role not let me send links or sum

[molten agate]

#1326211360970903643

🙀

It didnt let me some weeks ago

[still dagger]

no idea why that’s been censored but

[grand sphinx]

To prevent spamming

Cus u can make messages bigger using that

[still dagger]

ah

[pearl pumice]

Ohhhhhhh

Ty 🙏

[empty haven]

knew chatgpt would have our back 🙏

always keepin it real

[stone knoll]

Since you deliberately decided to avoid some of the points I made to make yourself be in the right

Can't wait for yall to clown chat gpt as well

[grand sphinx]

Bruh

[molten agate]

Bruh

[grand sphinx]

Nobody tryna read that 😭

[molten agate]

Why do u want them to be limited

Is there any reason

[stone knoll]

Mainly point 2 and point 5

Last thing I'll answer cuz ima go to sleep

[pearl pumice]

At this point just send the prompts

[molten agate]

Ic

[pearl pumice]

Cause why are we getting 2 different answers from chat gpt

[heavy acorn]

I’ll send mine 1 sec

Didn’t give chat any incentive to side with me. Only gave it the messages from this thread.

[pearl pumice]

And I’m guessing the txt file is just the entire log of this thread?

[heavy acorn]

Mhm 👍

If you want extra confirmation that I didn’t tamper with chat for bias, I can send the log over dm :D

[pearl pumice]

I’m guessing the poster of this thread put a prompt like, “why is FOMO” good for a game

Or something similar to that

I don’t know why we are still trying to prove FOMO is a good thing

[heavy acorn]

Wouldn’t be too far fetched since it’s easy to make chat say anything (depending on the prompt)

[heavy acorn]

Same 😭 like I get why it exists, I won’t lose sleep over not having every unit. But it makes no sense for evolutions, can’t wrap my head around it

[pearl pumice]

And actually reading what his chat says, it’s a load of nothing burger pretty much. The only point that should be taken note of is point 3

It says stuff like FOMO is gacha game standard when it is also standard to hate on FOMO mechanics

[heavy acorn]

Yep. Just bc it’s “standard” doesn’t make it good

[pearl pumice]

And it repeats what he was saying which was it boosts player engagement

He still is gonna keep ignoring every point of the argument and keep coping cause his head is to far up his ass

[orchid palm]

Do you got gogeta? Cuz i still dont have him

[heavy acorn]

nah man 🫠 I'm ~700k-1m presents deep I think? Might never get him atp but i'll keep trying until he leaves

[orchid palm]

Same. I wish you luck

[pearl pumice]

Gonna write an essay on FOMO in gacha games for an school assignment will send to poster later

[orchid palm]

Ngl there is always and will always be fomo

Sad they even added it in LOL

[pearl pumice]

Yes it’s horrible that it’s been a standardized practice

[heavy acorn]

Include star rail in your essay too if that castorice shit goes live 💀

[pearl pumice]

Unfortunately that’s like the only hoyo game I haven’t played, I’ve heard a bit about it via tectones vids

[heavy acorn]

It used to be so good man. But other than the story you're really not missing much 😔 (quit at amphoreus, now I play wuwa instead!)

[empty haven]

there's no way that gets past the beta hoyo CANNOT be that desperate 💔

[flint talon]

R we shit talking about castorice?

[hardy kelp]

@empty haven do you play the game?

@pearl pumice check dms

[pearl pumice]

?

[still dagger]

how is your point about trading when you have zero clue of values or when trading is even releasing?

how do you know that a a release exclusive unit will be the same value as one who just came out

and your point is still so stupid

literally all your points are about trading

this isn’t aa bro
you have no idea how it’s even gonna work

[azure kettle]

mmm

i like the idea of limited double evos

i mean if you miss it you could always just trade for it just like normal exclusives

[heavy acorn]

Hey @stone knoll . We still need to see the prompt of your chatGPT to ensure there was no bias on other side. If your prompt even remotely says “Tell them why FOMO is good” or “give me reasons why my suggestion is good”, or even antagonizes us I.e “the dumb kids on the other side just won’t understand,” then your SS is invalid. If you want further confirmation that I didn’t bias my chat, I can send you my “output.txt” over dm when I get to a stopping point

[heavy acorn]

Screw that. I’m fine with exclusivity (I.e limited secrets and exclusives) but double exclusivity for the sake of it is ridiculous. This will just make the black market stronger and increase reliance on trade should it come out. AD’s fall is a PRIME example of the consequences of that. Av should be a game first, gacha second, and trading outpost third.

[azure kettle]

whats the difference between a limited time double evolve unit and a normal exclusive unit

if you miss them just trade for them like normal limiteds, js dk why everyone seems so agaisnt this

[still dagger]

making that limited double evo exclusive into a meta evo will just be fomo content which isn’t ideal
why not just make an obtainable double evo so all players can have it
and if it’s exclusive it’ll be tradable

[azure kettle]

same thing applies to Vanguards and all other limited units no?

why make meta limited characters, itd be better to make it permanent so all players can have it

same argument applies there

[still dagger]

not the same thing
if you make someone like rengoku into a double even NOW
a lot of people will miss out on it so what’s even the point

why do it to an older unit?

and why am exclusive one

it’s stupid

[azure kettle]

i dont think he mentioned anything about exclusive units getting a double evolve later on

[still dagger]

“limited second evolutions for older units”

[azure kettle]

i dont agree with them turning vanguard tho, thats stupid

[heavy acorn]

Tf kind of question is this.

Once a normal exclusive is gone it’s gone. As for limited double evo, the base form will just be sitting in your inventory like a rock, likely unusable for any content that isn’t story.

[heavy acorn]

This part disregards why trading shouldn’t be relied on (too heavily)

[azure kettle]

then just ignore it its not like you need every unit in the first place

[still dagger]

i don’t even like the idea of trading
it ruined aa

[heavy acorn]

I’ll ignore it if the devs are smart and the unit isn’t Meta OR content isn’t balanced around them.

But if it’s meta? Might as well chase it, because thousands of players will. Not going after the hypothetical double evo actively makes your account weaker and then you’ll fall behind.

Too much fomo = quit, because an endlessly widening gap between the rich and the poor, the strong and the weak is created.

[still dagger]

exactly

fomo ruins it

[azure kettle]

then its the same thing but better no? if you miss an exclusive you'll never have it until you get it via trading. If you miss a double evo atleast you still have the base unit in your inventory kek

[empty haven]

these people don't want a game, they want a shitty simulator-esque experience where they get to show off the new shiny thing they "grinded" for

[heavy acorn]

ONG 😭

[azure kettle]

i mean my main team still has units from release, newest meta units arent a must unless you want to run lb

and limited time evos seem cool to me atleast

[pearl pumice]

Just stick to regular limited units and events

Nothing cool with adding more limited content

[azure kettle]

you have your opinion, i have mine. Different preferences of what's fun and not to grind for

already said why idm it so have a nice day

ill go do sum else

[pearl pumice]

It’s an objective opinion, adding more FOMO will lead to the downfall of this game

[empty haven]

vanguards already border on bad FOMO enough as it is why we tryna double down on it

[azure kettle]

noone said that these double evos are gonna be hard to gerind for

[pearl pumice]

Then even time gate them

Why not just make them permanent content

[azure kettle]

whats a couple units missed out on gonna do

im still using sjw from release

[pearl pumice]

Some people may really like those units they missed out on

[azure kettle]

and it works for me just fine, the game doesnt need you to have thenewest units

[pearl pumice]

Mabye those units are meta

[azure kettle]

thats what trading is for i suppose.

[empty haven]

watch him say "well you can trade for them so it's fine"

there it is

[pearl pumice]

lol

[azure kettle]

am i wrong?

[pearl pumice]

We love trading!

[azure kettle]

i expect you would trade for what you want right?

[pearl pumice]

Fix bad game design with more bad game design

I despise trading

[azure kettle]

are you running lb?

[empty haven]

i would if i didn't loathe trading with all my heart

[azure kettle]

if not then thats not really an issue

[dull field]

"A vanguard material to make a secret unit a vanguard on second evo would be a good idea as well" 💔

[azure kettle]

as i said before you don't need the newest and best units to play end game content

[azure kettle]

i disagreed with that point

[empty haven]

the problem with trading is that it's so much more difficult for a newer player to navigate through instead of just rerunning the characters or not making them limited content in the first place

[pearl pumice]

I just hate that people only play the game for the sole purpose of trading accounts/units for money
I can’t blame them because money is money but what happened to just playing games for the love of it💔

[empty haven]

i also just think it doesn't belong in any self-respecting game, it creates black markets and undermines the overall integrity of what AV seemingly aspires to be

[empty haven]

based leni

[azure kettle]

doesnt seem like they like the idea but thats them

[pearl pumice]

Safe to assume this has been indirectly declined

(If it already wasn’t obvious)

[azure kettle]

maybe

[empty haven]

im not tryna appeal to authority or anything but if a lead tester dislikes it then you know it's bad

[eternal crescent]

11:41, hard ratio

[lusty shell]

good idea poor execution if they are gonna add double evo make it permanent cuz its bs only for a limited why limited? would 100% be better if permanent

[golden basin]

why is this still active ???

[golden basin]

Als ahh