Buff Bleach units DMG stat in general or make all units going forward stronger

[silver crow]

bump

[dry wadi]

RAHHH WE NEED THIS, THEY NO POWER CREPT THE BLEACH UNITS WHEN IT THER BIGGEST UPDATE, LET THIS MAN SUGGESTION GO FAMOUS RAHHH

[silver crow]

I wouldnt say its power creeping the unit itself but its more so making the units more worth it

[dry wadi]

dawg look at dis

2.5k dps for a upd 4 unit

[silver crow]

with his passive it goes to like 45k

but yeah

you have a point

[dry wadi]

but the passives suck KKK

I only mad what they did to indigo cuz his passives are so useless

[silver crow]

i feel like ichigo shouldnt be doing 45k at max with his passive

too weak for a unit that can only attack with sakura

or if they take damage

[dry wadi]

If they gonna make it a system where it needs another unit why did they even bother making it Sakura and not orihime

Would’ve made way more sense

[silver crow]

I mean it doesnt NEED sakura because theres other ways to do it by letting units pass but

Its too nonsensical

[dry wadi]

He needs atleast a 9k dps

But even that is a bit mid

[silver crow]

9k isnt mid

9k is actually pretty strong

for traitless

But yeah he definitely needs a major buff if hes doing less than okarun without his passive 😭

[dry wadi]

still he seems too underwhelmed and mediocre

[dry wadi]

Wdym okarun is the best unit in the game

[silver crow]

I feel like units from this update should be doing minimum 50k

traitless and max upg ofc

[dry wadi]

Dunno bout this cuz it could depend on what there supposed to be for

but I pray they add ichigo a evolution like saber or smth

[silver crow]

That too like I get yoruichi is more of a cc unit so I can understand if they are weaker

Yoruichi is just a spa demon

• CC

But if its a dps unit it should atleast make sense

Why make weak DPS units that can be outscaled by upd 1 or 2 units?

We literallly have karems full AOE attack doing more damage that Ichigo with his passive

💔

[dry wadi]

It’s ironic how vegeta from update 0 is better than 60% of todays units

Not even exaggerating

[silver crow]

Eh from Update 1 - 1.75 maybe but lancer kinda replaced vegeta

[dry wadi]

Yeah but lancer is mainly used for his rupture passive, vegeta is pure dps overload with his insane passive and cooldown

[silver crow]

True but his dps only averages out to about 30k only on bosses so hes been really outscaled the only thing hes good for is early placement

[dry wadi]

Not to mention the fact that erm.. vegeta does more dps than him

[silver crow]

Ichigo and vegeta being comparable in dps is actually sad though

[dry wadi]

update 0 unit and update 4 unit

[visual magnet]

Look at giselle's dps

The summons do NOT make up for her low dps

[silver crow]

I forgot how much the summons did

[dry wadi]

I’m gonna delete thus that was mean

Who knows they might’ve had some serious stuff going on st home

[visual magnet]

30% of her damage so like 10k with monarch

[dry wadi]

so am no gonna complain

anyways goodbye chat back to work

[silver crow]

💔

[silver crow]

bump

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[silver crow]

bump

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bump

[candid crystal]

💔

[silver crow]

Yhwach yoruichi and kenpachi are really the only worth it units ichigo is beyond terrible along with uryu and kisuke

Giselle sucks too

[candid crystal]

my goat aizen 💔

[silver crow]

Aizen is bad hes too expensive and has only 5k more than gojo hes only decent in infs or with monarch 💔

[candid crystal]

then gilgamesh is bad too

[silver crow]

just rework all the stock based passives and give them different activation conditions and buff ichigos damage 💔

[candid crystal]

hes expensive with no cc and isnt even full aoe

[silver crow]

yes gilgamesh is bad too

why do you think hes only good with monarch

his nuke is his only carry

Aizens cc is stock reliant so you need sakura

[candid crystal]

huh

no it isnt

[silver crow]

His cc passive yes

Not his abillity

[candid crystal]

why would i be talking about his passive

[silver crow]

because his passive is also cc

[candid crystal]

his passive is more like a run saver and isg ood for tournaments

[silver crow]

all aizen is just a more expensive /slightly better gojo 💔

[candid crystal]

pretty sure the only thing aizen is bad in right now is story

[candid crystal]

slightly is crazy

arguably better cc better damage and full aoe on placement 💔

with monarch hes even crazier

[silver crow]

his only difference is aoe and cc other than that he has 5k more than gojo you realize how little of a difference that is right + hes still more expensive hes the sole definition of an inf unit 😭

for how much of a grind he is to get why should he be doing a measly 45k when you have ishtar doing almost as much for like half the grind

[silver crow]

Also read the suggestion, monarch carried units getting added is just making the game less enjoyable for f2ps without monarchs

[quick stirrup]

How much dps does a normal aizen do

Compared to a normal gojo

Including gojos domain dps and aizens passive

[silver crow]

Normal gojo with domain dps does about 55k - 60k and aizens abillity is a cc so his dps stays at 45k

[quick stirrup]

Passive

Not ability

The aura one

[silver crow]

Aura passive?

Hard to calculate it but its about like 1% of his dps every second

when ur really close

to him

[quick stirrup]

Um

Do you have ss

Of both

I can do the calculations myself

Ig

[silver crow]

i dont have a ss of both but you can try to find his passive to read it thoroughly

[quick stirrup]

Alr

[silver crow]

i just know the damage stats of both and what they do

Traitless +godly damage for aizen

[quick stirrup]

Alr

Traitless gojo Z+ stats

[silver crow]

this is godly damage gojo without passive

cause wiki didnt count his passive stats

[quick stirrup]

What’s his passive multiplayers

+20% dmg and -10% spa right?

[silver crow]

yea and the limitless one

[quick stirrup]

I’ll assume it’s 15 waves for limitless multipler

[silver crow]

yes

[quick stirrup]

Would you count the 10% spa decrease

Aizen gets from his second passive?

Aizen
3.6k dps
44 range

Passive 1- 82% dmg if in 40% of his range
500 dps —> 37,310 dps

Aizen total dps after including passive
41k dps (minimum)

Gojo
3.9k dps
41 range

Gojo ability void +50% dmg for 10 seconds(or just 1 attack) every 60 seconds
Or 0.85% dps increase

Gojo dps 3.9k dps —-> 3.95k dps

Anyhow

Only comparing if you placed 1 of each unit

No traits

Etc

Aizen 41k dps(minimum)
Gojo 4K dps
@silver crow

[warped bane]

azien is very good

ichigo is like a mid/ok unit

[quick stirrup]

Aizen stomps gojo

[warped bane]

he needs sum type of dmg buff but his element is cosmic he prob wouldnt

[quick stirrup]

Unless I calc aizens aura passive wrong

Cause I don’t really know how it works

[candid crystal]

It steadily increases to 80%

[silver crow]

maybe

[candid crystal]

basically when they reach 40% of his range they start taking damage every second ranging from 1% to 80% of his current damage stat depending on how close they are to him

[quick stirrup]

So if they reach the peak of 80% does it start going down the farther the enemies get?

[candid crystal]

you can then use his wall to maximize that damage by freezing the enemy in that area where the damage is 80%

[candid crystal]

yes

[quick stirrup]

Ohhh

Ok

Even still if you evenly spread of aizens first passive, it easily outperforms gojo

[silver crow]

fair

[candid crystal]

gojo wins in price though

[quick stirrup]

Idk you can probably brute force most 15 wave stages with aizen

Since he does immaculate dmg

[silver crow]

wait

how does that raise it to 37k dps

js curious

[quick stirrup]

Fyi
If we take the medium of aizens first passive he does roughly 22k dps

[quick stirrup]

82% of 45 500 dmg

Which is 37k

Every second

[silver crow]

oh

makes sense now

[quick stirrup]

But that’s only at its peak

[silver crow]

yeah only at its peak

[quick stirrup]

But the medium is 22k

Which still absolutely stomps gojo

Aizen does 5.5x gojos dps

And aizen has better cc abilities

[silver crow]

ok so that makes more sense

[quick stirrup]

I don’t think he needs a buff

[silver crow]

not all bleach units need a buff im aware of that

and aizen proven more than enough he doesnt

[quick stirrup]

I’m pre sure the only unit that needs a buff is uryu

[limber oasis]

woah buddy

[quick stirrup]

He actually looks completely buns

[silver crow]

ichigo looks buns too

[quick stirrup]

Ichigos is fine

[silver crow]

Only decent with sakura

[quick stirrup]

Once the roster of units gets filled out more

Ichigo can shine better

[limber oasis]

guys who are the actual new units i should get

[silver crow]

Kisuke too might need a damage buff his damage is too low

ik he can do wounded with another unit but dang

hes only circle aoe

[quick stirrup]

Aizen, Ywach, Yamamoto, Lucy are must haves

Kisuke if you don’t have alucard

Orehime is a decent buffer

Yoruichi, David and kenpachi are good but low priority

Ichigo, uryu are mediocre
Ichigo is decent but uryu is buns

[limber oasis]

i love yamamoto

my goat

[silver crow]

Yoruichi is actually insane dps and stun ngl

[quick stirrup]

I can’t really speak to much on her cause I haven’t seen her numbers

Only her passives

Just seems like a much better sasuke

[silver crow]

I have her evo'd with godly damage and solar but her damage is amazing

her dps looks low at first but her spa makes her op with her short time attack

[quick stirrup]

How would you compare her to the 3.5 meta

Of Gogeta, Ragna, salter saber

In terms of pure dmg

[silver crow]

Pure dmg? well i dont know salters regular stats because i dont have her without monarch but ill check so i can give a good unbiased comparison

I would say

Better than ragna and salter but worse than gogeta in pure damage

[scenic pendant]

horrible suggestion
aizen and yhwach are meta defining

[quick stirrup]

That’s pretty crazy

Now I actually need to see her numbers

How about with Sakura + salter combo

(Although it’s bugged)

[silver crow]

uryu and ichigo are horrible and a majority of units from previous and current updates need monarch to be good

[pastel saddle]

i need my ichigo buffed NOW.

[silver crow]

Yoruichi probably still does better

[quick stirrup]

Holy

[scenic pendant]

wow not every unit is a meta breaker and the harder units are the ones that power creep stuff like gogeta

why is there no new legendary unit with 4 bil dmg

grrr

[silver crow]

Shes immune to status ailments on placement

[quick stirrup]

Yoruichi?

[silver crow]

kisuke is also horrible

[silver crow]

es

yes

[scenic pendant]

uryu is extremely trash but ichigo is a good decent unit
aizen and yhwach are op and powercrept the game

[quick stirrup]

💔

[scenic pendant]

he got added because some people didnt have alucard

[quick stirrup]

Then why are asking for buffs my boy, I would say the only unit that actually needs monarch to be good is Yamamoto

Otherwise the rest of bleach units perform really well without it

[silver crow]

still buns damage wise ngl

[quick stirrup]

Although I cant deny the monarch shill for salter and Gogeta

[scenic pendant]

a support unit is buns dmg wise? who would've guessed

[silver crow]

hes a circle aoe he has almost 0 use unless your a fein for wounded

then u have alucard

[scenic pendant]

u only use the cone obv

and hes for people without alucard

i just said that

[limber oasis]

do you guys reckon if i stay in the boss event while it hits 00:00 ill stay in it

[silver crow]

only saw his last attack so didnt see the cone aoe

[scenic pendant]

only unit that really needs a buff is uryu

[scenic pendant]

ok well he has cone line and circle

[quick stirrup]

Yeah

[wary tendon]

fr i was hyped since ichigo was the main charcater then i saw 18k 💔

[split vault]

even so you can just set priorities and extend the effectiveness of his wounded to be basically the same

[silver crow]

ichigo as an mc feels underwhelming

[wary tendon]

fr

[quick stirrup]

Naruto and goku as an mc feel underwhelming 😔

[scenic pendant]

naruto:

[pastel saddle]

buff my goat ichigo +300% damage 5 placement and +500% damage ability

[wary tendon]

he should do 35k dmg and for each life stock increase 10k

[silver crow]

atleast he was meta at one point 💔

[wary tendon]

this would be acceptable

[scenic pendant]

when lol

[wary tendon]

😭

[pastel saddle]

he’s mythic tho

[silver crow]

reease

[quick stirrup]

His ass was NOT meta

[scenic pendant]

he was NOT meta on release

[quick stirrup]

Even on release

[scenic pendant]

he got buffed at update 0.5 for a reason

[wary tendon]

yea i mean hi is good

[scenic pendant]

🤦‍♂️

[tawny stream]

Uryu is worst.

[silver crow]

he was doing 14k on release and was relatively cheap

[wary tendon]

all units are good if used right

[tawny stream]

💀

[scenic pendant]

that was post buff at update 0.5

[wary tendon]

they did him dirty

[silver crow]

thought it was release

[scenic pendant]

after his passive got changed he was awful till the buff

he was never meta

[quick stirrup]

They should just release a unit that can replenish 1-2 stocks per match instead of straight up buffing his stats

[pastel saddle]

where are my buffs 🤬🤬

[tawny stream]

Uryu is supposed to be like top 3 Quincy in the whole TYBW, but he only have damage of a legendary unit.

[scenic pendant]

only unit that needs a buff is uryu
2k dps lmao

[tawny stream]

☠️

[wary tendon]

honestly im using all my units for aizen

[quick stirrup]

No new unit is getting buffed (uryu is the exception)

[wary tendon]

couldnt care less about them

[silver crow]

i was mostly concerned over aizen imo

[split vault]

ichigos 2nd passive needs something more

[wary tendon]

the bp unit are better 😭

[silver crow]

but i didnt get his passive till now

[tawny stream]

🔥

[fluid acorn]

Ichigo needs 3rd passive ngl

[bright root]

David is good?

[quick stirrup]

Pretty solid

[wary tendon]

so good

[pastel saddle]

no he needs 5

[quick stirrup]

I genuinely believe Lucy is meta

[silver crow]

lucy and david r amazing

[bright root]

My GOAT got the treatment he deserve ❤️

[scenic pendant]

goat

[bright root]

Better caster lol

[pastel saddle]

8.9 spa 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[tawny stream]

Basically Dabo 81 makes him the best dps in the game for like 15 seconds. (If you use it in like 20 enemies)

[quick stirrup]

Water element is once again trash for another patch

[knotty brook]

8.9 spa is not a goat for uryu

[wary tendon]

fr I WAS SO HAPPY

[quick stirrup]

Exactly

[scenic pendant]

nah 1.9k dps is goated

his first passive doesnt even work rn

[split vault]

nerf uryu its insane how op he is

[knotty brook]

what? try putting saber alt cause uryu makes negative stats to positive stats

[wary tendon]

wdym goat 😭

[pastel saddle]

pls make uryu secret

[tawny stream]

Only works for saber alter debuff.

[wary tendon]

u dont have to act we know u mad

[wary tendon]

huh he should be leg

nah im jk

[tawny stream]

And add a active skill, like “silver arrow”.

[wary tendon]

tho honestly he should get buffed at least 25k

[scenic pendant]

i mean quake bypasses it even though hes meant to not have any negative status effect

[tawny stream]

He is like 2 times more expensive than Ichigo but has three times less damage/DPS.

☠️

[split vault]

uryu is way too expensive for what hes worth

[knotty brook]

they need to change uryu passive - specifcally the negative stat to positive stat passive its useless

[tawny stream]

We need in the bleach part 2, a evo Uryu secret with a voltstading.

[tawny stream]

Just add more to the first and second passive.

“For every debuff in this unit he gains +5% more damage or something”

[knotty brook]

how can you maximize uryu passive if he can attack at anywhere on map

[tawny stream]

Just uses a D range Uryu.

[silver crow]

ima edit this post because some of the units are good they just had confusing passives

[tawny stream]

I got it now, just makes his second passive have some buff for more far he is from the enemies more damage he does.

[knotty brook]

thats a good suggestion tho

[tawny stream]

With a cap of 150% more damage.

Now Uryu is meta.

[silver crow]

EDIT from the suggestion at the top: I WAS wrong about aizen and yes i know yhwach is good, my point now only is to stop adding so many units that are only usable with monarch. (A good example is gilga) and to consider traitless stat increases instead of monarch stats indirect increases using passives are a good start though.

[bright root]

Gng have you seen sunshine weather?

Every 1/2 attacks your units get debuffed by 100%

With uryu its almost a guaranteed win

[waxen dew]

Buff uryu

[silver crow]

our prayers have been answered💔💔

[split vault]

i mean its still a solid buff

now sakura isnt a requirement

2nd passive still needs changes

and uryu needs something

[dry wadi]

He needs a massive buff

His only use rn is to sacrifice him for Aizen

[split vault]

yeah there is no reason at all to bring him in a team

infinite range can be cool but not when it makes him complete fodder