Comprehensive Worldlines Issues

[loud mountain]

• Windstorm weather continuously raises the speed of enemies when restarting the level.
• SBR consistently spawns you on the act 1-3 side even when facing Valentine who is a Act 4 boss,
  (Therefore losing out on 2 steel ball spawns)
• Raid maps have 20 waves instead of 15 in worldlines,
  (although it isn't stated this cannot happen, it seems weird that they're the only outliers)
• Due to the aforementioned increased number of waves, the scaling on these raid maps gets ridiculous at absurdly low floors, just to dramatically fall off again in the next room
  (Worldlines is advertised as verbatim a "Battle through infinite rooms" game mode, yet there seems to be an issue where developers don't want it to be infinite..?)
• Last season, 19 Players total passed floor 60, which was an SBR map.
  (12 or so of the 19 players took advantage of a bug that allowed weathers to stack making the stage infinitely easier, however this was patched making the stage impossible again until the release of Gogeta.)

Why make an infinite game mode then refuse to let 99.99% of the player base get even 10 levels past the supposed "apex" which is floor 50, last season the highest non bugged player on the leaderboard was stuck on floor 68 😭 , what is so infinite about this game mode. Don't create a competitive leaderboard to then appeal to the non-competitive players.

my suggestions are

1. remove the raid maps from the possible floor pool in general

2. keep their increased scaling, but make them 15 waves just like the other stages, to keep this sort of "boss room" that pyseph wants it to be

3. rescript these maps entirely to actually check if you're in a raid before setting it to 15 waves and default scaling (portals, worldlines) or 20 waves and increased scaling (an actual raid)

4. Remove infinite convergence in general. If you think that an infinite game mode shouldn't have an infinite exponential increase and instead should just be sudden insane increases in difficulty, then you clearly shouldn't be creating a game mode of the sorts. Not to mention that sudden difficult stages lead to the leaderboards being pure RNG in terms of placement order because hundreds of people will be stuck on the same floor after breezing through the previous 10.

5. Don't half ass a competitive game mode and pass off bugs as intended features then deny plausibility because you yourself don't find your own game fun.

[crystal nest]

:v last part was unnecessary

i talked with our balancing on this again, turns out there was a miscommunication

[loud mountain]

apologies

[crystal nest]

they said that they wanted to remove sbr/raid maps from worldlines this whole while, but if really necessary it could be kept as a hard-blocker to prevent ppl from going to floor 500+ and whatnot

which i interpreted it as "we should keep sbr maps because they act as hard-blockers/ "boss rooms" (as you mentioned)"

realizing this now though ill remove raid maps from the pool & reset worldlines for this season

& look into the windstorm issue

[loud mountain]

Thank you 🙏 and i'm sorry for my negative comments.

[crystal nest]

no worries, i understand ur just passionate abt the game

[crystal nest]

@loud mountain i cant seem to get the windstorm issue to occur

[loud mountain]

I'll recreate it

I can't recreate it on floor 60 with windstorm, but it was happening on floor 55 on the SBR map with the Mike boss, if it's possible to recreate those conditions.

I had to rejoin to get them back to normal speed

[crystal nest]

maybe its some wack stage mechanic interaction with the sbr map

will see if its still there after fixes + reset

[vestal locust]

No.

They shouldn’t remove raid
Maps

[vestal locust]

gogeta still eat ur 1,2k yen in new rework sand village map

[loud mountain]

I like the idea of the array of maps, but they're too problematic at the moment.

[vestal locust]

Curious, but have you ever attempted to do these so called rooms or you’re just spectating it based off the players who were stuck at this room?

Room 68 was possible under certain units

[loud mountain]

may have been an interaction with repulse, rather than windstorm

[vestal locust]

Can’t say it’s impossible when it never was…

[loud mountain]

I myself have reached floor 60 both previously and currently

[carmine moth]

if worldlines reset so will rewards?

[bronze mortar]

finally no more spider map (I dont have good fire monarch)

[loud mountain]

and which units would those be

[vestal locust]

Gilgamesh

Assuming you’re talking about last season

He was one of the reqs

[crystal nest]

no? this season hasnt ended

[obtuse coral]

Pyseph, will the worldline s1 be claimable this season???

[loud mountain]

yeah you're actually right, the highest non-bugged floor was 74 not 68, I had it confused

[crystal nest]

yes, were aware of the issue

[vestal locust]

So you really want this to be like AA’s infinity castle system?
Leaderboard in the upper 200s?

[lyric pulsar]

Yo why yall didn't reset raid shop

[vestal locust]

What is 25 rr gonna do?

[loud mountain]

the scaling in av is already significantly higher exponentially than aa's

[obtuse coral]

Why would they?

[lyric pulsar]

They are 75

[crystal nest]

dont misuse channels.

[lyric pulsar]

Rr

[loud mountain]

it's just the fact that the sudden jolt of difficulty so soon was weird*

so I really doubt even without the raid maps that anyone will make it significantly past floor 110+

[vestal locust]

Hm

It’s possible

[loud mountain]

not to mention that paragon already had players doing hundreds of rooms for leaderboard

[vestal locust]

You could always stall
And most maps wouldn’t require you to rely on bleed units with rupture being a thing

99% of the maps are huge asf too

Giving you enough time for ur unit to hit

[loud mountain]

well with the raid maps removed there'll be 5 or so maps

[vestal locust]

And then you have Gogeta who’s even more insane for worldline with sokoro

[loud mountain]

7 I think*

[loud mountain]

There will come a stage where blast is nerfed

and gogeta won't get you through it

[vestal locust]

Who is worth spinning on this update?

You think Alter will ever be used for worldlines?

[loud mountain]

well they didn't add anyone on the banner aside from illya

[loud mountain]

with monarch and sakura with monarch aswell

perhaps

[bronze mortar]

sorry for the ping but can u fix my shiny seven pls I still didn't got mine coz I got 2 normal seven instead of 1 shiny and 1 normal

[loud mountain]

perhaps you were on replaced on the leaderboard

and simply got a claim error

[vestal locust]

Ur not getting it buddy

Way too late

And he got more
Important stuff to deal with 😭

[loud mountain]

pyseph you can close this thread if you'd like

[vestal locust]

Why close it?

[bronze mortar]

it was a bug before other players got their shiny not me tho

[loud mountain]

A solution has been reached

[bronze mortar]

I don't know how to contact pyseph

[loud mountain]

and people are coming just to ping pyseph

which includes both of you

[bronze mortar]

I created a thread bout my issue it's been up for 2 weeks now

[loud mountain]

what leaderboard(s) are you on

[bronze mortar]

so there's no other way is it

[bronze mortar]

church paragon

other 2 got wiped but ion care about those anymore

I just want my 1 shiny seven

[loud mountain]

any other leaderboard

[bronze mortar]

no just those

[loud mountain]

what floor did you reach on church paragon

[bronze mortar]

im top 3 to be exact

170 smthng i forgot