#Add a soft pity for banner secrets and vanguard banner units
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I got no GIF perms bro js imagine me sending it
bro there are 200 ❌ emoji
and they already declined ts
😭
why u still bumping
I know
Because it's a good suggestion
Nothing to do with life is the most reasonable answer
im talking for him
doesnt even get xp for sending that gif
literally just letting time pass by bumping a suggestion thats never getting added
ye i dont get it
units in this game are not even hard to get
i got 3 gogeta 2 diavolo 2 alucard
if u just lock in
its not that hard
gogeta is the easiest vanguard to get and they want him easier
crazy
bro will have 0 value
Everyone in my friend group got him
exactly
ragna is rarer
Sameee
also me and my friend got monarch gogeta
Lowkey delete this suggestion
exactly why they should keep vanguards similiar rarity to diavolo
diavolo will have value
at least
the fact that next update gogeta will still be there is crazy
generous developers
f2p btw
same i just buy b2p cuz i want the shiny version of units
but bp only give 70 rerolls or so
same here
you can literally just leave a device on afk chamber
and get gogeta easily
thats how a friend of mine who doesnt even play vanguard he is like lvl 24 got gogeta
This suggestion talks about adding a banner secret soft pity, how about we make harder to get a vanguard unit instead
or at least make bro last less
gogeta been available
for like 1 month
already
tryna be concerned for someone's health while giving a fuck about trade values
don't be selfless bro

isnt selfless supposed to be a positive thing
Your comments boil down to
“My friends and I got Gogeta easily therefore he should be harder to get for everyone.”
Pretty damn selfish innit? I had an argument with someone yesterday- saying that someone’s own subjective experience and good luck should not justify the neglect of QoL, because Statistics > Personal experience every time. Your luck and the luck of your friends does not change the fact that Gogeta has a .005% drop rate. That is an objectively low chance that demands time and energy, but Roblox slop has desensitized us to this.
You want to make Vanguards harder to get just bc “it’s so ez for me” and “muh exclusivity”, be real, who does that help? How does that make the game more fun? Do not say trade value- that’s not a gameplay feature.
Sure, a level 24 can get Gogeta. That’s how statistics works, there’s a non zero chance of that happening. But there’s also a non zero chance that you will never get him- ever. Even as a high level with millions of presents. Doesn’t matter if you “lock in” or not.
I don’t understand why people are against pro-player features like this. It’s like ya’ll like being milked for premium payouts or are just gambling addicts. Soft pity doesn’t even garuntee anything, it’s just there to say “we see your grind, keep going.” Like at most a good soft-pity would double his drop chance (0.005 -> 0.025).
That’s still low, but rewards continuous effort, and that’s enough for me. Ppl who think soft pity is a handout don’t even know what it is.
Idc. They shot down portals in the past but look where we are now.
I will keep fighting for QoL until EoS.
Also do not say “U just want the game to be ez and give everything to you with one clear.” That would be equally bad. I’ve played these games before.
masochism
sum wrong with you
gogeta is already too fucking easy to get
if u cant get it that means u got some skill issue or smthing
200k gifts from afking every day
he is 1/3M
i got him 3 times
everyone gets him
ragna is rarer cuz u cant afk him
gogeta u can get him by sleeping
on the afk chamber
i haven’t🥺
as a lvl 1
and i afk all day every day
BRO JUST CONFLATED RNG AND SKILL 😭🙏
1/3M
there are cases of not getting him
but making a pity for him
a pity
soft pity
Still
Read my 3 paragraphs above if you want my full vision
YES?!
he already have no value
Who cares (edit: who care about value), trading isn’t in the game yet, and player satisfaction should be priority instead of some hypothetical trade market value
if ur trying to get gogeta since day 1 u surely have him
"Who cares"
This game is not a trading outpost and should be made with that in mind
Don’t have him. Go figure.
No they already confirmed trading is planned
Planned, but they can stop it from becoming a train wreck
Anyways I’m in class I’ll go more in depth when I get home
idk vanguard as a rarity will js get ruined by trading
cuz people want shit to be hard to get because of trading
i am not taking anyone seriously if they want diavolo rarity to be the standard
get a job at mcdonalds it would pay way higher than trading like a goblin in atd games
the 14 raganas in my inv:
still
only people who do portals can get him
gogeta is affordable by anyone
just going afk
Just do 4 accounts and go in the afk chamber 😂 ✌️
ah yes my 3 alt accounts getting a unit for my main account to still NOT be able to use it
sensational
trade is planned
and dont say trading cause youd have to both level up that account and wait ages for trading to release
so what
ur lazy to wait
ur getting a free vanguard unit
(You infact can but alr)
only if u played the game
and if ur good
obv u can i got like 10 of him
but you cant if u just started the game , unlike gogeta
;-; I just don’t go for the Vangaurd units at all
-# I alr I ain’t pulling them anyways
Your 3 Gogeta and lvl 24 friend’s luck don’t fucking matter-0.005% is 0.005% and my proposed soft pity’s 0.025%, still rare. Some people in this thread spend 3m, others 10m got nada. Trading ‘value’ isn’t gameplay, dipshit-soft pity rewards grind. Unrewarding grinds make ppl quit. You seemingly have no empathy for 3m+ grinds, calling it ‘skill issue,’ fucking clueless-RNG’s not skill, ask anyone in this thread. Afk chamber is also ineffective for some low-end devices. I feel for them trying to get 12m without frying. I said it before- Devs flipped on portals, and I’ll fight ‘til EoS. You got 3 but cry ‘no value’ if others get a shot. I'm confused, do you want to play a tower defense? Or simulate a stock market?
me being one of those people who spent 3Million just to not get him
you can just leech
Corny
bump
This is Bs they alr halfed the rarity from 1/80000 to 1/40000 made him easier to get then diavlo and now piyu
and worse part NOBDOY agrees 3:1 for a dislike to like ratio
Its 1/20000 for vanguards and 1/25000 for banner secrets wdym
And it's a soft pity
Do you even know what that is
he’s desperate
he just cant get that gogeta
3 months in
and still no gogeta
💔
*desperate
If you’re gonna roast someone spell it right :V
I havent even grinded for gogeta
They can’t tell good game design from bad and are used to being milked
Oh
So u want pity
Cuz ur ass is lazy
soft pity
??????
??
lol
Pity
making chance higer
Do you even know what's a soft pity
How am I lazy for wanting a soft pity
That makes no sense
Soft pity caps, the value would still be extremely low. It ain’t a handout, just there to keep you motivated
Most of these people say the same bs you just did 💀
That’s 248 kids who don’t know what makes a good game
Their opinion doesn’t matter ngl
💀
even devs declined
💔
stop milking
How is this a bad suggestion
Devs opinions does
Can you prove it's bad
and they declined
?
Sure
Majority rules fallacy 3 times in a row
Xeno Goku is way stronger than canon Goku tho
Buu Saga Goku is enough
Anyways I gtg to bed
gn
buu saga Goku victim
mhm
Bump bump
They will add it
Someday
Sure
i do know the genshin term for it
and we dont need any sort of pity for limited char just gonna end up lowering his value and dont wanna grind trade for him
it increases the chances when ur about to reach the pity
thats what soft pity is
And we dont need it on av
obv not like hes the best unit in the game either
@runic pendant if ur so desperate for a vanguard unit just get sjw
stop bumping this shit
like i wonder why this shit is still up nobody agrees with it and everyone is against yet its still up
💀
That has nothing to do with the suggestion
do u want one
the more bumps this get the more X's it gets
exactly
.
look when i sent this photo
248
Now 252
Just delete this troll ass suggestion
it gained 1 bump for 4 downvotes
goofiest shit we got a mod in the chat and they surely damn know well this thing is not making in the game
and how is this not considered low quality
OR
You can just increase gogeta’s chance from 0.005% to a maximum of 0.025%.
Percent increase scales logarithmically (slowly) with every hundred thousand presents spent. That’s soft pity too. Doesn’t garuntee anything, just keeps you motivated.
Just a thought :)
lol
how tf do u say "his hard to get" add soft pity to make it fair thats bs he wasnt supposed to be easy hence why its called vanguards and the rarest rarity in game
they deleted my post where i said to decrease raid token costs it had like 300 bumps
and they dont delete this shit
and they keeping shit like this up crazy work
Yeah ngl ur right the suggestion itself is pretty bad
Wow you had a suggestion like that? I thought you would post something like “Increase raid token costs bc everything is too ez to get” based on what I’ve seen you write.
you bump it like it depends on ur life
u cant talk
Ok
Every 100k is a little too much ngl
We bump the concept of a soft pity.
OP didn’t explain with with enough depth or reasoning however, so it comes off as rantish, making ppl decline without understanding what they’re declining
fair
They prob understand what they're declining they just get the wrong idea
By soft pity we dont mean making the units easy to get
Nvm a lot prob dont even know whats a soft pity
Those who don't just get the wrong idea cuz this suggestion is pretty low effort
Can't really blame them
Oh, you think we’re asking for a system that goes like
0.005% -> 1% -> 10% -> 50% -> You get Gogeta 💀
No, that’s not the type of pity we’re advocating for. Just raise the base chance every (amount) presents spent that CAPS at a value still below 1%.
“He wasn’t supposed to be easy hence why it’s called vanguard”
That’s a crutch and you know it. The “it’s supposed to be rare” fallacy is invoked in every gaddamn grindy, premium payout farming Roblox cashgrab (fisch, ALS, Simulators) as a poor defense for why a bad gameplay element should remain player un-friendly and take up as much of your time as possible for no reason- with no motivator.
I’m too tired to rant tho, back to bed I go 🛏️
then what do u think is the point of giving it a rarity like secret common etc? they should be all under the same category.
sure u can argue its a measure of how strong they are therefore strong units shouldnt be ez to obtain for obv reasons
and if u dont want to grind then dont the devs dont foce u to play this un-friendly game mode
If u dont wanna grind it then dont they are way more easier and enjoyable grinds u can do rather then gogeta