NERF LEGEND STAGE

[warm sierra]

BUMP

[vale pawn]

its pretty balanced

hard/easy at the same time

u just gotta use your brain

which sum ppl dont have

[dreamy rapids]

Skill issue

[inner portal]

this is lowkey a skill issue

[dreamy rapids]

Wdym lowkey? Its literally a skill issue

[warm sierra]

GILGAMESH HAS 1.5 MILLION HEALTH ON 15 WAVES THIS IS NOT NORMA;

[dreamy rapids]

Deff skill issue

Pls. Carried my friend that is literally no evo unit to get him a gilga, i didnt even have any monarch

[shadow wolf]

people wanted the game harder

so it is harder

its not impossible

[dreamy rapids]

I mean its legend stage

Why make legend stage easy

First to complain, might say its literally a skill issue

[simple dawn]

No

[warm sierra]

I can beat it but my friend is never getting gilgamesh bro

[vale pawn]

hes prob playing like an dumbass ngl

[dreamy rapids]

U n ur friend has skill issue

[vale pawn]

vegeta is literally meta for stages like that

since he is 4 placment

u can place 2 each side

while u farm

[warm sierra]

NO its impossible now I used to beat it with Vegeta but now its impossible

[vale pawn]

i still beat it with vegeta bro

[dreamy rapids]

Vegeta is not the only unit in game

[vale pawn]

i did this shit not too long ago for commands

[warm sierra]

then who else? he si the best for that

[dreamy rapids]

What are the point of these other units if u only use vegeta

[vale pawn]

that is true but he rlly good for 2 routes like that map

[dreamy rapids]

There is this called "using ur brain"

[warm sierra]

rem and ram?

[vale pawn]

toji also goes crazy as well

[vale pawn]

even her

she is the best boss killer

then whne gilgmash is rdy to remove your units just sell them and replace

[dreamy rapids]

Tried it, but unless no etheral on ur vogita, he kinda suck in golden castle now, high hp scaling use other units like higher scale

[vale pawn]

what is wrong with yall vegeta's lol

i literally have vigor 3

and still can beat it

[dreamy rapids]

It has no trait

[vale pawn]

normally ppl well roll a trait

so idk what ur tryna say but alr

[dreamy rapids]

I mean idk, never tried soloing legend stage with vogita anymore since i have other units. And i did tried vogita during helping my friend, he sucked enemy hp scale way too high for vogita damage since 2 of us are in the stage

I just spam gilga, so he can kill the boss while i clear waves, friendship is powerful but vogita is no more

[vale pawn]

when playing wiht another just upgrade him to the glick gun and that would help for a lil til u can start upgrading units in the middle

like toji for that map goes crazy

[dreamy rapids]

Ill say this again, vogita is not the only unit, he literally cant damage the whole golden castle alone

[vale pawn]

idk why ppl want stuff hard

and when they get it

they dont want it

like come on bruh

[dreamy rapids]

Now

[vale pawn]

no one is stating he is the only unit for the stage am saying for normal ppl getting into the game they prob have vegeta already

[dreamy rapids]

Then stop imposing about ur vogita fanatic, dafaq

[harsh merlin]

pretty sure u prob dont need a monarch to beat a leg stage (ion know havent played in dk 3 months) so would prob say invalid

[rose valley]

nah still valid

[vale pawn]

?????
cant u fucking read??

[dreamy rapids]

Spam gilga

[vale pawn]

am imposing that buz most ppl have vegeta

most ppl not gonna have gilgmash

[dreamy rapids]

Or cuchu, melts every shit

[harsh merlin]

so they is a leg stage u need a monarch to beat ? thats some crazy work

[rose valley]

no, u dont need monarch

[vale pawn]

u dont need one

[dreamy rapids]

In legend just ur brain, not one units to win

[warm sierra]

I literally have Ragna and Saber Alter and I find it hard to beat the legend stage on duo

I can do it

but its hard

[vale pawn]

isdeath toji rem and ram gojo choso would help

[rose valley]

that's how it's meant to be

[dreamy rapids]

Skill issue

[vale pawn]

ngl u might be just ass

[harsh merlin]

yup if it doesent need a monarch cant presume whats gonna be hard so imma jus actually play the game and find out

[vale pawn]

how tf u losing wiht ragna

[rose valley]

if u can do it then why are you asking for a nerf

[warm sierra]

I dont lose

[vale pawn]

the big ranga like what?

[warm sierra]

but its hard

[rose valley]

exactly, if you dont lose then why ask for a nerf

[warm sierra]

I just finished worldlines

[vale pawn]

early game is hard

[rose valley]

what's wrong with a stage being tough

[vale pawn]

didnt we want that too??

[dreamy rapids]

Him cant carry himself

[rose valley]

exactly, we wanted tougher stages

[warm sierra]

it just feels hard for the sake of being hard

like I love when soemthing is hard because of stratgeies and all

[vale pawn]

oh boi

[rose valley]

umm???

[vale pawn]

yea am gone cya

[warm sierra]

but here its just that the ennemies have more HP

[rose valley]

yeah u can use strategies dawg

[merry estuary]

its easy Just get a monarch

[rose valley]

suggest a different method to make a gamemode difficult

[simple dawn]

I just remembered he is the guy who made suggestion of secret to vanguard rairty

[warm sierra]

how? the stage has lit nothing special

[rose valley]

get better placement

[dreamy rapids]

Game easy = complain
Game hard = complain
Just quit imo

[rose valley]

choose upgrades at the right time

[warm sierra]

dont get that here please 😭

[rose valley]

use better units

[rose valley]

ong

[simple dawn]

Yes

[warm sierra]

I never complaint because the game was easy

[merry estuary]

bro think this game require strats
this aint leaderboard

[simple dawn]

U will get cooked

[rose valley]

not that intense

but u can always be a little bit methodical with your placements and units to get easier gameplay

[warm sierra]

strat makes TD games better wym 💀

[dreamy rapids]

We all agree this person has skill issue, right?

[warm sierra]

BRO I CAN BEAT IT

[simple dawn]

no

[merry estuary]

ehhh
the hardest stage rn can be beaten by rem and subaru

[rose valley]

then if it dont broke, dont fix it

[warm sierra]

ITS JUST THAT I feel like its too hard for the beginners

[rose valley]

exactly what im saying

i use only rem and i can solo leg 3

[dreamy rapids]

Legend stage are never meant to be easy for beginners

[merry estuary]

did u read my message...?
i never said it doesnt make it better i am saying this game doenst req strats unless its leaderboards

[dreamy rapids]

Begginer = legend stage easy clear ?

[rose valley]

so instead of using regnaw and saber, choose diff units that are suited for this

[warm sierra]

I understand your point, but they could have made it like that since the release it would have made more sense

[rose valley]

aint no beginner done with all story and legends

[warm sierra]

no Salter totally works for every single stage and Ragna eats the boss

[dreamy rapids]

The game is about progress not overshootinh all the way through

[warm sierra]

when I was a beginner those were soloable with luffy rare

[rose valley]

then why do you say it's difficult dawgg

[rose valley]

yeah that wasnt good
it's good to see the stages getting tougher now

[dreamy rapids]

Its pointless to put points when u cant comprehend the game logic and mechanics when u think every stage should be cleared easily

[warm sierra]

because im an end game player and I feel like its REALLY hard for beginners

[simple dawn]

The only legend stage hard is underground church , for that reason it had pity on key so that new player can co-up

[merry estuary]

even lancer can solo
unless gilga , you will need monarch or etherial ngl

[warm sierra]

like maybe reduce the multiplayer multiplier by a bit

[rose valley]

that's cuz it's not meant for beginners

[warm sierra]

Igris stage is also really hard now that they buffed it

[dreamy rapids]

We are not close to end game, wdym by beginners, lvl 10 fuckers doing legend stages da hell

[simple dawn]

Nah other easy af

And no one do legend stage for igris when they got boss rush

[warm sierra]

the statues each have 300K HP thats insane

[simple dawn]

Vageta solo with 2 upgrades

[dreamy rapids]

Saint nooby, the begginer defender. Pray for us

[simple dawn]

And they dont do the legend stage upgrade material anymore and its perfect cause it was a tedious work

I hated it with my all might

[dreamy rapids]

Legend stage ≠ for beginners
Legend stage = for progressive players

Game = progress, not begginer friendly for every content

Simple as that

[simple dawn]

Just make a suggestion to remove upgrade item from legend stages

[warm sierra]

how do the beginners progress if they cant get units like Gilgamesh or Toji then

[simple dawn]

Cause that’s painfull

[rose valley]

which what ?

[dreamy rapids]

Golden castle doesnt event have upgrade item, and u cant get it in inf

[rose valley]

you use the banner

[simple dawn]

naruto ramen and stuff

[rose valley]

and THEN you get gilgamesh

[warm sierra]

like bro Worldlines difficulty is perfect in my opinion

[rose valley]

oh nah that makes sense at least

[merry estuary]

they can get rem and lancer

[rose valley]

even saber

[simple dawn]

25f chakra for The f evo and ascension

[dreamy rapids]

Gilga and toji arent for begginers, thats why banner exist wadaf, thats why gems exist r u braindead?

[merry estuary]

worldlines are easy and need a buff ngl

[simple dawn]

Whole 25 game mode

[rose valley]

if u want a better unit, u gotta work for it

[merry estuary]

i clear them without nay trouble

[warm sierra]

HOW ARE THEY EASY?

[simple dawn]

And the rate f shif

[warm sierra]

wordlines are only easy with monarchs

[simple dawn]

Fate was done pretty well

[merry estuary]

i dont got monarch..?

[simple dawn]

Wdhm work hard

U get currency from infi

[merry estuary]

i ligit just use etherial rem , and deadeye gilga and solar lancer

they solo all the stages

[simple dawn]

And upgrade item easy to make

[dreamy rapids]

Did u ever fucking consider the fact that 50k gold on gilga key is beginner friendly? Or r u just r worded

[warm sierra]

50k gold is the easiest sh to get

[rose valley]

sure, but nothing wrong with a legend stage having evo materials
it's not like those legend stages are even tough in the first place

[warm sierra]

10 boss rush coings give 50k

[dreamy rapids]

For beginners?????

[rose valley]

ah yes

beginner friendly

i think ur losing track now

[warm sierra]

Berserker servants literally solo the whole thing

[rose valley]

ur points are contradicting

[merry estuary]

killing gilga solo as a beginners is near impossible
ngl

[rose valley]

no they dont

broski

[inner portal]

to do the boss rush u do need to finish story mode

[rose valley]

how do you expect

a beginner to be

unable to do

leg stage 3

[dreamy rapids]

Babe, boss rush arent for beginners, they need to be level 15/20 to unlock those they arent beginners no more those are mid players

[merry estuary]

no

[rose valley]

UNABLE to do leg stage 3

and do BOSS RUSH

SALTER BOSS RUSH

[inner portal]

yes u do

the salter one

[merry estuary]

???

[inner portal]

u need to finish story

[simple dawn]

25 time per unit 4 min for 1 stage 25 x4 100min 9 stages 900 min 900/60 15 hr

[dreamy rapids]

Very

[merry estuary]

its a lvl req isnt it?

[inner portal]

no

[merry estuary]

huh wild

[warm sierra]

yeah but what I dont understand is how Gogeta is WAY easier to get for beginners than Gilgamesh

[dreamy rapids]

Nooby has skill issue both his skill and brain

[inner portal]

my friend finished story at lv 7 and he went boss rush with us

[merry estuary]

its a lvl req...

[dreamy rapids]

Lvl 1 player doing boss rush

[merry estuary]

just like how occult raid was lvl 15

[warm sierra]

no its not

[merry estuary]

???

[warm sierra]

you jsut need to finish story

[inner portal]

he needed to finish story he told us

bro was lv7

what lv requirement is that

[merry estuary]

crazy

[rose valley]

u ned 6 chakra for naruto dawg
and u need 12 for obito and sasuke

[warm sierra]

my friedn is level 13 and he literally borrows my account to carry him in boss rush

[simple dawn]

Its dog and i am including ascension too

[inner portal]

if anything they need to make boss rush harder this one was pretty chill

[warm sierra]

real

[merry estuary]

this is why no one evo old characters
newer characters have better evo progression

[dreamy rapids]

This is the most pointless argument and suggestion someone made

[inner portal]

as long as u kill the awe

[warm sierra]

Boss rush is EASY

[simple dawn]

Yes thats what i said

[merry estuary]

everything in the game is easy

[dreamy rapids]

Then u cried in legend stage

[merry estuary]

they should make a gamemode where u cant solo fr

[warm sierra]

Legend stage is ABSURD

[rose valley]

ascension is NOT necessity
and how does naruto being dog add to your point
your point was how much time it takes
im telling u 25x attempts is wrong

[dreamy rapids]

SKILL ISSUE

[inner portal]

ascensions are for tournaments bro

[merry estuary]

skill issue..

[inner portal]

it is NOT needed

[rose valley]

exactly

[simple dawn]

Ascensions are needed for lbs runs and that extra 10% damage do alot of work on monarchs

[warm sierra]

you are gonna tell me that its normal that a 15 wave boss has more HP than a 30 wave one?

[simple dawn]

And i meant its not dawg its dog

[dreamy rapids]

[rose valley]

annndd now we're off track
this convo was about beginners
no beginer is gonna go for lbs
and someone who's going for lbs
is no beginner anymore
and
has definitely put in more than enough hours into the game already

[dreamy rapids]

Im just here having the laugh of my life for nooby

[rose valley]

ong

[inner portal]

theres tons of videos that show people doin current legends with 1 mythic tho...

idk why this is even a post

[simple dawn]

when i said this is needed for beginners i said for everyone

[dreamy rapids]

Skill issue bro, he has skill issue

[merry estuary]

me when my 4 max upgraded rem kills in less than 10 seconds

tragic

[rose valley]

this suggestion
was about beginner stuff
hence
i thoguht you were talking about beginners
if u didnt mean that, then mb, but pls mention

[inner portal]

for someone with captain role you would think hes lifeless enough to not need to complain about this ngl

[dreamy rapids]

Funnypart of the stage the boss walk slow and just deal damage to them while walking down the stairs

1.5m is a specs hp

[inner portal]

getting rem is easy for beginners

so it would kinda count

[merry estuary]

how tf is he caption role and struggling with A LEGEND STAGE

[simple dawn]

Yes its for everyone cause previous evo progression and ascension was so bad and evo progression and ascension is pretty good now , u not locked around different stage u got options

[merry estuary]

wait till bro learns that some units can stun enemies and buff units

[dreamy rapids]

Ikr, i never believed in skill issue, but after reading this, i have encountered my first skill issue player

[inner portal]

delete this post big man this is embarrassing

[dreamy rapids]

He place all his units in one spot for gilga just to delete all of thme

[rose valley]

I wldnt say it was bad before
But its copl now ye

[simple dawn]

Compare to now it was bad

[merry estuary]

and proceeds to not delete it before gilga deletes his units

[simple dawn]

Its not easy but its not stuck around stages now

U got freedom in it

Ig i will make the suggestion if the bleach has the legend stage evo

[tight thunder]

And he uses a nuke while gilga its starting to use EA.

[dreamy rapids]

I thank the lord i use my brain to clear stages, utilizing supports and ranges of my units. And learning mistake when i lose, rather than just sent a complaint already after doing 1 try of the legend stage

[warm sierra]

they should make ascensions buff the passives

like Vegeta instead of getting 20% less SPA alone make him get 35% less in max ascension

[tight thunder]

Imagine 150% buff first saber hit.

[dreamy rapids]

Make another suggestion

[tight thunder]

[warm sierra]

its not that bad its just for 1 hit

tbh it would be okay

[dreamy rapids]

Ill just put an x on tthem

[rose valley]

😭

[warm sierra]

I have other suggestions you will prob not find

[inner portal]

we dont want to find them dw

[dreamy rapids]

Then it was irrelevant to begin with

[rose valley]

Dont challenge an unrmployed av player

[dreamy rapids]

[warm sierra]

one of them got 70 stars

[dreamy rapids]

The question in hand, was it approved?

[warm sierra]

idk

[dreamy rapids]

Stars ≠ aprroved

[inner portal]

is this man showing off 70 stars in a suggestion post

[warm sierra]

I only found 1 flaw in my suggestion after

[dreamy rapids]

This is his penalty post

[warm sierra]

😭

thats crazy

[merry estuary]

wait your telling me u have to use your brain and figure out where u went wrong when you lose ??
crazy idea bro ngl

[rose valley]

Fr

[warm sierra]

no I created a strategy its just that in my brain legend stages were meant for beginners in the first place

thats just what was on my head

but if its not then there is no problem

[merry estuary]

i thought legend stages were meant to evo characters

or am i tripping

[rose valley]

Then change that notion
Its not

[dreamy rapids]

They are meant for "begginer friendly" -nooby

[rose valley]

Mhm , thats what were tryna tell ya

[inner portal]

legend stages are semi end game the start is story mode and then legend and then world lines im pretty sure

theres events in the mist of it to make most things pretty easy

just getting 1 event unit can carry most things

[merry estuary]

or just get a monarch
real strat

[inner portal]

lol

[dreamy rapids]

Or just delete the game if u think legend stage is hard

[inner portal]

if anything they needa make the game harder

[warm sierra]

old balancers did really kill their game

who got the idea of the SBR raid

[merry estuary]

fr increase difficulty but more rewards

[inner portal]

yes now thats what i can get behind sbr is bad

[merry estuary]

me when i solo sbr with rem and emelia

[warm sierra]

cap

its impossible with Rem

Emilia yeah

Emilia is possible

[merry estuary]

i said and

and..

[warm sierra]

not rem

[inner portal]

read the whole message man

[warm sierra]

but Emilia yeah

[merry estuary]

???

[warm sierra]

Rem is a wasted slot

[merry estuary]

not really

[inner portal]

it lowers rem dmg by 100% so she still does 30% of her dmg

[warm sierra]

in SBR yeah

[inner portal]

shes not doing 0%

she is viable

bruh

[warm sierra]

yea but its like bringing an unevo nature or water unit

[merry estuary]

only using her for the full aoe then max her out when boss comes

[warm sierra]

for the boss

I understand

[inner portal]

well for the mobs emilia solos.

she does decent dmg

[warm sierra]

but is Ragna meant to be a boss killer?

because this is the only use I can find for him

[inner portal]

not everyone has ragna

ive done nearly 500 portals and only have 3

[warm sierra]

I got him in one of my first portal I think

[merry estuary]

ragna and gogeta only be using in leaderboard and infs ngl

[rose valley]

Yes

[inner portal]

no ragna is good for progressive

hes cheap

and good dps

[warm sierra]

Ragna destroys the boss but for the mobs you cant clear with only him

the Ragna AOE is garbage

[inner portal]

well hes meant to be used with buffers

its a given

[warm sierra]

if he stick with the placement AOE he would be a good overall unit

[inner portal]

this is now off topic

[warm sierra]

real

imma delete this post

[inner portal]

thank god

[warm sierra]

here deleted it