Future / Past Buffer units

[golden ruin]

OR instead of doing this just make the next buffer come out apart of an event that never goes away and is decently hard to do that way everyone has access to a well rounded support option and its not just OG players always having an advantage.

OR (another one lmao) idk just toss a dude in the normal banners that gets buffed here and there to keep up with the game

[hushed spruce]

ishtar is a buffer that is obtainable, though she only buffs fate units
but yea having obtainable buffers is a good idea imo, makes it actually possible for newer players to compete in tournaments and other stuff like that

[inner horizon]

well esdeath and ishtar

[hushed spruce]

esdeath isnt really a buffer
shes a buffer in the same way that archer is

and her buff doesnt even work rn😭

[inner horizon]

oh really

was un familiar

[hushed spruce]

last i checked yea
might have been fixed idk

[golden ruin]

I wouldnt exactly call ishtar a buffer, she ONLY has synergy with a few mid units, esdeath also only buffs 1 unit and its not consistent to my knowledge, its also another worldlines unit that will go away

Future / Past Buffer units

like I dont run any fate units lol so ishtar dosnt do anything for me, and having RIN on my team is overall a much better choice then esdeath because they give all my units (in range) a 18% dmg buff and a 10% range buff

[hushed spruce]

yea just checked again still doesnt work

[golden ruin]

but my entire point is say in the future im doing a tourny and some people in my bracket dont have a buffer unit im at an overall advantage that they cant really obtain

regardless, yall get the point, id love to hear other peoples opinions on this matter

(Im deffintly salty I never got the dude from last worldlines, I WAS LITERALLY 3 FLOORS AWAY!)

[warped willow]

I'm salty too bro. This suggestion is a w

[regal oasis]

Yeah but never suggest again what is in the original post

[golden ruin]

if your referring to my element reaction suggestion ik im right yall just dont get it

[regal oasis]

No, im talking about making rin and subaru comeback

That isnt right and would be unfair for the people who got them in time

I much prefer your second option

[golden ruin]

ah I see mb, I dont think it would be that bad it would just need proper compensation

[autumn hollow]

You called saber, Gilgamesh, and Salter mid 😭

[golden ruin]

uhhh

ima keep it a buck

ion watch fate

mb gilgagoat

regardless! you get the point

[regal oasis]

Isnt a matter of watching or not that goated series

Its about testing the towers

And those 3 mentioned are in the meta, gilgamesh not that much

[golden ruin]

they wont be in the meta forever, and when they move on so will ishtar, the issue is we do not have a buffer unit everyone can use

[sterile spoke]

theres currently 3 buff units, subaru, haruka, and fubuki. The first two were exclusives through battlepass/worldlines that reset, giving them outfor free would be stupid, they are EXCLUSIVE for a reason

[golden ruin]

They where already "free" so it really wouldn't be that stupid, also if you'd like to do us all a favor and fully read a post before responding it would help, im aware most would find that to be "unfair" even though it really isnt, so I added an alternative to my suggestion, another thing im gonna keep it real nobody really considers fubuki a buffer unit, all they do is lower spa by 5% and thats on its own isnt worth taking a space for a unit, when talking about BUFFERS most people are referring to dmg howeer with regnaw being around right now I think its alright to consider her one.

[scenic rock]

Event that doesn't go away? What kind of event is that? Just put in the regular banner and all good. Overall very good suggestion

[scenic rock]

Gilgamesh is pretty mid ngl

[tall elbow]

is this a joke?

we have so many buff units in the game rn 💀

[scenic rock]

dmg buffers

Dmg specifically that always buff units within their range

[tall elbow]

then why didnt he suggest something similar to erwin/wenda/leafy?

so much yapping

[scenic rock]

Doesnt mean he's wrong tho

Good suggestion

[scenic rock]

?

[scenic rock]

Hmm good point yea

[regal tulip]

cap

[tall elbow]

dawg

bfr

[regal tulip]

idk about making the old units obtainable

[regal tulip]

we literally

have 2

hes bugging on making haruka and subaru obtainable

but we have 2 buff units

[true swift]

No players who r gonna play in the future wud want the 3 dps buffers to be unobtainable tho

Subaru,haruka,fubuki

All 3 unobtainable dawg😭

And adding more buffers wud be diabolical

Sooo they better not do more dps buffers and make the 3 buffers obtainable units

[regal oasis]

No, you just have to make new permanent buffers thats all.

[scenic rock]

Nah

Make new ones

Thats stupid

They're exclusive

[true swift]

Or js go by what AA did

Make the obtainable ones a different variant of the same unit

[regal tulip]

we do actually need a free dps buffer though

[true swift]

Yeaa we do adding more wud as I said diabolical😭😭so js do what AA did

Make a new unit variant which gives the same buffs as haruka,Subaru and fubuki,but the original ones r different from these units

[regal oasis]

Then wouldnt just that be a skin pretty much? You need to change values on the new unit to atleast work a bit different

[true swift]

Well yes What AA did with a buff unit was they made the exclusive unit tradable,while they made a different variant of the buff unit which was in banner

[hushed spruce]

and it kinda ruined the value of the unit
so maybe we try to avoid doing that and instead make buff units that are obtainable

[true swift]

Yea... but if they dint do that the value of oshi wud have skyrocketed,making it locked for players who play for competition and not value because they are not able to afford her.

And adding new buff units will be diabolical for the amount of buff units there already are

[hushed spruce]

yea and thats exactly whats happening to homura😭
making old buffers obtainable is good for balance, but its not good for trading which you prob dont want to mess with
but either way something needs to be done cuz competing in most endgame stuff just isnt possible rn without subaru

and honestly i dont think adding new permanent buffers would be that bad of an idea, its not like adding more buffers would really break the game (could affect inf but uh lets not talk about that)
just dont make them crazy powercreep

[true swift]

Yeaa their value will be ruined which does sound bad , but the point of the game is actual gameplay. So id say it's better they do what AA did or find some kind of solution

[true swift]

Yeaa adding buffers don't seem bad,but if they add buffers like griffin and Erwin from AA yea that's where the problem arises

[hushed spruce]

yea i dont want that
just units similar to subaru/hakura's buffing abilities so newer players can stand a chance at doing endgame stuff
anything but 100% buffing, one of the worst td features ive seen

[true swift]

Yea trueee it does make sense when they add new buffers with similar dps increase to haruka/subaru

[mellow shell]

yeah i feel bad for not grinding him

[true swift]

But yee it does affect their value But doesn't matter ig coz infinite exists

[true swift]

Calling homura a him is crazy

[mellow shell]

i was talking about subaru

[true swift]

Oh mb

[vocal sentinel]

no my haruka rin and 2 subarus need they value for trading

[prisma yacht]

2 subarus ??

[vocal sentinel]

yes 2

[true swift]

Yea there was a bug

Sm ppl got subaru's portal again when they got isdead's portal

[vocal sentinel]

dawg making me sound like a bug abuser when it was the games fault

[vocal sentinel]

thats not how i actually got a 2nd subaru

[hushed spruce]

now that i think about it make subaru a obtainable variant so the people who got bugged subarus cant proffit🙏

[true swift]

That cud ve been me😭

[true swift]

Dint say u are one lol

[vocal sentinel]

im not a bug abuser 💀

[true swift]

Oh nah?my friend got his portal like that lol

[vocal sentinel]

basically when subaru dropped his portal was mega buggy

[true swift]

I did not allege that u are one😭😭

Ah yea that

[vocal sentinel]

i got the evo item but not subaru

[true swift]

Kk

[hushed spruce]

same thing happened to me but im sitting here with only 1 subaru

[vocal sentinel]

and they did something which gave us another portal + subaru for those who had his evo item without him

so i have 3 of his evo item and 2 of him

and thats the case for many

[true swift]

I had 3 of his evo item but only 1 subaru😭😭

But yeaa My friend got subaru's portal alongside isdead's portal somehow and has 2 noe

[golden ruin]

Yea that's kinda what I meant, not all events have to go away though it's a strange topic to explain

[golden ruin]

The biggest reason I made this suggestion right here, someone got the point!

[scenic rock]

Strange yea

[golden ruin]

You should get banned for exploiting a bug to have 2 sabarus

Regardless, outside of 1 dude everyone's been chill, appreciate that

[golden ruin]

We have 2 dmg buffers both who are unobtainable, what are you on 💀

[vocal sentinel]

Exploiting 💀 not my fault the game aint give me my subaru after i beat the portal

[scenic rock]

Tbh its devs fault mostly

[golden ruin]

You chose to keep it! Death sentence

[vocal sentinel]

Its entirely the devs fault on that one

[golden ruin]

Nu uh, have some morals!

[vocal sentinel]

Jealous much?

[golden ruin]

Yes

[scenic rock]

Lmao

[golden ruin]

I was floor 47 when servers shut down

Literally broke my keyboard

3 floors away and I'm not able to be relevant in any tournament until a new buffer drops

[vocal sentinel]

You had a whole MONTH

Your fault

[golden ruin]

I have a job, school, friends

Something most call a life

AV isn't my life

[vocal sentinel]

J*b? Whats that?

[scenic rock]

Imagine getting banned because bug that isn't well made by devs 💀

[vocal sentinel]

The grind wasnt even that long

[golden ruin]

Erm totally fair

[vocal sentinel]

You could do like 30 mins per day for 10 days and you would get him

[golden ruin]

It's a 5 hour grind of doing annoying matches

[vocal sentinel]

I got him after 2 days 💀 2.5 hours each day aint even that much

[golden ruin]

And they also had the peak ddd event up

[vocal sentinel]

"peak" that was painful to play thank god i got my diavolo in under 80k

[golden ruin]

💀

Yea gtfo

Spoon feed player trying to share opinions

[scenic rock]

Esdeath?

[vocal sentinel]

Esdeath i got on release day

[scenic rock]

Oh

[golden ruin]

Yea I should make a statement saying if you don't have a life don't speak here

So uh

See your way out plz 🙏

[scenic rock]

Well as a Casual player I'm not getting very grindy units fr

[golden ruin]

Ong

Don't get me wrong I grind hard

But still

Not being able to play tournaments because I missed a unit is crazy unfair

[vocal sentinel]

This used to be my inventory so stfu

[scenic rock]

Oh dang

[true swift]

Yea

They shud add buffers

But this will kinda power creep inf

But wtv igs

[golden ruin]

Wow you started playing the game! Good for you, stfu

[scenic rock]

Solid tbh. I didn't even had max level units so yea lol

[vocal sentinel]

I been playing since september 💀

[golden ruin]

What point are you trying to make bro

[vocal sentinel]

Got deadeye tengen in like october and got my first monarch in late december

[vocal sentinel]

That im not spoonfed

[golden ruin]

80k into a 0.005

Monarch in december

Must be nice

First monarch was 2 weeks ago on a summoned rare Naruto

I'm just him

[vocal sentinel]

And than getting 2 monarchs in 2 days on salter and diavolo 💯

[golden ruin]

Exactly, stfu

[scenic rock]

Dang

[vocal sentinel]

My 2nd monarch was a summoned momo with monarch

[golden ruin]

Regardless, like I said you have no point your just trying to flex

[true swift]

I can flex more bro

Come to the point

[vocal sentinel]

Correct

[scenic rock]

Lmao

[vocal sentinel]

This suggestion useless ash they arent gonna make limited time units available all of a sudden

[true swift]

They will prolly make new buff units

That's good enough for this suggestion

[true swift]

Which r not limited

[vocal sentinel]

Make all buff units limited and give them to me only

[true swift]

Lmaoooooooo trading when released in this game gonna be like AA rerelease

[vocal sentinel]

Trading my monarch diavolo for shiny monarch gogeta with full prefect godlys

[true swift]

Traits aren't gonna be tradable ykk

[scenic rock]

Yea

Only limited exclusives I think

[true swift]

Nah

All the units which r unobtainable

Will be tradable

[golden ruin]

Like I said to another guy, if you read the post fully you'd see that isn't the point of the post

[prisma yacht]

they js baiting dawg 😭 chill

[viscid ginkgo]

id acutally crash out if they bring back haruka and subaru but they should just add buffers that everyone can get

and fubuki and esdeath are also obtainable rn

[golden ruin]

why, it wouldnt hurt you at all :| but yes I agree other buffers would be fine

[golden ruin]

fubuki isnt a dmg buffer and is only worth bringing for regnaw
esdeath is inconsistent asf

and both are unreliable for tournys / inf

[viscid ginkgo]

it would. its just nice to have units that no one else does its like having a trophy

[golden ruin]

How would it hurt you in gameplay terms, personal feelings have nothing to do with the topic

[copper mulch]

Uh

[vocal sentinel]

Its completely his fault for not getting those units, you didnt even need to grind all day for the units you could play like 20 mins a day and still get them

[golden ruin]

and if anything if thats the issue your having with this would getting compensation for the unit, something others wouldnt have be okay?

[golden ruin]

yes?

[vocal sentinel]

Waguri pfp 🫶

[copper mulch]

Ion know how I feel about stripping the title of exclusive from a unit

[golden ruin]

why

[copper mulch]

They’ll be unit that buff other units in the future that won’t be limited

[copper mulch]

Can’t wait for the new chapters
It’s killing me

[vocal sentinel]

Haruka rin is an EXCLUSIVE unit which you had 2 months to get

[golden ruin]

I have rin, can you lowkey just stfu and move on

[vocal sentinel]

Ong ong the anime coming out later this year is gonna be so peak

[golden ruin]

your not doing anything here but rage baiting and crying while trying to flex

[copper mulch]

REAL

[vocal sentinel]

Cool than you had a whole month for subaru

[golden ruin]

we dont know that, you dont know that

[copper mulch]

True
But I’m still uncomfortable of the idea of changing a unit’s tier to something else

[golden ruin]

some people have jobs/schoo/friends/family, something called a life and dont want to spend 5+ hours playing an annoying mode, if you cant comprehend this and want to keep rage baiting im just going to block you, if you keep trying after that ill ask a mod to do something

[golden ruin]

Okay but why T-T

[vocal sentinel]

5 hours out of 730 hours per month

[golden ruin]

you've been blocked

[pine sinew]

I agree with this suggestion until the part of bringing back exclusives, but i feel like standard/always obtainable units should always be better than exclusives no matter what. An easy fix is just putting a buff unit in the banner thats is just better than the current buffer units (btw this goes to the familiars too, the only way to obtain them is through events lol)

[golden ruin]

^^^ that

Adding a buff a unit that sits in the pool with the others and is better or equal to the exclusives would be perfect

[copper mulch]

Think you should just argue about adding a buffer to banner

But ion that make much of an impact since it’s kinda how most games go

[placid halo]

Yeah, unobtainable is unobtainable
Go for a banner buffer

[pine sinew]

True, they could go for the ol' reliable (adding the girl from oshi no ko)

[copper mulch]

How do you not know her name

Blocked

[vocal sentinel]

Banner buffer wont be good anyways since you dont have to put much effort into getting it

[pine sinew]

Ehm, ai¿

[regal tulip]

forgot her name too

[pine sinew]

People call her oshi so idk

[inner horizon]

Well you can always trade for them

[vocal sentinel]

Ai hoshino how yall not know her 😭 i aint even watch oshi no ko

[copper mulch]

[regal tulip]

i only remember ruby and aqua dawg

[pine sinew]

Same

[regal tulip]

anyway this suggestion needs to be reworded

cause they arent exclusives if they come back and stay forever

[pine sinew]

"Add a banner buffer"

[viscid ginkgo]

nah subaru takes like 5h

[regal tulip]

short, simple

[vocal sentinel]

Still easy to get when you have a whole month

[regal tulip]

that isnt long seeing that he was 100% chance to obtain and you had a while to get him

[vocal sentinel]

And floors 0-50 are a complete joke

[pine sinew]

Real, just do 5 floors a day and u good

[golden ruin]

that was apart of the suggestion in the OR part if i remember right

[placid halo]

Floor 60 🥶

[regal tulip]

could litearlly do 2 a day and still get it

[vocal sentinel]

Ok floor 59-60 last season was a diff beast

[regal tulip]

yeah but the bringing exlcusives part is whats making people debate in the suggestion

[pine sinew]

It was the sbr map right? Literally unplayable without gogeta

[golden ruin]

True, I dont see the problem with it thats the thing though, its really not that big of a deal.

like I gotta keep it real

[copper mulch]

Get out

[golden ruin]

if an "exclusive unit" has a place in your heart you gotta step outside

[placid halo]

Getting told a limited item is going to no longer be limited is a scam

[golden ruin]

hows it a scam? they are free

like id get it if they had paywalls

but they dont, and id assume a majority of players have said units outside of newer players or those who just didnt have time

[regal tulip]

its one of the selling points of farming for it

[golden ruin]

true

I feel like thats only a small portion of it though

[regal tulip]

not really

[golden ruin]

we are talking about buffers

[regal tulip]

if gogeta was coming back you think people would still be farming it

hell naw

[golden ruin]

thats not the same thing at all

not even close

[placid halo]

[regal tulip]

how is it not the same thing

[vocal sentinel]

Remember how they begged to delay the update to get diavolo?

[golden ruin]

Rin and sobo are easy to grind buffer units that play an important role in the game and will be in meta for a very long time assuming AV follows its current path

gogeta is 0.005% unit that not many people have and is only really a game changer with monarch or other high T buffs

not to mention on a perfect day you only get 2 summons on said banner ever 7 minutes

[placid halo]

You mean multi?

[golden ruin]

yea multi mb

I just kinda say summon

but still, the difference in giving everyone a buffer unit vs giving everyone a gogeta is insane

they both impact the game in different ways, buffers would make things more fair and tournys possible for everyone

[regal tulip]

that is true but that doesnt dispute the fact that one of the selling points is that its limited and randomly readding it ontop of keeping it permanently doesnt make sense

[golden ruin]

gogeta would just break scaling

and again that is true

but im personally looking at things for the sake of the game and balacning not personal opinion

or well

yes personal opinion, but not like "omg i wanna be the only person to have rin"

[regal tulip]

making limiteds randomly obtainable again is NOT good for the sake the game ALOT of people would be mad

they can just make the new buffers

[golden ruin]

we keep looping

I dont agree its bad for the game, I agree they should just make new buffers

[regal tulip]

its about how itll affect the community

[golden ruin]

in the short term sure some people would be but hurt, alot of people would cry and break down, but long term (assuming we DONT get banner buffers, which we have yet to get) it would help the game thrive, newer players would stay instead of seeing exclusive units that MATTER in meta and walk away knowing they have no chance of climbing the boards

[viscid ginkgo]

theyd loose current players

[prisma yacht]

@golden ruin atp just make ur second idea ur main suggestion, cuz its pretty clear that no one agrees with making limited units available again
It legit doesnt even make sense to do that

Absolutely nothing weong with the idea of having new buff units being summonable

Really good idea
every atd game does that, i would guess that av intends to do the same in the future

[smoky wadi]

Saber, Lancer, Gilgamesh, Salter. “Mid units?

[true swift]

Not mid rn but later on they will be powercrept

[smoky wadi]

Probably

But saber is still pretty high tier rn

[true swift]

Yea but the point was this so Ishtar cannot be considered a buffer🙏

[golden ruin]

I dont think that would happen, maybe for a day or two for cope but they would come back.

[golden ruin]

true, ill probably leave it just make sure something points towards the second part

[golden ruin]

who tf is lancer bro

[smoky wadi]

Cu Chu Lainn

[golden ruin]

oh

[prisma yacht]

Cool cool

[storm lark]

what is this bum suggestion we don't care if u played the game late dawg it's not our fault if u don't have the 2 buffers😂😂

[golden ruin]

Your so mad your suggestion is 1-6 with stars to L's

lock tf in bro I benefit the game your just trying to shit on bleach fans

[storm lark]

i have haruka and 2 subaru tho😂🙏

[golden ruin]

thanks for the free bump broski

[vocal sentinel]

strawbery dont waste your time on this guy he blocked me when i said this is a bad suggestion

[golden ruin]

spin on it blocked bro, your blocked because instead of trying to make a point you just talked shit and tried to flex

thanks for another free bump

just like that other dipshit is lol

[regal oasis]

Why block him if you are gonna check his messages anyway

[golden ruin]

its the only time ive clicked on it out of the many hes sent me, blocking him stops him from dming/pining/ other annoying things

but if hes gonna try and twist my words in a suggestion I gotta defend my post

[true swift]

Disabling vital units for the endgame wud discourage new players to not grind the endgame, which is certainly not something a developer would want. I'm pretty sure they have smthin in mind to bring back previous buffers

[golden ruin]

I never said anything about disabling units, also I doubt they are gonna bring them back, more then likely just going to add new ones via more "limited time events" or just throw one in banner that just gets forever buffed as time goes on.

[true swift]

What I meant by disabling is that players wud not be able to get the buffer units due to their unobtainable status

I assume they r gonna do what AA did oshy

Atleast for haruka

[golden ruin]

that would also be fine though

[true swift]

Yeaa traders and even competitive players will not be happy about this

But oh well

[golden ruin]

screw em ngl

its rare for people like that to even be good for a game long term

[true swift]

Meh not rlly, AA critiques r like very good at the game lol

I assume it's the same for Avg

But yeaaaa the devs care abt the game sooo pretty sure smthin is gonna happen with the buff units

[prime mural]

Is Lancer mid? Is Saber mid? Is Gilgamesh mid? Is Salter mid? NO, THEY ARE ALL AT THE TOP OF THE META, this proves that you don't even know what you are talking about

[golden ruin]

they are not ALL at the top of the meta

and regardless this post ISNT ABOUT THEM

[true swift]

Well I think he worded that wrong,in the future these units are not gonna be in the meta at all

In like 5 months all of em will be replaced

The only fate unit who wud stay in meta is archer

[prime mural]

alucard still exists and is the best buff in the game.

[golden ruin]

I only use ONE of those units and thats ONLY for portals, they arnt that useable

as for alucard no they arnt T_T

its a 0.005 my guy

they arnt fair to use in this conversation like be fr

[true swift]

Alucard is still obtainable

If ppl do wanna compete in endgame

They wud grind it

[prime mural]

yes, and it has existed since the beginning of the game.

[golden ruin]

T-T

[true swift]

But as for haruka and subaru,not grindable at all

[golden ruin]

my guy im like 2m gems deep

no alucard

[true swift]

I've totally spent 600k and I have him

[golden ruin]

a 0.005 isnt something we can use/should use when talking about viability

[true swift]

It's ur luck ig

[golden ruin]

must be nice

[prime mural]

Anyway, how come you didn't get the Subaru? It was in the game for a long time.

[prime mural]

since update 2 it exists

[golden ruin]

I couldnt play during a majority of the worldline

and the little I did play was spent on DDD event since it was on a 2x and I wasnt aware the wordline was changing

wordlines is a 5hour grind IF you never fail a run and do them as fast as possible, at the time I couldnt do that, regardless even if I had them id still be making this suggestion though

[prime mural]

each worldline lasts about 1 month, the subaru lasted 3 or 4

[true swift]

Nah subaru lasted 2 months

[golden ruin]

was about to say 3-4 is not real

regardless its still a matter of the future game, my point for this post is people who dont have those units for whatever reason cant take part in tournys / inf because of it

and its not fair for those players

[scenic rock]

Lowkey we can use a buff unit for like weather (the unit buff units with weather like wc) for example the weather is the unit buffing those certain units in range etc

Nvm watch ywatch be a buff unit what am I tapping about lmao

[golden ruin]

I have no idea what u just said

[scenic rock]

Yk how their weather in world collide

Their will be a buff unit based on weather

Like madara will buff units in the inf eye thingy weather for those based units

As a unit

[golden ruin]

I think we just need a buff unit that ya know

buffs units

[scenic rock]

Yea nvm what am I yappin about lmao

Bump

🤣

I’m going crazy

[golden ruin]

I feel ya lol

I think thats a cool concept though

a unit that like counters the stage weather

[scenic rock]

Yea or just is the unit weather in general

[golden ruin]

ye

[scenic rock]

Bumpy

[safe basin]

yeah let’s add an event to bring back LIMITED exclusives cause you missed it for the months that they were there

just add more buffers and leave the exclusives ones exclusive

[golden ruin]

man its almost like you guys just dont like to read

[quasi charm]

no

[golden ruin]

ah yes, lets never add anymore buffers to the game

genius

[quasi charm]

there's no point of making any of 2 existing buffers obtainable

[golden ruin]

I mean there is

[quasi charm]

.

[safe basin]

it’s almost like that’s what I said

🤯

crazy world right

[quasi charm]

adding new buffers will make ragna op, so they'll hav to nerf him LOL

[safe basin]

new buffs will obviously be added

what?

[golden ruin]

your a fucking genius

[quasi charm]

you dont need any buffers, cuz already exists dds r enough. u r asking that js cuz u got ragna and didnt got buff units

[quasi charm]

they will, but they will be weak/upd will contain tagna nerf

[golden ruin]

see your just pulling "they will do this" shit out of your ass

[quasi charm]

thats way they wont add buff units near future

[golden ruin]

:|

[quasi charm]

cry bout this no buff unit guy))

[golden ruin]

I have buff units

[quasi charm]

u r inability to discuss is making me smile

[golden ruin]

your the one who hasnt given any points or reasoning what are you on?

[quasi charm]

u r js ignoring my main point

lol

[golden ruin]

your just saying "no to op"

what point 💀

[quasi charm]

🤡🤡🤡

[quasi charm]

that they wont add buff units without nerfing ragna

lilguy

and this wont be soon

[golden ruin]

Why would they nerf ragna

[safe basin]

ragna is already nerfed by having max 1 spa cap

[quasi charm]

cuz adding new buffers will make him insanely op

[golden ruin]

no it wouldnt 💀

[quasi charm]

for yk raids, tournaments with traitlea

[quasi charm]

yes, very argumented point bro

no it wouldn't

[safe basin]

ragna is ass for traitless do you even play tournaments

[quasi charm]

no it wouldn't

[golden ruin]

no matter how high you get his dmg up ragna alone wouldnt be able to solo tournys/inf

[quasi charm]

you r fucking genius

[golden ruin]

not to mention with no trait he isnt great

[hushed spruce]

yea cuz running 4 buffers and ragna would be meta😭

[golden ruin]

someone clearly dosnt have ragnaw

[quasi charm]

im actually a champion of one libro

[golden ruin]

for sure you are

[safe basin]

LOL

[quasi charm]

i can show u :n

[golden ruin]

the fact you think ragna alone with buffers could solo proves you arnt

[quasi charm]

can u js understand that u can switch buffers with eachother

idk whats so hard to understand

[golden ruin]

what are you on bro

[quasi charm]

if haruka rin buffs rng n dmg

[golden ruin]

Look my guy, either make a point or just stop talking :|

[quasi charm]

there will be another 2 stats buffer

[quasi charm]

ur suggestion is shit and u cant taking argument without shitting ur pants and genuinely raging on ppl

u didnt say a single pointed argument without any insults

xd

[safe basin]

adding more buff units and making them not unob

isn’t shit

[golden ruin]

when did i ever insult you?

[safe basin]

brain where at

[quasi charm]

oh yes

Where

[quasi charm]

ummm that look like a constructive dialogue

[golden ruin]

also you've yet to give any real points or reasoning other then "ragna op", when he really isnt

[quasi charm]

no passive aggression detected

[quasi charm]

ragna isnt op 😭😭😭

[golden ruin]

sarcasm isnt an insult, unless your just that sensitive (this is an insult)

[golden ruin]

... then what the fuck are you trying to get at

[quasi charm]

i see

[golden ruin]

also thats kinda the point in what I said dude T-T you just repeated my point back to me

[quasi charm]

u use sarcasm insults everytime u discussing someone constructively?

like

i didn't even say anything

to u personally

um

[golden ruin]

dude

the fuck are you going on about

[quasi charm]

😭😭😭

[golden ruin]

either make a point, or move on

[quasi charm]

how stupid are u

[golden ruin]

:|

[quasi charm]

the main point of mine: making new buffers will contain ragna nerf

ur answer: u r fucking genius ragna trash

0 arguments why he's trash

0 arguments why he wont break the game??

[safe basin]

Im reiterating your 2nd point is a lot better than the first

[quasi charm]

can u pls read something bout constructive diagnosis bro

if u can read ofx

[golden ruin]

ah mb I missunderstood what you where saying, yea im aware the 2nd option is alot more favorable but I still dont really see the harm in the 1st one, I personally dont think it would hurt the game at all

[quasi charm]

🥺🥺🥺🥺

the thing is

[safe basin]

?

[quasi charm]

ur suggestion actually useless

[golden ruin]

get what im saying?

[quasi charm]

cuz they will eventually add new units

so

[golden ruin]

bro

[quasi charm]

whats a point

[golden ruin]

just stop talking :|

[safe basin]

are you being serious

how are you this dumb

[golden ruin]

me or him?

[quasi charm]

yes no explanation

as i expected tho

0 iq rage baited kids glazing eachother

how funny ts

[golden ruin]

my guy, you've still yet to make a point

[quasi charm]

yes?😭😭

[safe basin]

him

[golden ruin]

dope

you get to read what I said a sec ago? or did it just get pushed up

[quasi charm]

.

[safe basin]

do you even know what rage bait means

rage baited kids makes NO sense

😭

[golden ruin]

oh boy here we go again

[quasi charm]

😭😭😭 quit glazing eachother and give exact arguement why not

[safe basin]

why not what?

[golden ruin]

🍿

[quasi charm]

why ragna isnt getting nerf is there will be any buff units

like

[golden ruin]

my guy do you even have ragnaw

[safe basin]

cause his spa is capped and you only have 4 slots to bring buffs

[quasi charm]

thats a question that u should answer instead of defending eachothers ass like cute little boyfriend couple

[safe basin]

why are you so dumb

[quasi charm]

yesss

[safe basin]

you will have to sacrifice EVERY unit slot to make him good

[golden ruin]

sounds like your just jealous you dont have a bf

ong

then you'd have no support

no farms

[quasi charm]

😭😭😭

[golden ruin]

and you'd just lose anyways

[quasi charm]

OMG

WHAT

[golden ruin]

because ragna alone wouldnt be able to solo that far

[safe basin]

yeah one ragna four buffs and one farm is so meta!

[golden ruin]

look buddy

[safe basin]

like no😭

[golden ruin]

I get high dmg stims your brain

but high dmg dosnt = win

[quasi charm]

um js the fact that ragna solo enough to solo any of boss rushes

isnt enough?

[safe basin]

he doesn’t

but ok

[quasi charm]

he does bro

i can prove u

any

[golden ruin]

the point in this thread, is mainly focused on newer players having a chance in tournys and leaderboard

boss rush is NOT HARD

and if you need a buffed ragna to beat it, thats just a you issue

[hushed spruce]

rem solos all the boss rushes
its not that ragna is insane, boss rush is just easy

[quasi charm]

so now using effectively team is an issue ?😭😭

[golden ruin]

the reason I say this is as of now, newer players who dont have a buffer unit dont stand as much as a chance in said events because of it, and its not something they could just summon for to fix

you are activly trying to make a point that has nothing to do with thread and is also just wrong

[placid halo]

trading will exist, end of discussion

[golden ruin]

That has literally nothing to do with what ive said, its not the end of the discussion because your not the person trying to have it

[tall elbow]

you don't need buff units to get top 5

i think ur just rage baiting

[placid halo]

bro thinks not having buffers is the end of the world, it aint that deep

[golden ruin]

Have you looked at leaderboards recently and seen the numbers being achieved? if you think people are doing those without having a buffer on your team especially for long infinite runs then you clearly talk more here then you play the game

[golden ruin]

When did I ever say that? following your logic me sharring my opinions and takes is the end of your world, its really not that deep

[placid halo]

sharing*

[golden ruin]

wow a grammar correction, the usual resort for someone with no real thoughts and just looking for attention

[tall elbow]

which lb r u talking about..

[placid halo]

if only you just read 😔

[golden ruin]

all of them :|

[tall elbow]

all of them?

what?

I don't see anyone using alucard or rin for boss rush tourney

[golden ruin]

those numbers are crazy high, last I checked some dude solo'd like 200 rounds

[safe basin]

which lb

inf?

[tall elbow]

who said u need to use suburu/haruka

just to get on the inf lb

ur not making any sense dawg

[safe basin]

u do

[tall elbow]

no you don't

[golden ruin]

Im making pleanty of sense you just dont know what point your trying to make

[safe basin]

ok get on inf lb with no buffs

go ahead

[golden ruin]

you've changed from tourny boss rush to inf lb in the blink of an eye before I even had the chance to respond

[golden ruin]

ong

[golden ruin]

also you are aware when you click on someones name on LB's it shows there active team, not the one they ran with, unless this has been changed

[safe basin]

a 38% dmg buff on every unit isnt needed for lb

alr...

[golden ruin]

ong people these dudes are acting like you can just go run for LB missing 38% dmg on units

for EVERY attack thrown you are down 38% dmg

[tall elbow]

alucard is

180%

[tall elbow]

i just did..?

worldlines

got me on lb

[safe basin]

i just said inf

😭

[golden ruin]

and now hes changed to worldlines

bro can not pick a topic

[safe basin]

ok now combine that with 38% from buffs

[golden ruin]

also worldlines is got to be the easiest thing to do LB's

all you gotta do is do rounds back to back

[tall elbow]

you told me

ALL lbs

LOOL

its you that said it..?

[golden ruin]

Thats fair, however since ive already stated that im mainly talking about tournys or infs

id assuming you'd know

but I forget most just show up, dont read anything, then talk shit

[safe basin]

this guy hates on EVERY suggestion

like EVERY

[golden ruin]

sounds about right

[tall elbow]

who said i'm hating on this suggestion?

[golden ruin]

also yes alucard is a "good buffer"

[tall elbow]

sound like another rage bait question 😂

[golden ruin]

but they arnt even a buffer

its support

[tall elbow]

like dawg you just came in here and automatically assume you know the main context or whatever so

[golden ruin]

they dont directly buff dmg units do, they make enemies take more dmg, most would say this is the same thing, its not

[safe basin]

whats with u and being obsessed with ragebait

[golden ruin]

ALSO

[safe basin]

everytime someone talks to u ragebait this ragebait that

[golden ruin]

alucard is a fucking 0.005% chance at pulling

on average thats 3m gems TO PULL SAID UNIT

[placid halo]

i mean... why wouldnt you run inf lbs with alucard?

[tall elbow]

youre spreading misinformation on my name 😂
if you're saying im not allowed to have opinions that can hurt your rep, i should just shut up in general?

[golden ruin]

Your right, let me just snap my fingers and pull alucard

[tall elbow]

what is that logic

lmao

[golden ruin]

what a genius

[safe basin]

youre always running inf lb with alucard, choso, 2 buffs

[safe basin]

its not misinformation

[tall elbow]

choso?

[golden ruin]

I forgot I could just say "av devs, please give me alucard"

[tall elbow]

nobody is running choso

[safe basin]

r u dumb

[tall elbow]

actually

it depends on the map

[safe basin]

no

[tall elbow]

but choso isnt required for all maps

[safe basin]

every map is running choso

[tall elbow]

that's not true

[safe basin]

yes it is

ask anyone on inf lb

[golden ruin]

yea im not sure this guy knows how inf plays out

[tall elbow]

they said no

they don't run choso on all maps

[safe basin]

whod u ask

[tall elbow]

I asked the high comp

the high comp..?

[golden ruin]

bro looked away from his monitor and looked back

[tall elbow]

look in the server

[golden ruin]

"yea bro, they said no"

[safe basin]

they didnt respond

[tall elbow]

yk the server exist right

so stop saying shit for no reason 😂

[golden ruin]

some random ass server 💀

[safe basin]

saying they said no when they didnt respond

lock in

[tall elbow]

it's not a random one,

even luckydragon is in it

[placid halo]

the god of ragebaiting 100/10

[tall elbow]

it's the only lb server out there

[golden ruin]

your still here so thank you

[tall elbow]

and i'd argue its the best one out there

[golden ruin]

If its the only one, it cant not be the best one

regardless this isnt the place for you to debate inf teams, the fact is buffer units are required for high yeild runs, and anyone who is saying otherwise is just lying to you OR has the best of the best set ups

[tall elbow]

okay, well you arent in one so you can't really say that

[golden ruin]

are you slow?

[tall elbow]

@safe basin

choso is not required for all maps

[safe basin]

brother hes not being serious

[tall elbow]

why would choso be used for all maps anyways

his dps is just too low

[safe basin]

he extends alucard wounded

[tall elbow]

but you have no evidence regarding this??

[golden ruin]

he didnt even awnswer your question

or reply to you

[tall elbow]

then why is choso never required..?

i'm even scrolling down

checking the other channels etc

idk man im not saying ur wrong but you have no proof either

[safe basin]

he extends alucard wounded and is the best full aoe bleed dps

😭

[tall elbow]

and you have no proof of that

that his dps is still up there

with alucard's buff + sukuno

[golden ruin]

ijay waut stop for a second

[safe basin]

i dont care this much to prove u wrongf

[golden ruin]

the one thing you just said tells me your stupid

[safe basin]

i know hes goated so idrc

[golden ruin]

DPS isnt the only important thing about a damn unit

[tall elbow]

okay, well you shouldn't spread misinformation if thats the case...

[tall elbow]

but it is..?

[golden ruin]

it really isnt

[tall elbow]

bleed are kinda bad in general now

[safe basin]

its not misinformation cause YOU dont know it

[tall elbow]

okay, so what's important for u

in lb runs

[golden ruin]

bleed isnt even the purpose for you bringing it

[tall elbow]

so what is choso's other purpose than

[golden ruin]

High dmg / slow-stun-repel / support / buffer

[safe basin]

extends alucard wounded

[golden ruin]

Choso as lucky has SAID extends alucards wounded

which causes enemies to take 20% more dmg

[safe basin]

alucard has terrible bleed by himself

[golden ruin]

from EVERYONE

[safe basin]

choso has the longest bleed

[tall elbow]

mhm, I don't know about that

most of your deaths comes from bosses

[golden ruin]

....

[safe basin]

no it doesnt

[tall elbow]

there are waves where its just basically unbeatable

[golden ruin]

just lock tf in

maybe get better support

stun/slow/freeze

stop starring at DPS and you'd understand that

however this thread isnt to teach you how to do good inf runs

so go learn elsewhere please and thank you 🙏

mb for being a doosh tho, discord does things to a man

[placid halo]

it was fun to read, so you're forgiven

[golden ruin]

im gonna unbutter your popcorn

[safe basin]

ppl r just

not very smart

hes getting flamed in the other server for calling choso ass rn

[golden ruin]

lmao

sometimes I expect to much from roblox players

like its a TD game, stratgy is one of the reasons I enjoy it

but half the shit I read

"high dps hehe"

[hushed spruce]

td games are about strategy but half the community is unable to use more than 5% of their brain 😭

[golden ruin]

yea

its also roblox, was doomed from the start :(

sometimes I go read the bloons TD discord

blows my mind how smart those guys are

[whole dawn]

Trading will fix this

[prisma yacht]

pretty sure each person could only have one haruka at max
unless vip gave shiny
not sure idr
and subaru is techincally also one per person

i dont think trading wil fix that

[spark pike]

there will be future buff units that give similar stats

the game is still relatively new

dont rush things let it cook

[tall elbow]

It been 5 months

It’s not new

[spark pike]

thats realistically new

for a game that gets new content every 2.5 weeks on average or so itll take time

everything needs a process of its own

they gotta tackle on how to keep the player base interested and make it balanced its kinda hard when so many characters are made in shows to be unbalanced

then to make supports on top of that itll take time

[prisma yacht]

yeah

[true swift]

But none of them r beating subaru,for the fact that he gives 20% dmg AND a 10% ability dmg boost

We js need a unit which replicates these stats then it's all set

[spark pike]

it doesnt have to beat it in the same way

after all its basically just a dps increase

others could give less dmg buff but give spa with it and stuff

they gotta make them different but at its core still the same

[cursive comet]

Adding a perma-pool buffer is a great idea, this game could use an “Erwin” if you know what I mean

Idk about making the past buffers obtainable tho- they’re exclusive/secret for a reason

[tall elbow]

a 100% buff unit will just remove haruka

[regal tulip]

grind and gems dont go together

[regal tulip]

thats why i told you to remove the first part of the suggestion

idk why you still have it

[regal tulip]

nun wrong with that

powercreep

[prisma yacht]

yeah

[prisma yacht]

exactly what i told him 😭

[true swift]

100% buff units seem diabolical lol

exp in a game like AA

i doubt they wud add it

[prisma yacht]

astd erwin had 200% buff

[cursive comet]

How about a 50% temporary buff that you would have to re-apply? (Ability based) affecting damage only and not range?

Should keep it balanced since this hypothetical unit would be permanently available

[vocal sentinel]

please no ability based buffs what is this aa 💀

[regal oasis]

Thats how erwin worked lol

[queen dragon]

i like boys

[hushed spruce]

yea lets not powercreep buffs
i like actually having team variety

[cursive comet]

We kind of already have that through sabaru 🤷‍♂️ (damage amp increases by 10%)

[vocal sentinel]

subaru buffs with or without ability

aa buffs only work with abilitys

[flint flare]

I’d either add Haruka to the banner or add a new buff unit to the game that’s obtainable through the banner

[regal oasis]

Seconds one yes, first one no

[vocal sentinel]

make something like alchemist from btd6

[flint flare]

There’s a reason AA devs put Ai into the banner

[regal tulip]

Ai was never limited was she?

[hushed spruce]

she was

bp unit

[regal tulip]

i see

[muted crane]

bocci the rock buff unit

from banner 🔥

[golden ruin]

Mainly because I've still yet to get a reason why it would be bad outside of people being but hurt

Regardless, all u yapin guys said some pretty cool stuff

I think, I skimmed

[golden ruin]

Not the aa erwin copy

Get outa here!

[cursive comet]

K

[cursive comet]

Nah I’d stay.

What ideas do you have for a perma-pool buffer?

[cursive comet]

Would go hard

[golden ruin]

hmmm

Hercule :D

[cursive comet]

That could work too

[golden ruin]

he could have an ability that has him hit an enemy for 1 dmg, and whoever he hits takes like double damage for 5 seconds

or some shit

that might be OP tho

[flint flare]

That would be really OP for bosses

[golden ruin]

yea thats what I was thinking

after saying it I was like "yea bosses, cooked"

just like cell!

thats how gohan won

hercule did the dmg at the start

trust

I was there, id know

[flint flare]

However having a five second window to deal double damage can be interesting

[golden ruin]

it woulndnt really be all that OP unless you timed it super well

would be funny tho, hercule buffer unit

give him income to ong

1 billion yen at the end of the game lmao

cause ya know, he gave goku a shit ton of cash at the start of super

[tall elbow]

Yhwach

Kisuke

All can do buffing skills

[regal tulip]

but thats a big thing wdym

[golden ruin]

I mean ig but like I'm thinking more about the future of the game and fairness

[prisma yacht]

but if there's going to be new buff units in the future that are always obtainable, why unecessarily hurt players who used up their time to get a limited unit when it was available

[safe basin]

cause other players need to get buffs too

[prisma yacht]

'but if there's going to be new buff units in the future that are always obtainable'

his second suggestion is spot on
then why is the first even needed

[safe basin]

idk

[prisma yacht]

i cant tell whether the devs had any intentions to put buff units in the future, but if we tell them that we do want it then maybe they would consider

but why make a limited unit available again

[safe basin]

ohhhh

ur saying why bring back old buffs

like haruka?

[prisma yacht]

yeah

[safe basin]

oh i misread mb

[prisma yacht]

oh okayokay

[safe basin]

i thought u were saying why add more buff units cause we already have 2 and it would hurt the people who farmed them

[prisma yacht]

oh hell na that's dumb

[golden ruin]

we dont know if there are going to be buff units in the future, and if they didnt want to risk "hurting" players who used up there time to get a limited unit, why would they make the unit such a powerful one?

[prisma yacht]

yeah yeah
what im saying is that
ur second suggestion makes it clear that we want new buff units in the future
supposing the devs had no intentions of doing that (unlikely), at least they would consider it now

which unit powerful btw

[safe basin]

subaru

[prisma yacht]

someone who's going for high/late game would have been playing for long enough
they would have had ample time to get these units if they wanted to

someone who's new to the game has nothing to do with getting buff units atm

and there will definitely be a time gap between when new players finally reach the level to start playing lb and stuff

so i feel like there's definitely a decent time gap in which they can introduce new buffs and whatnot

and also at some point
no matter how many buff units are there
will the team always be carrying every single one of them?
wont people starting dropping some that are too weak and start taking up the new buff units for better efficiency

like i get that ur always down 20% but the second there's units giving 30% 50% or maybe an erwin type of 100 or 200%, who's going to want to use subaru anymore

it starts wasting slots that could be used for more dps

also isnt subaru only a 10% buff unit

the other 10% comes from abilities which isnt really that consistent is it?
unless ig ur using gogeta, then u can keep spamming it

or maybe im misunderstanding what's written on the wiki

[hushed spruce]

he got buffed to be 20% after he uses return to zero

[prisma yacht]

ohhhh okayokay

[hushed spruce]

i changed it on wiki to be right

[prisma yacht]

tyyy!

[golden ruin]

this is still going on the "If" we get future buff units that arnt locked to LTM's and following the games track record as of now thats not going to be the case-

but by all means av devs shoot me in the knees and proove me wrong with a new buff unit this update :D

[prisma yacht]

same here, i couldnt get subaru cuz i had studies and exams
personally im not that much of a gamer and competitive isnt my cup of tea so maybe i just dont understand the value of the buff units currently in game

i just feel like it's not serious enough to remove their limited title and bring them back in game already

[prisma yacht]

yeah that's all im hoping for as well

in the long run if they dont add new buffs then ill agree it's a real problem

[prisma yacht]

i mean we only had haruka and subaru right? or are there other buffs im missing

[hushed spruce]

just them

but they required for almost every tournament
well mainly just subaru but still

[tall elbow]

Personal reasons that kept them unable to get Subaru for 2 months?

[prisma yacht]

yeah? what's wrong with that

[tall elbow]

it only takes 5h of your actual time to get him,
1h per day

[golden ruin]

some people are just spoon feed in life

[tall elbow]

you can also mango the gamemode itself if you werent available

[prisma yacht]

im not gonna spend time on a game when i have the biggest exams of my life incoming

[golden ruin]

wish I could say the same about myself

[tall elbow]

didn't know exams can last for 2 months,

[golden ruin]

this guys really sitting here trying to say playing av is worth risking your school life

like please stfu 💀 you cant be serious

[prisma yacht]

real
yeah alr makes sense

[prisma yacht]

ong

[prisma yacht]

maybe uve just never studied for exams

[tall elbow]

who said yall in school? it could be trade school by that logic

dumb logic

[prisma yacht]

but this ones meant to decide my freaking future so nty

[tall elbow]

I already graduated from high school, no need to worry about exams

[safe basin]

the suggestion ragebaiter sweeps in

[hushed spruce]

even if someone just took a break from the game for 2 months, its not really a healthy thing for the game to make it so they just cant compete in certain gamemodes unless they got a limited unit during a certain time

[prisma yacht]

yeah good for u, thanks for not caring the slightest bit for any other age group that might be playing the game

[golden ruin]

it dosnt matter what type of school someones in a game should never take focus over studying

[safe basin]

chill if u say an actual opinion they might demote u!

[prisma yacht]

ong

[golden ruin]

pray to god your not going for anything outside of fast foor or retail

[tall elbow]

its okay, they'll be able to get sabaru through trading then

[golden ruin]

1970 gonna be a doctor in the future and call out to play an av event

[hushed spruce]

i should start adding a disclaimer to all my messages ( i dont know how to do the subtext thing)

[golden ruin]

"Yea cant save that guys life, LTM active right now"

[prisma yacht]

exactly 🙏

[tall elbow]

I wouldn't even be here if i was an actual doctor...
Most doctor's schedules are no joke..
plus you'd get fired if you were on your phone

[golden ruin]

fucking peak

[prisma yacht]

lmfaoo

[oak plover]

the hell is happening

[golden ruin]

hey man shouldnt you be mass farming portals right now

[prisma yacht]

so you understand that personal reasons are a thing

good to know

[safe basin]

i just got in a hit and run! av event leaves in 10 minutes though i gotta go spend my presents first

[golden ruin]

I mean of course he does for the hypothetical its his reasons

but because its other people he dosnt give a shit

[golden ruin]

ong

[hushed spruce]

thats what the people with 1M wisps leftover should have done😭

[tall elbow]

well, technically you're allowed to play roblox if you got into an accident ..?
idk what ur trying to prove here

[safe basin]

i forgot to buy miku madness

i will forever regret it

[golden ruin]

this guy...

[hushed spruce]

insanely massive L
omg

[safe basin]

BRO

[prisma yacht]

yeah ts is just ragebait lmfaooo

[golden ruin]

ong

[tall elbow]

but am I wrong..?

[golden ruin]

lemme put that new discord feature to work

[prisma yacht]

funny guy ong

[tall elbow]

because i'm not

[safe basin]

im geniunely thinking of buying wisps with robux

[tall elbow]

you literally use your phone to call the police

[safe basin]

that banner is so peak

[safe basin]

ok hes ragebaiting

😭

[tall elbow]

in the meantime, you can do whatever it is you want to do on the phone while waiting for the cops to arrive

[golden ruin]

"sorry officer im in the middle of an AV inf leaderboard run, no I can not pull over"

bros the typa guy to have a laptop so he can shit and still game

Bro finishes wiping looking at a brown rag "yea thats good enough I gotta get back to av"

[warped willow]

Yoo

[golden ruin]

whats up man

[warped willow]

Nun much hbu?

[golden ruin]

just playing modded mc

[warped willow]

Which mods

[golden ruin]

its a "reincarnated as a slime" modpack or something

[warped willow]

Oh very nice

[golden ruin]

idk my uncle started a server so im just hanging out with him

[warped willow]

I got my base blown up on an smp yesterday

[golden ruin]

anyways, back to the topic of the thread ig, what you got on your mind

[warped willow]

Hm

[golden ruin]

cooked

[warped willow]

Yeah

Anyways

[oak plover]

you guys can chat in the dms you know?

[warped willow]

Ig bringing the buff unit back is a bit too much cuz of value

[oak plover]

this a suggestion

[warped willow]

Its just

Mb

Sorry

[oak plover]

nah its good

[golden ruin]

its literally my suggestion 💀

[warped willow]

I just don't want another alucard situation with subaru

[golden ruin]

ill yap here if I want

[oak plover]

yeah but typign a differnet topic

[warped willow]

Where you can't get number 1 without him

[oak plover]

than the suggestion

isnt a suggestion

who cares if you own it or not

[golden ruin]

ong bro, cope

[warped willow]

I mean if yall think different that's fine

[golden ruin]

what do you mean?

[warped willow]

But I'm still traumatized from alucard being the number 1 factor for like 10 tourneys in a row

When tourneys were first here

[golden ruin]

true

[warped willow]

Alucard was the deciding factor of whether or not you were number 1

For multiple tourneys in a roe

[golden ruin]

I never really thought about that before here recently

[warped willow]

Row

[golden ruin]

mainly because alu was still super fucking rare at the time

[warped willow]

If the same happens with subaru

[golden ruin]

I mean it probably will if a buffer dosnt come out this update

[warped willow]

Then I'm cooked deep fried whatever you name it

[golden ruin]

like you can kinda keep up with rin but for those longer runs your just gonna slowly fall behind

[warped willow]

Mhm

[golden ruin]

i mean id know me and a bud had like top 12 on an inf, overnight we went to like top 50

was insane

[warped willow]

I just don't want another alucard situation

That's all

[golden ruin]

I agree

thats kinda the whole point, I want to be able to take part in tournys, but unless we get a buffer THIS UPDATE I cant

and seeing as we already know 2 of the units its probably not gonna happen

[warped willow]

Because I remember people getting super angry over alucard being meta for like multiple tourneys

[golden ruin]

hell idek if bleach even has any "lore" characters that buff

[hushed spruce]

im still mad about that

[warped willow]

Yeah idk if bleach has any lol

[golden ruin]

like they have a certified healer baddie

[warped willow]

That's what I'm saying bro. Ig this thing happens again...

[tall elbow]

ever since we got ai tourneys

[hushed spruce]

the odds of them actually adding orihime this upd is pretty slim ngl
out of all characters she is not up there in the ones ppl want

[tall elbow]

alucard hasnt been required

[golden ruin]

I meannn

[warped willow]

Yeah he isn't rn but what about sobaru

[golden ruin]

true

[warped willow]

What does the future hold

[oak plover]

it will be still like that

[tall elbow]

probably out of meta next update

tybw has a lot of support characters

[warped willow]

Yeah but idk about buffers

[tall elbow]

rather than raw pure

[warped willow]

Anyways ima just wait for the update and see what happens

[hushed spruce]

theres a lot of characters they could make into buffers
really just depends on what they want to do

[warped willow]

If sobaru turns out like alucard then damn

If it doesn't cool

That's all

[golden ruin]

maybe like

[oak plover]

depends

[golden ruin]

im bad with names but ya know that store owner

trained ichigo