ADD LEGEND STAGES SECRET UNIT PITY/ADD LEGEND STAGES LUCK POTIONS

[cunning pilot]

So like

If the unit is a 1% drop, pity is 100 runs

[hollow smelt]

I can't see one good reason to see another person struggling to drop this and thinking they shouldn't get the unit

[cunning pilot]

Fr like why wouldn't you want bro to aid you with better support in the future

I fr gotta go to bed, gbye

[vestal coral]

in that case monarch pity should be 1000 instead of 2.5k

it should be 2.5x the runs to match up with monarch

[hollow smelt]

Monarch pity at 1k is still crazy

That's 650 USD

[vestal coral]

ok?

its 0.1%

[sterile surge]

Why tou putting ts everywhere bro

[vestal coral]

anything lower than 1000 would be insane

[vestal coral]

cuz i said its not a duo unit lol

hes putting it in all the suggestions ive talked in

[sterile surge]

Bro hes sending that same ss everywhere

😭😭

[vestal coral]

yea...

my bad...

[sterile surge]

Im advertising my suggestion

[vestal coral]

sam dont u dare

[hollow smelt]

Yeah but do you seriously think a single monarch trait in anime vanguards is worth 650 dollars

[vestal coral]

oh ok thank god

[vestal coral]

just... dont pay money...

[vestal coral]

god damn it

[sterile surge]

[sterile surge]

it is

[vestal coral]

its not though

there is no fusion happening

it doesnt take up 2 hotbar slots

[sterile surge]

yap

this says otherwise

[vestal coral]

hell, sjw evo non-vanguard and igris evo are closer to duo units than sjw vanguard

[twilit phoenix]

💀

[sterile surge]

errr

Sooo outdated

[vestal coral]

ok?

[sterile surge]

It was useful in lb runs like 4 updates ago

[vestal coral]

its still the closest thing we have to a duo unit in this game

[hollow smelt]

I'm just saying we shouldn't be comparing monarch pity to this

[vestal coral]

that doesnt mean its not a duo unit though

[sterile surge]

Err

[vestal coral]

i mean we gotta keep pities equal

[sterile surge]

There slike

[vestal coral]

same rates = no confusion

[sterile surge]

a million synergies

[hollow smelt]

No we don't

[sterile surge]

salter sakura

rengoku choi

gisselle sjw

[hollow smelt]

Although 250 runs of the stage is actually reasonable

[sterile surge]

I still think ts suggest is stupid tho

[hollow smelt]

I don't see that being a problem

[vestal coral]

i mean the only other thing close to that is sokora and salter, but thats not really a duo unit imo

[hollow smelt]

Rem and ram

[sterile surge]

oh u mean duo unit

Lmao

[vestal coral]

i think its good as long as its 2.5x the drop rate

[hollow smelt]

Is a duo unit

[vestal coral]

yea lmao

[sterile surge]

Bro

[vestal coral]

??

[sterile surge]

Duo unit

[vestal coral]

no

[sterile surge]

is so stupid

[vestal coral]

its not

[sterile surge]

Synergies bro synergies..

[hollow smelt]

There's two of them

Rem

And ram

[vestal coral]

duo unit means units that u have to place on the field that exclusively buff eachother or fuse together

[sterile surge]

So tuff

[vestal coral]

not that its just 2 people in 1 unit

[frozen jetty]

no?

[sterile surge]

Choso and sukuna boi

[hollow smelt]

Ah

[frozen jetty]

duo unit is two characters in 1 unit

[vestal coral]

yes?

[hollow smelt]

By that definition yes

[sterile surge]

^^

[vestal coral]

no?

[sterile surge]

Yes lmao

[frozen jetty]

it literally is

[sterile surge]

Ts so crazy

[vestal coral]

duo unit means they have synergies not that they are just one unit

[frozen jetty]

if it wasnt the word UNIT would be plural

[sterile surge]

Bro

[vestal coral]

hence you want the two of them on the same team

[frozen jetty]

pleae think before typing

[vestal coral]

like sjw and igris

non vanguard

[sterile surge]

sukuna choso. Choi rengoku

[vestal coral]

yea those are duo units

[sterile surge]

Tengen archer

[frozen jetty]

thats duo UNITS a team

[sterile surge]

Gogeta archer

[frozen jetty]

a duo UNIT is rem and ram /jinwoo and igris

[sterile surge]

true

very high iq individual

[vestal coral]

there is no such thing as a "duo unit" with that definiton, thats just a singular unit

there is only 1 attack that it does

[sterile surge]

Two units in one

[vestal coral]

hence it cant be two units

[vestal coral]

its not though

[sterile surge]

You literallt sacrifice igris to be with sjw

he has 3 nukes

[frozen jetty]

duo would signify its more than 1 character

[sterile surge]

IGRIS SJW AND DUO

[frozen jetty]

which they both are

[vestal coral]

ok?

[sterile surge]

Bro omfg

[twilit phoenix]

Reading this is giving me a stroke

[sterile surge]

LMAO UR BAITING

[vestal coral]

thats still just sjw's powers regardless

hence hes a solo unit

[sterile surge]

UR LITERALLY BAITING

LMAO NO WAY UR 1970 ALT BRO

[frozen jetty]

which is why i said UNIT and not UNITS

[vestal coral]

bro you are just giving the title duo units to one unit that coincidentally has 2 characters in it

[sterile surge]

😭😭 i thought u were on smth bro but ts stupid asf

[vestal coral]

thats not a duo unit

[hollow smelt]

It's one unit but two characters

[sterile surge]

i literally disproved ur claim and u just disagree

[vestal coral]

thats one unit with two characters in it

completely different

[sterile surge]

Brooo ts is so smart…

[frozen jetty]

are you actually sslow

[hollow smelt]

When I hear duo unit I think of that tho

Not units with synergy

[frozen jetty]

its almost like two characters form a DUO!?!

[vestal coral]

when i hear duo i think of something like a fusion in a run or units that have synergies but are different

not just one unit that has 2 characters in it

[hollow smelt]

Strange

Idk

[twilit phoenix]

His name has troll in it pls save your breath and drop it

[hollow smelt]

It's subjective

[sterile surge]

ahahahaha

[vestal coral]

cuz its not like its 2 movesets

[vestal coral]

there are no additional buffs

[sterile surge]

whahahahwhaha

[twilit phoenix]

People actually us that?

[sterile surge]

cgpt saves my essays

[vestal coral]

he is actually using ai as an argument...

[hollow smelt]

People use chat gpt all the time

[frozen jetty]

is english not your first language or something?

[sterile surge]

Im trollin with it kmao

our point still stands

ur stupid bro ts is so funny

[vestal coral]

explain how rem and ram have 2 different cooldowns and how their passives synergize with eachother

hint: they dont

cuz its 1 unit

with 2 characters in it

[frozen jetty]

yes its a DUO unit

rem and ram are quite litearlly a duo

[vestal coral]

there is no synergization or mid-run fusion happening

[frozen jetty]

and a unit

[vestal coral]

so its not a duo unit

[pastel nimbus]

I only use it for research 💀

[sterile surge]

Ion watch nor read rezero but theyre def doin sum

[frozen jetty]

it is a DUO UNIT

[vestal coral]

its duo characters, a mono unit

[sterile surge]

I only use when im late

[vestal coral]

if it was a duo unit it'd take up 2 hotbar slots

[frozen jetty]

its a duo.

[vestal coral]

but it doesnt

[frozen jetty]

rem AND ram

[sterile surge]

Google better for research sometimes cgpt got misinfo

its funny asl

[frozen jetty]

that would be duo UNITS

[sterile surge]

💔💔

[vestal coral]

yes, duo characters

[pastel nimbus]

Yeah

[vestal coral]

its just one unit

hence its a mono unit

[frozen jetty]

see how i added an S?

[pastel nimbus]

I ask it to link the source

[frozen jetty]

a mono unit would just be sunjinwoo alone

do you know what the word mono means LMAO

[sterile surge]

Omg bro

this duo unit is still going

[vestal coral]

if a true "duo unit" appears it would take 2 hotbar slots and have 5+ passives

[vestal coral]

mono means 1

[frozen jetty]

no it wouldnt LMAO

[vestal coral]

it takes 1 slot

[sterile surge]

DUO = TWO CHARACTERS IN ONE
SYNERGY = TWO OR MORE CHARACTERS WORKING WELL TOGETHER

[vestal coral]

so its a mono unit

[vestal coral]

no?

[frozen jetty]

exactly a MONO UNIT would be ONE character

[sterile surge]

Img

ahahahehhahaha

HWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[vestal coral]

two characters in one just means its 2 characters in 1

[frozen jetty]

a DUO UNIT would be TWO character

[sterile surge]

im gonna leave ts

[vestal coral]

that has nothing to do with units

[sterile surge]

ignore him

hes baiting

[vestal coral]

no?

a duo unit is 2 units not 2 characters

[sterile surge]

Notice how he jus disagrees when u disprove him

[frozen jetty]

DUO UNITS <- SEE HOW I ADDED AN S would be TWO different UNITS <- S AGAIN BTW

[sterile surge]

this is IMMENSE levels of baiting

[vestal coral]

???

y'all have disproved nothing

wdym

[sterile surge]

Because ur disagreeing lmao

omg bro

[frozen jetty]

9/10 bait

[vestal coral]

you literally tried using chatgpt to win this discussion you have no say in this matter anymore

[sterile surge]

Duo can be whatever

IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE OBJECTIVE

[sterile surge]

“I was trolling with it”

Lmao bro

[vestal coral]

it literally does though

[sterile surge]

You crazy

[sterile surge]

LMAO

[vestal coral]

there are set definitions to terms

[sterile surge]

OK BRO

THATS LITERALLY

TOO OBVIOUS

[vestal coral]

y'all cant just change them to fit a narrative

[sterile surge]

wait dm me if u want help baiting

i’ll help u vro 💔

[vestal coral]

the only one baiting is you lol

[sterile surge]

Different terms bro

[frozen jetty]

i litearlly used your definitions and proved you wrong

like what

[vestal coral]

no you didnt

you used my definition and twisted it to fit your narrative

hence its nolonger my definition

a classic yoink and twist maybe

[sterile surge]

• 1st way of using it:
  Dang these units work well together theyre kind of a duo

• 2nd way of using it:
  Wow theres two units one thats a nice duo

Literally there bro

[vestal coral]

hey u agreed with me then

[sterile surge]

its not an objective term u can use it in many ways

[vestal coral]

2 units correct!

its 2 seperate units!

[sterile surge]

Yeah exactly

Why u disagreeing

with the other term

you can LITERALLY call iti whatever

[vestal coral]

the other term is flagrantly incorrect

[sterile surge]

why does ts matter bro

[frozen jetty]

i twisted litearlly nothing

[vestal coral]

its not a duo UNIT, its a duo CHARACTER

[sterile surge]

bro lmao

[vestal coral]

its a mono UNIT

[frozen jetty]

you might lowk just be slow

[sterile surge]

ts is so stupid

[vestal coral]

it takes up 1 unit slot, and thus is a mono unit

[sterile surge]

stop arguong bro ts is so pointless

[frozen jetty]

a mono unit would be one character in the unit alone

[sterile surge]

you can literally use it the same way

[vestal coral]

if it takes up 2 unit slots and has 2 characters, it'd be a duo unit

[sterile surge]

its just a term bro

😭😭

[vestal coral]

but if it takes up 1 unit slot and has 2 characters its still just a mono unit

[frozen jetty]

a duo unit <- no S would be two characters in 1 unit

[sterile surge]

Bro omg lmao

im leaving

both of u r baiters

[vapid plume]

Hii

[sterile surge]

Hi random milk role

[vapid plume]

Random 💔

[frozen jetty]

duo UNITS <- Peep the s gang, is two diff unitss

[vestal coral]

there are duo units and then a duo unit, duo units are ones that have good synergy and a duo unit is something like fusing together goku and vegita mid-run to get vegito or gogita who has aspects from both of the units

[frozen jetty]

nah this dude is lowk just slow

[vestal coral]

a mono unit yes

[sterile surge]

yap

[vestal coral]

bro thats 4 words

wdym yap

[sterile surge]

Bro lmao

you use the same ss

[frozen jetty]

theres an AND in the name and bros tb mono 💔

[sterile surge]

Sam ultimate igris glazer

[sterile surge]

I'm advertising my suggestion

Sam can i ask u smth

[sterile surge]

No

its very important

💔💔

[twilit phoenix]

Sjw and igris are two different units in game once u sacrificed igris to evo sjw they became a DUO UNIT

[sterile surge]

Its important lil bruh

[sterile surge]

No

Gogeta or vegito lil bruh

@sterile surge

answer me

[vapid plume]

[sterile surge]

Answer me

Omfg you stopped ryping

ANSWER ME

[frozen jetty]

this MIGHT be peak

[vestal coral]

to be classified as a duo unit they must be combined mid-run, you are describing an evolution rn

[sterile surge]

Has nothing to do with all ts

[twilit phoenix]

God I hate auto correct

[sterile surge]

💔

[frozen jetty]

calm lil flex

[sterile surge]

Vegito

[sterile surge]

goattt

GOATTT

yeaah i agree wchu bro

ima bump ur suggest

[sterile surge]

glaze

[hollow smelt]

Marksman 🥀

[frozen jetty]

got no rerolls

spent 460 on gogeta

[hollow smelt]

😔

[lament citrus]

no she isnt

on evo she is 4 placement

[keen loom]

Yoo guys I got a tip for y'all. Just ignore @acoustic jetty gotta be the most braindead td player ever, pointless takes + ratio. Ignore or clock this guy whenever you see him, least obvious rage baiter, illiterate, human being I've ever seen. Doing everything on his breath defending a bad system with garbage takes, bro just wanna be different so bad Bro been on this discussion for so long, yet still somehow can't comprehend simple sht pmo so much omfg

HOLYY W SUGGESTION!

THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION/SUGGESTION IS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SUFFERING FOR UNLUCKY PLAYERS AND MAKE IT LESS PUNISHING, WHILE PROMOTING A MORE REWARDING AND FUN STAGES FOR PLAYERS. SO THAT THEY WILL NOT RELY MUCH ON TINYTASK AND ACTUALLY PLAY MORE OF THE MODE BECAUSE THEY WILL SEE THAT THEIR EFFORTS WILL BE REWARDED.

Since some people here complain about tinytask in general. Would you guys prefer to have a guaranteed pity (Let’s say the pity is around 300, that’s like around 2-3 days of tinytask overnight) so if there’s a pity you can basically take your time instead of relying tiny task, that way you can just spend around 2-3 hours of legend stages per day and take a break(focus on other gamemodes like worldlines/portals,) and you’ll get the secret stage unit in a week. Or would you prefer that you spend your time relying on tinytasks to complete endless amount of runs for who knows when you”ll get the secret unit while being unable to play other modes.

300 pity is not even a generous amount of runs, assuming majority of players like those who reacted “❌” gets lucky and get the secret unit around 100-200.
Secret Units in legend stages is meant to be obtainable, a 300 pity will require you to play 2 days straight without break. Some people are literally getting them around 100-200 runs. I’m pretty sure pretty much majority of the players have yamamoto and igris already.

Both adding a secret unit pity and a luck potion increase your chances of getting the secret unit; the pity guarantees it after enough tries, while the potion just makes it more likely to happen sooner—both help you get it faster and more reliably.

[lament citrus]

lowk nobody gives a shit abt this suggestion anymore and it is more of a general 3

we done arguing and js waiting for answers

[balmy ether]

just mango it

youll get it eventually

took me 702 tries

[twilit phoenix]

And for the people who can't mango? they basally get locked out of a update because the grind has no end in sight without some sort of pity, just f them? it's unfair to the people who play the game as intended

it took me 60+ runs to get a item with a 10% drop rate, something has to change

[round anchor]

506 stars

no way this many people want pity

[twilit phoenix]

If the devs truly don’t care they can just decline the suggestion and make a rule saying it won’t be changed and if u try making a post you’ll lose permission to make more suggestions

[zinc linden]

They prob thinking or sum

[acoustic jetty]

Underage

👀

I'll say it again, until the delusional OP gets a reality check and deletes this

This is BEING AVOIDED, due to how shitty the suggestion is

👍

plz just give up man, I trust u can cook up an actual innovative suggestion.

[grizzled otter]

Old units really need this, why i should be farming 200 boss rush for an outdated unit?

This is my situation with igris

And the same applies for the legend stage

[acoustic jetty]

what kinda example is this bro 😭

of all units u coulda thought of an example

u chose IGRIS

WHICH IS NEEDED IN THE MOST RECENT UPDATE

TO GET THE NO.1 unit in the game

😭

[grizzled otter]

Then who else do i mention wtf? The current ones in the game are too recent

Yamamoto, choi

Wbo else

[low crow]

sokora

[grizzled otter]

Also kinda recent

[low crow]

igris from the boss event

[grizzled otter]

Thats the only one old enough if we completely ignore the fact of the new evo

[acoustic jetty]

so don't mention it at all 💔

u can macoroni igris raid with only legend units and 1 vegeta if IIRC

[keen loom]

You cook it up bro, since you think this is a shyt suggestion. Surely your standards won't fail you 💀

Yooo mention it again on stage or something :3

We're not done here

There is a room for reconsideration

[acoustic jetty]

delusion

@keen loom Incase u don't know what it means

I need you to open ur eyes

I believe in u mate

🫂

u can make an actual good suggestion

🫂

[keen loom]

Nah, I'd sleep

Haven't touched the game for a while now

[low crow]

why isn’t this a good suggestion from your pov?

[keen loom]

right?

[low crow]

i cant read the suggestion because there’s to much msg

[keen loom]

this is gen3 atp 😂

[low crow]

what

[keen loom]

THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION/SUGGESTION IS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SUFFERING FOR UNLUCKY PLAYERS AND MAKE IT LESS PUNISHING, WHILE PROMOTING A MORE REWARDING AND FUN STAGES FOR PLAYERS. SO THAT THEY WILL NOT RELY MUCH ON TINYTASK AND ACTUALLY PLAY MORE OF THE MODE BECAUSE THEY WILL SEE THAT THEIR EFFORTS WILL BE REWARDED.

Since some people here complain about tinytask in general. Would you guys prefer to have a guaranteed pity (Let’s say the pity is around 300, that’s like around 2-3 days of tinytask overnight) so if there’s a pity you can basically take your time instead of relying tiny task, that way you can just spend around 2-3 hours of legend stages per day and take a break(focus on other gamemodes like worldlines/portals,) and you’ll get the secret stage unit in a week. Or would you prefer that you spend your time relying on tinytasks to complete endless amount of runs for who knows when you”ll get the secret unit while being unable to play other modes.

300 pity is not even a generous amount of runs, assuming majority of players like those who reacted “❌” gets lucky and get the secret unit around 100-200.
Secret Units in legend stages is meant to be obtainable, a 300 pity will require you to play 2 days straight without break. Some people are literally getting them around 100-200 runs. I’m pretty sure pretty much majority of the players have yamamoto and igris already.

Both adding a secret unit pity and a luck potion increase your chances of getting the secret unit; the pity guarantees it after enough tries, while the potion just makes it more likely to happen sooner—both help you get it faster and more reliably.

[acoustic jetty]

Good suggestion from u someday

[acoustic jetty]

U get a top-tier unit for ur efforts, it's easily clearble, etc

It's just a matter of how much runs a player wants to put in

If they willing to do 500+ runs then 500 runs they shall do

If they're only willing to do 100 runs [they not even playing the game themselves, so not sure why they're complaining] then after the 100 u can grind for the next unit

And if u have done all that is possible, go back to grinding for Yamamoto

🤷‍♂️

[low crow]

so your point is the secret is just a side grind or something like that?

[acoustic jetty]

It's a top tier unit.

That's what I said

[low crow]

.

[acoustic jetty]

If ur too lazy to grind [despite the fact most people use a mango] then do other content the game has to offer

THATS what I wrote.

[acoustic jetty]

Notice how the 1st msg was

[acoustic jetty]

.

[low crow]

ok i get it now

[acoustic jetty]

And then u proceed to target the other paragraph

[low crow]

sry

[acoustic jetty]

Like what

OK cook

👍

Cool*

Glad to convert atleast 1 more person

[low crow]

i don’t mind a pity that much tbh

[acoustic jetty]

Nor would I

Nobody would

[low crow]

maybe a pity might be pushing it but a potion you need to craft/get from another place is fine in my opinion

[acoustic jetty]

But it makes the game too easy

[acoustic jetty]

That's perfectly suitable

🤷‍♂️

[low crow]

how about a soft pity like your vanguard suggestion but only increase only to 1%?

[acoustic jetty]

I was also thinking about this

Ig it could work 🤷‍♂️

[wraith sage]

i don't get how you seem to be in favour of a vanguard soft pity yet against a legend stage secret pity

isn't it the same concept

[acoustic jetty]

💀

Vanguard pity, slight % increase

Legend stage pity- FREE UNIT AFTER X AMOUNT OF RUNS

[wraith sage]

your argument is that it makes the game easier when the other suggestion does the same thing

where's the nuance

both suggestions aim to provide a safety net for especially unlucky players

yet you dislike one and seem to favour the other

[viral forge]

i do understand his view

[viral forge]

his saying in leg stage pity ur guranteed the unit after a certain amount of runs which he doesent want
while where in soft pity even tho u spend the avr amount ur never gonna be guranteed to get it

but to me pity is pity no matter which way u look at it its gonna make the game easier
and yall want everything to have pity vanguards leg stages
not gonna be suprised someone does for secret portal now

everything doesent need pity

all atd games have some sort of pity sure but u dont see them putting pity for everything cuz its just gonna make the game to ez
and feel unsatisfying (to me atleast) knowing i got sth off pity rather then beating the odds

[wraith sage]

there's a fundamental difference between a unit like gogeta and a unit like yamamoto

gogeta is game breaking and overkill for most content

yama is pretty good but not nearly worth an average of 130+ clears to get

which is why I think giving yama a hard pity isn't as bad as giving it to say gogeta

[acoustic jetty]

Atleast it doesn't guarantee u getting the Vanguard

I said I was open to ad idea similar to the Vanguard pity suggestion

"After X amount of runs u get +% more"

Ur most likely not reading

[wraith sage]

im fine with either a soft or hard pity but why are we acting like a hard pity is the work of the devil

[viral forge]

pretty sure they is no stage that is that hard its a must u need gogeta but sure

[wraith sage]

i just said gogeta was overkill for all content in the game

he isn't a must have which is why a hard pity isn't realistic

yama technically isn't a must have either (not even the best unit in the bleach update imo) but he also isn't good enough to justify the avg time needed to have a chance at getting him

again, both of you aren't really seeing the bigger picture and your arguments lack nuance, you're berating the guy for a fairly reasonable suggestion imo

[viral forge]

I mean i just gave up cuz prob next time I'm here is prob till a dev comes cuz who gives a fuck whether or not it's good or bad the devs make the final decision

No matter how good or bad is it we can't do shit unless ur on the dev team

[quick plume]

do not add pls 🙏

[viral forge]

its not getting added as of rn 3 weeks no repsonse

[acoustic jetty]

an example of somebody who is cleansed of delusion:

take some notes OP...

🫂

[sterile surge]

Why are you agaisnt this

[acoustic jetty]

guaranteed

chances

are

pushing it

🫂

[sterile surge]

no?

what

[twilit phoenix]

Are people against this because it’s gonna mess up the no existing trading economy?

[viral forge]

no its generally gonna make the game easier which it doesent need to be cuz nun of the leg stage uniits are considered "mandotary requirements"

[tame jetty]

mandatory*

and putting pity on a shitty system doesn't fix it that's why I'm against it

unless they revamp stage secret obtainment enough that it would still be hard to get but not grindy (like yhwach), I'm against the pity system

pity will encourage the grind more than ease it

[twilit phoenix]

So how would u change it if u could?

[viral forge]

Point at the end of they day Is it's gonna make it easier

Js realized even tho pity is added and it sth high or even soft pity ppl will still complain they can't get him

And will request for it to get lowered unless yamamotos pity is sth like 150 stgh runs 200+ ppl are complaining

[twilit phoenix]

I suggest instead of making a pitty for legend stage make it so boss rush units can be bought with let’s say 1.5k tokens. Not every legend stage unit will get a raid so those ones can keep their exclusivity

[tame jetty]

higher chance but has a cyclical schedule so ppl can only go in certain times or days

stage secrets having the 0.75% but only when progressing through the story and legend stages and only on one-time rewards

maybe some type of quest system that increases the chance

and also repurpose the last legend stage that holds the secret unit for something that isn't hyperfocused on the secret

bc those legend stages don't make the secret unit secret just for low rarityt

when that happens, maybe legend stage secret pity has an actual argument

[tame jetty]

oh also cyclical as in one stage secret at a time and maybe none in certain times

or maybe limited attempts

[twilit phoenix]

I do like the idea of giving secret units a quest line, it would have to be a lengthy like 10-15 quest but not too hard to balance the grind

Evo sjw, kill 1000 dungeon mobs, destroy 25 statues, etc this guy is smart not arguing and actually giving suggestions on how to make the game better

[tame jetty]

not a lengthy one

it's just gonna buff the chance

though using evo sjw for quests might be cool

like 2 quests, one would give a slight buff and the evo sjw needed one would give more

ooh or maybe using sjw in secret stage increases the chance

idk about yamamoto though

[mild wadi]

just delete the suggestion atp

[plain crypt]

Tragic

Fuck pity

All must suffer as I have

[rough haven]

Did anyone mention your chances could increase by example Yamamoto: +.75 each clear and making it 1.5% chance the next one?

[visual bison]

Yes we have suggest those things

[acoustic jetty]

that could be an alternative

🤷‍♂️

[keen loom]

AIGHT NOW WHY WE ACTING LIKE SUNG JIN WOO VANGUARD ISNT GUARANTEED TOO?

SHOULD WE LOCK HIM UP TOO LIKE GOGETA?

HE'S GAME BREAKING AFTER-ALL, MUCH MORE THAN YAMA? HMMM

So is the Sung Jin Woo vanguard pushing it too? I wonder

why we acting like putting pity on units is making it easier? do you think 500 runs for secret units like yamamoto/ igris/ sakura is easy?

when all it does is just make the unit obtainable after god knows how many runs, making it less punishable for those unlucky people

lucky players dont get affecteed by pity at all, so I dont get your point of it making the game "easy"

Hell, most players get the secret unit around 150-300 runs, so is adding a 500/400/300 pity really making the game "easy"

grind rotted brain

[keen loom]

Bro agrees with this, and is so against adding pity T-T. THEY ARE THE FCKING SAME SHT IN CONCEPT! Use your brain

Bro stand your point, are we being fr rn

[rotund sluice]

game breaking? how

[keen loom]

I may have over-exaggerated a bit, but isn't he still top 3 unit overall?

[keen loom]

ahemmm, so I see that you agree with adding +chances for gogeta? delusional are we? heh

gotta take note for yourself too

[sterile surge]

"yama" and "game breaking" in the same sentence 💔

[keen loom]

Bro I already stated I may have over-exaggerated a bit

[sterile surge]

A bit is a massive understatement

[keen loom]

alright, I guess

so does it affect my suggestion what so ever?

still a top tier unit

[sterile surge]

No

Not even top 10

[keen loom]

"If it doesn't affect me, I dont care about it ahh" blud did not get gogeta

[sterile surge]

yap

[keen loom]

rage bait, who are we talking about again?

[sterile surge]

Yamamoto obviously

[keen loom]

are we deaduzz rn?

not top 10? list your top 10 then

I'll listen and not judge

[sterile surge]

list your top 10

How is yama a top 10 unit 💔

[keen loom]

no, yours first

since you disagree with it first

[sterile surge]

No

[keen loom]

aight rage bait

bye bye

[acoustic jetty]

why are being so serious over something that is confirmed to not be added 💔

typing in all CAPS n everything 💔

[fallen coral]

"The devs will change their mind if many ppl star it"

[sterile surge]

You wont even say ur top 10 💔

[fallen coral]

[keen loom]

Because it is actually a good suggestion

Or, are you saying you got better suggestion in mind? let me hear it

[fallen coral]

We adding a pity for everything with this one🔥🔥🔥

[keen loom]

Oh I heard you are open for gogeta +chances ?

[fallen coral]

They can just make a store where u can sell the evo items,that way it isn't entirely useless grinding all these stuff

[keen loom]

valid

I want them to improve on their legend stages, bounty system is step to it (if it even counts)

[acoustic jetty]

Can this even be considered a suggestion?? where is the details on the amount of runs needed to be completed to get Yama??? this suggestion is just complaining, no ideas were laid out. and regardless whether u did think of a x amount of runs. why isn't it shown on the top??? The top msg is the msg that is supposed to describe what the player is asking to be added

• the fact that the suggestion itself is hot garbage

[fallen coral]

Ye legend stages seem kind of mid I do agree with that,but a pity is ehhh

[acoustic jetty]

👍

[keen loom]

ERMMM, are we being fr rn?? are we being blind rn? Ideas were laid out throughout this whole discussion thread

[acoustic jetty]

"ERMMMMMMMMMMMM" are we being fr. Did u even read what I wrote

[keen loom]

Yeah I read it

[acoustic jetty]

Did we finish reading before typing?

[keen loom]

Bro I literally put it up at the top?

[keen loom]

is you blind?

[keen loom]

I'm new to posting suggestions, so I wasnt able to put it up at that time

[keen loom]

but I did put a follow up paragraphs and my ideas

[acoustic jetty]

anddd, why, isn't, it, at, the ,TOPPP

thats cool and all

[keen loom]

Bro I said im new to putting suggestions at that time? selective hearing much?

[keen loom]

So, @acoustic jetty what is this "great" suggestion that makes you think this suggestion is hot garbage, when in fact it is very reasonable?

[acoustic jetty]

making a paragraph practising ur writing skills and creativity

I'm so proud man

🫂

[keen loom]

Thank you my g

[acoustic jetty]

regardless of the fact u writing for no cause

it only benifits urself

[keen loom]

so are we kissing or not?

[acoustic jetty]

👍

[keen loom]

use your brain. it benefits player in general

[acoustic jetty]

sigh

sigh sigh

[keen loom]

omg bro

[acoustic jetty]

are u reading what I'm writing dude 💔

[keen loom]

Yeah dude

[acoustic jetty]

....

[keen loom]

You clearly dont know what you are saying

[acoustic jetty]

...

practising ur writing skills is benifitting URSELF

[acoustic jetty]

ur increasing urself as person in value

[keen loom]

Oh so what is the connect to it to this suggestion?

[acoustic jetty]

that's why I'm proud man

🫂

[keen loom]

thank you, slay

[acoustic jetty]

u did this correct?

I am proud

[keen loom]

yah

[acoustic jetty]

thats what I mean

regardless of

[acoustic jetty]

!!!

[keen loom]

YAH

Slay

[acoustic jetty]

ok stop

yeah bye

🌊

[keen loom]

slay ig

GTFO

[keen loom]

why we acting like putting pity on units is making it easier? do you think 500 runs for secret units like yamamoto/ igris/ sakura is easy?
when all it does is just make the unit obtainable after god knows how many runs, making it less punishable for those unlucky people
lucky players dont get affecteed by pity at all, so I dont get your point of it making the game "easy"
Hell, most players get the secret unit around 150-300 runs, so is adding a 500/400/300 pity really making the game "easy"
grind rotted brain

[keen loom]

Me against people who dont want pity

They be overwhelming me with illogical and bad arguments (Most of them got lucky and got yamamot\igris uder 200 runs so they dont have to suffer like other people)

[keen loom]

why we acting like putting pity on units is making it easier? do you think 500 runs for secret units like yamamoto/ igris/ sakura is easy?
when all it does is just make the unit obtainable after god knows how many runs, making it less punishable for those unlucky people
lucky players dont get affecteed by pity at all, so I dont get your point of it making the game "easy"
Hell, most players get the secret unit around 150-300 runs, so is adding a 500/400/300 pity really making the game "easy"
grind rotted brain

This discussion thread is very self-explanatory bruh

[rotund sluice]

Wrong

Yama is trash

[keen loom]

list me your top 10 units rn

[rotund sluice]

The new fire guy makes him look like a complete fucking joke

[keen loom]

I guess XD

[rotund sluice]

He will never be used for lb runs cuz he can crash the game

He will never be used for br

Not being used for tourney either

He’s just completely not that good and overrated

I regret spinning monarch on him

[keen loom]

Dang so @acoustic jetty is so wrong XD

[rotund sluice]

Next update, someone will have a better kit than him

[keen loom]

He always emphasize about how he is a "top tier" unit worth grinding 500+ runs for

@acoustic jetty

any thoughts?

[keen loom]

Dang

I was spending all my rerolls on him

Is he really that bad?

[rotund sluice]

Yes

[keen loom]

dang it

[rotund sluice]

And he has no immune to stun

[keen loom]

I thought he doing good cause of his summons and full aoe

[rotund sluice]

They’re good for dungeons but useless

Meta for one gamemode makes him not good enough

[acoustic jetty]

Bro is obsessed with me

get a life man 😭

[keen loom]

because you were calling my suggestion hot "garbage"

when it is reasonable

say sorry rn

[acoustic jetty]

why is it reasonable?

[keen loom]

because it is? it's clearly very fundamental for the game's overall QOL, especially for players who spends a lot of time to get those units

[acoustic jetty]

dont hit me with copy pasta 💔

[keen loom]

you dont even read it deaduzz

[acoustic jetty]

Again a full on 100% pity is pushing it

[keen loom]

it really dont my guy, it's 300/400/500 run pity

[old meadow]

make it so if you do the stage 10x more than the 1/chance you simply guaranteed get it cause at that point you're more likely to die the next day than get the unit

[keen loom]

how many runs did you get your yamamoto?

@acoustic jetty come on man, you are better than this say sike rn

Put out your idea why this is not reasonable and is pushing it. Because your previous statements is not giving it.

[twilit phoenix]

I need Yama I just got my first monarch and it’s was the fire force guy in 1 roll for kills

[keen loom]

yooo nice for getting monarch

[twilit phoenix]

[keen loom]

hope you get lucky fr

500 runs is hell

[acoustic jetty]

I've done about 9 so far, I haven't gotten him yet, I haven't bothered in trying to grind for him, I'm currently grinding for SJW N IGRIS and I'm on the final quest

[twilit phoenix]

I do have 4 of the dbz vanguard unit

But I’m not a dbz fan so idc for him

[acoustic jetty]

me when I lie:

[twilit phoenix]

I want diavilo

[twilit phoenix]

What I have to lie for?

[sterile surge]

diavilo

[acoustic jetty]

ss plz

[keen loom]

LET HIM COOK

[acoustic jetty]

genderbent Dia

[twilit phoenix]

Alr give me a sec

[keen loom]

you gotta slide in 1 if that's true

[twilit phoenix]

I got 3 I mean

[keen loom]

slide in 1 when trade comes, if its not true im gonna touch you

[twilit phoenix]

Don’t threaten me with a good time

[keen loom]

[twilit phoenix]

It was for afk chamber too I only did portals when the update first dropped and haven’t touched them since

[twilit phoenix]

What u wanna join too?

[sterile surge]

I don't think ur allowed to say that 💔

[keen loom]

my bad g

[old meadow]

i just noticed your pfp is a woman for some reason i kept thinking its the haikyu guy (cant spell it)

[keen loom]

me?

[sterile surge]

Who

[twilit phoenix]

I can’t remember the last time I played apex I need to change my pfp

[old meadow]

this guy

[keen loom]

ohh hinata

[sterile surge]

💀

His pfp is clearly a woman

💔

[old meadow]

once i clicked it i saw too, Kiara-looking

[twilit phoenix]

Are sports anime even good?

[old meadow]

pfps in small are deceptive..

[sterile surge]

nah they aint

It's clearly a woman

[keen loom]

imma get timed out bro

[sterile surge]

💀

[twilit phoenix]

I need some to glaze seveka with

[keen loom]

he sees a vision that we dont

let him cook

[twilit phoenix]

That’s a crazy sentence

[keen loom]

why we acting like putting pity on units is making it easier? do you think 500 runs for secret units like yamamoto/ igris/ sakura is easy?
when all it does is just make the unit obtainable after god knows how many runs, making it less punishable for those unlucky people
lucky players dont get affecteed by pity at all, so I dont get your point of it making the game "easy"
Hell, most players get the secret unit around 150-300 runs, so is adding a 500/400/300 pity really making the game "easy"

[old meadow]

i do wonder if its intended

cause if you think about it

they made it so getting gizelle is about 25 hours

[sterile surge]

you already sent this

[old meadow]

of constant farming

[sterile surge]

btw who's the girl in ur pfp

[old meadow]

getting secret units is also roughly around that much

[keen loom]

Changli from wuthering waves

[twilit phoenix]

It’s took me 60 runs to get a 10% drop rate team so yeah def intended

[sterile surge]

[old meadow]

wow so not only did i think its a man at first but its not even who i thought it was even after closer inspection

[twilit phoenix]

I tried that game couldn’t get into it

[keen loom]

yeah it's really slow at the start

[main shard]

and very boring at the end

[keen loom]

but once you get to the new questline its really good

[main shard]

very repetitive until new updates

[rotund sluice]

For which game?

[main shard]

wuwa

[keen loom]

yup, but they improved so much ngl

[twilit phoenix]

Bro popped out of nowhere

[main shard]

endgame gacha games are

[keen loom]

yooo guys am I the only one not getting the red key after 30 runs in the dungeon?

[main shard]

dailies, stamina burn, log off

[keen loom]

it is what it is

[twilit phoenix]

I got it first try

But I don’t have igris so it’s rotting in my inventory

[keen loom]

lock your doors and windows tonight

[twilit phoenix]

Nah I’ll be waiting

[keen loom]

[twilit phoenix]

I need awtd to drop the new year 3.0.5.789 update

[keen loom]

I heard they always fumble their updates

[old meadow]

I swear its actually only if you get the last hit on Ant King
Cause I got it instantly twice (once the first time I killed Ant King, and then as soon as I completed my previous key I got another)
Meanwhile my friend had done like 15 and no luck

getting vanguard sung is actually 1000x easier than getting fully ascended gizelle

they are censoring the truth

we need giselle exchange asap

[viral forge]

Why? Why promote ur suggestion in someone else's suggestion?

[old meadow]

because its not my suggestion

i just happened to put in 170 bumps there

[viral forge]

Yh even tho why u using someone else's suggestion to promote the others this is for legend stage pity bro not a promotion area

[old meadow]

The actual reason is that the people here seemed level-headed so I thought I'd take the opportunity to snatch some people who'd understand

legend pity and gizelle grind are two sides of the same coin

[viral forge]

Still doesent justify what ur doing is right u know what I actually don't give a fuck imma do stg else

[old meadow]

(advertising always sucks, no doubt about it)

[keen loom]

real

it's hard out here

just spam it on gen chat

[old meadow]

I think I need yellow-rank to post in-discord links but it'll happen eventually
Thank you 🙏

[keen loom]

bro istg, why yamamoto power creept already smh

I thought he'd last another month or so

why we acting like putting pity on units is making it easier? do you think 500 runs for secret units like yamamoto/ igris/ sakura is easy?
when all it does is just make the unit obtainable after god knows how many runs, making it less punishable for those unlucky people
lucky players dont get affecteed by pity at all, so I dont get your point of it making the game "easy"
Hell, most players get the secret unit around 150-300 runs, so is adding a 500/400/300 pity really making the game "easy"

[sterile surge]

Tysm

[fallen coral]

Well pretty sure monarch one isn't

Monarch yama does better than monarch sjw in rifts ❤️

And we cannot forget Yama's trapping feature

[sterile surge]

allat just to be worse than Gogeta 💔

[fallen coral]

Situational❤️

[fallen coral]

Yama is meant to be a good crowd control+ great boss killer, whereas gogeta is a good crowd control+insane dps

Although the crowd control part comes after u get him to his last move

[sterile surge]

yap

[fallen coral]

Lmao

[keen loom]

Dang got the wrong sung jin woo

[fallen coral]

Who plays reborn in 202025🥀

[keen loom]

THE GOAT

They just added Pity on legend stages

[fallen coral]

They had to

Whos playing that game rn,they need player retainment,they ain't taking a risk

The fact that even AA fell off

Avg da goat

[sterile surge]

als>reborn

[keen loom]

im still salty I didnt grind for kurumi💔

[old meadow]

anime TD game try not to add limiteds challenge: absolutely impossible

[sterile surge]

the goat astd would never 💔

[keen loom]

what they gon do without limited XD

[old meadow]

in vanguards, i think they should make it so theres only 4 updates active at once
so they should remove the initial units and the update 1 units from banner 😎

[sterile surge]

🤔

[old meadow]

an epic game that doesnt exploit addiction for 12 hours a day whale grinding

theres not a day that goes by where i dont regret missing subaru

i could get a shiny gogeta and people would still not exchange it for subaru...

[keen loom]

I will

[sterile surge]

You dont need subaru

Rin is better anyways

[old meadow]

but but ragna +20% range per placement! 😭

[lament citrus]

my top 10 is sjw, saber, yhwach, ichigo, alucard, rem and rom, lancer, gogeta, aizen, esdeath/yoruichi

[sterile surge]

never cook again

[lament citrus]

💔

maybe swap ichigo and alucard

[sterile surge]

Whats ur top 10

[sterile surge]

Thatd make it even worse

[lament citrus]

whats ur top 10

js wondering

[sterile surge]

Yes

[lament citrus]

fym “yes”

[old meadow]

Igris and Sung Jinwu must be Sam's #1 🧠 ⬆️

[lament citrus]

i put sjw at #1 🥀

[lament citrus]

i havent used him yet but i am js assuming since everyone is saying he is busted

[proven crag]

Just make inf tower unit as op like esdeath so we dont need to grind legend stage

[sterile surge]

Igris, Yhwach, Saber, Ichigo, Rem, Gogeta, Alucard, Esdeath, Aizen, Ragna

[old meadow]

(((sorry the joke was a deep cut reference to how Sam has been pushing to rename Sung Jinwu & Igris to Igris & Sung Jinwu)))

[lament citrus]

i would move ragna down js cus he needs the entire team built around him to be decent

[lament citrus]

yeah i realized this before u said that

[sterile surge]

no

[lament citrus]

ok

[lament citrus]

ur the boss cus you are pee role

[lament citrus]

can we stop with the dog with a big ass snout

[lament citrus]

also i got saber monarch

[old meadow]

how tf

[lament citrus]

within 50 rrs

2 of the best monarchs

[old meadow]

i still only have 1 monarch since release

i mean its gogeta but still

[lament citrus]

and a few weeks ago

[old meadow]

[acoustic jetty]

It's not a dog, it's a German

Respect man

German citizen

[lament citrus]

im sorry

[visual bison]

This is the point, they add pity to units like yhwach and sjw igris who are meta. But this one yamamoto, he is just the best burn and have no pity

[viral forge]

So choi ain't better than yama interesting

[jade seal]

No one can beat Yamamoto

[viral forge]

Glaze

[sterile surge]

Glaze

[viral forge]

How comes choi is ranked higher than yama then

[sterile surge]

Thats the wiki tl

[old meadow]

is there a better one for inf mode

[sterile surge]

Uh yeah

[old meadow]

Pls share, I've almost started investing in Ywach due to trusting the wiki...

[sterile surge]

dude

just look in the wiki

[old meadow]

but didnt u just say wiki bad..

[sterile surge]

the overall one yeah

[old meadow]

Oh mb i thought you meant all of em

Good

[sterile surge]

the inf one is made by a top inf player so I assume it's good

it probably is

[cunning pilot]

10 mill pitty

gl boys

[tame jetty]

LET'S GOOOO

[cunning pilot]

[tame jetty]

@keen loom we got pity

[sterile surge]

mhm?

[tame jetty]

10 mil

🙏

[viral forge]

10 mil runs?

Crazy work

[lament citrus]

@sterile surge they said they might replace lb units with lb skins

[sterile surge]

Spending dozens up to hundreds of hours into this game, spending hundreds of dollars or way more in rrs and other things in order to compete (or get lucky asf), getting other people who did so to make it to the lb and allat just for a fucking skin

[lament citrus]

better than a lb units

fym

[tame jetty]

lb units need evo 😭

[lament citrus]

cus i am never gonna use a lb units and they should never be good

but i would use a skin

[quick plume]

lb units will never be good, they wouldnt make a meta unit exclusive to the best players only

[rotund sluice]

This is wrong

Broly was once Meta for a nature tourney

all because he has full aoe + 12 multi hits

[lament citrus]

that was only cus he was the only mythic+ nature at the time

it will never happen again

[proven crag]

Ye now we have frieren

[twilit phoenix]

Why is this dead now

[viral forge]

cuz they is no point in arguing this shit out if the devs dont want to add this we cant do nun we are just wasting our fucking time and should do sth else

[twilit phoenix]

They haven’t denied the post yet so I still have a drop of hope

[old meadow]

They quite literally said "fine, 10 million pity" so thats as good as denied
Unless that was only for vanguards but i doubt it

[lament citrus]

wym that means it’s approved

10 million pity is pity none the less

[old meadow]

Positivist vs negativist